Isn't steam eruption just objectively better scald, making it the best water move?
@MoxieBoostedАй бұрын
Shucks
@Utopia7281Ай бұрын
@@MoxieBoosted "I love arguing with people" -Instantly gives up
@AngelofoАй бұрын
It can miss and has less pp so it rlly could be debated
@EyeWasBoredАй бұрын
@@Angelofo Just beacause it's theoretically debatable doesn't mean its any less stupid
@mattyorshinАй бұрын
The problem with steam eruption is that only one Mon can use it. So steam is better as it's more viable
@zachpro5475Ай бұрын
Now do the worst move of every type
@orkenusrealXDАй бұрын
most likely used in LC (barely even)
@rike971Ай бұрын
Even Splash, which is the worst move ever created had its use in VGC.
@mattyorshinАй бұрын
I remember in gen one when splash could do damage lol
@insomniacnerd5592Ай бұрын
Synchronoise.
@guimon78Ай бұрын
@@insomniacnerd5592the real answer
@patrokaАй бұрын
Detect, Spiky Shield, etc not even getting a mention despite Protect stealing Normal’s slot:
@ndmt1225Ай бұрын
Burning bulwark, king’s shield too
@JAYLID-z8kАй бұрын
bulwark and king shied are ehhh since they can’t block status, but detect should have took fighting imo, and debatably spiky should have took grass…and silk trap should have took bug.
@YaBoiBigTАй бұрын
Nope the best one not mentioned is tailwind
@FlygonkingVGCАй бұрын
@@ndmt1225Baneful bunker
@KanderUdonАй бұрын
@@JAYLID-z8ksilk trap also doesn’t block status
@Metazoa54321Ай бұрын
i understand the reasoning behind Pollen Puff, but i'm really shocked to see no mentioning of U-turn for Bug
@ndmt1225Ай бұрын
Singles player here, so I may be wrong, but I’m pretty sure U-Turn isn’t really used in VGC
@FlygonkingVGCАй бұрын
Or quiver dance, or rage powder, or silk trap.
@CJdoesntlikehandlesАй бұрын
@@ndmt1225 it does, usually for intimidate
@benji5320Ай бұрын
@@CJdoesntlikehandlesparting shot incineroar moment
@qainan8665Ай бұрын
@@benji5320u-turn lando
@peterjoel34529 күн бұрын
One move that everyone seems to forget about that I think deserves mention - Double Iron Bash. An 120 BP perfectly accurate multi-hit move with a 55% chance to flinch is crazy.
@lucasalarcon323027 күн бұрын
It should have been double iron bash it out damages gigaton hammer in the long run and can flinch
@thejuiceking221915 күн бұрын
give it to jirachi
@NethauraАй бұрын
If a dragon type other than dragapult wants to run dragon darts, theyre gonna have to grab some dreepy to chuck at the opponent lol
@donnovanash2334Ай бұрын
So wouldn't it make sense for drifbloon to learn it? I mean it's stolen plenty of children, so why not?
@Gamertag1001Ай бұрын
@donnovanash2334 But… You didn’t… *sighs* you’re right
@jamaldavis2480Ай бұрын
Nono the Dragonite throws Dratini.
@MetroidsEATYouАй бұрын
Sounds like a Dragapault + ??? crossover if you ask me! "I can I borrow this for a moment?" **grabs Dreepy with a squeaky sound effect** But what if a Pokemon with spiky bits could use the-- Nope. Never mind. Garchomp is good enough as is.
@gregvs.theworld451Ай бұрын
@@donnovanash2334 Cracking up at the mental image of an animation where Drifloon uses dragon darts, but the animation shows them chucking a human pre-schooler trainer model at the enemy Pokémon in a similar way to how cramorant can sometimes spit Pikachu at opponents.
@zavadil_racing7731Ай бұрын
Hydrosteam I think competes with scald as well. A base 80 move thats boosted by both sun and rain is pretty gamebreaking when it comes to weather wars I think.
@jjtheentonАй бұрын
The best move in the game is obviously Silk Trap because it belongs to Spidops, baby.
@FlygonkingVGCАй бұрын
Protect that drops speed this would be good on araquinid
@JediSteve-J3-29 күн бұрын
Spidops let's GO
@smrtaliaАй бұрын
dragon ascent is pretty insane but no tailwind mention is surprising
@jackk.4670Ай бұрын
16:30 Here you go
@Y0G0FUАй бұрын
Tailwind is not a move you want on every single flyting type. Dragons Ascent however is a move you definetly would use on EVERY Flying type that has an acceptable attack stat :P But its in my opinion the second best flying type move with little to no competition.
@wyatt4227Ай бұрын
Beak blast aswell
@GoodraGamer47Ай бұрын
And no floaty fall
@user-bb3hv4ei9z29 күн бұрын
i mean by that logic trick room shouldn’t have gotten physic
@leanderstahulak4887Ай бұрын
Feel like tail glow should be honorable mention for bug types
@jxthedrawer27 күн бұрын
sticky web and quiver dance too
@castform7Ай бұрын
I feel like the decision at the Game Freak office was "give Gigaton Hammer 160 BP and no recharge turn" or "give Tinkaton a good attack stat" and I'm glad they chose the funnier option.
@ZwijgerАй бұрын
Yea so glad they did the same with Ursaluna: "Hey we want to make a version with a Hyper Beam on roids". "Okay, but be sure to give it low attack." "Yeah we did dw."
@kirb1414Ай бұрын
I would definitely argue No Retreat being the best fighting move. Pardon my singles brain, but look at the sheer volume of pokemon in balanced hackmons that opt to run that move-when you have access to literally everything. A practically free omni-boost (whose side effect can also be side stepped by shed shell or being a ghost type) only held back by being on a coughing baby of a pokemon
@kirb1414Ай бұрын
i would also give honorable mentions to triple arrows which would be stupid and dumb and stupid on a fast pokemon, victory dance for. being victory dance, or detect
@Taxibird29 күн бұрын
Nah bro it’s collisions course, 100 bp multiples damage on super effective targets, which for fighting is like everything
@sure-peaks344218 күн бұрын
You mean coughing babies of a pokemon
@Atherach15 күн бұрын
@@Taxibirdbro fighting is resisted by 5 types with one imune, like yes it is super effective on 5 types but still. If you want one that would be busted it would be a rock or ground type equivalent
@monterraythehomelessАй бұрын
Trick room is the coldest take in this video after Protect. Saw it coming from a mile away
@fe_three_rossesАй бұрын
@Mobtrapper-hq8isSpiky Shield is a Grass move which is already taken up by Spore
@monterraythehomelessАй бұрын
@ spiky shield is normal type? Didn’t realize, thanks for clarifying
@cassandramaccarthy3337Ай бұрын
I respect the choice of Pollen Puff but I also feel like U-turn has a pretty good argument
@Y0G0FUАй бұрын
Honorable Mention for the best Ice Type move goes to Freeze Dry. Being able to turn the Ice Resistance of Water Types into a Weakness is incredible especially given how gosh darn Bulky many of the most played Watertypes can be. Also opens up a Slot for better coverage IF your Pokemon otherwise would have to use a for example Grass or Electric Type move to deal with Waters.
@melvondrewhite267427 күн бұрын
No . But You’re Point Is Valid As Freeze-Dry Would Be Only If It Wasn’t 70 Base Power . 😂
@obviouslyanonymous25 күн бұрын
70BP moves can be viable. Give that thing an expert belt and cook everything Well, refrigerate everything
@thejuiceking221915 күн бұрын
fun fact: jynx with dry skin is the only pokemon that resists both water and freeze dry
@Atherach15 күн бұрын
@@thejuiceking2219 you forgot Walrain (or any ice water) with thick fat
@orshteinbok7762Ай бұрын
I think Oblivion Wing absolutely takes the flying slot, if every flying type could have oblivion wing, Lugia would be viable. Healing 75% of the damage dealt is absurd for an 80 BP move. Also for dark Wicked Blow is great but Id argue Knock off has a case to be made, but even then both are no taunt. Taunt shuts down so much that I feel its an easy number one. Last thing Ill mention is water, fishious rend is definitely the best. the argument of being able to click scald and burn things freely doesn't compare to just KOing whatever is in front of you if you move first. That's all Id change personally, great vid and cool list
@jordanshore83824 күн бұрын
I agree with all 3 of these statements. Especially knock off, which imo is probably the best move in the game. Cause while protect and Spore are better, they cannot actually kill the opponent. Knock off does big damage while having one of the greatest utility effects in the game. Until paradox pokemon, switching into knock off felt so bad, regardless of the resist.
@jasonbarry3301Ай бұрын
2:38 it’s so adorable that he still thinks the official format isn’t random battles
@joaonogueira3952Ай бұрын
We missed some strong candidates, pivoting moves like volt switch and u-turn, and detect as it is basically protect.
@cheeken1260Ай бұрын
1:46 thats why I love you man
@epicponedge1177Ай бұрын
Man, that Magikarp's nickname at 0:18 made me do a double take.
@quiverdancervolcaАй бұрын
We should make a format called “Moveset Inversion” that gives stronger mons weak moves and weaker mons shit like v create and gigaton hammer. Finally, Weedle and Mega Rayquaza can be on the same tier
@erich_ikaАй бұрын
I'm sorry but there's no way Worse-Smeargle-Weedle is anywhere near as strong as Choice Band Poison Sting Mega Rayquaza
@josephmay852Ай бұрын
Let him cook!
@typemasters2871Ай бұрын
Stadium Rental format Because in Pokemon Stadium, strong rental pokemon have weak moves and weak rental Pokemon has strong moves
@j0gurt573Ай бұрын
Mighty Cleave could contend for rock, slightly weaker than edge in exchange for perfect accuracy and the ability to ignore protect
@melvondrewhite267427 күн бұрын
Rock Ivy Cudgel Is Better . 😂
@tomwolfe778224 күн бұрын
@melvondrewhite2674 You'd personally rather have 5 more BP and the increased crit chance than to guarantee going through Protect?
@JackLeighton-uh6sl19 күн бұрын
@@melvondrewhite2674 ..which cannot realistically be on the list because it requires the user to hold the cornerstone mask
@melvondrewhite267419 күн бұрын
@@JackLeighton-uh6sl It Can Be On The List , Rock Ivy Cudgel Is Better .
@The_PikaboiАй бұрын
Are we sure Wicked Blow is better than Taunt? I love shutting down nonsense with Taunt
@hardikmittal297229 күн бұрын
And knock no mention
@melvondrewhite267427 күн бұрын
It Is , Wicked Blow Is Goated !
@jimbob74Ай бұрын
Really think the best dark move would be knock off but wicked blow is really strong as well.
@B0nsai_444Ай бұрын
If this was for singles yea knock would probably be a top 5 move of any type
@skeetermania3202Ай бұрын
@@B0nsai_444Why singles and not doubles?
@if7723Ай бұрын
@skeetermania3202 usually a lot more switching in singles so knock off is giving you better long term effects whereas in doubles the games are generally shorter and making the move immune to intimidate is insanely good for a physical move.
@masterdex7804Ай бұрын
If it was pre gen 7, I’m pretty sure the answer would be dark void
@melvondrewhite267427 күн бұрын
Nah , Wicked Blow Is One-Shotting Anything Weak To It & Two-Shotting Anything Neutral .
@SatanicWren29 күн бұрын
Kinda surprised Double Iron Bash wasnt at least mentioned. Effectively 120 BP, can ohko through Sash, 51% Flinch Rate. Slightly weaker that Gigaton Hammer but it can be used every turn and has multiple bonus effects. Its like Steel-type close combat but instead of 2 stat drops you can two bonus effects.
@JackLeighton-uh6sl19 күн бұрын
probably only using gen 9 moves
@riirah101029 күн бұрын
4:11 "Iron Fumble" followed by Tetsutetsu the Bronzong KILLED ME
@maestrotritone5975Ай бұрын
Protect is also the single reason why VGC is able to work as it does, without it the game would just be a hyper aggressive speedrun with little to no strategy or skill expression.
@ciaranpatrick6859Ай бұрын
Something worth noting about sacred sword is that it also ignores defense drops. Painfully consistent
@memesareus5654Ай бұрын
Gotta say clangorous soul on most dragon types would be a war crime cough cough Koridon
@melvondrewhite267427 күн бұрын
He Would Never Get That . 😂
@badorni69Ай бұрын
For pollen puff, don't forget, literally a bunch of Calyrex Shadow like to run it to hit dark types and the normal/psychic squad you can't hit with Astral barrage and the damage it does is surprising alongside obviously healing sometimes
@creeperkeltenАй бұрын
Flip Turn, U-Turn, Volt Switch, Knock Off, Spikey Shield and Detect are all honerable mentions
@hamzanasir9621Ай бұрын
Id like to suggest a video idea, how would give the rest of the Pokémon types a secondary trait, some types have additional traits associated to them other then just the standard type chart but if you were to give every type an additional bonus what would it be, alternatively rank all the current benifits from most useful to least. the ones we already have are: Grass: immune to powder moves Fire: immune to burn Electric: immune to paralysis Poison: immune to poison and clears toxic spikes if grounded Ice: immune to freeze and 50% def buff in snow Rock: 50% spdef buff in sand Dark: immune to moves given priority through prankster Ghost: cant be trapped by arena trap or shadow tag
@ParkyMarzАй бұрын
I'd like it if they gave one to Psychic. Those that make more sense tho I think are immunity to confusion (too weak) or immunity to flinching (too busted).
@omegaphasmeeeАй бұрын
@@ParkyMarz i feel like immunity to flinch should go to fighting type since they are valiant pokemon (we are not gonna talk about how busted it would be lmao)
@kailesperance192228 күн бұрын
Ground and Steel are also immune to sandstorm damage, and Steel types can’t be poisoned. Also, ghost types are immune to ALL forms of trapping, not just trapping abilities.
@Casual_MulticlasserАй бұрын
Nah, best Normal move is Sketch
@le_m4cho965Ай бұрын
it would be useless, since in the context of this video every pokemon already learns every move
@murilotheodoro5025Ай бұрын
Nobody is clicking sketch at a vgc match ever
@natecgames461229 күн бұрын
Sketch Protect
@Casual_Multiclasser29 күн бұрын
@natecgames4612 Wait, hold up, your cooking
@Casual_Multiclasser29 күн бұрын
@le_m4cho965 Yeah, I read the title and figured it would have been what would every Pokémon would want to learn.
@B0nsai_444Ай бұрын
Beat move of every type for smogon singles (no sig moves) Normal: Rapid spin / boomburst /e speed Fighting: close combat Flying: brave bird Poison: toxic spike ? Ground: earthquake / spike Rock: Stealth rock Bug: u turn / web / quiver dance Ghost: shadow ball Steel: idk Fire: Sacred fire Water: Scald Grass: spore Electric: volt switch Psychic: trick room? Ice: freeze dry Dark: knock off Fairy: Moonblast Dragon: dragon dance
@silver_was_found29 күн бұрын
Poison should be toxic imo, steel could be shift gear or bullet punch
@kailesperance192228 күн бұрын
Steel could be Iron Head due to 30% flinch rate.
@B0nsai_44427 күн бұрын
@@kailesperance1922 yea seems fair
@JohnWhitneyTheFourthАй бұрын
I find it reeeeally hard to believe that v create isn't even worth a mention for fire. With 80 base power more trading for the burn chance and even with the drop to defenses. In a longer engagement being able to click sacred wins out but the ability to juke something out of existence in one turn is worth a lot.
@skeetermania3202Ай бұрын
In VGC, having to switch is a much bigger commitment, and it only doing single-target damage, it can be foiled by Protect. Plus you forgot to mention that it also lowers your Speed.
@JackLeighton-uh6sl19 күн бұрын
A reason he didnt mention might be that it is that while it is technically a move coded into gen 9, no pokemon can actually learn the move so it is unplayable without hacking it in.
@klashslash6919Ай бұрын
1:13 i see Guacamole Gamer Fart 9000, so now i have another channel on the list of channels thati can connect to Therussianbadger
@Freebiehuman29 күн бұрын
2:30 kid named spiky shield:
@ninjakirby777Ай бұрын
Mighty cleave for rock is maybe better, cause you can turn every pokemon into Urshifu.
@hardikmittal297229 күн бұрын
Ye man
@SnnsnsSjejsАй бұрын
I’m gonna unleash my poke juice on you
@kratangg-arang29 күн бұрын
I love the concept of other Pokémon learning dragon darts, because it implies that Garchomp is like, carrying some dreepy around in its pockets or something.
@robthoelzАй бұрын
I will say, surprised that none of the pivot moves got a mention. Volt Switch, U-turn, and Flip Turn, while probably not the best moves of their types, are definitely incredibly powerful tools to have.
@donnovanash2334Ай бұрын
Only thing I could argue with is triple arrow for fighting, 50%def drop? allows a partner to kill instantly, 30% flinch? Forces opponent to play the game of focus miss, I'd say it it contends with sacred sword, sure you miss the perfect accuracy and indifference to stat changes, but it's still a solid move
@qedsoku84928 күн бұрын
Calling protect the best move in the game when there’s objectively better versions of it was certainly a take.
@ikerelxungo6808Ай бұрын
10:07 I know gigaton hammer has a really big number with basicaly no drawback, but i think double iron bash is the best steel move, 30% to flinch and you hit twice with 2 60 bp moves. Double iron bash is a 120 base power move, that ignores focus sash and substitute that has a 50% chance to flinch you, has no drawback and it is even a punch move so it gets boosted by iron fist and punching globe
@philipspigelmeyer959Ай бұрын
Honestly i would say sketch is prolly the best normal move just because if every normal tyoe could learn it thats BROKEN. And also pollen puff over uturn? Hell i would say its not really that close either. To be able to hit a quick move and swirch into a prediction is prolly one of the best feelings😂
@murilotheodoro5025Ай бұрын
Nobody is clicking sketch at a vgc match ever
@scorpionvenom90317 күн бұрын
The bug type is the worst type in the game, but they have some of these best moves in the game. Pollen puff, sticky web, tail glow, silk trap, first impression, u-turn, leech life (this one is debatable, but I felt like including it anyway), and quiver dance are among some of the best moves a polemon could learn.
@TheFourthBlackReaperАй бұрын
GIVE DIAMOND STORM TO CARBINK!!! PLEASE!!! MY BOI NEEDS IT!!!
@daigustoemeral3710Ай бұрын
Carbink? More like *CRACKEDbink*
@diegopinkman4084Ай бұрын
Don't mind me, I'm a singles player screaming for Stealth Rocks
@wrongwarp4444Ай бұрын
Hyperspace fury breaks through protect, is stonger than knock off and can never miss, so i think it should have at least been metioned
@Nmoment-uv6jcАй бұрын
It can only be used by hoppa. Its a true signature move, as when any other pokemon tries to use it the game just says no and the move does nothing.
@fe_three_rossesАй бұрын
@@Nmoment-uv6jcbut for the purposes of this video, exclusivity isn't a problem
@Nmoment-uv6jcАй бұрын
@@fe_three_rosses you dont get it. Even if any pokemon could get it, it is a characteristic of the move for it to have no effect when any pokemon but hoopa uses it. If you hack a pikachu with hyperspace fury into a game and you use it, the move does nothing. You can hack a pikachu with judgement and it will work properly, but hyper.fury will do nothing. Its a characteristic of the move, to do nothing when not used by hoopa. Changing that would be a mod, a romhack as you would be modyfying the code of the game.
@melvondrewhite267427 күн бұрын
@@Nmoment-uv6jcAnd Knock-Off Is Only 65 Base Power . Darkiest Lariat Is Better Overall !
@pmahcgop6693Ай бұрын
I think collision course might be the best fighting type move. 100/100 with a secondary effect to nuke out incineroar is amazing. So many physical attackers that aren’t even fighting types could run as really strong coverage to beat the many fighting weak mons that exist. Sacred sword is really consistent but having that extra 10 base power will probably matter more than defence boosts or evasion Strats especially since the 2 main defence boosting mons, zamzenta and stamina archaludon will take 33% more from Collision course.
@tisftfctdАй бұрын
Isn't Steam Eruption just better Scald? It has 110 Base Power and the same secondary effect with just 5% lower accuracy. And despite being a signature move, you said you weren't taking into account which Pokémon learn them.
@abrawolfАй бұрын
This feels like an exception to that, as only one pokemon gets it, and it's a mythical at that
@cold-bloodedbeats4139Ай бұрын
@@abrawolfHe talked about Diamond Storm in the same video, so I think it was just a case of him forgetting that Volcanion exists, as he didn't even mention that it could learn Scald as well
@Neji-XIV4306Ай бұрын
Moxie most likely forgot about the move as he replied to a similar comment with "Shucks."
@philipspigelmeyer959Ай бұрын
He also talked about geomancy so
@Ulazcruz21 сағат бұрын
1:47 "Bear in mind" Aight take my like to the video, Moxie.
@spodermees7791Ай бұрын
15:00 i want to say knock off
@rodjilius19 күн бұрын
I agree
@degeneratewithasideoftidep679519 күн бұрын
Tbf, Knock Off is definitely more accesible, but it’s not the most actual OHKO move out there and it’s max power isn’t comparable to Wicked Blow More utility, less sheer damage
@ryuuraga1619Ай бұрын
I really thought Dragon Dance will be the Dragon move of choice due to how high you can stack the buff it provides.
@Cosmic0508_SCАй бұрын
I would have personally said Dark Void for dark, because there’s nothing balanced about putting two pokemon to sleep. When it comes to nightmares, Smeargle’s pretty prominent in mine 😆 For Rock, what about Wide Guard? Anything that makes Calyrex sad is worth a mention to me! For Psychic, Photon Geyser is BUSTED. It can use either attack or special attack and ignores abilities! For Poison, Malignant Chain is 100 power and 100 accuracy and has a 50/50 chance to apply toxic poison. I would still have said Dire Claw though 🤷♂️
@FalseHeraldАй бұрын
They nerfed Dark Void, so I don't think it counts as the best anymore.
@Cosmic0508_SCАй бұрын
@@FalseHeraldIt’s still a 50/50 on both pokemon!
@KanderUdonАй бұрын
@@Cosmic0508_SCits way too unreliable m8. No one would use it on smeargle if it could still learn it over spore.
@Cosmic0508_SCАй бұрын
@@KanderUdon Agreed - but I still think it’s the best Dark move
@Nmoment-uv6jcАй бұрын
@@Cosmic0508_SC the best dark move is taunt
@satoruneruАй бұрын
This changes only a bit but glacial lance got nerfed in gen 9 to have 120 instead of 130, idk what would come close to it regardless though 15:27
@RaguPastaSauceАй бұрын
11:57 I know this is a doubles-focused video, but as a singles-only player that only has a surface level understanding of the VGC metagame, hearing any move other than U-turn threw me for a loop. Much less a move I've never heard of before.
@WingedFish66Ай бұрын
And Stealth Rock for Rock type
@BigThonk999Ай бұрын
6:08 Wolfe screaming in agony rn
@thunderbolt4567Ай бұрын
2:30 honestly, even in singles it's the best normal move
@kj117br5Ай бұрын
I'd argue shed tail or substitute
@IsedPlaysАй бұрын
Nah its splash
@flamenamiАй бұрын
Not in Gen 9. Can count the number of protects in OU I’ve seen on one hand the entire generation.
@thunderbolt4567Ай бұрын
@ i didn’t mean in gen 9 specifically, I meant historically across every generation
@N27929 күн бұрын
Yall are forgetting, it’s recover/soft boiled by far
@EnderPrydeАй бұрын
Okay: but counterpoint on Water/Fire/Electric/Ice moves: Partner Pikachu and Partner Eevees special moves are downright broken. Splishy Splash (water) is a 90 power Scald that has a 30% chance to paralyze instead of burn. Buzzy Buzz (electric) is a 90 power Nuzzle with a guaranteed paralysis. Sizzly Slide (fire) is a 90 power guaranteed burn And Freezy Frost (ice) is a 90 power attack with a haze stapled on. Oh, and all of these special moves are 100% accurate.
@EnderPrydeАй бұрын
I don't think the others hang compared to your list, TBH. Dark and Psychic setting up screens or reflect are not better than Trick Room or Wicked Blow. Grass setting leech seed is not better than Spore. Fairy being a cure-bell isn't better than Geomancy. Flying isn't better than Dragon Ascent. And Normal is just.. Return. Which is not better than Protect
@milliondollarmistakeАй бұрын
Maybe I'm wrong but the vibes I get from you are of someone who feels dirty doing a lot of the youtube algo shit like asking for likes and the subscribers vs actual viewers thing but do it anyway because it works and getting paid to talk about Pokemon is a pretty sweet job (from the outside anyway). And honestly if I'm right I respect that a lot lol, so many of youtubers sound so phony at best. At worse you get youtubers who sound like they're trying to guilt trip their audience which I imagine is particularly effective with younger viewers which Pokemon would obviously have a lot of. The honesty you give off is refreshing. I don't know what spurred me to write this (probably that 'tism dawg in me) but keep up the good work.
@typemasters2871Ай бұрын
I do like how you make a quick mention of some of the best moves when it comes to pure power before explaining why a move with lower or no damage is better Considering moves like Sacred Sword are considered the best for their type because of power and consistency does make me want there to be more wide spread minimum 90 power 100 accuracy moves with no drawbacks
@ParkyMarzАй бұрын
I think every type should get two 90 BP 100% accuracy moves, one physical and one special... Why does shadow ball have to be weaker? Why does high horsepower have to miss?
@alisona.416620 күн бұрын
6:09 Glad to see that the Lunar Moose Program is finally able to start.
@Mijzelffan15 күн бұрын
Protect is 100% outclassed by Max Guard
@MoxieBoosted15 күн бұрын
Every regular move is outclassed by its max move. That's why they're max moves.
@Mijzelffan15 күн бұрын
@@MoxieBoosted I wouldn't say every move is, some excellent moves are probably still better because of their secondary effect. Spore, Scald, Pollen Puff, Diamond Storm, Double Iron Bash, Trick Room, Geomancy, Knock Off, Glacial Lance and Astral Barrage are still arguably better than their max moves, with max ooze and max knuckle not being great either due to low base power. Only Max Quake, Max Flare and Max Airstream would definitely beat out the other moves of their types.
@GeneralSecura27 күн бұрын
I want to throw Mighty Cleave (Iron Boulder's signature move) into the ring for consideration for the best Rock-type move. 100% accuracy, 95 base power, boosted by Sharpness, and bypasses Protect (and similar moves). It would literally let every physical Rock-type attacker become Urshifu. I don't think any physical Rock-type attacker wouldn't run this move if they had access to it.
@Adrian-ze9udАй бұрын
I mean, aren't Spiky Shield, Baneful Bunker, King's Shield, Burning Bulwark, Obstruct and Silk Trap just better versions of protect? If any pokemon could use them, they would be absolutely broken.
@SuperSayianWarrior27 күн бұрын
Some don't work on status like protect, and they require physical contact which is not every physical attack, and like 2 special attacks ti trigger where Protect and to a lesser extend Detect just say nope under 99.9 cases
@castform7Ай бұрын
I'm still wondering why they made *Dragon Ascent,* a move in a game series where the *Dragon type* attacks have *Dragon* in the name...Flying type.
@DrakoNotDracoАй бұрын
Damage fairies
@melvondrewhite267427 күн бұрын
@@DrakoNotDracoWhich Was Stupid , They Were Literally Just Kissing Rayquaza’s A$$ . 😂
@pichufan01Ай бұрын
I can’t believe tackle was the best normal move, I didn’t know how much utility it had!
@TimeToSine39Ай бұрын
Me when Quiver Dance doesn't make the list:
@acegamez2564Ай бұрын
Iron Fumble. I'm naming the Iron Bundle I got traded that now. God tier nickname
@BurnadaKnigterАй бұрын
What about detect for fighting? Its literally a protect copy, right?
@starryfaeАй бұрын
i do think body press is worth considering personally, it’s just an interesting move that gives more utility to defensive mons which is sick
@badorni69Ай бұрын
Also p sure knock off > wicked blow, it does almost the same amount of damage due to the 50% boost to the 65 it gets when hitting an item and getting rid of the item is such a ridiculously busted secondary effect
@stanlejaune658112 күн бұрын
Imagine being able to poison your opponent with Muk-Alola Poison Touch on top of that...
@RealFordMustangАй бұрын
My man forgot about triple arrows for fighting type. 90 power with high crit chance, chance to flinch and chance for defense drop. Kinda great. Using it on my Blaziken on radical red.
@TheGamingGuyYTАй бұрын
Surprised the rock move wasn't ivy cudgel considering it's 100 power 100 accurate with a high crit chance if you can get 1 focus energy off its guaranteed crit on a 100 power 100 accurate move
@SuperSayianWarrior27 күн бұрын
Ivy Cudgel though is a gimmick move that matches the primary type. By your logic Rvevelation Dance also works
@TheGamingGuyYT27 күн бұрын
@SuperSayianWarrior it's still a rock move every rock type pokemon would want it
@mang0_p29 күн бұрын
Mighty Cleave is one of the most slept on moves tbh. Perfectly accurate physical rock-type move that breaks through Protect with full damage
@VioletLunaChan29 күн бұрын
Overall pretty good, the only one I think I'd disagree with is Electric, imo the best Electric-Move is Volt Switch. It keeps the momentum up in both Singles and Doubles and Electric being a good offensive type is what does it for me.
@kailesperance192228 күн бұрын
I think it’s thunder wave cause Thundurus terrorized VGC for years with the move.
@TheBlundoАй бұрын
6:40 You would have a 67% chance to wake up turn 3 if you look at each turn individually (which you are doing since you put 100% turn 4). This is a perfect example of the Monty Hall problem.
@WiiFan-130019 күн бұрын
4:19 Don't forget how they had the Iron Plate balls to remove your own moves... that already existed x_x
@dahonlovely235029 күн бұрын
10:50 gigaton gambit my. . . GOD. . .
@epicwuexcaliburumbra173629 күн бұрын
Kingambit wasn’t suggercoating it.
@amedeotoraldo5840Ай бұрын
I'm not sure whether i like the idea to ignore some moves due to interacting with the meta in a certain specific way. One could argue that stealth rocks is the best rock move, yet it only takes a rapid spin (or a rock resistance) to essentially negate it, plus it sees no use in vgc. Same thing with toxic spikes.
@Dark-667817 күн бұрын
Power herb, recycle, geomancy
@faursh65929 күн бұрын
Wicked Blow over Knock Off is kind of crazy imo, any physical mon (and sometimes special mons) will run knock off if given access to it because of how good it is
@melvondrewhite267427 күн бұрын
It’s 65 Base Power . 😂
@melvondrewhite267427 күн бұрын
Bro Even Darkiest Lariat Is Better Than Knock-Off .
@faursh65927 күн бұрын
@@melvondrewhite2674 65 base power if they aren't holding an item or have an ability/item that otherwise makes it impossible to be removed (sticky hold or megastones for example). It goes up to ~100 base power if they have an item and removes that item from them and I don't think I have to say how much having an item can decide whether or not you win fights. Sure wicked blow is effectively 150 bp and goes through defense changes but the sheer utility and usefulness of knock off outshadows it imo. I did yap a bit but I stand behind the fact that knock off is the best dark type move.
@melvondrewhite267427 күн бұрын
@@faursh659 Which Is Irrelevant Because It’s Still 65 Base Power Even If You’re Holding An Item . Using Knock-Off Means Nothing On Anything That Isn’t A Ghost Or Psychic-Type . It’s Still Relatively *WEAK* In Comparison ! 💯
@melvondrewhite267427 күн бұрын
@@faursh659 Darkiest Lariat Is Better Cause It’s 85 Base Power & Ignores Stat Changes . Wicked Blow Is The *STRONGEST* Dark Type Move In General . 💯💯
@James-dq1uyАй бұрын
I live in Nebraska, and you're not wrong!
@teeweezevenАй бұрын
7:15 well, yes. May as well count poison and flying too, for bulbasaur and rowlet
@Jai-xv5gzАй бұрын
so excited for all the protect variants to be best of their type lol
@Jai-xv5gzАй бұрын
>calls spiky shield the best move in the game >spore is the best grass move in the game >??
@abel_medarisАй бұрын
I feel like Pollen Puff should be made into a whole category of moves called Resonance Moves or something: Psychic Resonance, Aura Resonance, Electromagnetic Resonance, Spirit Resonance, Shadow Resonance, Draco Resonance, Dazzling Resonance, and rename the OG to Pheromone Resonance. It could pretty much be a gimmick available to support mons that aren’t normal, steel, rock, ground, poison, or starter types which don’t have great associations with natural/fictional energy types.
@MiddlewАй бұрын
I feel like Strength Sap deserves a mention, although spore obviously clears
@melvondrewhite267427 күн бұрын
Strength Sap Is Only Good On Physical Attackers , You Wouldn’t Dare Try That Move On A Special Attacker ..
@Middlew27 күн бұрын
@@melvondrewhite2674I mean sure, but the move is often insane in how much it heals as well as reducing future damage. Most attackers have both att and sp.att. Most walls would kill for it. I guess it’s better for singles though..
@HopefulBlue29 күн бұрын
I was gonna comment tailwind would like to have a word when I was halfway through the video, but you mentioned it at the end. I think tailwind is far more impactful on the game than flying close combat. The scenarios where you'd want tailwind for speed control on your team is probably far higher than the scenarios where you have a physical flying type on your team that would appreciate the move or even physical attackers using it as a coverage option.
@chiquidelarosaАй бұрын
MOM WAKE UP, MOXIE DROPPED A NEW VID
@TheFawseАй бұрын
“Diamond Storm is ok because it was tied to a weak pokemon like Diancie with 100 attack” Mega Diancie: “how about 160?”
@shinygoomy9784Ай бұрын
Secret sword is also a great fighting move. 5 bp weaker than sacred but is special. Plus, it hits physical while using the special atk stat.
@theman6422Ай бұрын
One of the strangest moves that is just obscenely strong has to be Aura Wheel. I thought it was just like an 80 bp move, but its 110? And Morpeko can just change its stab each turn? Its such an oddly strong move, especially for a Pika-Clone. Imagine if other electric or dark type mons got this move. Kingambit with a speed boost every time it uses it? Thats always fun
@PKshockwaveАй бұрын
"What do you mean landorus is paralyzed!? " I felt that frustration in my soul, Marcos. 😂😂😂
@djimonmcdonald908528 күн бұрын
Now do it for physical special and status.
@BillysaurusRex29 күн бұрын
I wanna make the case for Encore for best nomal type move. Being able to either force a mon to switch or be shut down for several turns is really huge. And even the threat of it puts in work.
@FlipzMCL28 күн бұрын
I'd argue that Knock Off potentially outclasses Wicked Blow; being able to remove an opponent's item is _extremely_ valuable utility, and the move itself isn't exactly lacking in damage output.
@GravityIsFalling28 күн бұрын
112 BP with intimidate ignore is much stronger then a one time 97 BP
@FlipzMCL28 күн бұрын
@GravityIsFalling Raw damage isn't everything, though; item control can have a huge effect on a team's momentum, and matches can be won or lost based on that momentum shift.
@SuperSayianWarrior27 күн бұрын
@FlipzMCL but ignoring the one move that is on 99.9% of teams over 1 time item lose, "ohh i just lost my toxic orb on my mon already poisoned, ohhh. Oh I'll protect, get 6.25% my hp back. Now I survive your next attack"
@nahte123456Ай бұрын
Kind of surprised switch moves aren't mentioned here. Volt Switch, U Turn, Parting Shot, Chilly Reception. I'm not saying they should all be the best move of their types but just the sheer utility they have is insane. I can't think of any mon that has one of these moves that won't at least consider them sometimes.
@galelululuАй бұрын
I love that Trick Room is one of a set of “room” moves but the rest are just miles worse lol
@josenobi3022Ай бұрын
6:40 mistake, on turn 3 there’s a 50% chance to wake up That’s because in total, there’s a 33% chance to wake up on turn 3, but if you even got to turn 3, that means you didn’t wake up on turn 2 so that changes the odds 15:34 astral barrage was never 130BP and glacial lance isn’t anymore