The Fall of Tim Ballard | Lawsuit, Excommunication, Movie Sequels (feat. Jordan & McKay)

[@lady8jane]

When he said "never before has there been a war on children in America" I got so angry! Just look up Orphan Trains or Residential Schools if you want to ruin your day. Horrible things were done to children FROM OFFICIAL INSTITUTIONS in this country.

[@valolafson6035]

That's not a war on children though. That was a war on Indigenous people as a whole.

[@lady8jane]

@@valolafson6035 Residential Schools, yes, but Orphan Trains were shipping white orphans from cities on the East Coast to frontier towns in the West. Ideally to get adopted into families but the reality was very different and much darker.

[@maybemablemaples2144]

​@@valolafson6035 bro children don't have rights still in the US.

[@aracely909]

And how much abuse of children by people who hide behind religion

[@kneau]

@@lady8jane speaking as a graduate from CCM of WWASP, Utah is _all for_ residential schools -- so long as they can pass bills to adequately modify what that term even means.

[@edgeninja]

Ironically, that stupid movie was the worst thing that could've happened to Tim Ballard. Once people started asking questions, it was all over.

[@beermakeup4555]

Ya just like when real house wives go on the show . They end up going to prison because people start asking questions

[@maryvampiregirl666]

Same with Eduardo Verástegui LMFAO

[@Butterfly-ql4pg]

Safe to say one of the few good things that came out of that movie was him finally being exposed for the scum bucket he really is

[@LLC4269]

No, people have been trying to sound the alarm for years and years. By the time the movie actually came out operation underground railroad had done an internal investigation into the women's claims of sexual abuse and harassment because they are OUR employees. They fired Tim Ballard

[@_s827]

I didn't finish the whole video yet but did you guys see that Angel studios seems to be advertising some new movie with a similar title as sound of freedom? It was one of the annoying right-wing Twitter ads for a while last month

[@lisamartinez9245]

We did anti trafficking work in India. For nearly 3 years. A couples ruse is not a thing. It’s stupidly wrong on so many levels.

[@lisamartinez9245]

@BuddhaWho777 who is then?

[@cccgq]

It doesn’t even make sense. Why would you bring someone you didn’t want to know about this in the first place?

[@anothernightonmars]

Can we please get JD Vance next?

[@coldwar45]

Second this

[@ennuiblue4295]

​@@coldwar45 third! ❤🤚

[@leslielousma7913]

Greetings from Kerrville, Texas. Hubs and I are down here looking for housing for the big move from Michigan.

[@RealBradMiller]

Absolutely!!! Begging, from Ohio! 😂

[@finchfry]

I read Vance's Wiki page as soon as he was announced as VP candidate and immediately said out loud "ohhhh I'm gonna need James to tell me about this guy"

[@byeblckbirdxx]

53:59 one little update here. Central American gangs have changed their tattooing practices to evade what’s left of local law enforcement. Your older members will have the face tattoos McKay described, but the younger ones will either cover their tattoos with long sleeves or have a small tattoo in a spot that only other members will know about. This started around 2018

[@anaischampignon4455]

My mom actually started listening to Sound of Freedom last week. I walked in on her and went "mom are you watching the Tim Ballard movie??" she didn't know anything about him and so i explained the whole thing to her and she was so sad and disappointed. she stopped watching the movie obviously but she had genuinely been believing this man was a genuine hero!! (my mom is sensitive to a white savior movie) anyway since she was watching it on MY account she now denies the whole thing and pretends it was me watching it... but thank you still for reporting on her and informing both me and my mom!!

[@whatever3145]

My mom wouldn't give a shit. Good for yours

[@Biscuitboy4ever]

completely unnecessary gaslighting by your mom lmao

[@pssurvivor]

i had a similar experience where i found my mom watching it on Amazon Prime and she had no clue. We aren't even Americans or in the US. When i explained the murky story behind it she was mortified and stopped watching. She was very embarrassed that she got hoodwinked into watching that movie

[@cambowsher0613]

That is so fucking weird what’s even the point?!?

[@bethanychatman9531]

@@cambowsher0613 whats's weird?

[@leahness1121]

A 2 hour James episode? It's not even my birthday.

[@h0neycrumbz]

A very merry unbirthday to us my friend! 🎉🎉

[@Cosmically_Forsaken]

I feel SO vindicated because years ago I was warning people to not donate to OUR and that it seemed shady and got railroaded for it. Before any of this came out. People were awful to me for speaking how I felt about how shady it all felt. I’m so heartbroken for all of the victims of Tim. But I’m so glad this is all out in the open now

[@Cosmically_Forsaken]

Also, side note, before I even knew this video was coming out I think I successfully managed to make my father disillusioned from Visions of Glory today 💪🏻

[@floraposteschild4184]

Thank you for doing that. I find it irritating when people come into an anonymous comment section, saying "not all [religious group]". No doubt; but are they getting up at their church and fighting abuses publicly, any way they can?

[@ericwiddison7523]

For years I saw OUR fundraising efforts everywhere. At first I thought it sounded okay, but the longer it went on, the more it seemed like they were really into appearances (and fundraising), and the more that people associated with them (notably Utah AG Sean Reyes) would engage in self-serving nonsense. It's been at least 5 years since I had a positive opinion of OUR.

[@larissabrglum3856]

Yeah, I also had a feeling Tim "protested too much" about sexual immorality

[@Natalie.D]

I want to know if all those people who were die hard oUR fans and donators, now denounce Tim Ballard or they just sweep the facts under the rug?

[@liryns]

it's giving "hey Maeby maybe we should kiss again to show how much they don't pay attention to us"

[@tragenlang8834]

One minor nitpick: in the United States, “mainline Christianity” tends to refer to the older denominations which skew more liberal (Episcopalian, United Methodist, ELCA, PCUSA, etc). Mainline churches have nowhere as much emphasis on the End Times as the evangelical/Baptist/Pentecostal/charismatic spectrum of churches that people consider “mainstream”. My experience with mainline churches is that they don’t care (much) about the End Times, and often consider it a distraction from the Christian life

[@dayzdnconfuz3d]

Catholicism also much less emphasis on end times- completely different interpretation of revelations from evangelicals … also DEF don’t use the scofield bible (abomination).

[@angeline6477]

As a United Methodist I can attest to that. The most that really gets told about "the end times" is basically "Christ has died, he's risen, he'll come again eventually. In the meantime lets help our community and make this world a better and more loving place"

[@Rosarium2007]

Episcopalian and I echo that and what Angelina64 said above.

[@JJ-M]

Raised ECLA. That's all correct. Hell, i dont know a single time anyone in church mentioned revelations, any of the end times prophecies, any of it. We genuinely focused primarily on the "good works" portion of the bible, and on raising money for church members who'd fallen on hard times. I'm agnostic now, but, I have zero bad things to say about my former church. They were what I imagine when I picture positive Christianity, instead of the more influential national embarrassment of the Southern Baptists. Now, is that to say they are without sin as far as the usual suspects go? Institutionally no. The specific pastors I had? Never said a single bad word against any kind of people, and one of them would have been offended by the mere idea of using Christianity as a tool to bludgeon others. A rarity these days, but, I look back on him as a rather positive influence.

[@vainpiers]

I'm Anglican and there was no emphasis on the devil or end times in my church. I think the devil is mentioned once at lent for trying to dissuade jesus from fasting but like he's not described as a threat we need to be on guard about.

[@crouchingidiot]

I already knew he didn’t care about kids, but when he made the comment about giving them “p0rn0graphy in the name of s3x education” that showed just how little he cares. Kids need s3x ed for many reasons, one of the key reasons being that with that knowledge they can understand what’s happening to them if someone is abusing them, and have the words to describe it.

[@lazyperfectionist3978]

if anything, getting comprehensive education made it absolutely sure that I didn't want to do any of it in my adulthood, the visceral discomfort during the "condom on this plastic banana" section definitely helped me come to terms with my asexuality (despite also having a high-libido). Considering none of my classmates ever had underaged pregnancies, I'd say it was mostly a success

[@Lemoncakelover678]

So much of these people that are against sex ed negates that kids aren't being taught the sex itself specifically if at all, it only focuses on the things that will keep you safe from it like conceptions, consent etc...and surely, sexual abuse should be mentioned for kids to be aware of especially for child sex trafficking no?

[@Cosmically_Forsaken]

Also in response to Tim and Glenn Beck, some of the victims of Tim reached out to Glenn and he sat and talked to them then looked into the allegations. When he did that he changed his tune. I don’t give him many kudos but I’m grateful that he listened for once

[@LeafHuntress]

I don't like Glenn Beck, but he sometimes is able to change his mind on things, so that doesn't surprise me.

[@bendyrland7213]

I also have to give credit where it's due.

[@FabricofTime]

Glen Beck seems to have a tiny spark of a soul left; he's always struck me as at least sincere. Not that what he's sincere about is good or correct most of the time, but I think he does genuinely think he's doing good things.

[@darkstarr984]

Yeah, Glenn Beck himself will generally change his opinion based on evidence when people present it to him. I can’t say the same of anyone in his audience.

[@scottlester7939]

Great video. I feel like there was a missed opportunity to call it The Ballad of Tim Ballard

[@mookinbabysealfurmittens]

Hah!

[@Gildedmuse]

This just came up on my listening queue and I genuinely assumed that was the name before this comment flashed up on the comment screen. Thanks for the heads up!

[@feliciasjoberg9886]

😆

[@CafeLu]

HA!

[@uqox]

Is anyone else absolutely terrified for their adopted children? Both Ballards give me the creeps, and any time I see that dynamic, I fear for the children. I fear even more when affluent social media personalities go to foreign countries and snatch up Black and Chinese children (the white savior thing in play) to show how called to serve they are, and then they turn out to be opportunistic monsters. *Where are the Ballard's adopted children? Are they safe?*

[@Teajay21]

Yeah the fact that they "rescued" their adopted children makes me super suspicious

[@sierramahina9064]

Absolutely terrified and disgusted. I watch Tim’s stories on IG and it’s gag worthy how he portrays his Haitian children

[@sierramahina9064]

@@Teajay21they’re trafficked for Mormon eternal families purposes at best, don’t want to mention what “at worst” might be

[@dyoung3648]

Hellywood creeps 😢

[@prudentreality]

SO GLAD you joined the Rev Jen in this sacred calling of thoughtfully and respectfully calling out the bullshittery. As always, WONDERFUL video, solid info, thorough view, and I love that you brought on our favorite exmos to walk us through some insider info! Here’s to continuing to find organizations that ACTUALLY help protect kids. They are the ones that suffer most from Tim Bastards bullshit.

[@shannonpeterson1694]

So Tim busts orphanages, with donated money, Catherine uses donations to bankroll loans for orphans. Is this human trafficking?

[@larissabrglum3856]

Sure seems like it

[@Natalie.D]

Yes.

[@snakepit101]

Yep, Tim sees an poor orphanage full of children as a beautiful way to make some sweet sweet cash, and get these little brown kids into the hands of Mormon parents.

[@bendyrland7213]

Yes. This whole operation is.

[@LeafHuntress]

Why yes, yes it is.

[@veronicaaristeguieta3072]

Can we get a video about JD Vance, trad caths, Project 2025, and Opus Dei next or soon?? Also Janet Rusan just makes me think of the Star Wars EU Ruusan Reformation, but the Ruusan Sith order is much cooler.

[@ScotchCherokeeGirl]

That's what I'm also waiting for and we need that video after the worst RNC ever.

[@PeachysMom]

@@ScotchCherokeeGirlamen! It’s looking very dire.

[@maryvampiregirl666]

If FF make a vid about the Opus Dei they MUST mention Robert Hanssen lmfao

[@dyoung3648]

How about Clinton kidnapped kids from Haiti?

[@pssurvivor]

i'm not american and do not reside in the US but know about ballard thanks to my youtube consumption (especially fundie fridays). so imagine my surprise when, on a trip to my parents', i walked in on my mom watching Sound of Freedom on Prime! I explained stuff to her and she was very mortified. She had no idea and I was shocked at Prime having it available without some kind of strong disclaimer. My mom's not dumb but as an older person she's susceptible to certain messages. Prime should really not have an actual propaganda piece out there like that with so much of a warning for unsuspecting viewers!

[@searchingfororion]

Unfortunately Prime is extremely notorious for this, they even give misleading descriptions (especially for "documentary"/"true story" type films) it's been like this since far before there was premium content, rentals, or add-on channels. (I was one of the first people to use their streaming service *way* back when it was new and the only opt-in was an annual plan, typically paid in one large payment). Unfortunately, there's so much more intentionally awful things built-in (and early warning signs) than just the warehouse and employee treatments. I won't detail further because it's so large now most consumers don't have alternatives. I'm glad you were able to educate your mother and set the record straight. *Do* continue to use caution on the media supplied and promoted. Things like that happening aren't 'accidental.'

[@pssurvivor]

@@searchingfororion yes. Nowadays my mom will occasionally call me to ask if a certain show/movie is alright to watch. I just laugh and tell her to make up her own mind but exercise caution and scepticism. I'm sure it's a lot harder to communicate with older folks about these issues in the US

[@echomikekilo63]

@@pssurvivor “My mom’s not dumb but as an older person she’s susceptible to certain messages.” I’m almost afraid to ask. How old IS your mother.

[@alittleclareity]

I'm only fifteen minutes in and I'm CRYING laughing at the tone in which y'all are discussing Sean Reyes. I'm from Utah (hey from a fellow ex-Mo, Jordan and McKay!) and was associated with him many years ago--I edited the text for his campaign ads while I worked for a different and I N C R E D I B L Y shady company. Reyes was such a fake, jovial, Smiley Gladhand kind of dude. He was determined to coin a nickname for me and called me "C.C. Rich" every time he saw me. I fucking hated it. A friend of mine plays tabletop games with one of his kids and his family relationships are a shambles; his kid hates him. He's sacrificed everything important to scrape up a molecule of importance with a red state and has humiliated himself in the process.

[@whatever3145]

That's comforting. Good for them

[@CJMGalaxy]

Ya love to hear it. Kid seems cool

[@caseyw.6550]

Whew...😂😂😂 That's a lot

[@plasticjesus444]

wow that was a rollercoaster 😆

[@alittleclareity]

@@plasticjesus444 bahaha I am so sorry, absolute word vomit up there

[@KP-nf4yl]

Ballard wasn’t just practicing the “couple’s ruse” in public - he had women volunteers, not his wife, staying in his hotel rooms and SHOWERING with him. Predatory behavior, anyone?

[@4232emmie]

YES!!! I binged all of Jordan and Mckay's content about Tim and OUR just this past week. Perfect timing for a fundie fridays collab to pull it all together

[@ashleeaolson]

As a fellow Exmo, y'all did such a great job of thoroughly covering everything! Bringing in our favorite apostates was a really important choice to highlight what a big deal this was in the mormon community. I have family who will no longer speak to me because I spoke out against Ballard last summer BEFORE the movie was even released. It's been really interesting and upsetting to watch unfold, and you all did a great job covering it.

[@melissabailey5930]

It's always so interesting to hear about Mormonism. I grew up in catholicism and my fellow Catholic cousin converted to mormonism at 24! He is happy and married a pretty down to earth Mormon lady. I like her much more than him at this point cause he is constantly trying to shove his ideas down our throats. I'm still always interested to hear what he is being taught. Catholicism is already pretty extreme, but catholics can come in all sorts of shapes and sizes. He thought catholics were too forgiving (what?!) and was the first of my cousins to convert. All his siblings converted to born again Christian mega churches, v homophobic.

[@alittleclareity]

As a former Mormon who married a former Catholic: HE THOUGHT WHAT?

[@whatever3145]

...shes enabling him.

[@LLC4269]

Apparently Tim is considering converting to Catholicism since the Mormons don't want him anymore. Trump hosted some event at Mara largo where the Catholic Church gave an award or something.

[@melop9242]

I remember the last video on him, I commented that Sound of Freedom hadn't reached Europe yet, it did a few months later, as well as gained an audience in some latin American countries (where my family is from) unfortunately. My biggest worry is, the movie got here, but the rest of the info on him has not, truth is still taking it's time to reach people.

[@luislambis7979]

La verdad llegará el tiempo de Dios es perfecto

[@maggiewinnike7309]

I fucking love when 2 of my fave youtube channels combine. It's always such an awesome treat.

[@larissabrglum3856]

Like the Jimmy Timmy Power Hour

[@ameowingbird]

"they want to gender mutilate!" they love using that word (mutilate), where's that one scene from princess bride when you need it

[@HarryDirtay]

They'll unironically support circumcision though😮

[@Teajay21]

​@@HarryDirtayAnd unnecessary surgery on intersex babies to try to make them fit into a box

[@kneau]

The adoptions in Utah are currently a hot news topic. Exploitative. Poorly regulated. Bills seemingly being passed to retroactively allow some licensing fraud...

[@bonesandhearts5683]

Almost like they’re doing human trafficking

[@Materogringo]

1:13:16 the old church handbook said that disciplinary councils were to (and im paraphrasing here) “protect the innocent, help the sinner repent, and protect the good name of the church.” The wording is changed now in the handbook, but its basically the same

[@ImaCatMaia]

Sound of Hope looks like a great White Savior flick

[@MrSeedi76]

It's more of an average garbage flick.

[@IGotADroneYay]

Dead Domain did a good review of it. Like Sound of Freedom, this was a shelved movie that Angel Studios bought to release.

[@kelseyannelyse]

so as an adoptee adopted by a very evangelical family, I have feelings on the end here...not a fan. not a fan. adoption/foster care are very big, very complex social problems indeed. I hate any media (and it is sooooo common) that spins adoption as all positive. Ugh but of course they are.

[@kelseyannelyse]

another note - another organization you may want to look into. when I was in college, I worked heavily with anti-trafficking work/networks and one time I got taken to Elijah Rising which is a really weird evangelical centered anti trafficking work in Houston. This video hit home for me because I went along thinking I'd be an advocate like I was used to and ended up getting into a weird volunteer orientation thing and I bailed after the intro but it was weird (satan is in places, seeing symbols and signs as of the devil like outside strip clubs etc)

[@kelseyannelyse]

omg I just remembered they did a van tour for youth kids on a "mission trip" to see local spots where trafficking was allegedly occurring in Houston. Seems unsafe.. yeah Elijah rising is interesting

[@MissMeggarz142]

I absolutely adore this channel and its creators. So glad to be able to tune in when Jordan and McKay stop by! 😸 Their channel is a fantastic companion to Fundie Fridays...thanks to them, I learned about how Mormon fizzy drinks are a culture all its own. 😂

[@lady8jane]

Learning about Soda Shops completely blew my mind!

[@feliciasjoberg9886]

Dom't forget the crumbl cookie wars! 😉

[@PacificallyYours]

51:18. That “not a sexy pic” totally looks like, if you took an aerial view of a random “THAT GUY” on 2008 Chatroulette. 😂💀

[@PacificallyYours]

And it’s not sexy. It’s wtffff

[@LLC4269]

I saw that and immediately wanted to take five showers. Like why the hell is he sending this to his employees and how is this helping to fight trafficking??

[@MyWalk3296]

Jesus also said when you hear people talking like this ie such as wars, endings blah blah blah not to listen or believe them for even he does not know. So yeah, carry on. He also warned about false profits, apostates & blasphemes also to be discerning, for many will come in my name & not all will be so. The wolves in sheep clothing thing. Child trafficking & explotation is real but the ones doing the real work do not also exploit it for their own means & profits either.

[@whatever3145]

It's real and if any of them actually cared about how it happens in America it could change so many lives

[@whatever3145]

Also youre assuming there's alot of Jesus Christians. There aren't. Way more god Christians that want everyone to burn

[@alabaster2163]

He did have a naked 8 year old in the garden when he was arrested

[@kylegonewild]

If only he warned about false profits, maybe prosperity gospel would have never came around! He wasn't a fan of false prophets though.

[@str8ballinSA]

@@kylegonewildIsn't "False Profits" type of accounting that Enron used?

[@garfieldshauntedmansion420]

SO HAPPY TO SEE CARAH MENTIONED!!! Nuance Hoe has been covering this from the start!!

[@coldwar45]

Lynn Packer as well, he was the OG when it came to covering Tim

[@nathanyou1899]

So... why didn't he just have his wife pretend to be his wife?

[@melz6625]

Then how would he be able to cheat on his wife during these “operations”?

[@Mia199603]

@@melz6625 exactly, it'd defeat the purpose of organizing this whole scam.

[@renaissancewoman3770]

Excellent work guys, this was thoroughly enjoyable! Shout out to Jen, Jordan, Mckay and James, love what you guys do. Oh also Carah. Exmo content helps so much with healing ❤

[@debdeb327]

I found the explanation of the Mormon excommunication process so fascinating; I don't have any connections to the LDS church but I grew up in a very strict conservative Protestant denomination and my father was excommunicated after he separated from my mother and left me and my sister (he didn't go no-contact, just moved out and we really only talked on the phone after that). Excommunications were not common, but when they did happen, the congregation was asked to stay after the benediction at the end of the service so the excommunication could be announced from the pulpit. My mom had us go to a different church the morning that announcement was made (although we did go to the evening service that night) and the whole thing was hugely traumatizing to 7-year-old me. I'm still kind of grappling with it in therapy.

[@viridianacortes9642]

I always thought excommunication was bs. No one can claim your connection or salvation by God is nullified. Like chill. Let that person sort out their relationship with God if they make a mistake.

[@Nassifeh]

​@@viridianacortes9642 It actually usually doesn't mean that, at least for (most) Protestants. It's literally contrary to the Solas to suggest that a church has any actual authority on salvation, but that doesn't mean they have to be cool with you hanging around if you're a creep, grifter, etc.

[@Ellie-qf7qb]

I've always maintained that TB and the others that took part in these "stings" were just wanting to take part in what was basically an elaborate cosplay. They wanted to feel like superheroes, Johns, Jason Bourne, El Chapo, and GI Joe. They also wanted to steel feel like good Mormons and this is how they decided to accomplish that. The weirdest part about it is no one called them out on how weird this was for years. Even when the organization was shown to not be doing much of anything no one called them out on it. I guess this is just proof as to how much money talks in Utah.

[@teplo2552]

Hey Jen and James! Could you look into and possibly make a video about the homeschool curriculum/community called Classical Conversations? I grew up homeschooled and while I personally was not taught with this curriculum, most people I knew were and I got a good look at it. It feels like MLM meets cult for homeschooling 😅

[@yukiwecker895]

Thanks for keeping me informed on Angel Studios. My ex worked there for about three years during the whole Disney lawsuit. I've met the Harmon bros several times. Nice enough guys in person, but they did have a tendency to push their political views on their employees.

[@HarryDirtay]

Superficial kindness is their MO. It should be said that literally every serial killer ever had neighbors tell media "they were nice, quiet neighbors"

[@linniem0529]

I noticed the hat made the choice to not capitalis Gardy's name. I understand that might have been a design choice. In my opinion, the written language of English has a very specific set of rules for names. By choosing to ignore those rules, it feels like it could push Gardy farther away from being a human and more towards being an object for justified ignorance. It's dehumanizing.

[@lizwilliams8631]

I also just realized that, that messy dark romance book “Haunting Adeline” is just fanfic for this guy

[@jenjohnson8902]

omg. it absolutely is, you pulled that memory out a deep dark place 🤣

[@lizwilliams8631]

@@jenjohnson8902 I knew it felt like Qanon fanfiction already after watching Cindy Pham’s deep dive into it , but after watching this I realized it was Qanon fanfic about this dude and I wanna throw the whole book away 😭

[@Lemoncakelover678]

I would honestly not be surprised if that's the case

[@Teajay21]

100% it's Qanon crossed with Sound of Freedom for sure. Jim Caviezel is probably ready to star in the movie 😂

[@amybrock2592]

I continue to be completely flummoxed by the Conservative and Evangelical fixation on other people's gender identities and conflating gender and sex. They're ignorant, don't care, and completely effed up about sex. Everything is apparently sex and sexualized.

[@obinwataje]

I'm glad we're having this conversation since for too long people have been in denial about the level of actual child trafficking going on in official networks.

[@raydunn8262]

Thank you for the great discussion. 1. Some of the women's civil suit's depositions tie Tim to Janet, the psychic. a. Tim would tell the women that Janet foretold that each woman would be great for the cause. b. Tim would say to the women that the two were married in past lives like Chad Daybell. 2. Tim claimed he had visions. However, he never did anything with them, like prepping. 3. You referred to the following: a) A mother, uncle, and sister forced a 17-year-old boy to escape with them because they thought the End was near. b) The father alerted the authorities and the True Crime Mormon community. c) They were stopped at a northern border. d) The uncle and mother cashed out all their savings and investments. 4. Angles not spoken much about. a. When Ballard was starting OUR, Black leaders asked Ballard to change the name. They didn't want OUR to be confused with the Underground Railboard, the iconic organization founded by one of our country's greatest heros, Harriet Tubman. b. Ballard commissioned a potrait, displaying him and his wife carrying saved children while Harriet T and others are watching in the background. search in a browser: 'Ballard OUR potrait' and look under Images. 5. Ballard, Daybell, Jodi H, and maybe Ruby, all were speakers at the same Preppers' conventions. 6. Great YT podcasts sources: Mormon Discussion, RFM, Mormon Stories, and Mormomish. B

[@whatever3145]

Thank u

[@fionamcgroddy1178]

goddamn that painting is crazy unhinged

[@raydunn8262]

@fionamcgroddy1178 It is gross and spitting on Harriet T and helpers who risked their lives to help enslaved people find freedom. I tried to write another bodily fluid that starts with p for spitting. YT erased it.

[@bendyrland7213]

​@@fionamcgroddy1178It's unbelievable in a bad way.

[@LeafHuntress]

The things under #4 were discussed by King James in the earlier video. Thank you for the rest.

[@aaronbecker5617]

It funny, as in not surprising, how many of these conservative heroes have feet of clay

[@anaischampignon4455]

Regarding the "Joder" temporary tattoo, i think it would make more sense if it was "Fuck!" like a swear, in the Spanish (like from Spain) use of the word. Since Tim was in the Americas it's a little odd, but the tattoos could have come from a spanish company ig edit: but even then jordan's right. it does look super dumb.

[@wearenotdoinggethelp3333]

I saw posters for The Sound of Freedom on buses in my small British town. I know absolutely nobody who's seen it though haha.

[@MrSeedi76]

I watched it once it was available on Prime to see what the fuzz is about. It's simply a bad movie.

[@madelineowen7273]

The care you guys put into your videos is amazing. To have subtitles that are accurate and easy to follow is a lot of work, and i wish it was a standard practice, but unfortunately, it's not so your channel is so incredible. Thanks guys ❤

[@Sarah-s9s1g]

I have a wild Tim Ballard related story. It’s possible my ex did, or at least claims to have, work with him and go on raids to South America with him. This tall tale has government conspiracy woven in and would love to share with you if that sounds like a fun drinking game. Take a shot every time you spot the narcissistic tendency!

[@t1dotaku]

Ah yes the ol' classic "My group kicked me out/shunned me so now I'm going to convert to Catholicism" tactic! Gotta love it! The amount of times my parents would be so happy these people are "converting" and tell me all about it and I'd have to explain that they said this about the last several people that "converted" but ended up doing it as a PR stunt is astonishing. One of these people actually showed up to my church before and I'm still kicking myself for not getting a picture. You can just tell by the way the act and how they express themselves that they don't want to actually be there XD

[@ceciliabrown6341]

As a Catholic I find your story so interesting! Do these PR people announce their conversion and then bail on the RCIA classes?

[@elisa-beary]

So many fringe groups, eerie things & awful crimes lead back to ‘Visions of Glory’ & the church knows this. It’s way past time they publicly denounce that book!!

[@DynamicReactions]

King James please tell me the Hulk Hogan episode is on the way ❤️

[@PanicattheDiscourse]

Ooh good topic!

[@nessy.18]

I suuuper second this!! I gotta see King James dogging on Hulk Hogan i feel like it would heal me😭

[@wesleybush8646]

While Clinton's extracurricular actions in office have undergone some reexamination in recent years, I would like to point out that they most certainly did not "bring him down." I know it was meant as an offhand comment, but due to several factors, President Clinton left office unscathed and more popular than almost any President in modern times at the end of his term. My opinions about the matter personally are nuanced but one key factor was that the people prosecuting him were seen by me and most of the public as unnecessarily partisan and openly hypocritical. The Speaker of the House who led Clinton's impeachment was brought down in the wake, as was his successor, for participating in his own extracurricular activities.

[@myathewolfeh1156]

WHAT is going on in the Mormon community lately? What is being done by Mormon leaders to mitigate these crazy ideologies that keep cropping up in their communities? Has any of this been addressed or do they just ignore it like they do with the FLDS?

[@HarryDirtay]

Lately? From the people who brought you myths about golden plates translated with magic runes in a hat? They've got nothing but absursities in their history😂

[@heavenj7]

Ok this was a great collaboration and topic!! When this movie came out and certain content creators I really loved ( like Annie Elise wtf 😳) were loving this movie and promoting it I was like come on!!!!!?? I smelled fishy right away!! Thx for talking about this!! And god darn he’s creepy!!!!

[@loorthedarkelf8353]

47:05 I knew that! Its how I got to see Hbomberguy's Christmas video a year early- someone who had access via the patreon added it to a chronological playlist of all his Measured Response Videos 😂

[@kelseykolorful678]

So sad I missed the premier for this one but I was perishing from COVID. I still have covid but feel better enough to be awake. Perfect treat. Also Jordan and McKay crossover episode is everything I needed.

[@Hannahgs]

The fake tattoos 😂😂😂 it’s not just that the grammar is wrong, like no one who speaks Spanish would get that, but they look so fake to anyone that has ever gotten tattoos. Shiny and dark dark black like tattoos are only that black right after you get them and there would be visible redness around them. He looks like a cringey American tourist who got henna an hour ago, not the vibe he was apparently going for

[@daenerys02]

Despite the channel name I'm always surprised when I see a video on a Friday 😂

[@raydunn8262]

Please note. Most, if not all, the women gave depositions; I don't know if they are still public. 1. None of the depositions indicated one child was rescued. 2. Some of the depositions are extremely detailed, too detailed. 3. Commentary if a child was rescued was immaterial to the suit. However, a couple depositions go on and on.

[@valolafson6035]

What does ''too detailed'' mean?

[@raydunn8262]

I was getting there; I took a break. 1. Some are seven pages or more. I think maybe two to four are long. 2. Some weren't proofread. Some have many run-on sentences. 3. Included are unrelated matters. 4. Some sound vindictive, depositions should contain just the facts. 5. Some state very strong opinions, not appropriate. RFM (Radio Free Mormon) on his channel, Mormon Discussion read all last September and October. RFM, like me, wants the victims to receive justice. How some of the depositions are worded, it could be counterproductive. He's an ex-Mormon and lawyer. As he read the dispositions, he critiqued them. There are at least ten ex-Mormon channels like Fundie Fridays. RFM and five others are as good as Fundie Fridays. However, they address more specific issues, not just individuals. They made it; however, they want to help Mormons and ex-Mormons.

[@geekcollage]

​@@raydunn8262Fundie Fridays were not mormon. They state that at the beginning of this video.

[@raydunn8262]

@geekcollage I know this. That's why I noted so much. If FF were exMormons, Ballard would be wishing he was in an alternate universe. I was trying to stress that, there's good influencers on the Mormon side like FF. And if James needs more info, the exM influencers are great resources. I thank who ever is up there or around us. I just want to give thanks. I wrote this that the six exMormon podcasters are as good as FF in their presentations and comprehension.

[@loveandgutstv]

It’s deposition just to clarify.

[@tdsollog]

Thank you for doing this deep dive on Tim Ballard. He’s a dirtbag and we need more people speaking out!

[@johanna7254]

Love when you have Jordan and McKay on! ❤

[@mynaemismoos]

Love that you included the Sex Robot clip because that is exactly the thing that came to mind the moment that man said “sex robots.” Great minds must think alike.

[@kimberlybega8271]

I've also been getting the vibe that there's going to be a series of films called "The Sound of...." even if they are not otherwise connected besides being based on true stories involving children. I was getting a lot of ads for The Sound of Hope for a while and felt very torn because the plot seems like something I would normally be really interested in, but then I keep going, "Do I want to give these people (Angel Studios) money?" What little I can find from a cursory Google search makes it sound like this one might be a little more accurate, though.

[@Will0wFire]

I think we need to look at the actor, Jim Caviezel from SoF a bit too.

[@Teajay21]

Oh yeah he is a tradcath and absolutely WILD. If you want more info on him the QAnon Anonymous podcast does a great job on him

[@astridquarry1248]

​@Teajay21 whenever I need a good laugh, I listen to that first episode episode 😂. The more recent episode is also good, just more serious in tone.

[@mdeliacloherty]

Was *SO* so confused, thought you said “TradCalf” and I was like, noooo clue where this is going CATHOLIC!!!!

[@Claudia-cr2pm]

It's highly likely that the apasoltle that told Ballard to "write this down" was just tired of listening to his ramblings.

[@hma237]

You certainly wouldn't be excommunicated from the Catholic church because you committed even a terrible crime! YOu would be expected to go to hell after death unless you repented, but look at all the people in prison who have become devout. Sinners are not excommunicated for sinning (no matter how egregious the sin, ie child trafficking), because the church is supposed to help sinners.Excommunication is for something like teaching heresy.

[@playtagwithasemi]

i love mormon jenna & julien (respectfully)

[@elisa-beary]

So glad you four covered this because it’s a major issue, a complicated one & one I think there’s FAR more corruption just under the surface that will come out in time & some will unfortunately be covered up because of Tim’s relationship with the AG- which is gross. I also LOOOOVE the four of you collabing; it’s a match made in… not heaven so a match made on earth we’ll say. 💕

[@spookymicah3131]

The cane thing is so cool / weird / morbid! Thanks for the tidbit

[@missWodkas]

If you are doing JD Vance I will recommend listening to "if books could kill" podcasts episode on his book Actually I will recommend it regardless

[@tigerwoods373]

It's kind of scary to think had this not blown up now, waited maybe a year or so not sure when it started unraveling, he would probably get away with this being a senator. I'm also trusting that he was a shoe in for Romneys seat.

[@emch2vy]

the Brat joke with the 12 apostles actually made me laugh out loud

[@1000huzzahs]

Jim Caviezal is a TradCath I believe, so it would make sense Ballard is considering a move to that...

[@valentinat3250]

Well, I’m an ordinary RC and we don’t want TB either

[@PeachysMom]

@@valentinat3250normal Catholics don’t want “trad” Catholics either.

[@Teajay21]

Yep! He is WILD. Tradcaths are though he'll fit right in with Buttler & Co

[@ChatIsBae]

If Elder Ballard ever gave Tim Ballard the second anointing, this behavior makes sense. Also, speaks to the discernment of the late Elder Ballard. 🧐 I’m Buddhist, Never Mormon, who is fascinated by all this f$uckery!

[@eliagamiz1320]

As a Spanish, when I saw the JODER tattoo I died 😂. It's so silly its cool. In Spain we don't say "joder" as in "sex", it's more used like a "damn", that's why its so stupid to have it tatooed. Imagine pulling someone's pants and seeing "oh shit"

[@kelseykolorful678]

Also alternate fun comment: everybody grab your funeral potatoes, swig, crumbl, and adult treat of your choice it's time for a cross over episode grid dangit.

[@kimberlybega8271]

I didn't know Crumbl Cookies were Mormon. We have them here in Texas, too, but I've never gotten them because I have heard they're not very good.

[@LLC4269]

My dude you really know your Mormon Utah culture lol Don't forget breakfast diet Coke!

[@kelseykolorful678]

@@LLC4269 flipping heck brb

[@Natalie.D]

So gardy marty was Mormon? Tim said that Garty’s father was an “ecclesiastical leader in his church”. And Tim straight up was silent about Mormonism throughout his films, just called himself a Christian to get a wider audience. He knew it was told he couldn’t talk about his specific faith, because it would turn viewers off. Yet 1) Mormons often don’t consider themselves Christian’s and 2) wasn’t the film supposed to convert or bring watchers to Mormonism?

[@lizzyizzywizzy]

this video inspired me to join the patreon - love you guys. been watching for probably about 4 or so years now, and where would i be on my saturday morning after my friday bar shifts without you? much love to the rev and the king 💛

[@valgae]

“We all know the second one in a trilogy sucks” EXCEPT SHREK I know it’s not a trilogy but Shrek 2 is gold

[@angelamaryquitecontrary4609]

'Toy Story 2'?

[@SiRenfield]

The original Star Ware trilogy with Empire Strikes Back?

[@tashalikespieandcats]

Every time yas say "sound of freedom" my brain thinks "sound of music " and have to correct myself 🙃😂

[@kacektv9405]

"So yeah im going undercover so I need some fake Tattoos" Okay some arms and.. "ohh no I mean yes but I need a front facing tramp stamp its very important" I mean are you gonna be pantless at some point cuz.... "very important do that one please i've researched its perfect spelling"

[@aundreafall1925]

Fundie Fridays and nuance ho crossover soon? I need it!!

[@missylee3022]

Omg that picture of him made me an even bigger lezzbo

[@MsJones-yq8pm]

😂😂😂

[@arlenecargill9883]

Cinema is exactly what we call it in the UK! I had no idea that was a reason to make fun of us!!! 😮 lol 😂😅 "Where will we go tonight?" "How about the cinema? I want to see the new film". Totally normal 😊😊

[@maleahlock]

Hi from Australia, we also say cinema

[@angelamaryquitecontrary4609]

And in french. Elle est allée au cinéma, par example.

[@josiejosie666]

Can you make a video about raw beauty Kristi?

[@gabyelizabeth9624]

Second this! I was so sad when I found out she was a fundie. Was watching her since before Jaclyns lipstick gate and stopped watching around covid so I had no idea until now.

[@shuii3315]

I am actually so so thankful that you're making a video on this guy. last year when the sound of freedom came out I watched your video on it, but other content creators i saw talking about it seemed to avoid or just not find the questionable actions done by Tim that you brought up in your video and it left me in such a weird mind space??? I'm talking creators that pride themselves on their research. it was upsetting. having this video, in a weird way, kind of brings closure to me for that situation, so thank you

[@Itcouldbebunnies]

If you're going to do a video about JD Vance, which I suspect you will for...reasons, look into Curtis Yarvin too.( TW for extremely scary stuff.)

[@L8BLUUMR]

Drifting his grift to the Catholics Believers gonna believe. If only he used his energy for actually rescuing kids instead of self-aggrandizement and Seagal-like fantasy role playing.

[@angelamaryquitecontrary4609]

Well, he'll find plenty of abuse to deal with there. Especially in developing countries.

[@jenniekoellergarcia280]

Hello Fundie Friday ! 😊

[@aliciarae8726]

Haven't watched a Fundie Fridays in a while! I missed this channel!

[@turquoisesnowflake4613]

I'm sorry. Your defense for sexual misconduct allagatioms is that you're conversing with human trafficking rings outside government authority or knowledge? Sir one of those things is a settlement, the other is a full on investigation into your organization from every government operation that goes by its acronym.

[@johndunning9]

There was a fund raiser Ballard did, and it was shocking how he cond a woman to donating 30k. The whole thing is one big scam and propaganda campain.

[@caseyw.6550]

Sooooo many old white men. 😵‍💫

[@PeachysMom]

I’m really very tired of them.

[@caseyw.6550]

​@@PeachysMomsaaaaaame

[@Smellanie4121]

@@PeachysMomunless it’s Santa 🎅🏻 or Bernie Sanders 🙌

[@EmbryW]

The fact that James saw a screenshot of a video playlist on CNF's account on someone else's video, and then super soothed and tracked it down, is genuinely impressive

[@dylanintefilin]

shabbat shalom to all the jews out there!!! may you have a peaceful and restful shabbes

[@leandradozier4260]

🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾

[@angelawossname]

Thankyou and Shabbat Shalom.

[@veronicaaristeguieta3072]

Shabbat Shalom, Fundie Fridays is a lovely Shabbat watch after shul.

[@dylanintefilin]

@@veronicaaristeguieta3072 yesss i was watching this while eating challah and sipping on some wine

[@lovesred3998]

I’m so excited to see another King James episode!❤

[@SarahBoyden]

Thanks for the podcast! Besides all that you detailed, I was also bothered that he claimed to be a “CIA Operative”. I emailed LDS Living & asked them to take down their articles w/this title. They did NOT respond to my email but they DID take down many of the articles! Hooray