The Fallout from UFC Lawsuit Will be Insane

[@Jus1408]

Dana is a scumbag . The Reebok deal was one of the worst deals for the fighters.

[@DrMatthewHudson]

Well then the fighters shouldn't have signed a contract. Nobody is forcing them to fight in the UFC. If your job decided to require a dress code you can A) Deal with it or B) Quit. But unless your the boss, you don't get to make those executive decisions

[@Choom89]

​@@DrMatthewHudson many have left leaving the ufc to hype up frauds

[@hunterzolomon1303]

​@DrMatthewHudsclown talk on

[@vectorrondon5852]

@@DrMatthewHudsonare you defending Dana?

[@DeathsInverse]

​@@DrMatthewHudsonsounds like you've never had any issues whatsoever with social media companies censoring people

[@crazypato3752]

The thing about sponsors that's flabbergasting to me is that UFC's excuse for the uniforms is to make fighters look cleaner and not like "Nasca drivers" yet the octagon's canvas is full of sponsors and they even found a way to monetize paying fans to have their names in the canvas

[@thecasual47]

Just for them to put crypto logos all on the shorts 😂

[@grantyoung4090]

Is so the sponsorship money goes to the ufc and not the fighters.

[@PalatschinkenPro]

also the commentary spamming you with adds during a fight on an event you pay 80bucks for in the US is utterly insane.

[@bigtimeadventures3115]

They used to not do any ads other than read offs during ppvs. Now they have ads, and they charge almost $100 per ppv. Insane

[@thompsonracing2294]

Meanwhile gordon Ryan’s shorts with jre logo are iconic and sell tons of units

[@comradeAtokad]

Dana will still call the fighters his "employees" even though they're contractors.

[@Monkey_11]

And they call him “boss”

[@DrMatthewHudson]

Show me one example of Dana calling a fighter an employee. Because I don't think it's ever happened.

[@ypure3859]

very true

[@ProfNDKai]

Facts fighters putting their body and brains on the line in ways Dana never could or would

[@ProfNDKai]

@@DrMatthewHudsonmultiple times when being interviewed he used that analogy to explain why he didn’t want to pay mighty 1million and I have heard them call him boss

[@isa_ibn_Muhammed]

I remember Dana saying numerous times fighters would lose interest in fighting if they get paid in millions, we don’t see that in boxing, soccer, NBA, NFL, F1 etc. what a terrible greedy excuse.

[@kman9884]

He’s basing that statement on the stars who fuck off once they get rich (McGregor, Jones). All it does is highlight how broken the matchmaking system is. The UFC lacks all merit and is a nebulous organization predicated on the whims of Dana’s preference and speculation of what the fans want.

[@Alex-me3yn]

we actually do see it in boxing, the logic is 100% true, its just an incredibly antisocial way to view a business, and the people who work for it, unfortunately he is not the only one who does this in the world, far from it, but it was very surprising that he was so brazen and open about that as a philosophy

[@sluggak1363]

​@Alex-me3yn then when they pull.out of a fight if not medical fine them millions

[@kYnTso]

We do see that in boxing. If you got no pull u aint makin money, simple as that, ask the WNBA or female soccer stars. The rest cant really be compared since u cant really fight every week or so. We can see it occasionally with brazilian soccer players who usually come from poverty, get big money and start to fade, picking up injuries etc.

[@theviewer9363]

You definetly see that in the nba

[@Persoxa]

UFC in its Don King era

[@velder22]

Yep great analogy

[@BlaineLawrence-yl2fl]

You mean MMA but yeah

[@TheGuillotineKing]

It's business and you would be a fool to give up 50% unless you had to

[@right8630]

Horrible analogy don king stole Dana white isn’t stealing anything they signed the contract.

[@DerpRulesAll]

​@@right8630Right, they didn't sign a contract with Don King, they just shook on it. 😂

[@TheWatcher60401]

Dana calling someone else a piece of 💩 is rich.

[@ozsheila55]

Didn't he get filmed striking his wife?

[@P8nplays]

@@ozsheila55he did then said it was no one’s business when black men get targeted by the judicial system like Johnathan majors who didn’t have a blatant abusive action on national television

[@AlexDrewsumin]

Lol

[@kylekampa6721]

The UFC isn’t even legitimate imo anymore. It’s a popularity contest for Dana’s golden children.

[@Choom89]

100% WWE era

[@__________o____________]

@@Choom89 ufc partnered with wwe so not surprised it's falling off

[@Synthwave89]

@@__________o____________ The problem has been here way before the wwe partnership. It's just so bad now you can count on your hands the fights that matter to fight fans rather than White's economic agenda.

[@trebrown8144]

Its always been like that you just noticed😂

[@blacklotus654]

yep, Jon Jones/Conor McGregor (when he was relevant) just to name a few

[@SuperSMOKEKUSH420]

Rebook did Rampage dirty

[@kpdiallo1111]

How?

[@stealthmaster1045]

@@kpdiallo1111they had a deal with him but ufc didnt allow it so they cut rampage out of the deal and made a deal with the ufc instead

[@vectorrondon5852]

⁠@@stealthmaster1045did Rampage do anything about it?

[@mattyb1607]

He left the UFC and went to Bellator

[@acollectionofcellsblk]

He pays more people at the casino randomly then he’ll pay any UFC fighter

[@OhKindSir]

Are you Dana's accountant or something? You don't know shit about what he pays to anybody.

[@amanuelalelegn]

@@OhKindSir Dana get off your burner account

[@kgold01]

no shit, HE doesnt pay the fights, UFC does.. honestly what business is it of anyones, where he spends his own money.. I dont even like dana but this argument is just bloody stupid.

[@lazerrhino]

@@OhKindSir Stop glazing dana and go play soldier somewhere else

[@texashillcountryadv9197]

The lies me little liberals be the males is hilarious. Yes Trump will appoint conservative judges no conservative judges in 2024 are not automatically pro corporate. That’s how we just won. The whole election was by being pro populist not pro corporate that’s the George Bush Dick Chaney, Republican Party of war monsters that we distain and should I mention those are the people that back to Kamala Harrisso you should be thankful that Trump got elected because now these fighters actually do have a shot of being paid fair when has a Democrat ever done anything fair? I mean think about it

[@75echo]

Remember when Francais Ngganou first brought up this issue the public eye and everybody was calling him greedy.Well, I'm happy it is finally here. Dana is literally enriching himself off the flesh and blood of these boys.

[@MikeUIibarri]

Meanwhile, Dana is buying $250,000 swords and $100,000 sneaker collections.

[@californiarollwithramensea8220]

Don't forget buying cars for the Nelk boys

[@dillonoickle5841]

@@californiarollwithramensea8220 yeah just giving hundreds of thousands to influencers the fans dont like as a whole.

[@TODD273]

Dana doesn't own ufc

[@inlandiggy]

Paying gambling debts for his friends

[@miltongonzalez6304]

Idgaf! He don't deserve the money he's earning. Give that shit to the fighters.

[@jacopocontin]

I understand how Dana White thinks and is mostly concerned with the health of his business, but he's 100% wrong with this one and if he doesn't proactively change things it will bite his ass. Letting fighters have their own sponsors and putting more transparency over payments and better redistribution over PPV numbers will benefit all fighters, which in turn will benefit all of the UFC. You can't bully every fighter into financial submission, the fighters make the UFC what it is.

[@DontMessWithCaesar]

He's not worried about the "health" of the business. Their business is worth billions. They're pinching every penny to fill his and the investors' pockets. Won't even give comp tickets to the fighters killing themselves to make him the billions.

[@ianengelbrecht4764]

@@DontMessWithCaesaryeah I met song kenan outside ufc Perth, the poor guy couldn’t even get a ticket to get back in after his fight. He was on the prelim card.. and even worse we met him again later, wandering the streets alone after the event, completely lost. Before then I didn’t even know ufc didn’t provide fighters comp tickets, it completely shocked me that such a big company would do that.

[@QwertAsdfg-ih1ow]

Even now fighters only want to fight once a year, with more money they will fight even less.

[@bcd398]

That's just it. If he was more transparent about fighter pay and benefits, he would expose how badly he's taking advantage over the fighters and it would be even more apparent how necessary this lawsuit is.

[@sonny_jins]

Bite his ass how? Hes already made enough money he can go do anything else and keep making bank

[@Yoshwayy]

Calling them “independent contractors”, is the same shit Vince McMahon pulled in the WWE

[@utilid4lifefigureitout602]

And a major consequence of Reagan enacting Neolibral capitalism, which isn't libral or indicative of left leaning policies at all whatsoever. The number of construction workers being classified as contractors illegally in Florida and Louisiana is disturbing and a direct result of conservative governance. Many of these people vote conservative, not understanding they're essentially allowing their own pockets to be picked... as long as they have some group to denegrate, fear, hate or laugh at, who in reality don't impact their material lives in any way, they're content to remain ignorant to the real people destroying their chance at a reasonable living let alone the American Dream.

[@justinmassey2129]

Where do you think he learned that

[@justinmassey2129]

​@@utilid4lifefigureitout602I'm a construction worker and I am an independent contractor and I love it that way that means I can go out and work and make as much money as I want to I don't have to conform to unions and I can bid as many jobs as I want and work as much as I want and don't get me wrong I get where you're going but the fact of the matter is a construction worker makes on average 100,000 to 150,000 a year and if you own your own business you're probably going to make twice that keep in mind you have to pay a lot more in workman's comp and liability insurance and pay for insurance on all your tools trailers etc however it is pitiful that we make more money than some of these fighters who literally didn't go to college and are making these people millions if not billions and it's only their fault for not boycotting most of the UFC fights and it's only a matter of time until some promoter starts putting on better fights and kills it on the pay-per-views and eventually signs a deal with say Fox sports South to rival ESPN UFC

[@dra-j9n2015]

That’s so stupid lol. A fighter is a business bc he has people behind him that he is paying. It’s 2 business in a contract together. Yall act like it’s a kid working at a local pizza place 😂😂😂

[@utilid4lifefigureitout602]

@dra-j9n2015 Wow, are you like the equivalent of a Tesla stock promoter who pumps out propaganda for Elon but instead... a propagandist for Dana White and the UFC? Do you not understand the history of the rich making money on other people's actual genius and actual talents(in this context leaving the people who make the sport possible to try to fend for the healthcare that treats the injuries suffered, many life long and debilitating to the point of life altering brain damage, while using their talents to make a rich megalomaniac obscenely wealthy)?

[@SuperFirstSerg]

Harry Kane gets to play in official games with his sponsor Skechers's shoes while playing for FC Bayern whose official sponsor is Adidas. The rebook deal with Dana White is ridiculous.😮😮

[@andyboy624]

1000% and it made the athlete look bland. Back in 2011 I was to get an Alistair overeem shirt by Hayabusa for 60$. He received a cut of that surely

[@Jackman1st]

SHIT comparison, he still wears the adidas Bayern football shirt and shorts, the UFC has their own branded shorts. Harry Kane can’t wear red Nike shorts when he plays for Bayern.

[@californiarollwithramensea8220]

​@Jackman1st If UFC fighters are independent they should be allowed to have their own sponsors.

[@SuperFirstSerg]

@@Jackman1st that's what I'm saying . dana white said that ufc fighters can wear their sponsors outside of ufc's events but no company will ever happy to sponsor an athlete if they can't promote them in the main stage.

[@SuperFirstSerg]

@@Jackman1st however,there are some examples of UFC fighters who has sponsors besides rebook, such as Conor McGregor, Israel Adesanya, Khabib Nurmagomedov, Sean O'Malley , and Francis Ngannou. most of them are really famous.

[@jamesharris2156]

Why can’t ufc go back to fighters having their own sponsors on their shorts , that alone was a massive loss !

[@DrMatthewHudson]

Think about it for 10 seconds and you can probably figure out exactly why

[@andrewsoupene1028]

Control and monopolize

[@P8nplays]

Dana wants all The money so he can bear his wife in piece and not get charged by the state.

[@Idk98268]

@@DrMatthewHudsonmoney hungry Dana?

[@DrMatthewHudson]

@@P8nplays what does bear his wife mean

[@MYNAMECHEF_FilthyFrank]

All sports have been ruined by rampant greediness and crooking betting

[@CrispyBarOfSoap]

Dana bets more in one night in casinos than some of the fighters in his roster make in a year, 2 years, let that sink in.

[@mizterb5077]

If they are independent contractors start a fighters UNION

[@Brandnewshoes]

This!

[@kman9884]

Some fighters try, but a lot of ranked guys are selfish and don’t want to unionize because it would impact their earnings. They’re stuck in the “if you’re entertaining you’ll make money” mentality; not considering that their fellow athletes are getting fucked over

[@armyofninjas9055]

Plus if you're caught trying to form a union (anywhere not just UFC) they get rid of you IMMEDIATELY.

[@DrMatthewHudson]

​@@kman9884 exactly, because... Get this.... Fighters get paid what they are worth

[@hunterzolomon1303]

​@@DrMatthewHudsonno they are not. Ufc is essentially a monopoly. Also why does the ufc prevemt their fighters from having their own sponsors. Mr they are paid what they are worth but are barred from making more money. 😂😂😂. Clown talk.

[@devonsinclair6994]

The UFC will fail cause of greed. MMA will survive.

[@QwertAsdfg-ih1ow]

If UFC fall, MMA wil fall also....

[@devonsinclair6994]

​@@QwertAsdfg-ih1owno it will not. The Saudis will probably do an mma organasation with 10 times the money the UFC currently has. Even if not Saudis, someone will step up.

[@Y_Yx_x]

i’m not mad about this, i train mma for fun/self defence which means if ufc and mma drop, then i will be better than more people. because less people will train mma too

[@QwertAsdfg-ih1ow]

@devonsinclair6994 Maybe Saudis.... But even then, UFC is 99% of MMA, thats a fact.

[@kman9884]

@@QwertAsdfg-ih1owONE and PFL are in the wings with better pay structures and championship structure. Sorry Dana bot

[@jordanbryant5260]

The ufc bonus has been 50k for 20 years!!! They act like inflation hasn’t effected their employees

[@joeturner7453]

was 300k bonuses for the original max justin event #jusayin Dana turning into a green eyed gambling addict! pay the fighters from any contractual deal so many have been burned and when they turn boom bye bye #next sad to see

[@mrmidnight32]

Dana would lose $60k in a blink to the MGM with a smile. But gets beyond pissed off to pay his fighters a real athletes wage

[@gidthaillest]

Yea the ufc is honestly criminal when it comes to fighter pay/ how they treat retired fighters n such

[@DrMatthewHudson]

How is it criminal? What criminal law are they breaking. If you offer me $1000 to build you a shed and I agree and sign a contract, what if I later think my I did such a good job that I deserve $2500. And you have a job that pays an annual salary of a lot more do you should pay me more. Are you going to pay me an additional $1500? Obviously not because we had an agreement and a legal binding contract verifying that agreement. I should have asked you to pay me more before I signed the contract. And your salary and anything else is irrelevant ... Because it's not in the contract.

[@gonzalogutierrez510]

​@@DrMatthewHudsonnever crossed the idea of an hyperbole? Allow me to present you two Ufc might not be doing criminal activities but definitely predatory, which in the court of public could be seen as criminal

[@kgold01]

@@gonzalogutierrez510 or ask the fighters like masvidal who said no schooling, no other options, would have been dead broke without ufc.. now look.. theres always 2 sides to a story. What you call "predatory" others call a chance.

[@gonzalogutierrez510]

@@kgold01 it's not the same story for everyone thats for sure, but you should ask which side ufc tends to do it's business, as a opportunity beacon or as a fighter grinder? Nnganou story would summarize quite nicely dana's ufc for me

[@gidthaillest]

@@DrMatthewHudson they just answered it for me

[@ScamLikely9327]

It’s crazy that only the UFC and Skateboarding pay their athletes as independent contractors. Two sports where CTE is common and they’re just kinda left to fend for themselves. But a skater can get sponsorships for everything and they usually pivot into making their own skate adjacent company.

[@BigWhiteNite]

The problem is a relatively active fighter will fight maybe once a year. So imagine a baseball, football, or hockey player only playing one game a year. Shit baseball has like 160 games a year? I think ufc fighter should be paid not don’t get me wrong but it’s hard to compare fighters to other athletes from other sports.

[@pawnzrtasty]

UFC fighters can get sponsorships. They just can’t show them in the ring.

[@danielnicholson25]

@@BigWhiteNitetrue. IMO what fighters need is to become more independent. Get a big name retired fighter to start a tournament, backyard mma fights on KZbin, maybe something outside the box like a live stream 5v5 mma tournament with known names… idk. The fighters need to make their own lanes like other professions have to unfortunately do

[@BigWhiteNite]

@@danielnicholson25 yea maybe. Fighting is just one of those sports it seems that the few guys on top get all the coins. I do think it’s greedy as fuck that the ufc doesn’t let there guys do their own sponsorships tho

[@spikeboy101]

Low tier fighters need a real job along with fighting, mid-high tier fighters need to get popular and build their brand. They need to anyways cuz they can't fight forever. Build your brand and make money from that, don't rely on fighter pay imo

[@MagnusGalactusOG]

Damn.... I make more than 45% of UFC fighters!? I'm glad i chose to pursue a career in IT over MMA decades ago.

[@DrMatthewHudson]

Was that actually a choice you made?

[@unknownname6519]

​@@DrMatthewHudsonnah the flying spaghetti monster forces him

[@devenp.5508]

Sounds boring

[@__________o____________]

yeah I'm thinking of fighting in mma but work in IT as well. Idk if I wanna become a ufc bum for slave pay

[@Toecutter875]

I was going to join the avengers but I chosse to work in asda instead 🙃

[@diesel_tech_three4332]

Being a diesel mechanic and making more than UFC stars is crazy...wtf

[@ogskullomania3119]

Imagine that a super right wing dude doesn’t wanna pay his employees He fires Francis for trying to start a union to be honest

[@Synthwave89]

The UFC is a microcosm of what's happening in the United States as a whole.

[@martinvera4567]

Get out of here you libs. Greed is universal. Cuban leaders live in luxury, while their people aren’t even allowed to use fishing rods to feed their starving children. That’s Cuba is as socialist as you can get and all the Cubans that risk their lives to escape come to America vote for the right. That tells you all you need to know

[@HoTTT_cock_Rooster_Sauce]

Union would be a good idea

[@kgold01]

No other top ranked fighters wanted any part to do with a union as they would end up making less.. and he didnt fire francis.. francis declined an 8M + PPV to fight jones. PPV earnings from UFC would be way higher than PFL so technically he would have made 10-12M estimated from 1 fight.. PFL offered 8mil per fight for 2 fights.. he also got a signing bonus so walked away with about 10M from the pfl offer's first championship match. His pfl earnings will be about the same across the 2 fights as he would have made from UFC, with the UFC having much higher potential moving forwards.

[@HoTTT_cock_Rooster_Sauce]

@kgold01 well, what would the majority of fighters settle for? And couldn't there be bonuses and incentives added in addition? Just seems to be a theme that ufc fighters aren't pleased with their current compensation

[@scottyknowsurf]

Losing major interest in the ufc.

[@troothshoots7877]

Oh well. Another young buck will come and take your spot. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out

[@ScrumboTheUnlcean]

@@troothshoots7877 hi im taking that guys spot

[@MarcusAurelius12]

Did you just see what they did to weidman????? They won't pay him

[@tonymontana9995]

Why? Because Jones is King 👑

[@MarcusAurelius12]

@@tonymontana9995 Why is the king ducking Tom?

[@alcondragon]

The Fighters are independent contractors, what they need to do is form an independent Fighters Union. All fighters join, and boycott the UFC. Now, create a contract that is a 50/50 fighters agreement. Fighters get 50 percent of the gross take of each event involved in. Its not rocket science. But take balls to push it through.

[@Synthwave89]

Yup, in an ideal world that would be a good starting point. But the prisoner's dilemma will make sure that never happens, literally look at what happened to Francis. Everyone is either too afraid of getting in White's bad side or too selfish to care.

[@HoTTT_cock_Rooster_Sauce]

Ya thats a good idea

[@dmiguy5897]

Rich people being rich people. Fuck everyone who put in work! Fuck everyone else! ME ME ME

[@kgold01]

Hes an employee, why should he give a fuck about what other employees are paid?

[@Synthwave89]

@@kgold01 Because he has empathy and a moral compass? LOL, I couldn't even say that with a straight face 😂😂

[@kgold01]

@@Synthwave89 So you expect him to give away his money.. why not say the same to any athlete in the world or actor / actress.. its a dumb take, there a difference between saying you think UFC should pay more and Dana should pay more.. think about it

[@Idk98268]

@@kgold01the difference is those athletes aren’t exploiting and stepping over people, they earn what they get paid, Dana white actively takes it from people who deserve it more

[@edwardzuniga7598]

I’ve legitimately stopped watching UFC events because of all of this. I know they are all consenting adults competing in a sport that they adore, but as a fan/spectator, it is absolutely disgusting and truly unfair that the athletes under the UFC banner aren’t not compensated for their talents and hard work. Especially when all of the information is out there. I really wish that more people would start giving their attention to other organizations to really send the message. Great video, sir.

[@kgold01]

Why watch any fighting promotion then? Because they all pay lower tier fighters shit.

[@__________o____________]

@@kgold01 PFL pays 50% if it becomes big it'll get more talent. Ufc contracts don't allow fighters to switch to other promotions easily so that's an issue

[@OhKindSir]

UFC offers the highest pay to fighters. That is why it is the more popular organization. Everyone of those fighters have the ability to focus on any other career to make money. It is the fault of the fighters to be in the position they are in.

[@DerpRulesAll]

I stopped watching because there's too many obscure fighters, with unpronounceable names, and backgrounds that I know nothing about.

[@comic_food_guy]

Dana is the reason Jake Paul thrives.

[@Druvodagreat]

That's very well said

[@aryudsoh]

I wish they wouldn't settle. Settling means no change and change is needed. The fighters will continue to get screwed.

[@__________o____________]

IF they settle then i'll never feel bad if they become homeless

[@Idk98268]

We still have a second lawsuit going on which can make change

[@marckenny3131]

The level of greed by the UFC, it's a racket

[@IndigoAquarius1980]

owned by 🔯🔯🔯

[@mrflynn-v2x]

@@IndigoAquarius1980 Owned by Putin, if you were to be honest. Prove me wrong.

[@KayLeb-dj4mz]

Can you guess who owns it? Here's a clue, the same peeps that own most of the porn sites.. And the banks.. And Hollywood..

[@spidermanfan447]

the ufc is only getting bigger, but the events, for the most part are only getting worse, fighter pay is surely apart of that. the fighters must be getting majorly compenstated through sponsers, because theres no way these people could fight 1, sometimes twice a year if they truly were getting paid this low. its still disgusting how low their actual "boss" pays, and the fact their medical bills arent covered is evil.

[@LastbutNotFirst]

some fighters seem to have secret deals not to hurt each other too badly.. you can see it in fights where both fighters kind of take it easy on each other.. because they know theyre not getting paid shit. they do it when they know they wont get cut, and have a bit of leeway to get away with a bad fight.

[@Eggzy-b7f]

Nothing wrong with the events, U casual Bandwagon strokers are stuck in a bubble😢😂

[@LastbutNotFirst]

@@Eggzy-b7f .. the sphere in las vegas was a total huge major let down. i think youre the one stuck in a bubble.

[@spidermanfan447]

@@Eggzy-b7f we get it mate you chug to jones and get off to calling other people casuals. youre so special

[@22Chad_Reed22]

the ufc is a joke.

[@Silentmovement2023]

😂😂😂😂

[@regularstan6212]

Ur mom

[@FlyingSquirrelMMA]

Gayest comment award 🏆

[@sluggak1363]

And I can tell yall teenagers going with what's popular vs what's right same reason yall will suffer lack of women

[@AverageMojaveMailman]

*Dana White

[@nerfroop8307]

I’ve heard about this for awhile now. Fighters that make 50k for high profile fight is not much. They are also locked in to the contracts and cannot fight elsewhere. Seems it’s best to make a name in UFC and get out and make some real money before your body quits

[@Capt_Erratik]

I have heard countless times on numerous outlets the exact quote, "Dana doesn't pay his fighters". And now? His good friend will make it go away.

[@CaitlinMaguire-g6g]

I used to sit by the cage in the Liddell era for 150-450. Now it’s 10-30k.

[@DerpRulesAll]

It was too much to pay back then, so now it's just atrocious.

[@soupking5392]

The fact joe rogan doesnt talk about it more enrages me

[@YaH_Gives_Wisdom]

He's under Dana's thumb, too. Money cobtrols everything & everybody.

[@soupking5392]

@ Factual

[@DerpRulesAll]

He'll find himself out of a ringside commentator's job.

[@Librona]

Joe only cares about Joe.

[@soupking5392]

@ As if he needs the income 😂

[@mikeOxPhat]

Randy cortoure said that if a fighter wants to write a book, they have to ask Dana White first. He literally tries to own a fighter's thoughts. How is that ethical?

[@DrMatthewHudson]

It's ethical because the fighters signed a contract agreeing to a variety of things. Don't like those things? Don't sign the contract? Don't sign a contract to cut someone's grass and then bitch that you are allergic to grass and it's unethical for you to cut grass. That's on you

[@gh0rochi363]

​@@DrMatthewHudsonhe didn't say how is it legal. He said how is it ethical.

[@mikeOxPhat]

@@gh0rochi363 these Dana White d riders are sumn else

[@1wa83n]

​@@DrMatthewHudsonit's not ethical when they have a monopoly over the market it becomes easier to give bad contracts because you know of The Fighters and athletes are disadvantaged and desperate this is a real thing in law and you can cry and complain trying to defend Dana White all you want but the Fighters will win eventually it happened in boxing and every other sport and now it's going to work for the MMA guys let's go hooray

[@nicknauj124]

Nothing involving legalities is ethical. It’s all horse shit.

[@evankoogler7176]

Great video. I had no idea that the Le and Johnson cases were split, which is great news. I was pretty upset when hearing about the settlement news at first

[@wyattrussell7496]

He was giving more money to the Nelk brothers for their birthday then Nate Diaz to fight main events

[@HoTTT_cock_Rooster_Sauce]

Dayum thats a fact? Thats wild

[@CarlosSilva-sc4iu]

UFC Ring girls make more than the fighters that’s sad. These fighters only getting %15 is crazy.

[@danielclare151]

I am a crazy UFC fan and an even bigger fan of Dana White - BUT BUT BUT.. I did not know that the contracted fighters as a whole only get 18 percent of the UFC take per year. That is absolutely a cross misjustice of fair pay for skilled persons. Over 1.5 billion yearly and the fighters collectively only get 270 million. Well this will change now.

[@douglasquaid7885]

Ufc quality has been going downhill for years. It lost its sizzle

[@Blacksheepis500]

All these clips of Dana White doubling down on his arrogance will be so sweet to watch when the UFC goes under

[@QwertAsdfg-ih1ow]

MMA will go under also..

[@miltongonzalez6304]

Mma existed before the UFC and will exist after.

[@QwertAsdfg-ih1ow]

@miltongonzalez6304 Before Dana and UFC, nobody gived a fck about MMA

[@miltongonzalez6304]

@@QwertAsdfg-ih1ow wrong, mma was picking up steam in Japan and was going to get popular eventually. Every sport was unpopular once upon a time, Dana isn't the end all be all. Hell, his organization wasn't even the first popular one in the US, that was strikeforce.

[@grey21hunter20]

@@QwertAsdfg-ih1ow If the UFC goes under the fighters that are under a UFC contract wont just vanish my guy, no one watches for Dana we watch for the fighters

[@robertstanford1778]

Rhe fact the UFC doesnt help their fighters out in financial planning and taxation is criminal.

[@er1q1]

i think defenders of the current way the ufc does things don't truly understand just how much money they make. They took a ppv business so people are used to spending 80$ a event, and made enough cards so they can sell tv rights to espn, and then digital content footprint and advertising revenue on impressions of their fighters likenesses, signed merch, then the games, and deals wth various countries and locations and then the gate money too and so on and so on. Then international syndication deals abroad as well. They are making shedloads of money and the amount they pay the fighters is a thimble compared to that.

[@memorydrain7806]

Kind of tired of DW and his agenda driven bullshit. Been losing interest in watching UFC shows the last four or five years anyway because of it. There are others to watch.

[@eliporter3980]

I was a big fan of the UFC, but around the time the Reebok deal came, I started losing interest. Hopefully these suits will result in better conditions for fighters.

[@DrMatthewHudson]

That suits have no chance of winning. UFC might settle some just to not deal with it, but none will win in court

[@StevenBriggs]

So UFC considers them to be independent contractors, but then blacklists them if they go fight anywhere else? Make that make sense.

[@DDG-Downfall]

Randy said it years ago.

[@sparingpickle4918]

Bro compares ufc pay to nhl as he talks about Pattie’s TWO fights per year while a NHL player has to training camp, off season, 82 games, and maybe playoffs. That was such a stupid point bro.

[@Deyas786]

UFC are modern day gladiators putting life on the line twice a year is worth more than what they’re paid for sure. Not to discount nhl players hard work but ufc is definitely more punsihing

[@Idk98268]

Fighters train and practice all year round, you’re acting like they just pop in a fight twice a year, next time you try to call something a stupid point, DONT SAY SOMETHING STUPID

[@user-di5sj6lt8g]

Wow! I knew it was bad but damn! This is insanity. Makes me want to walk away from watching ufc anymore. If they’re contractors why can they get their own sponsors???? Total bs.

[@meatslide]

The NFL practice squad players make more than most UFC fighters

[@R4RB]

This is why I cannot wait for Dana to be out of the UFC, I have not liked the guy for years

[@DrMatthewHudson]

What makes you think that is going to happen

[@kgold01]

So you want someone fired, who is an employee because the company he works for makes decisions you dont like.. pretty pathetic take?

[@mattwhisnant5926]

Wow, I didn’t know this about the UFC. It tracks, though. Dana had a hard road in the beginning and the UFC came close to folding. He deserves credit for making it what it is. But I have noticed that, among people who went through a hard time and then became successful, they tend to have a victim-hero mentality. They feel like they suffered and persevered in a way that no one understands. So they want to see other people suffer to gain success in their business, too. To some degree, that’s a good attitude. Asking for commitment and accountability. But it can also lead to narcissism. And sociopathic lack of empathy, lack of respect for the humanity of others. Based on this video, it sounds like Dana is in this narcissistic/sociopathic loss of respect for humanity stage. Suffering/oereevering/then gaining success is a massive psychological validation. It feels almost spiritual, like God put you through fire and then brought you through the fire, and rewarded you richly for your skill and perseverance. So you sort of feel chosen by God. It takes a very strong person to NOT become narcissistic after that. I’m not sure Dana is such a strong person.

[@Reysekai]

Once they ushered in that reebok deal it was curtains

[@DrMatthewHudson]

Define curtains? Because the UFC is doing incredibly well by most, if not all, metrics

[@twowords.1041]

Yep. Beef curtains

[@Reysekai]

@@DrMatthewHudson During the reebook deal fighters lost out on their sponsorship deals, this drasticly impacted their income. UFC has yet to increase fighter pay let alone offer them a pension, UFC fighters arent offered any health insurance. The list goes on. As a company the UFC is doing great but they can afford to pay their fighters waaaay more. I've been watching this since 2009, yes the production and revenue has increased but fighters still go through the same bs. Also finally I will mention this - when fighters yet paid a fat chunk goes on taxes, their gym membership, coaching fees and if they have an agent also. Long story short it's all fucked, one really bad injury and you're toast if you have little to no leverage

[@kgold01]

@@Reysekai Yet fighters keep lining up for the chance? Its a gamble its not a 9-5. Its like a commission only job where you dont get paid shit unless you perform

[@SD_Says]

The way I see it, these comment sections are full of business people who can do it better!!! You also have a lineup of fighters who would just drop everything to sign with a new promotion company that pays better. Why aren't none of these savvy business people in the comments starting their own promotion businesses?

[@stuffnuns]

“you don’t like how I pay my fighters? Too ****in’ bad.” I don’t begrudge you making money from a fight organization at all, Mr. White. But, remember, without your labor, aka your fighters - all you got is an empty cage, empty seats, and no PPV $$. You might think about spreading that wealth around. It keeps away the pitchforks and torches. The contract’s “no class action” clause is simply slime. These fighters may have to form a union.

[@nerdg2]

Dude, amazing content right here! Subbed

[@cantdriveslo]

Definitely a lopsided pay structure, considering they risk their health throughout their career

[@hellfire5108]

Dana White is actually scamming the fighters. Don't think he is a good guy.

[@virgil_kane]

I'm an old man . I'm calling you out Dana !

[@kerrywikstrom1698]

Too be fair to Dana, cocaine cost a lot.

[@runkillorun2]

White's yearly salary is $20 million. Did he get a bonus for the impromptu Power Slap match in Cancun with his wife?

[@tariqaslam1853]

I would never pay to watch ufc from its start, cause Dana is a scrooge

[@mislavsprajc669]

UFC went from MMA to class warfare

[@zvuho]

great video updating on the state of things, no beat around, no mudding the water. It is what it is... and its insane. They literaly sell fighters blood without giving them part. Those costly canvas pieces are worth more the more bloodied they are. Insane.

[@JeremyAndersonBoise]

I, for one, am very supportive of most anti-trust cases, including this one. It is past time for this.

[@RRobbie1]

great video, really enjoyed as someone who is just getting into ufc and doesnt really know too much

[@armyofninjas9055]

Leave the scene now. It's exploitative trash. And the fights are handpicked.

[@miketars3208]

LIKE NASCAR IT SEEMS THAT THE UFC WILL BE LEARNING THAT THEY DON'T MAKE ALL THE RULES !!!!!!!!!

[@Jontheinternet]

Dana has always exploited fighters and women. Even his mom says he's a horrible person.

[@bryanshore2257]

Honestly any fighter that has signed with the ufc in the past ten years is fucking dumb. I’ve said it since the Reebok deal. The ufc says they want the best fighters. Well guess what the cost of the best fighters is way higher than the cost of Joe shmo because the best fighters have to pay the best coaches and guys more than joe shmo because their cost of living is much higher. Let’s hope the judges aren’t bought by the ufc.

[@Jukeboxster]

Not to make this political, and I don't think Trump is a boogeyman, but think it's ironic how UFC is mostly pro-Trump yet these fighters would be most hurt by legislation he would enact and pro-corporation judges he would appoint. They literally voted against their own self-interests. I 100% get why Dana likes him, the fighters not so much.

[@Beastking1107]

Good job man who knows what Dana relies on Jones for - when it comes to this case, perhaps - that he has been glazing him hard lately

[@smidget2323]

I knew it was bad but I didn't know it was this bad

[@alanmacdonald1457]

all the same issues the pro wrestling industry has they are copying the playbook exactly and its very sad

[@Choom89]

WWE era baby, MMA fans think they know more than Dana "power slap" White? Hah, it's sports entertainment now!

[@AlexanderMartinez-MZ]

Awesome video brother

[@cl219]

Ehh I’m not big into paying the fighters huge money. Using other sports which are grossly overpaid as the reason they should be overpaid isn’t smart to me. Half the fighters came from literally nothing, even a $10,000 fight is life changing to a Brazilian or Francis Ngannou. UFC has always been a place where you are on your own, you can build your legacy/brand however you want. GSP walked away a millionaire before Connor McGregor existed, Chuck liddel was in movies, some guys made brands/gyms, etc. I don’t think it’s the UFC’s job to make sure you get paid just because you have some skills. There are plenty of people who are right on your tail who didn’t make it to the UFC because they are busy working instead of fighting while broke and hoping to make it like a few people who feel like they need more money to fight

[@TJ-ni8zt]

It's the system until we figure out how to beat the system. The system will always keep us under the ropes because if they paid us a decent amount of money, then no one would do that job. You would start your own business.. So they have to underpay you to keep you working for them

[@mv0921_]

Great vid no one talks about this

[@fosyay1780]

Lol wrong

[@TimPool-b8z]

I think the only thing worse than Dana and the UFC is the MMA media!

[@area51r]

Just look at who OWNS the UFC..............

[@DrMatthewHudson]

Endeavor group. How is that relevant

[@Choom89]

​@@DrMatthewHudson Disney

[@IndigoAquarius1980]

jews

[@Ralts1001]

Dropping a little prediction that trump kills this lawsuit next year.

[@ScarlettMaine-y3r]

I love this so much, I’m an atheist but if there is a god then may he pull this case through. I want fighters to have fair pay.

[@alexanderu8217]

They aren’t employees . They don’t have to be full time fighters . It’s a sport. 😂

[@californiarollwithramensea8220]

Fuck the case, if we want the UFC to change then stop watching until they do.

[@ScarlettMaine-y3r]

@@californiarollwithramensea8220 no one will comply

[@ScarlettMaine-y3r]

@@alexanderu8217 try having a job with ludicrous taxes and brain damage. Harder than you would think.

[@vee8599]

It sucks cause there’s enough money to go around for the fighters and Dana

[@timurjack8773]

The problem is the contracts not ufc, ufc fighters getting paid more than kickboxers or wrestlers but we also see how ufc failed about Ngannou because he was out of his contract could do whatever he wanted, if fighters can't be taken hostage by any contract for long and if US government rules that ufc can't make a contract longer than 6 months the problem would be solved.

[@joebowl8315]

Except your solution makes 0 logical sense, just like this video, made from the premise of someone with 0 information of how a business is run

[@kman9884]

@@joebowl8315Here’s how a business is run: you provide a service or product to the public, they pay you. You pay your employees well. The UFC isn’t doing the second part well.

[@armyofninjas9055]

They're not going to change contract law for the UFC lol.

[@earthgirdler23]

​@@kman9884 they're not employees though, they're "independent contractors". Except that they are independent contractors who, once under contract, can only work for the UFC. Which does sound a lot like employment to me...

[@I_Of_Providence]

@@kman9884 that's not how a business works. you don't pay your employees well, you pay them what they'll agree to. which every single UFC fighter agreed to. this is how ALL business works, if you don't work for yourself you're not getting paid your worth, you're getting paid what you agreed to.

[@darrenbeavers8099]

Dana puts it all on the Blackjack table

[@KimKim-hm5xr]

This is so disgusting!!

[@sleepydeadheaddude]

Dana doesn't give a crap about people he only cares about money. Stop giving him money. How times have you been disappointed when buying a ufc package or event. It's been a joke for about 20 years.

[@albert0495]

No wonder why Dana got so close to Trump, now he will get some help from the governement

[@irvinreyes222]

You know that once Trump goes into office this lawsuit and settlement will get thrown out

[@mkultrafan1565]

I absolutely hate that the plaintiffs settled but at the same time I get it.

[@earthgirdler23]

What's the saying? A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. It's sad I agree.

[@toby099]

Dana is a sociopath

[@oneandonly6598]

Just look at who owns UFC and it’s very easy to understand why they’re so stingy. Hint ✡️

[@andyavila9162]

He'll go running to daddy Trump to help him when shit hits the fan. Trumps got the supreme Court in his pocket.

[@axelnilsson2031]

Good. Concise. Clear. Much better than the AVG MMA content from a channel this size.

[@carson21211]

Amen. Great video. The fighters deserve this, and it's really nice to see Anderson get the backpay he deserves. He was the best fighter of his generation (also GSP and Fedor)

[@paulmurray362]

Middle man A like Uber just surcharging no difference with UFC

[@Aceace1991]

If you’re going to do a comparison with the nfl/nba/mlb pay you need to do a better job at the comparisons - those major leagues did not start out getting paid at what they’re getting paid as of current - the UFC is still establishing itself - it was created in 1993, but in reality it didn’t start actually grow until Dana white and the brothers took over it in 2001 - it was on route to being a dying organization until they took it over. So - 23 years of growth(31 years total). It’s evident that the ufc is re investing a lot of the profit into the business from the PI’s that have been built, the production level increasing and so on - I 100% believe the fighters should be paid more, but you can’t really use sports that are on live television that have multiple games in a week and have been established for half a century - over a century to a fighters pay that the fighters only fight on average 2 - 3 times a year with the organization being around for 23 years. Before you bring up “they’re training year round” - so do the major organizations aswell. The ufc is trying to become a mainstream organization that’ll be on live television but they still have a lot of ground work and reinvesting to do before that comes into fruition. To the People complaining about Dana white paying himself to much - if it wasn’t for him, we wouldn’t have a UFC that’s around today. His promotional skills and business development were the most crucial role in growing the ufc to what it is today. Has he done dirty business and screwed over tons of fighters? Yeah, he has but not one fighter was forced into joining the ufc and in any multi billion dollar buisness, you’ll find this to be very common. Does he get paid more than he should? Thats subjective to what you choose to believe.

[@Synthwave89]

Dana White: Exists Aceace1991: *Slurp* *Slurp* *Slurp* *Slurp* *Slurp* *Slurp*

[@Aceace1991]

@ that must be rough being so limited on critical thinking that you resort to little cheesy meme jesters to make up for it. Get better soon lil bro

[@notforposers]

Funny how everyone loved Dana White now hate him. I always thought he was POS, still do.