The Fallout New Vegas Iceberg Explained

[@SakunyaWicked]

Silly Wabbit, you've given out too many secrets this time!

[@KrazyRabb1t]

Given too many secrets y’all will become to powerful

[@jasperfizzelle-halloran4867]

​@@KrazyRabb1t Here's a secret. I subscribed. Nice video

[@HauntedPropane]

This is the first time i have ever seen a tip left on a video

[@booker4984]

@@KrazyRabb1t52:08 CAN YOU HELP KE FIND WHAT MOD THIS IS IN THE TOP RIGHT?

[@mikehunthairy1805]

Shhhhhhh were hunting shitheads

[@lux8602]

"This is definitely, one of those areas even VETERAN FNV players..." Shows character dressed as a french maid Checks out.

[@mrwubbs7265]

Every time you play through any fallout game you care less about stats and looking cool and more about doing the goofiest shit possible

[@StuPdass]

@@mrwubbs7265 suurrrre

[@Based_location]

Man of culture

[@giggidygoblin]

​@@mrwubbs7265More like gooniest.

[@Longshot88]

"There's a strange creature in the water at Lake Mead." "Yeah... you mean a lakelurk?"

[@andrewbuchanan3380]

Or mirelurk

[@Hypnotically_Caucasian]

A lurklurk

[@MrFjordbak]

The creature from the black lagoon

[@Nikstanski]

Megalodon

[@horzathirteen]

It's a reference to the Loch Ness Monster...surely?

[@Soulcatcher30]

Chinese stealth armor being in the Hoover Dam is some reused lore from Van Buren design documents, I believe.

[@christianphrenger7902]

To Bad They Ruined The Chinese Armor

[@ryelor123]

The stats aren't that good. +5 to sneak doesn't do much when you stick out like a sore thumb in public.

[@titousobased]

people really think the expression "chasing ghost" literaly mean you're chasing ghosts?

[@spok_real]

It's not really a common expression at least in my experience so it's understandable

[@HeyImTiP]

@@spok_realyeah but like it seems like common sense no?

[@dog811]

never underestimate a fallout fan's ability to turn nothing into some bs conspiracy theory

[@UberMenschNowFilms]

​@@spok_real I've heard "chasing phantoms" quite a few times. Wouldn't be surprised if "chasing ghosts" is a regional variation.

[@LetsFightingLove123]

@@spok_realit’s an EXTREMELY common expression.

[@3rd.Eye.Saw.Destruction]

Brian fargo said that the divergence point was during the invention of the transistor. The reason why everything in fallout is nuclear powered is because that’s the most efficient way to power vaccum tubes

[@TheZayroen]

Fargo saying those samurais kidnaped by aliens are canon?? /j

[@3rd.Eye.Saw.Destruction]

@@TheZayroen just from my own perspective, the reason we didn’t go all in on nuclear is that tech became more efficient, the difficulty and danger outweighed the efficiency. It would make sense in retro futurism that we depleted our natural energy by virtue of tech never becoming efficient and probably more demanding of power as people relied on complex inefficient systems. It’s possible you can shrink a vaccum tube to the same size as a transistor but it would not make them more efficient, especially if the goal for shrinking them is to make space for more to create more complex systems.

[@TheZayroen]

@@3rd.Eye.Saw.Destruction Oh very true I was just citing if our timelines are the same until the divergence then that means Samurais in OUR time also got nabbed by aliens. Since that happened before the divergence

[@ICCUWANSIUT]

@@TheZayroen there's a Napoleon's Legion somewhere.

[@toyotacorolla9416]

@@ICCUWANSIUTNapoleon’s Grand Armeee

[@anawesomedoc469]

Find it funny that I stumbled across the deathclaw promontory just cause I swimming in the river looking for pinto beans

[@RealBradMiller]

Lol 😂😂😂 Something that would happen to me.

[@mr.selyumor5402]

Average wasteland experience

[@hydroxide5507]

thinking bout those beans

[@caseyhudson4929]

@@hydroxide5507 Easy Pete typa comment.

[@mussicanttakegreece7296]

I was hunting Lakelurks for their meat and make Wasteland Omelette, twist of Luck that I stumbled upon the Deathclaw's and I made an entire feast of Omelettes with their eggs.

[@Fjdndjdbxjdndj]

As a casual fan of the batshit insanity that is coast to coast AM, I’m sad that the wild wasteland radio station was never implemented and I kinda want to make a mod now

[@RealBradMiller]

"From the high desert, in the great American Southwest”

[@your_averageboi9083]

That would really cool if you made that mod!

[@Reefer-Rampage69]

That would be amazing

[@thescourged1]

I used to listen to CtoC while playing New Vegas. It was perfect.

[@StuPdass]

if you make the mod you should try and hire charborg to voice the radio host as his character Randy in his Voices of The Void streams

[@TrulyGodsGoofiest]

Vault 19 is literally just Team Fortress 2.

[@IronRation1231]

That heavy is a spy!

[@daydreamerX200]

I was thinking red vs blue

[@commandertoastcz6256]

"They did nothing wrong... but they're *blue."*

[@JustCallMeJack420]

​@@daydreamerX200 "you cant pick up chicks in a powerarmor"

[@daydreamerX200]

@@JustCallMeJack420 they're like tanks Church

[@roberttutu180]

Ulysses was such a "the Bear and the Bull" person, or in everyman terms "yapper" the IT guys had to cut him out the base game and put in a DLC where his yapping can fit.

[@RealBradMiller]

Ulysses is insufferable, but the VA did a top tier job.

[@maxxvii2037]

@@RealBradMiller The VA's great work is what makes him not a completely unsufferable character for me. Like i don't think he was supposed to be a likeable character, but oh man cut the yapping already.

[@suspicioususer]

Blud got a degree in yapology

[@bluemutt9964]

BEAR. BULL. BEAR. BULL. BEAR. BULL.

[@John-qv5ux]

Ph.D. in Yappology from the University of Yappington.

[@oodytheodd]

I think that the "South Passage" dlc refers to how we, at the very start of Honest Hearts, got to meet a bunch of unique characters with distinct personalities and a quite a bit of dialogue too, only for them to be rather unceremoniously killed in the first five minutes of the actual dlc, straight after the slide intro. I *think* that there are rumors going around that we were meant to spend much more time with these characters during a "passage" to the Zion: like going through a separate location instead of arriving to the place straight away. But that seemingly got cut. I think(?) that there were a few mods that tried to restore it? I might be wrong. Might be some mandela effect. Couldn't find it when I tried.

[@danielexe1592]

I remember those mods as well, I couldn't find em either though, happy to know I'm not a complete schizo

[@jonathanwatson4484]

That would make honest hearts kinda better not going lie, exploring uncharted territory, surviving the land, and fighting of riders. The only downside is the people you have travelled and spoke would soon die off by a ambush, do maybe there option to save em or leave them.

[@lilithbrackemyre9294]

In camp maccaran there is a note that mentions the snipers nest at cottonwood cove. The interesting part about that note is that it stresses the point that no weapons were stored at the nest, and any men that go will need to bring thier own. So the ncr that built the sniper next didn't put the golbi campaign sniper there.

[@wil2560]

I always assumed it was Boone's. After killing his wife on the legion auction block to save her he stored it away there so he wouldnt be using the gun that killed her anymore.

[@willbe3043]

@@wil2560 This destroyed me emotionally thanks

[@gameoverlordN7]

There is a mission for the NCR that has you going there to snipe a Legion Leader. Not sure if it was mentioned that the rifle was there but they give you a key for the chest so..

[@lilithbrackemyre9294]

@@gameoverlordN7 which mission, I've never heard about that one before, & on the wiki it says golbi campaign rifle chest dosent have a key?

[@gameoverlordN7]

@@lilithbrackemyre9294 Honestly It was years ago on the xbox. Defiantly wasn't a mod. Likely it was in the NCR or First recon quest lines, maybe one of the Ranger outposts as well.

[@lordsunshine4793]

Surprised the audio recording of the guy living near jacobstown who survived the great war in his homemade bunker considering heading down to the resort to rape some young women didn't make the cut. That was one of the eerier things you can find in the game.

[@rayman2902]

What the hell I didn’t even know about that

[@ZeallustImmortal]

Average jacobstown resident

[@polygonvvitch]

Where is this in the game? I never found it and want to see it now.

[@cozymarr2544]

@@polygonvvitch it’s in the Charleston cave

[@insomniagobrrr5542]

Isn't one of the two a child?

[@KiraHandMan]

I wonder if Baja got Blasted

[@tannerklotz3539]

It's a shame humor like this goes unappreciated in this world.

[@SpicyCheeseAltHistory]

@@tannerklotz3539fr

[@Random-user22]

ha

[@katherinearmstrong282]

Baja getting blasted makes for a tasty drink

[@StainsStainsStains]

oh you

[@joby5838]

I can tell you're legion fan just by how your character looks.

[@underconfident_asmr]

Ave. True to Caesar.

[@eduardodavidsuarezluna4337]

​@@underconfident_asmrPatrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.

[@PartyGoy]

Heil Ceasar

[@draconian6692]

Awe true to caesar❤

[@jonathanhanna9459]

@@draconian6692 ave false to salad

[@danb4900]

Somewhere on the iceberg could have been the fact that Grahams white legs phrase that he says to salt upon wounds has not been translated to the playerbase and it still isnt known what he was referring to

[@rugerraylewis2602]

He basically said “Caesar cannot save you” theres a video on it alr

[@Lorenzo_I.]

​@@rugerraylewis2602 It's conjecture, not concrete

[@rugerraylewis2602]

@@Lorenzo_I. i mean it may be conjecture but its more accurate than anything else ive seen

[@pacg1801]

@@The-Red-Menacethere is no direct translation

[@rugerraylewis2602]

@@pacg1801 that’s because the language isnt real my guy. Its a mix.

[@n0v1ce45]

*sound full of dread and horror plays* "Todd paid off Metacritic"

[@LordChevonlier]

The thing about the King's is that originally, Obsidian did plan on putting an Elvis song into the game, but they couldn't get the rights to it. So they had to remove a lot of the content and references to Elvis which is why the events The King explains with the Kings is so perfect that you never get to see any of the real Elvis.

[@Nemless6661]

3:56 for anyone wondering, the animation is from a mod, not the gun. Only the sounds are normally there.

[@danterodriguez8753]

any idea what the mod is called?

[@fallout3fanboy1]

​@@danterodriguez8753it's from the Hitman series of animation mods, and the most recent of his mods "New Vegas Animation Overhaul -Guns."

[@jaketheturkey7689]

19:42 from my understanding the reason the NCR rips out the servos and components in their captured power armor for their heavy troopers is so that it doesn’t require training to operate

[@Idazmi7]

That's literally stated in-game by Chief Hanlon.

[@jaketheturkey7689]

@@Idazmi7 yeah thats why thats my understanding of that. I remembered that but i didn’t quite remember who said it. I dont know how someone making a video on it could miss that as im pretty sure its a pretty common piece of lore

[@Lord_Scoliosis125]

My favorite part of this video is when he talks about old lady Gibson possibly being ex Enclave. As he talks about evidence, he tries to make Gibson and her dogs drink whiskey.

[@he11walker]

what the hell is that playermodel my guy😭😭😭

[@JustSomeKittenwithaGun]

Emo ladyboy maid 😊

[@asuchanowo]

He is a legion soldier UwU

[@sussyman9034]

I would suck it

[@SirLongHawg]

shits gnarly lmao

[@Imjudah-]

Why are new Vegas fans so weird

[@AndrosynthNuclear]

Cringe lore-unfriendly PC mods are peak Fallout youtube

[@DDRWakaLaka]

agreed, it's needlessly horny

[@Captainoob]

Don’t knock it till you try it fella

[@AndrosynthNuclear]

@@Captainoob I only occasionally install them if the default breast sizes are way too small to properly depict myself, as I can't feel properly immersed unless my characters are suffering from the same lower back pain that I do

[@Captainoob]

@@AndrosynthNuclear that’s the spirit 🤤😏

[@billyboy4400]

Why would you comment this​@@Captainoob

[@natey2290]

"chasing ghosts" is a common expression someone uses instead of saying "wasting time" hope this helps

[@Zahqariah]

Another thing against the “this is just a dream” theory is the ending in Dead Money where you get trapped inside the vault, an ending in which the courier loses

[@BOMBSHELLSTICKS]

A

[@kingofsomething3250]

@@BOMBSHELLSTICKS B

[@blacklotus5364]

​@@kingofsomething3250C

[@originalname8770]

C

[@PhoenicopterusR]

Realistically, every time you die is an ending where the Courier loses.

[@Gallalad1]

Regarding Jet it could be an example of a research chemical. Basically in the 2000s it was a big thing where people would slightly modify drugs like cannibis and MDMA to produce a drug that had a different chemical makeup but similar effects. You could then legally sell these as chemicals for clinical research ("not for human consumption"). Its possible in the future someone managed to pull off a similar thing with Jet. Basically reverse engineering it.

[@rsk5288]

Cope

[@mr.selyumor5402]

That’s not cooler or more interesting than Myron just coming up with it himself. A lot of retcons in this series are just adding details that don’t go anywhere.

[@Gallalad1]

@@mr.selyumor5402 on that I agree, its a dumb retcon. But it is now lore, so I will try and make the math math.

[@CantusTropus]

​@@Gallalad1That's doing the writers' job for them.

[@whodis4097]

I don't know alot about the lore of jet, but I do know chemistry. What if the two jets are enantiomers? Most drug companies riding a patent sell enantiomers with similar effects as a single mixture because they do not care to purify out the less effective one. The would make the pre-war one a racemic mixture, and the post-war one a pure sample of the more addictive enantiomer refined from the previous medical literature. That's just me spit-balling though. I don't know if there are differences in the jets across games, but this could be used to explain it.

[@keshonhend2047]

Fallout 3 and 4 have Jet in pre war locations because of randomised loot tables. It’s purely a gameplay consideration. It is weird that it’s on the other side of the country already but then so are the scorpions, deathclaws, brotherhood of steel, etc. Marketable iconography.

[@angelosilva9761]

Also, as a little add, if they really wanted to make jet a pre-war drug, they would have inserted it on fallout76. That instead doesn't have it.

[@drear20486]

36:18 what I think this is referring to this quote from Josh Sawyer "For a while we joked around that we should have something at Mojave Outpost where you can ask Major Knight to let you go back to NCR. He would say something like, "Well, okay, but we can't let you back through." "Sounds good." *roll credits*"

[@0impronunciavel]

Either that or the fact you can actually open the Mojave Outpost gate with console commands (and there's quite a stretch of road behind it before the map ends).

[@Addonzs]

They just don’t make open world games like fallout new Vegas any more, great video

[@ColeTrainStudio]

my man out here ignoring Baldurs Gate 3.

[@calebsanderson7299]

Yea but bald man gate isn’t a fps or have the fallout charm

[@DustySiren]

@@ColeTrainStudiothat game has a super mid open world if you could even call it that

[@Poedequin]

not really the same but elden ring is a good open world game

[@conor987]

try out wasteland series,@@calebsanderson7299

[@chrisholladay]

I like the idea that House may be able to put a backdoor in the snippet that Yes-Man "found," and having Yes-Man accidentally reprogram himself into a clone of Mr. House

[@realhypnotic]

this is infinitely better than any other asmr audio roleplay i have ever listened to.

[@surprisedchar2458]

The best part about the Hegelian Dialectics thing is that Caesar is not at all applying Hegel's actual philosophy. He has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. Someone who actually read Hegel would have about 1% of an idea of what they're talking about.

[@CantusTropus]

Hegel is notoriously dense and impenetrable even in the original German. His work is mysticism disguised as philosophy. Caesar isn't wrong, because nobody can agree what, if anything, Hegel is supposed to mean.

[@LandlordAnnihilator]

​@@CantusTropus Marx and Engels made Hegel understandable and I appreciate that fr

[@gorkaaustin5306]

@@LandlordAnnihilatorfrfr

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

I don't know if you miswrote whatever you meant to write but I appreciate the implication that reading Hegel actually makes you dumber (Caesar is just naturally dumb).

[@thomasarias5160]

I would have added "the school" to the iceberg. In Honest Hearts, in one of the last logs from the survivalist (in 2123), he claims that he saw a group of 24 children between the ages of 8 and 14, who escaped from some place they call "the school". As far as I know there is no more information about this place anywhere, not in the DLC, in the base game, or in any other Fallout media, always intrigued me, I even find it kind of creepy, I remember the log said the older children would tell the younger "The Principal is gonna get you" to get them to behave.

[@ZainMalik-mj1qs]

My take on this is that it's the X-8 Research Facility at Big MT, and the Principal is Dr. Borous.

[@lynxbelow6922]

​@@ZainMalik-mj1qsThere is a literal school in Big MT, buuuut I see no evidence that it was ever operational or suitable for human living. Also, they habitually lobotomized their patients.

[@hydroxide5507]

i think "southern passage dlc" could be something to do with the southern gate at the mojave outpost? people speculated there would be a dlc in california or something. ofc this is before the lonesome dlc came out where SPOILERS at the end of it if u nuke the ncr u can access an irradiated area through it

[@Phanthion]

It also makes sense as South is the last remaining direction for a DLC. We have Dead Money's start east of the map, Honest Hearts in the north, and Lonesome Road to the west.

[@USDep.OfTimelinePreservation]

​@@PhanthionOWB is to the south

[@Phanthion]

@@USDep.OfTimelinePreservation True

[@zoltanz288]

wait, did people seriously think that NCR was literally fighting ghosts in baja? this is a thing that needs an iceberg entry!??? SRSLY!?

[@DrClock-il8ij]

Some people are really really dull lmao

[@B-zk9bt]

lol, like the phrase “chasing ghosts” literally means wasting time 💀

[@imposteramogus2167]

I find the lake mead monster one even more shocking

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

The trend is to make iceberg diagrams with every crackpot theory or obscure super minor fact on them to fill them out and make something look "deeper" than it really is. A lot of people also just don't understand the conceit of the meme (possibly from reading other bad icebergs) and fill every layer with crackpot theories instead of just the deepest layers (as in this case). Maybe from following others' example, they think an "iceberg" is an arbitrary visual reference of crackpot theories where simple misunderstandings go at the top and schizophrenic ramblings and wild moonshots go at the bottom, not realizing that it's a reference to "90% of an iceberg being below the surface," ie increasingly little-known facts about something about which only 10% are well-known in the first place. In Elder Scrolls, for example, the lore really is vast, but like 70% is surface-level and the other 30% is usually pretty accessible. So people will make TES lore icebergs where the bottom layers are things like Trinimalarkay or "Fargoth is actually a sixth house scion!!!" If you're not savvy on TES lore, Trinimalarkay is hard to explain, but Fargoth is just a whiny wood elf you meet early in Morrowind who gets bullied by both local thugs and local cops, probably because he's annoying; The sixth house is an historical and secretly still-extant faction that were falsely branded traitors by the three god-kings who rule Morrowind, and are themselves led by the deranged god-king Dagoth Ur. The connection is -goth in the name (the Sixth House is also called House Dagoth; many of the ancient figures had Chinese-style naming conventions where the surname comes first). The theory is obvious bullshit based only on a vague name similarity, like saying Jorge, the nerdy socially inept kid from down the street, is actually the true heir to George Washington and rightful President of the United States because both of their names end with -orge. You have to make wild reaches like that to come up with things people haven't heard of, though.

[@princesspupcake1269]

For the No-Bark conspiracy, in JSawyer's unofficial mod for New Vegas, the armoured vault 13 jumpsuit will be added to the trunk of the crashed highway man, kinda just cementing the fact the chosen one WAS there.

[@mindaugassolys1963]

2 months late but, Avellone in the past covered it and wrote on Twitter that No-Bark is not the Chosen One from FO2.

[@patriktoth6258]

"unofficial mod" And i stopped reading

[@mindaugassolys1963]

@@patriktoth6258 JSawyer is not bad. It's basically is director's cut edition and is what Sawyer wanted to implement into the game but couldn't due to lack of time. Crashed highwayman was nice easter egg tbh.

[@patriktoth6258]

@@mindaugassolys1963 Its still not good enough for a single reason. I don't know the name of the NPC,but in Novac that singer guy (who can be recruited fir the Top's theater) explains how he got there. The highwayman was used by the chosen one,but it wasn't him who crashed it.

[@ek_kuzmich]

About the Garret incest: Jerry the Punk in Red Rock Canyon can tell you one of his poems in which he mentions it. And he says that because of this verse, he was thrown out of the casino. Maybe it's just a joke from him about incest to annoy the owners, maybe not. He doesn't specify

[@hazeltade3679]

I mean true or not it’d upset most people either way

[@karendanielaguardadogalean5578]

​@@hazeltade3679 hopefully.

[@packpanda8272]

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[@Yung_test_tickle]

bro

[@adrianjurado8146]

Same bro

[@wolf-childytbr115]

Yo Rabb1t i think this dude likes you

[@okuyasu_6991]

Dude in missionary

[@eeveepeasy9889]

Woah there skippy, save some parasocial relationship for the rest of us

[@BruhBruhBruh251]

Rabb1t doing a fallout iceberg is strangely satisfying and feels right even tho I’ve only seen his zombies content

[@f1rek1ller-56]

Fr, I saw the username and was like is that the guy who played zombies with Tim Hansen 😂

[@jimgaither5430]

Hearing about the lone wolf murderer quest line sent chills down my spine. Im almost sad they cut it because it would make for a very satisfying villain to fight, but I dont blame them, I wouldn't want to have to develop that either

[@undeadsentenal8093]

Jet is not prewar, the only evidence is either things that devs have spoken on and corrected, and Bethesda (unsurprisingly) not paying attention to lore and accidently throwing them wherever, said issue is fixed in 76 where jet can't be found period

[@Hamdog74]

Yeah fr, the fact that he skims over how it’s made from brahmin dung, the dung of a mutated animal that didn’t exist prewar, and how the only signs of it being pre war popped up in fallout 4 with vault 95 through one terminal, which is literally just an oversight by Bethesda. It’s good they learned from it with 76 in that regard, still kinda funny that wiki pages for it will always have that whole Myron vs pre-war thing now even though it’s a kinda obvious thing.

[@ryelor123]

They probably removed it because its just methamphetamine. Its effect is that of meth for people who don't have ADHD. For people with ADHD, mentats would be more like meth.

[@jackthemysterious360]

56:11 I would have never expected a Jerma reference here but I'm absolutely here for it lmao. That was literally the same video that introduced me to him back in the day

[@cupofearlgreytea7651]

Small point But jet is found in some pre war containers in fallout 4 because a majority of fallout 4's loot is randomly generated, so that may help explain things

[@trial_with_an_error9687]

Bethesda has already stated they retconned Jet to be a prewar drug. It's a stupid fucking idea don't get me wrong, but that's the reason it appears in pre war chests and loot pools.

[@protkrombere6828]

I wish Bethesda cared about pre-established lore rather than making a theme park out of Fallout ​@@trial_with_an_error9687

[@nothingwrong2293]

It's not hard to remove jet from the loot generation list for prewar containers, modders already did that. Bethesda chose to retcon this

[@mr.selyumor5402]

They have individual pools in that game too which makes it a little worse. They could have just separated it to ‘pre-war’ and ‘post war’

[@user-dm8kz8ul8h]

@@nothingwrong2293probably for the show would be my guess

[@kazuhiramiller7945]

Forgot to mention that No-Bark is aware of major communist figures like Lenin. The oil rig contained this knowledge and would explain his knowledge on the topic of communism.

[@SuperLumianaire]

I have a theory that the reason you can use armor in Fallout 4 is because Nate was trained in it and it would be well reasons to think that he trained Nora and I think that's why both of them are expert handlers of firearms as well.

[@porkflaps4717]

It does make sense that someone would need training in a fully automated mech suit, you would think somebody not familiar with power armor could easily break an arm or leg if they used it incorrectly and/or a limb was being moved or hyper extended in a way the human body isn't designed for. I'm all for making tech easy to figure out, but power armor being used so successfully by any dummy their first time wearing it is kind of unbelievable, but you know, Bethesda. As time goes on, the game's continuity is getting worse.

[@savagemcflurry9082]

It would make sense for Nate to be trained in power armor use as his military background. But not so much for Nora.

[@SuperLumianaire]

@@savagemcflurry9082 being that war is going to break out, it stands to reason Nate taught Nora through a seminar. Why do you think both of them aim guns immensely well?

[@Nick-zp3ub]

Nora could have been an army lawyer

[@SuperLumianaire]

@@Nick-zp3ub I forgot that was even a thing. And I've seen Rules Of Engagement.

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

19:30 It wasn’t retconned in FO4 really. The Sole Survivor’s prewar military service likely included Power Armor Training so he knows how to use it before the game even starts.

[@InquisitorThomas]

That makes sense for a Male Sole Survivor, but what about a Female Sole Survivor? Also there are plenty of raiders running around in Power Armor during Fallout 3, and they likely didn’t have training.

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

@@InquisitorThomas Husband taught her 😅

[@-springs]

@@inquistorthomas probably prewar holotapes

[@samprice1302]

The show (which is canon) supports that retcon too, multiple untrained people used power armour

[@rifleshooterchannel208]

@@samprice1302 Haven’t watched the show yet, I’m betting it’s going to be a canon as Netflix’s “Resident Evil” was though 😂

[@thereall4d2ellis]

I'd say the reason power armour training doesn't exists in fallout 4 is due to Nate being in the military pre-war, therefore already having the training.

[@deathdealer312]

then how can his wife use it?

[@thereall4d2ellis]

@@deathdealer312 she isnt really the "canon" sole survivor and itd be unfair to not let anyone use power armor if they play as a female. Realistically she wouldnt be able to

[@deathdealer312]

@@thereall4d2ellis so your theory is wrong then

[@tekrit3249]

Too many random raider regards running around in power armor. They really screwed a lot of things to stick you in power armor, with a minigun fighting a deathclaw within the first 15 minutes. It feels kind of... desperate. Maybe even a little insulting.

[@thereall4d2ellis]

@@tekrit3249 id imagine the raiders that use power armor have the training or simply use it without training and are less effective because of it

[@bijntjeveenstra2455]

The fact that boon and myron share the same voice actor is the wildest thing on this list.

[@AdaraHepburn938]

Boone, Myron and Salem the cat from Sabrina The Teenage Witch

[@P1X3LGAMERgo___]

This is definitely a certified Fallout Classic

[@popeofsimps2924]

19:30 i'll give a counter to that vault dweller was sent out by their vault to find a water chip so there's a good chance they got them trained up with stuff like PAT chosen one is just a beast in general and is, well, the chosen one and Nate was a former soldier, someone who'd have training (Nora not sure though, maybe she had some advice from Nate? idk) and the 76ers would be a control vault, likely the same reason as VD except instead of water chip to get its to rebuild america meanwhile LW was only 18 when they left, and on sudden note too, while courier the most we know of them pre-main game is that they were... a courier, nothing that'd have training in power armor, at most they delivered ICBM codes through the divide which was... a bad idea to say the least, but still, nothing to really get a mailman to wear power armor

[@xX_K3LLF1RE_Xx]

Canonically Nate is the Sole Survivor

[@DBArtsCreators]

Can't really use the 'Jet found in pre-war areas' as justification when it comes to FO3 & FO4. FO3 was open about not caring too much about the history of the series (and lore in general, mess that it is); FO4 is about as bad, and on top of that has the consideration of semi-random loot tables which likely didn't have any consideration of whether or not a specific item was a pre-war or post-war creation. Unless something from the original Fallout games (1, 2, arguably Tactics) or New Vegas outright states that Jet was developed post-war, the assumption should be that it's a post-war creation by Myron, which didn't have a true pre-war equivalent.

[@Idazmi7]

Exactly. The lore says Myron created jet, so Myron created jet.

[@rockycuro7737]

@@Idazmi7but the lore doesn’t say that because of the contradictions in fallout 2

[@majormissile5596]

​@rockycuro7737 Which contradictions? The pretty unreliable story of a drug addict? It's honestly quite clear Bethesda was careless with the lore. Not to say that FNV didn't take liberties, hell even fallout 2 took liberties, but they whern't completely careless.

[@rockycuro7737]

@@majormissile5596 also the fact that you can just say to Myron’s face that you know he didn’t invent it with a high enough intelligence check

[@DBArtsCreators]

@@rockycuro7737 That intelligence check is just confirming that Myron discovered it accidentally, not that he didn't create it. Jet is a purely post-war drug. One Myron created accidentally and claimed he'd done intentionally.

[@natedavis8067]

I always thought that, at least lore-wise, you don’t need Power Armor training because your character fought in anchorage and probably already knew how power armor works. This only makes sense if you play as Nate though.

[@patriktoth6258]

Also doesn't makes sense in Fo76. A regular vault dweller can use it as well. They just scrapped the need of training after new vegas in my opinion. If you think further. Curie can use it as well. And she was a robot who received a synth body. No way she could had a power armor training while she was scared of breathing

[@SuperLumianaire]

To be fair, Old Lady Gibson has no problem murdering her own dog for you if you want the dog's brain.

[@Coeski]

Since it's the brain it's technically alive

[@aprofessionalgamer5355]

As sad as it is at least rex gains the memories of ray

[@SuperLumianaire]

@@aprofessionalgamer5355 bittersweet?

[@rsk5288]

It's a dog ?

[@mitchellsidebottom9271]

@@aprofessionalgamer5355Messed up part is that implies Ray remembers being violently put down by Gibson.

[@saintdane9684]

50:46 Nah, Marty Robbins is just such straight fire, that his western ballads could be applied to badlands and wastelands alike

[@jamesonjones6952]

Myron made jet. The devs who made fallout 4 weren’t paying attention to lore

[@johnaustin209]

Bethesda...always wrong.

[@imposteramogus2167]

But doesn’t the fallout 2 protagonist say he just stumbled across jet if they have 10 int?

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

Like a lot of things in FO4 it isn't even internally consistent within the game itself. Jet is now a prewar pharmaceutical but it's also still jenkem (you make it yourself out of fertilizer). Nowhere near as egregious as the Institute contradictions, which are central to the plot. It's like BGS saw people raving about the morally grey plots in NV, wanted to try it themselves, and couldn't figure out how to write a morally ambiguous faction, so they just put conclusive evidence that the Institute was doing evil things and conclusive evidence they were not doing tjose same things in the game.

[@iffystill5554]

after watching the fallout TV show the dust ending looks very similar to the end credits showing the state of new vegas

[@thynamesss]

“Bastard!” “Look at him go!” Truly terrifying.

[@weewoo7802]

Surely the Lake Mead Monster is just a play on the Loch Ness monster seeing as old bomber planes wouldn't have survived the war so a wasteland far into the future wouldn't have any basis for that.

[@calliecalamity8787]

Have you played the game? There's a bomber plane in lake mead that the boomers repair if you help them in their questline. Yea of course they don't have a basis for it that's why they call it a "creature or object" they have no idea what it is.

[@rottingpotatoes2483]

There really is a bomber at the bottom of Lake Mead in real life. It crash landed there while on an atmospheric research mission in the 40’s. The location of the plane was discovered a few years ago.

[@weewoo7802]

@@rottingpotatoes2483 Okay that I didn't know.

[@weewoo7802]

@@calliecalamity8787 Of course they don't, I'm implying there's a play on words which is referential, Fallout has always had meta humor.

[@calliecalamity8787]

@@weewoo7802 the reason for it is right there and there's like a thousand lake monster stories

[@aquatic4760]

25:24 Devs ended up watching a speedrun video about the glitch, they were pretty surprised by it though knew it existed through watching previous speedruns. Was never an intentional glitch

[@monfrezo]

I personally still feel the publicly hidden grudge bthesda has towards obsidian and new vegas, it even reflects in fallout 4 imo😂 "Obsidian: hold my beer" till this day bthesda holding that beer Btw amazing video!

[@DustySiren]

Companies don’t hold grudges against each other just because some Redditors think one made a better game

[@wolfgang_h3t]

The show definitely hasn't helped that lol

[@PhoenicopterusR]

Contracts have no feelings. People are just too tied up in nostalgia to remember that 84 is generous for NV on release. It took time for the game to get actually playable, and it still had the same ugly fo3 coat of paint. Good writing can only do so much work.

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

​@@DustySirenReminds me of how certain Fromsoft fans view Dark Souls 2. Even after the final DS3 DLC was a giant love letter to Dark Souls 2, the director of 1 and 3 had to say he actually loved 2 even though he didn't direct it in an interview for people to stop theorizing that he despised it and it was an affront to his very existence, after which the huge volume of clowning on 2 died down and it became socially acceptable to say you liked it. Mind you it was always the highest-rated game in the franchise on metacritic (critically, and ironically until relatively recently in user reviews as well) despite the vocal minority and a rocky launch due to console limitations. FO4 has at least 2 FONV nods, and that's all I'll say on the supposed BGS/Obsidian rivalry.

[@Triplicata]

I forget who it was, maybe Josh Sawyer, but one of the devs confirmed No Bark is not the Chosen One

[@JustSomeKittenwithaGun]

Yes he is tf

[@scottmemelord6130]

@@JustSomeKittenwithaGun Yeah the old Fallout devs are notorious for contradicting eachother lmao. Who knows?

[@SGTLucky774]

I'm so used to associating that armor with me in the thumbnail I had a stroke seeing it in the thumbnail Good work!

[@adibakanda214]

damn i just started old world blues. this a sign

[@HaizamShah]

The “DUST mod is the true ending for FONV” is really eerily close to the final ending episode for the Fallout Amazon TV show

[@nusac]

I was looking for a comment about this! Glad I found it

[@Yoyie4]

No overly long and monotonous intro and gets right into the iceberg? Subbed.

[@LifelessTooth]

"Hoover Damn doesn't work" could also be referencing the fact that Obsidian released a patch after the game released to remove some objects and special effects to save memory and improve performance. One of these removed special effects were the massive water flow coming out of Hoover Dam's pipeworks. You can actually still see it immortalized in the Intro slide cinematics.

[@catchtherainbow8042]

We do know the divergence point. The transistor was never invented. Also what about the old lady gibson mad max thing? Sawed off shotgun, gibson like mel gibson, a bunch of blue heelers. Love this video also.

[@RoxxyGoth1887]

A day before my birthday and I see my old iceberg covered with half a million views! I made this when the SM64 Iceberg took off so as such it has way more creepypasta/conspiracy vibes than modern icebergs which tend to be more strictly informational. Impressed at how you managed to roll with the entries with zero substance behind them aside from the aforementioned internet horror shit. Not an iceberg you can just google every entry for, you really gotta have the FNV meme brainrot for it. I appreciate overlooking the "lone wold" radio mistake too. Thanks for covering my old dumb one when there are so many more substantial FO icerbegs now. Still great for the "I want to believe" playground rumor type nostalgia of being a kid and games were still mysterious and possibilities were endless.

[@RoxxyGoth1887]

The NCRCF inside job plot line was actually picked up by theoverseer's quests mods, I think it was Depths of Depravity or one of the other ones where you need to investigate a conspiracy theorist. Conspiracy politics fit perfectly into the larger world of NV so it's great to see that idea explored in a quality quest mod.

[@KrazyRabb1t]

It was a good iceberg, I prefer more theories and creepy stuff than straight facts like a lot of others.

[@TEMMIS]

41:29 The mod Run the Lucky 38 adds a tunnel from H&H Tools to the Lucky 38 so people could be thinking of that

[@genrone]

I hate how people think that what you loot in building was only prewar (like for the jet). Like bro it's a game it's just loot. Why would they have fucking caps in their safe like what's even the point ?

[@RuneZoom]

I support you pumping out different types of content lately

[@tracydace938]

You got me to go back and replay all the dlcs for fnv. This the good shit right here

[@spirit8296]

not a single bad one. even dead money’s okay, it’s admittedly carried by an insanely interesting story but ur right honestly bro, new vegas is the greatest game ever made and its never been close

[@tracydace938]

@@spirit8296 Honest Hearts was prolly my favorite, scenery was unmatched. Fnv on pc even without graphics mods looks beautiful

[@spectralbride]

@@spirit8296???? dead money is prolly the best one bro they all goated asf tho pathologic 2, fnv, and majoras mask all equal for my 10/10 games ez masterpiecez

[@PGTRegard]

​@@spirit8296dead money is my favorite one. Old world blues was honestly so awful. Hated the story, game play, humor, just everything.

[@leoortiiiz]

goated top 3 ​@@spectralbride

[@deniedprawn4224]

Only thing I can think of onto the Fallout 4 “Ret-con” of the power armor is that fact that Nate was military. Seeing as one of the creators said that in the beginning cutscene of fallout 1 I believe the individual in power armor laughing as the Canadian civilian gets executed was Nate.

[@a_zula1]

I like the idea of the devs setting down a giant murder lizard for their amusement while on lunch break just to see ragdoll physics at work

[@discipleofdagon8195]

Imagine being one of those rare deathclaws that can speak and understand humans, you're on a holiday with your more simpler brethren across the Colorado river... and then some chick in Louboutins and a maid costume just run on by.

[@craigsovilla6578]

Weren't those enhanced deathclaws thanks to the Enclave?

[@Caroline_9877]

​@@craigsovilla6578I'm pretty sure

[@slicedbread5568]

​@@craigsovilla6578 technically all deathclaws are likely thanks to the enclave since they're supposed to be military experiments

[@PartyGoy]

Imagine ur one of those rare death claws n i ate u

[@TheZayroen]

naw naw that fucking fazbear music with Petes face fucking got me irl while I was drinking. That's a sub

[@lennic]

dust being cannon kinda feels in line with the tv show almost lol

[@wowreacts9717]

can i just say thank you for immediately getting to the point of the video rather than having a boring ass 5 minute intro like every other iceberg creator??

[@pokemaster123ism]

I’m pretty sure the sulphur fumes from the caves under Vault 19 was what drove the dwellers crazy

[@samhescott348]

It would actually be kind of cool for season 2 of the show to have yes man controlling Vegas after the upgrade

[@clintbustwood4800]

There’s no way that will be the canon ending. Yes man’s ending just turns new Vegas into Afghanistan

[@Mrwiggles382]

@@clintbustwood4800I mean with the ncr gone

[@manny7289]

@@clintbustwood4800new vegas does kinda look a lil fucked up at the end of the show

[@ver-loren9224]

Well to be fair power armor training is only retconned in 4 because The cannon Sole Survivor is Nate and it's said he was in the army (and supposedly is one of the two guys in power armor in the TV thing in the beginning of fallout 1 so he really needs to power armor training) and The Courier is well versed in the Mojave and other places and people to the point that he's probably had to figure out power armor (literally turning the bulkhead after putting a fusion core in but yknow) maybe to save his life. It makes sense basically as to how they dropped and makes even less sense as to why it was there at all

[@boolin4099]

Love you Rabbit been just getting back into NV myself recently and this is perfect

[@billym7930]

Krazy rabbit i love your old zombie vids years back!!! pretty sick to see you branching out to other content too. just saying wsp mannnn

[@hydroxide5507]

what is bluds character model 😮

[@jamestiberius9730]

I am pretty sure the H&H Tools quest could be a reference to the job in the Camp McCarran Mess Hall where you need a bunch of parts to fix the cooking equipment. The guy recommends primarily going to H&H and the Westside Co-op (the store in westside)

[@CliffCardi]

I’d like to add some things: No-Bark Noonan is the lone survivor of the nearby Vault 11. Novak is close to it, and the first recording you find there has a voice which sounds just like No-barks. The other is that the floating platforms on the middle of Lake Mead was supposed to be a floating Trading Post with their own NPCs, but, you know, only 18 months.

[@legendarycraig882]

I really liked the Sarsaparilla story. Makes you think that the saloon owner was a nice man but also leaves it open to the idea he ordered a hit on the stranger

[@jimhoxworth8655]

I know what I'm doing for the next hour. Your zombies iceberg vid kicked ass lol.

[@rellicproduction]

So tiny lore spoiler for fallout show episode 2, but it seems to add more weight to the idea that old lady Gibson is ex enclave, as the show states that the German shepherd breed of dogs and dogmeat are all enclave

[@RealBradMiller]

Yup. Oh, I didn't think I could love Dogmeat more.

[@Electricgains243]

Rex too

[@Aanderan]

van buren was canceled due to interplay wanting to focus more on console games conflicting with the team's desire to make a more traditional rpg. A Fallout MMO was what was "canceled" when bethesda bought the franchise, but that's quite muddy with them (??)maybe(??) retaining some rights and working on it for a bit longer after the fact until bethesda finally hit interplay with a CnD. I wouldn't call it heavy influence as most of the writers behind it also finalised a bunch of the plotlines they were working on (and in some cases were still developing in table top rpg versions of fallout). FNV isn't Van Buren, but has it's bones and in a twisted sense is a sequel to a bunch of plot points from the original concept that it doesn't actively retcon. Albeit the protagonist and antagonist's actions don't really exist; nor the new plague ever appearing on the West coast.

[@0impronunciavel]

16:15 - "The base game is missing a follower who has sympathetic ties to the Legion." Raul: "Am I a joke to you?"

[@austinpoor5217]

Click on iceberg video. Iceberg video starts with clear audio and immediately begins the actual content of the iceberg video. I press like

[@Arraydeess]

I thought in 4 your character had been in the military previously (why you get to be in the vault) which cooooould mean you had used power armor before, thus you already have training.

[@spleens4200]

I’m sorry, but “Veronica, who’s also a lesbian” caught me so off guard and I love it

[@sneakymoon556]

Gay:/

[@spleens4200]

@@sneakymoon556 Someone’s gotta give boys proper competition so their girls don’t settle for mediocre men

[@dedmin6119]

I love that Caesar is like a guy who learned philosophy from weird subreddits

[@exoticrpgs5050]

I made the armor retexture in the thumbnail. It’s cool still seeing it used by people.

[@Grimpy970]

Hegelian dialectics are a super problematic philosophical lens to view the world from. The fact that fallout doesn't fully explain it makes it somehow even more damaging. Anyone who talks about Hegel too much has a screw loose. It's a massive red flag! It takes a loooot of reduction and over simplification to describe history and human nature as simply reactive to each other. Some things simply aren't opposites. The legion isn't the NCR's antethisis. They didn't even know the NCR existed when they were happily enslaving tribes, nor did the NCR know of the legion. It can be a useful lens to describe civil wars and uprisings, but these are sovereign nations for all intents and purposes. They don't need each other to justify their own existence. They're both theses. Contradictory, but hardly opposites. Hegelian dialectics makes it very easy to justify your hatred of any 'other' because you're fundamentally assuming they're opposite to you in every way. That's VERY rarely true in all of history, and has caused great suffering and hardship over the millenia. Hegel didn't come up with the idea, he just codified it into a comfy little blanket that warmongers can feel cozy in.

[@aaroniscool7521]

I can vouch for ghobi being used to kill Boone's wife. When I found that thing I killed all of cottonwood cove without being seen. And when I had to go there for the main story all I had to do was use the raft to travel to the camp. Shit was funny to me

[@JustSomeKittenwithaGun]

You know that's the courier cause them anime girls always got a...package 😏

[@Rougrou1597]

I would always get 100 lock picking first to get the Gobi scout and Lucky until I can get Cristins Sniper and the rat slayer