The Fascination and Frustration of Pick Abrasion

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Troy Grady

Troy Grady

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@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks as always for watching! If you've got thoughts on this topic, you can of course leave them here. But you can also check out our forum thread as well: forum.troygrady.com/t/picks-and-abrasion/9782/
@dalton7145
@dalton7145 5 жыл бұрын
I have a few health problems that most of the time make it hard to hang on to picks. I've tried many different types but just can't seem to find the one. Any ideas? Btw can't fingerpick either.
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
Thumb pick? It wraps around your thumb entirely. Some players still grip it like a more typical flat pick, even though it's wrapped around the thumb.
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 5 жыл бұрын
@@dalton7145 I have nerve damage in both arms so I have a similar issue but perhaps not as much as you.. I use V-picks and they help especially when I run them under hot water and use purell to get rid of any oil. You can also try the Chris Broderick clip pick. Its similar to a thumb pick but instead its metal and you slid the pick into it. So you can use whatever pick you prefer.
@merttalay9702
@merttalay9702 5 жыл бұрын
Troy your videos are great especially interview with famous guitar players about their technique like oz noy Frank gambale it s always be a pleasure to watch your videos
@ensomniiac
@ensomniiac 5 жыл бұрын
I got a thought...nah I'm just kidding. Your just too damn amazing Troy. Love your videos, inspiration and crazy insight. Improved my guitar playing tenfold. Was stuck in a rut for years. Your videos opened my eyes to ideas and theories I would not of found anywhere else. Thanks so much bro🙏✌
@TheRealCowlick
@TheRealCowlick 5 жыл бұрын
I love these pick videos. Nobody talks enough about this stuff.
@fdfsdfsvsfgsg4888
@fdfsdfsvsfgsg4888 7 ай бұрын
Nobody talks about this stuff because it isn't interesting.
@isaacrumley
@isaacrumley 5 жыл бұрын
You see I don't have this problem because I lose my picks before they wear down
@ReneeNme
@ReneeNme 5 жыл бұрын
Ah, another pick loser. Glad to know that I'm not sailing on that ship alone. Hahahahaha ...
@Trve_Kvlt
@Trve_Kvlt 5 жыл бұрын
Isaac Rumley You ever just drop a pick and it looks like it falls straight down, but you find it somewhere else? Like it falls through a magical portal and appears in your refrigerator.
@isaacrumley
@isaacrumley 5 жыл бұрын
@@Trve_Kvlt yea I found one just the other day in my underwear drawer like what????
@JpsMusic100
@JpsMusic100 5 жыл бұрын
I have that problem too, I always think I'm running out of picks, but the second I go to clean the room I play in, I check the floor, and sure enough there's like 8 picks there. Half of them aren't anywhere near where I play either
@TheDUDE101GOOD
@TheDUDE101GOOD 5 жыл бұрын
i didnt know guitar technique was THIS intricate.
@luckylicks3497
@luckylicks3497 5 жыл бұрын
Try going for any other instrument, they're all prepared with answers. For way too long, guitarists have walked around with paper bags over their heads. It's so refreshing how electric guitar is taken seriously. Next decade will be explosive, as classical guitar, acoustic and electric guitar in all its forms will become more correlated.
@Ferrichrome
@Ferrichrome 5 жыл бұрын
I’m a cellist, and in a way, playing electric guitar is a sweet release for me because the cello requires so much technique. But watching these videos makes me nerd out too. It’s great!
@luckylicks3497
@luckylicks3497 5 жыл бұрын
@@Ferrichrome Makes sense, since there are so many styles where the guitar fits in perfectly, and many don't require too long to get it down to where you can play it, especially if you have a background in other instruments. On the same token, the guitar is a polyphonic instrument, which means endless possibilities, therefore puts it, along with the piano, into the category of the most difficult instruments to master.
@chromaticswing9199
@chromaticswing9199 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly, all instruments require tons of technique. For some musicians, and guitarists in particular, all of this is unconscious after years of practice and experience. The classical instruments tend to have more regulated technique due to their well developed pedagogy, while the newer, folksier instruments are more all over the place. Troy Grady is just breaking down the technique into microscopic bits so we can finally see the building blocks that make up our favorite guitarists. They were always there, just not noticed!
@Ferrichrome
@Ferrichrome 5 жыл бұрын
LuckyLicks yes, certainly I did not mean to downplay the skill it takes to play guitar well. I have always loved watching virtuoso guitar players because they can play faster than I ever could. But what’s great about guitar, is that it’s a lot easier to get started with than other instruments. At least, that is what I feel.
@josep43767
@josep43767 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know what I should be applauding more, your amazing video quality or your ability to not lose a pick long enough for it to wear
@i_live_pain8420
@i_live_pain8420 5 жыл бұрын
I tell everyone, if you wear jeans put the pick in your change, or watch pocket as it used to be called. Its that little pocket on top of the regular pocket. That way the only way to lose it would be if someone grabbed you by both legs and shook you upside down. But seriously do this and even if you forget to take them out before washing your jeans, you will always find them at the bottom of your washer. Been doing this for years and have some picks with significant wear on them from being owned for years. Does not have to be jeans either, can be any pair of pants or shorts with the small pocket. Cheers.
@NeonShadowsx
@NeonShadowsx 5 жыл бұрын
You need to get Destin from Smarter Every Day with his high speed camera on this! That would be a great collab
@ayeapprove
@ayeapprove 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your hard work on this. I just wish companies would advertise their products in the same scientific way and not use words like "warm, vintage, modern"
@StarSpawn9477
@StarSpawn9477 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve used a nail file on my picks for years. I file the edges thin like sharping a knife. Bad thing is it’s time consuming. I’ve never found a company that sells picks with a sharpened edge like that. I also file the tip to a point. I’m super nerdy about my picks.
@The1stMrJohn
@The1stMrJohn 5 жыл бұрын
Same here😁
@ivanbrasla
@ivanbrasla 5 жыл бұрын
Clayton spikes?
@dylanwillis1473
@dylanwillis1473 5 жыл бұрын
Tortex sharps sounds like the pick you need. I love those bad boys
@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer
@oldtimetinfoilhatwearer 2 жыл бұрын
Bluechip
@dylanwillis1473
@dylanwillis1473 5 жыл бұрын
You need to do a video on the tortex sharp shape of pick. There is something about them that makes high gain tones so much better sounding. At least through my rig.
@mikedixon8830
@mikedixon8830 5 жыл бұрын
Yes they do. Very satisfying crunch tones.
@BatEatsMoth
@BatEatsMoth 4 жыл бұрын
I like nylon. I was using gator grips, but they lose their tone as they wear smooth. When you play live, you need something that will wear sharp as you work through your set, because the audience loses their treble perception as their hearing dulls. That's why nylon was the most popular pick material for a long time. That, and because it generally lasts longer than other materials due to the sharpening of tone with wear. Also, nylon is good for getting certain types of sounds. It's great for gothic rock because it tends to enhance the wet effects like chorus and flanger in a characteristic way that works well for that style. Most of the 80's UK punk and gothic rock guitarists used nylon picks. Billy Duffy is a big fan of the Herco 50. He also plays with the corner instead of the tip, which solves the flappiness problem of using thinner nylon picks. His lush, velvety tone is from those nylons.
@andyoushouldfeelbad
@andyoushouldfeelbad Жыл бұрын
Most underrated channel on KZbin.
@alexswanson1247
@alexswanson1247 5 жыл бұрын
Dunlop stubbies are my go to pick. Perfect size, even with my long thin hands. Point gives me great control, and i find i miss the fewest notes with them.
@leftadrift3920
@leftadrift3920 5 жыл бұрын
Ultex by Dunlop? I believe Hetfield uses them as well as i do...my fave! And will we ever hear an album of your music mr. Grady??
@martinwray7001
@martinwray7001 5 жыл бұрын
Theme from Buck Rogers! I loved that show
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
It's a classic!
@JohnHorneGuitar
@JohnHorneGuitar 5 жыл бұрын
Troy and company: OMG this is so nerdy - and I LOVE IT! So groundbreaking and detail-oriented. And Troy, you keep sounding better and better!
@epsilonvonvehron5820
@epsilonvonvehron5820 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome, it’s about time somebody approached this subject. I use the grey Dunlop Nylon picks for the treble edge, I call it ‘chirp’. The extra treble also seems to give a faster, harder attack to the note. I’ll normally rough up the edge of my picks when they’re new, a few good pick scrapes down the neck helps.
@NarfireVA
@NarfireVA 5 жыл бұрын
Personally jazz 3's and the John Petrucci jazz picks are my go to but the V-picks switchblade with the ghost rim is probably the best abrasive pick imo
@anthonymaloney6838
@anthonymaloney6838 5 жыл бұрын
JP Jazz 3 is my go to as well.
@25shmeckles59
@25shmeckles59 5 жыл бұрын
You're an awesome guitar player! I love the videos!
@Khunvyel
@Khunvyel 4 жыл бұрын
10:32 Nailfiles. The superfine ones that polish the abraded edges of the nails clean to seal them against further ruptures. Works wonders on the picks too :)
@jamesjudd8243
@jamesjudd8243 5 жыл бұрын
Troy, your videos never cease to amaze me, the depth of your thinking is un paralled! I would love to see you dissect Brian Mays tone! I think you are the only man to do a real job of it!
@MRKABOOM12
@MRKABOOM12 5 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, Troy. Each day you keep setting a new height for the bar. Thank you for sharing
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@The1stMrJohn
@The1stMrJohn 5 жыл бұрын
I have tried every guitar pick possible but was never happy with anything, so I decided to make my own picks. it took several years of experimenting with many different materials, and varying the shape of the bit that interacts with the string to find what I wanted. The overall shape design(the area that doesn't touch the string) varied drastically untill I found/developed the one I use now. They are nothing like anything you can buy, and the unusual shape makes them look nothing like a guitar pick from a few feet away. And in the last year I've also developed my own variation of the same pick that attaches to the thumb in such a way that allows you to choose between thumbnail or pick. ;-) Hampshire, in England
@GOTRAVlogs
@GOTRAVlogs 5 жыл бұрын
This video is so nerdy, I had to wear glasses 😄 Great one Troy) I use Stubby 3 mm
@dsddsdd7566
@dsddsdd7566 5 жыл бұрын
A tip: when your tortex pick wears off and becomes too rounded, you can "sharpen" it by sharp knife, scratching both pick's edges with it, without using too much force ( so the knife doesn't dig into a pick, and only shaves of small parts of surface slowly ).
@bigsauce1116
@bigsauce1116 4 жыл бұрын
Troy, the lick at 0:52 is beautiful. Is it some sort of maj7 thing?
@kengihepworth5761
@kengihepworth5761 5 жыл бұрын
When I was young, I filed worn picks with a smooth nail file. Used them all at some stage, stubbys, thumb picks, small, large, odd shapes etc... the only picks that really make a difference are the ceramic ones. As for common types I prefer Dunlop tortex, they don't crack and split like multi coloured celluloid picks. As for metallic and wooden picks, use at your own discretion, I stay away from metal picks, because of the damage they can do.
@migyverman
@migyverman 3 ай бұрын
I guess scratchy and noisy picks have their use. I have always loathed them. I don't even own a single nylon pick. Even the thin clicky picks annoy my ears. I also play acoustic guitar with carbon strings where a rough pick stands out. I sand the edges of the Tortex 1.0+mm picks with 600 grit and then the 2000 grit wet dry sandpaper. Finally stropping them on cloth(i.e. my shorts or jeans). Leaves a smooth shiny rounded "edge".
@NeonShadowsx
@NeonShadowsx 5 жыл бұрын
I use the Dunlop Nylon picks backwards to get extra scratch as the raised letters go over the strings, sounds super chimey
@TobyKBTY
@TobyKBTY 5 жыл бұрын
I wear down average tortex picks crazy fast. I have to buy packs of 74 at a time because I can't stand when it gets all rounded and I lose that scratchy attack! That slight feeling of resistance and scratchy, sharp attack is where it's at for me personally.
@PintsofGuinness
@PintsofGuinness 5 жыл бұрын
ive always just chose my picks based on feel. yellow tortex when playing 10 gauge strings and green tortex for 11 gauge.
@priteshugrankar6815
@priteshugrankar6815 4 жыл бұрын
That acoustic picking you did was simply amazing..
@ar156
@ar156 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting, my favorite is the abraded ultex 1.14, but I sharpen the point a little using sandpaper(its not the same kind of point you get in the sharp ultex, which I find a little hard to play with, specially brand new), it feels the smoothest for me and I get the best control, even though it has less harmonics in the sound
@Fugettaboutit
@Fugettaboutit 4 жыл бұрын
I usually pre-wear the up-pick edge to get that grip on the strong for my up-picking. My first guitar teacher/mentor did that and I adopted it from a pretty young age. Depending on the guitar and amp, it can get rather grating, but it also adds a lot of character/dynamics (think Billy Gibbons). I'd really like to not depend on it, and since I prefer medium picks it can wear the pick away pretty quickly. As the wear increased, random chips or serrations would form and would result in interesting artifacts in playing, but they'd also wear away and depend faster so it soon looked like a beat up saw blade. Those Fender California Cars used to actually wear and tear in the middle of a gig and get caught on the string! Also don't work for me with Tortex or Nylon pics, it has to be the premium tortoise celluloid.
@MCTGFoSheez
@MCTGFoSheez 5 жыл бұрын
I use jazz III's for the play feel but I have been hearing that scratch sound and annoyed by it for a long time and unaware why it is there. I'm checking out the tortex now. Troy is awesome.
@blackie75
@blackie75 5 жыл бұрын
Jazz III XL for me. It seems a little sharper than the standard Jazz III and it wears incredibly well.
@SamwaisGanza
@SamwaisGanza 4 жыл бұрын
i use those too, i hate them straight from the box and i feel like i play worse with new one. But when you use them a while, its great. It's kind of weird.
@chuckm9603
@chuckm9603 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have used many different picks nylon, ultex, tortex. I stick with the fender 351 heavy celuoid pick works the best for me feel and tone. Thank you
@victors8877
@victors8877 5 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing video, thanks for that. Nobody ever talks about this, and I was wondering if I was the only one who found a big difference in using a fresh vs abraded pick. I always find it easier to play with an abraded one, and it has the scratchy gilbert-wise sound that I like. Anybody else here keeps the abraded picks and enjoy using them?
@1thess523
@1thess523 5 жыл бұрын
I gave you a 👍 just for the fact that I've seen a few of your pick videos because I have a hard time finding a pick that feels good in the hand and produces the sound I'm looking for. I play bass and guitar and I'm constantly searching for a pick i can stick with because a pick seems to change. I bought some Tusq picks that sound good yet they wear super fast and become jagged, The Dunlop Orange Tortex feels pretty good and stiff enough but it wears fast and dulls out in sound. I just bought some Dunlop yellow Tortex ghat fell and sound pretty good so far bht i haven't been able to put them through the test yet, i play simple 3 chord punk that's all rhythm, palm muting, and raking so i need one that can take a beating. I need to show my son your videos because he is a worship guitarist and he uses the Dunlop Orange Tortex but he goes through them pretty fast. I just saw you mentioned the Dunlop Ultex which i liked for bass but it's a little too stiff but jt does add a nice bite to my sound 👌
@Eventual420
@Eventual420 5 жыл бұрын
I do things differently, flattening the pick to be more parallel with the string, using the thumb and index for as much of the motion as possible until speed requires me to gravitate in your direction. They’re .60 Snarling Dogs, nice and thin and audible. Previously used Clayton Ultex. With all that, holy shit, you’ve got skills, and it looks like you’re having fun.
@GalaxyStranger01
@GalaxyStranger01 5 жыл бұрын
Buck Rogers rules! That's why I watch this channel!
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
He does!
@DerekJones
@DerekJones 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder what conclusions you'd arrive at from comparing various types of metal picks. Brass, copper, nickel, stainless, etc.
@AleksanderLydkunst
@AleksanderLydkunst 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder if it would be a viable thing to make a vespel pick with a micro-knurled edge like a coin almost, to produce those upper harmonics while lasting much longer than other picks My personal favorite pick is the carbon graphite jazz 3s and for smooth dark stuff, my gravity 3mm stealth
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
Possibly! Or maybe they'd start to wear faster at that point with the extra friction. I don't know, but that's a good question for BlueChip.
@samlee2562
@samlee2562 5 жыл бұрын
The best guitarist I ever knew used to swear by his picks that had been played for at least a month or so, he was very protective of his picks but it was justified cos he was amazing at guitar! ✊ Years later I discovered you can use very fine sandpaper to mimic a month's worth of playing, by then I'd moved onto fingerpicking 🙃
@timpitts9256
@timpitts9256 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. I'd like to see one where you talk about ways of holding a pick,. To me you hold your pick pretty far back on your thumb and allow quite a bit of pick to show. Please talk about that sometime.
@Moodymongul
@Moodymongul 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, thanks. 1:02 - fyi; I've used the same Bluechip TD100 (solely) for the last 12 years (many thousands of hours playing). For electric and acoustic duties (fast picking, heavy strumming ..the lot). It wore a little at the tip (over the first 5 years) but just to a slightly more rounded tip (that actually better suited my picking then the original/unworn tip). After that, it simply seemed to stop wearing down! Its a little freaky actually ..mainly that I haven't lost the darn thing in all that time! :-) As for the polish on the edge of Bluechip picks, you can use a light abrasive paper (or wire wool) to take the 'shine' off if you want (to impart more of an abrasive edge). I didn't change the polish on mine, but if I look at the leading+trailing edges there is a 'cloudy' abrasive look to some spots on the edges (albeit quite minor). In other spots on the edges, the original polish is still there. For electric guitar, I guess one 'fix' (without adjusting the pick edge) would be knocking up the trebles :) Generally, if you want more treble (for acoustic playing) you have to really go to a low gauge BC pick. Due to the rigidity, you can go to a lower gauge and not sacrifice that stiffness to flexibility. i.e maybe a .88 BC has the same flex+treble as a 1.2mm nylon dunlop. Just a guess mind (I use the TD100 for both electric+acoustic ..and it works for me, but I think it would be too thick a pick for most).
@thormusique
@thormusique 5 жыл бұрын
Fascinating material, thanks so much for sharing!
@chriswilliamson8984
@chriswilliamson8984 5 жыл бұрын
Great video! In the past I used Jim Dunlop Teckpicks (made of metal). They wear in a really interesting way. Initially the edges are very square and gritty but the metal is quite soft and it doesn't take long for a smooth bevel to appear. Then the edge gets very thin and a bit ragged like a nylon pick (although the pick stays completely rigid). Your thumb will get a metallic sheen as all this happens. Brass teckpicks don't seem to work the same way - they're very stable but not very interesting to play.
@aitorr5292
@aitorr5292 5 жыл бұрын
Incredible video, as always :)
@Kreln1221
@Kreln1221 5 жыл бұрын
After decades of searching for the ultimate pick, I finally found it a few years ago, and amazingly, it's also fairly cheap. It's the Snarling Dogs Brain Pick, 1.88mm (orange). They have several different gauges, each with it's own color, and the orange ones are the thickest available. I like them for a few important reasons. 1. They have the best grip that I've ever come across, that not only won't slip out of your grip, but will also not slip and twist around while holding it. The fine tiny texture is designed to be just the right size to grip the ridges of your fingerprints, and without any tacky substance added as an adhesive, it simply grips your fingerprint ridges and will not move unless you specifically move it. 2. I don't know what type of plastic it's made of, but it's extremely long wearing, refusing to burr up like the Dunlop nylons, or indent with ridges on the edges like a celluloid Fender, from when you do pick scrapes, or even wear down and deform in size or shape from extended use. I can literally say that when I buy a pack, it's only because I finally lost or gave away my previous ones. After years of using them, I've never used one so long that it wasn't useable anymore, and I can't say that about any other pick. 3. As stated before, they're cheap. They come in a twelve pack in a little tin, with very stupid and silly looking dog graphics, but your audience never has to see the stooped looking tin. On the other hand, you can reuse the tin for "other uses". For example, it's just about the right size to hold a few home rolled tobacco cigarettes so you don't crush them in your pocket. 3. The heaviest gauge offered is bright orange, so on the incredibly slim chance that you do drop it, you can both easily see it, and easily grab it as its grip is so killer. One unfortunate thing about them is that they only offer them in the standard regular pick shape, and no specialized shapes such as the Dunlop Jazz models that a ton of players swear by. It's not a problem for me, as I prefer the standard shape and size, but for someone else who's gotta' have a specific other shape, then that would be a deal breaker. Hopefully, they'll eventually release other shapes, but I wouldn't hold my breath. Anyway..., if you can't tell by this incredibly long rantble, I can't recommend them enough, (as long as you like the standard shape and size that is.) Give em' a try......
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the heads up! It looks like these are actually nylon picks, so the material should behave similarly to something like a Dunlop Jazz III once it begins to wear away. You're saying it doesn't get scratchy like the Jazz III?
@Kreln1221
@Kreln1221 5 жыл бұрын
@@troygrady In fairness, as I'm not a big fan of the Dunlop Jazz shapes, I haven't played any long enough to give an objective opinion on them, but I have used the standard sized Dunlop Nylons, and they are softer and do wear down faster than the Snarling Dogs. (What a stupid name, I gotta' say again.)
@nzSkitzo
@nzSkitzo 5 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! I've been playing Jazz III for about 20 years now and have always preferred the oldest broken in ones. I have never worn out one these pics I only loose them hehe.
@firstlast4046
@firstlast4046 5 жыл бұрын
Huh! Never knew my picking style actually had a name: trailing edge picking. Growing up my friends would always ask why I picked so weird 'cause they were all using leading edge (which I thought was weird). To me, trailing edge creates a tighter, less scratchy sound but also seems to limit picking speed for stuff that requires a high level of technique, it's just so awkward picking at such a weird angle and it kind of limits your speed.
@JuddOakes
@JuddOakes 4 жыл бұрын
I know this is old But Neal Schon and Ola England are some that pick trailing edge as well
@arealdweeb9578
@arealdweeb9578 5 жыл бұрын
I'm just over here getting ideas for new picks to try.
@PauliHalme
@PauliHalme 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Troy, great video! I have a few blue chip picks, and there's one that I always seem to grab as it sounds "better" to me. Now that I looked at it closely, it's the one I've had the longest and I've played quite a bit on it, it sure has some wear to it... So it all makes sense now, thanks! Gotta go wear the other ones in too!
@ReneeNme
@ReneeNme 5 жыл бұрын
Myself, I use Cool Picks - Cat Tongue picks and will use one until it either gets too small to the point of it feeling awkward or I lose it someplace.
@foxyjazzbopper
@foxyjazzbopper 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video on picks👍👍👍
@Daneh97
@Daneh97 5 жыл бұрын
Can we get more information on the different types of Jazz III and maybe the Flow picks?
@JakubDiegoTokaj
@JakubDiegoTokaj 5 жыл бұрын
Man I absolutely love this channel.
@mkkrushmt
@mkkrushmt 5 жыл бұрын
I love the Jazz III fresh but can't stand the worn sound. I'll file them down like I do my nails with a file and high grit sandpaper/micromesh Also this video is stellar content! Keep up the good work!
@lordvalen8133
@lordvalen8133 5 жыл бұрын
Use the Ultex versions.
@DavidL1980
@DavidL1980 Жыл бұрын
this video is amazzzzzzzzzzing! I never would've figured this out
@truescotsman4103
@truescotsman4103 2 жыл бұрын
Listen to the intro to Ain't Talkin 'bout love by Van Halen. A slightly worn celluloid pick. Legendary abrasion!!
@pieroog
@pieroog 3 жыл бұрын
Troy, I would be so incredibly interested in your update on the same topic with Dunlop Flow (tortex / ultex type).
@metalvisionsongcontest7055
@metalvisionsongcontest7055 4 жыл бұрын
Can you teach us those acoustic chord licks? That sounded amazing, almost banjo-like... 😁
@instrumentenfreak
@instrumentenfreak 5 жыл бұрын
Wow, this is so detailed!
@glytch5
@glytch5 5 жыл бұрын
Feel is the reason pick wear bothers me. Worn out picks seem to catch the strings a lot more to me.
@BigCleverName
@BigCleverName 5 жыл бұрын
It should be doing the opposite, have you tried using the same side?
@glytch5
@glytch5 5 жыл бұрын
@@BigCleverName The only thing that worked for me was going to a wear resistant material... I really like celluloid but it wears out extremely fast. Ultex and acrylic seem to work best for me.
@joes1804
@joes1804 5 жыл бұрын
You can rub the edge of a pick on a carpet to sharpen it and smooth out the wearing.
@electricshrapnel4368
@electricshrapnel4368 5 жыл бұрын
Also works on jeans
@martinrosschou
@martinrosschou 5 жыл бұрын
Jeez dude, the depth you will go to, to figur out "why is it that X works.... " ect. Amazing stuff man, thank you!
@charlesmccardle7889
@charlesmccardle7889 5 жыл бұрын
I love how they're playing the book Rogers theme song in the background
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
It's a classic!
@briandriscoll9848
@briandriscoll9848 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Buck!
@TheMasonator777
@TheMasonator777 5 жыл бұрын
Why not use sandpaper and steel wool to refinish the edge? Takes about 2 minutes.
@frostyriffs
@frostyriffs 5 жыл бұрын
Anything but nylon. I play with the rounded edges of any pick though. Hate the excessive treble unless doing some Edge riffs then I grab a Cat Tongue to get that sound.
@perihelion7798
@perihelion7798 5 жыл бұрын
I make my own picks, so I made one out of carbon fiber. Super stiff--amazing attack. Unfortunately it wore very quickly, so Fail. I now use thin Delrin sheets, as it has very good durability. Hint: if you use a pick punch device, rub the edge of the new pick on some Scotchbrite pad for a few seconds. It polishes the edge and leaves a nice, smooth surface. Interesting videos on the picks. Thanks.
@The1stMrJohn
@The1stMrJohn 5 жыл бұрын
I make my own also, see my comment I left a few minutes ago 😁
@perihelion7798
@perihelion7798 5 жыл бұрын
@@The1stMrJohn I've tried many, many substances to make picks. I believe that my favorite for tone and durability is Delrin.
@The1stMrJohn
@The1stMrJohn 5 жыл бұрын
@@perihelion7798 I'm just looking up the different names for various plastics, as I don't really know much about plastics chemistry. I use plexiglass/flexiglass, which is easy to cut with decent scissors, and I shape them with small a metal file and emery boards. It is very stiff and shiney and slips easily across strings, but they possibly could be improved on. I just found a company that can do sheets of many types of plastic and might give them a ring. Cheers from Hampshire UK
@perihelion7798
@perihelion7798 5 жыл бұрын
@@The1stMrJohn Here's some chemistry for you: acetal homopolyme or acetal copolymer. I think the latter is a bit more durable. 'Delrin' is a brand name.
@ShredTraining
@ShredTraining 5 жыл бұрын
Your work ethic is outstanding. Great topics for technique nerds
@johncfoster7949
@johncfoster7949 5 жыл бұрын
Buy the pick that feels the best and wears the least and EQ accordingly. I like Wegens and Blue Chips.
@liorangel7511
@liorangel7511 5 жыл бұрын
Hey troy, because you are investigating a lot of picks I really want to know what is your go to pick
@arttukoivisto5190
@arttukoivisto5190 5 жыл бұрын
I used a dunlop 2mm for two years. You get used to the pick changing shape until it gets too small and it's time to invest in a new one
@JoanGradosNitus
@JoanGradosNitus 5 жыл бұрын
nice video!!! thanks to this material!!
@paulkielt9301
@paulkielt9301 5 жыл бұрын
Standard cheap picks are just good for the garbage can! You should try stone plectrums. Everyone has its own characteristics, depending of the material. Moreover they can last forever, unless you smash them to the floor. Your sound can change from pick to pick, even if you leave your amp potentiometers untouched. I don't understand people that stay in their confident area without experimenting anything!
@vitorauseo854
@vitorauseo854 Жыл бұрын
Hey Troy. Not sure if anyone ever asked you , but at the end of the day….what is YOUR fav pick? If I had to guess based on videos and usage I have observed it is the regular nylon (red) jazz iii????
@boggsty
@boggsty 5 жыл бұрын
I love your videos so far. But my problem is quite the opposite, the more the pick is used, it sounds more and more dead. I'd love to know If it is my technique or something else. BTW the chirp you speak about is probably the most important thing when it comes to distorted guitar tones
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
We did a whole chapter on chirp for the product. We haven't put it up here just because we thought abrasion was a topic of wider interest but yes, I have always heard the chirp and there are times when I specifically don't like it and choose lower chirp picks to avoid it.
@gum6169
@gum6169 5 жыл бұрын
Ultex Jazz lll 2.0mm
@enigma-g5549
@enigma-g5549 5 жыл бұрын
i like jazz IIIs but they are too small for me. was using the john patrucci sig picks as they are slightly bigger, but i like a sharper edge... switched to earnie ball prodigies 1.5mm and absolutely love them. they are like the petrucci sigs just sharper.
@Liyingbemo
@Liyingbemo 5 жыл бұрын
cool educational video 1.5mm hard pick works for me, they last longer
@joecarosiello4672
@joecarosiello4672 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to be a great guitarist. I struggle with going backwards with 3 note scales. Forward no worries backwards I suck. I have tried placement on fret board, different picking patterns. Could you do a vid on how to play successful backward 3 note per string scales. I hope I'm working this right. Thank you I enjoy your vids and info you put out
@jeremiasdrumond7457
@jeremiasdrumond7457 5 жыл бұрын
Is that a Martin acoustic guitar? They always sound amazing!
@АнтонКузнецов-и8ю
@АнтонКузнецов-и8ю 5 жыл бұрын
These freq. characteristics were from waveform of released string only (after string slips) or whole waveform with chirp etc?
@erichartwell6792
@erichartwell6792 Жыл бұрын
Do one with the white fang please 🤘🏻💯🎶
@FG-vp6id
@FG-vp6id 2 жыл бұрын
my picks get so worn off that after like 2 weeks i cannot alternate pick with them properly, its slower and sounds bad and feels bad idk what to do
@Khunvyel
@Khunvyel 4 жыл бұрын
15:14 great thing when you know a lefty guitarist (or a righty if you're a lefty) who uses similar pick technique and same picks. Trading the worn down picks means you're abrading them "sharp" again :D
@TayG-y9q
@TayG-y9q 5 жыл бұрын
I love the song you were playing at around 1:50. Is it something you came up with or someone else’s song?
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
That's the roll pattern from "Beaumont Rag", which is a bluegrass standard. I don't even know the whole tune, but I learned the pattern as an exercise because it is a classic application of crosspicking technique. As a result I often tool around with it to create other phrases.
@1thess523
@1thess523 5 жыл бұрын
Hey what Amp are you getting your overdrive sound from because i like it 👌
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
Cornford Hellcat
@stewmcleod7315
@stewmcleod7315 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome Tony.
@leedemkiw6085
@leedemkiw6085 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a Blue Chip Jazz 60 about a year ago. Still no wear. Sounds and feels the same as the day I bought it.
@andyh0010
@andyh0010 5 жыл бұрын
Wow and I thought it was the amp and the pickups and the wood and the speakers and the cabinet and the pedals and "the fingers" that effected my sound..... now I've got to get the right picks as well !!🤣
@danielnodland4072
@danielnodland4072 5 жыл бұрын
Hey Troy, do you plan on comparing picks made of special material to more regular picks too? Picks like Dragonheart picks or purple plectrum's picks are the ones I have in mind.
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
We haven't, but there was no way we were going to get every make and model out there. Instead, we tried to get at least one of all the important categories. Among "fancy" materials, we included BlueChip as an example of hard smooth materials, and also materials that never wear away. And we put in the turtle materials as examples of textured materials. To the extent that other materials are hard and smooth, they will probably behave similarly to the BlueChips. Once you get in the ballpark of the same physical characteristics, when you put things side by side, the sonic differences are small. It's geometry and playing technique (degree of edge picking, etc.) that really matters from that point on.
@mattfleming2287
@mattfleming2287 5 жыл бұрын
This explains why I like using silver picks. The increased treble content somewhat masks the pick chirp. Love you work, guys! Thanks for making my favorite subject fascinating and adding enough science so Imlearn
@merttalay9702
@merttalay9702 5 жыл бұрын
You re a right hand perve😂I love your videos.
@foxmoulder7724
@foxmoulder7724 5 жыл бұрын
sportin a wintersun shirt in the intro 🤘
@TAMPLAYS
@TAMPLAYS 4 жыл бұрын
Please tell me what scales you play on 5:39 !!!
@BigSh00tsie
@BigSh00tsie 5 жыл бұрын
Is this stuff on KZbin a shortened version of what you get if you join cracking the code, or is that all completely different content? i Guess what i'm asking is, is all the stuff on cracking the code eventually available on KZbin? if so, what's the advantage to joining? (my guess is there's more content when joining)
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
No, not everything we make gets to KZbin. The majority of our interviews and instructional material is on our site. Our primary focus this year has been instructional. We’ve learned a lot in the last three or four years about how technique works and we want to boil that down into simple lessons that eliminate the pain of having to struggle with picking technique in particular.
@mdavis2703
@mdavis2703 5 жыл бұрын
Troy ,what's your go to pick for shred type stuff? Thanks for the great videos.
@troygrady
@troygrady 5 жыл бұрын
I like them all! 351, Jazz III and 346 are the three main categories of designs in my mind and all have their merits.
@Cestariarts
@Cestariarts 5 жыл бұрын
Man, you're awesome playing
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