The FASTEST Gaming Laptop CPU is Here! 7945HX3D 25 Game Test

[@JarrodsTech]

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[@alchemy2688]

Can you donate one to me I’m from Ghana I need one badly

[@johndoh5182]

Hey dude really good job on this review. I've been waiting for this comprehensive test to see where today's laptops are in gaming and everything else. There certainly isn't a "loser" with any of these laptops, I mean the ability to game and do production has improved SO MUCH over the last 3 years it's ridiculous. I think if I were going by price I get the 3D part. If I had specific workloads that I'm always running I'm picking which does best there if the difference is worth the cost, otherwise I'm still going with the 3D part.

[@infoparkhall]

Do you expect such additional cash for games to appear in mid range processors?

[@Dgnkrty]

can you do a review of the 2023 HP Victus 16 with the ryzen 5 7640hs and the 4060 8gb gpu please? i am very interested in your thoughts about the updated victus 16. i think the problem with the hinges is also gone. ive got one now and i got to say im very pleased with the machine. but id like to know the opinion and of course the benchmarks from a pro.

[@spacegas7346]

It appears that most of these CPUs are GPU limited with those Mobile 4090s. Have you tried or might you test using an external Desktop 4090 GPU and Monitor to push the CPU to its limits with the same laptops. I believe that may show how capable they all are. Nice Video by the way. i always enjoy seeing where AMD is going in the Mobile space. Hope there is an All AMD roundup soon to see where they stand compared to last year or at least since January and how they can improve. Thanks for all the great content!

[@poemontyperacer]

jarrod is slowly disappearing behind more and more laptops in these videos

[@JarrodsTech]

I literally had to put the table lower so you could still see me

[@NaumanAsif]

​@@JarrodsTechI hope to see the unlowered version as a community post if possible 😂. Amazing and informative content as always.

[@Ishan.khanna]

Next video by laptops tech ft. Jarrod

[@schizofennec]

Drowning in 4090 ROG Laptops is a good problem to have :)

[@MrBearTuga]

🤣😂

[@cameronbosch1213]

If only this beast CPU was put into the 2023 design and not the 2020 design...

[@vali69]

It's asus, what do you expect? They'll probably get around to doing it next year or something, they're always slow like this.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@vali69 Nah. They just hate AMD now.

[@mcslender2965]

Let's hope Lenovo will make use of this chip

[@vali69]

@@cameronbosch1213 nah if you pay attention they're doing them in some sort of rotation, this year amd is on the down, and intel is on the up, same with gpus. Next year might be different.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@vali69 Did you watch the video? AMD clearly is ahead in terms of raw CPU power, although they are indeed behind in terms of GPU power.

[@libiroli]

My takeaway from this video is that the real beast is Jarrod. What an effort!! Your work is greatly appreciated not just by consumers, but also people in the industry and investors. Thank you.

[@JarrodsTech]

💪 It did take my partner and I about a week to test everything, so I'm glad you enjoyed it :)

[@abdulcelilarslan6003]

You're covering every single detail that I can't even imagine. This review must've taken you more than a week. Holy cow... Props to your hard work and dedication ❤

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks! It did take my partner and I about a week or so to test everything.

[@doge-of-venice]

Wow! What a monumental undertaking of a video. You deserve a lot more views than other tech review channels like LTT considering the level of effort which goes into each of your videos.

[@oluwadarejoshua8595]

1 man team with accurate results vs a whole team with errors

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks! @@oluwadarejoshua8595 Just to be clear we're 2 people for the last year or two :) my girlfriend helps with testing.

[@Tom_Quixote]

How about comparing a $1000 gaming laptop with a $1000 desktop computer? I'm wondering how big the performance gap is these days.

[@judsondematosfernandes467]

Nice!

[@kodakblack531]

A

[@steph_on_yt]

@@kodakblack531 I'm done with the laptop life but there's no way a $1000 PC is beating a $2500 laptop.

[@kodakblack531]

@@steph_on_yt hell yeah there is especially if you know how to build a pc!

[@woozykoala159]

@@steph_on_yt The cheapest 4090 laptop is the HP Omen 17 which sits around $2800. Even if we considered this, you could match the performance with a brand new barebones AM4 build with a used 6950xt at $1000. You’d have a 5600 w/ stock cooler, B550 mobo, 32GB 3600 MHz RAM, 1TB SSD, B Tier 750W PSU, and a CC560 case. Used 6950xt go at about $550 right now so it’s pretty doable and you’re only barely bottlenecking with that cpu at 1440p. This wouldn’t include the monitor but I’d argue if you’re spending an extra $300 on the laptop for this comparison then you can use that for desktop peripherals. The 4080 mobile is even easier to match as its desktop counterpart is around an RX 6800. These go for $430 brand new and even cheaper used. I’d wager you could include a high refresh 1440p 27” VA panel in that $1000 budget if you’re smart with your other parts. I imagine this we become even easier after the new RDNA3 cards (7700xt and 7800xt) are released and the older generation gets even cheaper.

[@steph_on_yt]

Impressive performance when it's working properly. Too bad games don't always run on the 3D V-Cache CCD, and there isn't a more sensible 8-core 7745HX3D model available (not that it would make a lot of sense on a $2500 laptop anyway). Oh well, shouldn't be a problem for hardcore enthusiasts I guess.

[@shamsielshahar120]

And people who has lots of money.

[@gabrielv.4358]

you mean $25000

[@ForgoMangi]

Your reviews are awesome as always Jarrod’s tech. Have you heard of the recently announced Lenovo Legion 9i, guess you were right on them planning to release it all along since most of the features of last year’s legion 7(2022) were returned to this legion 9i lineup. I’m really excited on looking forward for you to review the laptop 😊

[@JarrodsTech]

Thanks! They told me a few weeks ago they're trying to get us a review unit

[@Peizxcv]

Really? An ultra class Legion to kick all other gaming laptop's butt? Nice

[@TeeWadeG]

@@Peizxcvthat is what the legion 7/7i was in 2021/2022

[@Peizxcv]

@@TeeWadeG The 2021/2022 Legion 7 Pro was the best gaming laptop but still too heavy and the screen not perfect for creative works. The. Re Legion 9 is nearly 1 lb. lighter and have a screen that’s perfect for gaming and creative work.

[@jimalfauraq388]

When I heard words "fair comparison" you are one of the best mate, thanks for the effort🎉

[@southlondontransport]

Great video jarrod! Seeing that the 7945HX3D's great in terms of leads at 1080p so i think it would be great as an E-Sports Gaming laptop for example in a Gigabyte Aorus laptop since they still use 1080p 360hz screens in some laptops.

[@Gc7788m]

Thanks Jarrod and partner!

[@eliot9217]

Thanks for giving us all the content creation benchmarks!

[@supremacy98]

Oh so the 7945HX3D is the mobile version of the 7950X3D, where the v-cache is located on one of the CCDs. As mentioned, not all games might run on the CCD with the v-cache, not making use of the extra v-cache present which we’ve seen on the 7950X3D. I hope they’ll make a 7800X3D mobile equivalent, like a 7940HS3D or 7950HX3D, which will be cheaper and more popular amongst gamers

[@iLegionaire3755]

Best Laptop reviewer on KZbin! No contest.

[@sumawardhen198]

"these are not cheap gaming laptops, so it's worth spend extra minutes to do some research." You care about us viewer a lot. I very appreciate your videos as it's very detail and to the point, Thank you for your videos.

[@tommy10436]

Amazing content. Amazing delivery. Love to see your sub count increasing every time I see a new vid. Amazing, man.

[@JarrodsTech]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@QuantumConundrum]

I really like the inclusion of Matlab in the testing, many gaming laptops find dual purposes :) However, there be dragons here: historically, Matlab had to release a patch to leverage avx instructions properly with AMD. Prior to this, people had to follow special steps to get Ryzen/AMD chips to their expected performance. I don't really know the state of things nowadays, but I advise extra care for Matlab+AMD. I do not know if the performance difference in the video could be improved with special patches, etc. PS: Based on a quick search things got fixed in 2020? Anyhow, just a warning.

[@yoiqsrambadian2444]

V-cache lead a significant margin on lower resolution. It'll interesting if AMD pair V-cache on U-series for handheld devices.

[@TheDarksideFNothing]

Do they make U series laptops with discrete graphics? I'd expect you'd be heavily GPU limited in most cases with an iGPU anyway, so it probably wouldn't matter.

[@yoiqsrambadian2444]

@@TheDarksideFNothing I don't know whether V-cache more efficient on lower wattage, but if it's efficient enough I think more power could be shifted to the iGPU.

[@TheDarksideFNothing]

@@yoiqsrambadian2444 my understanding is that V-Cache doesn't have as much advantage at lower clock speeds. Basically that the benefit of V-Cache is primarily in allowing better IPC scaling at high clocks. The higher the clock the more the extra cache actually benefits. If that's the case it could really limit the utility of V-Cache on U series. Though I'd love to see some testing in that regard. I wonder too if instead of putting V-Cache on the CPU, if they could instead attach some kind of cache to the iGPU. Perhaps a big cache pool could alleviate some of the issues with DDR5 bandwidth/latency for GPU tasks. I could see something like that being especially beneficial for the really big APUs like in the consoles or upcoming Strix Halo.

[@steph_on_yt]

There's no point in putting V-Cache on a heavily power-constrained and GPU-limited handheld. The CPU in the Z1 Extreme is already way overkill for the small amount of CUs in the APU.

[@TheDarksideFNothing]

@@steph_on_yt as a tangent to OPs idea, I wonder if adding a big chunk of cache to the GPU could be beneficial in reducing the penalties of working with DDR5 instead of a GDDR memory pool. It could be more expensive than it's worth on U series APUs, but I wonder about big APUs like upcoming Strix Halo.

[@RexGeezy]

Hi Jarrod can i ask which laptop is better to bought? My options are Legion Pro 5i or Asus Strix G16? Both are 4060 and i7. Thank you for your answer 😁

[@tonyk4447]

The downside is ROG still hasn't upgraded the AMD version of scar No good screen, no 16:10, no third fan, light bar is attached to the bottom Why😢😢😢

[@M4K1N4]

Hi Jarrod, I have a question. For the 4K tests, did you use an external monitor? Thanks.

[@levi_exiled8579]

You are one of the best tec, laptop KZbinrs. As a laptop gamer, I thank you for your content.

[@CristhianTR]

I didn’t understand one thing. To take advantage of the FPS boost with the Ryzen 9 3D , do I need an external SSD drive? And should I run the games from that external drive? What does “extra cache” means? Do I need to install any additional device to the laptop?

[@zaiyaiyai]

No, you dont need to install games on external SSD, the x3d in the CPU name means the processor has AMD's 3D V Cache technology, which means it has 128MB L3 Cache in the processor. It is more L3 Cache than other CPUs, for example i9 14900HX only has 36MB L3 Cache, it means there will be a performance increase of applications like games that can take advantage of it.

[@hammomy]

But how about the temperature?

[@richusomy3368]

I like the gaming benchmarks bar chart you put up in most videos with numbers comparing every laptop you review. It would be nice if you have that data on your website and it’d help your viewers go back and check the website whenever they want.

[@drew2626]

I’d love to see 7945HX vs 7945HX3D vs 7950X vs 7950X3D comparison, all in a desktop for even odds of course

[@miroa3950]

There isn't 7950x laptop cpu. 7945 is the 7950 for laptops.

[@aisjdoaidf1490]

very nice review. 1 request/question. Test all these versions with faster ddr5 memory (something like 7200 or even 8000 if that's what's hot now,or whatever works best) and compare the differences with these results. This will show us at least 2 things, that is scaling with better memory on both platforms and how much of a role better memory plays for the extra bulky 3d v-cache (since if I remember correctly 3d v-cache versions didn't really care about memory speeds at least for desktop (I mean it hasn't existed for laptops until now anyway so)). This should shed more light on the nature of 3d v-cache. PS. Hopefully Jarrod will see this comment. It's not much work you have half done so you can copy paste these results. This is an issue that must be addressed at all costs xd

[@BarikAzka]

sadly you cant get high memory speed in ddr5 for laptop (at the moment) unless using the lpddr5 ram which mean non upgradeble ram

[@Zebra_Paw]

The 3D version has to lock itself at 89 Celcius because the 3D V-cache doesn't like heat. That makes you miss out on performance in thermally limited scenarios

[@daweitao2668]

Unless I missed it an averaging of 1% lows across all the games would be nice. Seems just as pertinent as overall averages

[@doubleshot9448]

uXTU doesn’t work with dragon range at the moment, so tweaking the clocks and offsets is all on Lenovo. In their bios there is a UV offset option, dropping it to a -3 to -5 all core offset multiplier, will improve temps btw. Even tho they are meant to run hot and stay pushing, playing starfield on mine, with a -4uv in bios, it didnt throttle once according to HWINFO, max temp was 94 average temp was 82, this was on balance mode in the legion software. I have a 4080 model, I was averaging 80-100 fps, when I turned it on performance mode it still did not throttle but did get to 100c on the die however the individual cores never went above 80-90 or just looking at the CCD die 1 (because atarfield likes core 5 🤷‍♂️ lol.) it didn’t even hit 100 even though the game was running on ccd1 avg temp was 86 and even cooler on ccd2. Same with the ccd die avg. You can get the temps even cooler if you go into custom mode and with a reasonable fairly quiet fan curve and power limits, get the temps down even more. I almost returned it at one point cuz I was only looking at the cpu die max alll the time and not avg or current. Also boost clocks can stil hit 5.6 with the UV. I have a 7i on order for the same price I paid for this one with the same specs (literally exact same) except Intel version, and I am now gonna cancel that order, they are on back order but I managed to snag it at 1999 with 4080 32gb 1tb which is what I paid for the AMD model. I don’t think I want to return the PRo anymore and am going to cancel the 7i order.

[@jjboybeamer]

Another great review by the man the myth the legend 🎉🎉🎉

[@casperellison5729]

I can’t tell if Jarrod enjoyed doing all the testing, measuring and encoding all of the data. The nerd and gamer in me thinks he loved it all the way, but the practical me is shaking my head, hehehe. Eitherway, super great video and lays it out clear for an informed decision. Budget be damned.

[@JarrodsTech]

It was fun at the start, but after the first two I just wanted to move on, and that is with my partner also working on the game testing.

[@socialanimal2061]

the effort you put into this video is amazing, you deserve more man

[@JarrodsTech]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@DarthChewie]

Thank you for raising awareness about the CCD issue of games running on the wrong cores. If anything, I'm a bit surprised that AMD chose to release a 16-core 3D v-cache chip exclusively in a dedicated gaming laptop where the extra CCD with no v-cache has little to no benefit for gaming. If AMD was going to release a 3D v-cache mobile part aimed at gamers, and subsequently limit it's availability to a single SKU from 1 vendor, it seems like they would have been better off releasing an 8-core version rather than 16-core, where they could avoid all issues of games running on the wrong CCD. My only explanation for AMD's choice to go with a 16-core variant would be for the purposes of deceptive marketing wherein they could still claim the 5.4GHz clock speed, rather than whatever lower clock speed the 3D CCD can reach. AMD's marketing materials don't include that clock speed, but based on the drop in clock speed on desktop between the 7700X (5.4GHz) and 7800X3D (5.0GHz), it's safe to assume the 3D v-cache CCD on the 7945HX3D likely also maxes at 5.0GHz, which wouldn't look as impressive on marketing materials and can deceive most consumers. Obviously, for multicore workloads it makes a huge difference, but on a laptop with strong a gamer-aesthetic design marketed towards gamers, it seems like an odd choice. Gamers have no need for the extra 8-cores, and those who work with heavy multi-core workloads would be better off with the higher multi-core performance of the non-3D 7945HX. Even if those professionals want gaming performance, just the fact that the regular 7945HX is close to the margin of error of the X3D part (especially at 1440p & 4k) and then also on-par with the Intel flagship 13980HX, they could be happy knowing they aren't leaving any meaningful performance on the table for gaming, while getting noticeably better performance in their professional workloads. The trade-off doesn't make much sense.

[@ryanvtec3885]

crazy to have a 16 core 32 thread cpu clocking that high with 3d cache on a dayum laptop. what a world we live in

[@Thewickedjon]

Running cinnebench and seeing my strix g15's 5900hx FLAT OUT DESTROY my desktop's i9 9900k was a real eye opener for me. One day during a live game with friends my desktop decided to BSOD , so i just plugged my monitor, keyboard & mouse to my laptop, and jumped right back in and finished the game. What I noticed was that , IN GAME, (what I use my PC for) i felt absolutely NO difference between the strix vs the i9 desktop... both ran the game perfectly. The difference was I could unplug my laptop and take it w/me whenever i wanted... From that day fwd, FOR ME, DESKTOP hardware = HOMELAB SERVER hardware.

[@BlimpChimps]

I may be 10 months to late for you to see this Jarrod, but I'll go for it anyway. Great video! Top of my list is when you do the average of all games fps, could you add the average of the 1% lows. The 1% lows are the most important stat imo, thanks! Also not to be too needy, but I greatly appreciate you having Microsoft flight simulator on all your channels laptop tests, it being a cpu heavy game. Is there any chance of you getting 1 or 2 more cpu heavy games to add to the stats lists in the future? I would like to see DayZ, as well as Escape from Tarkov - on the map called "Streets" (the hardest map for hardware to run smoothly) Thanks again, I'm binging all your content!

[@cemokan4629]

Hi Jarrod, which mode did you use for the tests? Turbo mode or performance? CPU clock speeds seems low to me. I have rog g16 with i9 13980hx, and i expect to see the clock speeds over 4000 with turbo mode. By the way, mine has rtx4070. So, i don't know. Mayb, gpu effects the cpu clock speeds

[@jonjon3829]

if you manually underclock the limit on the non 3d cores by a few hundred mhz you can ensure the games run on the 3d cache cores.

[@TbZwtf]

Great video Jarrod , have a good weekend !

[@miklaus2873]

Can scar 17 X3D be undervolted in BIOS? Or Windows? Are there gains of some sort? Also can you change RAM and put faster ones? How much Is 4090 overclockable?

[@AmirAli38555]

Hello, which do you think I should buy between Legion 5 2022 with 12700h and RTX 3070 and Acer Predator Helios Neo 16 with 13700HX and RTX4060?

[@worldcitizen-p5x]

Hi Jarrod. I follow your videos a lot. What about VR gaming? Will the 3D Ryzen perform better that the non-3D or the Intel i9 from the Rog 18? Thank you.

[@swjeisj]

for coding and graphic design which laptop should i buy? HP victus (16GB DDR4, i7 12650h, RTX 3050ti ) or Dell G15 (16GB DDR5, Ryzen 7-6800H, RTX 3050Ti ) I want quality and long-lasting

[@Ahtisham]

17:02 Seems like 7945HX3D and 4090 is the best combo for Blender

[@d1kgaws12]

Wish this processor was on more laptops.

[@cashmoney2159]

Jarrod how much extra money should I spend on an I3 12th gen laptop over an amd Ryzen 3 Radeon 610M igpu one?

[@jeromemayhew6085]

always dropping the right vids at the right time.

[@Games_and_Tech]

Testing AMD with a 4800 ram kit isnnot good, why you didn't use 5600 or at least 5200 for all of them?

[@technologicalelite8076]

12:01 Unsure if you can do this in Windows 10, bit on Windows 11, can't you just go to the details tab on Task Manager? Anywho, hoping to this and a lot of other stuff on a Black Friday deal!

[@jcpoblete156]

Hello jarrod..sorry to bother u..but can i just ask u about what gaming laptop would u recommend to me..preferably an asus..im thinking about the tuf f15 4050 or above..is it worth it?btw d price that here n d philppines is 1900$..& i think its over priced..or do have other laptops that u would recommnd but not super expensive..tnx man...

[@NadirHalli-rl5xu]

Hi I just bought the acer predator helios 300 with inteli9-11900h and rtx 3070(2021 version) And i found the reviews that you did about this laptop but with another cpu(i7 -11800h) So is this pc is still bad even with the i9 11 gen or its better then the other one to see if gonna keep it or return it What d'u all think ?

[@Problz]

@Jarrod'sTech what is a good CPU and GPU combination for AutoCAD and programming used in Windows and Linux os, Also if Could you recommend some laptops.

[@muhammadalvinyufianofirdau9591]

If ryzen 9 7945hx3d mounted on aorus 17x pair with rtx 4090+double of usb c and fix the bubble flex keyboard nah what a monster laptop🔥

[@pogibear9743]

Awesome and meticulous work as always! Just a quick question, will you also be reviewing and comparing handheld pcs soon? I want to see how good the Legion Go is compared to the ROG Ally. I love my Deck but Starfield's performance is making me want to switch.

[@lenbata]

Just placed an order of Asus Scar 17 7945hx3d 4090 today 10/03/2023 $3,699.99 plus California tax

[@Combatjunkie]

Hey! How are you liking it, eyeing this laptop as it’s the fastest gaming laptop available even today in 2024, especially for unity games like rust and tarkov.

[@jayzed2000]

I'm late to the party, but wouldn't it make more sense to just increase the L2 cache to 32MB (like Intel did) and split the extra L3 3D V-cache between the 2 CCD's going forward? That way it would be the same if it ran on one CCD or the other, or both I'm a hardware newbie, I mostly focus on software but now that I saw this, I just had this question in mind. Great video.

[@michaelbyrd4004]

Thanks again Jarrod.

[@Just_An_Ignacio]

If i don't remember wrong, X3D CPUs use Xbox Game bar for the thread scheduling, even like this is not perfect anyways.

[@heyyyyooooo]

7945x3D is GOD. 7945x3D take a %10 more fps than 7945x and 13980hx. Really its crazy great

[@stevenolson3977]

Experientially, probably not worth the extra money. If you are already getting over 100 FPS (aside from hyper competitive settings), what difference does another 10-15 fps make? Would be interesting to see an 8 core CPU with 3D cache paired with an RTX 4060 or 4070.

[@MKVNiX]

I need help here, (Both displays are Full HD +) Should I buy the Scar g18 with i7-13650HX/ RTX4060- 8GB/ 16GB DDR5 (2 x 8GB slot)/ 18.0 WUXGA WA 165hz, 300NITS/ Or Should I buy the Scar g16 with i7-13650HX/ RTX4050- 6GB/ 16GB DDR5 (2 x 8GB slot)/ 16.0 WUXGA-165HZ, 250NITS/ I would like to carry around the laptop, the 18 inch model feels like gaint but has a better gpu or should i get the g16 with lower tier gpu. I need honest opinions. I cannot afford QHD on both the g16 and g18 beacuse QHD displays comes with a higher tier cpu and gpu.

[@justabeardedguythatisahero9848]

Jarrod the new legion lenovo 9i is there ? did you get your hands on a one ?

[@darkmessiah9566]

How is the 7945hx3d for emulations? Like pcsx2, rcps3, dolphin?

[@rileyhance318]

a mobile version of the 7800x3d with only 8cores would make way more sense in a gaming laptop. i have a 7700x in my desktop and never once felt like i needed more cores

[@ricky4673]

Until they put a desktop 4090 in the laptop, it isnt worth the vcache. Maybe one manufacturer will do this one day.

[@rileyhance318]

@@ricky4673 considering you get 50% uplift in games while using less power it seems like a no brainer for a laptop. a desktop 4090 will never work due to power and cooling limitations of a portable device.

[@steph_on_yt]

@@rileyhance318 Dragon Range is a poor choice for anything other than bulky desktop replacements because of the atrocious battery life. That's the main reason why the only V-Cache CPU available right now is the top-end 7945HX3D. Manufacturers aren't going to put an 8-core CPU in their very expensive desktop replacement machines.

[@ricky4673]

@@rileyhance318 you must be a 1080p gamer lol. Im a 4k gamer dude. Also, there have been solutions for that. They just havnt been released commercially.

[@rileyhance318]

@@ricky4673 I have a desktop I built myself with a 7700x with 360aio, strix 3080 ti, lg 27inch 1440p 240hz oled monitor. for laptops I currently have a legion 7 with an 8 core 5000 ryzen chip and a 3060. I have a seperate micro pc on my lg oled tv in living room for steam streaming from my main rig if I want to play in 4k, both main rig and micro are running on 2.5gb internal network so latency is minimal. 4k on a desktop monitor is for the most part wasted unless you are using a 40inch monitor which for how close you sit to it is also a waste. 1080p for laptops, 1440p for desktop, and 4k for couch. wouldnt have it any other way

[@Truth___]

Hi Jarrod one question why don't you show Valorant for FPS comparison I mean that is a CPU intensive game and would have been a good fit for this video as it's all about CPU. Also a large number of people play that game

[@baboka2616]

Yeah these laptops are nice and all, but i wonder how many people actually buy it. I would like that you cover the mid range to budget options a bit more.

[@s871-c1q]

Agreed. Spending like 3+k USD on a laptop has got to be really niche.

[@TheMarkhhuk]

Great comparison as always, including the information we need to know :-)

[@JWbabyshark]

Is there a big difference between the 7945HX3D VS 7950HX3D ??

[@DeadlyDragon935]

seems like a lot of the examples were gpu limited because of how beastly the cpus are.

[@lrmcatspaw1]

I hope we will get soon a 8 core 3d-v cache cpu from amd for laptops.

[@ramsyla460]

What Ie have to chose Ie have a choice 4090 or the 4080 for the 3D with want ? Ie have to take for gaming

[@thisispatrick9057]

Hi guys, Please help me decide to choose between : 1. Acer helios neo 16 with (rtx 4050, i5 13500Hx, 16Gb Ram ddr5) 2. MSI CYBORG 15 with (rtx 4050, i7 13620h, 16Gb Ram ddr5) 3. LENOVO LEGION PRO 5 2022 with (rtx 3050Ti, i7 12700H, 16gb ram ddr5). Which one should I buy for the long-term use considering the build quality and the specs above? I'm a data analyst but sometime needed to use app like photoshop and want to be able doing some gaming to relax?😅

[@seang9764]

Really wish he would have talked about future protecting. UE5 games are just starting to hit the market, and I expect will be optimized for 3D chips. I expect the 3d to make a bigger difference as time goes along. Would have been nice to have a discussion about if you need to worry about it, and if so when? 2 years from now or 4 when your going to replace it anyway........ I don't want to overspend but I don't want to buy something that I'll want to replace in a year.

[@setiaciel749]

Noice... Extra FPS with RGB enabled... 😮

[@JarrodsTech]

I forgot to compare that, time to delete the video

[@vladpubg7687]

What shoul i choose lenovo legion 5i pro with intel i7 13700HX ryx 4060 or acer nitro 5 with intel i7 12650H rtx 4060

[@santiniperico8627]

$300 more for just 64mb of L3 cache is cRaZy IMO, they couldn't even get both CCDs with the extra cache?!

[@MoxHex]

I wonder how this compares to the Titan GT77 HX for being a mobile workstation.

[@JarrodsTech]

The 13980HX results should be close to that.

[@steph_on_yt]

Ironically, as a mobile workstation, the Titan with the i9 would be the better pick if you plan on doing some light productivity on-the-go. Dragon Range chips like the 7945HX have atrocious battery life (blame the I/O die), and only really shine in terms of efficiency when doing heavy work while plugged into the wall.

[@MoxHex]

@@JarrodsTech thanks for the update.

[@TheDarksideFNothing]

Great video! As usual, 3D v-cache benefits vary wildly from game to game. If you spend a lot of time on games that benefit then its probably worth spending a little extra to get v-cache. If you dont it's probably not.

[@osamamamdouh9888]

Nice review Jarrod .. Are u gonna review the predator this year ?

[@telephoto]

isn’t that a film?

[@osamamamdouh9888]

@@telephoto No it's the Acer predator laptop

[@cameronbosch1213]

16:55 It may be the use of a kernel that doesnt yet have support for V-Cache for Ubuntu 23.04.

[@JarrodsTech]

Yeah possibly, but given the other workloads didn't matter either in Windows, meh.

[@cameronbosch1213]

@@JarrodsTech Oh, I'm not saying it would have had a difference, but given that the Linux kernel in use on Ubuntu 23.04 was released before the V-Cache was announced, it may be more optimized for other things with Ubuntu 23.10.

[@deilusi]

We can also safely assume list of games and programs benefiting from a lot of cache will only grow as intel is also going that route, and they are thinking about making massive l4 caches. I only assume making game that utilizes everything, when it needs to fit into 16MB that was mainstream up to like 3 years ago is not easy. once we have a lot of cache, even on lowest specs, we will see a big spike in ultilization

[@rotarydude07]

Will you be reviewing the the new Lenovo Legion 9i... the first "liquid-cooling" pump.

[@danielmatos5025]

Hey Jarrod , can you review the Asus TUF a15 (2023) please ? I dont know if i should go for it or buy the new legion slim 5i (both 4070rtx) but lenovo legion is more expensive I have a low tier legion that i held for 7 years so i need a change :)

[@f1uffzhunt3r]

What's the best budget gaming laptop to buy that's around the 1000 dollar price point? (US resident) I've been looking for a while.

[@TheDude50447]

The thing with those 16 core 3d chips is that they dont make a lot of sense for purely gamers. Since its effectively an 8 core for gaming. So I wouldnt recommend buying one until its clear if a laptop 3d 8 core will be released. Its the same thing they did on the desktop where the 7950x3d was launched first and later the 7800x3d which makes way more sense for gamers and comes at a cheaper price. If youre gaming and doing like productivity high core count stuff then the 7945hx3d is probably a good option.

[@steph_on_yt]

An 8-core 7745HX3D wouldn't really make sense to most people. You'd be paying i9/R9 money for a chip that only really shines when paired with the 4080/4090, making it a tough sell at the $2500 that laptops equipped with it would most likely start at. It'll be expensive, have atrocious battery life (same as the entirety of Dragon Range), and perform worse than a cheaper 13700HX in anything that's not gaming. Not that I wouldn't like to see it happen; the chip just doesn't have a place in the market.

[@ivonakis]

​@@steph_on_yt It depends on the price - if the jump to 16 core is relatively small sure, just grab the extra cores. However given good discount - why not - 8 cores are not slower in games

[@TheDude50447]

@@steph_on_yt According to what I heard dragon range uses less power than 13th gen though. I mean technically you can put an 7745hx3d into the same machines they put the 16 core variant and make it 200 to 300€ cheaper. As a gaming laptop most people will buy it for gaming anyway. And light productivity workloads would be fine on an 8 core.

[@steph_on_yt]

@@TheDude50447 Dragon Range only uses less power under full load. The power-hungry chiplet design of the desktop-based dies makes for some hilariously bad battery life when doing basic things like video playback or light productivity; almost half of Raptor Lake-HX. Regardless, I don't think a lot of people will be attracted to a $3000 desktop replacement machine that only comes with an 8-core CPU despite being paired with a 4080. Might as well just spend the extra $500 for the full fat 16-core 7945HX3D or 24-core 13980HX.

[@danielyu4320]

​​@@TheDude50447efficiency under load is not the same as idle efficiency. Dragon Range has good efficiency when you stress the cores in workloads and games, but it has horrific uncore power (baseline power consumption when none of the cores are being used). Battery life is primarily determined by uncore power which is where AMD significantly regressed this generation.

[@lucal7756]

I want more 1080p 4080 laptops, like Aorus 17H!

[@bits2646]

OMG I wish I'd have those 3 laptops on my table :DD

[@yianovich]

Please compared the flow x13 with the flow X16 or simply bring more content on the flow lineup

[@-tsvk-]

11:19 Wasn't the problem of assigning the correct cores of an AMD X3D processor to use in a game solved by the Xbox Game Bar application from Microsoft Store? At least that's my understanding of how it's working on desktop X3D processors.

[@MLWJ1993]

It doesn't always work sadly. It's why the dual CCD chips aren't recommended to people that don't do anything other than gaming.

[@JoeWayne84]

It’s crazy that a 4k laptop comes with the slowest ddr5 ram on the market. Especially on the Intel system it really scales well with faster ddr5 …. If it would of had 7000mghz ddr5 it prob been faster in a lot more of the gaming bench’s.

[@DragonOfTheMortalKombat]

I always buy laptops with slowest and smallest memory and storage configurations and upgrade it myself.

[@JoeWayne84]

@@DragonOfTheMortalKombat pretty sure this was the best available option on the market

[@techstation365]

@@JoeWayne84 The only way to do that would be to solder 32GB 6400Mhz/7500Mhz ram.

[@octavianradut4645]

that the video card is better 3050ti 4gb or 3050 6gb?? with i7 12650h

[@panathaninf]

Why you put a ppwer limit 65w/130w to the 13980hx that has 157w peak? Let the laptop sort things out, if it can power both cpu and gpu and cool them why artificially handicap the 13980hx? No user does this... also if you do this why dont do it via undervolting the 13980hx that all users do because you can do it from windows gui ??? Your results are wrong

[@schizofennec]

Nice review, Im glad to see x3d making its way to laptops. Any idea if you will do a Lenovo Legion Slim 5 2023 14" review if/when it comes out? this is the one ive been most excited for all year since i love lenovo's build quality, its apparently out and shipped but i havent been able to find anything on it.

[@JarrodsTech]

We just started testing it today!

[@N.K.---]

That l3 cache is awesome for gaming amd 👌

[@isoulxbladei9244]

I guess not worth upgrading from my Msi Ge67 hx from last year. Lets see the laptop performances next year.

[@silentbutdeadly9726]

Thanks for your hardwork brother

[@huevocrespo]

Linus with millions of subs and this guys doing proper benchmarks only with 600k....

[@sensei_ent]

I ended up getting the 7840hs paired with the rtx 4050. I would love to see you do a review on it! Acer Nitro 17 R6L9

[@JarrodsTech]

Acer are hard to get stuff from at the moment, not sure why!

[@nishant5655]

​@@JarrodsTechThey are ignoring diamond and chasing after copper 😅