The Fastest NAS per Square Inch? UGREEN NASync DXP480T Flash NAS!

[@computersales]

Pretty crazy little box. Shame flash prices aren't going down anytime soon.

[@StorageReview]

Only goin gup for the next 18+ months. HDDs too.

[@leandrovirtue6034]

I really liked the video, especially with this airplane turbine sound, 😅

[@StorageReview]

lab life friend

[@Gamer4Eire]

a huge amount of PR for devices that havent even been put into production as yet. Will be happy to review and possibly buy once they exist.

[@StorageReview]

Their kickstarter is over in a week and a half. They're over $6 million now. We assume they'll go full retail, Amazon, etc. after that concludes.

[@epsig1507]

is it intended to record this video with the loud background noise?

[@wskinnyodden]

Dear lord, that's where you are filming and with all those servers running? What next? Record the video by the exaust of a jet engine? Or would you prefer getting on the engine bay of a Starship rocket during launch?

[@jameschen5130]

lol

[@grantsanders6725]

Im looking forward to getting the 480t , I've got 4x 4tb 4th gen PNY ssds sitting here waiting to go into it!!

[@slow_Jo]

I know UGreen stated that you can't just connect the TB4 port to a computer and use it like an external drive when in that configuration. It would be super convenient on this flash model where it's more portable than the 4/6/8 bay units. Have you guys tested this? If you can't just connect it straight into a computer, I'm hoping UGreen realizes the potential of this use case and releases an update in the future so users can connect their PC's into the TB4 port if they want.

[@Oyashiro_Chama]

You can likely use it as thunderbolt networking to get roughly 20-32gbps

[@Wolf0103]

Watched so many of these videos, so not 100% sure where I saw it but with a different OS it’s possible.

[@simptrix007]

Exactly I was thinking about this use case. Make it PnP hard drive while on TB4.

[@HelloHelloXD]

Looks great!

[@craigr7262]

What's the difference between the plus version and the not plus version

[@StorageReview]

Easy one - there is no non-plus unit.

[@MrDtoU1]

You guys skipped how to remove the plate to get to the Memory module. Why? I want to upgrade the memory module, removed all the screws and still cannot get to it.

[@MrAlawadaa]

Hi good job 👍. DXP480T Plus maximum storage 16 t or 32 t ssd ?

[@nerkymusselman8843]

what would it cost to fill this up with ssd’s at it’s max? thanks.

[@StorageReview]

4X whatever SSD you want, you don't need the latest and greatest here, you're limited by the 10GbE.

[@jodajackson4489]

UGreen is shaking up the NAS market with their offerings or at least they are at the Kickstarter pricing.

[@StorageReview]

even at MSRP they're priced well on a hardware spec basis. Software depth is the next big challenge, so it really depends on what you need.

[@jodajackson4489]

@@StorageReview Agreed, although it’s difficult to even find something on an equivalent hardware level from Synology. Typically they go with Xeon, Celeron, Atom, Realtek, Marvel or an AMD Ryzen V / R. QNAP does a better job with the hardware IMO.

[@StorageReview]

@@jodajackson4489 You're entirely correct. Both however still have a much stronger software ecosystem so it's going to come down to what you want today and if you can be patient with UGREEN on apps.

[@jodajackson4489]

@@StorageReviewGetting Docker functional on UGreen NAS / UG OS was a good early step. If they can followup with iSCSI and VM support the basics would mostly be covered for a lot of users.

[@StorageReview]

@@jodajackson4489 Yep, hopefully that's the priority list.

[@ThatHz-]

I wish it was stackable with expansion to grow over time

[@StorageReview]

You want a JBOD on this tiny system? Probably better to ask them for more M.2 bays or a system with enterprise form factors that have much higher capacities.

[@ThatHz-]

Yes, considering M.2 storage is still so small. Doesn’t Thunderbolt have the ability to daisy chain? A Thunderbolt JBOD would be awesome, with this as the head.

[@StorageReview]

@@ThatHz- there's a reason why this doesn't exist but go ahead and try and report back ;)

[@ThatHz-]

@@StorageReview what a worthless response

[@StorageReview]

@@ThatHz- Heh okay - point being, it's not designed or reliable enough for the JBOD task, which is why you don't see anyone doing it. But that said, if you do it and it works, let us know.

[@mowtow90]

Cudos to UGREEN for putting a massive heatsink and 2 dedicated fans for the NVMEs. Do you see ASUSTORE ? It can be done. The ASUSTORE 12 bay flash nas is just a giant oven when its fully loaded , especially the lower bay has no cooling and it overheats. I think ASUS designed it with m.2 Sata drives in mind but those are pretty much end of development. Nobody bothers with them because they cant compete with NVME. I dont know how are things on your market but here finding anything bigger then 1TB is impossible. If you want bigger - you need NVME which is more expensive and hot.

[@StorageReview]

We don't even cover ASUSTOR.

[@Oyashiro_Chama]

To be fair, the asustor won't even reach 1/8th the transfer rate to cause significant heat generation. If it overheats, you probably have more issues with your ambient temperatures

[@KelvinNV]

How much it will cost ?

[@alldecentnamestaken]

Unusual question: would it be possible to run Windows natively on one of these NASs (bare metal)?

[@StorageReview]

There's a dedicated boot SSD, people have done worse. Not supported of course.

[@caspersmith7112]

i wanna see it at max nvme and ssd

[@StorageReview]

This is the max, four drives.

[@nerkymusselman8843]

if one wants to simply play already dowloaded tv shows & 1080p & 4k movies via plex at home only with a mac mini, is there any reason to get the $65 more plus version of the 4 bay, instead of the non-plus of the 4 bay?

[@StorageReview]

You'd be better off with the HDD version, no need for flash.

[@downrightmike]

Chinese companies don't have a good track record for security or keeping up to date with their software.

[@StenIsaksson]

Kind of funny they name the drives Hard Disk in the OS Sure, it's "hard", but not a disk. ;) Brand new tech and still uses PCIe 3.0

[@StorageReview]

No benefit to Gen4 or Gen5 in a box that can "only" do 1Gb/s out.

[@meteailesi]

​@@StorageReview What about Thunderbolt 4 connection directly to pc ?

[@StorageReview]

@@meteailesi different animal - we didn't really look at that, treated it more like a NAS, but maybe some more performance available that way.

[@URackADisciprine]

No ECC = NOGO....especially with flash where long-term storage is more volatile. Yet another product catering to the lowest common denominator. Sad.

[@StorageReview]

You can pay for that in an enterprise NAS if you like. This isn't enterprise.

[@URackADisciprine]

@@StorageReview What a terrible answer from a supposed channel about data storage. No, you do not need to go enterprise to get ECC. Also don't need to pay a fortune in today's market even if you did go enterprise unless you are buying the absolute latest and greatest.

[@StorageReview]

@@URackADisciprine Point being, this hardware costs less than the comparable drive bay counts from Synology for instance. As to ECC you really don't see that in a packaged NAS solution sub $1K. Happy to be wrong here if you want to share an example. Typically we see ECC show up in more enterprise solutions, typically defined at the rack NAS level.

[@VictorEstrada]

​@@URackADisciprine chill foo, ECC is way too overrated. Like they said, this isn't enterprise. It's great for home use. You want ECC just to say you have it? Go buy something else. In reality, you will NOT see a benefit. Even at enterprises, those things fail all the time and have all kinds of issues.

[@TheDesertsweeper]

ECC Ram was crucial for servers back in the day. But in 2024 with good RAM like from Samsung or equivalent, it's totally unnecessary for low-end hardware like this. Yup and HP Proliant running mission critical business apps. It's worth paying the extra and having peace of mind. But I can comfortably say I've not seen bitrot due to non ECC for many many years. Much to do about nothing

[@yourpcmd]

Man, Ugreen really wants to get these overpriced hunks of junk out there. Giving them away to every tech channel there is.

[@StorageReview]

We would LOVE to see your math on this one - link us to a better hardware combo at a lower price. Never seen such a thing but clearly you've done more work that we have.