The only flaw with this bike, is that it isn't in my garage
@IronBornRider9 ай бұрын
Fix that flaw immediately
@aussiebikerdude65637 ай бұрын
Hahaha
@volfcraft86176 ай бұрын
i fix mine and i have a scout rogue
@inquisita64276 ай бұрын
😂👍
@RNGesus153 ай бұрын
Mate mine got delivered today and i can’t remember a happier day than today in a long time 🎉
@ClotildeJimenezArt11 ай бұрын
I’m 6’1 and the bike feels perfect for me and doesn’t look small on me either. Its the forward controls and mini apes that does the trick
@socosurf11 ай бұрын
I'm also 6'1 and I LOVE The size of this bike. I sit comfortably, everything is assessable. I ride 17 miles to work 2-3 days a week and have zero complaints. I always find it weird that reviewers call out 'taller people' having issues on this bike, I have no issues at all.
@johnh20559 ай бұрын
Good to know. I'm 6'2" 210 pounds and this is the bike I'm likely to buy sometime early this year.
@justinwilliams52139 ай бұрын
Same size and it feels perfect under me
@SkintSNIPER2629 ай бұрын
So, would the Rogue be better than for tall riders since it has the bigger handle bars?
@irpk2398 ай бұрын
@@johnh2055 Have you went and tested one yet? Im your height and weight and dont wont to look like Andre the Giant on it.
@RossGoneRogue11 ай бұрын
Try adjusting your rear shocks to the preload height written in the manual. My Rogue says to set it to 278mm bolt center-to-center and once I did that the ride became way more comfortable. It's a bit of a pain, but it's definitely a different feeling bike after you adjust it to spec.
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
Sounds good!
@nunyabusiness22947 ай бұрын
The"fatal" flaw of this video is the misuse of the term"fatal flaw". That means a flaw that is not correctable or that is inheritances life- threatening. None of the flaws he mentioned are even close.
@IronBornRider7 ай бұрын
I don’t think you understand how quotation marks work
@mikebarthen12709 ай бұрын
I’m 5’10” and weigh 220. I adjusted my shocks to match my weight and added a gel pad under the seat cover. Much nicer ride now.
@IronBornRider9 ай бұрын
Nice, might have to try that
@Robnoxious7724 күн бұрын
underrated comment, most people won’t adjust their suspension from stock, or worse they’ll wreck the setup and think the bike is awful. The truth is, most bikes with any adjustability can be setup to ride pretty well. Start with sag, getting your preload right, adjust rebound based on how much the bike bounces back and forth from a good push straight down on the rear and the head stock, then if you’re lucky, play with the compression to deal with bumps the way you like. There are videos on youtube that go into the finer detail of it, but it’s not THAT hard to get a decent setup.
@401Impala4 ай бұрын
Ive read that tightening the rear suspension 2 full turns on each side helps a ton. Sounds counter-intuitive, but apparently works.
@IronBornRider4 ай бұрын
Might have to try that out
@DonMachado7 ай бұрын
I bought my bobber new from the dealership, and the first thing I did was upgrade to the Fox shocks and Comfort+ seat. I have no issues going over bumps and potholes, even deep ones. The ride is smooth and comfortable. I still have to stop to gas up every 100 miles or so, but I can ride all day without back pain. The solo seat you've chosen is rigid with barely any flex at all. There are other seat manufacturers that make the same type of solo seat but include springs to make it more comfortable. Edit: That being said, I think if you're paying $13k - $16k for a motorcycle, the manufacturer should at least put decent quality shocks and seats on the bikes they sell. I know that the aftermarket is another revenue stream and they make loads selling that stuff, but it's kinda underhanded in my opinion for a motorcycle manufacturer to put inferior parts on a bike in order to drive aftermarket sales.
@MrMetalMoose3 ай бұрын
Fatal flaws ? Bullshit , I own one of these bikes and yes the suspension is hard , so adjust it ? I have no problem with the seat , so how are these fatal flaws ? Awesome bike ! 👌🖕
@sylvionac4 ай бұрын
Thank you for all heads up, very informative video 👍🏻
@IronBornRider4 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@carperdiem8754Ай бұрын
I am 5’10” and have been on a dual sport for a long time now. I am tired of standing on my tippie toes or always one legging it. Am considering just getting a dirt bike and a scout bobber for offroad / road life
@IronBornRiderАй бұрын
Good combo to have
@tomfisher477 ай бұрын
I'm 6'2 180 love it so nimble and quick, ride in the smokies mountains.
@IronBornRider7 ай бұрын
Right on 👍
@DS-hq6oi11 ай бұрын
Try a gel seat pad they sell good ones at places that sell wheelchairs and mobility scooters.
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
Nice! Hadn’t thought of that
@hulkhatepunybanner8 ай бұрын
*Just a note:* a fatal flaw is a characteristic prone to failure by design. A "fatal" flaw is a characteristic that will kill you. (I clicked expecting the latter, a little bit.)
@IronBornRider8 ай бұрын
Duly noted. Was not trying to click bait by any means, just really liked the alliteration
@hulkhatepunybanner8 ай бұрын
@@IronBornRider *I get it. It've gotten my attention either way. It's the added quotation marks that change the meaning.*
@ms2886-n4c5 ай бұрын
@@hulkhatepunybanner This is totally true. lol
@ragidyman95515 ай бұрын
dude, your the kinda guy to remind the teacher about homework, we all knew what he ment. don't be that guy
@DonMachado4 ай бұрын
@@IronBornRider The word "Fatal" is in quotes in the thumbnail. I read that as sarchasm.
@jackvai26813 ай бұрын
for hetero me...flawed like a bad but gorgeous woman... just too beautiful to avoid.
@kingkraken987813 күн бұрын
Have a few friends with the scout bobber that are 6' + and they have absolutely no issues with the scout for the size problem
@IronBornRider13 күн бұрын
I’m in a scout bobber Facebook group and a lot of people 6+ have mentioned the opposite. I suppose it’s subjective
@yvonnegonzalez56162 ай бұрын
U wanna "Bike;"get A Schwinn. A Machine-Xtreme=Cycle.
@RoadReality11 ай бұрын
2" of suspension travel? [laughs in Street Glide Special] First time? :D I have the same flaws in my own bobber, even if it's not an Indian. It's just inherent with the beauty of a bobber :D
@zeroneutral11 ай бұрын
Öhlins IN124 will give you I think 3.5" of travel on the Bobber... They don't seem to un-bob it IMO. Best upgrade after the seat.
@time_of_yer_life_eh_kid7 ай бұрын
I knew I had to make some modifications when buying the scout rogue new. I added Indian piggy back shocks which also gave me an extra inch of travel. This is a must have and made a huge difference. No more bottoming out the suspension in the rear. The Rogue has a syndicate seat which is great to start with. I also added the Indian 2 into 1 exhaust and performance air intake. For safety I added the LED headlight. It's been a great bike for me. It's not meant for two up riding and I'm ok with that. The size and weight of the bike are perfect for 5'10" riders. Your "fatal flaws" apply to EVERY motorcycle, because no motorcycle fits ALL riders well. They "characteristics" that you can either live with, or it's not for you. Not fatal flaws.
@dt39634 ай бұрын
Do these have a fuel gauge in any way?
@IronBornRider4 ай бұрын
No they don’t. The new 2025 models do have a fuel gauge
@dt39634 ай бұрын
@@IronBornRider thanks, I’ve had my eye on a Scout Bobber for about 2 years now but my budget wouldn’t stretch to brand new - I am in a position now where I could get a used one however.. just trying to decide if it would bug me not having a fuel gauge on it 😅
@IronBornRider4 ай бұрын
@@dt3963 I came from a sportster so I was already used to not having one. I just reset the trip meter and fill up every 100 miles or so
@f5tornadeau11 ай бұрын
Not really flaws, it just is what it is. Some bikes are made for cruising, some for ripping. This is the latter. I want one!
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
I like how you put it. Very true
@hiltonlouque150411 ай бұрын
Exactly, bobbers are not long distance bikes!
@zeroneutral11 ай бұрын
It needs upgrades to do either of those with any comfort at all. Seat and rear shocks for sure.
@f5tornadeau11 ай бұрын
@@zeroneutral probably true, but still better than a hardtail. You need to give up something to get that low, I guess…
@WontSeeReplies11 ай бұрын
The first time I saw this bike I thought “beautiful…but where’s the rear suspension?” I’m surprised to see such little travel on newer bikes.
@papa13517 ай бұрын
What gloves are you wearing? I like that zipper guessing it's for venting but hoping it will give some relief in the palm are I have extremely large mits in the palm area.
@IronBornRider7 ай бұрын
It’s from Joe rocket, I think it’s called Briton gloves. Check them out!
@Chaals8 ай бұрын
I rode one of these and I was wondering what everyone was complaining about with the suspension. It feels better than my Ninja 400 lol. But then I realized most people are probably used to cushy cruisers and I'm used to a sport bike.
@IronBornRider8 ай бұрын
Yeah cruisers are built with comfort in mind. Much different from sport bikes which are different purpose
@DonMachado7 ай бұрын
You can easily improve the suspension if you wanted to by upgrading the rear shocks to something that will add some travel, and getting a more comfortable seat. It'll never be as smooth as a touring bike, but I can ride all day without any discomfort.
@raybrensike4210 ай бұрын
There's nothing wrong with a bike that doesn't take a passenger as if it was a big bike. If you want that, get a big bike. There are advantages to a small bike. Some people never take a passenger, or so rarely and for such a short ride it doesn't matter. They can sit on the fender or on a small pad.
@IronBornRider10 ай бұрын
Agree. Most of the riding I do is solo around town
@Robnoxious7724 күн бұрын
the scout bobber bars are much lower, the bars on the bike you’re riding look like the scout bobber 20 which results in your back being straighter, and more comfortable. The rebel has a slightly different bar angle and feels a bit awkward despite having the same bar rise as the 20. The standard bobber looks amazing, but the 20 or rebel are much more forgiving on longer rides.
@PetrucchioDa21 күн бұрын
If you are buying a Bobber it pretty much says that you won't be carrying a passenger. Two on a Bobber (look up the original Bobbers) is just contrary to what they are designed for
@ClubMotivatedАй бұрын
If your 6’2 like myself just put 10” risers on and get the extended foot controls its perfectly fine, still light and smaller than the Chief Dark Horse which will be my bike after the scout but its no problem on the Rogue, and the newest sport scout has better options with the 10” riser
@mrdude3540Ай бұрын
I had a 2018 Indian scout bobber ABS blacked out did a lot of custom work to it and it looked awesome sad I had to trade it in for my challenger though but eventually I’ll buy another scout
@pewterpirate45602 ай бұрын
Move somewhere with better roads! 😂
@IronBornRider2 ай бұрын
Lol I wish
@jimcockburn46523 ай бұрын
I understand that the 2015 and 2016 year models rear shock absorbers on the Scout weren't good but the years before and after I have heard nothing about.
@86BigJoe4 ай бұрын
I'm 6'4 love my scout bobber it's comfortable to me, but my back gets sore after 4 hours
@IronBornRider4 ай бұрын
For me it’s about 2 hours but I have the 1920 solo seat so it’s not that comfy
@raybrensike4210 ай бұрын
The way I think about a 100-mile fuel range is in a real-world kind of way. Suppose you just filled up the tank the day before. Then you awake in the morning and decide to go to a place 30 miles out in the country where there are no gas stations. Not at all uncommon where I live. So, you get back from your trip, and you have to fill up again or you would not be able to do that again, and for what? To get somewhere 30 miles away. So, your practical range for going anywhere seems to be about 30 miles. Who wants to go to the gas station every single day? Not me.
@slaytanic9218 ай бұрын
I look at mine as a commuter bike. For true cruising I want a challenger or chieftain.
@raybrensike4210 ай бұрын
I bought a Harley Sportster back in '79. Not long afterward, I got rear ended at a red light one night. The bike got stuck in somebody's grill. It never tipped over, but after my back hit the sissy bar and bent it, I went over the handle bars and rolled into the intersection. With the insurance money I began bobbing it. I cut the frame under the seat, taking out a section of the horizontal at the rear, right under the seat, and bent it down. Now I needed a new oil tank made. I had someone make me a cylindrical tank out of stainless steel and put that through the odd shaped triangle, replacing the large battery for a small one which I put between the highway pegs. (XLCH- kickstart only) Then I picked out a rigid frame seat that had a tall back and with a little bit of hammer work, it fit the rear fender which I also bobbed in the back, moving the tail light. I got an axed Harley tank that was 3.5 gallon. It looked like an old K Harley tank from the 50's that somebody moved the filler from the center of the tank over to the right side so it would fill nicely to the top when refueling. It had a raised crease in the center that tapered down to nothing. It looked real nice especially with the new oil tank which also showed a chrome filler cap on the right side. Last week I looked at a Harley 48, and it seemed to me to be a hack job. It's like they robbed the suspension just to get a low seat height. Where were the engineers? I could have done better with a hack saw is what I was thinking. I wonder if a 1200 would start easy with only a kickstart. With fancy new electronics and fuel injection, I think it would. Then you don't need a big battery, and it would be lighter. Nothing wrong with kickstart if it starts well.
@geraltofbolivia9428Ай бұрын
I traded my scout rouge for a Harley and man do I miss that bike. It isn’t comfortable for longer rides, and its suspension is hot garbage, but despite all of its flaws I regret trading her in so so much.
@IronBornRiderАй бұрын
Which Harley did you end up getting? And I agree despite its flaws it’s such a beast of a bike
@terrellstill85329 ай бұрын
So upgrading front and back shocks as well as a nice seat would make the ride alot smoother?!?
@IronBornRider9 ай бұрын
That’ll definitely smooth it out
@preacherman621211 ай бұрын
How do you like the mini floor boards?Trying to decide between upgrading my pegs or getting the floor boards.
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
I love the mini floor boards. It’s one of the few cheap upgrades that pay huge dividends
@goddal86352 ай бұрын
Just a quick question did you ever adjust your suspension for your weight? You know its set at a pretty stiff middle point from factory. I think you need more experience before you make these flawed observations.
@IronBornRider2 ай бұрын
@@goddal8635 flawed observations? It’s not an observation, it’s a fact. It has 2 inches of suspension travel, no amount of adjusting is going to change that and yea I’ve adjusted to my weight and it still sucks. There’s a reason why so many people upgrade to better shocks with 3+ inches of travel. More experience? I’ve demo’d several bikes from Harley, Indian, Yamaha, Kawasaki, etc, and the scout bobber has one of the worst, if not the worst stock rear suspension I’ve tried.
@jamesfenter9166 ай бұрын
Yes it is a small frame bike .. I ride my wife scout often I'm 6 2 we set it up with floorboards mustang seat helps with the ride ... at 50 -56 mpg the 3.3 gallon tank is just as around 125 miles we are usually ready for a break .. So I wouldn't call them flaws .. but short coming .. But the bike wasn't designed as a long haul touring bike It would be nice if Indian came up with a touring bike based on the scout motor
@IronBornRider6 ай бұрын
Agree that the bobber wasn’t designed for touring. They’re releasing a new line of scouts and I’d be interested in seeing if they make any improvements or changes
@denizkendirciАй бұрын
when you said "fatal", i thought they were going to be fatal. flaws that can cause you crash. but it turned out be a comfort issue.
@IronBornRiderАй бұрын
Yeah sorry about that. Didn’t mean to mislead, I put fatal in quotes meaning the biggest thing I can find wrong with the scout
@stephensexton55725 ай бұрын
Those are not fatal flaws, you want a real fatal flaw? Let's talk about the stator plug....
@den_52511 ай бұрын
Alot of fatal flaws... but it looks AMAZING! I have 3 bikes in my sight, Street bob 114, low rider S and indian scout bobber... it's a hard decision.
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
Agree it’s an amazing looking bike. For that reason alone I can deal with the flaws. I have a low rider s as well, and I’ve been finding myself wanting to take the scout bobber out more for quick rips. I like the low rider s for longer rides 2+ hours
@Txcowboy809 ай бұрын
I love my Scout but I would look at the new Indian Sport Chief with 10 inch risers. Its a bit of a upgrade over the scout.
@TrustyZ9009 ай бұрын
Low rider S for sure. Just brought home a black '23 with 2BR exhaust. Sounds great, looks great and chicks dig it.
@markusnachname16193 ай бұрын
Whatever bike you buy... if there's 5" or less travel on the suspension WHAT DO YOU EXPECT Dude????
@IronBornRider3 ай бұрын
Hm interesting because in the video I said I knew what I was getting into in regard to the suspension.
@raulrivera66915 ай бұрын
Coming from 48, which suspension do you think its better? Im between these 2 bikes and id love your perspective on this. Thanks
@IronBornRider5 ай бұрын
In terms of suspension comfort, the 48 wins by a small margin because of the 3 inch travel vs the 2 on the scout bobber. In terms of suspension for handling, I feel the scout bobber handles curves better. I think the scout is overall a “better” bike, more power and is really fun to ride. However, the 48 has the look, sound, and overall more “character”. I love my scout bobber, but I do miss my 48 still.
@TheMotoJawn11 ай бұрын
Fatal flaw? i thought something was wrong with it that would kill you, click bait
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
Gotcha
@hiltonlouque150411 ай бұрын
His criticism of the bike is flawed!
@solkru7 ай бұрын
I’m a short Filipino old man 5’5-5’6 would this in your opinion be a beginner motorcycle? I get 50/50 answers just getting opinions from different people
@IronBornRider7 ай бұрын
I think it would be a good option as a beginner, it’s a bike that can grow with you and won’t bore you after a couple months. With that being said, it’s a powerful bike so take it slow and practice and you’ll be ok
@TrustyZ9009 ай бұрын
As for the small tank. Mount a rotopax 2 gallon on top . Would look pretty cool. LOL. No, really nice bike, sounds excellent.
@IronBornRider9 ай бұрын
lol thanks frank!
@livelong668511 ай бұрын
it does look big or long in picture pause
@christurner77113 ай бұрын
Come on man it's a bobber, it's supposed to be bare bones, if you want confort get a Springfield or chief,
@IronBornRider3 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s a bobber, but it’s also $13-14k motorcycle. They can’t put some decent shocks for that price?
@markiesmith45373 ай бұрын
Err ... you bought a single seat Bobber and complain it's not good for pillion passengers???
@IronBornRider3 ай бұрын
Yeah I get where you’re coming from. I personally don’t ride with a passenger, but for the sake of the video I presented information that I’ve come across on forums and Facebook groups. There are a lot of riders out there who ride 2 up on the bobber
@ianwalsh-b6p9 ай бұрын
l love my indian scout but i agree the suspension is shit you feel every bump i tried to adjust but still bad, another thing is because its low when cornering tend to scrape the foot pegs or mufflers and last thing is the fuel light its so inconsistant in knowing how far you can get on it i ran out of fuel once no gas station but i shook the bike once conked out made it about 2ks to gas station
@IronBornRider8 ай бұрын
All good points
@realityblast666Ай бұрын
I love mine.. I ride the shit out of it..
@murphy35134 ай бұрын
What did you film this with and what mic did you use? Great review!
@IronBornRider3 ай бұрын
Thanks! Just a dji action 4 and an amazon mic. Nothing fancy
@Rabbits_Midnight_Chronicles2 ай бұрын
Did you leather wrap your grips? I did mine and I really like the look of it especially as its worn in a bit.
@IronBornRider2 ай бұрын
I did! I think they’re called trip machine? It’s been solid
@Rabbits_Midnight_Chronicles2 ай бұрын
@@IronBornRider Yep. I have the same ones but in red.
@zeroneutral11 ай бұрын
I upgraded to Öhlins rear shocks and they improved the feel of bumps like 70% The upgraded seat from Indian works for me. The stock seat should be a crime.
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
The ohlins look great with the bobber
@Dontex194911 ай бұрын
Are those stock pipes? Sounds good!
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
Thanks! They’re just cheap amazon slip ons
@shano817 ай бұрын
The vibrations past 4.5k rpm are also a deal breaker for me on the Scout platform.
@IronBornRider7 ай бұрын
I’m used to vibrations on my Harleys so it’s not too bad for me lol
@wesleyredmond34646 ай бұрын
Not really a FATAL FLAW. Just personal preference 🤷♂️
@IronBornRider6 ай бұрын
Fair point
@lovemetwotimestwoАй бұрын
Nothing fatal about it.
@jeffreygwinn50815 ай бұрын
Did you change the handlebars? If so, to what?
@IronBornRider5 ай бұрын
They’re stock handlebars. The scout bobber 20 comes with mini apes
@jps47377 ай бұрын
The only thing I heard I agreed with was that you have no interest in 2 up riding the scout.
@IronBornRider7 ай бұрын
Sure, it’s just one man’s opinion
@livelong668511 ай бұрын
thx for this critical infos, im 6ft 4 and 220 i was looking at this and the rebel 1100 but me going from san diego to calgary or to florida prob wouldn't be great
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
Comfort wise wouldn’t be great but you could get an upgraded seat. Should help a lot
@marcusgonzalez80268 ай бұрын
What did you end up getting?
@AddyZed12036 ай бұрын
he’s mad it’s better stock than any Harley he could find modded…
@IronBornRider6 ай бұрын
I bought the scout but I’m mad? Ok genius
@Huey-vj9pk6 ай бұрын
I got excited when you started headed down to Ale House.
@IronBornRider6 ай бұрын
As you should
@johnclore62852 ай бұрын
I got my 2020 bobber due to the fact that my inseam is 30 inches. 5' 5" tall. The suspension does suck. I did get some floor boards for it and a new comfort seat. Waiting for the winshield and a longer clutch cable. I took the handle bars back towards me 2" and I need to take them back 2 more inches. Good video. I had a 1200 Sportster and the power of the Bobber is way more impressive.
@SB-mw1bg4 ай бұрын
Are those the reduced reach Indian bars?
@IronBornRider4 ай бұрын
They’re stock bars on an Indian scout 20.
@JayPETERS-p1y8 ай бұрын
I love my Scout Bobber, The style dictates the low seat and suspension travel. This bike is a cruisin' the backroads dream. It is not a cruiser for a cross country ride. I am 5'8 250 and this this is awesome for just riding with a few friends and cruising around with no destination on the weekend. It seems you have the mini apes or is that a Bobber 20 which comes with them? To be fair I did get the comfort seat so I could ride longer like far enough to need gas before I need to stand up. I got the Indian piggy backs for Christmas, but have not installed as in New England its too cold and too much rain snow on a regular basis...My son had watched a few of these videos and figured it would be a good gift for me. None of these are "Fatal" flaws I think that's a little dramatic...
@markusnachname16193 ай бұрын
No real fatal flaws, he's just to weak for the Bobber and has no idea of the Bobber concept, sorry but the truth is harder than the Bobber.
@IronBornRider3 ай бұрын
Lol it’s “too” not “to”. What’s a bobber concept? Do you mean a bobber style motorcycle? Concept is an idea. Maybe spend less time watching videos and more time reading a book. Truth.
@markusnachname16193 ай бұрын
@@IronBornRider That's perfect advice for you my friend. I don't have to read, I ride. PS: Thx for the missing "o", would have looked for it, but than didn't care.
@IronBornRider3 ай бұрын
@@markusnachname1619 lmao “I don’t have to read. I ride.” That about sums up your intelligence. Thanks for the laughs and don’t forget to read the street signs
@markusnachname16193 ай бұрын
@@IronBornRider I can benchpress a sentence! ☝
@mikeh468611 ай бұрын
Nice video. Fatal flaws may be a little strong. I have the regular Scout, so only major difference is 1 more inch travel, and cosmetic. I would hope that anyone considering this bike has test rode it or done their research. If they are still dissatisfied, it's on them I guess. You may want dealer to look at your bike if you are only getting 100 mi. out of a tank. I regularly go 135, and then maybe low fuel light comes on. Keep in mind, hard breaking will also activate low fuel warning. I have a wish list also for the scout, but @ price point they are selling at toy may need to move up to a bigger bike. My 2 cents
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
Agree that fatal flaws is strong which is why I decided to put it in quotes on the title. It just had a nice ring to it.
@zeroneutral11 ай бұрын
I upgraded my rear shocks on the Bobber with an extra inch of travel. It makes a major difference. The Scout Bobber has the most power to weight of the scout line iirc... I am also getting around 110 miles per tank.
@geraldscott43028 ай бұрын
I ride a 2006 Sportster 1200L. While I have added a few things (extra chrome, aftermarket exhaust, sissy bar, saddlebags, etc.) it still has the stock seat, and the stock suspension. I bought this bike with 3600 miles on it, I now have almost 20,000 miles on it, and I've had no issues with the seat or suspension. It does have mid controls, so I can support some of my weight with my legs over bumps. The Sportster 1200 is also a small bike, but it fits me at 6' 240 just fine. But I NEVER carry a passenger. That is just no fun at all. I learned that decades ago. If you are going to carry a passenger, get a car. I love the stock seat on the XL1200L, because it's only 25.5" high. I'm 64 and have bad knee and hip joints, and have trouble getting my leg over taller seats. The Sportster seat is perfect. My Sportster has a 4.5 gallon tank, and while it does not look right on a Sportster, at least not to me, it will give you a 200 mile range. The top is also completely flat, and a 14L magnetic tank bag fits perfectly.
@MrRourk3 ай бұрын
Indian basically recreated the Magna with a bigger motor and fuel injection.
@amomentsnotice11 ай бұрын
Ǒhlins
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
Right on
@zeroneutral11 ай бұрын
Yes. Öhlins IN124
@digitaldreamer425 ай бұрын
The only true flaw in this bike since I own it is that it doesn’t have a friken fuel gauge
@windinhishair1011 ай бұрын
What gloves are those?
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
Joe rocket is the brand. I don’t remember the model name
@windinhishair1011 ай бұрын
@@IronBornRider Found em! Ty
@SumPixelz8 ай бұрын
To me the biggest flaw would be the tiny gas tank and no fuel gauge to go with that. Otherwise I think this is one of the best looking bikes around.
@IronBornRider8 ай бұрын
I’m ok with the small gas tank only because I need those stretch breaks on this bike 😂
@RaMt2oo10 ай бұрын
I’m 6’2 but man I can get rid of this bike I have to have it
@IronBornRider10 ай бұрын
It’s a fun bike. You may want to keep it
@RaMt2oo10 ай бұрын
@@IronBornRider getting one next month homie and tbh a month feels like a year so far 😫
@jamesfenter9166 ай бұрын
Yeah it will be interesting is it all new or just another version of the current platform
@IronBornRider6 ай бұрын
They’ve been pretty cryptic so we’ll have to wait and see
@jordanpressman304111 ай бұрын
Bike sounds like a beast! Can you do exhaust video?
@ZeroHecks11 ай бұрын
What gloves are those? They look nice
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
Thrashin supply!
@miltonsmith31145 ай бұрын
No “Fatal” flaws! Fatal means death!! Why would you be looking to upgrade a bike with “Fatal” flaws?
@raymunchieftain417011 ай бұрын
Had a '18, it was lightweight 100 HP ran like a monster loved it very quick !!!! Yes the suspension needs some after market shocks for sure.
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
Agreed!
@f5tornadeau11 ай бұрын
Had? What did you replace it with?
@raymunchieftain417011 ай бұрын
I traded it for a '19 H-D Sportglide. I liked my Indian however it was'nt good for touring. The Sportglide had cruise control and clam shell bags. Very good suspension.
@leebrewer739411 ай бұрын
Indian Scott bobber? Engrish tuff.
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
Clown comment bro
@leebrewer739411 ай бұрын
@@IronBornRider you say Scott everytime, speak clearer or take a class.
@IronBornRider11 ай бұрын
@@leebrewer7394 lol or maybe clean out your ears old man
@trevorbrown46748 ай бұрын
I went with Progresive 970 piggy backs. I ordered them an inch longer than stock. much better ride and increased lean angle. I never scrapped another peg after the shock replacement. For the seat I went with a Corbin. It eliminated getting pulled off the seat during rapid exceleration. For the headlight, anothe flaw, I went with the Indian pathfinder LED. By the way, a "Fatal" flaw is one that can result in death. Non of the flaws you mentioned meet that criteria. I forget wich bike but one indian cruser is notorius for the death wabble at around 45 mph. That is a fatal flaw. I think indian has since corrected that by using different tires. By the way, I loved my Bobber. Especially after I corrected the flaws, and the exsaust .LOL... For that I went with the freedom performance radical radius (Will also increase lean ange on right side). Another flaw is the spedo. After about a year they are known to collect moisture and the exposed plastic parts will disinigrate if directly splashed with gas. Believe me, it is a sight to see the bezzle disinagrate before your eyes and chunks fall to the ground. All it takes is a defective gas nozzle at the pump. It can be replaced under warranty if within the period. If not, it's over 400 bucks. On another note, Great video, great need to know info.