The Feral Child Tied To A Toilet For 13 Years

[@Vsauce2]

This is a censored re-upload because KZbin has once again targeted Vsauce2 and Age-Restricted the previous upload which essentially shadowbans it. PLEASE hit the LIKE button to support the channel and this video. I will continue to make videos that explore the complex relationship between science and human behavior. If you've already watch the video please consider letting it run muted in another tab so this reupload gets treated normally in the algorithm. And as always, thanks for watching.

[@bumblebeegamerreal]

Oh RIP, Good luck with that

[@leandru7]

KZbin censors the word “toilet?”

[@horatiotodd8723]

Vsauce deserves justice

[@justinvirtue1374]

Playing it silently in the background 🫡

[@FinSemi]

You should use Nebula as additional platform for limited content.

[@bloodrune329]

Crazy how Genie was with a woman who loved her and wanted to take care of her and the foster system immediately set her back to where she was. Tells you what the state of the U.S. foster system is.

[@mactep1]

How do you look at one of the worst cases of parental abuse and think "yeah, we believe her mom is the best choice fr" ?

[@bloodrune329]

@@mactep1 yeah the woman who loved her was the psychologist my man…

[@AChannelVeryCool]

@@mactep1 they were not talking about their mother.

[@kwingle]

Her name is Susan.

[@qlx-i]

@@AChannelVeryCool They partially did. They were talking about how broken society is, that they literally didn't allow the woman who has proven to love her and actually take care of her to be her mother and instead sent them to her original mother, who has proven to abuse her.

[@sadistfurret4205]

Better help sells customer medical data & doesn't use licensed professionals ffs

[@hopegold883]

And the people they do use are abused almost as much as their customers.

[@xbrandi12345x]

Pretty much anyone can become a counselor in a year, it doesn't take much. Are you sure they aren't licensed? If yes, you should report them.

[@sadistfurret4205]

@@xbrandi12345x no, the platform itself doesn't guarantee that the counselors have any qualifications

[@FFC231]

⁠@@sadistfurret4205they used to a couple years ago until they got caught and now they illegally sell your data

[@forest6008]

@@sadistfurret4205 im pretty sure that changed and they do require you to have a license now

[@kcmule]

The fact that we allowed this girl to again be abused in foster homes is the most disturbing thing I have heard today. I hope and pray she is able to find happiness in this world that hurt her from the very beginning.

[@pyroguyman096]

It's an all too familiar thing unfortunately. The system constantly fails children in need for one reason or another. The Turpin children are another prime example, and it's all too terrible as well

[@slinkyartist3963]

the worst part to me is that there was literally multiple people who would've been willing to take her in and adopt her, but she was instead put in horrifically abusive foster homes instead

[@YourCapyFrenBigly_3DPipes1999]

​@@pyroguyman096 what happened to them? I've never heard an update. I was desperately hoping they would get all the help they needed.

[@zzevonplant]

She died a while back. She had ended up in a nursing home.

[@austinreavis4226]

@@zzevonplant Source?

[@anatolydyatlov963]

Ah yes, let's sue the scientists who helped her learn basic things, and with whom she was happy, rather than the foster home where she was abused for years. What a genius move

[@brandonbombplays9304]

You don't have 69 likes anymore :devil:

[@legateau5387]

@@brandonbombplays9304 it's 96 at time of writing. what a coincidence.

[@internetphia]

+@@legateau5387 Now it's 333!

[@benayers8622]

the system working perfectly. Commoditising human life

[@TheBeziii]

@@brandonbombplays9304 it's 691 as i'm writing this, can't escape it

[@whiskeywolfgang]

KZbin when kids are being abused on their platform: i sleep KZbin when someone talks about kids being abused: CENSOR THIS

[@innocentbystander3317]

KZbin's censorship means nothing to me because I see what they tolerate..

[@aceman0000099]

Only cause you have no idea what type of shit gets censored that you'll never see...

[@gentlestormtoo]

The two words that were censored by Vsauce in the video may have been the reason of Censor. Can't mention them here or I will be censor too.

[@matthewkendrick8280]

@@gentlestormtoono shit

[@Phosfit]

@@gentlestormtoolet’s play 21 questions so I can figure out the words. Does it start with a “G?” Is it “Gatorade?”

[@seekervaltriz9447]

People deserve better help than BetterHelp.

[@FBI_Agent_69420]

That's why here at BestHelp, we can surgically remove anxiety, depression and other popular disorders for only $4.20 per disorder.

[@Babu-kr3cr]

Have you tried that and found it lacking?

[@chrissmithdoe2100]

Better help sells customer medical data & doesn't use licensed professionals

[@seekervaltriz9447]

@@Babu-kr3cr As the other commenter has stated, they sell medical data and do not use licensed professionals. Further more, their "psychologists" tend to run late or not be invested into the patients, and oftentimes push a political agenda. Oftentimes, far-right. This means that their treatment of LGBTQ+, black people, and other minority patients, are even worse than their baseline, which is not good in any measure of the word to begin with.

[@spyralspyder]

Yes I am questioning finishing this video now

[@luke2806]

she went from isolated in a room, to isolated in a scientific institute. and they wondered why her progress stopped.

[@MoonLiteNite]

That wouldn't be the cause of her progress stopping.....

[@KingMickeyMouseOoO]

If I remember the video correctly, the host has stated that Susan Curtis wanted to adopt her and become her parent. IF the courts in our American governmental system had a @#$%ing heart and a @#$%ing spine, they would have accepted Susan Curtis's proposal; and Genie FINALLY would have been saved and she would have DEVELOPED as a somewhat functioning adult human being. This just show how CORRUPTED, TARNISHED, and @#$%ING RUINED our American governmental system has become! I don't have the answer for this, but........EXPOSE the lies, the manipulations, and deceptions of our government! Have the masses SEE what is actually going on behind the curtains! And reveal WHO the big green face head guy really is and show no mercy to them! P.S. - Do NOT become the very monster that you are trying to destroy........that would be an even WORSE outcome! Thank you!

[@itzmedb8290]

@@MoonLiteNitevery likely contributed a large amount.

[@Middle_OfMay]

@@MoonLiteNite probrobly a part of the problem though

[@clancykohl]

This assumes the scientists who were all about human development didn't have a clue how it works. Like she lived there, and possibly wasn't any more isolated than you when you sit at home. They probably went outside with her and stuff too, but there were likely limits to what she even could do, due to her stunted development. It's not like that you just expose someone like that to normal life and suddenly they overcome all their problems and become perfectly functional and normal.

[@jessica_in_japan]

Weird that KZbin requires censoring the word abuse but not the word torture.

[@jtabox]

Or censoring the word "suicide" but not the word "murder"...

[@Josecannoli1209]

You can thank all the idiots who claim that word triggers them so no one can hear it

[@ALEX_THE_FOXCAT]

@@Josecannoli1209that reminds me that trigger warnings for food exist

[@askadoctorifheresyisright4you]

I think you mean "advanced interrogation". But seriously, our system is screwed.

[@jackdunn4463]

They shouldnt require either. Why do creators have to censor common, basic words because a few karens cry and defacate when they hear content that isnt pointlessly softened to protect their fragile minds? The people that cant hear common words without getting triggered will just find something else to be triggered about, being a victim is a lifestyle for them. So why cater to them at all?

[@zombiedoggie2732]

Father: "I can't stand loud noises!" *makes three kids*

[@e-talian1245]

Edited and still misspelled lol

[@zombiedoggie2732]

@@e-talian1245 The edit was to edit the 2 to 3. And noses can be very loud too!

[@b0ks511]

You're not wrong 😂​@@zombiedoggie2732

[@MyDeadOblivionAx]

He couldn't because he was sick in the head

[@Urduhkhan]

Abortion and Birth Control were illegal.

[@definty]

Isn't better help the company that connected predators with abuse victims?

[@norwegiansmores811]

im not sure about that specifically but overall betterhelp is inherently malicious, unsafe and every single thing you say will be sold to data brokers with your name and billing info attached. their privacy policy is akin to taking a shit inside a glass porta potty surrounded by 4k cameras.

[@Niger-clan69]

Yes

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

never heard about that but i can believe it. take this: 👍

[@Isachzu]

Wait what’s up with betterhelp

[@TamWam_]

@@Isachzu apparently sold users' information

[@mikeclarke1986]

I took my undergrad in psychology, and the textbooks only ever talked about the first half of genie's story -- it's the first I've heard of what happened after funding dried up

[@OhWizzer]

Her names Susan. Watch the whole video it's worth it

[@error.418]

I took undergrad psych and we got the full story. It was used to not only tell her story, but to reflect on care and practices in the field, etc.

[@budgerigarer]

From Wikipedia: "In May 2008, ABC News reported that someone who spoke to them under condition of anonymity had hired a private investigator who located her in 2000. According to the investigator, she was living a simple lifestyle in a small private facility for mentally underdeveloped adults and appeared to be happy, and reportedly only spoke a few words but could still communicate fairly well in sign language." Later in the article it says that as of 2016, she is still alive.

[@angiemaestre638]

Thank you, cause i cant keep watching this video and im only 7minutes in

[@maddie.143]

What did you search to find this Wikipedia page?

[@budgerigarer]

@@maddie.143 Genie (Feral Child) I believe is what its called.

[@RealShebang]

This was a horrific and tragic story that almost made me cry. Everyone forgot that this was a person, except the person who wasn't allowed to see her. What a miserable life, and for no good reason.

[@satangx]

The mother was not blameless holy hell! She could have easily stopped what was happening to her for 13 years. Wild

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

yes but also old blind woman V.S old man who is roleplaying as the deathangles from a quiet place and is goated with the two by four.

[@FoggyMcFogFace]

I don't think you can give her as much blame as others, we don't know the details of what she could've done. She may have been just as abused by the father. More blame is to be had on the people that put her back with her mother, who obviously didn't have the means to care for a normal child let alone this case, without any kind of support. Even if she was 100% blameless and a great, caring mother, she didn't have the means to give her what she needed. Even a fully able mother couldn't have cared for her on her own, I think.

[@chaoticcow4357]

@@wind_king-lh8zs Well, we don't actually know how old the mother was during Susan's birth and for her first 8 years of her life. She was likely more than capable of reporting this situation to the police, nonetheless Susan also had an older brother who was a victim to the father too. The mother had two chances, and she did nothing. Just because she didn't participate in the abuse, doesn't mean she didn't bystand and witness it. The father was a horrible man, yes, but the mother was definitely a cruel bystander to what had happened. No one respects a person who bystands bullying, why should anyone respect a person who bystands torture?

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

@@chaoticcow4357 good point take this 👍

[@JuMiKu]

​@FoggyMcFogFace Agreed. Which is why she ultimately ended up in an institution, where she was reported to have become very happy by all accounts. She supposedly became good at sign language. I like to think she is still living a quiet life without the pressure of having to succeed.

[@CoperliteConsumer]

How ironic that when you attempted to give susan's story to the world, that yourube would immediately censor it. Its so predictably tragic, the world we live in.

[@ceulgai2817]

IS that irony, though?

[@zakattack5863]

@@ceulgai2817 ?

[@zakattack5863]

@@Baptized_in_Fire.[SPOILER] At the end, he reveals that Genie was a codename and her real name is Susan

[@Baptized_in_Fire.]

@@zakattack5863 yeah I realized that and forgot to delete my comment.

[@DVDCJW]

Is r a typo or to avoid censor? It's right next to t

[@Head_Stander]

and as always, remember not to use betterhelp

[@pinkace]

what did betterhelp do to you?

[@jonathanrouse]

Betterhelp is a terrible therapy platform, the therapists are not taken care of there

[@pinkace]

@@jonathanrouse but did YOU use it? Are you a therapist?

[@kuotamou]

@@pinkace they sold their users personal data without their consent, some of the the “therapists” who work at Betterhelp aren’t licensed therapists, and the therapists that are on Betterhelp are subjected to the users issues at any time due to the instant messaging system. You aren’t supposed to be able to message therapists at any time, you are supposed to think about stuff before talking to a therapist about it.

[@pinkace]

@@kuotamou that sounds awful. Did this happen to you directly? Were you a first-party witness (or should I say victim) to these affronts?

[@lauren3173]

I love science. I love research. The whole video I was just internally screaming “she’s a child! She deserves to be taken care of according to her needs! Not studied endlessly to the detriment of her wellbeing!” She deserved a stable home with loving people and specialists who worked for her development and not some greater purpose. Dr. Curtiss was a blessing. I wish she had gotten her wish.

[@alazarbisrat1978]

@ThatOne-b1t you can't just run away from thinking about it when you're watching this video, and you can't keep running forever, it just feels awful tho so I wish it was possible, but that would just be burying the issue

[@juliemesser2053]

​@ThatOne-b1t Gross. Just pitiful.

[@SanchoPanza-wg5xf]

Well if scientists followed your bleeding-heart approach, how would we ever learn anything? Think of testing new viral serums. Half of the infected are given the new serum and live, the other half get a placebo and die. That's the only way to prove whether the serum is effective.

[@TruthDoesNotExist]

The problem wasn't the scientiss,, it was the abusive foster homes

[@alazarbisrat1978]

@@TruthDoesNotExist seems more like a problem with foster homes in general. I don't know what's up with that, maybe the system for determining their eligibility and the whole laws around childcare in general but many many children are put into such homes and end up not right

[@misspinkpunkykat]

Seeing how "Genie" was treated this way all the way until she was almost 14 and only discovered because her mother went to the wrong social services department makes me wonder how many more children like her exist but go undiscovered.

[@ALittleMessi]

I think it would be similar to the "dropped in the woods" kids. Most of them are going to die very young, it's surprising Genie didn't die. She got sick when the doctor passed on bacteria to her, which easily could have happened with her parents, except there would be no medicine and no nutrition. I don't know if there would be many other kids "like" her in the way that they are denied of literally almost anything including sound. Even her own siblings didn't seem to receive the exact same treatment from the father. Her brother was abused undoubtedly, but in a more "normal" way. He was even allowed to go to school. The other sibling died as a baby after being abandoned. To get someone truly in the same state as her would be require a specific set of circumstances and deliberate methods of torture

[@Metia_9898]

Man... i actually cried when i heard she had to go back to her old home.

[@zhet]

Not the old home, an another foster house that have also abused her

[@fj81191]

​@zhet No, she did go back to her mother for a while, as insane as that was. And after that the abusive foster homes.

[@accupunkture7935]

I was crying the whole video ngl.

[@AquaPeet]

It has been a while that I felt so astonished and angry. After the words were uttered I shouted out loud WHAT THE F!!!! My heart skipped a few beats as well.

[@anonymouspig992]

KZbin when you upload educational content instead of stimulating brain rot videos targeted at children : 😡😡🤬🤬😡

[@EStewart573]

Ironic given the mentions of cocomelon in the video

[@blearkob]

"Her name isn't even Genie" was such a plot twist

[@HopefulStars-pt6hi]

I thought it was for privacy reasons

[@cheetah2003-z5w]

If you paused and looked at sniplet of the newspaper article shown about the Father's end, you'd have seen the girl's name is Susan. I did that, and then looked up the Father's name, since it also appears in the article. Strange how the wikipedia article about Genie goes out of it's way to omit the name of her parents. All in all, this is a very strange but also very tragic story.

[@Pocket_Fox]

​@HopefulStars-pt6hi It was. The ending of this video is completely ridiculous. There's quite a few things wrong with the video, unfortunately.

[@Lillebooooo]

Dont use better help

[@DaSnowFangs]

Say no to Better Help Edit (One month later): He said no to better help ✌️ Good on you, you did right.

[@esobelisk3110]

wait, he did? where?

[@DaSnowFangs]

@@esobelisk3110 Yeah if you have a look in the recent youtube community comment tab

[@wdyek]

​@@esobelisk3110 community post from 8 days ago

[@David-gj9qr]

​@@esobelisk3110Community tab, scroll down a bit

[@John-Smith02]

Source?

[@play.through]

Pls say no to better help. Better help is not a good or ethical service.

[@seanbrockest3888]

"Here, answer a 10 question survey.... You sound depressed! Credit Card details to find out more!"

[@FellowHuman137]

Oh you're poor? Well how about we charge you this super cheap amount for poor people? Oh you can't pay the super cheap amount? Well f off pawper.

[@eirikrhernandez8860]

Explain why, please.

[@seanbrockest3888]

@@eirikrhernandez8860 a comment won't do it justice. There are lots of breakdowns from news and even doctors. Find one you trust.

[@natgrafton5138]

​@@eirikrhernandez8860they have a history of not properly vetting their therapists, to the point that known predators were able to continue taking on patients through better help

[@PavltheRobot]

Educational content and documentaries should be treated differently, KZbin is such a bs platform nowadays

[@cmen6895]

especially pushing BetterHelp on a video about abu- oh, sorry, a***e.

[@PavltheRobot]

@@cmen6895 Ironic, isn't it?

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

maybe but its a private platform. soo you know.

[@PavltheRobot]

@@wind_king-lh8zs You think it would be better if it was run by government?

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

@@PavltheRobot i don't know where you got that from

[@tropanealcaloid]

The scientists tried. It may not have been perfect, but she was loved and cared for in the lab. It is sad to think her happiest moments were being a lab rat

[@dollsie_lemon]

“Her NAME is _Susan_ .” Hit way harder than it should have

[@theb33prince]

kept it together until he said that. such a punch in the gut for some reason.

[@nickyliu8762]

Name is a hollow word. That name is what her useless parents gave her, I assume. And she probably never associated that name (or any other hollow words and words in general for that matter) with her identity for the first 13 years.

[@madeleine61509]

@@nickyliu8762 I don't think the point was "they took away her identity!"- it was that out of every single "codename" they could have given her, they chose something dehumanizing and self-serving. As was described in the video, the name clearly shows that the scientists always viewed her as a way to further their own career rather than to provide something better for her. Remember that she didn't choose the name Genie- that was also chosen by people who ended up mistreating her for their own selfish interests. They could have gone for something like Jane Doe (which has existed since the 1700s), but they chose something else. The reveal to the real name hits hard because it is a true reminder that this is a PERSON. Not a genie or other mythical being/fairytale, but a person and a child at that.

[@ordogordo6589]

“And as always thanks for watching 😊”

[@reedy_9619]

The name was given by people who abused her and she probably didn’t form her identity around it. Is it really relevant ?

[@shannen..93]

Better Help is not a great outlet for those with severe trauma. Though they have licensed therapists, their main work is in data collection. I know mental health help is very hard to find, so please do your research!

[@Convolutedtubules]

🙏

[@RisingRevengeance]

Not only can you not trust the company you're paying, you can't even trust the person you're talking to. A while back plenty of their therapists were unlicensed.

[@KristianKumpula]

@@RisingRevengeance Not only that but some of their therapists were/are conversion therapists who were assigned to patients with LGBT issues

[@natahndolar2142]

My therapist literally told me to do something so that he could “record data” I didn’t think much of it at the time but I am reconsidering the effectiveness of his practices

[@luisditaa]

What other online services do you reclment pls I have anxiety

[@Arianna-tf5tn]

What has this country become? We have to bleep the word abuse? Come on

[@Anon1gh3]

Thanks Susan.

[@davidlucente6768]

They are a global private company lol.

[@braidennuggies]

how dare he want to feed his family this week?

[@mrsauceman5721]

@@braidennuggies They were annoyed at the fact that he even felt the need to do that, not that he did it.

[@askatuproductions]

You mean the Youtubian Nation.

[@jerrye.6775]

Just want to say that if I was able to watch this in eighth grade science class as a documentary, I see no reason for them to censor and age restrict it here.

[@catbatrat1760]

Well, duh! KZbin isn't for 8th graders, it's for 1.5-year-olds! >:(

[@DrizzingSakuras]

​@@catbatrat1760please be sarcasm

[@nwonknu-]

​@@DrizzingSakuras Obviously?

[@typemasters2871]

Thank you for reuploading, Susan’s story is important and should not be censored for any reason

[@FLPhotoCatcher]

I downloaded the original video soon after it was published because I knew, just from the title, that it might be censored.

[@moumantai6337]

Can't agree more

[@YouTube.Is.Run.By.Terrorists]

Censorship is evil. Whoever decided it needed to be censored needs to spend some time in jail for their transgressions.

[@Baptized_in_Fire.]

​@@KZbin.Is.Run.By.Terroriststhat's not their only crime. Gallows

[@IndrasChildDeepAsleep]

​@@FLPhotoCatcher How different is it from this one?

[@TheJakeSweede]

I heard of this story for the first time many years ago. As far as I understand, she never had any real mental disability- it is all just a result of the abusive upbringing she had since being a baby, being locked in a room with no human contact. My understanding is that she would have been perfectly ordinary, if she had been brought up in a good home. It is hard to express how this story makes me feel.

[@error.418]

She did have real mental health issues, it just wasn't genetic, it was more due to nurture instead of nature. Saying it "wasn't real" is problematic at best. Also, given the parents' behavior, it's possible there was also a genetic component.

[@TheJakeSweede]

​@@error.418 I didnt say she didnt have mental health issues, I said that as far as my understanding goes she didnt have any real mental disability, IE a medical intellectual disability not caused by her upbrining, like down syndrome. It is obvious what I mean even without your "clarification", my comment is not "problematic" at all.

[@firempire229]

​@error.418 he said disability. you're just trying to find something to be mad about

[@error.418]

@@TheJakeSweede If you read the whole comment, given her parents behavior, it's also possible genetics were involved.

[@error.418]

@@firempire229 No.

[@clarkem.5269]

She wasn’t abused “for science”, her “father” abused and isolated her. The scientists tried to help her gain skills she was denied and heal, yes, they learned in the process but it’s extremely dishonest at best to paint the scientists as unethical when they had nothing to do with her becoming this way.

[@JohnDoe-kf3rd]

EXACTLY

[@greyblob1101]

Just a shit situation all around. Horrible parents, terrible foster care system, and the best outcome was for her to be a test subject.

[@darianbarber3763]

The unethical part was likely she couldn't voice when too much research was done and when aimless studies could no longer provide data, she was casted aside asap. The failures of foster care created a double whammy.

[@peterrevens8454]

@@darianbarber3763 "she couldn't voice when too much research was done" She could express basic emotions, so if she felt stressed it would be obvious to the adults. And I didn´t get the impression that they pushed her, only that all their different scientific interests interfered with each other in unpredictable (and uncoordinated) ways.

[@VicJang]

I haven’t finished watching but here’s a fun fact: in Chinese we call the sliced bread “toast” (吐司), whether it was toasted or not. It’s just called toast for all intents and purposes, as long as they’re sliced and fits in a regular toaster. When I first came to the US a decade ago, I had trouble finding sliced bread in the grocery store because all I knew to look for is toast lol. On the other hand, “bread” in Chinese is mostly referring to soft pastry, sometimes with fillings inside, like a chocolate croissant or many Asian pastry found in Chinese and Japanese bakeries.

[@SianaGearz]

Toast as in loanword toast?

[@marmoth9786]

in Sweden we usually call a grilled sandwich a toast, especially if it's been in a toasting iron and gotten the distinct triangles! square bread made for toasting is called "roastbread" (rostbröd) and after roasting it's "roasted bread" (rostat bröd) lol. sliced bread is the norm all around, we're instead specific about when it's a whole loaf (limpa).

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

so bread is sweet bread (pan dulce)?

[@reedy_9619]

In french it refers to a specific format of bread (sliced bread) made for toasting. Bread is the general term for normal bread, so no particular shape or composition. But there are many names for the different types of bread.

[@rufioh]

I didn’t expect to question my understanding of bread

[@micaelamorrigan2544]

That was quite the rant...

[@SilverishKitten]

Am i... the bread?

[@ArthurKhazbs]

@@SilverishKitten You are what you eat

[@ShaynRiot]

Hella starter getting on my nerves during the 5 minute breads rant

[@louisanelson7948]

@@SilverishKittenI don’t think I’m the bread…..

[@PhaseControlDNB]

Missed an opportunity to remove the BetterHelp part then :D

[@chonkeboi]

@@KZbin.Is.Run.By.Terroristshe’s right tho

[@werethless12]

​@@KZbin.Is.Run.By.Terroristswhy do you support a company that doesn't help people and only collects data?

[@DuyNguyen-ks8dc]

stop complaining and get a friend.

[@BananaDynastyX]

@@DuyNguyen-ks8dc It's always weird to see people defending garbage, usually garbage themselves.

[@itsOZone]

@@BananaDynastyX contrarians on the internet for ya. Doesnt matter what its about, they just wanna feel different.

[@KyrieFortune]

The scientists who studied her behavior and development are not abusers, they became her friends and helped her achieve the best life possible under the circumstances given. The only abuser shot himself when he was found out tying his daughter to a toilet for 13 years and no human contact.

[@tonysolar284]

I'd rather Call the Therapy Gecko then to reach out to Better Help.

[@catbatrat1760]

There's a therapy gecko?

[@micaelamorrigan2544]

​@catbatrat1760 yes, the gecko from geico does therapy, don't you know....

[@catbatrat1760]

@@micaelamorrigan2544 Huh... Is he good at it, at least?

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

@@catbatrat1760 he has a sothing voice

[@NightmareRex6]

what about the therapy D.O.C?

[@BlackGryph0n]

I felt your passion in this... It must have been hard, and then to have it censored by KZbin is just maddening. Thank you for sharing her story, against all odds.

[@ironfistgaming8945]

omg you are here!! what a surprise!! how are people not recognizing you LMAOOOO 🤣

[@misspinkpunkykat]

I wish they let that speech pathologist who's STILL talking about her adopt her.

[@ravenwingthecat2707]

Oh god not BetterHelp again

[@TheDutchMagicTeacher]

Please dont work with better help, they have on multiple occasions sold data and conversations between users and therapists to advertisers like facebook while users assumed that would be kept confidential.

[@PainfulCollywobbles]

WAIT REALLY!?

[@PainfulCollywobbles]

Thanks for spreading info! Hopefully people see this comment!

[@TheDutchMagicTeacher]

@@PainfulCollywobbles yes, the FTC has fined them $7.8 million for it. You can find it on the official government site of the FTC

[@morgantorium]

Not just assumed either, Betterhelp explicitly promised that information would be confidential and lied about it.

[@FyingfoxGaming]

@@PainfulCollywobbles yup even the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) has sued them last year, then as of May 6 this year BetterHelp had agreed to pay $7.8M with the FTC

[@ericmoses8281]

They asked "what can we learn" instead of "how can we heal". What she needed more than anything was a father and a mother to adopt her into a home filled with love and instead they raised her in a lab like a rat.

[@Dice-Z]

She would absolutely not have been able to adapt to a "home filled with love" the way you think.

[@bacicinvatteneaca]

You're lying and you know it. She was extremely mentally disabled and needed to learn EVERYTHING in order to be able to handle the basics of living inside a home with others taking care of her.

[@brandenwatts2931]

Horrible story, it's a shame that Better Help wasn't available in 1970, they could've sold her info to the researchers

[@Mimimo02]

If it was, people would have had more time to get abused by therapist And thats what they did, so practically, they did have BetterHelp

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

they could have given Sussan back to her abusive mother but thankfully that never happened

[@Medical_improfessionals]

When she stopped growing mentally the scientists should’ve: brought in a primary teacher >qualified to work with children >know what and how to teach them >understand their emotions and how to deal with them brought in children where her brain age was >communication >social >understand intentions

[@realMarleyMarrow]

Remove BetterHelp from future sponsors. Don’t be a grifter

[@HAMBURGER-nf1wq]

No

[@Anna133199]

That last part got me. "Her name is Susan!" She's not a science experiment, she's a person who deserves dignity. I hope she's happy right now.

[@ChagrinElectric]

Better Help is the therapy equivalent of getting your prescription meds from the guy who's always outside at 2am.

[@mallninja9805]

Not sure that's a great analogy, the 2AM guy is way more reliable & ethical than the US healthcare-industrial-complex.

[@blastingoff]

In 2008 it was reported by ABC News that she was, yet again, in psychological confinement as a ward of the state, at 51 years old. So heart breaking to hear.

[@d3adm3mori3s9]

I got distracted whilst watching this and all of a sudden he was talking intensely about what the definition of bread is, I'm so lost

[@hannnn5048]

me too

[@FizzyMoonBeam]

Don't use better help

[@MPS186282]

Commenting again because BetterHelp is awful.

[@kroneexe]

Please shut up already

[@eyespliced]

he doubled down on it. *_FFS_* what slime.

[@pijanV2]

True

[@dcklein85]

Source or proof?

[@sjr2799]

@@dcklein85 yea I wanna see too

[@scrungles7853]

The father likely had an extreme case of misophonia, and if it was better understood at the time, maybe this all could've been prevented.

[@elizabethgrey9157]

And none of the adults in those foster homes ever got punished for what they did to Genie?!

[@maestrogeicho]

welcome to the 70's lol

[@EphyMusicOfficial]

I'm so sick of KZbin and this kowtowing to new advertiser demands on censoring words like "abuse" or "dead" or "kill." It's... asinine and nonsensical. It's like we're trying to change human nature to be more childish again, because big words like "die" are just too much for us. I'm done. We're not babies.

[@mister-8658]

The irony that better help would monetize genie as a mascot is palpable.

[@ArthurKhazbs]

Oh, it's all coming together now

[@irresponsibility925]

The rest of the quote from Susan Curtis’ book on Genie: “I worked with her, and I knew her as a friend. And, of the two, the important thing was getting to know her. I would give up the rest to know her again.” Genuinely moved me to tears.

[@unbreakableunion]

The father killed himself. He never got the prison justice he deserved.

[@hasbruh2987]

Hopefully he got a different type of justice

[@EmotionalParaquat714神离天]

@@hasbruh2987 Where is his grave?

[@haydengriffiths884]

KZbin censorship was pretty overboard, you would think they would allow this language when it is being used in an educational manner and there wasnt any profanities.

[@mactep1]

As always the true villain is the sheer incompetence of the U.S. CPS.

[@intykatgames]

no better help

[@Feverything2030]

This still happens everyday to six children in Eagan Minnesota. Adam Debing's day consists of getting drunk and hitting whichever child is making him mad. He lives off social security while his wife works to escape the abuse for a the day. The Eagan MN Police won't do a thing because there are too many children and they listen to Adam when he says that she's drunk, falls down and runs into this. After he has physically forces her to drink vodka he will video tape evidence for his side of the story. When I tried to help I got stabbed😅

[@NoireShadows777]

Cop moment. Men support those with similar IQ levels, which isn't very high.

[@Raton20]

Hold up- what

[@xthebigZ25x]

So…because you’re spreading knowledge about someone’s abusive life. KZbin said “No.” But others can swear up storms and show graphic materials on the platform and it’s no problem.

[@redlight3932]

Anarcho tyranny be like

[@user-fe8gx3ie5v]

They can't do the latter, either.

[@aurora6920]

This is so true!

[@Jason9637]

KZbin didn't say no, KZbin said that kids and teens shouldn't be allowed to watch this

[@custos3249]

May have something to do with falsely claiming she was abused for science.

[@khanlakhno2757]

*Came for The Feral Child Tied To A Toilet, stayed for the 30-minute long lecture about bread*

[@freckledandred]

Better Help tied me up to a chair for 13 years and leaked my personal data

[@colon44]

I wouldn't be surprised

[@bade7]

this is not appropriate joke to make

[@theatticusblade2930]

That’s just messed up it may not be the best therapy but no need to go that far..

[@FatheredPuma81]

The sweet irony of standing on a podium stating this girl deserved better while pushing a morally bankrupt company for cash.

[@coopertolbertsmith6067]

Really KZbin??!

[@Joeyzoom]

I'm sorry the original video was unjustly censored by Google and KZbin. This video clearly has several hours of hard work, research, and editing, and deserves due credit and compensation.

[@moumantai6337]

Not to mention the content deserves more attention

[@q.e.d.9112]

A few more than “several”, IYAM.

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

clearly not enough to put a disclaimer.

[@nachotp]

Stop betterhelp sponsors please

[@gungnir2665]

This should not be silenced

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

youtube is a PRIVATE COMPANY this isn't like some government is hiding this.

[@joebagwell4009]

Damn I wish I watched the original upload now

[@theblankchannel1752]

It was very sad! I don't know what is removed/censored, but the original made me cry...

[@Aragorn430]

@@theblankchannel1752 ''apparently at 24:26 ish there's the word "feces" censored. Idk if there's other parts too. 11:25 too "he shot himself" 3:24 "abuse" (ironically not censored at 11:25)'' - comment by @AgentM124 Also the word toilet is censored in the video title

[@antonioe.2396]

I think the censored version it's pretty much the same for the viewers, but Vsauce 2 lost a lot of revenue on missed monetization

[@Aragorn430]

the OG video still exist , now unlisted watch?v=dZi2YmS2tAg

[@jcj]

you can watch with captions on to see the censored words

[@impact3457]

Welcome,everybody to another episode of "SCREEEEEEEWW KZbin!'' I will be your host tonight and I hope you enjoy our time together.

[@gabefarris7005]

Better help? Really?

[@tzarg]

the lyric "then she tied me to the wall and stuck a funnel in my mouth then fed me nothing but sauerkraut till' I was 26 and a half years old" is supposed to be fictional.

[@Hamsterhuman]

Ikr 😞 weird as al get out

[@Slapbattler666]

Video about feral child❌ Video about bread✅

[@EmilyJohnson-ro5iu]

*STOP SPONSORING BETTERHELP! PLEASE DO YOUR RESEARCH!*

[@AndPennyThought]

I couldn't believe that in my psychology education they never covered the whole story.

[@Chriva]

I bet you someone reported the thing. People just can't stand the fact that humanity stinks

[@DanFarrell98]

I’d hope most people can’t stand that fact, and then seek to change it

[@XathexX]

Humanity includes the depths of depravity as well as the exalted divine. To accept both as part of you is one of the greatest challenges. To accept & conquer it within myself is the first strep. Let's all do better ☮

[@IQdog-dj4sq]

Nah it's probably because better help is an absolute garbage of a company

[@alexicon2006]

​@@IQdog-dj4sqWhat does that have to do with the actual content getting censored?

[@innocentbystander3317]

The only reason anyone would want to hide this information is because they themselves have something to hide.

[@Comrade_Cat_Pickle]

Sad to see you still supporting "better help". You definitely know enough to do better.

[@nicks4727]

This is incredibly interesting but I cannot express how uncomfortable talking about the abstractions of language makes me. It's a new feeling. And it being inter-cut with the horrible abuse of Genie makes the feeling even stronger. I did not expect this to be a psychological horror video

[@paulmatisko5090]

Same. I wonder if she was never named. Did she know her name? Her parents thought process etc. What would be different if she never had a name.

[@MariaCamarena_OneWing]

Couldn’t have said it better myself.

[@SweetXoXMira]

Moral of the story crazy scientists are better parents then foster care.

[@Antwerp87]

Please stop pushing better health

[@aligindahouse7777]

I don't blame the researchers and scientists, I blame the foster parents. I wish she had been able to live with Susan Curtiss

[@Timothy_Gillespie]

"Abuse" is not a swear word

[@mattwolf7698]

KZbin doesn't like it

[@noobandfriends2420]

7:45 interesting question. I don't call all the different manifestations of bread, just bread. I call it "slice of bread," "bread crumb," etc. Bread is a general noun with adjectives added to give it more specificity.

[@iprobablyforgotsomething]

"you begin to develop an internal monologue using those terms" @ 14:35 . Imo it's maybe more accurate to say we develop an internal, personalized dictionary. An internal, or inner, monologue is usually a term used to refer to something had by people who think in words (as opposed to say, images) to themselves, effectively having a silent conversation with themself. Not everyone has an inner monologue, or a mind's eye (seeing pictures in their head, at will or otherwise).

[@Dice-Z]

Internal monologue is not thinking in words or opposed to images, it's just talking to yourself in your mind.

[@nemesorsi5297]

Better help again? I'm pretty disappointed, so sad to see.

[@TheSleepSteward]

im just... in shock... it just... got worse and worse every step of the way... how...? where was anyone's humanity or even common sense? i... I dont understand... its so... horrifying that it feels like it belongs in a dystopian novel... its just so absurd...

[@dcklein85]

Unjustly and unnecessarily censored.

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

my dude it IS A PRIVATE COMPANY

[@two_tier_gary_rumain]

Never seen someone get so worked up by bread.

[@geccpls]

KZbin requiring the word "abuse" be censored is absolutely batshit.

[@DaveLikesLimes]

The scientists' custody battle over Genie was the worst thing for her, I think. Babies (and developmentally that's what Genie was) need one, steady, present-every-day individual or couple of individuals that they can deeply and intensely bond with over a period of several years. Kids need a family and Genie never truly got that. 😢

[@Daddychillstudio]

I didn’t get the chance to watch the original but I’ll gladly watch this now

[@daniellassander]

There is only one greater good and that would had been to protect and slowly heal this innocent child! The story of Genie splits my mind into two, on one hand its deep sadness for what happened, and on the other a will to abandon reason and go on a blood rampage that in the end would end up helping no one but the feeling is there. A useless attempt to try to end the world for the unfairness of a world that could allow this to happen to an innocent child.

[@ironfistgaming8945]

there is so much more tragedy and injustice in this world and in the past... you just dont know yet, so my advice would be to just calm down and, remember, not everyone gets all the happiness or all the sadness that is there.

[@AudreeAdam]

This video could be named "Guy has a mental breakdown about bread"

[@gltax4442]

💀

[@cs8712]

KZbin can't keep this Genie in a bottle

[@DuyNguyen-ks8dc]

I don't think it's funny to make a joke on a serious topic that needs to be brought to attention and mentioning names like that (it is not even the true name)

[@guaranteedreducedquality]

⁠@@DuyNguyen-ks8dc Comedy often has roots in very dark places. Jokes allow us to transcend that darkness for a brief moment. I guess if knock-knock jokes are more your style, that’s fine. Just don’t try to police other people’s words bc you’re offended on someone else’s behalf. Side note: if you think this topic is so serious, why would you refer to her as “it is not even *the* true name” instead of not *her* name? You’re insulting Susan by referring to her as an object, and I’m deeply offended on her behalf (Last one was sarcasm, I know I have to specify that for you, it’s just to show you that your mentality is toxic even within its own boundaries)

[@wind_king-lh8zs]

@@guaranteedreducedquality you have earnd my respect ...i guess

[@JohnDoe-kf3rd]

@@guaranteedreducedquality based

[@tashows]

The video is interesting, but honestly it could be 1/3 the length and still be an amazing story.

[@BobDebon]

yup, very rambly

[@Koceto2011]

It's the best to watch vsauce at night. It just hits different

[@Mu51kM4n]

We need equal competition to KZbin and Google. Too much power in one company's hands

[@calibursatsujin3112]

monopolies ARE allowed if they're big enough, its ridiculous

[@neonhalos]

problem is that the people need to want to change platforms for it to work. not the content creators, but the viewers. unfortunate fact of the matter is that people don't want to have to go to another platform, even for a creator they really like, bc yt is ingrained in everyone's minds as The Place to go. it's never going to happen. people don't like change.

[@sandrafaith]

Honestly, it's Google that's the problem. They have long since abandoned their "Don't be evil" credo.

[@cefcephatus]

The competition where the referee doesn't care about other competitors won't make any difference. And actually, the referee is part of why a competitor stands out. I'm talking about users of the platform, without enough people using it, no one will come to it. They will keep comparing it to the bigger one and it will fail. Only if a new one emerged with a feature out-of-the-box, that the big one can't provide in 2 years that will make it work. Provided that they aren't sold out to the big one at any point in time. And you might already know how hard a tech business to sustain in 2 years.

[@doodoo2065]

There is competition, it is the users the ones who start making the difference