"Before we used them as proxies for the itch that reality shows exist to scratch." Wow, such a powerful and true statement.
@HelloHello-tm7uc4 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I couldn't have ever said it any better!
@mrkinla4 жыл бұрын
I agree, Barry. Excellent observation.
@hellothere55794 жыл бұрын
Dont know what that mean
@SpiritGirlSF4 жыл бұрын
Just like Joan being known for her gender fluidity....
@alexwhite55794 жыл бұрын
@@HelloHello-tm7uc lllll k
@pimd69984 жыл бұрын
You mean all this time they could have been friends?
@monmothma33584 жыл бұрын
I see what you did there... :)
@mrkinla4 жыл бұрын
😀
@aweeks0624 жыл бұрын
I legit read this lne in the voice lol. Thanks! Your awesome :)
@gaden744 жыл бұрын
Ashley Ashley Bobashley I did too lol
@mylifeisaparty4 жыл бұрын
Nice
@jeremyud3 жыл бұрын
Okay, this needs to be said- Joan Crawford would have never, ever, EVER walked out of a fan event like they showed her doing on Feud. This was a woman who personally autographed all of her photos, especially towards the end of her career.
@maggiekarabel1232 жыл бұрын
She lived and died for her fans. She signed all responses to fan letters herself. It really took me out of the show because there’s NO WAY that happened.
@PungiFungi2 жыл бұрын
Feud is just over dramatic trash.
@maggiekarabel1232 жыл бұрын
@@PungiFungi I thought the performances were good, although Susan Sarandon was a bit lacking. It just bothers me that this was all presented as truth when it wasn’t. Good for Olivia de Havilland for fighting back.
@PungiFungi2 жыл бұрын
@@maggiekarabel123 I think all these actresses would take umbrage on how they were "powerless" because there were no "women's rights" back then. Revisionist history trash.
@maggiekarabel1232 жыл бұрын
@@PungiFungi I agree it’s just that Olivia was the only one still alive. Joan Crawford would NOT have approved.
@tylerkochman10074 жыл бұрын
just saying, if Joan supposedly had enough pull to stop Bette from winning, pretty sure she would have had enough pull to have gotten herself nominated in the first place
@tylerkochman10074 жыл бұрын
I just got to 40:20 and am thrilled that they nearly make the same exact point I did!!
@tylerkochman10074 жыл бұрын
@Chrysaura It's a forty-something minute video, and she says it more than forty minutes in. I commented before I got to that part, and later commented that she had said nearly the same thing I had as soon as I noticed. This is an instance of parallel thinking. When you accuse things that lacks sexism of being sexist, you minimize the actual seriousness of sexism in our society.
@kerrychristensen72044 жыл бұрын
@@tylerkochman1007 👍 it was a bit of a hair trigger there really
@Garsons-oq4lh4 жыл бұрын
@Jarred Knox There is no evidence that Joan swayed votes. Bette would go on about how Joan told the New York nominees not to vote for her. But this was stated (and often repeated) only when Joan had passed away years earlier.
@sexyskeleton74 жыл бұрын
@Tyler Kochman Shouldn’t you finish the whole video before leaving a comment? Is that not common sense? Both of you jumped to the comments before finishing the video to try and prove something to a women that obviously heavy researched the subject, that to me sounds like mansplaining. Also it’s kinda ugly explain to tell a women (if @chrysaura identifies as so) about the seriousness of sexism, since you don’t face the same oppression as a women.
@jlcii4 жыл бұрын
Learning more about Bette Davis makes me love her even more. She was such a damn Pioneer and strong woman. Absolute Legend...
@abandonedfragmentofhope54154 жыл бұрын
This along with making me learn to love and respect Bette Davis it has also done the same for Joan Crawford for me.
@bvaldes37034 жыл бұрын
I stan here and resent a lot not living in the same timline as her
@abandonedfragmentofhope54154 жыл бұрын
@@bvaldes3703 I feel the same about Greta Garbo. I was born 5 years after her death.
@JudgeJulieLit4 жыл бұрын
Bette and Olivia de Havilland.
@JudgeJulieLit4 жыл бұрын
@Jarred Knox *appreciated
@caaronjolras3 жыл бұрын
ryan murphy's works seem like he just likes the aesthetic of certain eras/stars and knows some basic facts and myths about them and tries to frame everything as historically accurate
@miz_logo_lee2 жыл бұрын
My take on Murphy is he is the most high profile fan fiction writer. (Perhaps excluding Tarantino).
@douglasfreer2 жыл бұрын
It also seems like it’s about the legend itself over presenting the facts.
@sickheadache99032 жыл бұрын
It was TV Trash at its Worst.
@valsainking2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's really a shame that a gay industry person, who one would suspect/expect would have a uniquely sensitive and nuanced perspective and affinity for portraying women's issues with empathy and depth, ultimately fell for every possible misogynistic and sensationalist (and often misinformed) cliché. 🥺 However, this video does something no other has been able to do: It takes no sides and presents these two women's strengths and flaws in equal measure, thereby humanizing them to a refreshing extent. I actually came away with renewed respect for both, and, while I am primarily a Crawford fanatic, I also appreciate Davis' pioneering cause and fully recognize the monumental misogynistic obstacles both she and Joan were forced to struggle against throughout their long careers. The only thing about Davis that irks me is the petty nature of her treatment of Joan on the set of "Sweet Charlotte" and the ridiculous lies she spread about Joan decades after that fateful 1963 Oscars ceremony, especially years after Joan's own death, a fact which not only cast unfounded aspersions on Joan, but also overshadowed Miss Bancroft's enormous achievement as the rightful winner of the Best Actress Award in 1963.
@sickheadache99032 жыл бұрын
@@valsainking it was even on TMC with Robert Osborne who said That Both Davis and Crawford were 100% Professional and Nothing Happened on the Set of Baby Jane..Now after the shoot it was those bitches Hedda Harper and Louella Parsons who wrote BS to drum up more viewers to their Rag Papers. And if it was the his truly endless BS between two Aging Had Beens, Crawford and Davis would not agreed to do Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte. This BS TV Program made it look like Bette Davis and Joan Crawford could not FART without this Over Dramatic Bitches going into a Tizzy. It was truly Trashy TV..and Didn’t win any major Emmy awards( They all saw through the trash)!
@noellawson414 жыл бұрын
ALMOST 50 MINUTES!? You're spoiling us & i am here for it all.
@meritofapproval4 жыл бұрын
I know!!! 🎥👍🏾
@senguptasayn4 жыл бұрын
100% correct.My thoughts exactly!
4 жыл бұрын
This is a documentary!
@nasb22184 жыл бұрын
yeeeeeeeeeeees
@RaymondHng4 жыл бұрын
Twenty-five minutes per actress is fair.
@thewordshifter4 жыл бұрын
This is one of the most underrated channels on KZbin. How do you not have 10 million subscribers.
@evanseago23014 жыл бұрын
I know right?!!!!
@vinnym56074 жыл бұрын
Same. Quality content. People don't know what's good.
@psycane84624 жыл бұрын
Niche subject matter and misogyny but I totally agree that she deserves that many subscribers
@Lexie717824 жыл бұрын
A C I agree
@farrellmcnulty9094 жыл бұрын
@@chi9670 Older actresses are much more fun and interesting than the little whats-her-names that are out there today.
@chrisgaga69703 жыл бұрын
And it took 58 years for a lone youtuber to finally disillusion the feud. They would've appreciate your efforts.
@Yourmomgoestocolledge Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂 I don't think you know who these people are. They'd have never recognized anyone on youtube.
@brahmabkitty03 Жыл бұрын
@@Yourmomgoestocolledgeever! They wouldn’t have done well with these technological advances
@AndreaCandido-tp4kk3 ай бұрын
... I have had no sisTer wiTh which i live or would have lived
@Cheyne_TetraMFG4 жыл бұрын
Yo the clip of Bette Davis saying "c'mon Oscar, let's you and me get drunk" needs to become a meme yesterday
@jeanettewyatt95253 жыл бұрын
that part is hilarious. and i would use that that meme!
@riqrimoli6 ай бұрын
iconic
@roxy202310004 жыл бұрын
I think the show Feud could have gone away with it with a framing device, kind of like in "I Tonya" where every character tell their side of the story, so it's more of a "he said she said" or they could have framed it as an investigation, like "Phantom of the opera" (the book).
@everythingclassic17054 жыл бұрын
FEUD does use a framing device through the documentary filmmakers who interview the celebrities who knew Davis and Crawford at the beginning of each episode. Yet it's done so poorly and comes out phony.
@Dropitlikeitshotspot Жыл бұрын
I so appreciate your inclusion of Murphy’s incorrect characterizations. As a former history major, I personally think it’s imperative that at least the majority of the truth is available when it comes to these filterless, flawless, truly talented artists of the past. With technology seeming to take over creativity, I feel it’s vital.
@franklinstephen3268 Жыл бұрын
Hey there! I came across your comment and I just had to reach out and say hi. Your perspective really caught my attention and I would love to get to know you better. Would you be interested in chatting sometime? Looking forward to hearing back from you!😊
@cdedberry8 ай бұрын
He is being creative duh
@haintedhouse2990Ай бұрын
agree - Ryan Murphy loves to re-write history - when his name was on the Dirty John series it was no surprise that Betty Broderick came across more like Joan of Arc rather than the entitled sociopath who murdered 2 people.
@carolinashoemaker59384 жыл бұрын
Olivia de Havilland saying she was powerless to do anything because this was before the 70's feminist movement has to be the most ridiculous thing this clowns could've come up with, she SUED her own studio Ryan. Edit: and she won
@vinnym56074 жыл бұрын
I just watched the BKR Olivia 1947 video.
@carolinashoemaker59384 жыл бұрын
@Tracy Lands 😭
@terry41374 жыл бұрын
Tracy Lands, Yep! We all do...
@feloniousbutterfly4 жыл бұрын
I just wish they would do even a night's worth of research before writing this tat.
@LFire123 жыл бұрын
Utterly agree. De Havilland was an elegant, kind lady, who carried herself with grace but would let you have it with both barrels when she thought you'd stepped over the line. Talk about iron fist in a velvet glove, she handled three of tinsel town's most notorious batchelors Flynn, and Houston, and Jimmy Stewart in her personal life all of whom pursued her, argued constantly for better roles for herself, managing to twin 2 Oscars in the process. And when she had enough of the studios messing around she took them on and one, got a piece of litigation named after her that worked in the favour of all her fellow actors..then upstakes and left Hollywood, only coming back to do what she wanted. Portraying her of all people as some 'oh we were so helpless', when she was an actual icon of female progress at the time was beyond farcical.
@agcons4 жыл бұрын
I cannot understand why Bette's performance as Jane would be dismissed as not great acting. There is a scene where Jane is performing one of her old vaudeville routines and is then shocked and horrified by suddenly seeing herself in a mirror without expecting to. Davis conveys masterfully Jane's brief but terrible encounter with reality in that moment. For me it's one of the best moments in cinema.
@RaymondHng4 жыл бұрын
ALL RIGHT, BLANCHE HUDSON!! Miss Big, Fat Movie Star! Miss Lousy Sticking Actress! Push a button...ring a bell And you think...the whole damn world comes running, dontcha?!
@newbiechu70244 жыл бұрын
@@RaymondHng Blanche: uhhm Jane? I'm ready for my close up.
@RaymondHng4 жыл бұрын
@@newbiechu7024 Different film. Different year.
@cliffgaither4 жыл бұрын
That's an excellent observation. I think people have to take these fine actors as they were :: individual talents. Crawford was very sympathetic & human in this film. Her facial expressions were very "sorry" for so many things in her past in relation to her relationship w / her "sister", Jane. Davis was a horrible character throughout most of the film & didn't realize until the end what sisters could / should have meant to each other. They were both great in the film. Of all the films they made, this one was the culmination of years of individual, professional artistry that brought them together.
@christinemcclaurin7733 Жыл бұрын
But you ah Blanch, you ah in that chair!!❤❤❤
@Bartcmh2 жыл бұрын
Ryan Murphy should have put a disclaimer at the beginning of each episode like they did for Inventing Anna. This story is entirely true (except the parts that are made up). I always thought that was clever.
@Sympathy_forLadyVengeance Жыл бұрын
or like in The Great (an ocasionally true story)
@natalieford32389 ай бұрын
Same for "Dahmer"
@Kurtperry414 жыл бұрын
“Joan Crawford Meme Account” these are words I never thought I’d hear together
@phoenixfritzinger91854 жыл бұрын
I did find one on Instagram a while back but it was more like a Mommie Dearest meme account
@TheDRMISTERY4 жыл бұрын
26:18 They're hysterical! :)
@Chris-ot9bk4 жыл бұрын
The Fact That A Joan Crawford Meme Account Is Real And Ryan Murphy Used A Meme In His Movie, Thinking It Was Fact Is Hilarious To Me
@carolinashoemaker59384 жыл бұрын
A thing that really bothered me about feud is just how infantilized Bette and Joan, it made them out to be as poor old women who were miserable because the men around them manipulated them to be so. Bette and Joan had a difficult time in the system, as every actress did, but Bette actively challenged it with everything she did, to paint her and Joan as mere puppets who have no agency at all over their lives because of the men around them is so patronizing to the lives of these women and all they accomplished.
@amelie42733 жыл бұрын
But isn’t that the whole point? They were undermined by the men around them by being pitted against one another as a reactionary ploy to make them less powerful within the cinematic industry. Why wouldn’t they be miserable at being manipulated by the men around them who were in charge. That was the whole point of the series, to show that these two exceptionally talented women were made to feel insecure by the powerful men around them who manipulated them both into despising one another because the industry couldn’t have two powerful and talented women together at one time, especially ones who physically past their ‘prime’. It’s fascinating how much the onscreen and behind the screen mimicked one another so much
@PungiFungi2 жыл бұрын
@@amelie4273 but that entire point is just revisionist history. It is one thing if that point is true but entirely moot when it’s not. The studios want asses in the seats, to get maximum profits while paying their stars with as little as they can get away with it and they are not interested in stars politics and infighting. It is well known that many actresses of their generation scoff at the Feminist movement…. Entitled pretend victims who want all the supposed perks of men but none of their societal expectations and responsibilities. These women who lived through WWII saw what men went through.
@biancachristie3 жыл бұрын
Norma’s vampy photoshoot also famously resulted in her and Irving finally having a family, despite his fragility and health issues. So, yeah, awkward, but also effective. It also meant that Irving hired a new house photographer for MGM
@brandelynnefreleng7597 Жыл бұрын
Source? I believe you but I’d like to read more about it!
@biancachristie Жыл бұрын
@@brandelynnefreleng7597 Mark Viera's biography about Irving Thalberg. It's really good!
@mustaphaabozaid56554 жыл бұрын
I know you are not a superhero fan, but this is like "AVENGERS: ENDGAME" of BeKind Rewind
@kostajovanovic37114 жыл бұрын
For what?
@mustaphaabozaid56554 жыл бұрын
@@kostajovanovic3711 For the duration "her longest video until now", the topic, the huge amount of research done, the stars included "this is one of very few episodes talking equally about 2 stars" and most importantly ... the perspective and the way she tackled the whole thing; It could have been a one-liner tuned-down copy of FX Feud, but thank god it isn't. So hopefully, this BKR Endgame will have the same success and follow level of the original ENDGAME
@steffid69494 жыл бұрын
@@RoPiDe oh my god you're so right!
@kostajovanovic37114 жыл бұрын
@@mustaphaabozaid5655 deep apologies, i missread your initial comment thinking you want a bkr on endgame
@mustaphaabozaid56554 жыл бұрын
@@kostajovanovic3711 Yeah 😂 Imagine that 😂😂
@manthony2254 жыл бұрын
Beautifully done! I have thoughts: 1. Joan should have been nominated for best supporting actress for Baby Jane. Yes, she's on screen for most of the movie but her part does support the antagonist Jane. See? Feud avoided. 2. Totally agree with you on Sarandon's performance lacking fire. 3. Zeta Jones was miscast in Feud and the writers didn't seem to have a grasp on Olivia's personality. 4. I had no idea Joan had freckles. I love them!
@jaydefelice98874 жыл бұрын
I also agree with #2 with the emphasis the filmmaker stated though, that she wished there was a little more fire in her belly. It was there IMO for sure, it just needed a little more. I remember vividly thinking when hearing about the casting of Lange & Sarandon that I was both excited & worried about the casting. Excited to see these 2 greats together, worried that they were both so distinctive themselves to be able to correctly portray 2 such well known & documented real people. I think Sarandon did a better job. One of the things I love most about Lange are her unique little mannerisms. Those did not help me believe she was Crawford. The little giggles, for example, that work so well in her original characters showed she could not shed her past when playing this character or that the FEUD directors/producers either didn't care or were too scared to bring her little mannerisms up. Also I 100% agree about Zeta-Jones!!!
@RaymondHng4 жыл бұрын
Nowadays they do not nominate two performers from the same film in the same category. But would Crawford even entertain the idea of the studio campaigning her for a Supporting Actress nomination? I don't think her ego would permit that. Had she been nominated for Best Supporting Actress, she would have been up against Patty Duke who eventually won the category.
@Garsons-oq4lh4 жыл бұрын
@@RaymondHng BAFTA nominated both Bette and Joan for Best Foreign Actress 1964 (Baby Jane was released in the UK in 1963).
@alastairmackay59534 жыл бұрын
Your third point: I couldn't agree more. They didn't just miss that boat. They didn't even book a ticket.
@Starkardur4 жыл бұрын
Susan Sarandon always lacks fire. She's incredibly limited in her delivery of lines and performance, always has and always will HOWEVER I do think she did a decent job and was better than Jessica Lange who I find to be massively overrated.
@JaymesMansfield3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see these videos back! 💕
@ostorozhnost3 жыл бұрын
I used to watch these videos at least once a week so I’m relieved they’re back! P.s. Jaymes you’re a goddess ✨
@hollyobaby69493 жыл бұрын
Omg Danny Devito I love your work
@jennye73003 жыл бұрын
Um hi i love you 💕
@derlaurenz3 жыл бұрын
@@hollyobaby6949 XD XD XD
@justin__roderick3 жыл бұрын
@@derlaurenz to quote Jujubee: sinful
@xww68494 жыл бұрын
The “hagsploitation” movie titles are just... wow
@Garsons-oq4lh4 жыл бұрын
Joan and Bette spawned a regrettable trend in motion pictures.
@abandonedfragmentofhope54154 жыл бұрын
@@Garsons-oq4lh Not all the films are bad. Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte was good.
@TheSongwritingCat4 жыл бұрын
What's the Matter with Helen? is very silly. It doesn't feel scary because everything is so fake.
@tracydavis89824 жыл бұрын
@@abandonedfragmentofhope5415, yes it was.....love Hush, Hush....Sweet Charlotte! Whatever Happened To Baby Jane (1962), StraightJacket (1964), and Berserk (1967), were pretty good Movies too!!!
@SpitefulRennie4 жыл бұрын
The just sound made up 😂
@MakaykayLAMB4 жыл бұрын
The way Bette Davis speaks is so wonderful.
@injieanis45813 жыл бұрын
Sassy but classy. I aspire to speak like this!!!
@reepacheirpfirewalker86293 жыл бұрын
There are others who sure try to imitate her.
@SkyeID7 ай бұрын
yeah, she had that Trans Europa Express accent.
@jenniferschillig37683 жыл бұрын
What you said about actors not having the same "sell-by date" problem as actresses made me grin...it reminded me of one of my favorite bits in The Golden Girls. (This was aired when Cary Grant was still alive.) Blanche is visiting a psychiatrist due to her depression at having started menopause...she fears it means the end of her desirability as a woman. When the shrink tries to reassure her, she says, "You don't understand...you men don't have to worry about aging the way women do. Cary Grant could still have his pick of women and he's in his eighties! You show me an actress in her fifties that can do that. And don't tell me 'Joan Collins', that woman belongs in a wax museum."
@josephbernados16494 жыл бұрын
Bette and Joan's feud needs a Wicked-style re-imagining where they were both actually amiable, or friends even, playing up the feud to keep their names in papers.
@caitlin27013 жыл бұрын
I want this movie or series! I think it could be a really interesting take on the industry
@almahayworth42803 жыл бұрын
"until....!!!"
@steffid69494 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how much work it takes to make a video essay this long, I really appreciate it. I adore this channel so much, every few mounts I found myself rewatching all of the episodes. Keep up the good work, love from Serbia
@mariosanchezgumiel77573 жыл бұрын
After "Whatever Happened to Baby Jane?", Bette Davis made an extraordinary film in UK, "The Nanny" (1965). I think she should have received another nomination for that performance. I read once that that movie was one of her favorites, and her role one of those she was more proud of.
@WillScarlet164 жыл бұрын
"Joan has always been envious of Bette's voluptuous figure - in fact, Joan used to borrow Bette's bras to use as shoulder pads." - Vincent Price at Bette Davis' Roast
@johnlewinski63593 жыл бұрын
want to see this roast
@user-hb4zz4gh5e2 жыл бұрын
Wait, I don’t get it?
@unclegumbald9894 жыл бұрын
I never considered “Feud” to be historically accurate. I mean, c’mon... it’s Ryan Murphy!
@Elven.4 жыл бұрын
I didn't watch it ,but I bet most people that watch entertainment in general don't know about the writers and the way they portray things. They just watch something and that's all they know about it
@bvaldes37034 жыл бұрын
Sometimes he is enjoyable, at best. Some he is impossible to stand. That's why I couldn't pass through 1 episode of Hollywood
@foxycinnamon73074 жыл бұрын
I watched for Sarandon and Lange -- I knew a LOT was iffy, but it was great to see them chew that scenery. And oddly touching, like when B.D. finds out that acting takes talent: Bette tries to help her w/her tiny part and it is not easy!
@unclegumbald9894 жыл бұрын
@@Elven. Yeah, I learned that the hard way with "Elizabeth" =\
@unclegumbald9894 жыл бұрын
@@foxycinnamon7307 Yeah, the acting talent was the main reason why I watched it. I thought Sarandon was fantastic. You get used to her being this witty bitch, and in a split-second she can make you sympathize with her....
@sarcadam882 жыл бұрын
I just finished Feud (finally) on Hulu and I’ll just say, what a gift your channel is.
@thatsyouropinion94344 жыл бұрын
Never realized how much Susan Sarandon looked like Bette Davis.
@AnnoyingAsianWitch4 жыл бұрын
That was the first thing I noticed when watching Feud.
@Starkardur4 жыл бұрын
She does in a way but it's mostly the eyes. The mouth area and the nose are completely different. an Older Uma Thurman would have been perhaps a better candidate from a lookalike perspective (the eyes and the nose)
@thatsyouropinion94344 жыл бұрын
Gunnhild Edwards neh
@PungiFungi4 жыл бұрын
I thought she looked like Rosalind Russell, especially in The Women.
@QueenOfKings04024 жыл бұрын
Those eyes
@fajarzakri49364 жыл бұрын
The first installment really got me hooked on both actresses and their respective filmographies. Thank you for that-and this! To say that you quenched our collective thirst is an understatement.
@angelcitystudio Жыл бұрын
WAY TO GO Bette and Joan! 60 years later and we are STILL talking about you.
@user-sn5jr1ji9h3 жыл бұрын
Joan Crawford accepting the Oscar on Anne Bancroft's behalf was an absolute savage move.
@harperstacey96043 жыл бұрын
Bette davis was full of rage when that happened.
@JaneDoe-uy8yk3 жыл бұрын
@@harperstacey9604 😲😲
@pbohearn2 жыл бұрын
I love her! Hahahaha
@ralphkramden20892 жыл бұрын
It was AWESOME! Joan was no dummy!
@judyanne35632 жыл бұрын
@@lindahayes7628 what?????
@tanzeilmoustapha79424 жыл бұрын
Hey can you do one on "Who's afraid of Virginia Woolf", in relation to the tumultuous relationship of Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor. Basically how that fuelled their incredible performances!
@caitlin27013 жыл бұрын
Pretty please do!
@jeremyud3 жыл бұрын
And it fits into her rant about Hollywood casting younger actresses for parts that call for older women. Martha was supposed to be about in her late 40's. Elizabeth Taylor was 34.
@heywoodjablome75353 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyud I remember reading that in the original stage production, Martha was supposed to be 52
@sevenoctobers74712 жыл бұрын
Murphy's work is a top-notch example of intellectual laziness. To treat the memory of Joan and Bette like office drivel, to make money out of baseless rumors, and to dismiss Olivia's lived experience as if she was a non-entity?! God, I'm livid!!! I have no respect for Ryan Murphy's work. Your work, however, I am simply grateful that it even exists in the KZbin-sphere. The editing is slick. The content and delivery is unrivaled. Thank you for all the work that you do for this overlooked segment of the Hollywood film industry. 💗🇵🇭
@Confeggi_davis4 жыл бұрын
Ive been waiting for this one, its just adding to my current obsession WITH THESE TWO.
@floraposteschild41844 жыл бұрын
If only all these ladies were still around to sue Ryan Murphy.
@kerriethompson20734 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that Olivia de Havelin (sp) sued Ryan Murphy over Feud. I don't think she was successful however.
@reikun864 жыл бұрын
@@kerriethompson2073 and she's the only one still alive
@kerriethompson20734 жыл бұрын
@@reikun86 at 104 years young this month. Can you believe it? She was also close personal friends with Robery Osborn the founder of TCM may he rest in peace. We should really have this show on there somehow.
4 жыл бұрын
If they were alive he wouldn't dare to touch their names, to begin with
@zacblake92494 жыл бұрын
Kerrie Thompson DeHaviland just died.
@bleaf_2 жыл бұрын
Beauty standards baffle me because I think Bette Davis was drop dead gorgeous. Absolutely stunning! I'll never understand it.
@dalehoward3704 Жыл бұрын
Me too!
@christinemcclaurin7733 Жыл бұрын
Bette is the Best!
@Hallaneious Жыл бұрын
Bette used to think early in her career she wasn't that nice looking. It maybe helped her do outstanding work to the point - she'd convince you otherwise of how she & some in the studio thought. But in her later years, she reflected back and said 'she really was a good looking woman after all'. But I agree, I always thought she was a unique cutie😊.
@robjack2804 Жыл бұрын
Quite right. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rn7Vq2iLhcZ5fqs
@larapalma3744 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely ❤❤❤
@bradleycramer41104 жыл бұрын
I’m hoping for a part 3 discussing “Hush, Hush... Sweet Charlotte” because there’s so much more to the feud. Still, love your videos so much.
@daltonbelflower25304 жыл бұрын
Yes. I'd love to see more on that movie too!
@windstorm10005 ай бұрын
It'd be great cuz all hell broke loose for Crawford. Lots of bitchy gossip. Get divine feud by considene he covers that movie. It's compulsory reading and much better than Feud, that sorry unfactual. Badly acted mess
@dominiquedouglas47084 жыл бұрын
You are without doubt one of the most intelligent commentators on old Hollywood I have ever heard. I admire the research and work that you put in to every video you make. Honestly, well done for this video. It's fabulous.
@mgbryansullivan43783 жыл бұрын
Hello Dominique, How are you doing ?
@willdenham3 жыл бұрын
Love the iconic film Baby Jane. Actually studied it as part of an advanced film history class in film school, that focused on noir. A blockbuster of this magnitude that contained this caliber of acting/script/photography simply can't exist in today's system, despite it's financial and artistic success. This type of masterpiece is cemented in one incredible era that today's Hollywood resembles very little. This type of artistry is found only in lower budget outsiders who cannot benefit from the production values once deservedly lavished on them.
@ferociousgumby4 жыл бұрын
What amazes me is how we always root for Jane in "Whatever Happened to. . ." Somehow, by some miracle of talent, she makes Jane into a sympathetic character with that drunken scene where she explains her own failure: "They just didn't love you enough." The scene where she glimpses herself in the mirror and actually SEES what she has become is a moment that mingles horror with despair. Who else could have pulled this off?
@davidallen5083 жыл бұрын
Whichever way you view it , this is a really entertaining and riveting movie.
@reepacheirpfirewalker86293 жыл бұрын
Another classic that I hope tinsel town doesn't try to recreate. There's nobody in Hollywood who could do it better. Or write it better than the original.
@jeremyud2 жыл бұрын
@@reepacheirpfirewalker8629 They did recreate it. A 1990 t.v. moving starring Vanessa and Lynn Redgrave.
@akrenwinkle2 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyud I saw it. Tepid.
@PungiFungi2 жыл бұрын
There was no true villainess or heroine in the movie.
@AznRUs4 жыл бұрын
Its funny how Hollywood would cast older male stars with young female stars. This is why I find it hard to watch Audrey Hepburn movies. The male costars she was cast with are old enough to be her father.
@TeamSukiyo4 жыл бұрын
Yeah Sabrina, Funny Face and My Fair Lady make me uncomfortable. I only bear them because Audrey is so great.
@ilanarhian4 жыл бұрын
At least George Peppard was age appropriate
@TeamSukiyo4 жыл бұрын
William Brynn Yeah, but Audrey was out of her 20s then and Cary Grant looked better for his age, so it wasn’t as noticable a difference tablaqueen Gregory Peck wasn’t half bad either
@MM-eb4uq4 жыл бұрын
it's not "funny". It's gross. Men seem to only be attracted to women who could be their daughters. Pedophile, you say?
@paulapdlh4 жыл бұрын
@@TeamSukiyo yeah! don't forget love in the afternoon... gary cooper was 28 years older than her. just gross
@vickitaylor680 Жыл бұрын
Anne Bancroft deserved that Oscar. It was a very moving movie and performance.
@connievino4226 Жыл бұрын
Not the point.
@watthaile20539 ай бұрын
A Moving Movie ???
@fad3d2477 ай бұрын
@@watthaile2053?? What do you not understand
@watthaile20537 ай бұрын
@@fad3d247 I don't understand the degree of your density and naivety. Hehehe .... You poor thing.
@mhope68994 жыл бұрын
So much research and information! This doesn’t go unnoticed or unappreciated! I love your channel and great work!
@natesdriz34804 жыл бұрын
i love anne bancroft i believe she’s one of the most underrated actresses ever. Do you think she should have won for The Graduate? Did Katherine Hepburn deserve it for Guess who’s coming to dinner?
@Kevin-rg3yc4 жыл бұрын
Kellie I feel Katherine only true deserved Oscar win was for the lion in winter. I feel Anne brancorft, Faye dunawy for Bonnie snd cycle or Audrey Hepburn in wait until dark should’ve won
@tjh124734 жыл бұрын
@Kellie I agree. In some ways, I do think Bancroft and Hepburn should switch Oscars, all though both were fantastic in 1962 performances. But I agree with you, Hepburn should have won from probably have one her first for Alice Adams or Philadelphia Story, second for Long Days Journey Into Night, and would keep 3rd and 4th wins. The 4th win because her and Henry Fonda's win for On Golden Pond got me interested in classic film at young age. Bancroft was amazing in Agnes of God. Also, I think Davis won for the wrong roles too.
@tjh124734 жыл бұрын
I believe Hepburn was stated saying the win for Guess Who's Coming to Dinner was a shared win for her and Spencer Tracy.
@katwil894 жыл бұрын
I have never understood the fuss about Katherine Hepburn. I feel that she plays herself in just about every role. Even changing her hairstyle and wardrobe to you know, play another person is too much of a departure for her. She was good at playing Katherine Hepburn I guess, but Anne Bancroft was the far superior actress.
@jaydefelice98874 жыл бұрын
@Kellie Not at all, I hear people say that all the time. Hepburn should have won for "Alice Adams" & "The Philadelphia Story" and not for any of her wins. Although I am fine with the "On Golden Pond" win even though I prefer Diane Keaton that year form the nominees. Now Anne Bancroft is my all time favorite actress (sharing the title w/ Ellen Burstyn), and I would be more than happy to have seen her win for "The Graduate" over Hepburn who I would rank 5th among that year's nominees. However, Edith Evans in the small British film "The Whisperers" is who I'd rank first only slightly before Bancroft. Hepburn was good in "The Lion In Winter" but Streisand should have won for that solo. Bancroft should have gone supporting for "Agnes of God" it's a very plausible category for the character and she might have won a 2nd Oscar.
@robinstevenson66902 жыл бұрын
Outstanding! This is far more than a film essay. I sincerely believe that it belongs in the category of full-fledged documentaries. But - - more than that - - though it is a video, I had the feeling that I was watching a film that you were directing (even though you weren't directing live actors, you were selecting moments from their performances to tell an intricate, multi-layered story). Really great work!
@annasmith60904 жыл бұрын
It's so weird that FX keeps making these women centric "biopics" and deliberately skewing the script away from the truth. Like, if you're going to tell women's stories then tell the truth. Half the viewers will believe their lies.
@SomeBF3 жыл бұрын
All biopics are lies for the sake of story lol I wish there was just more media literacy taught to the population but the powers that be dont really have any interest in that; a critical population aren’t easy customers
@HisameArtwork2 жыл бұрын
well for what it's worth the mini series brought me here and now I know what a Bette Davis and Joan Crawford are...human beings, former actreses that contributed a lot to the lives of american women. We studied old films in film university but it was Lumiere, Melies, that horrid trash of a nation is born, then sort of jumped to Fight Club, Memento and national films that won the Cannes like 4 months, 3 weeks...a film about abortion during communisms, which had glaring plot holes and inaccuracies , but tugged at heart strings. But you are right people will think it's true, so glad we have this channel to clear stuff up, it would take me to much time to research this and see if it's true and I have work to do, bills to pay.
@SlimKeith112 жыл бұрын
They're more into entertainment than historical realism. It's usually men who write then green light these productions, they believe woman only want to see other women fight/argue. It's really disappointing.
@hamjohn87372 жыл бұрын
@@HisameArtwork Ahhh "History of Film 101".....yes I took that same course 35 years ago and though Fight Club wasn't' out at that time, we had some trash to watch and 'discuss'....if it weren't for TCM, I wouldn't know 10% about Hollywood's Golden Age like I do now. "History of Film 101 really didn't teach what needs to be taught.
@ermerendovasquez17684 жыл бұрын
I love how Katherine Hepburn is just there chilling at @9:17
@PungiFungi4 жыл бұрын
Probably bitching to that woman about how evil the studio is.
@ladyredl32103 жыл бұрын
@Dee Ayy Why Night Productions she absolutely was.
@amityislandchum3 жыл бұрын
I would honestly watch you do a 10-hour deep dive into every episode of Feud, exploring what they got right/wrong, the period details, and the backstory of every minor character. Please!
@swooningtree4 жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how satisfying it is to listen to someone who's done loads of research (obviously out of love and interest as much as out of the quest for drama or knowledge) about Joan and Bette and doesn't just rely on the same old cliches and cold takes as every other book, documentary, video and TV show ever.
@owl21924 жыл бұрын
Bette Davis is my favorite actress (or actor in general) and Whatever Happened to Baby Jane is my favorite of hers!
@joyciejd96733 жыл бұрын
Excellent. I am 71 and although I remember (as a kid) Anne Bancroft in “The Miracle Worker” and “The Graduate” I knew very little about her other than her marriage to Mel Brooks. This is very informative and so well researched! I thank you for keeping her legacy alive….and Bette and Joan and all the wonderful actresses from a past time….because there are no personalities…and wonderful actresses today as fascinating as these two. Thank you x 1,000,000
@brettgreene94924 жыл бұрын
Never stop making these. I'm learning so much about feminist film theory and I'm loving every second! Thanks for working so hard to elucidate how the Hollywood system mirrored and, in some ways, shaped women's work across the Western world. Great, great channel! :)
@lovielovienickiiii4 жыл бұрын
Just want to say I absolutely admire how well researched, interesting, and put together this and all of your videos are. My favorite youtube film historian by far.
@xlnuniex2 жыл бұрын
I finally watched “Whatever Happened to Baby Jane”. It was amazed by Bette Davis’ acting. Great movie. Recommend 100%
@peggypasson8794 Жыл бұрын
Joan Crawford was also very very good 💯
@xlnuniex Жыл бұрын
@@peggypasson8794 Yes she was. They both were
@jeebsunabia79724 жыл бұрын
I seriously hope Ryan Murphy sees this video. SUPERB!
@bootsarmstrong84214 жыл бұрын
Baby Jane was one of the creepiest movies I've ever seen. I remember watching it several times in the 60's when I was a child.
@johnlewinski63593 жыл бұрын
And now movies suck
@CashelOConnolly2 жыл бұрын
@@johnlewinski6359 no they don’t you’re just old
@johnlewinski63592 жыл бұрын
@@CashelOConnolly I bet you don't even watch Oscar winning movies
@CashelOConnolly2 жыл бұрын
@@johnlewinski6359 WTF 😳 Oh of course I’ve watched Academy Award winning movies’ I’ve watched Wings the 1st movie to win the Oscar (1929) to the latest Nomadland (2021) also the Academy Awards hardly ever awards the best just the movies /people who’ve made the most money for the studios. When was the last time you went to the cinema?
@lacenikks7082 жыл бұрын
@@CashelOConnolly For whatever it's worth, I was born in 2007
@aryakeepsafe8162 жыл бұрын
I didn't realise how dreadful it must have been for Joan Crawford being so abused as a young child and growing up in poverty. Yet she rose above it .
@madelinemarie41402 жыл бұрын
Joan Crawford abused her adopted daughter LMAO. She didn’t rise above anything
@Garsons-oq4lh2 жыл бұрын
@@madelinemarie4140 Allegations by Christina. No one corroborated anything Christina wrote in her book.
@liteflightify Жыл бұрын
@@Garsons-oq4lh No one directly corroborated what’s in the book. But a few people with direct connections to Joan and Christina have commented on Joan being a rather “harsh” or honestly bad mother. Also, the book and how things are presented there is quite a bit different than the super dramatic movie.
@ladyluck5703 Жыл бұрын
@@liteflightify Agreed. I've read the book and watched the movie. Here's my problem with Christina, though. It seems, (and this is an observation on my part, so it is subjective) that every time there's a movie or a show that paints Joan Crawford as a human being with flaws, Christina comes out and promotes her book. In 2017 when Feud was originally scheduled to be released, Christina Crawford started to post readings of Mommy Dearest on Spotify and KZbin. It seems so vindictive, Joan has been dead for almost 45 years now. We'll never know, but I believe the truth is somewhere in the middle.
@chriiiiis Жыл бұрын
@@ladyluck5703 It is pretty shitty to watch people uplift and praise your abuser.
@lonellfletcher4 жыл бұрын
IMHO, Bette deserved her third Oscar over a decade earlier for All About Eve, a performance I feel is superior to her performance in Baby Jane.
@russellaguirre84874 жыл бұрын
What a year though. We had Bette, Judy Holiday in Born Yesterday, AND Gloria Swanson in Sunset Blvd. Talk about an embarrassment of riches.
@screenactorsguilable4 жыл бұрын
@@russellaguirre8487 Judy played a more layered roles there
@screenactorsguilable4 жыл бұрын
@Jarred Knox you said me dear!
@trianajackson3344 жыл бұрын
FAX that’s my favorite movie by her PERIOD.
@jessica_jam43864 жыл бұрын
I think Bette and Gloria should’ve tied for that Oscar!
@TalkAsSoftAsChalk4 жыл бұрын
Oh my. If only I knew that today was going to be Christmas when I woke up this morning. Fifty minutes?????!??
@diogenes5654 Жыл бұрын
I am absolutely delighted to have found Be Kind Rewind. Busily binge watching - thank you!
@kendn014 жыл бұрын
Wonderful commentary as usual. However, I have my own theory about why Davis lost the oscar to Bancroft. No matter how wonderful a performance Bette gave, there was NO WAY the academy was going to pick the actress who played a woman who tortures and starves her sister to death, over the actress who played the woman who taught Helen Keller to speak! It just wasn't going to happen.
@AmyPieterse2 жыл бұрын
the oscars love "inspirational" movies, you're right
@dpf59392 жыл бұрын
If Bette would have won a 3rd Oscar for her performance in one of her other earlier films like Dark Victory, The Letter, Little Foxes, Now Voyager or All about Eve, losing Baby Jane probably wouldn't have meant that much to her. If she had that 3rd oscar prior to Baby Jane it would have made her the first actress with 3 oscars. Whatever happened to Baby Jane is on every Bette Davis fans favorite films list. I still say she was robbed.
@dpf59392 жыл бұрын
I disagree. I found a list of oscar winning roles whose characters were mean and unsympathetic. Two comments here say they don't award oscars to those type of characters. Where as Bette Davis should have won for Baby Jane. Just the actors for best or supporting oscars. J.K. Simmons, Denzel Washington, Javier Barden, Christoph Waltz, Kathy Bates, Charlize Theron, Daniel Day Lewis, Louise Fletcher, Anthony Hopkins and Heath Ledger. Bette was robbed!
@arielkliger63122 жыл бұрын
@@dpf5939 your examples come much much later, when the academy started to care more about "method" and transformation, but this wasnt the case in 1963, although like said in this video (and in part 1) it was a trend that was just starting
@dpf59392 жыл бұрын
@@arielkliger6312 That's what was so great about Bette Davis. She didn't want to play these dumb blonds or goody two shoes women. Another role she should have been nominated for was in 1934. Of Human Bondage. She was the only one willing to take the part. Life magazine said, The best performance by a US actress. Just about every movie she was nominated for I think she should have won. Or at least a very close second. And she always wanted to look the part. Most women wanted to be beautiful all the time. She wanted realism. I think that's what made her better than the others.
@kleberbraga26054 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a video about how Katharine Hepburn became this exception in the industry, taking such good roles at that time. Thank you for such incredible, accurate and careful work. Im a big admirer.
@BoBo-ti6jh4 жыл бұрын
Read the Hepburn biography by William Mann. You will learn a lot.
@lilyzhang51274 жыл бұрын
Juan Jose U advice people who is interested in an actress career to read some trashy Bio full of speculations about the actress's sexuality. Interesting
@ifrean11742 жыл бұрын
The fact that there was supposedly an entire movie made about joan being washed up and them making fun of her alcoholism even knowing about her childhood is just deeply upsetting to me.
@hadbetterdays4 жыл бұрын
When I saw Feud - while admittedly engaged in the salacious part of the Bette and Joan's alleged feud, and the priceless satisfaction of watching Susan Sarandon and Jessica Lange working together - I thought it missed the mark incredibly. It was like "Yes, these were two extremely hard working women who fought for their work and right to work with studios and to an extent society, but let's just see them bitch against each other", so BKR corrected, in a 50 minutes video, what Murphy & Co. couldn't set straight with millions of dollars of budget and 8 hours on TV. Thank you for this. We needed this. And maybe, Hollywood needs this more than ever.
@PungiFungi4 жыл бұрын
I listened the to Divine Feud audiobook about this supposed rivalry between Crawford and Davis. It appears there was some indirect incidents that happened in the past that irked Davis about Crawford but it was indeed the aftermath of Whatever Happened to Baby Jane that really set Davis off. After Crawford died, Davis basically went around spreading stories like how Joan campaigned against her and kept Brancroft's Oscar for a year and Joan was no longer around to refute it.
@jiafeiproductss4 жыл бұрын
OH MY GOD I WAS JUST THINKING OF WHAT TO WATCH BEFORE BED AND YOU POSTED THIS!!! IM WATCHING THIS BEFORE I GO TO SLEEP!!! YOU SAVED MY LIFE ❤️❤️❤️
@richmondrealingo73214 жыл бұрын
Same. This is a sweet goodnight. ❤️
@DCMarvelMultiverse4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Murphy: I know how to write women! Me: Like gay male stereotypes? RM: Close...enough!
@tbam734 жыл бұрын
Bravo
@TalesHilaricki4 жыл бұрын
Oh God, Ryan Murphy's portrait of a gay character makes me feel ashamed and cringed about being gay jdbsjsvtsnwnsvd
@bo27204 жыл бұрын
It IS close enough!
@screenactorsguilable4 жыл бұрын
@@TalesHilaricki do you like to top?
@TalesHilaricki4 жыл бұрын
@@screenactorsguilable well that was invasive
@JohnnyGNV4 жыл бұрын
You did a great job here showing that the series "FEUD" was pretty much an overblown exaggeration of what actually occurred between Bette and Joan - I enjoy watching the series for the costumes, the campiness of it, but I knew it was based more on gay bar room banter that has been spewed over the past fifty years. However silly this series may seem here and there it is a hundred times better than Ryan's truly atrocious series "Hollywood" - Since I love Jessica Lange and would watch her even if she did an Ajax commercial, I was very drawn to this, and of course I am fascinated by Joan Crawford, a dramatic enigma if ever there was one. But I really feel that here on You Tube you hit the nail on the head - I really enjoy watching this - thank you for putting together an insightful mini-Documentary worthy of a television Broadcast ~
@windstorm10008 ай бұрын
Be kind rewind--you offer the most per eptive well researched, videos about film on youtube. Thank you for adding to our enjoyment and knowledge of this great medium--and these two great stars .
@zmbdog4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Olivia has since passed (July 26th). But hey, 104! Few could beat that.
@tagaway61733 жыл бұрын
Did she win the lawsuit against the show?
@LanaDayne3 жыл бұрын
@@tagaway6173 judge threw it out, he stated that one person can not own history
@salmon99504 жыл бұрын
In what world is Joan Crawford catchier than Lucille LaSeur?
@MilaF904 жыл бұрын
Thank you! My thought exactly.
@manthony2254 жыл бұрын
I can see a studio thinking LaSeur would be too hard for movie fans to pronounce.
@tatioliveira85984 жыл бұрын
I guess they didn't want such a foreing-sound lastname
@casandraleff44624 жыл бұрын
I don’t know that I like Lucille as a Hollywood name - you get stuck on the L’s in the middle - but Lucy LaSeur has a nice ring to it.
@alexandreintouch18474 жыл бұрын
it's actually Lucile Lesueur ... not Laseur ... Lesueur in French means "the sweaty" .... not that great
@constancedenchy98013 жыл бұрын
When I first saw " Whatever Happened to Baby Jane"...I had no idea who they were. I was mesmerized by the story ...their acting made me fall into the story completely
@franklinstephen3268 Жыл бұрын
Hey there! I came across your comment and I just had to reach out and say hi. Your perspective really caught my attention and I would love to get to know you better. Would you be interested in chatting sometime? Looking forward to hearing back from you!😊
@clarabelle64724 жыл бұрын
I always forget how beautiful Joan Crawford was when she was younger. She had such a troubled childhood and was deeply insecure about having no high school education. Bette came from a wealthy New England family and you can tell from her confidence and sense of entitlement.
@manthony2254 жыл бұрын
Great point. This makes makes me have a more of a soft spot for Joan.
@rebekahp40834 жыл бұрын
Actually, Bette’s family was more middle class, and after her father walked out on the family when Bette was quite young, Bette’s mother worked several jobs including as a cook and a photographer to put Bette and her sister through school. Her childhood was definitely far far better than Joan’s, but it wasn’t exactly an easy upper class childhood like Katharine Hepburn had either. Ed Sikov’s biography gives a lot of insight into Bette’s childhood so I would recommend checking it out if you’re interested in learning more about Bette. Hope this helped. :)
@reikun864 жыл бұрын
I read an biography of Ub Iwerks written by his daughter. An unknown named Lucille Fay LeSueur was a figure model in St. Louis for a small cartoon business founded by a guy name Walt E. Disney.
@BoBo-ti6jh4 жыл бұрын
Bette Davis was poor. Read her biography by Barbara Leaming. You will learn a lot.
@lray19484 жыл бұрын
Tallulah Bankhead was another one that had a privileged upbringing. Born in Huntsville, AL, her uncle was a U. S. Senator and her father was Speaker of the U. S. House of Representatives in Washington. She was sent off to convent schools (not that it did much good as she turned out to be very wild but also a very good actress). Two of her more famous quotes are "I'm as pure as the driven slush." and "My daddy warned me about men and booze. He didn't say anything about women and cocaine!"
@boredsilly34 жыл бұрын
My dream in this neverending quarantine is an upload from you every week
@ACinemafanatic3 жыл бұрын
Bette Davis is the greatest actress of all time just in my opinion her movies are always amazing you can either hate or love her characters because she is so into the roles
@connordesmond56624 жыл бұрын
I feel like Joan is often seen as having sold herself to the studio system, but I think she just had business savvy to the max and wanted to shed her childhood from her legacy. This, as well as the 1946 video, do a fantastic job of presenting her story in that light, and as a Joan stan, I'm personally very grateful.
@here_we_go_again25712 жыл бұрын
99% of the actors/actresses who were stars (and many who were never stars) "sold themselves to the studio system" People like Bette Davis, Ann Bancroft, Katharine Hepburn, and a few others could and did make it on Broadway, so they had options other than Hollywood
@elijahsackville-glucksburg4 жыл бұрын
Also, it would be appropriate if you put the Tina and Amy's joke on Patricia Arquette being cast on Boyhood they said "it shows the there are roles for women over 40, as long as you're cast before you turned 40"
@Joselitty2 жыл бұрын
This was such a brilliant video essay. I had heard about the feud whenever I prowled around videos regarding Old Hollywood. Your research and editing is astounding.
@LyndseyMacPherson4 жыл бұрын
Seriously, your channel is Netflix material. This kind of break-down of historical facts and overall, your perspective, are refreshing and so badly needed if we're going to perpetuate/restore respect for american film. (Always loved Bette; you just renewed my devout fanaticism; I think she'd approve of this wholly. :)
@ladylordeve3 жыл бұрын
Netflix has to contract BKR to make a doc-series
@SkyeID7 ай бұрын
I'd hate for this content to be behind a paywall. Some people can't afford Netflix.
@callumdoherty72044 жыл бұрын
When you like before watching the video because you already know it’ll be brilliant.
@thenicolajeann2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic take on this!! These women were actually quite similar as well…and their work and accomplishments should be upheld more than some silly feud. Both legends in their own right 🤍
@carolkuahara55614 жыл бұрын
“OK Gable” just got me crying
@shaynuggu5474 жыл бұрын
You just outdid yourself. 50 well spent minutes. I can only imagine your homework. I guess you listened to the entire Audiobook of 7 hours of Joan and Bette. Then sat down for days and nights to write and interpret. And then record. You are terrific. And I think I have a crush on your voice. Id love to see Reese Witherspoon 2006 win and how Felicity Hoffman got robbed. Also about Bette Davis and Ladette Colbert in 1934 Plus Glenn Close and Amy Adams how they keep losing
@karllieck9064 Жыл бұрын
In spite of all it's obvious flaws, "Feud" was so fun to watch!
@mustbeaweful25044 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte seems to be a response against Hagsploitation, as the protagonist is led to believe that she's insane by a cruel man who pretends to love her. And when she kills him and his co-conspirer, she is well again.
@gerison3203 жыл бұрын
Straitjacket is kinda the same. The daughter wants to frame her mother being insane and etc..while she kills other people. In that sense Joan's character wasn't insane at all.
@jcbulldog5332 жыл бұрын
My older cousin was watching My brother's & I when "Hush Hush Sweet Charlotte" was on TV I must've been around 6/7 & that Movie scared the hell outta me.. The music was very haunting!! Olivia & Bette played excellent roles in that movie
@TheSongwritingCat4 жыл бұрын
It's crazy that Joan had so little training and yet from some of her earliest roles, registers on film as such a compelling presence.
@JukuduB3 жыл бұрын
Narcissists can imitate and absorb personalities from people they associate with. I'm sure with the hundreds of actors she was around over the years, she was able to imitate them perfectly.
@georgegallucci18453 жыл бұрын
@@JukuduB Or through sheer determination she studied and learned. Joan’s technical proficiency is never talked about, but there are few who knew how the camera worked as well as Crawford did.
@amandaburk46413 жыл бұрын
@@georgegallucci1845 Agreed. I think people are blinded by the Mommy Dearest persona that they tend to write off Joan's achievements and abilities. As if it negates all of her talent. The fact is Christina's book is deeply flawed. Timelines are incorrect, and events are easily proven wrong. Perfect example, the rose bushes were already torn out before Christopher was adopted. Joan couldn't have went on a rampage tearing them out with Christopher helping. Not to mention other siblings not corroborating her story. People also forget Bette's daughter wrote a book too, but because it wasn't the first it's not as sensational and so Bette doesn't get the same disdain as Joan. Not saying Joan or Bette were great parents, but bad parenting didn't have any influence over films made decades before they became a parent.
@marcallen45322 жыл бұрын
@@amandaburk4641 I was friends with a lady who was great friends with Crawford and she maintained to her dying day that Christina was a spoiled rotten brat who lied through her teeth about her, Mommie Dearest. I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
@phamthuhong33322 жыл бұрын
@@JukuduB If you've read anything about Joan you'll see that she was as far from a nacrissist as possible. She was deeply insercure about her lack of acting training, that's why she married a Boardway actor and worked her damn hardest to be an actual respected actress
@kittywolford77683 жыл бұрын
The way Joan walks up to that stage is so iconic
@rociovidal11494 жыл бұрын
How amazing is your understandisng of their personalities, the times, the scripts, the industry, academy politics, misoginy, pop-culture ... This is so nuanced! A true homage !
@danrazzaia31524 жыл бұрын
I was so excited to see part 2 drop. Then I saw it was 49 minutes, and got even more excited. Thank you for all the work you put into this and every other video you gift us with.
@mycatisabastard23613 жыл бұрын
Crawford's trick at the Oscars was a masterfully petty stroke of genius.
@gfgall4 ай бұрын
Agreeing to accept for someone who couldn't be there can hardly be called a trick.
@dongzkiexx4 жыл бұрын
been waiting for this !finally 😍 hope u will do a segment about the feud between joan fontaine and Olivia de Havilland
@Kevin-rg3yc4 жыл бұрын
I still to this day wonder what was the reason behind the intensity behind their sibling rivalry
@outinsider4 жыл бұрын
Yes! I mean, she did cover that in Olivia De Havilland Fights Back, but I always believed the two resolved things before Joan passed away in 2013.
@VeeLondon14494 жыл бұрын
Bette Davis is still my favourite actress of all time.. 👑
@rabrab32 жыл бұрын
You are so bright, insightful, well spoken and so entertaining. I salute you as one of the best if not the best at what you do in bringing us commentary and entertainment. Thank you for your love and passion of film and explaining how we can look at it in different ways. You are an astute historian!
@francescofornasiero59994 жыл бұрын
I don't even need to wait for more than 10 seconds of video to click on the like button. This is what we've been waiting for, thank you!!!
@vangelissopamena4 жыл бұрын
I bet both actresses would be extremely grateful if they saw this great video. Once again: THANK YOU, BKR! 🙏🏽♥️💋
@iskracorvino23562 жыл бұрын
I also saw this movie before knowing who any of the actresses was and I found it so incredibly captivating; an amazing, realistic and very nuanced portrayal of the characters they wanted to represent. Just a beautiful piece of art all around, even more with an understanding of what it meant for a woman, an actress, finding her place especially after a less 'desirable' age, in a male driven industry.
@franklinstephen3268 Жыл бұрын
Hey there! I came across your comment and I just had to reach out and say hi. Your perspective really caught my attention and I would love to get to know you better. Would you be interested in chatting sometime? Looking forward to hearing back from you!😊
@marvel0964 жыл бұрын
49 minutes?? Thank you for feeding us so well. Your videos are so iconic ♥️
@itubeutubewealltube14 жыл бұрын
47:35 I think you missed Bette Davis's joke saying she wouldnt take one million to work with Faye Dunaway. Faye had just played Joan Crawford in that TV movie, Mommie Dearest :)
@lray19484 жыл бұрын
Mommie Dearest was not just a TV movie. It was a theatrical release
@lb45854 жыл бұрын
@@lray1948 well looks like a low budget hallmark movie.
@hennpaul3 жыл бұрын
they worked together in a movie about Amie Simple McPherson, and Bette later said Faye was a nightmare to work with. Totally unprofessional.