The Fighting 69th Rouge Bouquet clip

[@markbeames7852]

My Great Uncle Arthur V. Hegney is listed there at 2:52. Killed at age 18. Set my family back a generation or two to recover. He was the middle child of three, two were sisters. One my grandmother.

[@ChrisNovak-ProfessionalNerd]

Mark, thanks for your input. Hollywood embellished the list somewhat, but as far as I can tell, the remainder are accurate. Perhaps you can clarify - 1) Were all the bodies exhumed from the dugout? I think so, but a couple were never found, most were re-buried in one of the nearby American cemeteries, and some were sent home to be buried. 2) I have found one or two possible errors in the death dates. For example, the dugout was hit on Mar 7, 1918, but at least one soldier’s death date is listed as May 7, 1918. 3) I did find one survivor, who was standing in the stairwell (just as James Cagney’s character was), from where he could see into the dugout, but also was able to be reached by rescuers… and tell his story. He recalls that one of his friends, Pvt. William Drain was underneath one of the bottom bunks, apparently unhurt by the cave-in. He yelled once or twice “I’m ok, get the other fellows first”. But Drain (and others) apparently suffocated when the underground oxygen ran out.

[@markbeames7852]

@@ChrisNovak-ProfessionalNerd there's a street in Brooklyn NYC named for him - Hegney Place. I believe his remains were interred in a military cemetery in France. I'll have to look at letters to my g-grandmother from Fr. Duffy re: the rest of the others. Duffy's book in still in print.

[@pbrown6097]

Great clip, I always liked the movie, I remember a lot of the old actors from watching the movies on TV.

[@moriahjacobs6131]

Great movie. Cagney starts off nasty but ends up a saint! Love Cagney.

[@lawrencelewis8105]

There's an excellent poster-sized photo of Bill Donovan in the Pearl Street brewery in Buffalo, New York. This is a hell of a good picture and if you're ever in the north end of Times Square which is actually Duffy Square, there is a statue of Father Duffy. He does look just like Pat O'Brien.

[@lawrencelewis8105]

@Robert Aiello do you know comic strips? In the old Steve Canyon strip, Milton Caniff drew Canyon as that photo of Bill Donovan. A neat tribute, I thought.

[@mikesmith1percenter]

I am looking for the boxcar clip near the beginning of the movie. Where the First of Alabama is seen pulling into the rail yard. If anyone that knows would be so kind as to post the link. I will be grateful.

[@ChrisNovak-ProfessionalNerd]

What you seek may be in one of these two clips. But it's the 4th Alabama, not the 1st Alabama, and I didn't see any boxcars in that clip, but they are in another. You can rent the film on KZbin, Amazon, and iTunes (or buy a DVD from Amazon)... $10.50 - $15.00 The Fighting 69th (1940) amzn.to/2BYlYwh ...and if you can give me better start and end times, I'll post a better clip. Fighting 69th, 4th Alabama arrives (video) kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2WmpXucjtWemrc Fighting 69th, Boxcar Clip (video) kzbin.info/www/bejne/f52xc4qHrL6erZY 42nd Infantry Division (United States) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/42nd_Infantry_Division_(United_States) 42nd Rainbow Division Veterans Foundation www.rainbowvets.org/wwi

[@mikesmith1percenter]

Thank you for your fast and detailed reply. The clip that I am looking for is in the first of the movie. The young soldiers are in boxcars; because that is the way that they were moved; and getting themselves all pumped up telling how their Division has never been beaten. An older man is smoking and listening to them and interrupts them to say that the Division has been beaten once before and that the soldiers that beat their Division are coming up the tracks. As you so correctly pointed out it is the 4th of Alabama. The part that I am looking for is the amazement that the "Rebs" came to the war. Outside of the genuinely insane cost of life resources of the The Great War of Succession; fear that the Southerners would abstain from the fight and attempt to succeed again while the Army was committed overseas. Exactly what the Irish did in 1918. I am putting together a collage of movie clips showing how war weary the United States and Britain were at the outset of WWII.

[@mikesmith1percenter]

And I really should have proof read that before I hit Reply. It was these fears that caused the United States to delay in entering the War. The movie Pear Harbor has a great scene, Legends of the Fall has a few where the family is discussing the War and arguing for and against entering it.

[@robertgautreau5611]

That is why. I came here one clip about the Irish 69th during the civil war on how well they fought. The Alabama soldiers beat them badly. Then the fight broke out,

[@tonsawyer5184]

Crhis Novak está no es esa pelicula donde al final el narrador decia Y NO VOLVIERON PARA SER HOMBRES ..?

[@marioriospinot]

Nice.

[@timoshenko1971]

😢

[@588158]

ego te absolvo peccatis tuis in nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.

[@ChrisNovak-ProfessionalNerd]

I know just enough Latin (from Altar Boy days in the 1960s) to guess that Fr. Duffy is praying for a general absolution to all the 18 year old boys and and older men buried 40’ down in the dugout, “in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, Amen”.

[@588158]

@@ChrisNovak-ProfessionalNerd Yes. Translation "I absolve you of your sins in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost. Amen" My Father was in the 69th Regiment from 1936 to 1959.