The Film Den: Pet Sematary, Part 2 (Video Review/Retrospective)

[@ChibiFighter]

Years later and I still love the Film Dens, many thanks for re-uploading them.

[@FirstPersonShane]

People complain about the Stephen King trope of "The Randomly Psychic Child," but with Ellie, I can kind of see what they were going for. After Judd teaches Ellie about the pet cemetery, she starts having dreams relating to the events of the film, like Louis "doing something really bad." I think that the respect for the dead Judd instilled in Ellie allowed her to be a sort of conduit for supernatural forces, sending warnings through her. This kind of thinking can be seen with other characters. Louis's visions of Pascow after seeing him die, and Rachel's fear of death making her connection hazy, feeling Pascow's presence but only faintly. I realize I'm reaching, but it makes more sense than the blind girl in The Langoliers suddenly becoming Daredevil by comparison. This is easily my favorite Stephen King film. The performances are top notch, and the book is adapted remarkably well.

[@Teatime7771]

FirstPersonShane that is good interpretation. I think the Langoliers needs a remake though. The effects look bad

[@NebLleb]

Ellie's respect for the dead and her supernatural link is also what allows her to be the only character to survive in the end, just to make a note.

[@danibethea3425]

Rachel when she comes back to life seriously gave me Silent Hills P.T. Lisa vibes. With the fixed grin, gouged eye, off canter walk via the missing heel, and overall appearance of a corpse/ghost. The resemblance is kind of uncanny.

[@rodster6campingprepper]

I think the implication is that Zelda possessed Gages body, that's why she appears before Gage kills his mum/Zeldas sister. I always took it that evil spirits would possess the bodies buried in the Indian burial ground and that's why they came back evil and not themselves.

[@honeyiatethekids6516]

Under the arc of a weather stain boards, Ancient goblins, and warlords, Come out of the ground, not making a sound, The smell of death is all around, And the night when the cold wind blows, No one cares, nobody knows. I don't want to be buried in a Pet Sematary, I don't want to live my life again. I don't want to be buried in a Pet Sematary, I don't want to live my life again. Follow Victor to the sacred place, This ain't a dream, I can't escape, Molars and fangs, the clicking of bones, Spirits moaning among the tombstones, And the night, when the moon is bright, Someone cries, something ain't right. The moon is full, the air is still, All of a sudden I feel a chill, Victor is grinning, flesh rotting away, Skeletons dance, I curse this day,

[@jessica23claire]

When you said "poor Judd" all I could think of was the song "Pore Jud is Daid" from Oklahoma :P

[@tyrant-den884]

The same evil in the burial The same evil in the Overlook The same evil in Derry

[@scottaznavourian5791]

Umm no...ghosts in the overlook. Wendigo in the burial ground, IT/pennywise in derry. The onlly real king connection seems to be pennywise and randall flag cause they come from the same universe

[@kylelyle4976]

Scott Aznavourian actually no op is right. All of kings books exist in the same universe. The evils present themselves in different ways, but they all are related.

[@Khenfu_Cake]

@@kylelyle4976 I thought it was more that they had the same source or root, sort of speak, which connected all the evils. Not that they are the exact same entity just in different forms??

[@kylelyle4976]

Nekhet the way I interpreted it was that evil is one thing, like a solid entity, that the surfaces in different ways. Like evil is a monster and all the different problems are it’s tentacles ya know? My main point ways that op wasn’t wrong and there is more connections than just being in the same universe. But there are so many ways to interpret it which is why I love his stuff so much.

[@CatLives9]

"That's right. You don't fuck with Jud." Well, Gage in the book response would be.... "I'LL FUCK WITH YOU ALL I WANT, OLD MAN! I'LL FUCK WITH YOU ALL I WANT!" ;-)

[@UndeadGirlCyber]

Thank you so much for the "Happy Thanksgiving to undead kitties"-bit, it made my day XD

[@BooksInTheVoid]

My mom is a big Stephen King fan, I remember seeing this movie when I was kid. I remember my heart pounding so hard when the scene with Gage was playing out.

[@joshbarnard]

pherlous brought me here and i'm absolutely in love with your series :)

[@Cyborcat]

Thanks, glad you like it ^.^

[@MorriganAtwood]

Re: The Ramones. I know they pop up in the book, too. Blitzkrieg Bop, particularly.

[@alphacuck7993]

MorriganAtwood " hey ho. Lets go" is quoted not too far before it gets into the death of gage. Has always struck me as beyond eerie and yet so fitting

[@Baeraad]

7:10: Bloody hell, *that fucking dream sequence*! All the zombie stuff I could handle, but the Zelda nightmare had me traumatised for like a month after I saw the movie.

[@funkyweapon1981]

I'm actually dysmorphophobic, so we're in the same boat.

[@takkycat]

Elly is much improved in the new one, but they sacrificed the characters of Judd and Gage and the relationship between Luis and Judd (which is especially sad since it is crucial to the plot).

[@gracekim1998]

I’m glad to be aware of your channel AND have context for Phelous’ review on the sequel 🙂 20.7.22

[@Cyborcat]

Glad you liked it ^.^

[@daveKoRnfan]

It's funny, it was this review that got me to watch Phelous back when you originally uploaded it on TGWTG because I was curious about the horrible sequel because at the time I never heard of it. I love the film den and hope to see a new one some time

[@bigronnie9629]

One of the few movie adaptations of a King novel that works very well. A really underrated film and Set Sematary has always been my favorite Ramones song lol.

[@GeminibBorn]

This was one of the best reviews Ive ever watched, you now have a fan.

[@danielallen3454]

King is into the Ramones. He mentioned it a couple of times in his nonfiction and introductions.

[@Khenfu_Cake]

Supposedly Pet Sematary, as in the song by The Ramones, was written shortly after King had invited the band to his home and handed them a copy of Pet Sematary lol. I reckon it must have been quite the fan honour to have a band he liked write a song inspired by one of his books.

[@LittleBlueOwl318]

Another Dale Midkiff role I love is him as Clark Davis in "Love Comes Softly". There's another one of his famous "fall" scenes involving a hot stove that's beyond hilarious.

[@EverythingFan02]

I really enjoyed this review. I went and watched the movie and am asking for the book for Christmas. Thanks!

[@elvensith001]

Came from Phelous. I've watched a couple of videos from you, but I didn't realize your channel was still alive! It's good to know. I'll be keeping eyes out.

[@Cyborcat]

Cool, welcome back ^.^

[@Orsonfoe]

My dad refuses to see the movie because he read the book and as a father could stand it.

[@snowmanMK1]

Cant belive this film is 4 years old already!! Thats mad!!

[@thegsk]

Maybe its been brought up but the painting in the background at 6:41 looks exactly like what gage is wearing when he kills Rachel.

[@lumpchunker5516]

After having a child of my own, I can honestly say I'd run right into his scalpel-wielding arms if he died and came back from the dead. Hell, I probably would've buried him in the Pet Sematary myself... Kids really do make the rational part of your brain go haywire sometimes 😅

[@fatenabu1]

Nice reviews, just randomly found you via channel awesome (thanks to your Mortal Kombat review). I haven't seen the movie in quite sometime but remember the book pretty well, is Jud's wife in the book who Louis saves from the heart attack?

[@Cyborcat]

+Dustin Gibbons Yep.

[@amywalters3765]

(in Jud's voice) sometime's the book is betta

[@madamefluffy4788]

I just could not handle that scene with the achilles tendon being slashed. I've only seen it once, but like the cobbling (hobbling?) scene in Misery - once is enough. O.o

[@darkinproductions]

That scares me no matter what movie...

[@Fracpanda7414]

Thanksgiving for cats.. got my attention when I first saw that at 8 years old.

[@Sandlot1992]

I've seen the movie on Netflix and it's awkward sequel, but i will check out the book someday!

[@terrygoudreault3693]

Welp, you got yourself a sub. I'm a huge 80's/90's horror movies fan. I was around 3 years old when I first watched Return of the living dead 2. Ever since, i've loved those. I grew up with a 20 years old brother while I was 3ish at that time, he would make me watch pretty much all the good stuff back then. Now i'm 25, and I swear every year I watch all the movies i watched when I was a kid, and I see that you've got quite alot of uploads for many movies that I love. Thanks for sharing your passion with us!

[@terrygoudreault3693]

On a note, LOL.

[@Cyborcat]

Nope, it was an audio drama, not a direct reading of the book. Also, I got a porn pop-up when I clicked on the link so you should probably delete that.

[@terrygoudreault3693]

Lol holymoly, thanks for the quick reply. I'm using my cellphone right now and didn't get a pop-up, lemme edit my comment. Thanks again for your videos !

[@Cyborcat]

Thanks ^.^

[@TheZipperDragon]

I like to think that whatever happened to Jason Todd in under the red hood is what happened to Gage, & everyone else buried in the burial ground.

[@jacquelinewaugh9451]

Gage's death gets harder and harder for me to watch everytime i watch the movie

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

Heh, I just noticed, after the Ramones scene you follow it up with Ellie being 'sedated.'

[@NebLleb]

"...So for the sake of all the dead cats, [Phelous] will have to do the sequel!" "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" (Cue Pet Sematary by the Ramones) Now THAT'S how you do cross-promotion!

[@thomaslane1010]

11:21

[@lilydarragh4514]

absolutely love this review please do more Stephen King reviews please

[@monkeyass116]

Great review. But seems like the audiobook/dramatization was deleted. Is there any where else to hear it?

[@Cyborcat]

No, unfortunately. I even uploaded it myself for awhile, and ended up getting a copyright strike on my account. It's out of print too, so it's not like the company was losing money over it ;/

[@monkeyass116]

@@Cyborcat That's a real shame. It sounded awesome. Anyway, thanks for the response. Love your work.

[@jem4892]

I've have seem this movie so many times, I'm still like it !!!!

[@KubesVoxel]

I used to have nightmares as a small child where I saw myself hit by a truck. I think I saw this movie as a child. The imagery was absurdly similar. Could it be a false memory? I had that nightmare so many times. Oh my god. I think I found the source.

[@cleverlydevisedmyth]

the awkward direction in this movie is like the voice acting in the games Silent Hill 1 or Castlevania Symphony of the Night. It's so stiff and strange that it creates a campy atmosphere that still takes it self seriously and thus somehow works.

[@Cyborcat]

I was all set to be mad at you until the end XD Also, fair point.

[@cleverlydevisedmyth]

lol I just meant how Louis seems emotionless even before his son's death, and how Ellie seems whiny to the point where she's even forgotten by the scriptwriter and we don't see what happened to her... @@Cyborcat

[@NotOrdinaryInGames]

That's it. I understand now. There is not point running away from the truth. I mourn the deaths of cats more than deaths of humans. WHY AM I LIKE THIS?!

[@NotOrdinaryInGames]

***** No, I guess I am just very very biased.

[@jameslandon4126]

Because...Liberal.

[@shmee123ful]

That which is dead dose not die, in strange egos even death may die. Leave the dead be, they earned there rest.

[@TheZipperDragon]

I like to think that (at least for that particular spot) The soul of the one buried there goes to hell, & their time in hell corrupts them. There's no real fact to support this theory, I just saw it in Batman: Under the red hood, & it just makes sense to me. No one knows what lays on the other side of oblivion, & it makes sense that the human mind may not be ready for it, & the return trip.

[@Miyavisgirl1540]

10:02 You wanna know how I got these scars? Sorry. It had to be done. lol!

[@Lawrence_xx]

First time viewer to your channel, I loved your Pet Semetary videos. You're hilarious! I'm going to watch more and subscribe.

[@Cyborcat]

Awesome, welcome to the madness ^.^

[@Jaymcgom89]

Dana great review you did a good job with your commentary and your funny lol i seen this movie a billion times but I'm reading the book to compare but i know the books always better I'm on chapter 12 thumbs up:)

[@Cyborcat]

+Jay Mcgomery Thanks. I think I actually prefer the movie in this case because the book moved REALLY slow in the middle (tho it's been ages since I read it).

[@Jaymcgom89]

Yea so far no one died

[@Beanmachine91]

the wendigo is like an invisible antagonist lol

[@nextgenwarrior]

I actually don't like the way they handled Gage's death in the film, moreso the timing of it. In the novel the kite flying scene is what Luis describes as his last really good day, and the bonding between him and Gage during the whole thing is very sweet and powerful, so combining that scene with the accident just completely ruined it IMO.

[@tiffanystewart9265]

NGW would u rather actually see the kid run over?

[@666tickets]

You should update the link to Phelous' video. Blip doesn't exist anymore.

[@sjmhadsock4586]

In the book the Ramones song is blitzkrieg bop

[@Beanmachine91]

moar pascow bell please!

[@mjxbox]

here the audiobook link Pet Sematary - Stephen King - Audiobook - Part 1

[@Cyborcat]

That's not the same one, it's just a single voice reading the book. The one I featured is an audio drama,

[@mjxbox]

Cyborcat was it the pet sematary by stephen king bbc radio drama ?

[@Cyborcat]

mjxbox Yah.

[@Cyborcat]

mjxbox No need to search for it or anything. I've got it myself, I just need to get off my but and upload it =P

[@mjxbox]

Cyborcat lol ok then. i would like to hear that.

[@Daniel_EDDA]

Today still The Ramones song don't make any sense to me, he sings "I don't want to be buried in a pet sematary, I don't want to live my life again" They were buried on this indians place and not on the pet cemetery. He would not come back as zombie when he would be buried on the pet cemetery. Hmm.... :)

[@Cyborcat]

Well, "I don't want to be buried in the Micmac burial ground" doesn't sound as good and doesn't mention the title =P

[@WerewolfEnjoyer]

Hey is that radio play version around anywhere? I'd love to listen to it.

[@Cyborcat]

I guess you can't see the annotations. The guy who originally had it up took it down, then I had it uploaded on my channel and I got a copyright strike for it, so ... your only option is probably to torrent it, since it's out of print.

[@WerewolfEnjoyer]

Yeah, annotations don't show up on the Wii U. I looked around for it, but it may be lost. I'm going to keep searching though, it really seems good.

[@monopside]

woot been waiting for this

[@funkyweapon1981]

I always thought the evil spirit in the "zombies" was the Wendigo.

[@Sam-Lawry]

If Louis was Bruce Campbell...a cat,a baby...easy!

[@javiergonzalez1393]

Good review. Thank you!

[@plantemor]

Did they take down the pet sematary audiobook/radio play?

[@Cyborcat]

Yes, and after I uploaded it myself, I got a strike on my channel, even tho it's long out of print and the only way to buy it is to get a used copy.

[@plantemor]

@@Cyborcat dude I did a search on KZbin and actually managed to find the play on a channel called cosmic creepers! :D it might be removed again but I hope not. It's really good quality too!! Sad though, how hard it is to find if you want to buy it. :s

[@plantemor]

@@Cyborcathere's a link to part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aaGTaqOOo6eLgLc

[@Cyborcat]

Yeah, it probably won't stay, but glad you found a way to listen to it.

[@TheSeanrob22]

I really enjoyed this. Grate job. Oh yeah... I hated Elie to.

[@elokin8905]

Good thing they chose to not throw the Wendigo in. To be honest I find Stephen King hard enough to stomach as it is, but throwing in another entity like that would throw everything off the deep end. Assuming it was heavily involved anyway.

[@EverythingFan02]

I've read through a good part of the book and I think it's just included to tie the burial ground back the native americans more, like the wendigo was what made the burial ground go sour or something.

[@KyoSohma2211]

That would make sense, considering wendigo are created by eating human flesh. Maybe someone ate the flesh of a corpse buried there in desperation and became a wendigo, which made the land go sour.

[@apex2000]

Does the daughter have a touch of the shinning?

[@mikeredes1878]

0:00 what's the name of the music?

[@Cyborcat]

"Nine Lives Minus Seven"

[@Imanmagnet00]

Dena What are your thoughts on the remake?

[@Cyborcat]

I think it looks like another generic horror remake so I'm not interested in seeing it. The changes might have been interesting to see if the trailers didn't spoil them.

[@Imanmagnet00]

Just came back from seeing it and you're not missing out. It has none of the themes or charms from either the book or movie and it's not even scary considering how much they tried to make the cemetery spooky. Great video btw, I watched it in preparation for the new one as well as the original so at least something good came from it.

[@Cyborcat]

Yeah, most of the reviews I've seen have been fairly mediocre. Even the positive ones seem to rate it at just above average. Glad you enjoyed the video either way ^.^

[@TheZipperDragon]

I would love to hear Pet Sematary read by Jud, but I'm guessing he passed before Audible.com was a thing...Shame...It would've been the thing that made me start useing Audible.

[@kthomp38]

Thanks, Now I want to read Pet Semetary again. And I really don't have the time!:)

[@TheCrazyNekoGirl2123]

That line 'Now i want to play with YOU' oooh chills every time i hear it. I Assume the car was from Cujo? And Ellie has a sort of a Shining thing going on with her prophetic dreams as i can't really think of anything else to call them. She has some form of ESP at any rate which she probably got from mom. A lot of King stuff is linked in some way. For example most of his books take place in Maine either in or around the town of Derry like Needful Things and It for example both take Place in Derry. I believe he show Castle Rock is close to Derry as well. This is one of my favorite King movies though this one and Cats Eye

[@Chaoitcme]

King wrote the Ramones into the original Pet Sematary novel.

[@Cyborcat]

+Chaoitcme Ah, I didn't remember that far back. Doesn't surprise me tho.

[@kurvos]

Nice. :) Seems like an interesting movie. Not sure why I've missed this review in the past. Either way, my personal favorite Stephen King movie is Needful Things. ^_^

[@kurvos]

***** I've never seen or even heard about Stand By Me. I've seen Misery though... will admit it's definitely a good movie - but I wouldn't be able to watch it again, since the claustrophobic elements are really freaky to me. XP lol And I'm afraid I'm not a novel reader, so I stick to the movies either way. Please don't tell me I am "missing out" for not reading the novels (not saying you will, but I'm used to some people saying so). I'm a visual person, a cinematic person. No offense to novel readers, I think it's awesome novels works for others - but for me, it's nothing but a first draft. I'd only read a novel if I were to adapt it, to be frank. XD

[@kurvos]

***** Kay.

[@DasKame]

Great Review thx

[@nicolehardwick3630]

That's right U don't fuck with Jud!

[@TheZipperDragon]

8:40 Anyone else hear the supposed Wendigo sound again?

[@jameslandon4126]

That's the sound of a Loon. Damn, don't you people ever leave the cities?

[@scottaznavourian5791]

My question is why did pazkow make her go back to maine? He led her right to her own slaughter

[@Cyborcat]

Because she was supposed to stop Louis.

[@jeffmartin9753]

Hey Dena you're so fine You're so fine You blow my mind Hey Dena! Hey Dena!

[@christopherritenour2330]

Why did he kill Church? He wasn't doing anything bad?

[@Cyborcat]

To undo the mistake he made. Not to mention that church was probably suffering anyway.

[@christopherritenour2330]

@@Cyborcat Why was he suffering?

[@KCohere33]

So hateful to this poor little girl who lost her entire family.

[@Beanmachine91]

you look familiar, are you with thatguywiththeglases.com?! lol

[@crystalhydra4779]

It's sad when you realize all this could have been avoided if the people would have built a Fence keeping Pet's and kids out of the road

[@Cyborcat]

Only in theory. Gage's death wasn't an accident--the burial ground made him die. If having him wander into the street didn't do it, it probably could have used some other method.

[@crystalhydra4779]

Maybe but It would have been harder to kill Gage since he wouldn't be able to walk out onto the road and it seems as though the semetary only has power over people if their aware of it, say seems because I haven't read the book so i might be wrong, also it seems Jude is partially to blame since he's the one who showed Lewis how to perform necromancy using the burial ground. those are a few thoughts I had while watching the movie.

[@shmee123ful]

if your going to bring someone back to life as a hate zombie the lest you could do is get your self a flame thrower. grand father Nurgel's gift must be stoped

[@alexsiren7829]

I be honest, just to me, I am completely detach myself from all the deaths in the movie. Some of the serious death scenes, I be very honest, I laugh like I never laugh before, I just feel like that. But overall the movie is great, the settings and the locations are spark me on, the characters, meh.

[@MrJeffy45]

What's wrong with Pet Sematary 2?

[@Cyborcat]

Phelous's review hit the nail on the head, IMO: thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/phelous/18036-pet-sematary-two

[@MrJeffy45]

I think 1 and 2 still hold up today. Part 3 would be dope tho!

[@VulpusArmory]

Cyborcat blip.tv/phelous/pet-sematary-two-3316014 seeing as how TGWTG is defunct and Phelan is no longer on Channel Awesome.

[@Cyborcat]

Thankies.

[@scottaznavourian5791]

4:55 basically he is suicidal

[@thatonezeldaguy250]

Gives me fma vibes

[@mr.checkyourself4672]

I know it's one of Stephen King's greatest film adaptions the second one is just a fucking mess

[@eternalelipsis]

Why Church?? He hasn't attacked any human to kill them!

[@Cyborcat]

As in, why did Louis kill him? To "undo" the mistake he made by bringing him back in the first place.

[@Cyborcat]

Not to mention that he's not exactly happy being undead--best to put him out of his misery.

[@eddihurta7173]

How did Phelous die in this ending 🤣

[@TheZipperDragon]

Darth Vader ain't got shit on Louis.

[@mplum4796]

Oh LORD this movie was SO BAD! I have had kindergartners turn in better stories than this! Thank you for reviewing this with an open mind. The movie SUCKS, but at least you gave some of it a fair chance!

[@spacemanmonster23]

@ 7:50 THE FUCK IS THAT!??!!?!?

[@ajnapalm]

This problem would've been solved by a child leash.

[@MARKKY2727]

American werewolf in london?

[@Cyborcat]

Are you asking me to cover it? Probably some day.

[@MARKKY2727]

@@Cyborcat would be great.👍 But what I ment was it reminds me because of the dead zombie like guy in this film similar I thought to AWIL. Love your Red Dwarf series by the way.👍

[@Cyborcat]

Oh yeah, it is kinda similar. And thanks ^.^

[@jholttn]

Hmmm I always wondered what would have happened if you buried something twice in the burial ground or better yet, buried someone or something alive? Has this popped in anyone else's head?

[@Cyborcat]

I think the book mentioned something being buried twice, but it didn't really go into any detail, so I assume it came back the same way it did the first time.

[@jholttn]

Cool... I still wonder would it would be like to bury something or someone alive. Probably the same affect. lol

[@jackthomas6952]

The Remake is pure Trash.

[@Cyborcat]

I could pretty much tell by the trailer.

[@jackthomas6952]

Cyborcat I’ve never been more disappointed in a movie especially when they are touting “ Its very faithful to the book” lies.

[@KarstensCreationsKC]

Great second half to your review...but I must disagree w/ you concerning your take on how the Timmy Baterman scenes from the book 'might now have translated well onscreen'...I can TOTALLY see Timmy standing in his yard, the red sunset light bathing him while Jud and his friends listened to him hoarsely whispering the evil secrets he knew about them all...it would have been terrifying, haunting...and far more memorable than the cheesy shambling mess that was Timmy in the movie... Still, your review was top notch, and most appreciated...well done, and keep up the great work... By the way, have you done a review of the movie adaption of The Mist yet? (Off to check your channel...;)

[@Cyborcat]

+Karstens Creations I actually haven't even seen The Mist. I need to, tho--I've heard mostly good things about it.