The Final Battle | Red Ash Part 2 Analysis/Recap

[@FrizFroz]

I'm positive that we'll get a pretty hefty hard mode cutscene next week. There are so many unclosed threads e.g. the aftermath of Cinderella and the Rapture's reaction to it, Red Hood's final moments and how she ended up a part of Rapi, what happened to Commander and Liliweiss after leaving the party and between this event and Overzone, and how Snow White got her first Mind Switch. At least one of the above would have to be addressed. I'd love to know more of Oswald's story as well, but I'm sure that will come in a different event.

[@guamsoncruz5107]

wasn't he the one on the radio when goddess squad was betrayed?

[@FrizFroz]

@@guamsoncruz5107 Yes. But we still don’t know the context of what happened between the time when he helped Red Hood realize that she deserved proper closure with her friends, and when he betrayed Goddess in Operation Ark Guardian.

[@GOLDEN_SHOWER_TOWER]

There will be some happy moments to build false hope and then it'll come crashing down with the ultimate depression.... Probably. Can't wait to see what happens. Great vid man. Respect Nut

[@Cecil002]

Hai my lord😂

[@GOLDEN_SHOWER_TOWER]

@@Cecil002 At ease Homie. We all equal here. LOL!! Appreciation Nut

[@Cecil002]

@@GOLDEN_SHOWER_TOWER 😂

[@michuh99]

In the reserach facility in Chapter 19, Papillon notifies the Commander of a document on the desk, before they were ambushed by Inherit. The document stated "Test subject: 1 Rh X (tentative name) blood type holder. Conclusion: A unique substance has been extracted from the subject’s blood. Injecting the afrementioned substance into Heretic Anachiro resulted in the eradication of all nano substances inside the subject’s body. This substance has been named Vapaus." So later in the story the Ark will captur Anachiro and experiment how Vapaus(from Legendary Commander?) on her

[@kevinmarley4596]

Anachiro and MC one the same in secretly that’s why Nilhilister finding a way dissect him

[@lysenthe]

i wonder how this comment feels like if you're caught up in the story now

[@yeat9243]

imma need you for the next lottery

[@michuh99]

@@lysentheKinda happy, but I thought it was obvious, my next takes are: 1. Dead people are used as fuel/energy, or are turned into Splendamin. 2. Soon the new base on the surface will be usable, and if we find Crown, it will give us super food seeds so that we can slowly become self-sufficient and independent from the ark, we will create a new faction in which everyone will be able to live peacefully(Modernia, pilgirms, Raptilion, Heretics), but it will probably take a long time. 3. Mustang is a Nikke with a female brain but with masculine appearance ;).

[@brianyang1151]

Freesia is sus. I mean, she and Rapi share a Japanese VA and Cosmograph even created a unique theme for Freesia and the weirdest piece of lore to reference is the last scene of Full Fools Day, where the color of Rapi hair's in the Counters bedtime scene is very similar to color of Freesia's hair.

[@BloxxingDinosaurus]

You can see Cinderella crying as Red Hood obliterates her. One could think it's from pain, but if you complete Simulation Room II in the Memory of Goddess minigame, it shows a little cutscene where Cinderella is being told that all the Goddesses she sees are fake and she needs to destroy them all in order to actually help the real Goddesses, as it was her sole purpose. So in her corrupted perspective, she failed to save the "real" humanity and the "real" Goddesses by losing to the fake ones that tried to deceive her. Kind of depressing.

[@davfree9732]

One update later... ... IT'S HAPPENIIIIIING!!!

[@dragonfable66]

So. About the Cinderella crying part . Old tales puts some painful context into that TAT

[@BloxxingDinosaurus]

@@dragonfable66 Yes, I just read it. Now I am honestly not sure how far off I really was. I mean, it's more about serving the Queen now, and she has the thought in mind to kill the Goddesses herself. Well, even though she only does it because she think she can't win against them anyway and will finally be stopped by an outside force before she hurts more people she cares about.

[@godzillakaijuboy]

@@dragonfable66 oof

[@ShinoHanamisa901]

I just guessing the hard one story is the origin of Rapi and teaser of our commander origin? Just a guess.

[@Pyrrhixz]

I hope it’s not just a one part ending like previous events

[@enigminator3578]

I'm torn between wanting to see Oswald's perspective from Overzone after locking them out and the Rapi/Red Hood origin for the hard mode ending.

[@number0017]

I wonder if Oswald is the one that also spread the word of The Goddess Squad history around the Ark. And probably made the Statue of them that are spread all over the Ark.

[@Pyrrhixz]

He was most likely the one who spread the word of goddess that is constantly referred to in the story. I don’t think Oswald was a bad guy

[@melsuppatlol4565]

​@@Pyrrhixz nah after seeing this, I have a feeling that he was forced to be harsh to them by his superiors or he didn't want them to come back because of reasons unknown, most likely involving the Ark's government whatever it is, it was bad enough that he *didn't* want them anywhere near the place

[@reyvaldosoetiman2389]

​@@melsuppatlol4565 i have the same feeling, the situation on how RedHood situation telling me Oswald purposely didnt want the other goddess goes back to Ark.

[@warlockwarlord169]

@@Pyrrhixz Imagine Dorothy swearing to kill Oswald's descendants and that ends up been the Commander we play as

[@ZamZakuZou]

Maybe Red Hood and Dorothy will found the truth from Oswald descendants and id imagine his descendants might left something for them like documents or diary perhaps.

[@gigaslave]

The fight has a whole new context as of Old Tales, where Cinderella successfully tricks Anachiro into directly fighting Goddess squad instead of just raining artillery fire from above ;_;

[@Rtdc31]

I’m positive we are going to get a goddess squad reunion sometime down the road based on everything so far it’s too big of a opportunity to pass up

[@paulsteward9582]

i really think that Oswald was ordered to abandoned the Goddess Squad by Central Gov. after seeing him being such a fanboy, it's hard to think he goes 180 all of sudden. 16:46 sounds like Red Hood's VA reading the dialogue, not voice acting

[@KingofAwesomness14]

that red hood scene killing cindy was flipping brutal! I mean, she put the sniper rifle up to her chest and blew that clean off! I mean, in a breast butt game that is hardcore and i love it! nice!

[@Malmizan]

Watching the cutscenes after seeing cindy story just sad

[@ainukazashi7199]

I dont think oswald was really a bad guy like hes really a die hard fan on the goddess squad, i think he just following order on hes higher ops in central gov but damn.

[@cardsgamble4905]

Good soldiers follow orders

[@jimvenanzio6561]

He's just another cog in the system. It hurts, but that's one part of our world we really can't deny having in common with this fictional world.

[@ReolynVT]

SPOILERS INCOMING! Read at your own risk! Theory crafting here! I think I have connected some dots myself, take this with a grain of salt, but this is not out of the realm of possibility. Andersen might be the legendary commander. Mentioning that Vapaus was created from the legendary commanders blood. If that is the case. then lets fast forward, I think it was after modernias(Marian) battle, Andersen gave blood to us, the commander. Also mentioning that they have the same SOUGHT AFTER blood type. That leads me to a conclusion that Andersen might be the legendary commander and us, as well, have the blood type to create Vapaus.

[@spps1817]

Wait so from what I am getting from the video is that the squad is dead right

[@masterzalvalor2489]

About Anachiro smiling while fighting the goddess. In the final stage of Memory of Goddess, the Simulation room-Stage 2. There is a perspective of a corrupted Nikke who looks like Cinderella talking to her "reflection" on a mirror where she was manipulated into trusting that she is fighting and destroying everything that resembles her (possibly human and Nikke), deceive them, mock them to help the goddess squad. She was made to believe she was helping the goddess squad from being "deceived" and "manipulated" by them and only she can save them. Which after that she made up her mind to save the goddess before repeatedly saying "everything for the goddess". Soon after it slowly fades into "everything for the queen". Could she still believe she was helping the goddess when she was fighting them? what's your thought on that? Also great vid! always love watching them.

[@arhamhaziq4276]

Maybe. But... How can she still smile when she's getting obliterated?

[@ChazDragoon]

​@@arhamhaziq4276the last parts of herself breaking thru the corruption for a moment.. Alternatively, as Rapunzel described Corruption as 'a sort of warped hypnosis', she is smiling because she is helping the Goddesses, she is smiling because she is being killed, she is smiling because everything for the [queen].

[@ChazDragoon]

it lines up with Rapunzel's explanation of what Corruption is.."a sort of warped hypnosis". That scene in MOG is within Cinderella's mind...its likely been a long time (or seems like a long time) to the point she has lost herself, possibly fighting back the Corruption or perhaps it's because the Raptures captured her before she could be "activated"...leaving her brain as a sort of semi-blank slate where she only has remnants of who she is from the process of becomming a Nikke. Either way, if you've ever played Drakkengard, this scene heavily has shades of a main character's "corruption" in thwt game...where he, like Cinderella, is switched to the proverbial 'dark side' by twisting his love and desire to protect another character...believing all the bad stuff he ends up doing is for her survival. Here: Cinderella is told who she is (which is true, she is a 'Goddess'..this is tonestablish trush with 'The Voice' [of corruption]) and her purpose to help the Goddesses...and asking how she can, it's to kill everyone like her (human and nikke)...as they are "the enemy of the Goddesses". It is repewted over and over until it "makes sense", she can now "help the Goddesses"..she can bring victory...and can give her everything for them. Everything for the Goddess...[Everything for the Queen]. and given how it's clear the Nikke devs love Yoko Taro and the Nier series, I wouldn't be surprised if they took some pages from Drakkengard for thier lore.

[@zanard33]

In Overzone, we hated Ozwald with a passion. Now, with Chapter 26 and Red Ash being almost complete... I hate Dorothy just as much.

[@kasrkin100]

Dont worry she just turn into Her new dark side Doro.

[@ZamZakuZou]

**you heard something moving behind you** -Doro the movie

[@ZamZakuZou]

My guess was Red Hood brain is in Rapi. Along with Red Hood core. Remember? She got decapitated before the Counters encounters Gravedigger.

[@nikiontv7619]

Is it possible that Oswald said that Goddess Squad was excluded from Ark to save them from deal Enikk made with Chatterbox? He seems to idolise them and seeing Red Hood slowly succumbing to corruption might have influenced his decision not to let them be corrupted in Ark just like many other Nikkes.

[@RexZShadow]

Doubt chatterbox existed back then, the deal was likely made way later down the line.

[@warlockwarlord169]

14:44 Sorry to disappoint but Cinderella has been for who knows how long in a tank at Ludmilla's base missing legs ,arms and part of Her head , She is one of the sleeping Princesses Alice looks after

[@rigelothello709]

Well, she's indeed a Sleeping Princess alright, but not in Ludmilla's Secret Base. Now we know she's sleeping in the giant Crystal in the middle of Crystal City (Chapter 28 and above).

[@insomniac818]

There has yet to be an anniversary from any goddamn gacha game that can top this storytelling. Who would've thought a physics simulator could be such an emotional rollercoaster.

[@Skye2993]

This is why I love creativity you can get something mixed together that just works, like you got this supermodel gacha game and but has a story that’s quite intriguing and if your mature you’ll see the story not the people who just go Hehe I only care about the characters assets and attractiveness and then the people who just write it off without really knowing what the gacha is about.

[@theshiningpath4649]

I'm curious as to reason as why Lilith and the Commander were called back the moment they were needed most. I wonder who's pulling the strings.

[@ilhamshobri461]

now cindy is playable, and she is a good girl just like snow white

[@masterblaster5186]

Also another detail, when Rapi talks with Red Hood for a final time the proper idea would be, Friend, Teacher and Ideal(not hero) To use "hero" wasnt THAT bad compared to other misstranslations but a hero is someone you admire, while a ideal is something you admire and at the same time want to reach it. Not everyone wants to be a hero but everyone that has an ideal wants to make it come true

[@spudgetti]

Thank you for making these! I've been too busy with work to keep up with the story.

[@athausanddollahs1209]

19:42 this harkens back to my theory of our player character being like Gordon Freeman. We're just frsh out of Job training and expected to turn the tide make everone happy despite the fact that the player character as portrayed is just like your average joe only the handsome version of this average joe

[@Zerkx_Shinai]

let's wait for another year for the sequel where we'll see the events before and after Overzone and RedAsh

[@Khader1093]

Corrupted redhood would be great.

[@ChazDragoon]

and then Hard Mode happened... and also the last bit of Lost Relics in Re:Dash... The plot continues to be as thicc as Anachiro. :3c

[@leavemealonepleaseno]

I just has a theory that the new Commander is Liliweiss and the Commander love child

[@cardsgamble4905]

When did they have the time to do that😂

[@leavemealonepleaseno]

@cardsgamble4905 the central government meeting was a lie and they knew her possible death was coming by the hands of Cinderella. It was their long game plan for future heretics.

[@JackDblade]

Started Nikke before the 2nd Anniversary started and by god the lore for this game is top notch. This game can be a really great anime. Just dont mess it up.

[@tak8850]

Literally would have won the first invasion if they safe guard Cinderella properly and be ready for the next invasion with sleeping beauty and gretel. Not only that we lost the final battle we also lost Cinderella, gretel, and sleeping beauty who I'm assuming is libaralio + red hood got corrupt and lilith body unable to sustain longer than 2 decade and end up dieing much sooner because of many time she over exert her boby

[@lenieldelatorre480]

Corruption Codes- RH's-not refined Anachiro's-refined

[@yuk-luenman9734]

As always a very good summery. please keep on the good job

[@mobyhuge4346]

18:29 same I also don't trust it considering her head is still intact

[@sodaboy2414]

Alright let’s check this out

[@deviruseighthan]

awesome vid. Imagine they made another prequel when liliweiss was in her prime with the commander~

[@sugarylapis]

I'm so hyped for tomorrow!

[@SniperFallen06]

Very few Nikkes can keep their originals Mica and Belorta for example they have the same names and memories when they were human

[@redraptorz4174]

I wonder what happen with scarlet between Red Ash and Overzone.. I remember in overzone they mention her sister... so maybe the next even about Goddess Squad will be about Scarlet

[@ZamZakuZou]

Also her adapting her current Vergil style after Red Hood gave her the idea of making a leaf floating in the air with only her sword slashes.

[@reclaimeddead]

11:14 It has been confirmed by one of the devs in a recent interview that Freesia IS NOT Rapi. She’s her own character.

[@Alphafloodpng]

Was about to say this, me and my friends would debate whether she was rapi or eunhwa

[@dantecasiano1359]

Day 6 asking for Red Hood's return (Ill edit this comment until the day that happens. Remember: Red Hood, not Rapi, but i like her too)

[@hmmm7586]

RAPI IS ACTUALLY FREEZER FROM DRAGON BALL Z??????????

[@gigaslave]

Anachiro was intact enough that Absolute and Matis would be needed to bring her down again later, closer to the present day. She must have been held by M.M.R for research and experimentation.

[@RexZShadow]

No, Absolute and Matis brought down a different Heretic. Its revealed at like end of chapter 24.

[@Pyrrhixz]

Anachiro is brought up in chapter 19 as well.

[@PhoenixJustice]

Amazing video as always, Hollow! What song did you use for the outro? It's beautiful

[@Pyrrhixz]

The NIKKE ost: Freesia

[@Usmvalor3]

Funny or unfunny enough, I think Lily's passing is gonna be much more depressing than it already was. If we ever get a detailed telling of it. Watching someone great wither and get weaker every day is soul crushing and I think this is what we gonna get.

[@Shiki_0015]

I thought the title said “The final Rap battle” I was so fucking confused I had to click, to my disappointment it was unfortunate not a Pilgrim rap battle.😔

[@warlockwarlord169]

Freesia is either Marian or the girl Commander sees in a blurry memory as a white silhouette when Chatterbox kidnaps him , I'm also curious if mind switches throws NIKKEs again in the "becoming the ideal form" process , that would explain how Snow White becomes Her ideal self described in the MOG game and Her physical growth

[@Schinak]

no way its marian

[@warlockwarlord169]

@@Schinak Same hair and eye colors

[@Schinak]

@@warlockwarlord169Nope. Marian hair is brown not dark grey. Also voice actress is Rapi in japanese so check mate bucko

[@warlockwarlord169]

​@@SchinakSame logic would apply with Rapi's orange hait KEK

[@Schinak]

@@warlockwarlord169 the orange hair is Red hood side. Try harder

[@sonicXstarhedgehog]

I mean... Heretics were belived to be immortal... Until Vapaus was discovered... Anachiro is not dead.

[@worldsear972]

waiting for Rapi SSR

[@sen2003-rbd]

Hollow I dont know if u will see this or not but as a request as someone who watched u since ur Rezero live chapter sessions and now Nikke content I would love it if u could arrange a voiced version of the lost relics stories we find in Red Ash. I love the interactions and esp the Liliweiss and Commander stories and want to see the stories again with voice

[@Pyrrhixz]

I’m seeing this super late, but I will try my best to

[@SilverHor]

Wtf, why people text Oswald is bad? I saw he once at story Red and thats a super nice guy, i will give a honor in the end

[@rice1304]

play overzone, it will explain everything

[@rigelothello709]

In Overzone, Oswald is the one who close the Ark Door, and not let Dorothy and all of Goddess Squad from entering the Ark. But now, we think that maybe he is doing that because of the Order from above. Or other theory, maybe because the Central Government has a bad plan for Goddess Squad, so he willing to become a bad guy, so Goddess Squad don't Fall into Central Government. Anyway, yeah, our view on Oswald really changed because of Red Ash Part 2.

[@SilverHor]

@@rigelothello709 oh thx, play it but dont remember. Any way this not one person solution

[@JakeMccloud]

oswald did say he was fanboying when talking to red hood in that one cutscene which means he does care about them in a way@@SilverHor

[@docholiday4129]

Shame Red Hood killer Cinderella. Wish Shift up made her playable

[@rigelothello709]

I don't know if you're already know or not, but Anachiro a'ka Cinderella will be Playable. If you already reached Chapter 28, the Girl in the middle of the Big Crystal is her. For now, she's still sleeping (From Cinderella to Sleeping Beauty? 😅). But yeah, I'm sure she will wake up in the future.

[@gigaslave]

Wish granted.

[@arhamhaziq4276]

I thought Heretics can regenerate?

[@arachian7608]

14:48 facts my friend

[@KarylKinfia-g6g]

How tye legendary commander die?

[@Anzac7RAR]

Nihlister is Red Hood converted after meeting Rapi and transferring her power set to her. The corruption took hold after and she was found like Marian and converted to become a heretic

[@SniperFallen06]

18:09 Sus

[@User-zv8vz]

I was reading the lore bits in Re Dash event, and one of them talks aboit Liliweiss visiting a flower camp, talking to another dead pilgrim, apparentely made before her, and how she feels guilty from her dying. Any theories on who that is? Did Liliweiss took up her name?

[@rigelothello709]

I don't think the dead Pilgrim was made before Liliweiss. She's the 1st from Grimm's Model, and all of Grimm's Model are been created Based on Liliweiss. So yeah, she's the 1st from Grimm's Model (Before Red Hood, Rapunzel, Dorothy & Snow White), but I think Liliweiss is still the 1st NIKKE. It seems that the dead Pilgrim is close to Liliweiss, and there is a failure when she's been made into NIKKE, so she died even before becomes NIKKE. About who she is... We still don't know. Maybe we will get an explanation later.

[@doge_sfm]

hey can i ask you something?

[@Pyrrhixz]

What’s up

[@doge_sfm]

@@Pyrrhixzis there going to be privaty bond story that is a fandub?

[@doge_sfm]

also love your video

[@Pyrrhixz]

@@doge_sfmwe have the recordings just haven’t had time to put it together

[@doge_sfm]

@@Pyrrhixz ok also keep up with the good work love your videos

[@VirtuousContract]

Ending could’ve been better.. Cinderella was disappointing

[@Schinak]

she's not dead tho

[@ChinchillaBONK]

the only bad thing is the Anachiro fight scene animation wasn't top notch. But the story is still good. JP VA is much better too.

[@ApollosBow113]

Anyone got a link to the discord? The links section just has it as /discord

[@Pyrrhixz]

It’s been updated! Link is there