The FINAL Best Sonic Song Debate.

[@WhoTookIt]

Watching the debate between Live&Learn and Undefeatable really hurt, it was hard to decide between the two

[@GamesCage]

MHM

[@Kiezly]

Lmao yeah it was a battle between Decades of Nostalgia VS Recency Bias

[@chaosspider5765]

imo dark gaia should've died WAY earlier

[@Super_Cinder.Inferno]

Honestly, Almost All Titan Themes Solos

[@Super_Cinder.Inferno]

​@@chaosspider5765FR

[@JamMac2023]

The hate on the first half of Break Through it All is nuts to me. Not only would the second half not be the same without it, but that intro when you start the fight with Wyvern is so damn hype. When you both first start zooming while you hear “Don’t look down!!” Peak boss fight

[@GamesCage]

THANK YOU.

[@T_Dude]

Wyvern Boss Fight is the best in Frontiers, and possibly the best in the series. And yeah, BTIA is slandered too much.

[@FunnyMan2742]

Bro is spittin!

[@kitskipp]

lol it’s my favorite titan theme it don’t deserve this bruh 😭😭

[@jackalsniper4232]

Bro that beginning is so good! It's the heaviest song in Sonic history

[@Falco-Lombardi]

You really can't go wrong with any song, Sonic just has soooo many bangers

[@GamesCage]

TRUE

[@asafolarin102999]

The last few rounds of this bracket aged me 10 years

[@petesoys6348]

42:09. The amount of robbery for What I'm Made Of is worse here than last time. How did Lights, Camera, Action beat it?! I'm genuinely confused on how you guys didn't even give it a chance, much less the chat a chance to say What I'm Made Of, considering they did. Man, I'm crying. Nonetheless, this was a pretty hard tier list that came down to Live and Learn or What I'm Made Of on my end. But you're finale made perfect sense as well. Still though, not happy with how WIMO not only got robbed, but also got jumped, kidnapped, beat, and mugged.

[@solidskullz5736]

They’re all just so good but I gotta give it to endless possibility. Everything about it is so perfectly “sonic”. I’ll also mention this machine simply because it isn’t talked about enough lol

[@Armageddon_Z]

Based

[@GamesCage]

GRAAAHHH

[@mechashadow]

​@@GamesCage It's the Jump Up Superstar of Sonic and yet you ditched it=p

[@chillihog1543]

Raw take

[@amytheprettyweirdfangirl3786]

U R SO CORRECT, UR SO REAL FOR THIS, ENDLESS POSSIBILITY HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND ALWAYS WILL BE MY FAVORITE SONIC SONG!!!

[@manueljaramillo2520]

The argument during Dark Gaia vs Undefeatable was the best. The back and forth between you all was hilarious. As much as I love my orchestral tracks, Undefeatable is the new peak for me.

[@GamesCage]

LMAOOONGLAD

[@ace_icemaster8157]

The murder of Live and Learn is most definitely going onto your criminal record ngl lmaooo

[@GamesCage]

LMAO

[@Armageddon_Z]

Nah they really had like a damn near 10 minute argument of Dark Gaia Vs Undefeatable, literally the best part of the video I love you guys

[@GamesCage]

LMAAOOOOOO

[@Much_Ado]

i was just listening to it and thinking to myself "undefeatable beat _live and learn._ do you guys really think dark gaia could have done that?"

[@Super_Cinder.Inferno]

​@@Much_AdoI Personally Prefer Live And Learn Over Endless Possibilities

[@justjosh9353]

In my opinion, Live and Learn was not only a hype song, but also brought forward a message. It conveyed the entire story built up to that peak moment. The faith of the planet is at stake, and you have a couple of minutes to do something. Literally hanging on the edge of tomorrow. It told a story about sonic and shadow and everyone’s else’s character growth. When the characters and the song are hyping you up then you know it’s a number one song. Undefeatable is definitely a hype song and a really good one, but Live and Learn and a few others just conveyed something more than hype. So in my opinion i have to give it to live and learn.

[@GamesCage]

VALID

[@t_t356]

UNDEFEATABLEEEE. the inclusion of metalcore in sonic is one of the hypest things to ever happen, period.

[@de_sterrennacht]

Endless possibility was the song that made me a Sonic fan so it was, is and always will be my number 1 favourite song

[@GamesCage]

NEVER EEEENDING

[@amytheprettyweirdfangirl3786]

YESSSSS MY GOAT, SAME HERE 🤝

[@elibonham4388]

but what about one way dream

[@amarvax3442]

For me, it's Find your Flame because the presentation of that fight goes hard and works with the song. The way Sonic and Knight throw down with the Axe Kick, the wall slam, the barrage on Knight's legs, the ACTUAL Chaos Spear, the uppercuts, the way Knight starts with his sword, and the Finale is crazy! Best Sonic Boss Fight ever to me!

[@GamesCage]

I RESPECT U

[@Heilos2014]

I sincerely appreciate how hard you went for Undefeatable at the very end because IT'S THE TRUTH lol

[@GamesCage]

FACT

[@johnsaibot2359]

Solaris has the potential to be the best final boss in the series because of the idea of switching into 3 characters and he can damage super state hedgehogs.

[@blizarrdkung5164]

Which I wish we will see that in new sonic era that presenting combat action and peak. And to be honest 06 has a lot of potential, story is quite interesting, presenting Silver which they wasted him completely right now and amazing music especially Orchestra.

[@zackblade3856]

Undefeatable defined the new direction the series was going in, it deserved to win, its the new fans Live and Learn and something that'll be remembered for as long as this series exists

[@T_Dude]

I agree. I’m glad Live and Learn went out against Undefeatable, that delft touching. It also beat His World, so I’m very happy with its run.

[@kovkover6191]

Now I hope Hype Guy and the Hype Squad will fight each other shirtless

[@T_Dude]

While I’m sad Live and Learn didn’t win, I’m glad it lost to Undefeatable. The old-school Super Sonic theme passes the torch to the new-gen. But with that said, though, nothing else in Sonic has or ever will compare to Live and Learn being played at the Sonic Symphony. That was a god-like experience for me.

[@T_Dude]

Also, I love how people think Infinite’s theme is the edgiest in the series when Almost Dead is right there.

[@T_Dude]

Also: Live and Learn: “HANGING ON THE EDGE OF TOMORROW!” Undefeatable: “I’M HANGING ON TO THE OTHER SIDE!”

[@flameangel2514]

Live and learn, you will always be my #1 favorite sonic theme song of all time hands down 🥺

[@AquaSpikes]

Let’s be real it should have been Undefeatable vs City Escape in the end.

[@GamesCage]

TRUE

[@Smug_K]

No it should’ve been city escape va endless possibilities!!!

[@GrassyBoy]

I definitely agree. Super Sonic vs Dark Gaia is literally hype as hell and Unleashed is my favorite game in the series (Frontiers is really close behind it. We'll see if Update 3 take the cake.) But I'm never opening up that song just to listen to it on a random Tuesday morning. I'll listen to Undefeatable at any point in the day. (Endless Possibility is my favorite song in the series. Undefeatable is a very close second.)

[@VioletIsBiru]

44:24 Infinite vs Pumpkin Hill The true epic rap battle of history

[@mechashadow]

Fadel's choices have driven Johnny long enough to become the villain. That said, definitely one of the most entertaining fights I've seen on KZbin with some popcorn.

[@GamesCage]

🥺💜

[@SeanB-wi5yh]

Its crazy that Sonic Frontiers is the newest sonic game and has the best vocal songs in the series. Undefeatable, break through it all and Find your flame are better than 99% if not 100% of the other songs in the series

[@TheDiamondBayBay]

That's a bit extreme. I personally that majority of the songs from Adventure 1 and 2. Hero's has some great bangers, 06' has great orchestral tracks and even Generations, Colours and Unleashed have classic tracks and to an extent, Forces has some underrated bangers. Yes, Frontiers themes are instant classics and i adore them, but saying the OST is automatically better than everyother OST combined because of 3 screamo metal songs is a burning hot take

[@VashRose22]

49:34 I never seen the poll soo close like that before in the chat 56:45 that was pure chaos 😂😂😂

[@GamesCage]

FIGHT

[@VashRose22]

@@GamesCage tatakae

[@sleepy9102]

Endless possibility take it for me, when you guys had it against undefeatable. You were like oh we got dark Gia; then it ended facing undefetable and the argument for it was it has lyrics lol.

[@GamesCage]

GRAAAHHHH

[@masterofgamesbrian7058]

To me, the presentation of the game helps the song so, I gave it to Undefeatable

[@lesliejacoby9137]

Even though Endless Possibilities loss in the final it really came dow to Live and Learn vs Undefeatable (Live and Learn best endless possibilities for sure come at me). As much as I love Undefeatable I know Live and Learn is a song that will speak to more people and while it doesn't peak as much as Undefeatable through out I gotta go with it (Btw sonic generations crisis city deserves some recognition).

[@lesliejacoby9137]

I meant live and Learn beats not best (but at the same time kinda is)

[@joshuasgameplays9850]

Holy shit dude Johnny is saying so many L opinions you'd think he has a humiliation fetish

[@Khyon521]

LIVE AND LEARN

[@GamesCage]

HANGING ON THE EEEDGE

[@thestormthatisapproaching6705]

OF TOMORROoOoOoW

[@CaribbeanOlympian]

Replaying Black Knight and finding out that it has some of the best music in the series is wild to me. I love the current Black Knight resurgence the community is having!

[@GamesCage]

MHM

[@kappakiev9672]

The biggest takeaway from this is Fadel can’t be trusted to decide top 12 of ANYTHINg

[@GamesCage]

I WOULD IF I WAS ALLOWED

[@AngelPerez-tu1nk]

Any answer other than Live & Learn is BLASPHEMY. Hehehe, no, but seriously, Live & Learn EMBODIES Sonic. It is true that lyricaly it's also just as tied to Shadow, but there is no doubt that as a whole Live & Learn became the anthem of Sonic for a reason.

[@T_Dude]

Absolutely, and the Sonic Symphony capsulates that. However, I’m glad it went out against Undefeatable.

[@AngelPerez-tu1nk]

@@T_Dude That at least

[@Nateziller]

All 4 of the titan themes are the best on my opinion

[@GamesCage]

PEAK

[@EveIrkens]

Jokes on you Ultima, Sonic IS my best friend and we're gonna save the world together. FIST BUMP BEST

[@GamesCage]

NU UH

[@jagerzaku9160]

BANGER SHOW LOVE THE MUSIC RANKING SHOWS WITH JOHNNY

[@GamesCage]

GRAAAAHHH

[@devengauna2003]

For a moment I thought it would be City Escape v.s Find your flame again. And that FYF was gonna win again

[@ScapeVEVO]

Should make a bracket for non-vocal themes, specifically the classic games, the advance games, Battle, rush games, and ig Mania can go here too (still feels unfair tho) Cause tbh it just felt unfair for Advance 2 and 3 here lol They have bangers!! They just don’t hold their own against the juggernauts that appear in the console games You need zone themes (including the different acts) as well as the hubs, different menu themes, final boss/extra boss themes, and lest we leave out the staff rolls…

[@GamesCage]

Agreed LOL

[@super_jak]

It physically hurt when Solaris was passed for Break Through It All, and THEN His World lost to Live and Learn "because you hear it in the final fight". YEAH BECAUSE THE FINAL FIGHT ONE WAS KILLED OFF Also Dark Gaia got to continue alongside Endless possibilities, while Solaris lost because His World was in. My soul is dead. Welp at the very least my lack of a soul meant I had no stake in the final matchup. Just got to enjoy an entertaining collective meltdown. XD

[@ThatSneakman]

I've never laughed so hard at having my ears blasted by someone deep throating their mic

[@shonenbois]

You’ll always be my favorite Sonic Theme Endless Possibilities🥹🫡

[@3X3LR8]

I can respect that.

[@GamesCage]

Good choice!!!

[@shonenbois]

@@GamesCage thx bro!

[@mrelephante]

I love a bunch of sonic ost, so much are amazing

[@GamesCage]

SAME

[@YOSHBAG]

The absolute warfare between undefeatable & perfect dark gaia had me rolling.

[@Silverwing_cc]

I do hope we would get more of these videos I really love the discussion of fadel and his friends

[@GamesCage]

WE WILL!

[@Lordmetalic0101]

About the non-ending song argument on Super Sonic V.S Dark Gaia vs Undefeatable, dude... It's a game song, it's obviously has to repeat to keep the music on the gameplay, while Undefeatable is a single lyric song. That argument honestly is really dumb... By the way, Find your flame should have won against Undefeatable. By the way x2, What i'm made of it's the best Crush 40 song, even better than Live and Learn.

[@mariogutierrez5797]

51:57 Undefeatable Found It’s Flame and Brone Through It All

[@GamesCage]

Eyyyy

[@CoJoHo]

The final rounds were honestly very tough, my personal Winner would've been Find Your Flame but I gotta respect the other Top 5 🤝

[@taintedexcalibur]

23:49 "he's literally the morbius of sonic" ultima is wrong for that 😭

[@GamesCage]

😭😭😭

[@lks19]

That said, Live&Learn takes the crown. I'm here (revisited) in 2nd place and Break through it all in 3nd place. Nega Wisp armor second phase as a cool honorable mention.

[@okDunski]

Had chills while watching this whole video😭😭 so much nostalgia

[@GamesCage]

😭😭

[@shiffpup2529]

As someone who likes both, I Am All of Me and Infinite has become the "flirting vs harassment" meme. I hate that.

[@GamesCage]

MASNSJSJDJXJ

[@DaGrounderZone]

Windmill Isle and Wave Ocean is the definition of rizz

[@GamesCage]

TRUE

[@langalea]

Undefeatable is really undefeatable huh lol

[@GamesCage]

YEAAAH

[@joshuasgameplays9850]

One Way Dream vs Knight of the Wind physically hurt me

[@Hugo-yz1vb]

Break Through It All not being in the Top 10 is a crime in and on itself and a middle finger to logic and morals

[@GamesCage]

MAN

[@Hugo-yz1vb]

@@GamesCage I can tell you agree

[@joshuasgameplays9850]

fr fr, Break Through It All goes UNREASONABLY hard

[@Hugo-yz1vb]

​@@joshuasgameplays9850 'Do or die' ahh song

[@lesliejacoby9137]

That ending though 😂👌.

[@joshuasgameplays9850]

"Boss 2, hear me out" They did not hear him out.

[@leonardo6088]

His World by zebrahead will ALWAYS be the GOAT

[@DazedMemories]

I love that two of my favorite top ten Sonic songs were the final 2 :3. I wish that Never Turn Back was on the list, though

[@GamesCage]

LOL FAIR

[@PikaPiPika]

This basically came down to 'Does this song have Vocals?' Windmill Isle Day deserved better.

[@vicaaronnaval1881]

It just comes to show that Frontiers' music, whether it's in the open-zones, Cyberspace, minigames, minibosses, titan bosses, cutscenes and more, absolutely made an impact in the art of Sonic music. But overall, whether its new or old, and bad or good, all of Sonic's music is a masterpiece. Let's just respect the music and each other's opinions about Sonic's music. All of Sonic's music are amazing. 💙🦔🎧🎼🎶🎸

[@adamtheriault6743]

This is like watching someone trying to save over 100 of their friends but trying to justify having to kill them all off except one for the sake of survival

[@GamesCage]

LOOOOLL

[@StarBray64]

18:22 lol 😆 yea knight of the win 🏅

[@GamesCage]

HELL YEA!!

[@Azurezuu]

just call me a flame finder the way I'm here inside your home

[@GamesCage]

GOOOOOOO

[@Shortzxznigg]

Here we go again

[@Shortzxznigg]

Note: never hear anyone out

[@GamesCage]

GRAAAHHH

[@Spartanyoshi64]

The ending was so funny and I like both the super sonic vs dark Gaia and undefeatable but undefeatable take the win is just a hype peak song

[@GamesCage]

MHM

[@frostreaper2311]

With Me and Into the fire would’ve slaughtered imo

[@XGame80]

It should’ve been Solaris vs Undefeatable at the end. I will stand by this until the day I die, His World > Endless Possibilities. But still, Undefeatable is just the best Super Sonic song, and Solaris is right behind it

[@kbennett365]

Its funny whenever live and learn gets put up against other songs because its like the sonic national anthem

[@jagerzaku9160]

Man I’m rewatching this and Friends over Open your Heart was straight up sacrilegious. That’s the biggest Chat L of all time.

[@mrelephante]

what im made of and the titan songs *and infinite* are amazing and my personal favourites

[@ArcaneSequence]

when i did this for myself the final round was between knight of the wind and live and learn

[@MostlyMocchi]

at 56:39 I almost jumped out of my window. FIND YOUR FLAME SHOULD'VE TOOK THAT

[@GamesCage]

AAAAAGHH

[@BreetonBoi]

Sonic Advance Character Select Screen getting absolutely NO LOVE AT ALL means you didn’t play Sonic Ultimate Flash growing up which leaves me very disappointed 😩 4:31

[@GamesCage]

❤️🥺

[@dariusbrawl3759]

Gotta disagree with the frontiers ost placing this high like yea i'd listen to both undefeatable & EP (original) while scrolling YT but on a practical level (ex while gaming)? i'm running endless in a heartbeat

[@emu2746]

The modern sonic meatriding is crazy

[@masterofgamesbrian7058]

To me, the thing that helps Undefeatable the most, is its presentation, with Dark Gaia, 1st phase) Float up to it as the Gaia Colosis, making sure to dodge and block his attack, then do a quick-time event to hit him and do the minimalist damage ever 2nd phase(aka Perfect Dark Gaia)) as Super Sonic you have to quickly hit some tenticles to lower its shield and do one final quick-time event and that's it. But, with Undefeatable and Giganto, you gotta clime up Giganto's body to get the final Chaos Emerald to transform into Super Sonic and then it's just a fist fight for the ages, both phases are identical with the 2nd phase adding lasers so you can't cyloop. But still, At the end of the day, it's whatever the person's opinion is and that's far but, to me the winner is Undefeatable. Ps. Hopefully there's one more song debate adding the songs from Update 3.

[@Romanode_]

The ending💀

[@GamesCage]

LMAO

[@dariusbrawl3759]

Can u link the site u used to rank the songs?

[@mrelephante]

19:41 lmao amazing impression

[@kevin13cabello]

Y'all should do these for persona music too, if you haven't already.

[@GamesCage]

WE SHOULD

[@Gameorama91]

Yessssssss gotta see that one!

[@HopefulBlue]

Undefeated is carried so hard by being the first vocal song you hear. Knight is more engaging than Giganto, the guitar solo goes harder, and the ending of the song and the fight is much better.

[@orpheusmusic_]

ENDLESS POSSIBILITIES SOLOS GRAHHHHH🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@raphaelsouza8234]

Yeahhhhh

[@0ttimo]

windmill isle and chemical plant are my first and second favorite stage themes why they do this 😭

[@GamesCage]

😭😭😭

[@Masonia_]

That last argument got a little heated 😅, Undefeatable is peak sonic tho IMO.

[@GamesCage]

MHM

[@mr__switch1825]

RECENCY BIAS IT'S PERFECT DARK GAIA

[@GamesCage]

NOPE

[@SeanB-wi5yh]

Ultima's beef with the Forces soundtrack is so funny

[@GamesCage]

ONGOD

[@Safalmao]

my personal favorite/best sonic song is definitely HIS WORLD

[@GamesCage]

IN HIIIS WOOOOOOOOOORLD

[@raiu_fp5194]

Hot take I’m Here> Live and Learn

[@GamesCage]

VERY

[@amytheprettyweirdfangirl3786]

AYO- YOU'D BE RIGHT IF YOU PUT ANY OTHER FRONTIERS SONG ABOVE LIVE AND LEARN INSTEAD (I'm Here, although I do like it, is the weakest vocal theme in Frontiers imo - yes, even compared to Dear Father lol)

[@Shadow_andPals]

This was a war of sonic music Jesus IMAO!!! 😂😂😂

[@stallionsLP]

This tournament is the ultimate example of why you don't do one of these shortly after a new game comes out if said game's music hits hard. Because inevitably recency bias trumps any logic or thought.

[@mrelephante]

*i actually really like infinite's theme*

[@donteveil8628]

AND YOU CAN THROW ME TO THE WOLVES CAUSE I AM UNDEFEATABLE AHHHHHHHHHHHH 🔥🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣

[@GamesCage]

GOOOOOO

[@IkeTheBot]

I was laughing so much watching this, especially during that final round🤣

[@couldnotic]

Man it suck pitting 2D Sonic music vs 3D Sonic Music. I think its the fact that alot of 3D sonic game have vocal lyrics now while 2D Sonic music retains that classical musical sound from Genesis Era. There should be like a Best 2D sonic music debate. Which includes the likes of Sonic 1,2 3&K, CD and Mania wondering if Generations version should be included on the debate for Gensise Era music also including the 3Ds versions of Casino Night and Mushroom Hills.

[@notsonicx55]

Undefeatable is truly undefeatable 💯✓✓

[@relaxedhoodie7309]

Whoever is that dude who disagrees with everything and keeps saying “Hear me out” (I’m sorry I do that know who he is.) I want to never know how his head works. He scares me.

[@GamesCage]

JAJDJDJDKDJDKKDKDKDKCKD

[@Working_Dreamer]

Great list! I wish some of the credit songs were listed on this challenge. “Love Is Worth A Chance” from Secret Rings and “Live Life” from Black Knight are super underrated! “Dear My Friend” from Unleashed is a great contender too! Even “My Destiny” from 06 is a great song when you separate it from the story. Great choices overall though! Sonic songs are top tier!

[@hotcoco2413]

mfs were so crazy at the end 😭 . [ Sun 6:17pm 2/11/2024 ]

[@rodrigomorales563]

The frontiers bias is PALPABLE. 😂

[@Smug_K]

especially that it had a sucky final boss

[@EdgeLordFan52]

49:35 this is a one way ticket to make a soul die😭💀