The Finals Has A Cheating Problem...

This video is a message to Embark about Season 3 and the problems of cheating and boosting. If you found this video helpful or worth watching, please like and share so we can get the right eyes on this.
Clip Shoutouts:
Griz, Rosen, Pluto, Neri, and more! I appreciate your help!!!!
Special Shoutouts:
FabulousTiger, my duo partner through all of this.
Neri, someone who first spoke out against the boosting problem.
and Tangerine, Sin, HeroHunter, Conceal, FedeleMouse, SneakyTrap and all my other queue buds that I did not name. Hope we can all play again soon.
LINKS TO THE CHEATER KZbin VIDEOS NAMED IN THE VIDEO:
Video 1:
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Video 2:
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I am sharing the links hoping those accounts can be held accountable and banned for their actions.

[@jal-kx6tm]

man all 20 people playing TA ranked must be really bummed

[@CB256]

Frfrfr

[@killerfroggaming6397]

Ong

[@RedRokPlayz]

This is a hilarious comment that many don't get. 😂

[@PIMPhasbulla]

I’m at the point rn where I’ll climb 1500 or so then lose to a cheater and lose the 1500 I just spent 4 games winning it’s not even fun anymore

[@smoking_weasel]

Yeah this elo system doesn't make any sense, plus the low population doesn't help either

[@jordonwest6892]

Been happening to me since beginning of season

[@DevGods]

You might not realize this, but EVERY big game has a cheater problem. You cannot truly stop cheaters without also punishing the legit players and ruining their experience as well. So here are your solutions, 1. Become an engineer and create a software that 100% stops cheaters as well as maintains client autonomy. (This will make you an overnight billionaire) 2. Play single player games 3. Play dead multiplayer games. 4. Let it go and cherish the matches where you don't face cheaters. Because as long as the game has popularity no lifers will cheat, hack and bot their way to the top so they can feel better about their miserable lives.

[@colekonop5034]

Fucking fax

[@Snickers4460]

What a mature comment so rare I agree 100% game is fun as hell

[@Jarochito-]

What about hardware bans? Or too complicated you think?

[@Sunzovia]

No one is saying cheater problems aren’t a thing for many games or that the problem can be completely solved, but it gets to a point where the problem is simply too big to ignore and to “accept”.

[@shallot4991]

@@Jarochito- hardware bans are easily worked around honestly

[@mohamadanas6203]

Two days ago, I encountered a cheater in world tour. He was using heavy. Imagine , on the team scoreboard, everyone else had only 1-3kills, while he had 26 kills with the gun. He satyed on one of the rooftops and shot as if there were no range limit to his gun, We were killed immediately after respawning. Yesterday i got notification from dev they gonna punish the cheater

[@yungwildfuego]

they gotta do something about this man, thank you for speaking up

[@kartoffelbrei310]

These videos that you linked of the cheats being used are from the Alpha/Beta/S1, so they might have fix these issues. I'm not saying that there aren't any cheaters (ran into a couple of them myself), but it's not as easy as in Season 1.

[@MidNightFreakOZ]

Not as easy doesn't clear the fact that most higher ranking bastards use cheats to get there!!

[@zaiahfox]

Great vid. Much appreciated, anyone passionate about The Finals appreciates this greatly.

[@KEMYSScs2]

"Shit´s so fucking crigne" invis sniper said, alright jokester 😂

[@RedRokPlayz]

Thank you for making this video. The cheating has become a problem. Especially with the auto headshots snipers.

[@jamaicanbobsledteam753]

I'm not even high-rank but I have witnessed 3 TA games in a row get cancelled because of people leaving. We have a whole generation of whingers & moaners looking for shortcuts. Some of em even try to justify the cheats they use.

[@ניביקיר-ז9פ]

A lot of the clips are really old but the clips that show the shield hack are a big problem

[@scaady]

Thank you for making this and feel free to use more of my clips

[@erokips]

jesus, this quality says 1080 but shows a home depot toaster

[@poll_ox3682]

Oh so THEY WERE cheating, it wasn't a skill issue

[@AnimatingGood]

Oww this video will make me uninstall the FINALS and I have been playing since season 1,2 and 3 and that's why I have been getting beamed from far away

[@SUDDENROCK]

It was really clean in mid S2, when Embark start to get report by video. And S3 start they just go vacation and doesn't look at shit

[@badmushu]

Dude season 2 was the worst season so far. I think s3 has been better and they are much quicker on the bans. No it's not insta/mid match but I report and then next day get a notification saying action was taken. Season 1 and 2 ranked I'd see the same cheater for a week before they got wiped from the leader board and also see plenty of them make it all the way to D1 before getting banned...

[@SUDDENROCK]

@@badmushu The report system introduced in Mid S2 and after that Cheat was really clean, at least my playthough in asia server. For now I got 6 streak of cheater notification

[@Cam_isMe]

They really need to be worrying about dealing with these cheaters instead of taking down videos calling out said cheaters. Like god forbid we give yall a hand and point out blantant issues with the game.

[@Egie427]

They are too busy making skins...

[@azizj]

after emerald, world tour and ranked has been flooded with hax. glad i didnt spend any money on the game tho, since ill be uninstalling

[@GoitoilaKen]

I started playing this game like at the very end of 2023 and ever since i love this fps game more than OW,val,csgo,apex but the cheating problem especially in the TA mode is just make me so frustrated so much that i just left that game mode for good, I stop climbing at 26k since cheater just know where im at and health regen limit just make me more handicap then the cashout mode(already hit e2 off by 9 tours for e1) where i can still try to beat the cheater(since 3 against 1 or 2 at max - havent seen a 3 cheater stack thou). Thanks for speaking it out

[@zenworldo]

These are szn 2 cheats. I haven’t seen much cheats this season. Bad video

[@onikrux]

melee mention instant like let's hear ya out, guy

[@onikrux]

dont put the links to the cheaters channels on yt, man. that 's what they'll get you for "advertizing"

[@zsideswapper6718]

The issue is how legit Voltaic scenarios grinders get false banned for going let's say 31-2 in Quick Cash and blatant rage hackers are still rampant and those in charge of stopping them don't bat an eye. But the game is relatively recent so systems you mentionned such as a lvl requirement and loosing more rank points when loosing to lower ranks have yet to come. Doesn't excuse the fact they haven't looked at how other games try to limit cheating by implementing such system. Paywall would be horrible since cheaters can afford premium cheats themselves so they won't care.

[@KokohG4UL]

This situation feels like Rouge Company back in 2021, where the game is very buggy and there is tons of cheater, and the game eventually died

[@Snook_Dog]

The reason you haven't seen any videos about it is because everyone has left the game bc of this situation but do not worry the team making the game are notorious for turning their backs on cheaters and only making their game worse over time and you're seeing it first hand

[@JohnnyBananas7x]

Thats funny considering i monitor player counts every single day and what you’re saying is a down right lie. Now if your talking about sell out content creators well your wrong there too because the ones that left did so due to views or lack there of. No views no money and thats All that matters to them. These dudes left apex/R6 where they were getting thousands of views to play this game at like 20% there normal viewership snd lost money because it is so much better then the other games but eventually they ran out of funds because the game never blew up. (All the best games die or have a small core base) those same streamers never mentioned cheating and even this guy that made this video literally said at the beginning of the video that he never hears anyone mention it. Apex, Cod, XDefiant, overwatch, Fortnite and R6 (plus every other fps game) has a way bigger cheating problem. Go hip fire around a corner for another decade plus.

[@Snook_Dog]

@JohnnyBananas7x lol its not a down right lie tho, if you look at the player count from day 1 until now you will see a decline, it's fact!

[@SinsOnEvac]

​@@Snook_Doglike every game, but most ppl left because of balancing issues and because ranked wasnt cashout. I never heard someone leaving the game because of the cheaters

[@compameqs]

I wish we had killcams

[@frankliang9298]

in NA server TA every 3 hours of playtime as a ruby i get: 4 ruby five stack(0-7 + dodging) 2 gold-plat cheater 4-5 stack 1 team that is so bad that cannot be carried

[@Sandblazter]

My friends ran into someone ximming on ps5 and it took 2 months and reports from multiple people to get him banned. He also posted compilations of him cheating on KZbin Edit: nvm he’s been unbanned and is currently top 80 in the world 🤦‍♂️

[@xSavLandx]

I’m done until S4 and this finally getting addressed by Embark.

[@jsmith5479]

The worst cheater I have come across had 16 kill 2 and half minutes into a match. Blatantly wall hacking and aim botting. Recently I have bumped into a lot of suspiciously good level 10s

[@WegaBoy]

Bruh I had a light yesterday on console in quick cash have 21 kills before the first cashout was even finished. Blatant cheating.

[@EddBSmith]

I've played just over 300 hours and can count on one hand the amount of times a cheater has been in one of my games. Every multiplayer game will have cheaters to some degree, it'll never be flawless. I was interested to watch your video to see how bad it might be, but honestly you really don't have much actual footage of cheating. There's some, sure, but after the first few minutes and the guy selling cheats, it's really just footage of you getting kills or people leaving the game early to avoid a loss. Hell, literally half your video is about Ruby ranks leaving so they don't de-rank. That's not a cheating problem. Does The Finals have cheaters? Yes. Does The Finals have a cheating problem? From your video and my personal experience, no. Unless you have a lot more footage (and I'm sure you have more play time than me) then really what you've shown is very tame for the amount of time you've likely played.

[@WegaBoy]

Delusional. I literally get the “your report has resulted in actions against a player” message damn near every time I get on

[@cubes1977]

Stopped playing 3 weeks ago with 3 of my buddies. Game became impossible to rank up. We all made it to gold on world tour but It was a grind winning very few tournaments. We could cruse to the final game on many occasions to get absolutely rinsed in the final game sometimes not getting 1k combat score each. Literally getting shot from across the map with lazer accuracy.

[@GLZ0]

I havent come across cheaters so much after s2. Still that shoot through shield needs to be fixed. Also TA sucks. Hopefully they get rid of it

[@phant0mwolf421]

I've never had someone shoot through my shields, though I play on xbox, with crossplay turned off (for this very reason)

[@phant0mwolf421]

Devs need to stop actively banning cheaters and just flag their account for a separate matchmaking que composed entirely of cheaters.

[@McDuckee69]

I have no idea how having a report system that works to ban hackers is exploiting to you. It also seems like you have no concept of how complicated cheating has become, there will always be more cheaters then devs. Especially when people are paying money for hacks.

[@shallot4991]

It’s not strictly the finals, almost all free to play multiplayer games are having this issue at this rate

[@blannkcver]

thanks for the links might as well abuse it while we can 🙏

[@n.erdbeer]

Just play non-ranked and have fun without cheats...

[@bellycar8702]

Yeah Im not touching ranked in this game casual is too fun too.

[@Montisko-w6n]

Boost for the he algorithms

[@MinhTran-freespirit]

RIP GAME

[@Universe728]

I am fairly confident that Balise (who is current WT rank 1) is cheating

[@sourcherrycrunch]

I've been watching and seeing cheaters get caught throughout the years and most of them usually have serious mental issues. take the recent TF2 bot incident. the dude got locked in jail for having CP on their hard drives. so just remember when a cheater gets you in a game, know theyre probably um.. "undesirable" to women lol

[@albinozar]

womp womp this game is 9/10

[@WegaBoy]

It’s so weird this game’s community is filled with fanboys who refuse to accept the game is anything but perfect. There’s a reason the numbers dropped off so hard from launch

[@REDACTEDDEV]

val has dodges and i think it’s a good system, the finals should probably just hide ranks until the game starts and then put a severe penalty if you leave after that

[@TWEEMASTER2000]

gd they need to fix this shit

[@JUAANPIV]

Address Joult and Lisside turning crossplay off and aping Xbox players whilst they’re mouse and keyboard and Cronus zen

[@Treyfuwu]

buh bye ❤

[@hellothere-oi2xq]

Lol, this is why you keep ranked cashout

[@super_steam]

this is why i quit lmao. they banned me when i was not cheating. and the cheaters actually own accounts that are from s1

[@TheSmileCollector]

At least my cheetos are better than the ones in the video. ☺

[@ShootFirstNS]

All the cheaters are in TA, cashout is ok but I assume that's because it's not the 'official' ranked mode and anyone buying boosts or cheats are simple minded enough to only want cheats for 'ranked'. They can't fix this issue without totally revamping the anti-cheat and maybe using something more invasive which won't happen.

[@WegaBoy]

Cheating is rampant in this game. Even on console in casual quick cash it’s crazy

[@Blood_z_wolf]

They are ruining the game

[@jeremyruiz7263]

I’ve never run into a cheater before. Idk why

[@sourcherrycrunch]

they're definitely more prominent on the higher rank competitive games, or you're just not catching them. I see them on casual modes too though

[@Whytho-dude]

I’m in the same boat. I feel like Ive only ran into one or two blatant in my almost 300hr gameplay, but there’s definitely been a few I felt were sus and sent a report anyways.

[@Zizou19989]

As a high rank player I just report and block the player and I’ve been chilling tbh. I do run across the occasional cheater but it isn’t that bad imo. I also don’t play TA much so maybe that’s why, I’ll never play that unbalanced light sniper = free wins game mode 😭

[@Zizou19989]

Light sniper main who plays TA 🤢

[@nathanwood3814]

You play too much. Thats why you keep seeing cheaters. Take some breaks

[@user-vv8kv2fo4o]

Thanks for the vid, bro. I was starting to doubt my skill a bit. Have a great day.

[@Timayy]

I think Fortnite’s anti cheat is p good tbh

[@MidNightFreakOZ]

The biggest issue is that they NERFED ALL THE GUNS, SO THERE IS NO FUN IN IT ANYMORE.

[@siccmade187]

World tour just as bad

[@SwigerQ86]

Well im luxky. I havent ran into any cheaters

[@asdfadfafsdfa]

whaaa a f2p "competitive" game has cheaters?! no way!

[@theundeads1]

classic Embark. The company that will nerf players favorite weapons and classes to hell when no one asked, yet won't address cheating.

[@JohnnyBananas7x]

Cs2 is so trash. The cheaters stay in terminal attack where they belong.

[@Tsunderedad]

Lol

[@TungNguyen-ry8uq]

I play quick play exclusively and I only run into 1 cheater in my last like 50-60 games. When I get a cheater I take it as a challenge and I actually make the cheater in my latest game rage quite from hitting a nasty sniper headshot on him. Point being ever since I play exclusively for fun cheating has not been a problem.

[@Salohcin_Semaj]

the cheaters you can win against in casual modes are REALLY bad players with basic cheats - run into a decent player with good cheats and you cant win.

[@WegaBoy]

They’re not cheating then lmao you would know if they were and you wouldn’t stand a chance

[@Eradicationist]

It's because that game is already as lame as xdefiant

[@lochnesserl8654]

Bad comparison, don't speak ever again lil bro

[@Eradicationist]

@@lochnesserl8654 opinions will be people's opinions and yours also doesn't matter.

[@lochnesserl8654]

@@Eradicationist Especially yours, well said 👏

[@Eradicationist]

@@lochnesserl8654 i mean that games player counts don't lie dude, so its really not even a opinion....more of a fact.

[@lochnesserl8654]

@Eradicationist It's still alive and don't even mention console

[@gnebs2392]

I don’t see any blatant cheating in your video. Even the videos you claim advertise cheating doesn’t look like cheating. I’m betting they just take clips where their aim was impressive and used that to advertise a fake product. The wall hacking could easily be added in post. The sniper dodging you showcased is just silly. Why do you discount random chance? I’m not saying hacks don’t exist but I’m pretty confident at least some of the examples you illustrated don’t showcase hacks.

[@thetrueinferno7993]

>shot through shield >ITS NOT HAX