The Fingerslayer Blade Is Holding A MASSIVE Secret! - Elden Ring Lore Speculation

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The Fingerslayer Blade is one of Elden Rings most mysterious Items, so its only fitting that it is indeed Holding A MASSIVE Secret! Please sit back, relax and enjoy as we delve into some Elden Ring Lore Speculation!!!!!
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Most of the events of Elden Ring and due to the of Queen Marika the Eternal and her Demi-god offspring's, Ranni, Rykard, Radhn,
Godwyn the golden, Malenia and her scarlet rot and Miquella the unalloyed/ saint Trina,
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Elden Ring is set in a dark fantasy world called the "Lands Between." The world was created by the Elden Ring, a powerful object that has been shattered, leading to chaos and turmoil. Players assume the role of the "Tarnished," a character who has been exiled and embarks on a quest to restore the Elden Ring and bring order to the world.
The game features a diverse cast of characters, including gods, giants, dragons, and other mysterious beings, each with their own motives and agendas.
Elden Ring is known for its intentionally cryptic and enigmatic storytelling style, where much of the lore is left open to interpretation and speculation. Players need to piece together clues, engage in speculative discussions with the community, and make their own interpretations to fully understand the lore of Elden Ring and its intricacies.
Elden Ring is also an action role-playing game played in a third-person perspective with gameplay focusing on combat and exploration; it features elements similar to those found in other games developed by FromSoftware, such as the Souls series, Bloodborne, and Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice. Director Hidetaka Miyazaki explained that players start with a linear opening but eventually progress to freely explore the Lands Between, including its six main areas, as well as castles, fortresses, and catacombs scattered throughout the open world map. These main areas are interconnected through a central hub that players can access later in the game's progression-similar to Firelink Shrine from Dark Souls-and are explorable using the character's mount as the main mode of transport, although a fast travel system is an available option.

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[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

Finger Slayer Blade wasn't necessarily made from a Child. Could've been from a Demi-God that suffered from the Genetic Malfunction that causes Dwarfism. And that was the Demi-God that they chose to make it from. Possibility that a requirement for Weapon making of this Nature is Suffering. Brings a Hellraiser aspect to it.

[@OleDirtyMacSanchez]

Could also be that Marrika actually had given birth to many more Children than what has been shown and or discussed. The 1's we battle are just the 1's that survived Birth. Stillborn, and Mirrika's very evidential Curse as shown with the deformities with most of her Kids.

[@sethrose1632]

Awesome theory! Godwyn's killing was the first "recorded" death of a demigod. Makes you think how many died before records were kept

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Thanks so much dude! That’s a super great point I hadn’t even considered!!

[@schmitz8073]

Awsome theory! Godwyns killing Was the first "recorded" death of a demigod. Makes you think how many died before records were kept.

[@ASlopedRoof]

I always figured the fingerslayer blade was a child, but that it was also a representation of the numen/nox losing their ability to birth, in order to gain the power against life itself. Like it was the sacrificing of all men, and that was last male child or something.

[@algorithmicabyss4150]

Less recorded more acknowledged, there were known elden lords before Godfrey but the followers of the greater will often act like nothing existed before them, starting the count anew with their first of something. Hence, Godfrey first elden lord and Godwyn first of the demigods to die, even though destined death was part of the eldenring during the age of the crucible likely allowing others to die before

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@umwhoalol I really like this take on this dude!!!

[@mikulasnevidal5032]

I'm thinking, maybe it was a stillborn baby. Marika's firstborn, who actually died during or shortly after being born, perhaps becauce of the physical deformities, and that actually made Marika take out the death rune out of the elden ring. Then the Nox might have then simply graverob the infant corpse and make it into the blade.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I really like this theory and imo it makes so much sense!!!!

[@LukaGhizf]

this is why marika is thops in disguise

[@fakeaccountzs]

Thops is very kindly while Marika seems like a giant beeeeep

[@fakeaccountzs]

No wonder why Radagon wanted to have her tubes tied

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Who on earth is thops🦎🦎🦎

[@anonfinally1692]

​@@theemeraldgecko310 the disrespect

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I’m not trying tooooooo🦎

[@mralabbad7]

I think the finger slayer blade is warped and blackened because it has a little piece of death in it. Just like the warped and cracked black knives. Evidenced by the curse mark of death appearing on ranni's fingers when we find them dead! So ranni literally copied their plan to kill a god and used it on godwyn and herself.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Shit this is a really good point! Are the black knives warped like the finger slayer blade? Just a theory, but if my theory is true and if the black knife assassin knives are the same as the fingerslayer… maybe Ranni killed multiple children who were deformed to create these weapons?

[@TheRealJohnux]

​@@theemeraldgecko310 the Black Knifes Look and function like warped blade of calling. Though both the Black knifes and fingerslayer blade were made by the Numen in the eternal city, so it might have been a deliberate Design choice, gameplay similarities be ignored.

[@themainvein7097]

I wonder if Ranni’s mentor that taught her the black knife ritual had tried it before with the finger slayer blade

[@mralabbad7]

@@theemeraldgecko310 the "fearsome rite" 💀

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@themainvein7097 this is a really cool theory! I like it!

[@hoshmoggen1746]

"I'm no medical professional" *immediately mispronounces incredibly well known medical term*

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Hence the “I’m not a medical professional”…

[@syndrix1186]

2nd Godwyn body, the flat one with empty eyes, looks exactly like the finger slayer blade and a baby at the same time.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Dude… you might be onto something! Are you talking about the one below stormveil?

[@DonutSwordsman]

Has to be imo ​@@theemeraldgecko310

[@_Potaro]

That can actually be something.

[@syndrix1186]

@@theemeraldgecko310 very much so yes, its pretty much an exact match, and the holes is stormveil walls match the sky of the lichdragon fight.

[@DakkaSap]

my theory is that ranni orchestrated the night of the black knives to create the fingerslayer blade from godwyn's corpse, in the intro you can literally see the black knives carving the shape into godwyn's back.

[@AzazelHash281]

Never knew anyone with a taste for prawn I couldn't trust

[@theemeraldgecko310]

We’d make good mates I reckon

[@scifriskyxy583]

To beat a god you need a god to beat a god with it

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Elden ring in one sentence pretty much

[@nathanb5579]

Lol

[@fros333]

Marika's child? No way. The Nox killing an Empyrean that wasn't perfect in line with their nature of reaching scientific perfection? Possible.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

From what we know currently all Empyreans are Marika’s children… so by you’re logic it’s possible 😋

[@halaflora]

@@theemeraldgecko310 All LIVING Empyreans are Marika's children. The Gloam-Eyed Queen was also an Empyrean, as was Marika before she became a god, so Marika is not the sole source for them.

[@TheRealJohnux]

​@@halaflorawe technically don't know to this day if the gloam eyed queen was a child of Marika or otherwise related to her or not.

[@AzazelHash281]

Ranni could kill 1000's more demigod children and I would still take her hand each time

[@theemeraldgecko310]

You know? I admire the dedication 🦎

[@DaSharkCraftMC]

There were several demigods that died we don't know of. So Elden Ring has a lot of aspects taken from Norse mythology. Godwyn was the "first to fall" on the night of the black knives. He was likely also the favorite son, hence why everyone speaks of him when they mention the tragedy at all. Every Wandering Mausoleum holds a demigod that has died. The Mausoleum Soldier Ashes states as such. This means there were at least 7 demigods that died after Godwynn.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

These unknown could also be the identity of the black knife assassin children blades… someone said apparently the fingerslayer blade and the black knife assassin’s knives are the same!

[@feroxultimate3711]

And we don't even know how many died before, maybe Messmer wasn't the first child of Marika at all.

[@sweeddreams9221]

Do we know the origin of the mausoleums? Did they exist before the greater will?

[@DaSharkCraftMC]

@@sweeddreams9221 based on the description I mentioned, they house soulless demigods. This more than likely means they were also victims of the night of the black knives. They just didn't have the same dramatic effect Godwyn did.

[@MrNichXD]

Lol had to pop in here to say Renegar was like 10ft tall and not a normal sized human at all. So that lets you know how tall a dwarf giant was.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Great point lmaooo

[@ericwalker6477]

Probably got made fun of for being short

[@moxiewatts]

my mum lost my brother and yea, it is the worst thing that can happen to a person... this is something that could have also drove her to shatter the elden ring... the loss of three children... ranni, godwyn, and this so called child which may be messmer....

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I know a lot of people hate Marika, she definitely did a lot of bad, but there really is a tragic layer to her

[@stevebrown3606]

I must say imo that Rykard boss fight was EPIC! It really changed the flow for boss fights in Elden Ring! Not to the point to where it didn’t feel like all of the other “normal” boss fights but in a good way to show exactly how diverse the actual boss fights in Elden Ring could be. I can barely wait to see what Shadow of The Erd Tree DLC has to offer!

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Rykard really was such a good boss, like you honestly can’t wait to see what the dlc has to offer!!

[@schmitz8073]

Rykard really was such a good boss, like you honestly can't wait to see what the dlc hast to offer

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@schmitz8073 same here dude!

[@spiralunity]

I think that the blade was made from the body of the God of the age of plenty

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Possibly dude! I guess we’ll have to wait and see!

[@joshuawilson9005]

What we must understand is godwyn isn't the first person to die the way he died this is how come everyone knows what happened

[@theemeraldgecko310]

it seems to me that everyone loved Godwyn and knew of him, these unfortunate demi-gods weren't...

[@madwaluigi2860]

now that i think about it, we never get to see how big actually the fingerslayer blade is.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

We kinda do though in the item description image!!

[@madwaluigi2860]

@@theemeraldgecko310 i know where you come from, but what great epee taught me, is that item icons can be deceiving. i can however agree that it having the description of "blade", same as the "black blade" would imply a similar size. funnily enough, the most concrete evidence would be the manga (if the story goes in that direction). sorry for my rambling as it hardly changes anything lore related.

[@madwaluigi2860]

@@theemeraldgecko310 also really enjoyed the video.

[@fakeaccountzs]

That’s strange you posted this video today… I was thinking about the three sisters towers and where the tower of Renna rise leads….. Ainsel River…

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Not strange at all, it’s because I’m in you’re walls 🤫🦎

[@fakeaccountzs]

Lmao well what about the Resurrection painting? All the juveniles scholars are deformed. I think our fingerslayer child was radagon and renallas not directly born of marika

[@fakeaccountzs]

To increase your argument as well Rennalas great rune(which is not at the divine tower!) says, “Amber egg clutched by Rennala, Queen of the Full Moon. Great Rune of unborn demigods. Perfects those who have been born anew. Children born anew by Rennala are all frail and short-lived. Imperfect beings, each and all”

[@Howlingbrown]

I'm thinking marika chose a bad mate. Which could have been the catalyst for all of this madness

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I could definitely see this being the case!!!

[@monroerobbins7551]

Or Marika has always had a bit of evil in her. She did say that if her kids didn’t make anything of themselves that they would be sacrificed, so it’s not like she’s much better.

[@qwedqwe12]

her sister the GEQ

[@andrewjones3195]

This is such a cool theory! I know this doesn't match the timeline in the video, but does anyone else think that it's possible that maybe the death of this child could have been Marika's motivation for starting the golden order in first place? Like, the "treason" label was given to it retroactively. It would be a really cool motivation for removing death from the world and why the night of the black knives broke her. Having the one thing she couldn't bare, come back and make everything she worked for pointless.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Thanks so much dude!!! I always like theories that delve into why Marika does what she does and honestly I think this might be my favourite of those, amazing stuff!

[@purify_001]

uhh guys i think i found something for the video based on the finger slayer blade and how marika may have had an unwanted child demigod that was deformed and hidden. at the church of pilgrimage a spirit npc states that “The mausoleum prowls, Cradling the soulless demigod. He is your unwanted child” idk if this may be referring to godwyn, but i don’t think that he would be considered an unwanted child. The spirit says cradling, im not sure if that refers to holding his soul or his body but it may be the demigod that turned into the finger slayer blade.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

The mausoleums hold unwanted Demi gods, honestly I’m starting to think there’s a much bigger story to be told there, but we’ll have to wait and see! You’re definitely onto something!

[@JustZhekai]

Now that we see Mesmer with spine problems in a land full of dead people, that makes perfect sense

[@pkthunder416]

Scoliosis... Scolopendra... CENTIPEDES

[@pkthunder416]

You're really onto something with them killing a kid, though

[@Nathan_Coley]

@@pkthunder416 With the twisted spine he's not that far off.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Im gonna be completely real with you dude I’m so confused

[@luminuslux]

In my opinion the "ghostflame" mentioned below the giant skeleton thing, isnt ghostflame at all. its just a blue flame, just watch the deathrite birds, watch the ghostflame torch, watch spells like ancient death rancour, or watch deaths poker abilites. NONE of these has blue in their color-scheme. All the ghostflame we can see in this game is pretty much a mixture of white/black/grey. That said, even if u were to say there is blue mixed in, all the ghostflame things i mentioned dont look anything like the torch below this giant skeleton.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I stand corrected :) , this is a big oversight on my part and in hindsight quite a silly mistake. Thank you for letting me know about this in a constructive manor it means alot! I hope you have a great day!

[@MilesRavis]

just a little thing: the sword of Milos isn't made from a corpse, it's made from the backbone of a giant dwarf

[@theemeraldgecko310]

This was honestly such a huge oversight, doesn't ruin the theory but it does make me look silly lmao, im sorry!

[@MilesRavis]

@@theemeraldgecko310 no worry, it doesn't contradict your theory indeed and that's the most important !

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Yeah! I’ve made some silly mistakes before, just glad it didn’t screw everything up lmaooo

[@kiwiboy1988]

Great work King! The FSB hopefully elaborated on in DLC.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Thank you!!!! Fingers crossed dude

[@epiccthulu]

Both sides have done “necessary evil”. Atleast Ranni fights for an end to the cycle of Elden lords and gods.

[@williamwadsworth761]

Why is that a good thing?

[@Nathan_Coley]

@@williamwadsworth761 Maybe the literal piles of bodies it took to grow the Erdtree?

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I would agree, but imo it really feels Ranni uses the idea of ridding the world of gods as a cover for what is really her own selfish desires, that’s just my interpretation :)

[@Nathan_Coley]

@@theemeraldgecko310 She's definitely a bit selfish but sometimes it just be like that lol.

[@cool2314]

@theemeraldgecko310 it is definitely selfish on rannis part because she says she is only doing it because she does not want to be controlled by two fingers and will do anything to achieve her goal including killing her own body and may even had her own brother murdered

[@thekeeper1287]

Also considering that the realm of shadow is where erdtrees are born, i guess. We'll probably learn more about this since marika lived there potentially. Among other numen more likely. Also what the eternal cities are full of.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Pretty sure Miyazaki said we’d learn more about Marika’s story (or was it origin?) in the dlc, so it looks like it!!

[@SunnyBunny9621]

if anything i would guess that the fingerslayer blade is a piece of godwyn. not only would that explain the mention of high treason as being the night of the black knives, but also it would give further incentive to ranni for having carried out the event - to not only separate herself from her flesh but to birth a weapon capable of severing herself from the two fingers completely.

[@thiagobnla]

I think the twin helix has to be related to the duality in one being. In the case of radagon’s body, Marika. In the case of the dagger, there has to be some dual body entity, like many in Elden ring. Miquella/st Trina, Marika/Radagon, and so on…

[@theemeraldgecko310]

You make a really good point Thia!!!! I like it!

[@kreadapelu8813]

Before watching, I predict the conclusion is that the Fingerslayer Blade is made from the Gloam Eyed Queen.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Shhhhh stop spoiling bro 🤫🤫🤫🤫🤫🦎

[@kreadapelu8813]

2:47.. Miquella.

[@kreadapelu8813]

It’s been my thought that after GEQ taught Ranni about the Rune of Death, GEQ taught the Nox how to make a godslaying weapon out of her own body. I almost think it’s a bit of Godwyn, if he was secretly an omen that Marika maintained some illusion over his image.

[@kreadapelu8813]

I do agree, definitely some sort of coup. However, I think it was against the rule of the Elden Beast and was planned prior to Marika becoming the host of the Elden Ring. Marika/Radagon and their conspirators, I suspect, swore an oath to do whatever it takes to kill the Elden Beast. No cruelty was off the table. I think I’m beginning to enjoy your videos the more I watch.

[@thekeeper1287]

Also a lot of people don't realize that more than one demigod died. (Not counting ranni since her soul is around still). But the mausoleums hold the corpses of demigods as well as said but one of the ghosts calling them "unwanted children of marika". Its just that godwyn was the golden child (pun not intended) and the favorite of the bunch.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

You make a really good point! Maybe we’ll learn more about these Demi gods forgotten to time, I hope we do!

[@lovesiriusblack]

My theory: the proximity to the grand cloister (the moonlit altar is connected with it underground) and the Nox obsession with creating their own god merged and they managed to create a god with similarities to the scorpion god, the dagger is also slightly curved and is said to have come from the tail of the scorpion god. The Nox used night sorceries so the colouring of the fingerslayer blade is dark and not orange like the scorpion dagger. I believed Marika slayed the created god, banished the Nox and took away their opportunity to make a god again by only having a false night sky. Unfortunately for her, she left the corpse with the Nox with which they could create the blade. Thank you for reading!

[@N1r0ak]

The death of a royal child by those who try to control a magical flame sounds a lot like the Harrenhal Incident that basically sparked the overarching plot of GRRMs A Song of Ice and Fire....hmmm....

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Great connection dude!!! Seems to be a lot of little homage to a song of ice and fire in Elden ring!

[@willsmith5935]

It's very hard for me to believe that the blue flame seen in Nokron is ghostflame. The hue is different, and it is specifically said that the Fallen Hawks had to acquire the ghostflame from the bones of their deceased comrades while spelunking in Nokron. It seems odd to me that, if they had consequently made it themselves, there would no mention or comparison to the flames of the eternal cities, even to comment on the twisted irony of their fate. Ghostflame also burns with sparks of black when used, and while purple fire may also be ghostflame according to an interpretation of the grave violet description, it still does not look similar to the flame found in the eternal cities regardless of them both being partly blue.

[@beanieweanie535]

i mean we have those walking buildings where one of them has a spirit saying it’s a child of marika and more detail goes into saying she wants to go and be lords or even gods so it could be implied she killed or had them killed for not fulfilling such goals so wouldn’t be outta the question if she had more children that we don’t know about or are not told of through descriptions

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Maybe some of these Demi gods were in cohorts with the nox and that’s why they were killed? And the nox killed a child of Marika in revenge? Just flinging stinky poop (theories) at the wall lmao. You make a really good point, I hope we get some answers in the dlc!

[@beanieweanie535]

@@theemeraldgecko310 yea most likely. if you look closely to the art engraved on the chests and other stuff in the room for these buildings, it’s all engravings you would find in the eternal city. can’t wait for this dlc to shed more light onto hopefully other unsolved stories

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Oooooo! I wasn’t aware of this! Thanks for letting me know! Same here, the dlc is gonna be sooooo good!

[@joseflores-lz9sh]

This is a great perspective I’ve never considered. This is something that’s always boggled my donkey brain. I’ve always thought that the Finger Slayer blade may be made from the corpse of the “missing” god of the Ancient Dragons. As we know the Ancient Dragons have a connection to the greater Will/Golden Order as even their flesh is made of gold. But hearing your take on the size of the blades is really making rethink my crazy theory.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

That theory isn’t crazy! Honestly it makes just as much sense as this theory :) Thanks so much!

[@Kaptime]

Maybe that was where we get the umbilical cord talisman from as well (cut content).

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Wait what in the bloody bloodborne lmao, where would we have got it in the cut content? Was it a quest item?

[@Kaptime]

@@theemeraldgecko310 It was a cut talisman to change male -> female actions or vice versa. kzbin.info/www/bejne/m4KldHd5h5KNors No Idea where it was supposed to appear but if the finger-slayer blade was made from a newborn then perhaps that could've been created there and then too.

[@sublimedhaze7792]

I always assumed the blade was made of the god the eternal cities tried to create. They failed to create a god, so they made something that could kill a god instead, which is why its "proof of treason" and why the blade is deformed. Good video 👍

[@theemeraldgecko310]

It still could be, maybe it was a dead child attempt? Thanks so much!

[@Grandsheba]

Rykard, the god devouring serpent, is in the form of the greater wills hand when you first encounter it. As a clenching fist. I wonder how many were trying to or forced to become fingers and hands...

[@EvanDunnery]

I feel like they blade was made from the corpse in mohg coccon cause people believe it’s miquella who was cursed to forever be a child and mohg is in the same place as the nokks

[@frankiefromky]

Great vid bro, I've always wondered who the Fingerslayer blade was. I think it was definitely a god, because we use the Elden Beast rememberance to get the sacred relic sword. Remember, Marika sealed away the rune of death within Maliketh but somehow, he had just a portion stolen... not the whole thing. And this happened after Maliketh defeated the Gloam-Eyed Queen in order to seal it away. If the Gloam-Eyed Queen was the god of death and keeper of the rune of death, maybe the FSB is her?!?! Plus, Melina says she was burned and bodyless... and in the Frenzy Flame ending the rune of death is unsealed and the Gloam-Eyed Queen is let loose once again upon the lands between. IDK... what I do know is this DLC is really going to be something special and I can't wait!!

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Thank you dude! If this is the case… then maybe the gloam eyed queen maybe would need to be a child…. Too true, this dlc is gonna be MENTAL

[@neilsrichter8899]

The similarities in appearance are striking. The Dagger really could be a baby demigod.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I’m glad you think so!!!

[@dracestandifer3940]

I honestly thought that the Fingerslayer blade was made during the Night of the Black Knives after the killing of Godwyn; I assumed the misshapen blade is part of Godwyn's malformed body, after his assassination I figured they carved out a piece of his living body to create the blade as a means to create a weapon powerful enough to slay a 2 fingers, and aiding in the event was the treason committed by the Nox. I think that the main misconception of the blade is it being a dagger, but it very well could be a curved greatsword, but that honestly doesn't matter too much. I think that Ranni had to search out the blade after it's creation because after learning that Ranni deceived them, they hid the blade from her. An interesting theory I have is that Miquella may have been somewhat involved in the idea of the Night of the Black Knives intending to resurrect his brother from the very beginning, and Radahn holding the stars in place may have unknowingly assisted in this. Ranni and Miquella both seem to equally despise any involvement of the outer gods, and the eclipse will be pivotal. Just a conspiracy.

[@user-zz8hl7ov4e]

maybe the fingerslayer blade is miquella's body? not sure if the timeline adds up but it could be his child body that he left behind to go to land of shadow? this was just my first thought

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Dude this is a great theory! He did after all divest himself of his flesh..

[@user-zz8hl7ov4e]

@@theemeraldgecko310 yeah exactly

[@jerbear1722]

The form of justice they had was more skewed, it was against anything not ok with the Golden Order by the time we get here. Rykard for example did help Ranni for his own reasons since he would of pulled a coup eventually or tried. Maybe.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

100% agree! I didn’t word it properly but what I meant was their “justice” like you said :)

[@Khoditsky]

A bloodborne esq civilization sacrificing a godlike child to create a weapon? Yea thats something thatll get you banished to hell for

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Hell definitely too good for these mofos lmao

[@airiquelmeleroy]

The nox were probably banished underground before the rise of the erdtree, godfrey, and the creation of the golden order. It mentions the greater will, instead of marika. Their buildings are roman inspired, meaning they are "pre medieval" designs like caria and the golden lineage. But most importantly, if we suppose the fingerslayer blade requires a demigod corpse, yet out of all demigods "godwyn was the first to die", it's more likely it's made from a demigod of a previous era. Much like the godskins for example, which killed gods and demigods and then skinned them, and they predated the golden order.

[@briankay3146]

Good theory on the source of the fingerslayer blade. High treason means that they were once part of marika's empire and they betrayed her. They were fellow numen who had a whole previous culture before the golden order and they resented marika and her new empire. For their treason, the eternal nox cities were buried underground which is an odd punishment but might have been because the golden order feared that weapon and just used gravity magic to make it happen. I find marika sympathetic. The golden order arose out of war with all factions so things were cut throat from the start. She was just motivated to create an order that would last forever and it lasted an incredibly long time but now at current time, everything is completely broken and the tarnished is now here to definitively end the age by any means necessary.

[@alexclaton]

the sacred relic sword changes size based on its user so i dont think it has any bearing on the size of the being its ripped from (if it even comes from a being)

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I’d only came to this realisation thanks to another comment, maybe the reason the one in the Elden beast boss fight is so big is due to it being in that spectral realm? Where as when we get it, its in it’s true form?

[@hinkelstein1494]

I am a strong believer in the "Fingerslayer blade is the God-consort of Placidusax" theory. From the context of the game, it is implied that the Eternal City was waging war against the Farum Azula Empire. The Eternal City created the Dragonkin Soldiers and developed blue frost dragon sorcery that imitates the red lightning from the ancient dragons. They also created Mimic Tears, which could potentially become the next "Lord"-possibly referring to an Elden Lord. The cut Asimi questline suggests that Mimic Tears can even become vessels for the Elden Ring. Additionally, they developed various magical weapons of war, such as puppet soldiers, living buildings like the walking mausoleums that can be equipped with artillery, floating weapons, and gargoyles made from corpse wax. I think the entity behind the blade might be the reason for the war between the Eternal Cities and the Farum Azula Empire. What I think is that they murdered the original Elden Ring host and Marika later replaced them.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I could definitely see this being the case. Insane theory time what if the god consort was actually a child? Or an eternal child like Miquella?

[@hinkelstein1494]

@@theemeraldgecko310 there is afterall the depiction of a young girl in Farum Azula, the one with the three wolves!

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@hinkelstein1494 I always thought this was Marika… but holy shit dude what if that is the consort?

[@hinkelstein1494]

It could be Marika, of course, but it does not look like her. Her original hairstyle with the signature dual braids is missing. Additionally, Marika became a god when she was an adult, as shown in the newest trailer. Why depict her with the Elden Ring when she was just a child and not yet the vessel for the Elden Ring? I would suggest that the smaller blade makes sense if the former god was a child, just as you mentioned earlier.

[@hinkelstein1494]

@@theemeraldgecko310 Another point supporting the murder theory is the comet that destroyed Farum Azula and the Nameless Eternal City. The game states that Astel was thought to be a punishment for a sin against the Greater Will. Meanwhile, the Fingerslayer Blade is said to be proof of treason committed by the Eternal City. The original Elden Ring teaser states that the Elden Ring commands the very stars. What I think happened is that the cities murdered the child god. Without a god to control the stars, Astel fell from the sky, hitting Farum Azula and destroying the Eternal City. Plad and the other Dragons go full crisis mode form the shield against commets and summon the Storm to keep Farum in the air without the power of the Elden Ring.

[@Nathan_Coley]

Interesting video Gecko. Honestly the whole scoliosis situation makes sense. Even in our world most babies with disabilities up until the last 100-150 years weren't exactly treated well & in the real world analog to Elden Ring likely would have been left in the woods somewhere to "fend for themselves".

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Thanks so much dude! I’m glad you think it makes sense! I’m totally sold on this, but I do get why some people are skeptical!

[@Nathan_Coley]

@@theemeraldgecko310 It's definitely a spine and the hilt is the SHOULDERS of the corpse so it has to be a corpse of something/someone & a malformed golden lineage corpse makes since given they don't care about any other humanoid so it has to be linked to Marika or some other God-like being.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@@Nathan_Coleynot to mention the item literally says Born of a corpse!!!!!!!!

[@Nathan_Coley]

@@theemeraldgecko310 For them to be punished for it the corpse has to mean something to Marika & The Golden Order.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@Nathan_Coley that’s what I’m thinking dude! I’m glad I’m not the only one, plus it gives a motive as to why the punishment was so severe!

[@gilvanroy8158]

Spitballing here, but what if the blade isn’t made from a child but from a misbegotten? Maybe blacksmith Hewg has something to do with it, since he is in shackles and still wants to make a weapon worthy of slaying a god?

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Not sure about the misbegotten point, but I definitely think you’re onto something with hewg!

[@OscarTheStrategist]

aren’t there two of these blades? Didn’t Ranni and Godwyn need to be carved with the centipedes at the same time for the ritual to work? Maybe that’s why it’s a small blade or a dagger, if you put two of them together they make one sword. I still like to think this is a snake like spine though 😅

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I think it might be different daggers although I could be wrong!!! Ooooo? I like the snake spine theory!

[@kamantariq2513]

Death birds have a humanoid skull, bird legs, bird wings, bird tail(bone only), and humanoid arms. They use spirit magic. The more spirits they hold, the more powerful. Omens have humaniod body with animal parts added. Wings, tails, horns. Omens with horns use spirit magic and get stronger the more horns it has. Deathbirds and omen quite similar......too similar

[@theemeraldgecko310]

When you put it like that…… maybe you’re onto something dude!!! I love it! 🦎

[@kamantariq2513]

@@theemeraldgecko310gooood. Here's some more. Mohg gains huges wings after he, huh, Nihils in his fight. The same move heals him as we are bleed out. He uses his bloodflame more, he is faster, far more agressive. More animalistic Morgot after he ,hehum, releases liquid from himself also becomes more agile and agressive. More animalistic. Morgot uses a unique gold weapon magic. Summoning a horde of swords from the sky. Dont forget his massive tail covered in thorns he whips us with. Deathbirds with wings are the most agressive ones. They can summon hordes of spectral spears from the sky. Theese spears are from preists that offered themselves to the birds. Like Mohg's Nihil,they took from others to optain wings and new powers, namely spirit magic( ghost flame/ blood flame and spectral weapons. Deathbirds and theese two omen use flame magic.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@kamantariq2513 Morgott also uses spears dude! I love this theory to death lmao

[@kamantariq2513]

@@theemeraldgecko310 just as Morggot explosively releases his curse liquid, deathbird explosively release thier cold flame. Both linger on the ground afterwards. Omens in the sewer and divine tower explosivly relase wraiths that visual resemble Rancor spells of deathbirds except the skulls and color. Omen spirits are black/gold while deathbirds are blue/white. Not only due both use this spirit magic, they function similar too. Mabye... Just mabye, deathbirds are omen who are afflicted with " thoose who live in death?" This deathroot of undeath changed them into more of an avian animal. The deathbird outer god, Twin Bird and the Gloom Eyed Queen are the same as Elden Beast and Marika the Eternal. With this, both former queens have an animal god as thier symbol The Twin bird vissage in Farum azula is depicted in the shields of thoose who live in death along with a city of the sun. Ghost flame is said to be purple based on grave velvets. Blue ghost flame plus red destined death makes a purple or gloom colored flame. Plus omens are animalistic hybrids like the godskins. Godksins who use black/white flame. Farum azula holds connections to red deastined death flame, black god killling flame, Twin Bird cold blue flame, thoose who live in death and the greatest omens of all, dragons. Dragons that have wings, horns, tail, and scales, giant in size. Thru dragon communion we can summon the spirit of the dragon we killed by eating thier hearts. Sound similar to preists of deathbirds and omen horns/ Moghs Nihil.

[@datboiJan]

Ranni this Ranni that, bro im just here in the lands between to wife Ranni for that Rannussy and her 4 arms. Glory to the great witch Ranni and the Age of Stars

[@theemeraldgecko310]

You know what dude I respect it🦎

[@poopikins]

That's a puppet my mans

[@guillaumesuchet9263]

Wait why do you exclude Godwin the golden for the origin body of the blade ? We know that Ranni killed Godwin in order to kill her dedicated fingers so killing Godwin was just the necessary step to get the blade. If the blade already existed, why would she bother killing a demigod ? (And killing her body in the process ?)

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I responded to this earlier but it doesn’t look like it sent! IMO I don’t think it’s godwyn, he’s seen as being an adult and we kind of know (assume) that body in the deep root depths is his, I don’t think it’s Godwyn but I could be completely wrong!!!

[@jasonleejenkins]

Ranni doesn’t know that Godwyn is her brother

[@theemeraldgecko310]

What makes you think that?

[@jasonleejenkins]

@@theemeraldgecko310 because as far as she knows, Rennala and Radagon are her parents, unless I’ve missed something?

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@jasonleejenkins sorry I get what you’re saying now, I mean radagon is Marika, so I assume they’re dna would be the same? I believe that’s why radagons children are called Demi gods just like Marika’s children :)

[@KodFrostwrath]

Welp, a lot to think about, but not many descriptions to help. On the other hand, just the fact that Ranni was responsible for Godwyn's death should be enough to despise her. We could have Godwyn and be friends with dragons if it wasnt her!

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Can’t agree more, we have to infer alot of stuff which some people don’t appreciate!! Can’t agree more, as I mentioned in the video, people are so consumed by lust for those 4 arms that they just turn a blind eye to everything she does!

[@kamantariq2513]

Godwyn was ment to be the next Solair of Astora. Ranni massacred our Gold-bro of jolly cooperation.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@kamantariq2513 poor dude, PRAISE THE SUN 😭🙏

[@ryanhopkins5239]

We don't actually know that much about Godwyn

[@ravendelacour1917]

I actually think the Eternal City came before the Erd Tree era. I also think that Marika was originally a member of the Noxian royal family. We know the Nox are derived from the Numen and they hate Marika. Why? My theory is the Gloam-Eyed Queen was the ruler of the Eternal City and she was the elder sister or mother of Marika and was the vessel of the Outer God of Death. Marika wanted to over throw the GEQ and the Greater Will tempted Marika with the power to overthrow the GEQ. The GW gave her Maliketh who removed the GEQ's power by sealing away Destined Death and Marika struck down the GEQ and seized her power to create the Elden Ring and form the Golden Order. Since the GEQ's power was founded on Death, Marika shut down Death with the Ring to forestall revenge. But then Ranni sided with Noxians to recover part of the rune and overthrow Marika, continuing the cycle of revenge and ambition. Ranni after all, is her parent's daughter.

[@Jesus-jq5zw]

Two possibilities 1 Marika Shattered the ring out of spite/grief (very unlikely) 2 Marika shattered the ring as part of a plan , and Godwin's death was a part of said plan (most likely) Meaning Marika might not be very fond of the greater will , but until dlc release day we cant know

[@hinkelstein1494]

I always thought Marika shattered the Elden Ring out of desperation. In the Lands Between, the stars command fate and the most influencial star is ofcourse the Elden Ring itself. By removing Destined Death, Marika believed she could avoid the death of herself and her loved ones. However, when death came for her son, she tried to destroy the very concept of fate by shattering the Elden Ring. Supporting this idea is the fact that Marika clearly has some prophetic abilities. She foresaw the return of the Tarnished, the burning of the Erdtree, and other events. Melina recites many of Marika’s prophecies when we visit her churches. For example, in the last cutscene, Melina clearly recites the prophecy of Melina’s own death and our quest to obtain Destined Death. I think Marika foresaw the death of her children and initially tried to prevent it by removing Destined Death. When that failed, she attempted to destroy the very concept of preordination by shattering the Elden Ring, which failed after Radagon partially repaired the Elden Ring once again and sealing the Erdtree from outsiders.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I really can’t wait for the dlc to know for sure!!!

[@monroerobbins7551]

@@hinkelstein1494I dunno about that, Marika does say that if her children don’t make things of themselves that she’ll sacrifice them, and imprisons two of her children, and has an open favorite in Godwyn. I don’t think she was *that* caring about her children.

[@hinkelstein1494]

​@@monroerobbins7551 Marika refers to her children as "beloved," indicating at least some empathy for them. She doesn't say she will sacrifice them but that they will be sacrificed if they do not become a god or lord. This implies that it might generally be outside her power to protect them, and they will have to fend for themselves. When she openly tells them to take her position as both lord and god, she likely does not expect to live much longer, given that the shattering should theoretically kill her, as seen with her body falling apart while she smashes the Elden Ring. My point is that the quote is probably meant to be a message to her children: "Listen, I will not be here much longer, so you need to be strong and fight for yourselves. I cannot help you anymore. Understand?" Again, I think Marika shattered the Elden Ring to avoid literal fate. She foresaw the Tarnished rising, killing her children, burning down her tree, and destroying everything she worked for. She thought that by shattering the Elden Ring, she could kill herself and disrupt the certainty of the prophesied destiny she saw.

[@VAL420]

I actually think infanticide plays a huge part in Elden Ring (and ASOIAF), and i agree with you there. I wonder, do you think the curved spine could have something to do with the Albinaurics (which is why they are lacking functioning legs), such as through cloning? I tend to think Radagon came to Rennala to perfect his/Marika's rebirthing rituals and perhaps that connection is what he was after.

[@austingoranson6116]

It’s an interesting theory, though I feel it stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of the established lore. I feel that Marika is not against “deformed” children being public knowledge as there is no evidence to suggest that Malenia and Miquella were kept secret because of their own “deformities.” Morgot and Mohg were kept secret because of their ties to the Age of the Crucible, not simply because they were deformed. Additionally, I think it’s well implied that the transgression of Nokron was the slaying of Godwyn as it is well known that the Black Knives are Nox. Also, since Ranni carved the Cursemark of Death into her Two Fingers, it is further implied that the Finger Slayer Blade holds the power of Death, and the only corpse it would make sense to grant this power to a blade would be Godwyn’s

[@Travar1410]

I have nothing for ya this time :D great video. Much love

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Whoooooo! Thanks for the lovely comment dude!

[@pilebunker420]

couldn't it be ranni's body? we find the body but we don't know if the swords are a "representation" or literally extracted from the bodies. Radagon and Marika weren't even flesh when you fight them in the end.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I’m not entirely convinced in this, but I do see the possibility, also it would be super ironic for her to defeat and kill her fingers with a blade made of the flesh branded with responsibility’s by said fingers..

[@pilebunker420]

​@@theemeraldgecko310 there's some "poetry" in this, in the fact that she sacrifices her body to kill her brother's soul, too. when we defeat radagon the elden beast uses a sword that was "extracted" from an empyrian to fight what could be a new elden lord, implying that a weapon made from an empyrian is the strongest weapon in the lands between.

[@DonutSwordsman]

Tasty juicy prawns

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Hmmmmm so good and tasty

[@halaflora]

So here's a wild theory. Perhaps the treason was against the Gloam-Eyed Queen, and the "seduction and the betrayal" that Miquella speaks of is Marika's seduction and betrayal of the GEQ. Perhaps the "affair" he speaks of is Marika pulling from her Radagon playbook of seducing Renalla, resulting in the birth of another Empyrean child: Ranni. Following this theory, perhaps the infant empyrean was the child of the GEQ and Marika/Radagon, and the strands we see Marika pulling from the cloth in the story trailer are from the womb of the GEQ, resulting in a malformed corpse of a not-fully-formed empyrean child from which the Finger Slayer Blade was created. We know the GEQ was the leader of the Godskin Apostles, who she cradled as newborns in swaddling cloth, so we at least know she was motherly if not a mother herself. And the cloth that Marika pulls the strands from in the story trailer clearly look like godskin robes, given the texture, color, and stitching. The portrait of the pregnant woman in the trailer also sticks out in my mind with this theory as well. When I saw the trailer the first time I immediately thought Marika was puling something from that woman's womb (I like the serpent theory but I don't put stock in it). Maybe this is what led Marika to pluck the rune of death from the Elden Ring when forming the Golden Order, so the same tactic couldn't be used against her and her children, and it may be what led her to try to destroy the Elden Ring following the death of Godwin when she realized her order was not impervious to Destined Death after all, despite her precautions to the contrary.

[@ProdigalStar]

What if the seduction talked about in the trailer has to do with morgott and mohgs father? I can’t remember if it’s ever stated if they are Godfrey’s or not but maybe that’s why or part of the reason why marika locked them away and omens were considered bad. It could tie in with why mohg was using miquella.

[@adamlandy1322]

Whatever is supposed to happen to make a person-sword, didnt happen the same way with the fingerslayer blade. Its only half of a double helix.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Or maybe its because the person was just tiny?

[@adamlandy1322]

For sure it's significantly smaller so that seems likely.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@adamlandy1322 glad you think so dude :)

[@somefiend5460]

I think I keep coming back to your videos because of the p5 music.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

IM OBSESSED WITH THEM! P5’s music is just too damn good, I wish there were more instrumental tracks so I could add them in the videos!

[@somefiend5460]

@@theemeraldgecko310 me too (: persona games have been my favorite since middle school, but Elden ring is the first to compete (:

[@wake_up14]

The blade looks like the sword of the eldenbeast if you look closley just black and curved

[@theemeraldgecko310]

That’s my point! It looks so similar to that sword which is made from the corpse of radagon!

[@wake_up14]

@@theemeraldgecko310 yeah i saw IT to late in the Video that you've mentioned IT

[@Jesus-jq5zw]

The real question is why would the Nox made such a weapon, it makes no sense to make something designed to severe the link with the greater will, if the greater will is all holy and sacred Why harm the vassals of the greater will?

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I think it goes back to the nox wanting to be the ones in control as seen by there creations of “false” life!!!🦎

[@dingothps]

i believe the sizes are doe to gameplay reasons. both a swords of a certain kind of weapon and the other one is a simply dagger. treating them in a different way would be outlandish. when the elden beast pulls its sword out of radagons body, its huge. making this theory more than nonsensical. marika is know for tossing away unwanted children, hence the mausoleums. absolute bollocks.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Well as for the size, the Elden beast we fight is in some spectral plane it seems, the remembrance which we get the sword from, is the imprint of its memory, imo it seems that’s the real size hence the theory :) I know that, but maybe this was prior to that?

[@squidwardshouse830]

Why does the Fingerslayer blade look like two fingers crossed together. In some cultures, two crossed fingers means a broken promise. That's what I always interpreted the blade as, a promise broken by the Nox.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Dude you make such a great point, I hadn’t considered this! Awesome theory, I can definitely see this as a possibility!

[@claudiuskeat8336]

My friend and I joked about the Finger Slaying Blade being made from a Vulgar Militia. But yeah. That doesn't make sense.

[@olivitaspochasTV]

I hated Ranni since my first playthrough, I simply couldn't understand how that many people were calling her ending the "good one" I guess It's a sign of the times or something but yeah, From were pretty clear about Ranni being a manipulative being through Elden rings narrative, probably a lot of people is just used to say yes to everything a hot chick says, they just show how little they actually care about the overhall story of the game IMO.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Honestly I think it goes back to the old adage of "4 arms can do some freaky stuff :)"

[@raiden2467]

Okay I might be crazy for saying this. Correct me if I oversee something. But hear me out. - The Fingerslayer Blade is (presumably) made out of an infant fetish of a demigod, or at least way smaller/younger demigod than Radagon for example. - It led to the global villainization of an entire race. - Said demigod must've been a beloved child of Marika. (Since she seemingly had no problem with locking up Mohg and Morgott.= - Said Demigod was somewhat crippled or... *Afflicted*. - And it's found *absent of grace.* - It's capable of harming the Greater Will and its Vassals. Am I crazy or am I not the only one who feels like this is screaming Miquella? After all, he divested himself of his flesh, of his grace, and all things golden in order to enter the land of shadow. And we find this transformed body capable in absence of grace. Capable of doing what Miquella was trying to achieve this whole time. Interfering the meddling of the outer gods. Miquella was beloved by many, so if there was a justice system of sorts, everyone would go haywire on the Nox for harming Miquella. It's also worth mentioning that Gideon mentions that someone cut the cocoon of Miquella open and abducted his "Infant Form". And the guy we see in Mohg's cocoon might not even be Miquella because that guy do be looking kinda big and old. Which might be to fool the masses and believe that Miquella was still in the cocoon. And given that Gideon implies that someone took Miquella out of the Cocoon and not capturing the Cocoon with him, and in Mohgwyn Palace we find the entire cocoon might be another indication that the person we see in the cocoon might not even be Miquella. But anyway, I think I'm leaning myself too far out of the window by now. But those are the thoughts I get from watching this video. Thanks for reading I guess. Have a nice day. Lol

[@fakeaccountzs]

Why does the fingerslayer blade specifically say it cannot be used by those without a fate? The only person I know in Elden ring without a fate is miquella

[@fakeaccountzs]

Very interesting post though thank you

[@raiden2467]

@@fakeaccountzs If I were to guess, because Miquella abandoned his fate? Hence why his body, or remnants, would be fateless? If that's how it works, that is... Idk. that's just the whole vibe I get from the implications made in the video. Lol

[@monroerobbins7551]

Maybe it was used with the physical remains of Miquella, or at least a part of them, but at the same time, it would be weird, because it means that Miquella being taken would’ve been from before the war between Farum Azula and the Nox. That would mean that Miquella would’ve planted and watered the Haligtree, bound himself to it, then have his body tampered with, then somehow his body was swapped with another person’s before Mohg took the swapped person, and the Nox made the blade, and then a war broke out. That’s a lot happening, and for no one to realize the cocoon was opened, or realize that “yo, Miquella’s looking hella weird, what’s up with that”, it feels like there’s a lot of coincidence. It’s not that I don’t see your points, it just feels like there’s one or two key events that need to be clarified before that’s the case. If Gideon knows, that means someone else had to have seen it, since Gideon doesn’t do his own footwork, and that the spy would’ve seen that Miquella was gone or tampered with, and not raised the alarm, which seems weird to not be concerned about someone so well-beloved.

[@raiden2467]

@@monroerobbins7551 That's actually fair. I'm not the most knowledgeable in Lore. That was just the vibe I was getting from the video because of the implications made. But yeh, as far as I'm concerned Jonny *Nox*ville singlehandedly pranked everyone by turning Miquella's Body into a Dagger for EldenA** 4 😂😂😂

[@fleetstreet11]

Eternal Cities go hard. Ranni achieves their goal in the Age of Stars ending.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

They up to some freaky deaky shit

[@NathanaNobody]

Lets not forget renna was an ice witch as well

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Yes sirrrrr

[@cjh.1920]

Gotta admit, I was big on team Ranni(mainly because we couldn’t side with Miquella), but the more everyone pieces together, the less and less I like Ranni. She’s every bit as conniving and manipulative as Marika. Ranni’s supplanting of the Golden Order is probably just as monstrous as whatever Marika did to achieve her apotheosis, all things considered.

[@fakeaccountzs]

Hey Gideon and Dung eater are so desperate to end the age they are ready to eat unlimited ass so ranni’s wickedness is relative

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Ranni became her mother while “saving” the lands between, it’s super ironic!!

[@monroerobbins7551]

I do agree, it’s kind of like Marika’s nature was split between two of her children: Ranni got Radagan’s red hair and more eloquent wit, while Godrick got Marika’s trickster nature and shapeshifting veil (also known as ‘Marika’s Mischief’).

[@kronho25]

why a child tho? cound't be a normal size human like us? we are way smallare than Radagon.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

100%, we’re definitely smaller but still only by half I’d say? The fingerslayer blade is wayyyyyy smaller!!!

[@kronho25]

@@theemeraldgecko310 what if instead of child they used the Vulgar Militiamen? if i'm not mistaken they are related to Maliketh and they can use destin death abilities

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@kronho25 I do like this theory! I’m just wondering now though, if this is the case, how are they connected to the greater will other than Maliketh…

[@TeamKhandiKhane]

Emerald Gecko out here trying to throw Ranni under the bus in the last lap but evil waifus are best waifus. To be fair though she's just doing what she does to reach her goal. Ruthlessness is a quality of those who get what they want. Rannis' ending is pretty much that. It solves her problems, and probably not many others. I can understand it at least, to be free of a system you hate what are you willing to do, and at what line do you stop? The answer to success is none.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Honestly if she was doing her goals for everyone, then I’d be inclined to like her more, but imo it just seems like she’s doing it for herself and no one else!!!

[@theemeraldgecko310]

You make some good points though tbf!

[@TeamKhandiKhane]

@@theemeraldgecko310 I believe Ranni is essentially doing it all for herself. However Tannith is best waifu. Ranni is wood and ropes...

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@TeamKhandiKhane 100% agree! Also yep Tanith is the way to go🦎

[@Howlingbrown]

My favorite theory since the mushroom vid

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Thanks so much dude, this honestly means so much to me!

[@tylergamer2695]

Hey emerald, do you think this child could have been Ymir’s child yurri?

[@thesis_gaia7960]

9:50 those sick mfs

[@theemeraldgecko310]

🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎🦎

[@bennettsanders9150]

Someone probably made this point already but what if miquella was killed and that is the corpse of miquella? (This seems far-fetched)

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I actually really love this theory!!!!

[@telenkevichpolina3759]

Can the blade be made from unborn child? The dagger is not looking finished. The sin might be abortion, not killing already born demigod.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

You make a really good point! Maybe like you said an abortion or still birth?

[@pokkenmaster642]

Did Marika care about all the Fathers/Mothers/Sisters/Brothers etc she killed to make her kingdom? No. So why should I care about whether one of her children died as a result of her recklessness thats like trying to defend a serial killer.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Not saying you should care, but it’s important I look at the reasoning behind evil, if that childs death was the catalyst well then Imo that’s important to mention:)

[@pokkenmaster642]

@@theemeraldgecko310 I agree with you. I’m just saying based on the recent trailer, it would seem she did all these despicable things BEFORE her son got killed, this is complete and utter Karma imo.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

@pokkenmaster642 right I get what you’re saying now! I 100% agree with you dude, she has brought this on herself!

[@infatuated9970]

Marika was obviously relentless given her backstory. This backstory doesn't surprise me in the slightest.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Marika really was up to some freaky stuff

[@gotama7239]

oh and the fingerslayer blade could be the body of baby melina ?

[@EbonizerScourge]

Yeah, a nice plausible story. Could fit quite well in the lore. Marika Massacred the Hornsent for abusing her people and these guys for killing her child.

[@user-op2bh7rc9z]

The sword of Milos and Relic blade have 0 connection. One is the literal spine of a giant and the other is a reformed god/vessel in the form of a blade. The fingerslayer blade looks like a deformed and twisted version of the relic blade as if it was used for some unholy reason or corrupted.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

They’re both made from a corpse and they both have spines present on them?

[@fakeaccountzs]

Let’s look at the text of the Sacred Relic sword, “Sword wrought from the remains of a god who should have lived a life eternal. Thoughts on what the weapon portends are many and varied. Some consider it the mark of a great sin, or a sign of great devastation. Some think of it as the end of an age, while others; the beginning.”

[@fakeaccountzs]

There are plenty of other instances in game of weapons being made of bone and body, celebrants rake, Clinging bone

[@user-op2bh7rc9z]

@@theemeraldgecko310 one is made from a body part like many other weapons in the game, the other is the full body of a god. The hilt of the relic blade shows the image of a body t posing you can see the arms and even ribcage, you can see the same form on the fingerslayer blade. You make good points and observations but the inclusion of the Milos sword throws everything off a bit, they just aren’t related.

[@KodFrostwrath]

@@theemeraldgecko310 Some people just refuse to use reason. But your point was made and understood, both seems to be spines which were made into swords, "born of a corpse" as stated by the Fingerslayer blade. Both could be of good help to understand the Fingerslayer and valid points for speculation. Saying they have 0 connection is just denying whats written in game.

[@GhostWriter-Gohan]

Damn, I haven't considered this. Eerie but well considered. Also, please take this seriously - High Treason really has to be an entendre too, Tree Sin. For ghostflame, I've been interested in a few ideas to draw parallels and maybe Wikipedia search "Flame Test" for some ideas. I know temperature and chemistry can affect the wavelength of the electromagnetic radiation exhibited by light. It may be of no use but just one of hundred saved bookmarks I think could be relevant but probably never end up reading 😂 I have been a little bothered about my understanding of this part of Ranni's questline. The Two Fingers she uses this to slay in particular have little outside of implied assumptions to work on, where did they come from, where they hers for certain,which half of the cursemark did she carve into it, who if anyhing got the other half, was it even a hallowbrand or did I misperceive it. Gah. Thanks for the video 🎉

[@theemeraldgecko310]

I’m sorry this is going to sound really stupid, but what’s an “entrendre”? It sounds familiar but I can’t place it! Honestly I’m convinced the ghost flame is an endothermic reaction, it just makes so much sense! I know the feeling lmao You make a great point! Fingers crossed the dlc will have some of these answers we seek! Thanks so much for the kind words 🦎

[@shadquirk607]

Wait, people feel that Marika is the bad guy?

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Yeppppppp

[@Howlingbrown]

Superb vid dude.

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Thanks so much dude!!!!

[@Banana-senpai]

2:17 the sacred relic sword isn't in its proper size. The Elden Beast wields it and in its original size it's huge. All this talk about sizes makes no sense. Also the finger slayer blade could be a curved sword

[@christopherdavismallia9462]

but there are many black knives...

[@theemeraldgecko310]

Definitely! I had skipped over that fact mainly because I forgot how similar they look, but this actually goes towards my point, what if these daggers including the black knife knives are godly children? If this is the case, it just adds another sick and twisted level to that night

[@TheCreepyLantern]

Rani's evil but she's an evil that's the only one pointing at the absolute hell on earth the Elden Ring has caused/created and gone 'this shit is fucked. How about we don't all butcher each other in persuit of power for all eternity?' and honestly that's enough to sell me

[@theemeraldgecko310]

And I get that, I do! I just can’t personally by into it!

[@gainsofglory6414]

Her ending leads to the most butchery though. She cuts people off from all truth of their formation, and them abandons them to be ignorant in a power vacuum... All that there ever will be is constant warring of arbitrary factions and chaos, which is exactly what she wants. She is far from the only one pointing out issues, the Greater Will is pointing out more issues than she is. But its concerning that we don't know what she plans do in this star cruise she goes on or why she does it, and we don't know why she needs to sacrifice the lands between in order to do it. We can only see her actions as benefiting in some way in the stars off the losses of the people in the lands between to fuel whatever she is up to. She is absolutely top tier sus....

[@fleetstreet11]

@@gainsofglory6414 Ranni represents deism (the order far beyond our reach so it won't affect us and we won't interfere with it) whereas the Golden Order represents theism (the order meddling with peoples' lives and causing destruction and suffering and it being corrupted). Ranni and Goldmask's endings are different approaches to the same underlying remedy. Ranni speaks of her own fear, doubt and loneliness but she has her Tarnished consort to face it with. Ranni sacrificed everything. She is not heartless. Her "amorality" is not in any doubt.

[@gainsofglory6414]

@@fleetstreet11 going with such labels, only one thing can be true, deism or theism. Not sure why you label theism with negative terms, but the true one would be the desired one, not the false one. The Greater Will created individuals and souls. Thus, Ranni cutting people off from their shaper for her own purposes is deceitful and wrong because its true. She is forcing people into ignorance and ripping their ability at free will away from them. So any deism approach would be a false deism or a false order. It would be arbitrary unlike the Greater Will. And Ranni doesn't offer deism, she subjects people to the stars and to their own vices and to be controlled by whichever arbitrary faction conquers them. It would be an arbitrary false deism, cut off from truth, and governed by the u fetted wills of men and the strongest arbitrary powers. Also, Ranni sacrifices nothing. She uses others as her sacrifices. She was instrumental in killing innocent Godwyn so she could take advantage of his death and escape her body. She tosses Blaidd, leaves Iji out and dry. She just uses and manipulates people for her own own motives to fuel her own plan for ascension. She turns the lands between into a prison of carnal ignorance on her way out to make room for her own power. Now, there are like 30 things there that are dependent on interpretation and also what we want to be true as there is no set in stone true story in the game. They make it open ended. So both of our takes can be argued to be valid at the same time. Thats why the game is fun.

[@zokisan9554]

now i can't forget Malenia with her being Miquella's blade.. what is it with these references! am infinitely happy to see more voices breaking dawn for Mama Marika 💜🫡⚡🦋🔥🐲🪷

[@theemeraldgecko310]

You’ve got a great point holy!!! I mean she’s not a very nice person from what we know, but there’s definitely another level to her!

[@zokisan9554]

that's the thing that bugs me@@theemeraldgecko310 all we know about "Her" are secondary or third commentaries/references. i don't even trust the o-tones from Melina bc that girl barely knows her own truth! btw is it just me or do i NOT see the bracelets on Marika when she is shown at the amboss "shattering", in one of the game entry scenes..? on an overall note the variance in Marika iconography is very sus.