The FIRST A220! · SWISS BUSINESS CLASS 🇬🇧 London City ✈ Zurich 🇨🇭 A Rocket Ship Launch!

[@freddiesflightreviews]

Admire the dedication of arriving 2.5 hours early at London City Airport. I've arrived 40 minutes before departure before and I still had time to get a coffee.

[@tfft]

Well I’m sure you didn’t have to film everything in the airport 😂

[@damo81ref20]

The airport literally door want ppl there too early due to the limited space! The prime selling point of it 😅

[@gerardoynciarte2351]

Nice video. Cool airport. Love the A220! Job well done.

[@tfft]

Thanks very much 🙏🏻

[@ninettemurk7492]

London City Airport is still quite small. I remember taking a 55 minute flight from Antwerp, stepping out of the plane, walking into the arrival hall, tripping over the carpet and fracturing my pubic bone. Fun times! After beging helped by the stewardesses and the pilot from the plane and some fire fighters and getting some oxygen, off i went to Eastham Hospital where I spent almost a week yapping in pain and enjoying their Indian meals (most of the patients were Indian, thankfully) until an ambulance took me back under the Channel to good old Belgium. A PR from the airport visited me in the hospital a day after the accident, carrying a huge basket full of chocolates, sweets, fruit and books. That wouldn't have happened at Heathrow I'm sure ;-)

[@tfft]

Well that comment surely didn’t go in the direction I was expecting lol

[@ninettemurk7492]

@@tfft lol, what a memory, right?

[@matteolorenzobunag4314]

Well that is a long messages @ninettemurk7492😂

[@bret_fernweh]

3 of my favorite things right here - Aircraft, Zurich Airport & Tête de Moine. It's the trifecta of travel, it doesn't get any better than this people! ✈🧀😋

[@tfft]

Same here!

[@zeddeka]

Love london city airport. It's not elegant in any way, but it is so incredibly convenient and easy to use. The view you get of London when flying in and out is great too.

[@tfft]

Assuming it's not perpetually cloudy and overcast haha.

[@j3ojos]

Fun fact - Newham Council (where City Airport is located) will not grant LCY planning permission to build a lounge.

[@tfft]

Didn’t BA used to operate a tiny lounge during the New York days? Or maybe it was just a roped off gate area?

[@j3ojos]

@@tfft you used to get a free meal at the pub. There was a “business lounge” that could be accessed for £95 (outside of security in a separate building) but COVID shut that down.

[@tfft]

Ah ok, gotcha. Thanks for that!

[@russellgray1426]

@@j3ojosno surprise there, they would only allow permission on the Bobby Moore stand at Upton Park if the builders threw in a Primary school into the deal. 🤷‍♂️

[@alexmcwhirter6611]

LCY is situated in an environmentally conscious area. So from when LCY opened in 1987 there have been curfews and restricted hours of operation at weekends.

[@UnbelievableEricthegiraffe]

Before LCY was built, there was an old gas work and a sugar refinery, They were used as a stand-in for the bombed out Vietnamese city of Hue in the Sniper film in Stanley Kubricks 1987 Movie Full Metal Jacket. Kubrick didn't like flying. His home in Childwick Was only 35 minutes from LCY.

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@ErwinJürgensen]

A perfect short film! I believe this is the quintessential Flip-Flop Traveller flight report. That was a pleasant 15+ minutes. Thank you, Kevin!

[@tfft]

Appreciate that!

[@JohnSmall314]

If you stayed in Stratford there was no need to get an Uber to LCY, the Docklands Light Railway goes directly from Stratford to LCY. That would give you a more touristy experience, using London public transport.

[@tfft]

Whereas I felt there was no need to take 30 minutes to get there when an Uber took 15… at 6:00 😉

[@houseclearance7509]

I was a frequent flyer at LCY in 1987 using flights with Brymon Airways on Dash 8 aircraft to Paris CDG. It was a business class only product which served up to 5 glasses of champagne or wine or spirits and a hot meal on the short journey. Happy days.

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@Braun30]

First time I flew to City Airport was on a Crossair HS-146, must have been in mid 1990s. At the time only taxi connections to town.

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@matteolorenzobunag4314]

I like watching a lot of airplane vlogs like your videos

[@tfft]

Thanks very much 🙏🏻

[@DavidHoughton17]

Yeah I have taken flights from City Airport a few times. Well i live across the river in Woolwich which is two stops away by the DLR train. So in the past i have often taken either Lufthansa to Frankfurt or Swiss to Zurich where i would transit on a long flight to Singapore & Sometimes Hong Kong. Lately i have just been flying direct on Singapore Airlines or Cathay. With the new Elizabeth line that is direct from my home in Woolwich to Heathrow makes it easy but dont get wrong. I really love stopping by Zurich.. its such a fantastic airport !

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@shakesnbake]

I love the LCY take off! The C-series/a220 is on my list to try.

[@tfft]

Such a great plane!

[@dunslaycasson3263]

Used LCY when it first opened on a regular basis when it was just Paris and Brussels. You could arrive 25 mins before your flight, check in and be on the plane. Those days it was turboprop only. Interesting approach! As a regular traveller one night flight back from Brussels got to do the flight in the jump seat on a British Midland Dash 8 acting for Sabena. Amazing approach to LCY on a clear April night. How you put a plane down on such a short runway is incredible. In those days collect your luggage , clear customs and immigration and be in your car in 20mins!!!! For me quickest way to get to Paris and Brussels from where I lived in SE London. This was pre Channel Tunnel. Only problem was we usually ended up on a remote bus stand at Paris and Brussels. Always took ages!!!!

[@tfft]

Would have loved to be in that jump seat!

[@millardkeyes5187]

Even a lottery winner would not have such a wonderful life as Kevo - this is what dreams are made of well done mate

[@tfft]

Haha Thanks very much 🙏🏻

[@northbankgooner6126]

I wouldn't bother with Business Class from LCY, in the absence of a lounge and decent facilities at the airport it makes the price expensive unless you are the member of some loyalty program redeeming miles etc. Flying into LCY would be a different matter, it's great for getting into Central and other parts of London much quicker than from LHR/LGW. Switzerland is on my list of places to go in the next few years, thanks for the video.

[@tfft]

Well, I was connecting to another flight- so surely I wouldn’t downgrade myself 😉

[@DeniseSommerRoque]

Loved the background information of the logistics at LCY. Very interesting! Great aircraft and service, short haul flying can still be enjoyable 🙏🏼 Thank you for the review 💎

[@tfft]

Enjoyable for sure!

[@DDJIndustries]

Fun fact the -100 the first 4 rows of seats which are usually biz have more pitch, same doe the -300 the first 6 rows have extra legroom!

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@jimhearsonwriter]

I live in London, but never had the chance to fly out of LCY. I'd love the experience of not having to travel far to the airport and taking off above Canary Wharf, but it's generally a fair bit pricier than other options - plus a lot of its destinations are accessible by train (in fact, that's how I did London-to-Zurich last year.) So, thanks for letting me live vicariously through your video!

[@tfft]

London to Paris I prefer by train- but any further- even just to Amsterdam and I feel like the time on the train negates the time saved by going from city center to city center.

[@alexmcwhirter6611]

​@@tfftHence there still multiple LCY flights to AMS but no longer air service to BRU or Paris.

[@jimhearsonwriter]

@@tfft Yeah, I'm not sure I'd go further than Switzerland unless I was on a sleeper train... and even then, I'd need one of the new Nightjet capsule ones so I don't have to share a compartment.

[@zeddeka]

Flown a few times from there, but one of the most fun was a day trip to Amsterdam on KLM. First flight out and last flight back. It wasn't particularly expensive, and a great day out.

[@alexmcwhirter6611]

@@zeddeka Yes. LCY was designed for making day trips to mainland Europe and vice versa. In fact KLM flies almost as many times MON-FRI from LCY as it does from LHR. When you consider the cost of a good hotel in London or Amsterdam travellers can save making day trips (even if the air ticket is on the high side).

[@jimmyjames6492]

Looks like a pretty nice Business Class product. Thanks for the info + video!

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@philroberts5367]

Great video thx. I flew Air Baltics A220 this week from Zurich ..a very nice plane to fly in.👍

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@alexmnblyth]

A220s are now able to taxi past that building, and stands 21-28 can handle them. 10 can aswell to the west of the apron

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@andybaker2456]

Fun fact, LCY is not the only one of London's airports that are actually in London. Heathrow is in the London Borough of Hillingdon, so is within the official definition of Greater London's 32 boroughs. City Airport is in the London Borough of Newham.

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@Ben-xe8ps]

It is also not situated in the 'City' of London.

[@abarratt8869]

There used to be airports at Croydon and Hendon, long gone. Imagine if they were still there too!

[@mandeepbharaj4124]

London City Airport is great, you get in, go through security and take off super quick. What’s not to like! Heathrow is also in London but about 12-14 miles out from the city but city airport is about 4-5 miles from central 👍🏼

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@soniadownie8749]

Thanks Kevin 1st time I've seen inside LCY airport Great video again 🙌🏼

[@tfft]

Thanks very much 🙏🏻

[@patrickmig]

Cute little airport. Reminds me of an Australian regional airport like Ballina-Byron (BNK).

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@BrianField-p5d]

Yeh just like like a regional airport, amazing it’s right next to the river Thames,

[@Cray2TheZ]

Thank you, as always, for the great video! Just an FYI from a Swiss guy, rösti is pronounced rushty (kind of) ;) You nailed Tête de Moine, by the way! Best travel channel out there BY FAR! You're the man! Salute 🫡

[@tfft]

Haha that’s only because I looked up the pronunciation of the cheese (and didn’t think I had to for the Rösti 😅). Now I know for next time! Thanks very much!

[@Cray2TheZ]

@@tfft My pleasure! Safe travels and thanks again for the always amazing content! Cheers!

[@EpicThe112]

You can actually book a ticket from Newark Airport on Swiss to London City the same is also said for JFK Amsterdam schiphol London City airport. Even though there is an option of flying the British carriers like British Airways and Virgin Atlantic from both EWR/JFK. Like it and in East Asia you should have tried the Korean Air version 10:59 the thames barrier

[@zeddeka]

You can fly from pretty much anywhere in the world to London city, if you're willing to connect at a hub. I regularly used to fly to various cities from London city with KLM, connecting in Amsterdam.

[@EpicThe112]

@th8257 thank you for telling me about that are there flights from London City operated by KLM timed to connect to KLM Asia flight 807/808 Luchthaven Amsterdam schiphol🇳🇱 to Manila Ninoy Aquino International Airport🇵🇭. That way traffic to Heathrow might be avoided

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@howardbaldwin1226]

Really great to get an impression of LCY and your short-haul flight to Zurich Kevin. Thanks for this excellent report. Cheers from AKL, NZL.

[@tfft]

Thanks very much 🙏🏻

[@guitarsingaporeRapture]

Thanks. Very good video. I have a flight with Swiss on their A220 Business class this September 2024. My first time on the Airbus A220 aircraft. Looking forward!

[@tfft]

Enjoy your trip 🗺️

[@petek5523]

Nice little hop skip and a jump over to the continent, will keep that airport in mind. Thanks for sharing 😊🎉

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@brettkear2933]

I reckon you just might be the geekiest of the numerous AvGeeks whom I follow. I also reckon you would wear that as a badge if honor. I ALWAYS enjoy your videos - thanks

[@tfft]

Hahaha thanks very much. I wear that badge proudly- especially since if it was up to me (and not KZbin’s algorithm) each video would be an hour long and have 5x more info and stats haha.

[@alexmcwhirter6611]

Thanks for the video. I have followed LCY from before the time it opened. Originally LCY handled 50 seat prop aircraft and fares were business class only. Hence LCY was a white elephant initially 15:11 and passenger numbers really took off when Crossair introduced 146 jets in the early 1990s. The 146s were sold as two class: Y and C.

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@andybaker2456]

To think that these days you can fly to the likes of Ibiza and Skiathos from LCY!

[@alexmcwhirter6611]

@@andybaker2456 Indeed. Originally LCY was established as a business airport but passenger volume wasn't there. In the 1990s LCY expanded by also taking leisure customers. It was when BA began serving LCY that the range of holiday destinations really took off.

[@CharlesTrattler-my8uc]

Taking off from LCY is now on my bucket list.

[@tfft]

Enjoy it!

[@zeddeka]

You get really nice views of London, and it's great coming in to land too.

[@peteregan3862]

LCT needs a station on the Elizabeth Line which passes it 200 metres to the south.

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@BrianField-p5d]

Good point,

[@christianbayerstein5243]

My problem with LCY is that they don't offer a lounge which makes waiting for the plane quite unpleasant. But I also like the Airbus A220 with its large windows, nice seats and little screens for flight information. Some also like the loud spooling up noise of the PW engines which is typical for all modern PW engines on the A220, the A320neos and the new Gulfstream G7 jets G500/G600.

[@tfft]

I actually wish it was quite a bit louder haha

[@zeddeka]

The thing is though with London city that you can arrive at the airport much later. So you can cut down your waiting time quite substantially

[@realman6ft6]

Welcome to my hood. I live in Stratford and can go from my bedroom to the plane in an hour. Returning can be walking in the door 30 mins after landing. I was lucky to do the Club World London City to JFK pre Covid which was amazing…

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@JohnSmall314]

The other interesting thing about LCY is that ATC is fully remote. They have a remote location 115 Km away. With very secure high speed networking!

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@scotishtaffy]

Great video. Absolutely love LCY airport, one of my favourite airports.

[@tfft]

I can see why!

[@stevene465]

Great video- I love going through LCY and it is indeed like some temporary demountable city - always a great ride too out of there

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@randompersonasdfgh]

fun fact: the elevation of ZRH is 432m AMSL. (I just thought of that haha) I remember some of your previous videos included airport elevation, and if you've ever considered adding it back I think it's may (or may not) be quite cool for your analytical viewers to find interesting!

[@tfft]

I took out elevation (and very recently population as well) because of the number of comments that I’d constantly get saying it was wrong (when it wasn’t) 😂.

[@CLAR-oo1lg]

LCY is great! It's like a LEGO Airport. I've experienced some wild arrivals and departures on a Fokker 50, when the runway was shorter. I ♥️ SWISS, I was lucky enough to fly in Business Class MAD-ZRH-MAN, the crew, catering, and lounge were amazing 👌

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@cndam]

Nice. Now I must go there. Love the view from the lounge.

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@tomsoden1738]

Wow! What a takeoff!

[@tfft]

Sure was!

[@mierypesado6740]

London, incredibly beautiful

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@matthewmilwid]

The point of LCY isn't to be amazing, but rather to be convenient. Security never takes more than 5 minutes, even at peak time, and you can arrive half an hour before a flight.

[@tfft]

Sure, wasn't suggesting it should have been a mini Changi 😉

[@brian402]

Awesome Swiss Business Class flight review there The Flip Flop Traveller!, Qantas are now using the A220 for their domestic routes around Australia., i believe they have more A220's on order!.

[@tfft]

I think I'm quite alright not flying Qantas for the next decade or so lol.

[@cordial]

LCY is more located like a LaGuardia than in Central Park (given most people would say the centre of london would be something like Oxford Circus)

[@cordial]

Good video anyway, subscribed!

[@tfft]

Haha yes of course- but most would consider downtown and midtown Manhattan to be the heart of the city, from which Central Park is a few miles away, just helping to put it into perspective for those who may not know how convenient LGA is 😉

[@bobbastian760]

London has 6 airports, you're forgetting London Southend Airport. Heathrow is also inside the M25 so is considered 'in London'.

[@tfft]

Isn't Southend closer to France than London? lol

[@mnchr]

A fun trip could be bll to lcy on a fairchild dornier 328jet

[@tfft]

Ah I’ve always wanted to fly on a 328! Was looking at Denver Air to possibly try in the future.

[@gijbuis]

The area covered by London City Airport is around 600,000 m2. That represents a value of around 6 billion euro!

[@tfft]

Staggering!

[@JoseCreates]

Which camera are you using too?

[@tfft]

All of my content is filmed on iPhones.

[@JoseCreates]

@@tfft the quality is amazing! Which iPhone are you using?

[@rsmith2312]

I have to disgaree on the comment "Is London City amazing?" In my opinion, for what I want an airport to be - convenient, hassle free, fast, in the centre of the city...it is amazing. Built on a former dock, where you can still see the dock freight railway lines embedded beside the runway, the ability to imagine then deliver an airport is incredible. The airport knows its customer and focuses on serving their needs well. The building itself could have a a significant redeisgn and upgrade. Flights into LCY typically have a price premium and it's worth it. Note there is a railway (DLR) station at the airport with direct services to Stratford, Bank, Tower Gateway, and Woolwich, which run every five minutes or so, the fare when paid by card, to Stratford is £1.90.

[@tfft]

Amazing as in a full feature destination airport 😉

[@BrianField-p5d]

I’m thinking of coming from Buckinghamshire, Amersham to Aldgate all the way on the metropolitan line, walk down the minors to tower gate, then DLR to LCY airport, not bad eh,

[@thomasbollman6560]

City Airport actually isn’t in the City, but is in Greater London…but Heathrow is too

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@markprovan4332]

LYC is on my list now, never heard of it (embarrassingly). The observation deck at ZRH is fantastic with speakers connected to the ATC, spacious BC lounge, and the airport hotel (Raddison blu). Cheers.

[@tfft]

Ahh I spent quite a bit of time on that observation deck… but there were no speakers!

[@markprovan4332]

@@tfft They used to be near the telescopes, however I'm not surprised being out in the open weather and all.

[@zeddeka]

London city airport is great fun. A number of airlines use it. It's incredibly quick and easy to use and the views you get when landing / taking off are great. You can get into central London so easily too on the DLR (Docklands Light Railway) which connects with the tube. The station is joined on to the terminal.

[@jitkasemt.9548]

I'd like to experience rocket launch too 😂😂 . Thanks Kevin for a quality review as always.

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@r9243j]

Any reviews from London hotels coming up?

[@tfft]

No plans for any, no.

[@Stand663]

London is an incredible city. The population is around 10 million. It can be it’s own separate country. London has 3 major airports and a London city airport, where you can reach anywhere in the British isles and Europe within an hour by private jet.

[@well-blazeredman6187]

Europe's bigger than you suggest. London to Sicily - my last trip - was about three hours.

[@tfft]

Yeah I was gonna say, Turkish Airlines might disagree with the one hour comment 😂

[@Stand663]

@@well-blazeredman6187 I said by private jet. Off course commercial airlines will be slightly longer. I work in travel and tourism.

[@tfft]

I don’t think there are any private jets flying at 1500 MPH…

[@mrajal8490]

Private jets use other London airports, like Biggins Hill. Worth to mention that you cannot fly anywhere in Europe within one hour.

[@lawrenceakini4981]

Thanks for this vlog. The take-off is like at John Wayne airport in California. Awesome. Thank you.

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@lawrenceakini4981]

@@tfft 🛫👍

[@challeck5729]

Loved the video good to your experience out of LCY.

[@tfft]

Thanks very much 🙏🏻

[@老王-d5d]

Great video, there is another one Southend but with very limited EZJ flights to leisure destinations

[@alexmcwhirter6611]

FYI Next year sees EZY opening a SEN base.

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@killerqueen9298]

Hi Kevin. Many, many years ago, possibly even before you were born😅 planes always spooled up with their brakes on. Thanks for another great review

[@tfft]

Yes, that was pre-Kevin haha

[@DesertGuy3268]

Was a good movie to watch. Swiss is belong to Lufthansa and the service is datable , , SwissAir was topnotch and honestly, I avoid where I can to fly Lufthansa or Swiss!

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@zakelwe]

Great review Kevin. I jumped forward your videos, I'm working from oldest and am currently just after India ! So nice to see you keep tweeking the format with the scores and what all. I'd still leave the FlipFlop score card to the end though with some thoughts ... keep the score secret to the end.... Well done for bagging that first Bombardier ! If you ever go to Gibraltar and walk across the runway from your hotel then I will raid my very small piggy bank for a thanks for you. It's a strange place, like 1980s UK or Isle of Man but with monkeys !

[@tfft]

I put the score at the beginning because I want people to watch and take note of things in the context of knowing the overall experience already. Without that, a clip here or there of the video could anecdotally give the wrong impression. Thanks for the suggestion though!

[@viewwwwer]

Can anyone confirm Swiss no longer serves LCY from Geneva?

[@zeddeka]

No, they don't. You can find all the info on the London city airport website and filter by airline.

[@viewwwwer]

@@zeddeka So sad! I think GVA-LCY was much better suited than ZRH-LCY.

[@tfft]

Better suited for who? lol... Zurich is SWISS' true connection hub.

[@viewwwwer]

@@tfft​​⁠ in my opinion LCY is not intended for connecting flights. I don't see the point of flying from LCY if it's to waste time on a connecting flight. If you want to fly long haul LHR and LGW have enough direct worldwide routes. LCY is a niche market for commuters and business travelers which both East London and the Geneva area have plenty of. It is a real shame that they use a bus gate in Zurich and not a real jet bridge like they used to do at GVA. More time wasted for nothing!

[@leneeanderson4848]

That's my kind of take off!!

[@tfft]

Same here!

[@russellgray1426]

Tfft, I look forward to the video of the hotel you stayed in Stratford and the beautiful sunset 🤣

[@tfft]

Lol no video coming.

[@russellgray1426]

@@tfft I thought not😂

[@terryeiss8469]

Thanks, very interesting, but you headed for the east side of the airport and took off to the west. I've only used LCY once to NCE on a BA Embraer, great Club World English breakfast and excellent seats.

[@tfft]

Yes, there was a text correction in the video 😉 Thanks for watching 🩴

[@michaeljake68]

How was Stratford now a days Kev ?......I had a house there.....but sold it last 2019 and moved back here in Philippines for good.....lived there since 1986.....

[@tfft]

It served its purpose lol. Was a bit more upscale suburbia than I was expecting.

[@michaeljake68]

@tfft oh ok.....it wasn't yhe same as it was before.....there's just too much crime and violence there now.....hence the reason of us moving out kf there.....

[@aaronadam4747]

There is a sixth London airport called Southend.

[@zeddeka]

Which is in Essex haha.

[@tfft]

Yeah, I gotta draw the line somewhere. Kinda like saying Stewart or Islip is a NYC airport.

[@KK-id3vw]

Great video. Just a small detail, it was runway 27 at takeoff, not 09.

[@tfft]

Yes, thanks for that!

[@makiwa]

An interesting Video and Flight.... Thanks. But I have a question please, is this voice actually yours, because it sounds very manufactured? Apologies if I am mistaken, but it does sound odd....??? Thanks.

[@tfft]

Hmm, I’m curious what your voice sounds like…Yes, this is my voice.

[@JoseCreates]

Another great video! I haven't flown SWISS yet, however, it looks like their the soft product seemed fine for business class. The chocolate at the end is a nice touch! On the other hand, the aircraft interior looks quite old and outdated especially with all the marks and stains that have been acquired through the years. I hope to fly via LCY soon, it's only 30 mins away from me and I constantly see planes lining up to land. The airport looks pretty straightforward too.

[@tfft]

Personally I think these interiors are the 2nd best of any Euro business class out there!

[@JoseCreates]

@@tfft what’s the first?

[@ahmedabualkhaiir]

Flawless! 😍

[@tfft]

Thanks very much 🙏🏻

[@G_Weller]

I’m sure the flight attendants were thinking “oh crap, Kevin is on this flight…better not forget the safety video!” 🙃

[@tfft]

Surely they fear all Kevins now 😅

[@charliebrown5]

Thank You ✈️

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@geegab5178]

They need to install full recline, business class seats on these aeroplanes!!

[@tfft]

Umm, so you'd need to invent the seat because there are no A220s with lie flat seats lol

[@WINGSANDRAILS]

In 2 weeks again! Geneva - Copenhagen Swiss A220

[@tfft]

Enjoy your trip 🗺️

[@WINGSANDRAILS]

@@tfft thanks!

[@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm]

2-3 seating. Probably designed for 2-2 but airlines seem to always squeeze a few extra seats out of every aluminum tube. Or, was it 3-3 in economy? Impossible, you say?

[@tfft]

Not the case for this one. 2-3 was designed purposely to have wider seats than any competing aircraft while making it physically impossible to install 3-3. Remember, the Canadians are nice people lol.

[@WilliamMurphy-uv9pm]

@@tfft Sure Canadians are great pepple. Have known one for about fifty years now. Governments are a different story. Canadians and Americans seem to have to suffer through some oddball governments in recent years. But what has all that got to do with this airplane or Swiss airlines or better airline seating?

[@manpochver]

I believe that the A318 was superior in everything to the A220, wider and more comfortable.

[@tfft]

Unless it was an all business class A318, I'll wholeheartedly disagree lol

[@ChuckConnNYC]

Ha I call DLs 221's rocket ships too

[@tfft]

😅

[@AviationFin]

Awesome 👌

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@andrewreynolds7725]

Nice video

[@tfft]

Thanks very much 🙏🏻

[@samp54088]

Unless I missed it, there was no shot of what the cabin looks like in general. It was just up the steps and then skip to a shot of the seat. I understand the preference to not show random people, but if you are doing a flight review and don't show a few shots of how the cabin generally looks, it feels lacking in my opinion.

[@tfft]

An opinion you are more than welcome to. If and when it's possible or relevant, I do it. Let's remember in some countries it is completly illegal to film someone without the prior consent. This doesn't mean you can just film them and then blur their face. In countries like Switzerland, Germany, etc., the very act of recording someone in any way is a crime. Publishing that recording is an additional crime. When I can, I try to push the boundries as far as I can in more public setting, but in a confined cabin, when it is full of people- it is not an option in some places.

[@samp54088]

​@@tfft Yes got it. Big fan of the channel. But thought I'd share feedback that I felt without a shot of the cabin I wasn't able to get a sense of what the experience feels like. Never been on a A220, so I was thinking to myself "okay will be interesting to see if the cabin looks cramped vs spacious", but then never got the chance in the video to see the cabin However, I understand the constraints. Again, love the channel, keep it up!

[@happyslappy5203]

In 2024 Airbus is World leader by far. Do you remember this: New York Times 11 April 1969 « Britain Abandons the European Airbus Project; Believes Building the Plane Is a Losing Proposition. » British 'wisdom'..😂😂 Then France asked Germany if they wanted to continue the A300 project, and signed an agreement 50-50 at 1969 Paris Air Show.

[@tfft]

Thanks for sharing ✈️

[@andreas7606]

i‘ll travel by train. Cheaper and less CO2. Probably even faster.

[@tfft]

London to Zurich by train is like 8 hours 😅

[@andreas7606]

@@tfft From my location to ZRH is 2h + min 1.5h Checkin and Passport check for UK + 1:45 Flight + 30‘ to exit + 30‘ to city total 7:15 (best case), while my Train actually takes indeed 9h but does this really matter?

[@pizzaearthpancakesandother2549]

I'm so glad they've done away with the security-theater liquid restrictions! That said, on my last flight, the stewardess asked for my drink order. I said I'll have a "Molotov cocktail" The pilot returned to the airport. Fml smh. You know what to do Kevv 👇

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@willyegli9290]

SWISS🇨🇭❤

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@mikhailavia]

Interesting flight 👍✈️🇷🇺

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@TyroneDindunuffun]

Not sure Boeing will ever recover from their disastrous move on the Bombardier C Series. They didn't want to compete against it, and now it's an Airbus A220. CHEH!

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@alexbrackens2480]

6 airports include london southend

[@tfft]

I mean yes, but the cutoff has to be somewhere lol. Otherwise we could say NYC has 8 airports and LA like 12 😂

[@alexmcwhirter6611]

​@@tfftIndeed I was just about to mention SEN. It's only a little bit further out than LTN or STN. Point is that London is spread out and most people do not reside in the city itself. Hence the most convenient airport depends on where you live and/or work.

[@MrTomcat104]

You can't beat London City for convenience, in contrast to the pain in the ass it takes to get to Heathrow or Gatwick. A shame its limited to regional flights to Europe only.

[@tfft]

Agreed!

[@rsmith2312]

It can be faster to fly long haul into Amsterdam then make a 50 min connection to LCY, than flying into Heathrow or Gatwick to get to Canary Wharf or much of east London. Except of course on Sunday mornings 😞

[@zeddeka]

f you're travelling further afield and willing to connect, then flying to and from London city with KLM to connect in Amsterdam, Lufthansa to connect in Frankfurt, Milan / Rome with ITA, is well worth it.

[@TechTac123]

Consider flying economy sometimes 😊

[@tfft]

You speak as if I don’t already have like 50 economy videos on the channel 😂

[@scottgaranflo]

Long pants?

[@tfft]

December? Lol

[@philippatamsinblah]

You forgot London Southend Airport 😂

[@tfft]

I mean, there's gotta be a cutoff somewhere lol

[@damo81ref20]

The liquid restrictions are back in action unfortunately

[@tfft]

In LCY? Really? Funny I haven't seen anything written about that.

[@COASTER1921]

City center airports really shouldn't be allowed to remain open once larger hubs are completed outside the city. It's a bad and unproductive use of land even if you ignore the well documented health impacts for air quality in the surrounding area. LCY, DCA, SAN, DAL, and SJC all fall into this category. It makes connections difficult and diverts resources that would otherwise go into better connecting the main airport to the city.

[@tfft]

Disagree from the bottom of my heart lol

[@aussieaussieaussieoioioi9450]

Have u ever been through london city, it's mainly for business ess travel and the way they stay relevant is by keeping everything quick and smooth even during peak times

[@steveabrams777]

Canadian engineering

[@tfft]

Thanks for watching 🩴

[@Inigo_The_Son]

I will never understand the Euro-biz nonsense. I realize you used miles, but the cash price for this flight is $150 in Econ or $310 in Business. So, you basically have to pay for your seat AND the empty seat next to you, plus $10 for your meal. On the right side of the plane, the Business passengers also pay for 2 seats, but only get 1.5 seats. It is disappointing that true Business or First seats are so scarce on intra-European flights.