THE FIRST ORCA 3.0 VELOMOBILE AND ARMADILLO CARGO BIKE IN LONDON.

A truly fantastic day as i was able to test the all new Orca 3.0 Velomobile from Flevo bike and the Armadillo from Velove.
velove.se/
flevobike.nl/ www.ligfiets.ne...

[@popeyegordon]

Sorry you have so little to work with but you make the most of your stupid 250 watt limit. Americans complain about our 750 watt/ 20 mph limit not being enough, car addicts still insist on 35+ mph speeds for ebikes so they continue to abuse heavy polluting cars. My ELF is the heavy hauler of velomobiles, it has a 550 pound payload capacity. I can haul 30 bags of groceries or a passenger. I find it a good replacement for the car I dumped 5 years ago. I love the 100 watt solar roof which gives 100% of the power I need for keeping a charge.

[@TheVelomobileChannel]

Awesome! The Orca really is nice looking machine. And the Armadillo.. what an awesome machine.

[@GrahamA63]

Armadillo looks ideal for so many of us. I love practical bikes.

[@tiagomatrix3353]

Muito bom o video!!! Saudações Bob Marley e Jonah Hill!!!

[@rnor3146]

Hi and thanks for these video! Top quality pictures, very good words, very nice meeting : the Orca is a really good product. It seems that the production has stopped... what a pity!! Maybe, someday, it will start again. Forza. 😉👍👌🤙

[@GarySolomon]

Great opportunity to watch the Orca in action, John! Enjoyed your analysis of both Flevobikes. Well done 😁

[@roughfootage6501]

I would love an Orca, I saw one when I was in NL a few years ago a beautiful peace of kit, worth every penny. One day I may have one. A great video John thanks for the review. Keep them coming & safe riding.

[@SKBKER]

These are stunning machines but being the slight pessimist that I am I just don't see it happening in the UK for a long time . Like the Aussies the majority love cars and anything different puts them off . It's a shame because these can reduce congestion and keep you fit at the same time but with the added benefit of more luggage space and more protection . Needs more advertising on television as well as social media . I was also surprised they weigh just over 20kg which is far lighter than I suspected.

[@velo-ads4206]

Seb K every year there are more in the UK so we are getting there, ever the eternal optimist.

[@SKBKER]

Pr - I get that . Also in Surrey there are so many hills it's ridiculous . When I eventually get one of these it will definitely have electric assist (I have three Ebikes already) .

[@mongofan1]

Just love the lines of the Orca. What a beautiful design. Alex

[@serum2685]

So cool to me Reminds me of my wheelchair with windows (5 wheeled bike trailer) Thanks

[@zawest2011MoBiLe]

The Orca 3.0 since it has the e-assist. Plus the way of getting in and out of the Orca is also perfect, since I have been through various surgeries within the left leg.

[@kokopelli314]

Sooooo.. what's with the fin?

[@serum7075]

It's called " JASON FUCKING VOORHEES THAT'S WHATS GOING ON" if the dishwasher or bug light detects glass by a co2 air cartridge hombrè Vatos Locos...¿¿♡♡♡

[@coniow]

There are times I would like to be the Jay Leno of the 'Bent world! I have seen the 'Dillo on a number of DHL U-tube videos and thought how much fun it must be to ride! (Maybe less so in the rain, delivering items every day, though LOL). Great to see one up close, Thank you. The Orca. WOW. I have seen quite a bit about them, but not with the clarity and detail that you have brought to this video. Really impressive, like the little sports car that you use at the weekend!, Not sure if I would want to use it like a day-to-day workhorse, but it is exactly as Andre said, you do need to look at exactly what you want to use the machine for; Being seduced by the sweet lines is all too easy. What I think is great with the Velomobile (and 'bent) community is how everybody has worked with each other, knows each other, and respects each other. None of that "My machine is better than their machine!" or slagging off the 'opposition,' but all wanting to promote a car alternative life, collaborating on ideas and suppliers and working together. Long may it continue, prosper, and propagate!

[@velo-ads4206]

Con Cahill thanks for the lovely comments, the Armadillo is a wonderful machine and I am trying to work out ways to purchase one. As you said the orca is stunning but not for me as I like my Velomobiles to be a little faster and more spacious for touring.

[@MrParacristo]

Another great video my friend. My wife loves the Orca. It is good to see that they have come out with a new model

[@bryanpwo3085]

Thank you for this very interesting video. I like the Armadillo very much and...... the Orca..... well that's the one I'm saving for. I've ridden one and I was sold immediately. Like you, I was amazed about the details and finish. Again thank you for my, soon to be not, dreammachine review.

[@jerold3777]

This video may have moved the Orca past the Go-One Evo3 & R as my all time favorite design.

[@1961kickboxer]

That orca looks amazing

[@kiwi_velonaut]

Great video, the orca was one of the velomobiles I considered buying, but they did'nt sell to overseas counties like New Zealand at that time; I wonder if that's different now.

[@peterwilliamson4296]

I imported a new Quest from Holland to Dunedin New Zealand 5 years ago. No issues at all. See "Planet Pride in the south pacific"

[@Paul_C]

Marnix, since Australia now has a trade agreement with the EU it shouldn't be a problem at all. Think that goes for New Zealand as well.

[@maddog7518]

lol the only green in this 20k price is what you will lose for that death trap lol buy a car or motor bike for a few k and have gas for life why waste money on these expensive plastic death traps

[@tonycrabtree3416]

250 extra watts. THAT'S A LOT!

[@Vtolproject]

Damn dude im like wtf Jay-Z ridding podbike ?!😂

[@brighton_dude]

I really envy you trying out these machines. I love the Orca it is such a well built machine. The transmission is a superb design imho. I see the Orca as being a very practical velomobile with such easy access and egress. I've never seen the Armadillo before. Looking at it I wonder if Velove have considered putting a camper style unit on the back? I imagine a streamlined pod big enough to sleep two people. For really long distance touring I think that might be really nice.

[@velo-ads4206]

brighton dude I absolutely love both bikes, I had ideas flying through. My head of touring on one. There is a video online of a guy touring and sleeping in the back of a canvas rig with plastic windows.

[@andrewallen9918]

Yep, I asked Johan about a camper style shell for the Armadillo 2.5 years ago; he said he’d like to but needed to focus on the chassis and cargo barebones version first; he then created the first soft shell; they intend to improve then sell a shell v2 as it were but no date on that at the moment. What I’ve learnt from alternating between riding a windcheetah, a QV and a Brox is that height and width really matters in terms of gaining speed. The windcheetah even with a long trailer attached is a lot faster downhill than a Brox. A camper that pops up and out would be great; keep the frontal area as low as possible when on the move, then expand when parked.

[@zawest2011MoBiLe]

brighton dude That would be a very unique experience for sure, if they did something like that I would be very interested for sure.

[@andrevrielink3955]

Brighton dude. I assume you live in Brighton, and you never seen an armadillo? There's one in Brighton for more than half a year. It should ride around in Brighton daily.

[@TrocaderoPenguin]

Thanks for doing these videos and keep going! It is a bit early but would you plan to go to the Spezi in Germany next year? You could set up a gofundme campaign maybe. And many of us would be happy to show you around, there.

[@velo-ads4206]

Romain Condat I was planning to go this year but the expense was a little too much for me. But definitely next year for sure, it would be cool to meet up.

[@jonabub]

I think you're right - you made the best choice of subjects for your youtube channel. Best content ever

[@JaleelJohanson62]

Interesting velo that Orca.... It does look exceedingly well made! The Armadillo cargo bike is an impressive machine as well!

[@zawest2011MoBiLe]

Is the Orca 3.0 able to be sent to the U.S.?

[@albertoflora5402]

mais um escrito ai sim muinto top em amigão

[@2012listo]

Sizzlin'! A bleepin' 24 degrees! That's like 75 for us here. Hot is like... 90-100, 110 every now and then. For you, that's like 40 degrees celcius.

[@ColinTipton]

Truly a thing of beauty.

[@stefaniekussmann4700]

ich liebe das armadillo! super geniales video. danke, mfg

[@Monkreadus]

Love the Orca, can't wait to be able to afford one, but at £8k it's going to take a lot of saving :(

[@Stompe06]

The Orca is sick!

[@hirkstein6259]

@velo-ads The wheels on the armadillo look A-MA-ZING!!! Would love to order some for a personal build project. Any idea where I can find them?

[@malteweinreich8755]

Hiya Mate, Really awesome video John well done Mate :-)

[@rojoracing53]

So if the motor puts out 250 watts max and I can cruise at 250 watts for several hours on my own can I then commute around at say 450-500 watts combined power?

[@stevezodiac491]

250 watts is the max allowed under European law, I think under only UK law it is 200 watts solo and 250 watts tandem but European law trumps ours now ( for the moment, until March 2019 probably) anything more powerful and a reg plate, tax, insurance and MOT would be required.

[@Paul_C]

Neal Archer No, all electric bikes have a max 250 watt all across Europe. That is, the motor is limited. where I come from electric bikes are speed limited, the cut off point is 25km/hr. When using it as a bicycle with assist, I can accelerate to 25km, but there is no limit (other than the max limit of that particular road). Speed Pedelecs, for now, are limited to 45km/hr. They are seen as mopeds under Dutch law. To put that in perspective were I ride my recumbent I would be limited to the legal road limits. Within the city limits a maximum of 50km/hr. Outside, either 60 to 80. The trouble starts with the legality of it all. It is easier to legally put a number on speed as opposed to a number on power. That is the sole reason for the 250watt number. I realise there is a vast difference between what is used in the Netherlands as opposed to the rest on the EU. Both in bicycle use and the way bikes are used. For now EU rules are used based on the experiences of my country. However there is no reason, even under EU rules, countries can and do differ. Oh, mopeds are taxed, do need insurance, need a helmet... Even in the Netherlands those Lycra devils use head protection, it makes sense, doesn't it? I use an electric bike, a vintage bike, a recumbent, and a road bike. For now not a velo, if and when my commute distance changes I'll think about a Quattro Velo. Do I need a car? Not really, if I need one I'll rent one. Concerning the UK, what I don't understand is the hostility toward cyclists. I would think the more bicycles there are the less congestion there is for motorist? Guess that is my Dutch way of thinking. I'm one of those idiots who takes the train to Amsterdam, rents a bike for 3.50, visits family. And all that for less than the price of ticket to park a car... Isn't that stupid?

[@stevezodiac491]

Paul C can't understand our hatred of cyclists either, it is basic jealousy half the time when they are stood in traffic and the bike isn't but then again, if you are too lazy to cycle, then it is the car driver's fault he is locked in traffic, he too has the option.

[@Paul_C]

Neal, one of the reasons of the post about pollution has to do with my understanding of the laws regarding bicycle use in the UK. As far as I know there is no tax called 'road tax', there was a tax disk which but that got replaced with number plates. In those times before the number plates bicycles had a disk and were able to use the roads. Pedestrians were exempt because walking was 'normal'? For me motorists behaviour in the UK is, eh, uncivilized. Sure, it isn't always smelling like roses on Dutch roads. We have accidents between all modalities. By far the biggest difference between our countries is the attitude. Every car driver in the Netherlands used to be a bicyclist. They know the rules of the road, the hidden signals, the nod, staring at the motorist before crossing and even swearing when someone makes a mistake. But never ever will a driver try to hurt bicyclist willingly. That, of all things, has to be paramount. You do no set out to hurt someone, period. Seems UK motorists have a different mindset. Maybe, just maybe, there is one rule regarding traffic the UK needs to implement. Has to do with priorities. Those less vulnerable are at fault, always. Make the whole thing workable: pedestrians, bicycles, motor vehicles. The heavier the vehicle... oh, isn't that the way the vehicle tax works?

[@stevezodiac491]

Paul C there is no payment for the right to be on the road. In Britain we have what is called vehicle excise duty, which is just another tax really and the money raised does not fix or build roads directly, it just goes into general taxation, that everything national is payed from. Local roads are paid from council tax, which local town councils raise from taxes on living in houses and from local businesses as well. Road tax was abolished about 1919, so there is no greater right to use the roads if paid for by a motor vehicle than a cycle. I wish that Netherlands law was used here where cyclists are assumed to be innocent and motor vehicles are assumed guilty unless proved otherwise - much more civilised and putting the onus on the more dangerous vehicle, making them much more risk aware.

[@ynotnilknarf39]

Helmets don't make a difference to safety, it makes it more dangerous for the faster riders beause helmets absorb very little of the forces in higher speed/higher load impacts (they split/crack and don't compress as they should for a start at higher than wlaking speeds). The speed of 25km/h for electric bikes is proving to be a problem in NL as this exceeds the natural speed of the majority of users (those over 60), this in itself has had a disastrous effect on cycling deaths where the age groups using/buying e-bikes have had a complete turnaround in deaths, increasing by 50% and bucking the downward trend to the groups who don't buy e-bikes anywhere near as much. This is known but ignored by the European Cycling Federation.

[@recyclespinning9839]

You need a lit up antenna for visibility...!!!! Not to mention I don't like the open floor can get crud kicking up at you

[@gowithbazza]

If they put as much technology into mobility scooters as they do power assist bicycles they'd be so much better

[@Seafariireland]

Super, I want a Velo!

[@OlafSoyk]

You give 9 out of 10 for the Orca. What would it need to get 10?

[@velo-ads4206]

It would have to be a little bit quicker :)

[@OlafSoyk]

@@velo-ads4206 Ah ... ok ... thanks.

[@mlykke]

@@velo-ads4206 It's a bike, not an electric car, so just pedal faster.

[@velo-ads4206]

@@mlykke I was

[@Paul_C]

John, when people are getting sick and tired of pollution in the intercity companies like Velove will become the norm. Inner London will become liveable again. It is just a matter of time, sooner rather than later when the price of petrol keeps rising.

[@stevezodiac491]

Paul C I've got an electric car for that but not in London.

[@Paul_C]

And your point is what exactly? To show you have an electric car? Using bikes puts less strain on the roads we currently have. Bikes have a smaller footprint; simply put, it bicycles per person take up less space.

[@stevezodiac491]

Paul C my point is that there is more than one way to reduce pollution. I ride a bike also and rode it 300 miles per week for 25 years to work and back and training in my greatest use period. Work was a 34 mile daily round trip. A velomobile though like a push bike has one great down fall. It's visibility in traffic. During my commuting on my bike, I suffered two broken collar bones, one broken elbow and a broken neck of femur( hip). So you see there is the compromise, safety. You are many multiples more likely to be hurt in a velomobile or push bike per mile although velomobiles look great fun: but if taking space up or resources up is your priority, why not use a normal push bike costing a tenth of your velomobile , donate the difference to the needy, set off the difference in time taken early say 2 minutes or just get fitter to make up the speed difference and buy a normal push bike. I also suggest that a normal push bike would be much faster than a velomobile in heavy traffic with It's ability to squeeze through smaller gaps. So let's come down to reality, not saving the world bullshit. A velomobile is a rich man's toy, is good to play with and gives hours of endless fun - be truthful, not knocking this aspiration in any way, because I would like to play with one also.

[@Paul_C]

@@stevezodiac491 So, I see you haven't got a clue why the armadillo was developed at all. It is built for Velove, a company delivering parcels initially. DHL was the launching customer of Velove and Flevobike developed the machine. Therfore it is a one person machine. You might be saving the planet with your car, though for now oil still is used to generate electricity. Thus you still pollute, as does the electric Armadillo. Most velomobiles are hpv's, a far cry from an electric car. I did not intend to react to your rant, to me a velomobile a fun way to enjoy my commute. I'm one of the lucky one who lives in a country with a well built network of bicycle paths. What I don't understand is why you find it necessary to comment in a derogatory fashion. I'm not out to criticise your use of an electric vehicle in any way, shape or form. Sorry for the late reaction, I just came across your rant.

[@ElmarBlok]

I love the velomobile but I can’t afford it

[@velo-ads4206]

Elmar Blok there is a big secondhand market if you know where to look.

[@ColinTipton]

Very VERY nice. I believe it may cost more than my Honda CRV! Gets better mileage though....

[@ColinTipton]

Just checked the base price 8950 euro so unless it has ALL the options my crv cost about 6000 more. I really expected the Orca to be about 13000 pounds or more.

[@adalessandrot]

Hermoso! Felicitaciones al diseñador!!

[@erikjohansen1873]

Orca so cool,flevobike not so much

[@tommieronen7424]

Good video!! What's the second hand website that you are mentioning here in 14:25?

[@velo-ads4206]

Ligfiets.net

[@global-awarenessnetwork5315]

Nice bike it looks like a shark. How fast is it.

[@EleanorPeterson]

And all for just £600! That's wonderful! I think - What? Oh. Sigh...

[@gore9573]

What a nice bike!! Where can I see and buy it?

[@steve0826]

A "I love me, watch me" video.

[@kyoatbites7865]

wear do i get one

[@velo-ads4206]

www.flevobike.nl/

[@envy4131]

Saw it at Barbican near me today

[@poe5418]

So it's a QV, then an Armadillo, then a DF is it? :-)

[@lukasketeljuric9909]

I think the armadillo could work for Camping.

[@velo-ads4206]

Two different people have used it for just that.

[@BleepingRelics]

chill beat

[@ianmorgan1001]

I would love to own a velo I live in Wales and cannot find a dealer enwere in Wales can you help

[@velo-ads4206]

I would recommend taking a trip to Dronten and testing everything both Velomobile.nl and inter-city bikes have to offer, it's the best way.

[@jptazzairbrushingjprice7250]

I like the Orca wonder how to get one over in the United States.

[@velo-ads4206]

Speak to Doug Davis at bicycle Evolution in Plano Texas. He may be able to help.

[@retromaticmike5388]

That Landfish is wonderful

[@Chobaca]

Music on point as per usual.

[@tomandalbert]

Brilliant!

[@malcwallace4119]

Godd video

[@selmaunsley6683]

I want one

[@damrunner1]

Awesome day!

[@PapaPro1]

Super sweet :)

[@melvinrabbers3848]

London is not a nice place to bike! Go to Holland! Dutch bike roads are the best of the world"

[@velo-ads4206]

Melvin Rabbers I've already been, check df and quattrovelo reviews video in the Netherlands 🇳🇱

[@stevezodiac491]

Melvin Rabbers there are some wonderful country roads in the UK to cycle upon but I would like Netherlands cycle laws and attitudes to cycling in the UK.

[@urbandiscount]

Not if you're riding a velomobile. Then the infrastructure is not so beneficial.