The First THREAD Motion Sensor!! The NEW Eve Motion & Light Sensor!

[@denisforbes]

Thank you for including temp in C, can’t tell you how annoying it is when peeps don’t do this!! Great videos as always.

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks Denis! 😀

[@denisforbes]

@@ShaneCreates oh and your other half is smoking hot!!

[@HellzDrifter]

It’s easy math conversion bubba. Takes less than 5 sec. Sucks for you if you can’t do it in your head 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@Dr_Cole]

Shane, this was a fantastic video. I love your head-to-head comparison vs. other motion sensors using different transmission protocols (e.g., Zigbee and BlueTooth). Your use of slow motion video playback made it crystal clear that Thread and Zigbee are nearly indistinguishable from one another regarding transmission speed. Given the mesh (or mesh-like) operability for Thread (giving us self healing performance when part of the Thread network has gone offline for one reason or another), opting for this Thread device over a ZigBee motion detector is an easy choice. Knowing that bother ZigBee devices also require a hub from their respective manufacturer whereas the this Eve Thread motion sensor does not, makes this a great purchase for those with a smaller SmartHome who do not yet have other devices from Aqara and/or Phillips. Finally, I am an Aqara user and their motion sensors work great. One plus on the Aqara sensor is the simplicity of adding the sensor virtually anywhere with their reusable sticky pad. What are the mounting options for the Eve sensor? As always, thanks for the great video Shane.

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for the comment and kind words Dr. Cole. Mounting options out of the box include sitting the sensor on a surface or wall mounting with a nail or screw using the hole on the back. No 3m sticky pads included but you could easily use some command strips if that is your preferred method.

[@Dr_Cole]

@@ShaneCreates I appreciate the quick feedback on the mounting option, Shane.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

This is great. Finally! Definitely gonna pick up a few of these.

[@LimaGolf284th]

Thanks Shane. Ordered one yesterday, from the Apple Store. Looking forward to incorporating it, into our smart home.

[@arkhamh757]

Thanks for the video. I just bought one to use outside to monitor my driveway and cars.

[@3in1m23]

New to this arena of techy stuff. Building a new house and def want Homekit - so now Following.

[@tlalli-home-and-garden]

So exciting! I was just looking at the Philips hue one as it was the only one available for outdoors but didn’t want to get another hub. Now I can just get this one & add it to my thread collection 😀

[@ShaneCreates]

Yes! Sounds like the perfect solution for you!

[@romashovvs]

Thanks Shane. Ordered mine already, it will arrive on Tuesday)

[@mikebedford4362]

Another great video, thanks Shane. I have a dog, is there a way to manage sensitivity for placement outside and exclude my dog from detection?

[@eviltwin9686]

I just picked one of these up. I'm looking for your video on how too set the sensor up for no motion. If there is no motion for a certain amount of time I would receive a notification. I'm sure I watched a video of yours regarding this. Thanks

[@ScotTheGr8]

Got one of these and so far working great. Sets up so so easy with thread. Anyone have any thoughts on what to do with the light sensor and how to use it?

[@wrlSivan16]

What about a test with the new eve on just bluetooth compared to the old one? Was there any difference?

[@ItzWaltz]

Great detailed video👍🏼. Am I able to set it up so that when it detects motion my lights can come on?

[@seatek]

Thanks so much for that performance comparison!

[@felipeninja3235]

Installed it myself without any issues. The wifi signal is great even kzbin.infoUgkxE_D_sddGAdiVUKp7PkkmyxO7bRtgqmk5 when the router is located far away. I really enjoy the night vision feature that allows me to see clearly any activity near our house (mostly cars and wild animals). The motion detection is helpful to me as well to monitor what happens on our front.

[@Rockovissi]

I’ve had nothing but issues with this.

[@Rockovissi]

I just bought this and doesn’t connect. I’ve factory reset it over twenty times. Anyone else having this problem with HomePod mini? I’m blown away how easily this connected for you.

[@hperacer]

Im having the same problem. If I add more than one Eve Motion to my HomeKit the sensors connection go kaput(fail read/write operation). It’s like if they crash each other. Their customer support is pretty bad. It appears that they have only one employee named Volker which always gives recycled vague responses.😒

[@uniqueflh2941]

Another good video Shane. Thanks! Kinda wondering if the Motion Detection picks up on reflections.

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for watching Brad! Hmm... I'm not sure about that, haven't tried it. I guess it may depend on how close and how vivid the reflections. The good good thing is that you have sensitivity adjustments with this one, so maybe that can help for whatever you are trying to accomplish.

[@tharais]

@@ShaneCreates Sensitivity adjustments are good. But the ability to screen - as in people vs animals - is an important feature for outdoor use. Especially if you're yard is the waystation for a colony of your neighbor's cats as mine has become since I no longer have a dog out there to chase them off. 😒

[@estusflask982]

Awesome. Is it better than the Philips Hue indoor motion sensor? That one has motion, light level, and temperature.

[@ShaneCreates]

Better in what way? I didn’t test it against that one. I’m sure performance will be about the same as the Phillips hue outdoor motion sensor shown in this video.

[@swiftaudi]

I’m not sure of the price of the eve but if you use Lutron switches the Lutron sensor is another great option and always I only have issues with Lutron when I need an update. Everything needs thread, all my thread devices fix themselves when the internet goes out or resets. Everything else needs unplugged. Except my august locks, somehow they have been flawless, knock on wood. Also eve needs to add thread or update their power strips to use thread. Whenever I’m having issues I need to unplug them and there all in tight spots.

[@victorvinegar1184]

Was there an update on the battery life for this one?

[@vickosis]

All right so it works with THREAD but does it also work with Zigbee for now while I mainly have everything Zigbee based?

[@simongentry]

I was trying find out if after the sensor detects movement - and no longer detects movement - can turn off the light?

[@DavidSanchez-lk9cx]

First comment after discovering your channel yesterday and binging about 20 of your videos. You always deliver! I'm curious what you expect the battery life to be on the Thread Motion Sensor?

[@ShaneCreates]

Hey David, thanks so much for the kind words and for watching. This is a good question. Of course, only time will truly tell, as this is the first thread based motion sensor and I don't recall Eve stating any "estimated battery life" numbers. I would hope to get a least a year. I don't expect the batteries to last as long as some of the zigbee sensors like the Aqara motion sensors. Those things last a really long time.

[@aridge14]

Awesome video per usual Shane. I love my Hue Outdoor sensors because of their great wireless range. Any idea what the thread wireless range performance is of these, advertised and/or real world?

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for watching! Both the performance and range of Thread is supposed to be about the same as Zigbee. Of course, this will depend on your Thread or Zigbee mesh networks and what devices you have in them. Just like Zigbee, Thread networks can be extended with certain Thread products, as briefly mentioned in the video.

[@lipinski]

Any update on battery life after 6 months of use? Does it give you a low battery warning?

[@donpowers6033]

As always another great video Shane!! Thanks!!

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for watching Don!

[@peteroffpist1621]

So when motion is detected can you set a alarm on you phone and computer ?

[@mikas071]

Great review ! Do you have access to the light sensor within the home app or is it only accessible through Eve’s app ? Thanks

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks! Yes you can access it in the home app as well.

[@generalsofgod101]

Is there a way I can stop my EVE MOTION sensor from detecting motion when another smart home device is triggered apart from Using time of day. OR if there’s any form of shortcuts I can use to trigger that. I need help

[@jaredmorse9957]

Hi Shane thanks for the review! Any info on the cool-down/blackout period after Motion has been detected? Thanks. Looking forward to your next video 🙏🏻

[@ShaneCreates]

Hey Jared, thanks for watching! At 5:05 in the Settings & Features chapter I covered the "Duration" setting that allows you to specify from 2 seconds up to 15 hours. Hope that helps!

[@jaredmorse9957]

Don’t I feel silly! I must have accidentally skipped ahead and missed half the video! It’s awesome that you have so much adjustment. Thanks again 👍🏻

[@ShaneCreates]

@@jaredmorse9957 haha no worries! 😃

[@inelonwetrust9169]

Great review Shane. Have you done any videos related to outdoor use of motion sensors? If not be a good one to consider if possible. Thanks 🙏🏼

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks for the suggestion!

[@inelonwetrust9169]

Any information on how intelligent these are for determining movement of a person vs brushes? One frustrating thing with my cameras is they pick up movement of tree limbs blowing in the wind. I’d love an out door motion sensor that alerts from people if that exists. Any suggestions? Thanks

[@joses6068]

Good thank you 🙏🏼

[@GuyStrumtza]

Hi, Shane thanks for the review 🤩 and I like your shirt so I think you need to start selling merchandise for the fans 😁

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks! I’ve got a few shirts available (link in description) including the one I’m wearing. 😊

[@GuyStrumtza]

@@ShaneCreates no way 😮 I don't know that 🤩 I run 🏃‍♂️🏃‍♂️ to check this 😁

[@ShaneCreates]

@@GuyStrumtza Thanks!

[@user-dbjekenbfjr526]

I can't see any security mechanisms against theft for outdoor installation. Any ideas?

[@carbongrip2108]

I mean these sensors are quite small, with smart placement around ankle height, 99% of people aren't even going to notice them. People are not that observant, I watch them walk and drive over things all the time that could be avoided if they were to pay attention.

[@ShaneCreates]

Good point. No there isn't anything included to keep someone from stealing one. If that is a concern, you'd have to get creative to find a way to keep it from being stolen. Maybe using some 3m tape and/or silicone to add some extra security? Or a 3d Printed case that can be screwed into place.

[@user-dbjekenbfjr526]

@@ShaneCreates I currently use the Philips Hue motion outdoor sensor and this one is fixed with a screw to the wall mount plate. You can break this combination, but then the sensor plastic case gets broken. With the Eve sensor there is nothing. You can just take it. But the technical details of the Eve motion sensor are really excellent. Ok, I‘m waiting and/or looking for an adequate solution. Thanks again for your great video 🙏🏻

[@scottboland59]

Question, I’m wanting to use this sensor in our mailbox to trigger an alert when the mail arrives. Our box is about 100 feet from our HomePod. You think that might work?

[@ShaneCreates]

I don't know... that's a pretty big stretch. I doubt it to be honest without another thread router device in between to extend the range.

[@Jhovan33]

Can you use the light level reading as a condition for another automation of a different motion sensor in your house? it would be a great way to determine daylight/night.

[@ShaneCreates]

Yes you can using a 3rd party HomeKit app, like the Eve app.

[@Jhovan33]

@@ShaneCreates Thanks, and suggestion for a video showing how to do that particular automation.

[@ShaneCreates]

@@Jhovan33 In this video I discuss using multiple conditions for automations using 3rd party homekit apps: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f2SrhIt6o7dlhrs

[@n173021x]

Got a recommendation for a light bulb to pair with this sensor? Would be my 1st “ smart light” . Using in a small room with a standard ceiling fixture.

[@ShaneCreates]

For ceiling fixtures I almost always use smart switches instead of bulbs, that way I can still use the light switch. But if you want a smart bulb, I use Phillips hue and Nanoleaf mostly (although I don't use many smart bulbs since I use smart switches everywhere).

[@GaryCantrell]

Hey Shane love the videos! I’m currently building out a HomeKit setup in my new home and I’m wondering if there is a camera that I can add to my HomeKit preferably secure video that 2 android users in my house could also view say on the camera manufacturers app if that’s possible. Do you have a video of one you could point me to? Thanks!

[@ShaneCreates]

Thanks Gary! Hmm… I’d probably check out Aqara or Eufy cameras. Many support HomeKit secure video (not all Eufy cams do tho) and can probably be accessed via manufacturer’s app on android.

[@michaelthompson657]

So would you get this personally or wait for the Aqara Thread motion sensor?

[@ShaneCreates]

I don’t see why you’d need to wait. I like Aqara also, but if you want a thread motion sensor now, this is a great option that’s available now.

[@michaelthompson657]

@@ShaneCreates yeah thanks! I’m not really in a hurry I just thought compare the 2? Plus Aqara will probably be cheaper 🤔

[@ShaneCreates]

@@michaelthompson657 yea it will be very interesting to see how Aqara prices their thread products once they become available.

[@michaelthompson657]

@@ShaneCreates yeah that’s what I’m intrigued to know!

[@jonathanwu7805]

Is the range (and sensitivity at long range) better than the aqara P1 based on your experience? I feel like my aqara P1 is only accurate at close range

[@StefRenaud]

Hi Shane, can it be mount in a corner? Does it come with a corner kit?

[@ShaneCreates]

Good question. No, it does not come with a corner mount.

[@tasosathanasiou2746]

Nice video Shane. But if you have security system which is based on Aqara products how can you integrate a thread eve motion sensor to that?

[@ShaneCreates]

Unfortunately you cannot use any other brands' sensors to trigger the Aqara security system, because that configuration must be done in the manufacturer's app. That's pretty much how all security systems work in homekit currently. For example: only Aqara sensors can be configured to sound the Aqara alarms... only Abode sensors can be configured to sound the Abode alarm, etc.

[@tasosathanasiou2746]

@@ShaneCreates Thank you for the replay!

[@garethds]

In the eve app I can see child devices with transport mode thread, but I can’t see the router they are connected to. Also my Apple TV 4K gen 2 isn’t listed as a router in the eve home app. Is there a way to refresh the thread network view in the eve app?

[@ShaneCreates]

You need to have an Eve Energy smart plug in order to see some of the extra stuff on your Thread network like your Apple routers.

[@scotthancock6764]

Shane, it has been 3 months. How are the batteries holding up?

[@fbr4801]

Great sensor! Hope the Eve sensor will be compatible with the Aqara M2 hub as well if Aqara updates the hub with Matter, or Google Nest Hub 2. Otherwise i'm going to have to buy an home pod mini for my parents house to connect this sensor.

[@louis417asdo]

Is thread need ipv6?

[@techinrl9869]

Can the setting used to determine how long the sensor detects motion be used to automatically turn off lights? I’ve tried using Philips Hue motion sensor but lights would turn off within seconds when I was looking for a way to turn them off after 15 minutes. I could do it within the Philips app, but I couldn’t find a way to do it with Home app. I prefer to have hub-less IoT devices so I’d be interested in getting one of these new Eve sensors to put in various hallways where the lights tend to never get turned off.

[@ShaneCreates]

If using motion to turn the light on, you can use "turn off after 15 minutes" when setting up the automation. Otherwise, yes, you can have an automation to run when the sensor "stops detecting motion." And the duration setting determines how long that is after motion has ceased.

[@techinrl9869]

@@ShaneCreates Thanks! I was trying to figure out the automation after it stops detecting motion, not when it does detect motion. I see the timer now. Thank you!

[@nev922]

As a older Eve motion sensor, how do you update firmware? I don’t recall ever seeing it.

[@ShaneCreates]

Updates would be available in the Eve app.

[@zc7396]

Got 2 of them and they are great.

[@ShaneCreates]

Glad to hear it!

[@BlazerRox]

Seems to be sold out everywhere. None at Amazon, Apple ETA is not until September, B&H says not in stock as well.

[@ShaneCreates]

Yea they seemed to go quick. Apple was the last to have some in stock. Eve is pretty good about this, so hopefully they'll have more available soon.

[@jmurray0220]

Hi Shane. It has been 6 months since the video, can you provide us an update on the battery life of the motion sensor?

[@cibbasd]

Yeah, and also if it can report light/lux separately

[@TheNameOfJesus]

I've been using these for weeks and they have been good. But this week my Internet provider replaced my network modem/wifi device, and this has caused problems. Firstly, in order to reset the Eve Motion (Thread version) you need a special tool that I don't have at home. And then after I reset it, and re-added it to the Home app, there were duplicate copies of my sensors in each room. And then, the automatons had to be deleted and recreated. And even after all this, the new automations are not working, and I'm still trying to figure out why. I'm sure I'll figure it all out eventually, but why should any product be this complex to reload? There's no mention in the manual of the reset switch, there's no label on the reset switch, and there's no tool in the box to use to press the reset switch. The product designers probably never considered an average person having to fix problems with this device.

[@BigidyBooh]

Are these still the best motion sensor? Any others?

[@ShaneCreates]

Still the only thread enabled motion sensor for homekit on the market.

[@abbofun9022]

Nice but am really waiting for smoke detectors with thread. The olde Eve Smoke been unavailable now for two years, so it’s about time. 😀

[@utooboobnoob]

What a weird response. “I know this is a video about a motion sensor, but I’m going to kinda dismiss it because it’s not about a product that does not yet exist.”

[@ashpole20]

Thanks Shane. One comment on the sensor’s assembly: I’d have liked to see the HomeKit QR code sticker put on the sensor’s main body and not the removable battery compartment cover.

[@tharais]

Yep. Same for all products that have a HomeKit QR code. It's a PIA when it's on the back or worse, behind some cover (my hardwired smart swithces). I've kept the product info sheets that come with all my home automation devices but that hasn't worked so well. They are far away when I need them or, I have several of the same product and forget which one went where. I've created a spreadsheet now that has all the info on all of my HA devices. Very similar to a password spreadsheet. But that means I have to put the HomeKit code in manually and that I have to keep it up to date whenever I change something.

[@ShaneCreates]

@@tharais gotta get the Home Pass app! It’s great for storing HK codes and can even pull them up on the Apple Watch to scan when you are adding your devices!

[@ashpole20]

@@tharais Shane beat me to it, HomePass is excellent for HomeKit codes, plus all of Aaron Pearce’s Home**** apps. Aaron is working on HomePass 2 which is going to be even more useful.

[@brokosok]

Is there anybody that sells just a siren or an alarm that would work with an eve motion sensor. or do you know of anybody that sells a sensor an alarm together that’s the only thing I want or need not a lot of other peripheral‘s

[@ShaneCreates]

You could buy just a simple, dumb siren/alarm and plug it into a homekit smart plug. Automate that on/off with a motion sensor.

[@riskmaster976]

Should’ve added Onvis motion sensor to the comparison/review

[@ShaneCreates]

That’s a Bluetooth motion sensor. I typically don’t recommend Bluetooth for motion sensors.

[@riskmaster976]

Ahhh ok ok. Make sense!

[@jayyovs]

Am I the only one who finds this sensor tends to stop working? Occasionally it will be “unreachable,” despite being in the same place.

[@robertcampbell1540]

You almost sold me until you said it was battery powered_ I'm looking for something that can be installed using house voltage. Therefore it is always powered.

[@veezoom2977]

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[@multimagical3137]

I'm going to change all my aqara sensors Pq 1 with this, because the light sensor aqara is a fake sensor, it works only during a motion detection. this is simply ridiculous. the only temporary ( I hope ) issue is that EVE works only via bluetooth and not via Thread after a couple of weeks

[@dnoland77]

Shane, not a knock on you, it's another good video. I just don't understand the industry's obsession with thread and matter. We already have a universal standard with zigby. As you showed both thread and zigbee have the same speed. The echo and smartthings hub already have a zigbee radio in them. Apple and google could just add one to their devices. Sadly, I think that most people will just continue to purchase wifi devices since that is where the market is currently focused. After experiencing Sylvania and smart dry terminating their cloud support I'm done with wifi devices and only buying devices that work locally like zigby, zwave or thread.

[@progenitor_amborella]

Big shame it doesn’t have a recharge port under the battery cover.

[@AlmightyEye]

That's because it's highly recommended NOT to use rechargeable batteries in devices like this.

[@chrisrobinson3771]

I wish Eve would put some work in their app, it’s a mess

[@chiefcw44]

Mine quit after 2 months. It was used inside a bedroom only. Eve is replacing it without any issue but I am a little disappointed on the reliability of this overpriced motion sensor.

[@GuidoWilden]

Anything that needs batteries is not progress.

[@Bigglare]

#overpriced Zigbee!

[@ShaneCreates]

But it’s cheaper than the outdoor Phillips hue equivalent. And doesn’t require a bridge.

[@Bigglare]

@@ShaneCreates ah, you need a Homepod or apple TV.

[@ShaneCreates]

@@Bigglare Not the same as ALSO needing a hub from each manufacturer imo.

[@Bigglare]

@@ShaneCreates Being required by homekit and requiring a proprietary hub are different too. You can pair any brand bulb to a hue or ikea border routers. They all work find with Alexa, and Google. Apple Homekit won't talk to any third party device on a homekit hub. Hopefully Matter will tear down that wall. Thread and Zigbee alike both require a device to go from the 802.15.4 radio in the gadget to the Internet to be accessible to Apple, Amazon or any other controlling app or ecosystem. Even if it uses Bluetooth, it needs your phone.