The Flash FLOPPED And It's YOUR fault

[@disparutoo]

The Flash flopped a long time ago at the cinema, yet the director Andrés Muschietti thinks the problem is that the movie didn't appeal to literally everybody. While it's true in this instance, is it even possible to make movies for everybody? Movie budgets have become so bloated that they might think this is a requirement, but isn't the actual solution to reduce the budgets so that they're profitable with the target market? Why is it controversial to even talk about target markets in the first place? And can Hollywood even be profitable until they accept that different shows should be made for different markets? Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)

[@anubusx]

I agree studios need to get thier budgets under control.

[@goBadgers1995right]

Maybe start watching movies for adults. How old are you?

[@sba8710]

There are movies that everyone likes - Lord of the Rings

[@anubusx]

@@sba8710 Not everyone does.

[@Toothless_Cowboy]

Well one reason I did not even bother watching the new flash shows is that was not the barry allen I grew up seeing in the comics. Blonde adult working in the crime lab. Honestly the 1990 tv series did it better then the newest one. Now if you think of it as a alternate universe it's not a problem the character age etc. but then the writing is what makes or breaks it and yeah even though I like the flash I could not watch that show.

[@tremere3337]

"You caused The Flash to bomb!" And here I thought Hollywood didn't like me. Such a nice compliment.

[@feldweible]

Winning!

[@mizorenight3851]

"We caused the Flash to bomb"

[@DrWackySanchez]

"This movie isn't for you, don't see it" "It's your fault this movie failed, why didn't you go see it?"

[@sayLeotardbutsayitChinese]

Therefore, I am more powerful than the Flash. I'm fuckin Superman.

[@georgejones3526]

Yeah, I thought the audience didn’t matter, the message and vision of the director was more important.

[@SammEater]

The fact they expected people to show up for a movie with TWO Ezra Millers was kinda hilarious, one is already annoying enough...

[@bola5671]

They should try 3 Ezra Millers next time. Maybe that's the number. If that falls they'll get JJ Abrams to make a million Millers

[@LordofSadFac]

And dangerous

[@Caleblovingking1]

​@@bola5671 Dude are you crazy, dont give them ideas. They're stupid enough to do it😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@Treklosopher]

Honestly, it wasn't bad. I totally understand why people don't like him, but the movie actually wasn't terrible.

[@jschap712]

Well, it'd be the only situation in which people could correctly refer to Ezra as "they".

[@elitronprime7322]

I'm sorry, if your main star being a complete nutjob criminal is one of the main reasons why the film flopped (alongside the DCEU being dead ahead of release) and then they blame the customer, then maybe you need to see the film again

[@brandonadams5270]

They think we like Ezra 😂😂

[@alarrim29574]

Crazy thing is it kinda happened with 2 dceu films which is crazy pick rate. I mean flash had Ezra, and aquaman 2 had amber heard

[@minirth.maggie]

​@@brandonadams5270they are so wrong! 😂

[@SparrowAaron]

Even if he hadn’t been a gender-confused cult leader lunatic… he still was never a bankable lead.

[@maxheadroom4659]

it flopped because of the hollywood butt boy Ezra miller.

[@dirkdisco2316]

It was my fault. Because the Flash is my favorite Superhero and I hated that actor and that costume.

[@glovesofkosai5639]

You could feel bad. Because you didn't give it a chance, little rainbow kids hole punched themselves because they couldn't see themselves on screen.

[@skyevens8756]

​@glovesofkosai5639 but if it's about affirmation why can't I tell them they can fly and send them to the city's tallest building? That's OK right.

[@radiopal0911]

LOL, thank you dirkdisco2316... here I thought it was my fault because I to loved FLASH as a kid, but hated the look of the movie and that its script was HORRIBLE. Thank you for taking the blame. :) LOL

[@rayanderson5797]

Thank you for your service

[@AnarchistPoop]

SHAME ON YOU. YOU FLOPPED THIS STUPID FLASH MOVIE

[@nunomesquita]

How's it my fault? I didn't even watch the movie!

[@khatdubell]

"you're not the flash, we are" 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[@brockdavid]

(Cringey music build up and singing start in, low at first…) Yeeeeaaaah, I’m a Wahman….!

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

I never understood that...NEVER.

[@khatdubell]

@ some writer probably thought it was the superhero equivalent of "you're not pregnant, WE'RE pregnant. " gag me with a spoon.

[@andrewthorsten3809]

cool!. I didn't know i was the flash!

[@Sky-xd2nu]

The power of maaaaaaany! 😅😅

[@ChristLucifer999]

Ezra Miller’s The Flash tried to outrun its bad press, but it seems the only multiverse it traveled to was the box office flop dimension.

[@alberto5770]

He is not a thing, is. Aman, despicable, but a man, hence he was trying to outrun HIS bad press, and the cops and the prosecution and of course the consequences

[@carried9130]

​​@@alberto5770 he said Ezra Miller's The Flash, the title of the movie. ''It'' was used correctly in the comment as ''it'' is the movie, not the actor.

[@glitchhoffe1293]

Success was chasing him😔… but he was too fast this time.

[@xxraverxxonxtacy]

Some forget Ezra broke into a house for some Booze.

[@erikhermansen3431]

Who hasnt? Oh, only most humans?

[@theboy1625]

@@erikhermansen3431you defending Ezra?

[@montgomeryfitzpatrick473]

He groomed and kidnapped a 15 year old autistic girl but wasn't charged cause native american parents of girl were fine with getting a payoff, makes sense they come from people that literally did children sacrifice a couple hundred years ago

[@jschap712]

Probably because they're more concerned about his child grooming and gun hoarding

[@ScottFunk-us6ro]

Ezra also likes to beat on women, and groom little girls, and try to create a cult of personality.

[@annatardlordofderps9181]

The media is giving me entirely too much credit... but I'll take it. Appreciate my work and deeds!

[@theghostofmaximumvolume3414]

We did it, boys. The audience wins.

[@SadAlone-l7k]

You should start charging a fee.

[@warrenpeace8304]

We appreciate you good sir 🫡

[@mandylorian89]

"Unless you're Californian". I laughed at that, despite the fact that I am a Californian. BUT only by birth! And nobody could pay me to move back! Just like nobody could even pay me to go see a movie with Ezra Miller in it. I just wouldn't subject myself to that sort of torture even if I was getting paid.

[@StarStuff.]

Depends on how much they pay... I've been through worse for free, this would be a piece of cake for the right price if I only have to watch it. Liking it on the other hand... yeah, that's not going to happen for all the money in the world.

[@UncensoredScion]

Yeah it didn't appeal to the 4 quadrants the people who don't like crazy people the people who don't like bad plotlines the people who don't like shameless cameos and the people who don't like the DCEU and it's associated terrible movies. Not appealing to those people sure does screw things up... and Jimmy Gunny is looking like he's repeating the same mistakes with his venture

[@Caleblovingking1]

Sad part is i grew up on DC COMICS and just recently got introduced to Marvel with Endgame (hillarious i got introduced to it the last time it mattered). And it is sad to see the path it is going now

[@Caleblovingking1]

Kinda like Nickelodeon which i also grew up on (seriously i watched nothing but every witch way, Nicky ricky dicky and dawn, haunted Hathaways, 100 things etc) So it is terrible to see it has fully embraced the disney and Netflix woke mindset. Bit i guess it was time for new entertainment wasnt it.

[@ii-mp1sp]

It was immediately clear that nothing would come of James Gunn's Napoleonic plots when he announced that he was leaving his Suicide Squad in the canon(which was also crap).

[@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK]

Hey Nothing wrong with crazy people It's kiddy fiddling abusive violent crazy people we don't like Biiiiig difference

[@xManzi]

It's so nice to see that PDF-file circle is blaming people for not wanting to have anything to do with them, and they are saying it out loud like it's a normal thing to support them 😂😂

[@sheerbeauty]

They are probably wondering why, if it worked in the past, is it somehow not working anymore.

[@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK]

Nothing ever changed Now they are just bear faced with it and hire kiddy fiddlers, then get mad when we don't wanna support a kiddy fiddling mentally ill whacko amazing and sensational that they are this stupid ahahahahahhaha

[@BrutalCarnage]

These woke people have no problem stereotypimg straight white men with pdf crime bringing up stats from interpol etc but as soon as we call them pdfs, they disagree! They're logic is most pdfs are white men, if that's true, then they are most likely pdfs too!!!!

[@ministryoflies1344]

Remember everyone - James Gunn loved this movie. Superman may be doomed.

[@wheeeeeha]

Superman *IS* doomed. Relax, it's okay. Stop giving your money to people that hate you.

[@bashamd96]

I think it's doomed even if what I say is true, but to be fair, 99% chance you could put anyone in that position, and they'd say the same thing. Gunn needed a win so that his DCU has any hype cause it's as close to DOA as possible without already being dead

[@Nathan.007]

sucks that james gunn is the director. After all his pdf file tweets have really put me off anything he is connected to.

[@satnav1980]

Superman looks absolutely wank.

[@chadmyles-theclevelandcyclist]

Oh, there are plenty of signs of that from the trailer.

[@TestAcct46]

With Ezra's history I swore I wasn't going to watch even if The Flash was the greatest achievement in human history. What a non-surprise that my resolve would not be tested.

[@HammerHeart3229]

*Someone in Hollywood blames the fans for a movie flopping* The audience: How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?!

[@trevorsmith9628]

If 'The Flash' flopping is my fault..... then _I_ take responsibility.

[@sodalakevine]

Awesome comment 🤣🤣

[@darthlaurel]

No....."*I* take responsibility....."

[@SammEater]

"I take responsibility"

[@rorrim0]

Nah fam, gimme the glory.

[@aronthedev3074]

*I* broke the dam! Oh wait... *I* take responsibility!

[@justinrodriguez5957]

"Before Marvel Rivals I didn't know who Jeff the Shark was, and now I hate him with the passion of a thousand suns." 🤣🤣🤣

[@erichtomanek4739]

Director: The Flash flopped and it's your fault. Us: You're welcome.

[@harbl99]

Goofy: "I'll hyukking do it again."

[@MjollTheLioness-o4y]

Given Miller's scandals, this one should've stayed on the shelf. We're talking about a guy accused of messing with minors and beating up women. Who on earth thought this was a good idea?

[@jcorbett9620]

"Messing with minors and beating up women"? Surely, that's just a normal day in Hollywierd.

[@dorn0531]

It’s a requirement for promotion

[@christophertaylor9100]

Given the script they could have easily swapped him out for another actor. Even use him as the bad guy flash version. But no, they doubled down LOL

[@ii-mp1sp]

The movie failed not because people don't like Flash, but because: - Ezra Miller compromised himself in the eyes of society; - Warners kicked out all the unsullied actors like Cavill and canceled their projects; - The movie was remade a bunch of times and it resembled a stupid hodgepodge; - The movie was about something everyone had seen in the TV series and animation; - A reboot was announced, which made the movie unnecessary; - Warner Bros. and DC Studios are idiots who don't know what they want.

[@sparrow420500]

Disparu continues to be my favorite member of the cultural Justice League!! He tells it 110% like it is, and is DAMN entering doing it!!

[@Bad_Llama]

James Gunn being either a liar or an tasteless bozo just makes us distrust him and the reboot of the DC film universe. More and more, I'm skeptical that he's going to make something great.

[@MamaMOB]

I don't trust none of these people. I don't care if they made the best shit in the past I don't care if they made my favorite movie. These people suck now. Hollywood has legitimately destroyed their talent. They honestly believe all of this bad stuff is good. So no I don't trust James Gunn anymore than I trust Kevin Feige.

[@critica77y77]

To be fair, he might have been told to say it was good by the higher-ups.

[@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK]

I agree but us??? You only speak for yourself big mane, don't speak for.others Only gonna cause yourself issues trying to talk for others, although you are right just a PSA

[@VincenzoPentangeli]

You know what's nice? I don't have to waste money to find out I'll hate a movie. I go to my content creators and they review it and tell me if it's woke or bad (mostly the same thing), if so, I don't waste my money.

[@jtowensbyiii6018]

Imagine having to look at what others opinions are to then only cry like a bitch and not form your own opinion 😂

[@abehambino]

Hollywood: YOU caused our movie to flop! Us: flatterers!

[@crakkbone]

The Guy assaults women, he’s not a hero he’s a psycho

[@darthkek1953]

Literally his only redeeming feature.

[@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK]

That is nothing mane what?!?!?! He assaults CHILDREN, who cares about the women of even men when he's harming and diddling kids?!????

[@UltraViolettaPlays]

As a woman, I like the Flash, good story telling, Michael Keaton as Batman and LotR. Also as a woman, I dislike Ezra Miller, the girl bossing of characters and anything that insults Tolkien's legacy. Hate Racheal Zegler. You couldn't pay me to watch her movies. Henry Cavill.... I love that man!

[@MamaMOB]

This. We are the audience. Modern or otherwise. If they're looking for a different audience they're going to have to look off planet.

[@Cerbyo]

What does being a woman have to do with sitting on a couch watching a screen? Were u on ur period or preggers or eating whipped cream? No? Then what do I care where u store ur balls.

[@emdo.unlimited555]

The Flash destroyed my memories of Michael Keaton's Batman. Eff that. All that being said, I hope you're having a wonderful day and take care.

[@GabrielGoods]

EZRA CANT RUN.. HE LOOKS RIDICULOUS RUNNING like he’s got palsy.. and that’s his main thing, RUNNING.. and he looks RIDICULOUS.. let alone Ezra is an abusive, crazy nut bag with serious mental issues.. I don’t understand how he got the role..

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

I agree.

[@cmsracing]

Some people in Hollywood think they have enough power to influence the way people think and act.

[@silverscorpio24]

I kind agree with that guy; Ezra Miller doesn't appeal to any of the four quadrants.

[@jordanarellano8058]

When you know what flash point paradox is. This is movie is a slap in the face

[@Samurai-Inferno]

They didn't use any of the good material from that movie in the live action. It's still one of my favorite animated DC movies.

[@changvasejarik62]

@@Samurai-InfernoIt and Gods & Monsters felt like the end of an era. An era of direct to dvd superhero movies but still an era. It just didn’t feel as high quality since then.

[@ImminDragon]

"Which includes literally everybody." Wong! The four quadrants thing happens to exclude men and women who are *exactly* 25. The movie could have been an incredible success with 25-year-olds, and we'd never know, based on that grouping system! That would be a very niche target audience, though, and I doubt they could keep a film in the black, but they do exist.

[@cplusp1977]

When RZ said she should be paid for every minute she was wearing a dress. I don't think she realised that the only times in her future she could get paid for being on camera, the dress comes off in the first few minutes

[@e69alpha]

That was like 4 years ago. Let it go erza

[@oatlaskennedy1308]

Ezra has not said anything and no one is blaming anyone.

[@e69alpha]

@@oatlaskennedy1308 my comment etiquette goes comment in response to title watch the comment again. see you when i watch it with my next comment

[@Coofy4]

I will gladly take on the responsibility of me being at fault for every Hollywood flops as long as they make shit like this

[@erikhermansen3431]

I'm doing my part!

[@fullmetalmex0172]

@7:04 LMAO brilliant. Same brother! Never knew who Jeff the Shark was until he ate my avatar... the bastard.

[@KristySki]

The "4 quadrants" comment confused me too because I thought the same thing "Isnt that literal everybody???" I'm so tired of Hollywood blaming women for superhero movies doing poorly. I grew up watching the Adam West Batman show reruns with my dad. Grew up watching the Batman movies, Spider-Man movies, X-Men movies, Daredevil, Elektra, Blade, Ninja Turtles movies and the cartoon, etc etc etc I throughly enjoy superhero films. The biggest issue they're having is theyre trying to make these movies now appeal to women. We women who are already fans of these movies don't want that...we just want good movies. Stop blaming us for when your movies don't do well. Also if James Gunn approves I can almost guarantee it's shit.

[@luxgh]

I'm a girlie girl and my favorite superhero from DC is batman, I watched every cartoon I could of him growing up and I'm not about to waste my hard earned money to watch them destroy my favorite character and turn him into a braindead version of himself. Also wanting women to watch your movie where the main star has a criminal record involving minors and women isn't a smart move.

[@GabrielGoods]

EZRA MILLER RUNS LIKE SOMEONE WITH PALSY! He looks ridiculous when he runs with his arms flailing everywhere.. he can’t even RUN PROPERLY AND HES THE FRIGGIN FLASH.. AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO GETS ANNOYED AT THE FACT HE LOOKS RIDICULOUS WHEN HE RUNS..

[@gagatube]

It's not easy to mince at high speed...

[@jeniferclemente1252]

“The only one that went around thinking ‘wet paint’ was an instruction” 😆 The film was supposed to be a “remake” of Justice League: Flashpoint Paradox. Only it failed huge in the storytelling cuz the animated film was a billion times better. They didn’t need multiple Barrys or a female “Superman” but it took a “special” person to rewrite it with those terrible ideas. (Along with the cgi babies…🤦‍♀️)

[@macp5527]

It's like, when a well established steakhouse wants to appeal to every customer by replacing the entire menu with gluten free vegan dishes, then wonder why its loyal customers never show up again, and few new customers come.

[@xarfai6124]

To no surprise women don't like a man that always finishes first.

[@Cerbyo]

then I guess they by definition don't like men

[@whatduck943]

😂

[@brockdavid]

He’s done in a ‘Flash.’ ;D

[@RogerS1978]

When he looked at that woman and said I'd hit that...I didn't think you meant with a baseball bat.

[@SadAlone-l7k]

A man doesn't need a woman to love that he finishes first.

[@DrRexie]

I think when they discovered how deranged Ezra miller was he should have been recast as soon as Dan possible

[@GabrielGoods]

Of course he should have been replaced.. he’s a CERTIFIABLE NUT JOB.. AND HE RUNS LIKE SOMEONE WITH PALSY.. HES RIDICULOUS.. and yet a total weirdo who can’t run or look good when he runs is cast.. I HAVE NO IDEA HOW THEY THINK..

[@DrRexie]

@GabrielGoods not to mention he's threatened his own fans with violence and should be locked away in a mental asylum by now don't forget that part

[@DarkSun123456789]

First 3 Seasons of Arrow (iirc, been a long time) and first 2 seasons of Flash were actually pretty decent and Legends of Tommorrow had 1-2 good seasons aswell. Problem is, then came Supergirl, Batwomen and all the former good shows decided to focus on female "empowerment".

[@dannyphantom3090]

Maybe I'm naive but people always say the first 2 but I feel the first 4 seasons of flash were good. Even though I enjoyed all the seasons

[@stonehengemaca]

The only reason I've heard of directors these days is by actively finding out who they are so I can avoid their work in the future..

[@svetlanaandrasova6086]

Remember when horrible movies flopped and directors learnt from it?

[@SadAlone-l7k]

I don't.

[@jaanzi4347]

Provide one (1) example of this ever happening ever.

[@blackfire3744]

The flash movie flopped because of the lead and very poor writing.

[@Cerbyo]

All the lead did was make fun of himself the entire movie, what's not to like about that? And it had better writing than anything from snyder and the baggage of generic trash mainstream superhero movies ppl like him have spat out for the masses. I've tried 4 times to watch the first avengers movie, talk about poor writing....good lord.

[@nickdirienzo2849]

What happened to "The Mad Goose Wizard!"??? 😂

[@theghostofmaximumvolume3414]

Rich people love goose, but as food.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

Pate, anyone?

[@erikhermansen3431]

He's... (takes off glasses).... Cooked....

[@andrewthorsten3809]

bengaow goooze

[@sonofliberty78]

Ezra Miller is a public menace. He should probably be behind bars, instead of trying to “scold the world” for rejecting his insanity.

[@IdrisAfonina-u7w]

Awesome job, you should be proud of making me laugh this much!

[@MamaMOB]

Why? Who are you? Why is your laughter so much more important than anyone else's?

[@iambob6590]

@@MamaMOB It's a bot

[@Dr_Robodaz]

Being Muschietti: So.... Can't blame the Mad Goose Wizard? Can't blame the diverse writers? Can't blame the bosses? Won't blame myself? That's it. The fans.

[@brockdavid]

“Am I out of touch…? No, it’s the fans who are to blame.”

[@zacharymcmillan2788]

"Do you read comic books? Does it matter? Do you know the character? Does it matter?" 🤣🤣🤣👍

[@Merrifieldsam]

I just love the fact that the director decided to overcomplicate the sentence "This movie flopped because nobody liked it" No Sh!t Sherlock! What was your first clue? LOL yes, a movei that appeals to no one will ultimately fail because no one likes it

[@ParkerCS2]

I hate that Andy Muschietti is attached to make a Shadow of the Colossus movie. If Sony had at least a single brain cell they would tell him to F off! Keep him away from big IPS including Batman and SotC.

[@jessekoepp3928]

Modern Sony is ran by wildly out of touch buffoons that apparently can fail all day long without ever worrying about being fired over it. Must be nice being in charge over there.

[@hikingglint9648]

Oh no....OH NOO!! Oh God No! Why SotC?

[@andynonya1490]

Its true. I refuse to watch garbage and support a garbage actor.

[@morecringe89]

I agree. a movie does not make money because people does not watch it. now why people does not watch it that is a question that should be good to ask for this people. I don't go to movies anymore. Everything now is because they are geniuses and they deserve everything...well, I will burn my money somewhere else.

[@dannyphantom3090]

Thats crazy the director said nobody likes flash even though i watched and enjoyed all 9 seasons of it so it's clearly not the character fault. Also im still mad that grant gustin or John ship didnt get cameos but dead actors did.

[@daninagy4173]

As a proud DC fanboy, my favorite character is The Flash. I loved him in the animated series (JL, JLA, Superman, Brave and Bold, Young Justice) even more than Batman. I liked the CW Flash for a while, but then we all know what happened... Flashpoint Paradox and the other animated movies made me love him more, regardless of him being Barry or Wally. I was open to a new live action Flash in the DCU, but after we found out what Miller was like, I checked out...

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Yeah.

[@BobChancer]

10:23 its not strange at all.... women can have their own movies and shows but men have to share ALL their entertainment with women from comics & graphic novels to books & novels, from online games to tabletop games, and from tv shows to movies.... its not new its a toxic feminist concept that goes.... "WHATS YOURS IS MINE AND WHATS MINE IS MY OWN!"

[@Pherim_]

Its so cathartic to see Women get blamed for the flop of a movie for once

[@MegaKnight2012]

James Gunn complimenting the Ezra Flash movie, makes me have even less hopes for his DC movies, which were very low to begin with

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

I frankly don't understand how the fucc Gunn thinks sometims, same with Tom Cruise who said the same... WHY? The were devoured by the fanservice?

[@Ron_Jambo_]

It was kind of him to say "don't watch any of my movies in the future" in simple layman terms anyone can understand 😊

[@JohnSmith-cw7hb]

I'm confused. Wasn't "The Flash" in theaters a couple years ago? Who cares who James Gunn blames - he wasn't really even involved in The Flash, right? That was mostly prep'd before Gunn came in as the DCEU lead....right? (beyond the fact that he's blaming someone, thereby either proving that he's no better than other modern producers, or that the article is misrepresentative)

[@maxheadroom4659]

even if Ezra committed no crimes he would still be annoying AF.

[@Thanatos0519]

So, Hollywood can't tell us who a movie is made for, but they can tell us who it's not made for. Then, the process of elimination? No, that doesn't work because they'll still blame those that it wasn't made for for it's failure. Hmm.

[@sodalakevine]

“Pound me too” 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@pauljsedmak]

Finn from Star Wars should have completed his sacrifice in Episode 8, which would have been a powerful end to his arc, but Rose's interference undermined his journey and left his character unresolved.

[@gagatube]

Dude, you can't have a male character becoming popular and the actor growing in his role in 'Modern Star Wars'. I'll bet KK was on to that in a flash: "Hello Script-writing? Audience research says Finn is gaining a substantial following and it's growing, so obviously he'll have to die at the end of the current movie. Write in a character to replace him. What? Of course the new character should be female! And while you're at it, make her Asian and gay!"

[@CD-Gaming]

As a kid born in 1984, I always knew that Transformers was for boys, My Little Pony for girls and Care Bears was for toddlers! That has basically stayed the same, guys love watching giants robots smacking the crap out of each other, it's very satisfying, it's why Gundam is popular among guys as well, though the Real Robot aspect sees it appeal to our love for things mechanical, for construction, machinery and how things work, it's also why Model Kits, Gunpla in particular, are popular, mainly among the dangly bit group, we like building stuff! There is, however, crossover! Not everyone who builds Gunpla is male, jus look at my mate and his wife! They build kits all the time, well, she can, when the crackpot cats aren't nicking the decals, Tamari! The same goes for My Little Pony, jus look at Friendship is Magic and the rise of the "Brony"! They also know who their target audience is, it's jus that it is so well written than jus about anybody can find enjoyment in it, can find something that appeals, that calls out to them! And I understand Lauren Faust has form in that regard as well!

[@7735a]

So, we've progressed from "the customer is always right" to "it's the customer's fault no one buys it."

[@DrWackySanchez]

2:38 - 5:40 Based take "Just because they're targeted at different people, doesn't mean you're excluded"

Hollywood has basically become Sweden. A bland echo chamber with super hot women.

[@Nyet-Zdyes]

Wait. Hollyweird still has hot women? Okay, yeah, there's a couple... but not like it used to be.

[@erikhermansen3431]

If plastic's your thing I guess....

[@Ron_Jambo_]

You mean men ?...

[@fortcastellan1730]

You can make a 4-Quadrant movie (I've heard National Treasure described as such) but it's really hard. It takes a lot of skill, a lot of luck, and you just have to choose the right topic/genre/theme for the movie. In any case, it's very risky to bet 200 million dollars (or more) on getting the formula right. Especially when you start off with so many challenges; Ezra Miller as the star, being part of the flailing DCEU, featuring a weird non-standard Super Girl instead of the version people know and sort-of love, etc...

[@itsabouttthattime]

George Lucas set out to make films that his 8 year-old self wished for. He got lucky and his vision appealed to everyone from 5-65. The important thing, though, is that 8 year-old boys LOVED it. That's how you succeed. By making YOUR VISION, not checking boxes or "maximizing audience".

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

That "pound me too" joke was really good

[@thedisgruntledjedi8637]

It's really sad, when you brought up the viewership of the Flash. I used to Love Arrow and the Flash. they were great shows, and then the one guy got fired for being a creep and they readjusted HARD, and the show became virtually unwatchable overnight,.

[@theunknowncommenter725]

I like this movie, but I claim no responsibility whatsoever for its failing. I was not responsible in any way shape or form for creating it, I just paid a ticket.

[@USMC_1991]

Hollywood: "It's YOUR fault that we failed to make an entertaining movie!"

[@Madison-iw8ix]

People still think about The Flash and Miller?

[@BoopedNose]

When my kids misbehave I threaten them with this shit movie... "Don't MAKE me put the flash on again" they're the best behaved boys in the world 😁

[@wape1]

During the last decade or two I've found out that as a white male *literally everything* is my fault, so just chuck this on the pile too...

[@Nathan.007]

ezra miller being a pdf file made me not watch it.

[@ablogin1]

pdf file! 🤣😂🤣😂

[@Zan_Jayna]

Back in the 1980s my friends mostly thought Flash and Aquaman sucked. They said they would be dumb in a solo movie and they seem to have been right. So little kids knew what executives don't seem to get. People just don't want these characters, except as co-stars for Superman and Batman

[@MyAramil]

People do want these characters though. They want them done right and not this crap.

[@kingcosworth2643]

Kids minds haven't been polluted by politics yet

[@MamaMOB]

The Flash television show is pretty damn awesome for the first two seasons. When they were actually trying to be in the movies. So that was done well. So it does seem that people do in fact want the flash. And if Aquaman had a better story it probably would have done well. Jason Momoa is hot as hell! We do want the superheroes. We just want them to have good storylines. We went good movies with them in it.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

No, they are not right. Both Aquaman films are...decent. And the Flash is interesting with villains like the Rogues. Plus the CW series worked to some degree. Both people and DC are the ones who don't want to live just about Superman and Batman.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

​@@MamaMOBBased.

[@markenetube]

The Flash, Supergirl, Arrow, all started OK. Then they got more woke and sweet with every series.. Things like "Oh, we're all super heroes" I got diabetes and stopped watching .

[@stevedean2516]

My Grandmother and her friend were flashed in the park. My Grandmother's friend had a stroke, my Grandmother couldn't reach... I'm sorry.

[@F0x3S919]

They had nearly 10 years to learn and still dont get it. WE VOTE WITH OUR WALLET

[@chadwik4000]

The people making excuses for James Gun, saying he was trying to drum up hype are exactly the problem. They don't even realize that he is lying to them and screwing them and they're willing to give him the benefit of the doubt... What a bunch of suckers

[@bartlester591]

I’m really sick and tired of Hollywood’s argument that if a $50 million movie grossed $1 billion then a $2 billion movie will goss 40 billion it’s time to set aside. This will have a big budget so it’s not going to fail. Big budget. Movies can fail and the reason they fail is because no one pays attention to one the audience and what they want and two the subject matter and if there’s any kind of already established lore and if you’re going against that and the third thing a two or three hour movie that is nothing more than a rather expensive light show that gets nauseating overuse of special effects is just as bad as not as lazy, writing and dumbass directors

[@darrenwho]

Idfk why they didnt use the dude from the already popular TV show. Seemed not right to cast a different actor. However, now they can probably use him in the reboot.

[@MyAramil]

I refuse to watch this movie because the actor, who let me remind you all, had issues such as RECORDED ASSAULTS ON PEOPLE. Police reports for his attacking of people. Plenty of restraining orders against him, Who led police on a nationwide manhunt where he had basically kidnapped a child and their mother to a private ranch, where drugs and firearms where present. Yet despite all of these EVIDENCE BACKED cases WB smiled like they just busted a nut and went "we wont get rid of him!!!!!!!" Meanwhile they fired Johnny Depp on ALLEGATIONS!!!!!

[@mythmurzin]

i think the problem with the flash movie is it was far too busy with too many plot points to cover. it works in comic books because its serial and you can take a few issues to cover a story. it works for a tv show because you have at least 8 episodes to cover it. in a movie? best to keep it simpler at the start, you gotta build up to the bigger stories. thats why MCU phase 1 worked. it was 1 big huge story told over 4-6 characters, over like 9 movies.

[@andresanguianozuniga6798]

Reasons why The Flash flopped: -The DCEU was already dead. -Ezra Miller was the Star and i don't want to support criminals who we're pardoned for their identity. -The movie looked like a DESPERATE Spider-Man NWH but about DC. -The film was in the oven since 2018. It's not the fault of Andy, AND ITS NOT OUR FAULT. That film was sadly destined to fail for all of this reasons...not the demographic of the AUDIENCE.

[@davidfinch7407]

Women being the issue might be correct. After all, they went to go see Aquaman. Muscular, sexy, masculine Aquaman, played by an actor that didn't assault women off-screen. And for some reason, Ezra Miller didn't appeal to them. Hmmm. I have a weird thought- maybe, if you want a movie to succeed, you should pick a lead that has charisma and isn't disgusting.

[@sba8710]

Don’t forget the massive problem caused by Ezra Miller as the star.

[@bigdoubleu117]

It's insane to me how much trust people still have in James Gunn for DC. To me, him flapping his mouth just calls in to question if he's trustworthy, and so far, his word means nothing after The Flash, Blue Beetle, and Aquaman 2. All of which he said were such great films, the best ever. In fact, Blue Beetle was going to be the start of his DCU... Some say it's not his fault, it was marketing... Oh sorry, does WB suddenly not have a marketing team!? Just leave it to James Gunn to lie to the audience... Sure that makes sense. People may not have liked a lot of Zack Snyder's vision, but I would at least try to argue that a lot of the problems with the DCEU is the fact that WB can't manage a paper hat, let alone any of their franchises.

[@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK]

People hard trust and to to bat for Henry Cavill and he's done literally nothing so it should surprise you Man joined reddit and pretended for all we know to be a PC gamer and all of a sudden he's sooooo amazing and the best thing in Hollywood I love the guy but people are.just sooooooo dumb and sheep like it's insane Dude has done literally nothing but make false promises and hype then go silent, he's not given us what people keep saying he's gonna give us So in short it shouldn't surprise you as these people are so dumb they would trust a rock if it talked a good enough game, we are.evolving backwards and humanity is dying

[@irishking2040]

In my opinion people do not give enough credit to how much people hated his conduct in the real world. No matter what stream or program I saw the chats were full of people saying how much they hated him.

[@Sarah_lieve_meisje]

You're awesome! Humility and humor, you've got the whole package!

[@DebraBrodie-uz4ki]

This is just the start. Keep pushing!

[@seanfoltz7645]

The problem isn't that they are making a movie for all four quadrants, instead, it's that they're making a movie for a tiny sliver of one of those quadrants but thinking that all four quadrants are going to like it.

[@friskydingo9024]

I watched the CW Flash and the episode where Iris gets his powers and is some how better than him when he'd spent I think 3 or 4 seasons at that point learning his powers made me stop watching. They started girl bossing to an insane level.

[@jimmysuperduty1484]

The reason men still saw Madam Web was because Sydney Sweeney was in it...and thats literally it

[@MamaMOB]

I am fine with corporations blaming me for not buying their shitty products. If they want to give me credit for the fact that I don't have such bad taste that I'll just lap up whatever the hell crap they give me I'll take it. I'm proud of the fact that I won't just consume bullshit just because it's given to me. I don't care if they bitch and moan. I don't care if they go bankrupt. I will not consumeme their bullshit.

[@ReinoldFZ]

What is infuriating isn't that much Ezra Miller, somebody that has to be mentally ill; but the lengths the studio goes to defend him till the point to insult the audience. It shows how much of hypocrites they are and they applaud a guy hitting women if he declares to be of a member of the citizens of the high class of the "oppressed."

[@THEBUGSAREBACCCCKKKKKKKKKK]

Bro he's a P3d0 It's absolutely him that's the main issue They are pushing a kiddie fiddler on us and shaming is for not accepting him as he's mentally screwed and part of the LGBBQ, I think you need to look into Ezra again brother mane, you are out of the loop, the woman beating is old news Once you mess with kids it's Joever

[@DeadFishFactory]

You'd think that you'd want to listen to the people that can seemingly destroy your movie by doing nothing, but here we are, where they refuse to take any responsibility.

[@arostwocents]

People KNOW who the Flash is. But hes boring and unpopular. Its nothing to do with Ezra. It seems like it is Ezra to film geeks but normal people dont know or care who Ezra is. Its just that the Flash is a bad character and the film wasnt good enough to build buzz and good reviews, or in a moment of high popularity of heroes like Aquaman, who succeeded originally despite being a very unpopular character. The failure of Aquaman 2 indicates how people see the character. The Flash tv series was released originally when people LOVED superheroes. It didnt say anything about The Flash being popular. He isnt.

[@deeesher]

I love all of this. I remember, I never cared about Flash until the first episode of the CW series. I can say the same about Iron Man and even Captain America. Great writing goes a long way. And conversely, I had a woman friend of mine who decided to watch the first Avengers movie. Her reason was because she heard a lot of great things about it. She was disappointed because she said... It's still just a dumb comic book movie. I wanted to shout, what were you expecting?? In fairness, I watched Barbie, and even Wicked, and I know for a fact it wasn't made for me... But I appreciate they were very well made and had some good elements. But I have no reason to ever watch again.