The Flaws of HOI4 Roleplay

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goated

goated

Жыл бұрын

HOI4 Roleplay has some problems.
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@erikblue7842
@erikblue7842 Жыл бұрын
There are two types of HOI4 Roleplayers. 1: Those who spend an hour in a peace deal. 2: "NO YOU CAN'T PUSH ME BACK YET, IT'S NOT 1944 YET"
@goose93
@goose93 Жыл бұрын
They do both
@purpleplays69420
@purpleplays69420 16 күн бұрын
Or 3: Those who take as much territory from the peace deal as possible.
@Ref461
@Ref461 6 күн бұрын
@purpleplays69420 and the chads who release hundreds of smaller countries
@ryanrg1545
@ryanrg1545 5 күн бұрын
@@purpleplays69420 No no, those are normal HOI4 players, not roleplayers.
@purpleplays69420
@purpleplays69420 5 күн бұрын
@@ryanrg1545 not normal for roleplaying context, but base game yes
@MacronsKitten
@MacronsKitten Жыл бұрын
It's insane that every problem you brought up is still completely present in Stellaris, a game literally made to be a story generator. Amazing video
@maxs.5112
@maxs.5112 Жыл бұрын
Trying to get a RP stellaris game going very much crushed me so bad that I had to step away from the entire game for a long time. Its so hard to RP when everyone is playing a meta, and you are playing either a 1 Planet civilization, or a (almost) purely religious empire.
@dingusbingus2888
@dingusbingus2888 Жыл бұрын
I like to make the comparison to joining a random table for dnd. You know you'll get shit for a while but you'll always find that singular player that loves to play the game like you do and is just an absolute roleplay Chad. Collect them like pokemon and slowly make your own table and you have a shit tonne of hours of untapped roleplay to indulge in. Stellaris is the same for this. The wall of goblins playing the meta builds and shitting on others at the start of the game is a given. But the friendships you make with the select few once you find them makes the struggle worth it.
@scoopidywhoop7484
@scoopidywhoop7484 Жыл бұрын
Stellaris is horribly optimized.
@arakui
@arakui Жыл бұрын
@@scoopidywhoop7484 every pdx game is horribly optimized. the old ones only run as well as they do becuase people just brute force new hardware at them. some like vic 2 don't even work well in that regard
@Ralampos
@Ralampos Жыл бұрын
@@arakui me who runs CK2 at speed 5 and (slightly) lags with modern hardware :
@thewildwegonian92
@thewildwegonian92 Жыл бұрын
Hoi4 MP is best done with friends tbh. The more people in the match and the less known about each other is the more and more chaos and the "I gotta be better" mentality grows
@NoFlu
@NoFlu Жыл бұрын
So true. The only time "competetive" MP is fun is when somebody is completly abusing the system, which is the exact opposite of what most MP mods try to do. Just get 4 or 5 friends and sit in VOIP and shoot the shit for the first 3 years of the game before you team up to defeat whatever major has become the most threatening, or just use game rules to make your intended enemy more dangerous. I really doubt HoI was ever ment to be played in an E-Sport-like fashion and trying to make it one would be a massive blunder for Paradox...
@thewildwegonian92
@thewildwegonian92 Жыл бұрын
@@NoFlu I have never played HOI4 MP unless it was with my friends tbh. My experience in games like L4D2 with doing MP with strangers leaves a bit of a dour taste.
@peytondrews703
@peytondrews703 4 күн бұрын
The yogscast playing as the Soviets, Romania, and Poland was amazing, as they just cooperated as moderate noobs against the AI. Just Rp and jokes and fun. I wish some irl friends played Hoi4 now.
@thewildwegonian92
@thewildwegonian92 4 күн бұрын
@@peytondrews703 tbh I miss MP hoi4, cause it was fun kind of organizing either the group effort against the world. Or the understanding of what nation's we picked were purposely going to clash.
@anantachonnambat6701
@anantachonnambat6701 3 күн бұрын
I played an actual role play server once with Kaiserreich mod. I played as Siam just because I'm Thai and I wanted to play minor. I was in an Asian discord room and talked with Qing about how I wanted peace with him so we can protect ourselves from Imperialists aggression and that my ambition is only Indochina. Japan came in to call me for a 1-1 talk and ask me to join his Co-Pros, saying that I have no choice anyway since no one is going to help me and that I will be his ''ally" and have a say in things. OfCourse, I accept then he went to war with Germany 2 years into the game (I have 3 mils) because I convinced him about leaving Qing alone and Germany is a greater threat (A.O.G. was still a thing so more than 100+ divs in Asian colonies). Then I got lend-lease from Russia (Who hated Japan's gut after losing the whole Siberia) cause I convinced him about having same enemies (Germany) and lend-lease from the U.S. (I sent 1 marine division in the civil war and help liberate Seattle somehow) because he is grateful. The tension of stalemate in Indochina and Malaya is palpable, Germany naval invasion of Hatyai cause me 12 divs and a total collapse of southern army, forcing me to mobilize police force as a stop gap measure, sinking of KMS Dresden ending Germany invasion threat and bombing of Bangkok. Was a very fun game with 25 people in the server.
@soulsidejourney2693
@soulsidejourney2693 Жыл бұрын
you can play hoi4 with other people?
@veryfunnydoge7045
@veryfunnydoge7045 14 күн бұрын
There is a massive button called multiplayer underneath the Singleplayer button, assuming you have played the game atleast once, you should have seen it.
@matthewjones39
@matthewjones39 5 күн бұрын
@@veryfunnydoge7045It’s a joke.
@rubenssilva6902
@rubenssilva6902 4 күн бұрын
​@@veryfunnydoge7045nah bro i am automatic Im not even joking my mouse is ALWAYS ready to click the top button Then after a year playing I go like "wait the hell you mean i can play with other people?"
@veryfunnydoge7045
@veryfunnydoge7045 4 күн бұрын
@@rubenssilva6902 🤣🤣🤣
@viligerm6592
@viligerm6592 4 күн бұрын
I love playing with myself
@Dlw-bz3wj
@Dlw-bz3wj Жыл бұрын
I personally prefer non-hist and its sad to see the hoi4 community being transformed into this league of legends like game where u must do historical everytime. IMO it removes all real strategy and it becomes who can click faster and do a better META, the victoria 2 MP community seems to be the best in terms of TRUE strategy with diplo, resources, etc so i'd def reccomend anyone interested to seek it out there. good video and good points
@Ronald98
@Ronald98 Жыл бұрын
You can blame Tommykay for that...
@Dlw-bz3wj
@Dlw-bz3wj Жыл бұрын
@@Ronald98 ik he's unbearably annoying, hoi is just run by 13 year old kids in discords...
@snopespeerreview
@snopespeerreview Жыл бұрын
The game is literally designed that if you do not go mostly historical it will not be that good of a game 98% of hte time
@JahJah-CleverHandle
@JahJah-CleverHandle Жыл бұрын
I rarely play historical, a-historical is more random and fun for me.
@Dlw-bz3wj
@Dlw-bz3wj Жыл бұрын
@@snopespeerreview according to what? what is your definition of a "good game", so long as people play their countries dont troll or ragequit nonhist is way better, HIST games almost always die cuz 1-2 people quit and say welp my alliance is ruined gg and ends in 41, at least in nonhist it doesnt matter and the game can continue on
@harper2844
@harper2844 Жыл бұрын
It's insane that you only have 173 subs. These videos are amazing, you deserve so much more recognition, keep it up! I believe in you!!
@blahblah8471
@blahblah8471 Жыл бұрын
Look up the youtuber "Goated"
@polishgamer3503
@polishgamer3503 Жыл бұрын
did it just go up to 472 in 2 hours?
@ItsFinRocket
@ItsFinRocket Жыл бұрын
@@polishgamer3503 yes, yes it fucking did. this channel boutta blow up.
@gamespy0420
@gamespy0420 Жыл бұрын
Bro 4 hours has passed and he has gained like 615
@recifie-7628
@recifie-7628 Жыл бұрын
here before 1K subs gang
@spoterrrp4059
@spoterrrp4059 Жыл бұрын
nice vid man, good quality honestly i agree, people for some reason just forget what roleplay is, they no longer even try to be serious with it itself and act like they're a leader of a real nation, they're just playing a game and that's it, not for the "story", but for the game.
@jackeinessontjader5291
@jackeinessontjader5291 Жыл бұрын
Hi Spoterrrp! Also i agree
@maxs.5112
@maxs.5112 Жыл бұрын
Try hard: "heheheh... Yea. I mean, I am role-playing as Belgium... Who just wants to takeover the entire world every game. Is that too hard to ask?"
@simonscience5846
@simonscience5846 Жыл бұрын
When your options are Roleplay or "What, you want to play a random minor? And go axis- GET THE F*CK OUT THIS IS COMPETITIVE"
@DiscardPixel
@DiscardPixel Жыл бұрын
😳 He mentioned our mod
@Liquid_Architecture
@Liquid_Architecture Жыл бұрын
😎
@anomonyous
@anomonyous 2 күн бұрын
Nice
@tutugry3105
@tutugry3105 Жыл бұрын
As someone that plays hardcore competitive hoi i always say that the core issue with rp games is: *Hoi4 was NOT made to be an rp game, it was made to be an combat game.* Sure you can role play but in the end of the day hoi4 was made for combat, politics are barely in the game, economic system dosent exist , and even the way time passes in hours is there only because of combat. You can rp for an few years but eventually war *will* happen, and that makes hoi4 return to its original state or being an war game where your military is the most important factor. I also have seen so many good rp games turning south because someone gave an BS excuse and joined an war/intentionally killed an lobby. Ironically the best Paradox game to roleplay would be Victoria 3, since there economy and politics matter. But you have execelent production quality man, very good video
@joaojonito3764
@joaojonito3764 2 күн бұрын
Shouldnt war be a part of the rp?
@melonalex2445
@melonalex2445 Жыл бұрын
I knew that voice reminded me of a certain person.
@glassbottlemenacesyou8323
@glassbottlemenacesyou8323 Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of a certain sex offender
@melonalex2445
@melonalex2445 Жыл бұрын
@@glassbottlemenacesyou8323 Ayo. 😂
@estoniandude
@estoniandude Жыл бұрын
goat man
@melonalex2445
@melonalex2445 Жыл бұрын
@@estoniandude I still dont get why people just dont look at his channel description.
@Bob-fh4ht
@Bob-fh4ht Жыл бұрын
@@melonalex2445 it says he's goated wdym
@jabloko992
@jabloko992 Жыл бұрын
What puts me off not only from hoi4 multi, but also hoi4 in general, is how it's less of a sandbox and more of a railroad type of thing. The parts of the game where you could go off-historic and do crazy stuff, rules like these usually come in to make sure that you don't. And if you do, it becomes a 'who has the more OP focus tree' game, with single points literally giving you countries.
@maxs.5112
@maxs.5112 Жыл бұрын
This is so relatable. This is not only true for hoi4, but (with my limited experience) it is also true for Paradox games such as Stellaris, and Ck. I tried soooo hard to make a Stellaris RP game work, but +50 rules, and people trying to destroy others out of the game is just... Not that fun.
@darkithnamgedrf9495
@darkithnamgedrf9495 Жыл бұрын
Eh ck is much better for role play, since even if you get conquered you can still exist as a vassal
@maxs.5112
@maxs.5112 Жыл бұрын
@@darkithnamgedrf9495 Yes. I can agree with that. Though there is the issue of players *continuously* assassinating each others players/family. (Or what I like to call them; assassination wars.)
@Bigzthegreat
@Bigzthegreat 8 ай бұрын
@@maxs.5112 never played a ck mp but it seems like hell so much micromanaging, if the pause button didn't exist i'd be dead
@maxs.5112
@maxs.5112 8 ай бұрын
@@Bigzthegreat It is actually not that hard once you get a feel for it. At some point, all you need is a glance or two to make a decision. 2-4 speed becomes doable with 2-3 speed being the main speed if having high intensity war. But if not then 4 is nice (when possible).
@Bigzthegreat
@Bigzthegreat 8 ай бұрын
@@maxs.5112 and how long are these games?
@prypiatshadow6371
@prypiatshadow6371 Жыл бұрын
Ive been saying this out loud for so long, thinking I was crazy, but you put everything I felt into words perfectly. Thank you soo much.
@Liquid_Architecture
@Liquid_Architecture Жыл бұрын
Ladies and gentlemen, we're seeing this channel blow up on our eyes. From 100 to 400 subscribers in 3 hours already
@goateddd
@goateddd Жыл бұрын
Lmao yea im looking at it too rn
@Liquid_Architecture
@Liquid_Architecture Жыл бұрын
An another hour passed, it's 700 now, it just keeps on going!
@Liquid_Architecture
@Liquid_Architecture Жыл бұрын
21:34 GMT, 999 subscribers
@Nasrul260
@Nasrul260 Жыл бұрын
Now at 1k
@Fl4kFire
@Fl4kFire Жыл бұрын
2 k now
@katsuo7k
@katsuo7k Жыл бұрын
holy shit bro im just seeing your subs boost in just a matter of hours and honestly its def deserved. From the editing and pacing as well as the info (granted ive never played hoi4 but just watched it in the sidelines) its impressive to see nonetheless. and in the words of palpatine "We Will Watch Your Career With Great Interest".
@katsuo7k
@katsuo7k Жыл бұрын
@@Oppen1945 Ive seen it but he posts more here so thats why im watching this channel instead
@peopleperson
@peopleperson Жыл бұрын
bro he already is big
@Infidi
@Infidi Жыл бұрын
Same goes for eu4, like... literally the entire video, every sentence can have eu4 instead of hoi4 in it and every sentence would fit 100%. Edit: what you said at the end about that one perfect game also fits perfectly, I had 4 which I remember pretty much start to finish in the sea a hundred forgotten games, and I was hosting and moderating more than half of them.
@spacenuts2781
@spacenuts2781 Жыл бұрын
Eu4 games are so cringe because everyone just map paints and youve always gotta deal with people who pick shitty meme nations to blob
@Infidi
@Infidi Жыл бұрын
@@spacenuts2781 replace "eu4" with "paradox map games" and "deal with people" with "appreciate people's larp" and you'll have a correct sentence.
@spacenuts2781
@spacenuts2781 Жыл бұрын
@@Infidi its not larp tho. People refuse to larp actually. There is nothing entertaining about having an eu4 game and then having an oirat player with noone near him who uses bs meta strats to annex asian and be a gigantic blob thats basically unkillable
@Infidi
@Infidi Жыл бұрын
@@spacenuts2781 I am not talking about your single player experience. You haven't played mp games with my group and know nothing what they're like nor how we play them. With all due respect, shut it.
@spacenuts2781
@spacenuts2781 Жыл бұрын
@@Infidi Are you retarded? Mf I don't who you are and I don't care about your group im taking about general games you can find of eu4 multiplayer
@viktormehl4311
@viktormehl4311 Жыл бұрын
you said everything i feel about RP games, great video
@PineappleMaxwell
@PineappleMaxwell Жыл бұрын
You deserve alot more subs, I love these BANGER videos
@Canadian-trees
@Canadian-trees Жыл бұрын
these are very good quality videos keep it up man!
@jonaw.2153
@jonaw.2153 2 ай бұрын
Something a lot of RP-players could benefit from is the "Yes, and" rule used in improv theater. If someone proposes a story-beat, you can go "yes, and" add to that with something new
@hanszecrusader379
@hanszecrusader379 Жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work man! Your content is amazing, glad seeing you get the recognition you deserve!
@hansenfoulken
@hansenfoulken Жыл бұрын
As someone who learned how to play hoi4 through RP games, this video is 100% correct. Also, I love your editing style.
@KIIINO
@KIIINO Жыл бұрын
Your channel is so original with really good editing keep it up bro!!!
@arcade3252
@arcade3252 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is very underated , you have some of the most beautiful content i have seen ❤❤
@Bob-fh4ht
@Bob-fh4ht Жыл бұрын
I love how I can find these little gems, great job man
@snopespeerreview
@snopespeerreview Жыл бұрын
Ex hoi 4 player here. The thing is the game has to have people not deviate too much or else the game has 99% chance of being bad/dying in 38-39 . Examples would be stuff like soviet civil war which will basically 99% chance make a game worse because of weak/useless USSR. i played USSR in 1 unhistorical game ever and i just did historical path and killed gemmany in 1942 because he was weaker and not the best at the game i think (he didn't have most of the normal german conquests so he didn't stand a chance) i did play one game though where germany did civil war and died 5 seconds into a war and it lasted until like 1942 because there was a axisish faction
@EpikBerm
@EpikBerm Жыл бұрын
I am so glad that I was not the only one who has been adamantly confused over the past few years of why so many "roleplay" mods were being made, and how they seemed to actually absolutely add nothing of *playing* (as in, performing; re-enactors of a battle don't legitimately fight for their lives lol) of the roles to the game. Now all is explained.
@lordmilchreis1885
@lordmilchreis1885 Жыл бұрын
Ayo why the hell is this such a well made video? you have no business only having 440 subs, you should have atleast 2 zeros behind that
@nedOfficiaI
@nedOfficiaI Жыл бұрын
Ay bro glad to see ya growing, been here since your first vid
@realguenter4872
@realguenter4872 Жыл бұрын
loved your old channel, love your new channel great job man
@himarambronanavarro141
@himarambronanavarro141 Жыл бұрын
Just wanna say, you deserve all the good things and the subs coming towards you
@KillerQueen_VLR
@KillerQueen_VLR Жыл бұрын
As soon as i heard 100 civs as yugo i knew i was onto smth, missed you bro
@jejehatesme31
@jejehatesme31 Жыл бұрын
i have watched all your videos so far and they are extremely entertaining!
@Simpyslav
@Simpyslav Жыл бұрын
Really good vid, loved the part about ,,Rules'' and avg lenght xDDD even the server we play on compared to Discardian has basically the same amount of rules so its a fair point
@Prauwlet213
@Prauwlet213 Жыл бұрын
Nice video! Also congrats on your rapid growth!
@Koupip
@Koupip Жыл бұрын
that moment when you said "that one rp game that goes well" reminded me of why i use to play dayz so much, i would get my shit pushed in constantly but then i would have that 1 roleplay that was so amazing it made the 1000h worth of suffering worth it lol
@northern830
@northern830 Жыл бұрын
god ive been watching you since you were goated lmao, glad ur blowing up
@goateddd
@goateddd Жыл бұрын
Subscribe if you enjoyed it! We're gonna be makin' a little KZbin empire together 🙏
@quirthercog4493
@quirthercog4493 Жыл бұрын
now hang on a minute arent you that goated youtuber?
@goateddd
@goateddd Жыл бұрын
@@quirthercog4493 Yup
@Charlie-fu6ep
@Charlie-fu6ep Жыл бұрын
Looks like I found the most underrated KZbinr of century.
@quirthercog4493
@quirthercog4493 Жыл бұрын
@@goateddd oh sick!! ive got major respect for u, i just finished watching the controversy videos and i'm sorry you had to go through all of that, i hope youve improved
@goateddd
@goateddd Жыл бұрын
@@quirthercog4493 Ty for lookin out for me, im good no worries!
@jmdibonaventuro
@jmdibonaventuro Жыл бұрын
This video summed up my problems with Hoi4 multiplayer in general. I love the game, and can beat the AI, but I’m not huge into competitive. I normally don’t even change my div templates unless the enemy I’m fighting needs it (Like Germany in the base game). My PC is pretty bad, so I don’t want to hamper other players’ times, and I don’t have discord so most well regulated games are off limits. That leaves me either with Competitive Servers, where everyone’s a sweat and there are 20000 rules to keep me playing exactly like the admin wants, or RP, where people are still competitive but my game lags horribly. Add that to the fact my Hoi4 hasn’t been doing multiplayer correctly since a few updates ago, and the fact that that same update caused some of my mods (Cold War, OWB, Great War, etc.) to crash on boot, and I just don’t really have the ability to do Hoi MP. Great video for summarizing the problems in Hoi MP. Keep it up! -J
@wallachia4797
@wallachia4797 Жыл бұрын
Coming from SAMP, I realise that HOI4 RP has zero idea what powergaming is. Powergaming is the first and foremost rule of an RP scenario and hoi4 RPers break it constantly. The simple fact that you go into an RP game where you tryhard to reach your specific goal and use every advantage to help you is powergaming. There's no lorebuilding, no "character development", nothing, it's just tryharding but with a veil of diplomacy added on top.
@pitstop_pug9311
@pitstop_pug9311 Жыл бұрын
Its good to have you back ̶G̶o̶a̶t̶e̶d̶ Google mapper, no one truly could replace you. o7
@Greyspecies9999
@Greyspecies9999 Жыл бұрын
i remember playing my first rp hoi4 game months ago it literally felt just like how you described (which i'm going to sum up with one word): hell, and it had few rules except it had to be mostly historical we had to wait for one guy who wanted to play as germany for *an hour* and the other peeps who reserved never joined nor had they responded when the host dm'd them (at least, not as fast), then the game started and it wasn't too bad, until sometime in 1937, the game lagged and the host had to afk for half an hour BEFORE it happened, without warning, and we had to play at 1 speed for what felt like an eternity i want to remind y'all one thing: the pre-game (or however you wanna call it) was set up a week earlier in discord
@supertriggerd4959
@supertriggerd4959 2 сағат бұрын
Insane editing bro nice work
@ItsFinRocket
@ItsFinRocket Жыл бұрын
This video just perfectly hit the youtube algorithm. This channel will grow like crazy.
@MrVanjapro
@MrVanjapro Жыл бұрын
Hey! Great video and honestly can relate with all the points you brought up. My only thought right now is; why don't you make a discord for this type of rp game? I'm looking for the same thing and many others too I'm sure.
@eyalinbar4845
@eyalinbar4845 Жыл бұрын
Just what i was about to ask
@goateddd
@goateddd Жыл бұрын
It's in the nature of HOI4 to just be an anti-RP and pro-battle royale type of game, so there's just no hope in creating the ideal RP experience. Maybe one day someone will make a game that is the opposite of this dilemma : /
@eyalinbar4845
@eyalinbar4845 Жыл бұрын
@@goateddd if you get your audience, people likr myself, who actually enjoy rp, maybe there is hope
@goateddd
@goateddd Жыл бұрын
@@eyalinbar4845 Even then i dont enjoy playing hoi4 that much anymore, i just like doing these scenarios. We'll see how it goes.
@hoshimaruarchives8990
@hoshimaruarchives8990 Жыл бұрын
I would sign up
@Preussensprinz
@Preussensprinz Күн бұрын
You really took me down memory lane with that vaporwave
@polishspy8778
@polishspy8778 Жыл бұрын
bro a day ago you only had over 100 subs, now you almost have 3k, your channel blowed up so quickly, im really impressed
@panospapadopoulos768
@panospapadopoulos768 Жыл бұрын
I have 1000 hours in hoi4 and never played rp or a multiplayer game i always play with my budies and alone for achievements
@timelordomega5914
@timelordomega5914 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for describing the entirety of Boekoen’s channel to us all
@KrolThePole
@KrolThePole Жыл бұрын
Goated?
@mariadinoraaraujodossantos9891
@mariadinoraaraujodossantos9891 Жыл бұрын
He can't escape hoi4 💀
@Gruhbb
@Gruhbb Жыл бұрын
Bro got like 4k subs in 1 DAY! Dang you're just so underrrated!
@medved7683
@medved7683 Жыл бұрын
Damn, finally a channel which I enjoy. This is a very promising channel. Keep up the work, it seems like your already hitting the algorithm!
@peopleperson
@peopleperson Жыл бұрын
he already has a channel
@GoogleAccount-tf6lh
@GoogleAccount-tf6lh Жыл бұрын
I greatly enjoy the editing quality of this video
@LLAANN1988
@LLAANN1988 Жыл бұрын
I really hate also how there are no public easily found historical games. Everyone knows to get players you need to say non-hist rp, but then the host and the people who set it up just play his. why can't we have some proper historical public games?
@mrronron7328
@mrronron7328 Жыл бұрын
I find it absolutely insane how your channel got ~20 time more subs in only *1* day, fully deserved, your channel will become big, mark my words
@sword7305
@sword7305 Жыл бұрын
because of a previously established community on a previous channel he abandoded
@mrronron7328
@mrronron7328 Жыл бұрын
@@sword7305 I'm not sure it's only coming from this channel, I didn't knew him until yesterday, and yet I still got his channel in my recommandations.
@kakoolie6947
@kakoolie6947 Жыл бұрын
Ay goated! Glad I had this in my recommendations. I know your trying to escape some stressful people. I want you to know you make great content. Thank you.
@zackbobby5550
@zackbobby5550 Жыл бұрын
The main reason that it always becomes competitive is simply because it is multiplayer and people want to continue playing. All those cool formable nations require you to gain land, land you have to take from somebody else. That other nation is controlled by a human player who, understandably, doesn't want to give up any land as they ALSO need that land for THEIR formable nation. When you have 2 people who require the same chunk of land, and need to fight over it, and they are both highly motivated to win as these scheduled long HoI IV games are a massive investment of time and effort, it's bound to get sweaty. That's not really anybody's fault, but it is the nature of having a game where everybody is highly motived to win. It's going to be competitive. Nobody wants to go through the first few years of HoI that are boring as fuck building up their nation just to sell important land, merge with another country, lose a war, etc. All of those things might be more realistic/better for the "roleplay", but who wants to give up hours and hours of playing HoI on 2 speed without putting up the best fight they can?
@shi5369
@shi5369 Жыл бұрын
Why not start your own community around this? Never done Hoi4 Rp but it sounds pretty fun. I think half of these problems could be fixed with better management/planning
@picollojr9009
@picollojr9009 Жыл бұрын
Because often communities devolve into political thinking idiots, drama, manipulation and people thinking that administering a group of guys is like being the president
@richardvlasek2445
@richardvlasek2445 Жыл бұрын
because it turns out all of these problems are present even in nonhist games because the game itself is fundamentally broken
@michael120.
@michael120. Жыл бұрын
@@Benekon i knew his ass sounded familiar its goated
@coolcid1167
@coolcid1167 Жыл бұрын
I’ve been looking for this. His voice does like goated’s
@Alexvondark
@Alexvondark 10 сағат бұрын
Resonance is beautiful in the background
@walyus9389
@walyus9389 Жыл бұрын
Love your editing
@johnvideogames
@johnvideogames Жыл бұрын
this was a really good video dude!
@whygeo
@whygeo Жыл бұрын
high quality content, subbed
@cpp3221
@cpp3221 Жыл бұрын
I used to play geo rp on discord, not on videogame, just your average rp where you play countries on the discord chan and... everything you brought up applies to that kind of rp too. And somehow, we still play, we crave for an awesome game which never arrives (or which break the mods due to the works needed to make the mechanics works). It's kinda strange
@cpp3221
@cpp3221 Жыл бұрын
@@matsusakasatou I accepted your friend request tho
@Randomusername56782
@Randomusername56782 3 күн бұрын
Yeah same here too ngl, the genre kinda got tedious for me after awhile, either it was me exhausting my knowledge on Iraq and desert storm grinding against someone else who had the same experience or even more then me, or it was just having to deal with kids, srry for ranting but still it just got boring after awhile.
@cpp3221
@cpp3221 3 күн бұрын
@@Randomusername56782 Don't worry for the rant I understand, I kinda had similar experiences too. Rarely got satisfied with the result.
@TrippyTV13
@TrippyTV13 Жыл бұрын
Never thought I would find your new channel after the old one went belly under
@jojostwin2492
@jojostwin2492 Жыл бұрын
The editing is amazing
@cheesegoblin333
@cheesegoblin333 Жыл бұрын
very good video, genuanly surprised you dont have more subscribers
@recifie-7628
@recifie-7628 Жыл бұрын
Get your 'Here before 1K subs' tickets, this man's channel is bouta blow!
@jackeinessontjader5291
@jackeinessontjader5291 Жыл бұрын
Ticket gotten
@recifie-7628
@recifie-7628 Жыл бұрын
​@@jackeinessontjader5291 you're late..
@bluechimp9083
@bluechimp9083 Жыл бұрын
Goated/Google mapper I know your past but i still love your vids it’s sad you had to ditch your other channel but keep your good work going
@ohno6528
@ohno6528 Жыл бұрын
awesome video man I loved it
@llamarancza
@llamarancza Жыл бұрын
Keep tour content up king👑
@jarate8076
@jarate8076 Жыл бұрын
it's a thing that happens in DarkRP, Roblox Border RP and nearly anything that brands itself as an "RP" game, these people don't actually know what an roleplay is. They think you can just add a ton of features to mimic the game and then have people narrate it, but usually that attracts people who actually play the game, they don't wanna roleplay, they just wanna play the game with added elements. Real roleplays often have you imagining or self-managing the things there.
@ertanman
@ertanman Жыл бұрын
How the hell does this channel only have 1.6k subs this video is good quality and old videos.
@AdamZNC
@AdamZNC Жыл бұрын
This channel is about to blow up.
@holydoggo4822
@holydoggo4822 Жыл бұрын
for good geopol rp, there are many discord servers which host them. Either a more standard geopol rp for a 1936 start date, a more niche date like 1812 or one of the bigger ones like TNOrp set in the TNO setting. HOI4 is NOT a good medium for rp, its barely even a good war game.
@hazardouskiwi5944
@hazardouskiwi5944 Жыл бұрын
this is a great channel dude
@richardnixonpog9925
@richardnixonpog9925 Жыл бұрын
Your video style reminds me a lot of Rosencreutz's style. Very well done, and I completely agree on the RP front. It's hard and most of the time complete bullshit
@mujtaba215abbas
@mujtaba215abbas Жыл бұрын
Holy shit this video is soo good man keep it up 👍
@Benekon
@Benekon Жыл бұрын
Didn't you quit? Whatever, happy for such amazing videos again.
@CreamTheEverythingFixer
@CreamTheEverythingFixer Жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd say this, but the KZbin algorithm actually did something good. This dudes channel has blown up from the very nice quality vid.
@ythunderboy8694
@ythunderboy8694 Жыл бұрын
Knew i recognized the voice, goated?
@Sasputa
@Sasputa Жыл бұрын
Noticed curls around the 3 minute mark. You're now my new favourite KZbinr
@brunitoforrester
@brunitoforrester Жыл бұрын
god this is one of the best videos ive ever watched on youtube haha
@dolxy9323
@dolxy9323 Жыл бұрын
please do more of these along with your scenario videos
@Deaglan753
@Deaglan753 Жыл бұрын
A good RP game made by paradox would be stellaris, you litterally get a chance to write your own history and craft your civilisation as you see fit which gives alot of free choice to do where as people who rp in hoi4 may try and keep to what happened in ww2 or follow a way that happened irl to justify their goals, though stellaris can also be abit finicky at times and good players may dominate aswell it's still a solid pick espically when you get too the end game
@SilasPT
@SilasPT Жыл бұрын
Honestly i think that's a inherent flaw with "RP" multiplayer video games is there is always gonna be someone better at just "playing" their nation. More mechanics in a RP game were you have a "goal" (even if made up by yourself) also means more oppertunities for people to outplay their contemporaries though the use of those mechanics.
@Deaglan753
@Deaglan753 Жыл бұрын
@@SilasPT there are also origins in stellaris, for example the "here be dragons" origin spawns a sky dragon in your capital that has 50K power, granted it can easily be killed but if you build a decent size fleet aswell as defences then you can easily defend your capital and later down the line end up controlling he dragon There is also scion which makes you a puppet of a fallen empire and will periodically give you OK stuff for free, Another thing in stellaris is you don't know how strong someone is entirely, or how big they are, or even where they are until you find them, you need to use your spies to figure out if they will be easy or not
@JaxDaBest
@JaxDaBest Жыл бұрын
Huh, another Goated Channel. Great video though!
@ZarkinDrife
@ZarkinDrife Жыл бұрын
Bro woke up and dropped a masterpiece.
@leontes
@leontes Жыл бұрын
good stuff, keep going, yes yes yes go gogogogogog, more more more keep going gib more more
@bruhman1789
@bruhman1789 Жыл бұрын
Goated channel 2.0
@user-qx8kf3st8t
@user-qx8kf3st8t 11 ай бұрын
I have a few friends who like HoI4 and we get together from time to time to play RP. Yes, someone has problems with the Internet, and in principle time goes on for quite a long time, because we all need to have time to do everything, but in general it's fun. The most important thing in playing with friends is that there are no hard feelings and arguments (most of the time). That's why I avoid playing with strangers, at least in similar games where PvP is a priority.
@llhammer3075
@llhammer3075 Жыл бұрын
I get you When I started playing multiplayer I played roleplay and I have done so for 2 years now. In the beginning it was fun and new to me but the more I played the less roleplay I did because now nobody wants to do the quirks of roleplay, people know the mod they form a meta around it and games get competitive. On the server I play roleplay has become a small thing, just something you are forced to do by the rules. In my case I don't need to roleplay because I know everyone who I'm playing with so why not casually ally them and win, no in between stress needed. It just became awkward to roleplay after I got used to everything. But don't get me wrong, it's still very fun, especially when you know how everything works and you win. You get the communication, goal and every changing landscape you have still top all other ''game modes'' in hoi4.
@duskworker8469
@duskworker8469 Жыл бұрын
very good point, also the reason i refuse to play any mod, is because the people who made the mod and everyone who plays in that server know the best meta for the mod
@anglaispizza8179
@anglaispizza8179 Жыл бұрын
GOATED IS BACK?
@stevemc01
@stevemc01 Жыл бұрын
1.47k subs already. We’ve found the Timothy Dexter of the KZbin algorithm.
@goateddd
@goateddd Жыл бұрын
I don't like the fact that when i searched him up i instantly saw 'The Dumbest rags-to-riches story of all time', but ty lmao
@stevemc01
@stevemc01 Жыл бұрын
@@goateddd I mean you got insanely lucky with the algorithm. That’s how the original Dexter got famous lol. He had some rich friends who didn’t like his growing wealth, so they fooled him into doing ruinous things to destroy his wealth… …which by divine intervention of sorts always turned a profit. Definitely something I recommend you see.
@goateddd
@goateddd Жыл бұрын
@@stevemc01 Oh nah, obv i disagree with the luck part. KZbin has a lot of skill to it, believe me.
@stevemc01
@stevemc01 4 ай бұрын
@@goatedddIt’s been a while and I happened to stumble upon this comment again. I will admit I was wrong.
@OlenAutumn
@OlenAutumn Жыл бұрын
Goated despite trying to quit hoi4 just couldn’t and I love it
@goateddd
@goateddd Жыл бұрын
🥶
@Oggen_
@Oggen_ Жыл бұрын
only one word can describe this channel accurately enough. "underrated"
@jackeinessontjader5291
@jackeinessontjader5291 Жыл бұрын
Facts
@Unfrozn1
@Unfrozn1 Жыл бұрын
ong bro no cap dennis would approve
@Average_Enjoyer1
@Average_Enjoyer1 Жыл бұрын
U r goated reborn?
@goateddd
@goateddd Жыл бұрын
Yup
@AzurblauHD
@AzurblauHD Жыл бұрын
Very good video, very relatable!
@scoopidywhoop7484
@scoopidywhoop7484 Жыл бұрын
"I often saw veterans, extremely good players" *shows 2,5k hours* Me with 6k hours and dogass at competitive😶
@garox5124
@garox5124 Жыл бұрын
Great video !
@xboxleep6484
@xboxleep6484 Жыл бұрын
You are goated at this game if you know what i mean
@deversusorg2075
@deversusorg2075 Жыл бұрын
Aw hell nah man dont trust this bruv , hes a well know hacker that did nothing else than ruining mp hist lobbies , threatening big hoi4 youtubers and other forms of smuckery
@goateddd
@goateddd Жыл бұрын
I did that when i was 15, im 17 now. It's pretty clear if you open your eyes i am nothing like that anymore :skull:
@deversusorg2075
@deversusorg2075 Жыл бұрын
>Threatens to rape tommykay s gf >Buh buh that wus 2 yuirs ago im a changed man now :((( Both you and me know that you havent changed in the slightest , aside from voice and appearance. You can hide but you will always be found
@quan-uo5ws
@quan-uo5ws Жыл бұрын
I had a friend who had such a bad pc that every multiplayer game he joined would just crash, we made him join a tommyk lobby just to see what happens, and the whole lobby crashed lol
Nerd invades me, instantly regrets it.
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