The FlopStopper Roll Reducer

[@howardduboe7005]

What a great idea. I’d never heard of this product before. Thank you.

[@sailingavocet]

Of course! Hope it proves useful for you. If you order one be sure to mention the Avocet crew :)

[@MustadMarine]

Adds about an hour to the post-anchor routine. So, if anchoring for a weekend or longer I can see value in it. I have never favored the over the side devices for the reasons mentioned (ie chafe). Simpler devices like a bucket with holes and rocks in it work effectively too. The worry in upsizing the 'stopper' is in the intermittent loads it transmits to the pole/halyard or pole lift. This is especially true if the line takes a 90-degree turn out of the mast and adds chafing to the mix. But something like this is almost required for anyone sailing the Pacific (esp Marquesas). Nice short vid.

[@sailingavocet]

It only adds an additional 10 minutes for us, and yes! After sailing a good chunk of Southern California and Pacific Mexico on the outside of Baja we can attest to the necessity to assure a good night of sleep haha!

[@richardgoldklang8835]

We were sailing in the med on a Dufour and we had side on waves making the boat role a lot at night, I came up with the bucket on the rope idea, tied two buckets to an extended boom. Come the morning my wife said "i now know why this boat is called a dufour - you need to do four buckets." so limited success. On the way home did some solid research and one suggested method I found was rope from stern to anchor rope and then winch the stern rope till the boat faces into the waves. Never tried it but sounds like it might work,

[@sailingavocet]

worth a shot!!

[@joedonnelly9487]

The notion of it is really helpful. I can see the price being a bit of a barrier given all the repair & upgrades boats need.

[@sailingavocet]

Absolutely agree, it’s definitely an investment but fortunately there are a lot of DIY options as well. In retrospect this is not a product we would have sprung for immediately due to the price point but after using it we both agree it would be worth the investment. It’s a great design, easy to stow and absolutely helps take some motion out of the ocean 😝 if you have any questions feel free to reach out to John, he’s quick to respond and full of knowledge www.FlopStopper.com

[@pacifico4268]

The only concern I'd have regarding any flopper stopper is additional wear on one's rig. What do you think about this?

[@sailingavocet]

These systems have been used by sailors for years, if your rig is that fragile I think there’s bigger concerns! You can also hang over the side and tie off to a deck cleat. John is quick to respond to questions if you want to drop him a line :) www.FlopStopper.com

[@CalicoSkiesSailing]

Cool product!!

[@sailingavocet]

We sure think so :)

[@AlienX69]

Excellent product, need to see a test with two (2). One port on spin pole the other starb with main boom with a little more rollers. Call'em up tell them to send you another one .... 😁

[@sailingavocet]

We did a test with two and currently have two in our possession. Personally it worked better for Avocet with the one off of the spin pole but we have heard other people having success with two deployed off of each side.

[@AlienX69]

@@sailingavocet Thanks ... Fair Winds guys ... luv yur channel

[@Spoon279]

Do you have to hop to the shop to stop your flop, or can you do it yourself? *Sorry, couldn't help myself*

[@sailingavocet]

bahaha oh man, thank you for the laugh :)

[@AlexGoesSailing]

I need something like that on Meraki! Small boats roll like crazy.

[@sailingavocet]

absolutely!

[@13alexcccc]

I didn't believe it. but it really works. even on the open sea without an anchor. in a wave of 1.3 meters. I took a big bucket. even it worked a little. yours will 100% work. I'll try to do it myself. If it doesn’t work out, I’ll order from you. thank you very much for the idea :)

[@sailingavocet]

it's pretty neat

[@raymondmendez8092]

good product .. why not use it from the Boom ?

[@sailingblackphoenix4974]

Cool invention

[@sailingavocet]

Isnt it?

[@CDNRower99]

Nice that the inventor's a neighbor, but that price is outrageous.

[@sailingavocet]

It’s a bit up there, huh? John knows it’s an investment, and is kind enough to offer other DIY solutions as well since he has a lot of experience while creating this unit. Definitely worth chatting too! If you ever do decide it’s financially feasible for your boat mention our channel and you’ll get a discount. Stay safe out there! :)

[@johnq.public2621]

Quality products aren't cheap, you get what you pay for.....

[@13alexcccc]

Does it work in the open sea? For example with stopping in waves 0.8 with the side to the wind. (Fishing) Will it work?

[@sailingavocet]

Not sure… I don’t see why it wouldn’t though

[@13alexcccc]

@@sailingavocet can you do a test with video? ^_^

[@benlindner5285]

Hi Marissa and Chris thanks for the video. I have been thinking about adding flopper stoppers to my equipment list and glad to see your demo. I was under the impression that you needed to use them in pairs to limit roll in both directions. Is it correct that you have found using only one to do the job for you? Thanks, Ben S/V DAWN

[@sailingavocet]

Hey Ben! We only use the one off our spin pole. You get 3x the efficiency hanging it off a spin pole as it moves the centerline thus reduces the roll. Some people do use two but in our experience one worked best for us. Hope this helps! :)

[@benlindner5285]

So what is the discount, I didn’t see any mention of it on the web site? Hopefully in the range of $500! Thanks Ben S/V DAWN

[@sailingavocet]

@@benlindner5285 LOL! Great question... I’m actually not sure! Johns email is on the website, and he should be able to answer all of your questions and concerns. He’s a great guy and full of knowledge when it comes to not only his FlopStopper but DIY versions and how to better suit your boat. Thanks for being so interactive with our comments, we love to see it!

[@Eddie-jr6bs]

I’ve never seen one used in pairs. We use one (different brand) setup like in the vid. That’s how they work.

[@johngriffith9275]

using 1 unit on one side slows the up-roll, most often enough so that it takes the boat out of the wave cycle so that the hull is moving in opposition to the next wave and "cancels" it. if you have 2, that works great, as the roll is dampened in both directions as you note. however, in some deployments, it works best to hang both (if you have 2) on one side to achieve that "wave cancelling" effect. each flopstopper is good for about 15,000 lbs displacement (when hung off the center cleat), about 2x to 3x that when hung out farther on a pole (lever arm).

[@paulklein6962]

Wow, US$799.!!! I made one from scrap material, cost me nothing, just a bit of time. It lasted 30 years and still in good condition when I sold the boat 2 years ago. Hope they paid you well for the promo!!

[@sailingavocet]

That's awesome! The owner of the company is a neighbor of ours and gave this to us to test. He actually has a lot of good insight on how to build your own since he understands that his unit is an investment :)

[@benlindner5285]

Yup I was more than a bit surprised at the cost as well. However it is obviously a quality product and let’s face it it seems that everything in the boating world is expensive. Have you priced marine diesel parts recently!

[@patrickroman3766]

Was looking to order and $799 was expensive. Now they're $950. Didn't see anywhere to put a discount code though.

[@johngriffith9275]

I encourage you to price the materials and machining. I agree they are quite expensive but, hello it's not 1970 anymore. having said that, lots of good DIY options out there...

[@southernfriedkiwi7726]

I'm interested in whether these things work better if they are deployed further out from the boat, or closer in and tied to a cleat.

[@sailingavocet]

Glad you’re curious! I wrote an article for Sailing Magazine: sailingmagazine.net/article-permalink-2359.html

[@sailingavocet]

Short story: They work best the further out you can put them

[@southernfriedkiwi7726]

@@sailingavocet Cheers mate.

[@annafraley5388]

W O W ... You Really can learn something New everyday, Never heard of them, how cool 😎

[@sailingavocet]

Pretty neat, huh? :)

[@annafraley5388]

@@sailingavocet VERY neet, and we Don’t understand WHY we had never seen them before, being as they work so great...!!👍✅🥳

[@MrGentlebutfirm]

Was the mentioned 10° to 3° reduction for the flopstopper with the unit mounted from the rail or the pole?? I think it is from the pole, but your video kind of suggests (look at sequence..) that it is from the rail.

[@sailingavocet]

from the pole :)

[@TheSnero3]

bucket + chain + rope = free flopstopper!

[@sailingavocet]

Whatever works 🤙

[@SailingSisu]

We do not need a flopstopper, but it was interesting to hear how it works!

[@sailingavocet]

I suppose you dont! You have one built in haha!

[@SailingSisu]

@@sailingavocet 😅 kind of!

[@MVKirk]

I saw a video on Instagram today of a 36 foot humpback that had been trapped in Ventura Harbor and I was wondering if you guys saw it?

[@sailingavocet]

yep! That was a few years ago :)

[@SaimahBintitarmidi]

Very good 👍👍👍💟💟💟💅

[@sailingavocet]

cheers

[@SJMessinwithBoats]

Reminds me of the time my dad took me fishing out there at those islands. 25 foot Sea Ray boat. Caught 4 Rock Bass, but wasnt enjoying those rollers and the 60 degree day. 😀🤢

[@sailingavocet]

Oh my!

[@alllivesmatter627]

If you showed it in action longer, could’ve actually seen something. Especially with the level. The video is not long enough on the level to really notice it.

[@sailingavocet]

Feel free to read the numerous publications I’ve written for Sailing Magazine, SAIL magazine, Good Old Boat etc that discuss this product and products like it. Sailed well over 5,000 nm and wouldby think of leaving the dock without a roll reducer. It makes unbearable anchorages a tad more bearable.

[@patrickroman3766]

Let me know if you're willing to sell your second one

[@sailingavocet]

Will do Patrick!

[@Eddie-jr6bs]

They work. A friend gave me one years ago and we use it every anchor or bumpy mooring. Ours is similar but with two blades and stainless. We set it up on the boom (no spin pole aboard). I like the design you have there. Aluminum (lighter) and more blades. Smaller blades will give it a quicker (more effective) action and let it stow smaller.

[@sailingavocet]

Hey Eddie! Glad to hear you have a similar design that also performs well. Out of all the ones we have tested and researched this design seems to be king. Stay safe out there!

[@SVImpavidus]

And that is why we bought a boat with a modern hull design.... So we can sit at anchor watching the barrell bottom boats do the Star Trek bridge scenes. 🤣

[@sailingavocet]

I guess it is quite literally whatever floats your boat, but we have plenty of friends with "modern" hull designs that use flop stoppers as well since they typically have more windage that causes the roll instead of the swell. This is just another handy tool for boaters (sailing and motor) to keep it fun and comfortable.

[@johnq.public2621]

@@sailingavocet Facts!

[@benlindner5285]

I am curious what boat do you have? Thanks

[@aristoskk9961]

this is a good product for my non-sailors friends. Not actuall sailiors

[@sailingavocet]

How is it not good for “actual” sailors? We have cruised all of California, sea of Cortez and mainland Mexico using this and it has helped with rolly anchorages tremendously.

[@winterroadspokenword4681]

A good design but highly over complex build which makes the cost what it is.

[@sailingavocet]

The manufacturer offers online plans to make your own if that's the route you choose to go

[@gerritscharke4109]

Bucket, Rope… 20 Bucks

[@sailingavocet]

Whatever works, works 🤙

[@gerritscharke4109]

@@sailingavocet Yes. As we all know. In our world of Yachts you can spent millions for gadgets and this you presented is one of these.

[@christophermetz9196]

Hi marissa how are you

[@sailingavocet]

Hey Chris! Stay safe out there

[@cody481]

Congratulations you replaced a stick,a rope, and a bucket for only $500.

[@sailingavocet]

Whatever works!

[@13alexcccc]

Why are there only a few videos about this product? Take at least 10 videos.... and then if the product is indeed excellent... you will have a lot of orders.

[@sailingavocet]

Because it’s a small company

[@13alexcccc]

@@sailingavocet Advertising is the most important. It doesn't matter if it's a small or large company. I'll tell you the truth... I'm debating whether to buy or not. Because there are almost no videos. Looks suspicious.

[@sailingavocet]

@@13alexcccc I tried to help them with advertising (that’s my business) but they didn’t see a need. 🤷🏻‍♀️ we highly recommend it, but you do you

[@6800891]

It shouldn't cost $1000.00 to make, even in the US. It is a collection of metal parts produced by a machine. Typical boat gouging.

[@sailingavocet]

Made by a boater for boaters :) marine grade metals and metal work is an investment. If you can do it yourself for cheaper then go for it! 🙌

[@6800891]

Well, regardless of its value, it lured me to your channel and I am now a subscriber as I like yalls content. Cheers!

[@sailingavocet]

@@6800891 Welcome aboard! :)

[@JohnMaxGriffin]

Make it yourself for less if you think you can

[@johnsmith-tr3dh]

being born in to money must be nice . . . .

[@sailingavocet]

Must be. Wish we could relate 🤷🏻‍♀️