The Fly that KILLED Fly Fishing?!?

[@JaimeBlanco666]

Fourth fly fishing video I’ve ever watched in my life. lol. A few minutes ago I searched “what is fly fishing?”

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for checking this one out, Jaime, and I am wondering: What were the other four?!? ;-) Happy New Year and if you are interested in getting into the sport, shoot me an email with any questions: [e-mail] Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@timbillings6884]

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[@pawoodsnwater7551]

Flyfishing has such a HUGE learning curve, getting a tight line on no matter what fish is such a thrill. You talked about steelhead and salmon and nobody feels guilty about using attractors for them, also nobody gives anyone grief for a foul hooked fish which occasionally happens when using a tandem rig when trout fishing but not a peep when it happens often for steelhead and salmon. We all have our preferences as long as they don’t turn into prejudices. For me , the Globug is mostly a staple on my tandem rig, but usually a realistic nymph is on the rig also, which many a times, outfishes the Globug. I love all my flies in all my boxes, but the one I love the most is the one that’s in the fishes mouth at the end of my line. Have fun and enjoy this great sport.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for taking the time to comment, and the learning curve is no joke! Over thirty years in and I'm still learning, which is one of my favorite parts of the game. Trust me, there is talk about the use of indicators for any species, though I feel that we've been moving away from those discussions over the past few years. The beauty of fly fishing and tying is that there are MANY lanes to choose from and each fisher is free from others' thoughts and opinions when doing so. More importantly, you mentioned some effective flies, but has there been one that killed fly fishing for you, no matter how short of period of time? Happy holidays! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@pawoodsnwater7551]

@@TimCammisa I’m not a big fan of squirmy wormys and the mopfly, although I’ll occasionally use them when all else fails and I really don’t catch many fish on them, but I see other guys do. It’s Hard feeling that tug between traditional flyfishing and keeping up with the changes. Really, I don’t think any fly would KILL flyfishing for me, flyfishing gives us diehards life, if I ever felt that way about a fly, that fly wouldn’t be in my box, that I can assure you.

[@TimCammisa]

@@pawoodsnwater7551 Ha ha, I think you may have misinterpreted "kill fly fishing" with the video! By it, I mean has there been a fly that worked so well, even for a day, you nearly felt guilty? For example, I had one afternoon with a Black Ghost streamer that I will ALWAYS remember. Nearly every cast for 30 minutes produced a rainbow trout, and when I made three casts without a fish, I thought something was wrong! The next cast got me back into a fish and that continued until I realized that I was nearly an hour late to pickup my sister. I so desperately wanted to share my. experience with others (this was WAY before the time of social media!), but didn't know how I could do so without disclosing the "killer' fly...that Black Ghost. Times have changed, as I shared that pattern on KZbin years later: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppi4n4N6a6-geLs Even if not feeling guilt, I was hoping this video would encourage others to share some of the memorable experiences that help to define the sport for each of us. Thanks again, and hope all is well. Tim

[@jhauser2105]

I dont understand this at all...on any level. I give the fish what they want, not what I want. If thats sucker spawn so be it. Ill tie some tin foil in a knot around a hook and fish with that if its working.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comment, and do you have a "stopping point" for flies? Spinner blades, rubber bodies, scented material? Or is it all fair game to you? Thanks for taking the time! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@sog4646]

Caught a ton of spring steelhead on sucker spawn. Wish i could tie them as well as the ones i bought 20 years ago.

[@DaveOuellette-BuzzYourBrand]

I guess but ... that's hardly fly fishing

[@mapleholler9800]

I'm with you J Hauser. I get out so seldom and when I do, I don't always catch fish. So, I'd cut a piece of hot dog and put it on the hook, if I thought it would catch something. AND, when I catch something worth the effort, I take it home, cook it up, and eat it. I love fresh caught fish. Fresh or saltwater.....trout, salmon, bass, walleye, pan fish, catfish, flounder, spot, whatever.......I like 'em all.

[@dandenrode]

@@TimCammisa Nope. I've tied micro spoons and spinners on to fly tackle many times. I like using fly tackle more than spinning tackle but I don't really care what's on the tippet end. I've even used bait on a fly rod before and it was awesome.

[@twsdlbh]

When I have a fly that is getting hit every cast to every other cast, I fish it until I lose it or it wears out.

[@joncasey8077]

Drive it like you stole it!😂

[@twsdlbh]

@@joncasey8077 you mean fish it like you stole it then go home and tie 20 more lol.

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, now that's more like it! So any specific flies that you have "fished like they were stolen" you're willing to share? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@twsdlbh]

@@TimCammisa honestly, the flys I normally tie are made from chicken feathers that you get from regular farm chickens. Some of my summer favorites are over sized nymphs tied on a streamer hook with a bead head. I used overly large hackle for a streamer effect that is similar to a skirted jig. The morrish hopper is a top water favorite of mine. Winter I like to tie nymphs on a size 10 nymph hook with a black body and silver ribbing. This pattern is great for any kind of pan fish, even crappie will eat it.

[@johnmccready6752]

Long term sub here. About 8 years ago I retired to a remote lake filled area here in B.C. I fished my whole life but was saving learning to tie till then. Your videos greatly aided this process. I agree with the purists and the most casual of fly users. The tug is the drug after all. This year I developed a micro leech that out fished every fly in my boxes. I will not stop trying every thing logical though. tying a fly that catches fish is an irreplaceable pleasure .Oh, by the way I clicked on this video to learn how to tie this fly! Lol. Thanks for what you do Tim.

[@TimCammisa]

Hi John and I'm happy to have helped. Your thoughts are shared by many and it's great to know that you keep pushing yourself to try new patterns. That Micro Leech sounds killer and I'd love to see a pic if you'd share: [e-mail] I am working on a video for the tying of the Sucker Spawn so stay tuned. Thanks again and Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@TimCammisa]

John, the tying video is now live! Link: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHzYmJ6ne82Shrc

[@brucevansickle2645]

Decades ago, I was stationed at NAS Whidbey Is. Washington. About half an hour from base was a fly fishing only lake, Pass Lake, in Deception Pass State Park. The premier fly for the lake was a leech pattern. It was trolled behind whatever rowed small water craft one used, on full sinking fly line. I caught and released numerous trout using that fly. At the time, I was a novice fly tyer. I tied numerous patterns of varying couldn't by a hit! I had to take a break!! So, I switched to searun cuts on different wet flies. But...when I needed a fix. I always returned to Pass Lake.

[@TimCammisa]

Great story, Bruce...and you better invite me there someday! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@michaelrios6705]

I used live red wrigglers on my fly rod for trout. Did I feel dirty? Yes. Did I get skunked? No.

[@TimCammisa]

No need to feel guilty, just another way to fish. Thanks for taking a moment to comment. Into fly tying too? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@Jtdm-zg5lc]

The one good thing 2020 brought this year is you hitting 20k subscribers

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the kind words and that number is absolutely crazy! I honestly still remember when I cracked 50 subscribers. Thank you for taking the time to leave a comment and Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@randymorris8740]

I'm not a purest, I'd use a hot pink hellgrammite fly if I thought it would get a bite... LOL

[@TimCammisa]

So I'm sure you won't be surprised that I have a stonefly which features, you guessed it, HOT PINK! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@rockymountaintrout2689]

Yeah honestly I dont even care if people spincast as long as they treat the fisheries well, and are also delicate with fish

[@rockymountaintrout2689]

@Masterpiece Tools huh

[@flyfishny1035]

I can tell you the fly that “ KEPT” me fly fishing... and is still my go to when I can’t get a rising trout to take my fly! The “Griffiths Gnat” The fly that saved me from quitting this great sport many moons ago 😂. I do feel guilty at times with my Sawyer “Killer Bug”

[@TimCammisa]

AWESOME thoughts on the Griffith's Gnat, as that has been a winner for me over the years. Many finicky fish can't resist it, from New York and Pennsylvania all the way to Montana. Appreciate the thoughts, and I'm curious if you have a specific story you can share with it? I remember a sunny day in the summer on a cold tailwater; a pod of large brown trout rejecting everything for about 45 minutes. The Gnat came to the rescue and I landed three before the pod dispersed. I vividly remember hooking the last one while I was on my knees (trying to stay out of their vision), then immediately jumping up and running downstream so I could keep the pressure of the water on them to help out with the 6x! Thanks again, and hope you have a great holiday season. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@fudd126]

I feel if you tied it and you have a fly rod it’s legit. No matter what pattern. The mop fly saved the day many times. For me it’s all about catching Fish

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comments, and I have a feeling there are many who agree with that reasoning. So are there any items you won't place on a fly, such as spinner blades, or a worm tube? Hope all is well! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@thomasw_]

@@TimCammisa Or flesh? If it's all about catching fish, any bait would be OK... or do not you place any limits on your flies?

[@vk3act]

You know what bro? I don’t care what fly it is, if it catches trout, I will use it!

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for commenting and many fly fishers have thoughts to yours. So do share...what fly is a killer one for you? Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@sp3_outdoors]

that's why i keep a panther martin in my fly kit

[@jamesvatter5729]

The "Hot Glue Egg" is definitely my fly fishing eye roller.

[@TimCammisa]

A fly "tied" out of hot glue?!?! Egg flies in general may turn an eye or two...but they work! I haven't fished that egg, James, is it a killer for you? Thanks for sharing! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@andrewsadler202]

It's like throwing a single egg presentation, as opposed to a cluster. Slide a bead on a scud hook. Build a thread damn in the mid shank, and set the bead on it. Use a glue gun to add a ball of glue around it in white, orange, or pink. Can be translucent or solid color. Keep it rotating as it cools, and when it stops sliding everywhere, drop it into a cup of cold water. So there is tying involved at the second step, and you are still managing the material buildup. It's like throwing a single egg pattern instead of a cluster of eggs. Can see where he is coming from. But I also know I can turn out five to eight clown eggs with eggstacy materials in the time getting one to two glue eggs if actually bothering to add weight to the pattern.

[@TimCammisa]

@@andrewsadler202 Oh, I know all about that one, Andrew, it gained popularity a number of years ago. I have never used the hot glue egg, though not opposed to the idea. When it comes to the build-up of materials, there are many being tied today with UV resins that are layered; similar idea with a different end product. I love the creativity involved and can't wait to see more of it in the future! Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@paulkarch3318]

This happened some years ago when smoking cigarettes was very common and I was still a young kid. I was fishing for a few hours and didn't catch anything and I was standing on a bridge over the stream. I noticed a filter cigarette butt on the ground. I picked it up and sort of tore the filter apart with all the fibers fluffing out. I threw it in the stream and it floated for about 2 sec and WHAM.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing, Paul, and I bet most have a story like this. In reality, we're attempting to catch a fish with a brain the size of a pea. When they're hungry and in the mood to eat, they'll eat. It's up to each of us to decide what our preferred method is, with an exception being regulated sections that are designated "fly fishing only" or otherwise. I have some creative flies, though have yet attempted to mimic a cigarette butt! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@GeorgeSemel]

Pom Pom ball egg fly. Saw some in a craft store that was fairly small so I bought some. The tying is sticking them through the center and over a drop of super glue. A 6 mm pink one got me into the biggest brown trout I have ever caught to date on a fly rod. I felt like I cheated for some time. But I got over it. I have been fly fishing since I picked up a rod in 1963! A lot of things have changed in the sport since then. It was voodoo when I started, now the flow of information and instruction is widespread and accessible. Nobody spends the first 10 years working it out in a hit and miss fashion. It's winter, it's cold and it's also what I like to call junk fly season. Till it warms up again and the Early Black Stone flies start showing up in the late Feb.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing, George, and I have purchased those same eggs! Glad to hear you had success with them, especially with that brown trout. Did you use any weight on them, such as a bead, or on the tippet? Thanks, and have a great holiday season. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@GeorgeSemel]

@@TimCammisa Split shot and a strike indicator ( bobber). I don't do a whole lot with beads. I find it easier to just adjust the amount of weight with split shot. Casting has to be a more open loop. My rods are not as stiff as the current models. To stiff in my opinion. I suppose you could put a bead on a hook and then stick a pom pom ball behind it. I don't know why you would want to but you could.

[@SHTFchef]

I have a similar experience with a #12 orange stimulator. Its almost always good for a fish or two.

[@joeduca8582]

If I can tie it and fish it I'll use it. Tim, Merry Christmas and Happy, Healthy New year to you and your family. What's on the menu for the Eve, you do the 7 fishes? Take care buddy. :o)

[@TimCammisa]

Hey buddy! Good to hear from you, and fish away! We are skipping the full feast this year, as just Heather, Angelo, Fina and me eating away. We'll have a few fish, but the full family will be back next year for the FEAST! Hope all is well with you, and Buon Natale! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@joeduca8582]

@@TimCammisa Yeah, I miss the old days when nonna and her "helper" sisters made the traditional fare. As long as the family is healthy it's a good Christmas. Buon Natale mio amico!

[@johnnylightning1491]

I don't have a fly that killed fly fishing for me but I was thinking about the mop fly a few months ago and I believe it was your comment about it not matching anything in particular. I disagree. It matches pretty closely a grub you dig up in your lawn. I'm sure these get washed into the river, especially after a hard rain and I'm betting fish look at them as a very tasty snack. They're certainly bigger than a lot of aquatic insects. Probably just me thinking too much. Keep the good stuff coming.

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Johnny, and feel free to disagree! When fishing that fly (and others) in those natural and subtle colors, I fully believe that reasoning; what about when fishing it in bright pink, chartreuse, and hot orange? ;-) To be honest, I am pretty sure all of us addicted to tying and fly fishing overthink EVERYTHING, but that's what makes this fun. Part of my belief with that pattern is that it has a soft consistency, giving it the feel of something edible as fish are munching away. They hold onto it a tad longer than other flies, therein lies part of its effectiveness. The other piece we forget is that trout are constantly trying items all day long; their survival depends on it. The Mop drifts with an erratic action, giving it yet another reason for the fish to try. No matter what they take it (and many other patterns) for, I will continue to use it...and not feel overly guilty! Have a great holiday season. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@jrbass328]

I designed a nymph for my home waters, took me a little bit over a year to get just right, but I finally got the pattern just right this pattern draws fish in like no other I have had weeks of 60+ fish a day on it, people don't believe me until I tie them up a couple. I worked hard on this fly I'm proud if what it can do, just not happy how hard the fish take it, totally ingest it so it's either let the fish keep my fly or take the chance of killing a fish, big c&r guy.

[@TimCammisa]

Congrats on the fly design, and it sounds like you put in some time. I'm sorry to hear about the way the fish ingest the fly, as that would definitely upset me, too. Good luck in your decision with the pattern. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@matthewjordan8452]

I’d have to say my go to fly is a jelly egg in clear with red dot size 16” if nothing else is working trout or steelhead that fly goes on or if I wanna get those few fish under the belt so the rest of the day I can play around with other flies then I throw That on first but def didn’t kill fly fishing if anything made me intrigued to why that fly and can I find others that just turn them on it’s all a learning experience and I share my results with anyone that asks and sometimes I brag great video !!

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the kind words, Matthew...and brag away! I'd love to see a pic of that fly, if you're willing to share. My email is: [e-mail] Thanks for taking the time to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@ColemanSpecial]

A Palomino that nearly takes you to your drag after you tried multiple flies and you don’t remember if you landed the fish? LoL I don’t believe that for a second. A fish like that, I feel you’d definitely remember what happened. Great video though, you’re spot on with how divided the fly fishing community is over these types of flies. For me: if it’s tied on a hook (requires skill), doesn’t use any illegal materials and has some thread and 1 other material, then it’s a fly and go for it! . . . I have a fly like this I found for steelheading and it improved my hook up rate by 10x. Only my close friends and I share the secret of this fly ;)

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Michael, and of course I know the details. For the video, that portion of the story wasn't critical, and here I thought people would be more upset that I accidentally called it that and not a Golden Rainbow Trout...my bad! In this video, I shared the "full story" re: the steelhead in the Mop video, so trust me, the rest of this one will come out in the future. Good catch! ;-) Have a great holiday season. More importantly, we're close friends, right? You can share that fly of yours via email: [e-mail] Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@jimbobborg22]

At Boiling Springs in Pennsylvania, a bridge crosses the stream. And from this bridge, people would throw pieces of bread on the water. And the normally fussy trout living under the bridge would smash the bread. Before I went back, I took a popper hook, loaded it up with deer hair, trimmed it to a white cube. Thus, the bread fly was born. When kids on the bridge threw bread, I tied on a bread fly and it absolutely slayed trout. And since the hook was so big I had to use heavier tippet. I landed every single fish.

[@perryjohnson1701]

I’ve thrown tiny twigs at feeding brook trout in nj, and yes they’ll hit it

[@7StringTom]

Haha. The "Bread fly" is legendary at Boiling Springs! Funny. I used to kill em on so called egg flys but it actually did kill them. I stopped using them and mostly became a dry fly fisher. I say fish however you want. I'm happy to catch less fish if I'm using dry flies. I will say I do use some sunken midge patterns when I can see the action below the surface. I think it's a visual thing for me. It's all good.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comment and story, James, and it comes back to my buddy John Dunn's motto: "Whatever it takes!" Bread fly, worm, egg, or caddisfly imitation...most fish will find a way to say yes. ;-) Hope all is well and Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@JCS_72]

I've tied those wiggly rubber tails on wooly buggers...

[@TimCammisa]

Luckily, the fish don't like them AT ALL! ;-) Thanks for taking a moment to comment, and happy holidays! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@killerbeans86]

I haven't necessarily experienced for myself... but i have run into a few shop owners and guides in Central Colorado that openly hate the Royal Wulff. They sell them, but you get a public service announcement with the purchase. "So you like using a rookie's crutch?"

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, now that is funny! Is the fly THAT effective? I use it occasionally on small streams for wild brook trout and love it because it floats well. I'm curious to find out more thoughts on this one. Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@ochsblogger]

I fish only with these 5 flies: Royal Coachman, Mickey Finn, Wooly Bugger, Stonefly Nymph, Muddler Minnow. That's all that I really need and I don't tie anything else any more. I don't fish egg imitations for steelhead. I've been flyfishing through Canada and Siberia and these have served me well.

[@TimCammisa]

That sounds like a solid list that should work well over. So is there a situation you can vividly remember you were in when one of those flies helped you have a killer day? I'd love to hear about it! Thanks for sharing. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@ochsblogger]

@@TimCammisa I fished the ultimate chalk stream, the Test River in the UK. Only dry patterns allowed. I caught a beautiful brownie on the Royal Coachman Dry, and I had another one on the Stonefly Dry pattern. You have to stop fishing after you catch "a brace" -- their term for two fish. The waterway is divided into stretches, and they have gillies who are the waterkeepers for each section. The gillie has a small cottage on the river where he makes tea for you. It was wonderful to flyfish on the river where flyfishing was invented. Fishing trip of a lifetime.

[@RT42069]

Never understood the hate for egg flies. Any fly is supposed to imitate things that fish naturally feed on. Eggs fall into that category, so what is wrong with making and using flies that imitate them???

[@TimCammisa]

I agree with you completely, though I feel that eggs flies (and others like the Mop) are now considered accepted patterns by most. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@hgj2019]

On my first fishing trip to a famous Colorado river I studied the regs before my trip as I always do. I knew this was an artificial only stretch of river. I was fishing a double nymph - a tiny size 20 nymph dropped off a slightly larger bead head nymph. It was spring, there was young foliage on the trees. On one back cast I barely hooked into the leaves of a small tree. I managed to carefully remove my gear from the leaves with gentle tugging and considered just making another cast but something told me to check the rig for damage. To my great surprise I found that the tiny nymph had hooked an equally tiny caterpillar with a degree of precision I could not possibly have achieved. It was perfectly set up for fishing. I quickly removed the worm before becoming a bait fisher. I found myself trying to imagine how I would explain the worm had a game warden popped up at that moment to inspect my lure.😁 Now, I’m not against bait fishing, but there is a time and place for everything! As if that alone was not funny enough, a story by John Gierach came to mind in which he and (as I recall) Rancid Crabtree had taken a fly fishing purist “sport” on a guided trip. At one point, having caught nothing, the sport complained. Mr. Crabtree responded that he felt certain that the gentleman’s Royal Coachman would benefit substantially from the addition of a red wiggler. 🤣🤣😋

[@jeffnotti9932]

OMG dude. when i was a kid my dad would take us to the cold spring harbor fish hatchery where trout were hatched and grown for stocking.... i learned early that if a trout was hungry it would hit a pebble when tossed in.. it would hit it the first time for sure, maybe the second time to be sure it was a stone and not the third time at all.. so once i started tying i started to under stand the match the hatch thing . It too me years and years to over come the idea that flyfishing was for an elite group of guys in tweed jackets and nickers looking like English gentlemen.. once i started tying which i did before i started with a fly rod, to understand that farmers were tying flys with the feathers from the barn yard and their wives sowing basket. My perspective shifted... This fly you speak of is a BEAUTY.. it is tied very nicely.. The idea of not using a particular type of fly is just DAFT to me . i suppose the same thing was said for czech nymphs too.. Granted not many of us are going to tie like the old timers at hardy that tied the most beautiful and intricate salmon flies with out a vise. Not many of us are going to tie with and with out a vise like Lee Wulff .. waht is is it that Gary Lafonaine said the uglier the file is the better it fishes???? time to bring those guys who wont be caught dead with one of those in there boxes down a few knotche ... J

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comments and thoughts, Jeff, and II was just thinking about Lee Wulff tying those TINY Royal Wulff dry flies...in hand! Funny you should mention that. Back on point, I'm glad to know that you overcame the idea of fly fishing being reserved for an elitist group, as you can undoubtedly guess my opinion of that. With that said, I do disagree, as if someone wants to fish nothing but Catskill-style dry flies during a hatch, good for him or her. I've mentioned this in a few of these comments, which therein lies the beauty of this sport: We're free to choose our own path. If someone doesn't want to have certain types of flies in their box, that's fine...they can send them my way! ;-) Thanks again for the insightful thoughts, and I hope you have a great holiday season. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@lets_fish_already_9345]

I bet modern fly fisherman would pass out if they found out that in the old days of fly fishing people put spinners infront of flies and fished bait on a fly rod.

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, maybe! With that said, my father loves to fly fish, but with bait and other lures. It's his preferred method and I'm glad he loves to use a fly rod. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@SeanMcGeeWebDude]

I don’t understand how a fly that successfully catches fish can “kill” fly fishing for you. Flies that kill fly fishing for me are those that DON’T catch fish.

[@canadianflyfisher3247]

My favorite thing about fly fishing is it makes me feel like a kid again when I caught a fish for the first time. I've done every kind of fishing now except for net and spearfishing and I can say that nothing beats fly fishing.

[@TimCammisa]

Very cool that you've had experience in so many different types of fishing! Thanks for taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@briargoatkilla]

I live on the French Broad/Davidson in western NC. The San Juan worm is definitely frowned upon here. It flat catches fish, though.

[@TimCammisa]

Any ideas why you think it's frowned upon there? I used to hear that in Pennsylvania, though that was a long time ago. I'm sure the Squirmy is not a favorite either? ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@edherrmann182]

For me it was the Y2K. I have no idea what trout see in this pattern. Just a blob of two colors that represents nothing living. But out of desperation to turn a dead fishing trip, it worked up fish into a frenzy. It worked so well I used two at the same time. It don’t work all the time, but on occasion when fish don’t take anything else it worked. Go figure..

[@TimCammisa]

I'm with you on that one, Ed, and there's something about eggs that fish simply love! When I was in Iceland, I wanted so badly to catch an Arctic Char on an egg, but they weren't into them when I was there...trust me, I tried! So tell me about your Y2K, what colors do you use, bead head, size? You know I love the details! Hope all is well and that you have a great holiday season. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@hispeedbullet2661]

The FeatherCraft CrackleBack is the fly I rely on to catch trout in trying times. It’s worked like a champ for me from the western United States all the way to Argentina. If I’m not catching fish, I tie that one on and it at least keeps me from getting skunked. It’s not always the best fly for conditions, but it almost always works where others fail.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing and I've heard similar stories of this pattern from others. Can you give me some additional details on how you fish it? Dry or like a nymph? Favorite water conditions? Size of the pattern? Thanks and Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@2010oblivion1]

I havent fished for a few years but from the ages of 6 to 19 I was out nearly every day. Anyway a mate told me he was a great fly fisher catching all these fish. Turns out what he was doing was basically bait fishing, worm/egg flies etc with an indicator. Seems to have changed alot in the last few years.

[@osks]

Very nicely done!

[@TimCammisa]

Thank you for the kind words, Andre, and I hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@williamt2951]

I started tying and fishing the sucker spawn fly in 1975. It produced on Cattaraugus Creek, Silver Creek, 18 Mile Creek and the Lower Niagara River, all New York State salmon and steelhead waters.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing, William, it's been a great fly for me over the years. Have a wonderful holiday season! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@williamt2951]

@@TimCammisa What kind of camera do you use for your videos?

[@TimCammisa]

I have a few cameras that I use and am happy to share all of that stuff. Shoot me an email for details: [e-mail] Here's a site that shows most of my current recording equipment, which will get you started: www.amazon.com/shop/timcammisa?listId=1THGR4003K93L Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@dominiqueleblanc2193]

I don't have a fly like that yet Tim, but I'm sure one could come up in the near future.

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, well when it does, be sure to let me know about it, Dominique! I hope all is well with you, and have a great holiday season. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@matthewjones7935]

I slay crappie in my neighborhood lake with a chartreuse mop fly.

[@TimCammisa]

Now that sounds DEADLY, Matthew, thanks for sharing! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@barrydelmar6765]

Poppycock, those flies are valid. If i recall the sucker spawn was developed at spring creek in state college to fish behind spawning suckers. It didn't start out as a steelhead fly. Bead heads were considered trash flies at one point and even nymphs. A bunch of old men unwilling to change are the ones who object most to theses flies. Martha, better throw away those wooly buggers, we don't want the neighbors to feel ill to us....

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, well said, Barry. Isn't it funny how things in fly tying and fly fishing get moved around based on how people want to move them? It sounds like you and I are on the same page! Thanks for taking a moment to comment and hope to hear more from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@jeffarmstrong9324]

Always figured it was the green weenie or the dreaded mop fly. With dry flies and trout it’s a little different, the foam ant (so simple) and the Stimulator are two patterns that always pay off in late spring for me. Believe it or not the Adam’s is the least productive dry in my pattern selection.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing, Jeff, and there are a few foam flies that always seem to produce for me, too. The Adams is a winner for many...but you gotta fish it! What about the Griffith's Gnat for you? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@lloydadkins2191]

George Harvey showed me the greenie weenie and disucssed how it was such a good fly on opening day. this was at seven springs years ago.

[@duderoony]

A great chat in there Tim. Me, I just don’t understand the guys that deny any given pattern as legit. As far as I’m concerned, if you put it on a hook and catch a fish it works. End of discussion. How can these people go on about a certain pattern when, in long gone days of yore, bait to catch a fish using a hook bore no resemblance to anything we use nowadays. Time marches on and innovation takes place. It’s called life..... 🤔. I say embrace change and utilise it’s gifts. Thank you for another cool upload dude.

[@TimCammisa]

You got it, though don't interpret my discussion just centering around that style of fly. In a larger sense, there have been other patterns that EVERY fish wanted to eat that given day, making me (and others!) nearly feel guilty. Another example is the Griffith's Gnat, which is a pattern that I don't leave home without. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and I hope you have a great holiday season! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@315punx]

Fly fishing is supposed to be fun. If you feel guilty for using a non traditional fly, you might be a purist. Just have fun and catch fish. If it works it works.

[@annoyingbstard9407]

Over here in Britain Rainbows are reared at hatcheries as they're non-native. A fella tied a "pellet fly" as an imitation of what they're reared on. I won't mention his name as he was banned from several fisheries but it caused quite a lot of outrage at the time.

[@TimCammisa]

I can imagine...and also know of many in the States that do the same. If I release a video of that one, watch out!! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@danielyost9126]

Great video felt Same way when the woolly bugger first came out

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, so I'm not the only one with these thoughts! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@K2mtp]

West fork of the pidgeon NC. Probably my 4th trip fly fishing total, fell in and filled up my waders. Later got to talking to a guy and he gave me three san Juan worms in a ziploc bag. Just before dark I watched that bright pink worm floating down the stream and a stocked 19" brook trout came from under a rock and slammed it. I never had any problem with using junk flies. Haha it wasn't till I realized not every stream isn't like the stream I came up on till I realized that big flashy fies aren't always the ticket.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing, Kenny, and really cool story...especially floating the worm! Do you think they were taken it as a floating inchworm? Or was this the case of freshly stocked fish used to seeing floating food? Glad you enjoyed the day! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@allenc749]

My moment is not necessarily a well known fly. I was fishing in light snow flurry with nothing to show for it, but noticed brook trout rising to snow flakes, ended up with a skunk that day after switching over a dozen flies. I went home and tied up some all white hackle flies, returned to the spot during the next snow and put a hurting on them. I felt so much like a cheater afterwards I never tied the fly on again despite seeing fish continue to rise to the flakes on more than several occasions.... although to this day 1 of those flies is still in my box

[@TimCammisa]

Now that is a cool story, Allen! Those poor fish never stood a chance. ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@martinhodell8465]

size 22 fluorescent orange ant. Deadly on C&R waters. So effective I stopped using it and break it out only in emergencies as it was starting to feel like cheating.

[@TimCammisa]

Now that sounds like a winner, Martin, and I'd love to see your version (if you'll share!): [e-mail] Thanks for telling us about this one and I hope all is well. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@ladonnaedwards3571]

Black with pink spots with a spinner or pink egg pattern seem to work best for trout in my experiences

[@flyman451]

I've been fly tying and fly fishing for over sixty years. I know exactly what you are referring to! I will not have a number of flies I use for steelhead in amongst my trout flies. They are the San Juan worm & the Squirmy Wormie. I won't even tie the Mop Fly.

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, glad I'm not alone...though the Mop and Squirmy have caught me MANY fish! I get it, though, and appreciate you sharing. Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@timbillings6884]

Cool👍 I have been trying and Flyfishing over 53 years! All over US and Canada! Me and my dad used to teach for Trout unlimited! We used to be at the Yellowstone on buffalo ford picnic area every year on opening day july 14th for 22 year's!!! We met Frank Matarelli there he sad we were making the cuttys have a sore mouth and no one else could catch any! 😂 He wanted me to stay at his place and fish with him but we had to leave in two days! 😥 Dad had to drive home and get back to work back in massachusetts! We stayed in contact with Frank and he sent us lots of his tools for tying classes. I still have a lot of them! He had just came out with his famous wip finisher! He gave us two on the river were we were tying at a picnic table. He was a really nice man.. My dad started in 1932 age 7 he watched a man access the street from his home and the man asked if he wanted to learn! Had lots of good fun! All them years boy do I miss them all!!! I could go on and on! Deschutes! 👍👍👍 Good fishing in that river! Silver creek! 👍 I liked the Gibbon river! And Madison! Slide in!!! Well that's enough! ✌️ Flyfishing in Amarica!!! 👍👍

[@brucecox1251]

THE original Sucker Spawn was a match the egg pattern developed in central pa by hard core match the Hatcher’s to catch fish during the sucker spawn period in the spring. From there it evolved into the “junk” pattern it has become today. It was a secret pattern that someone had to show you. I learned from my teacher who was a student of George Harvey early on.

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Bruce, and thanks for the comments. Isn't it funny how a "match the hatch" pattern has progressed through the years? Luckily, I feel that we're starting to move away from this belief in fly fishing that there are even "junk patterns!" More importantly, the draw of fly fishing is that we each get to choose our own path, and that's a good thing! Merry Christmas! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@marktaylor9934]

I like "recycling" trash found while walking my dog by using it in flys (lures?) Sort of a fun challenge

[@TimCammisa]

Sounds like a "win-win" for everyone...including your dog! I'd love to see some of your creations: [e-mail] Thanks for sharing and I hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@craiglewis8981]

I make and use a chamois worm with a hot weighted red bead tied in on stillwater . Get some looks off the purists but it catches me trout. And I've even had other fishermen come up to me to ask for some if they are having no luck and the chamois usually gets them a few fish. So all good

[@TimCammisa]

Absolutely a winner, Craig, and my friend Chuck LOVES to tie and fish leather worms. They are killer, especially for bass. Here's a video of his Bugskin Wiggler: kzbin.info/www/bejne/inmUkpmrisSmpLc Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@dangitBobby74]

Am I missing something? How would an effective fly ruin your day by actually catching a fish? I fished a BWO for an entire morning and caught trout after trout on a 1/2 mile section of my favorite river. My buddy, however, threw his entire arsenal and never hooked the first fish. He was a little sour, but I can honestly say I was very excited. There’s an air of sophistication often associated with fly fishing. I guess fishing the latest trend might be considered untoward.

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Bobby and thanks for taking a moment to comment. You may be missing a tad, as there's a bit of sarcasm in parts. When I have "fish after fish after fish days," I completely soak them in! There are times, however, that it almost doesn't feel right, like it's too good to be true, and the KILLER fly aspect...hence the video. You may have read some of my other replies to the comments and noticed my enthusiasm from the video; my day NEVER gets ruined from catching fish! ;-) Thanks again for taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@timbillings6884]

@@TimCammisa A bead head copper John is a killer! I've cought thousands of trout on them! 👍👍

[@Jgreendyk1]

The San Juan Worm. I knew the fly worked I just refused to fish it. Headed over to Mossy Creek in Va high water, streamers were not working. A friend was catching fish with it so I asked if I could use one( yeah I didn't even carry them) Then proceeded to have a good day for Mossy. I still don't fish the fly as often as I should. For me one I have never fished and don't plan on it is the Game Changer. But that is for personal reasons that has nothing to do with I won't stoop to that level.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comments, Jeff, and glad to know you carry a FEW of them now, ha! Have you tried the newer version Squirmy Wormy? Here's a video of a really fun one to tie and fish: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqLXgYWfhZeha5o Thanks again, and have a great holiday season. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oqLXgYWfhZeha5o

[@dg9388]

I had a similar conversation with my cousin that is really into fly fishing. I'm not really into fly fishing much, but it seems like many fly patterns really blur the lines. Which in my mind is pretty funny since some river sections are fly only. Its like so as long as I wrap some thread around a trout worm its a fly and legit?

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, it's interesting to see how there are patterns that can crossover a bit, and you are correct that the only real place this matters is a fly fishing only section. Luckily in all other avenues of fly fishing and tying, we can choose our own path, and therein lies the beauty of the sport. Thanks for taking the time to comment and hope all is well. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@dg9388]

@@TimCammisa from an outsider looking in I think it is a good thing to be honest. Fly fishing has a reputation of being slightly pretentious. If this reputation is earned, or false is based on personal experience. (Not here to get on my soap box.) I found and mocked the soft plastic worm fly (cant remember the name if it) because it is pretty much the same as what I use when I drift fish. Then I started looking around and bought some nymphs to try. They work very well on a light centerpin set up. Started looking some more. I then got recommended videos from niklaus bauer, and gunnar brammer. The first video I seen from gunnar brammer had a death metal intro. It was fantastic finally a video without acoustic folk music. I found out not all of fly fishing has to be modeled off of "A River Runs Though It." I now have a cheap 9wt, and am starting to tie up streamers. I am doing decent with hooks, tubes for me seem to be a bit of a learning curve. The circumference of the predator tubes throw me off a bit. I think the non traditional flies, and more importantly non traditional personalities are important to have. They may upset folks, but it brings in people as well. It was amazing how many people were salty about metal being on a fly video. Lol

[@TimCammisa]

@@dg9388 Being honest is definitely the key to this one, and no worries about the soap box! So you have issues with my intro music? Joe Clark is an incredible fly fisher and gets the music credit for it. He lives close in the Pittsburgh area and though I've considered some other music during the videos, I'm sticking with my friend. The song is "The Wilderness Experience" and the album can be found here: amzn.to/37JC3Hb Gunnar is also a friend and shares some great concepts in his videos. The death metal? Yeah, that's definitely not my style! ;-) Thanks again and have a wonderful holiday season.

[@dg9388]

@@TimCammisa no issue at all with your taste in music. If I don't like it I just skip ahead. If you look in the comment section of those videos I mentioned though it seems like it doesn't go both ways.

[@dg9388]

@Masterpiece Tools so what are you arguing here? "Real fly fishing" is the only way to not over harvest, or catch and release is? Even if you use nothing but dry flies with completely natural materials what is your tippet made of? Every time you lose a fly you lose some line right? Every time you change flies do you clip the tag end of the knot and put it in your pocket? Perhaps the best thing for the environment is to just all switch to bait. That way we don't have all the farms and processing facilities for making the tanned products used in all natural flies either. Much smaller foot print to grow worms and crickets.

[@fishingthelist4017]

Wooly buggers because I don't have to use a fly rod to fish it. I tie them on ball leadheads and cast them on ultralight spinning gear, usually with a safety pin beetle spinner.

[@TimCammisa]

Now that's a deadly rig! Thanks for taking a moment to share. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@thomasclements2905]

I tye for a flyshop in St. Louis. We got in some Squirmy Worm material several years ago and was asked to tye some up to put in the fly bins. I hit number 9000 (HONEST TO GOD) this past October. I can not bring myself to use one of these. It's a rubber worm tied to a hook. I must retain some dignity on the stream.

[@TimCammisa]

Wow, that's a lot of Squirmy Wormies, Thomas! The beauty of our sport is that each angler gets to choose his or her own path...and you can leave all of the Squirmies to me! ;-) Thanks for taking a moment to comment and Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@gilbertamthor5098]

My killer fly i found 25 yrs ago from a guide in calif. He tied these 20-22 black midges with just a tiny white foam so it would sit low and so u could see it . I have landed so may huge sipping browns on it . I still have a few but never see them in shops.

[@johnlaine6259]

Try this in olive, works great on the juan.🤠

[@gilbertamthor5098]

@@johnlaine6259 cant wait to get back to the san juan. One of my fav. This yr was tough because New Mexico being left of left shut it down big time. So hate when i get covid standing in the middle of a river in the middle of nowhere.

[@TimCammisa]

Sounds like a killer, Gilbert, and here's one that I used that may be similar to what you're talking about: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXW5hKuFn9akmLM I've landed many tricky fish on this one...so I guess I have another "killer" fly to add to the list! ;-) Hope all is well and Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@gilbertamthor5098]

@@TimCammisa oh yea Tim. That is really close. My foam wing is prob a third that size. Really hard to see. But these pesky spooky browns are tough and drift has to be perfect with 6x tip. So the chance of landing these fish is not in your favor. Love the challenge. The take is soooo soft and subtle. Happy New Yr and i really enjoy your vids.

[@dwelch3114]

me and my friends would call this the snickers bar approach. The only thing that you would try is the last thing in your fly box.

[@TimCammisa]

Ha! Nothing wrong with eating your dessert first, right?!? ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@chrislantz4264]

Squirmy wormy for me. I still use it but always feel a bit guilty tying one on. Doesn't help that when I showed a Squirmy a co-worker who's into Bass fishing his reaction was, "Oh, that's just like a wacky rigged Senko".

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, Christopher, the Squirmy is a killer for me, too! I made a similar post on Facebook, and an immediate reply was the Squirmy...and that "it felt greasy," both literally and figuratively! ;-) Thanks for taking a moment, and here's to a great holiday season! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@johnkinsfather64]

I live in California foothills. All of a sudden 2 or 3 of the guys who tie flies for me were pushing a mop fly so I bought them And fished them to death, zip , nothing not a bump so it may be great back East but here does nothing. One of my most disappointing flies.~ JAK

[@TimCammisa]

Sorry to hear that, John, and I alluded to that in the video. There are some specific situations in which they work best for me, though the locations have been from Iceland to Wyoming and everything in between. Thanks for sharing! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@rushthezeppelin]

I have no shame on this stuff. I often run only double attractor rigs when euro nymphing. Heck one time I literally made a turd fly with gorilla glue just to see if pan fish would hit it (and of course they did because pan fish will hit basically anything they can get in their mouths.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing and I love the notion of a double attractor rig! What are some of your favorite attractor patterns? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@Yikes5824]

My lowest of lows during a flyfishing trip was on the San Juan, "nymphing" with just a small red-colored hook that had nothing else on it.

[@TimCammisa]

That certainly fits with the "less is more" mantra! Thanks for sharing. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@raulpadilla9303]

The red hook has always worked on the Juan, red larva!

[@ranamanathabascarohipalepa9297]

Take this thinking to the nth degree we should only use files that never work.

[@ranamanathabascarohipalepa9297]

I just did. Rhetorically.

[@fredbailey2076]

the green blob we called it size 8 hook olive seals fur olive hen hackle yellow thread second fly that the martin ever ties so you can imagine the quality of tying but deadly

[@TimCammisa]

It sounds like the pattern overrode the quality aspect! Thanks for sharing, Fred, and if you ever have a chance, shoot me a picture of the fly: [e-mail] Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@fredbailey2076]

@@TimCammisa it was yrs ago the important part is the quality of tying you dont dub the seals fur on more tie a clump some where on the hook and the colour was std veniard olive using a grade c hen hackle yes it was that bad

[@jeffnelson2197]

Fly fishing can get “snobby” I could care less what other people think about the gear I use. I used to live in The Dalles Oregon and fished the Deschutes River tied my own flies and made a “fly” that was a heavy steelhead hook, barbless, it has a tuff of pink and white yarn and a spun “necklace string” I made of hobby shop fish egg sized and colored Pom poms. Whip tied it and put a drop of salmon egg scent on. It will slam fish, they loved it. Some snobby fly fishers seeing me skunk everyone came to ask what I was using and upon showing them scoffed:”that’s not a fly! That’s bait!” I showed them it in my fly box, truly all artificial materials, looks real though. Still they tried to make me feel bad, it wasn’t “traditional” so I made a another cast and caught a steelhead. Lol! I see it like someone telling me I’m not archery hunting with plastic fletches or carbon shafts. You do you, people, use bamboo and silk line whatever you want within the law. I will do me too.

[@TimCammisa]

I'm sorry you had that experience, Jeff, and I know the west coast steelhead game can be a tad intense. For the steelhead in Pennsylvania, it's more along the lines of anything goes, and like you said, to each his or her own. That's the beauty of fishing, we each get to select our preferred method and have fun! Thanks for commenting and Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@e4t662]

I tried to tie a Stonefly /streamer thingamajig. It.ended up looking like a Frankenstein abortion..Largemouths Looove it.

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, now that is too funny! If you have a picture of the fly, I'd love to see: [e-mail] Thanks for sharing and have a great holiday season. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@naklabtimothy2462]

You are right On­corhynchus mykiss is not a trout, aka rainbow trout, aka steelhead. Salmo Trutta is a true trout. Brookies on the other hand are Char.

[@TimCammisa]

I tend to let the fish biologists take over in this realm! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@jb.flybum8342]

Rubber worms ruined steelhead fishing for me, haven’t tried them, but it’s also been a while since I’ve been able to target them, I’ve been a purest against plastics in general until recently. Didn’t realize they have a shimmer or gloss that’s hard to match with normal fly tying materials until i picked some up and tried them.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comments, Justin, and can you give me more details? It sounds like you didn't use them for steelhead...or did you use them and they were too effective? Either way, what's great about fishing is that you can choose what you want to use, plastic or not! Thanks again. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@geraldg7420]

A blue squiggle tail (taken from the pencil top squiggle toy kids use in school), with black bead chain eyes, in sz10-16, is deadly for bass and bream. Almost indestructible. I left out a couple of details, but know you can guess about the body and collar.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comments, Gerald, and would a "fly" like that even need a body?!? ;-) Hope all is well, and here's to a great holiday season! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@geraldg7420]

@@TimCammisa Yeah, You have to secure the "squiggle tail", with super glue and thread, and cover the shaft up to the collar and bead chain eyes. I use chenille for that. Depending on hook size, that might entail only a couple of turns of chenille. Merry Christmas to you and yours. Keep up the great work! Gerald (The Noslimeslinger)

[@kimwsears]

Match the hatch had been drilled into me for years. The fly that KILLED flyfishing for me was a big blooper from an 'open vise night' with my fly tying club. I called it "Mimi". I used scraps from my tying bag and just started tying. I started with a #14 curved nymph hook, added a orange bead head and a copper wire body. Finding a patch if chartreuse ice dubbing in a baggy, I added it in as a collar and a pinch of hot pink Para Post as a wing. When I ran out of options one day I tied this on and landed 4 nice fish, in a dozen cast, from a single run. See it on my Instagram @rogueriverflies.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing, Kim, and I just checked it out (as an FYI, your Instagram is @rogueriverfly). It sounds like a mix-and-match style...and those flies can be deadly; yours was! I hope all is well. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@Daniel-ow2gk]

If a specific fly can "kill fly-fishing" for you that's kinda depressing. Getting out, catching fish, not catching fish, getting frustrated, seeing some wild places, seeing some wildlife.... how can you not get romantic about flyfishing no matter what's on the end of your line.

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Daniel, and I'm sure you agree with my ending, where I exclaim that "no, a fly can't really kill fly fishing" I love all aspects of it, both the peaks and the valleys...well, more so of the former than latter! ;-) Thanks for the comments and I look forward to hearing more from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@krazygoofadventures8031]

My one palomino trout came on a squirmy worm. Conewego Creek beast at 6lbs. I felt so wrong. Haven't fished one since.

[@TimCammisa]

Oh gosh, Joel, and congrats on the fish. The Squirmy is a pattern that definitely catches both fish and fishers...but it's your choice. I misspoke, as in Pennsylvania, the fish you and I caught is a Golden Rainbow Trout. Thanks for sharing the story, and if you decide to start fishing Squirmies again, good luck! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@krazygoofadventures8031]

@@TimCammisa Tim, tometo tomato. I wasn't going down that path. I hooked a second smaller one that day on a mop fly. The guilt is strong. Won't be fishing gor trout until 2022. I'm stationed on an island where all I can catch are bonefish, permit, barracuda, and giant trevally...its tough but someone has to be here.

[@jamesdearham3056]

i cant identify with this at all. if it works it works and what u use most catches the most fish. it's magic

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comments, James. I'm curious, are you into just fly fishing or do you use other lures and/or bait? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@jamesdearham3056]

@@TimCammisa it depends on where, when and who. under 4°c i switch to centerpin but use my flies, and on lakes in a boat ill switch back and fourth. On the river in summer fly gear only.

[@jamesdearham3056]

ill even use bait if im ice fishing.

[@philipvankampen3394]

3:00 I'm calling BS ;) You'd remember either way ... Just messing with you. Fun vids!

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Philip, and you're not the first to mention this. Of course I know the details! For the video, that portion of the story wasn't critical, and here I thought people would be more upset that I accidentally called it a palomino and not a Golden Rainbow Trout...ha ha! ;-) In this video, I shared the "full story" re: the steelhead in the Mop video, so trust me, the rest of this story will come out in a future video (that I happen to be working on today). Thanks again for the kind words and Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@simonvesterlundguldberg6418]

My experience with a fly that killed a bit of flyfishing for me, is the "white bomber" it's a dryfly that is litterally just a floof with a hook in, and the way you fish it, is that you littrally cast that fly over the head of the fish, and the fish won't bite the first time, or the second or the third and so on, but the way this fly is built, is so annoying for the fish, that no matter what, in the end, they will bite and that just kinda takes the fun out of it af you've caught a couple of fish with it

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Simon, and though I'm unsure about "floof" the fly sure does sound like a fun one. I'd love to see a pic of one: [e-mail] Thanks for sharing this annoying pattern! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@coreystoner4129]

No fly has ruined fly fishing for me. I do agree that the mop fly can dull fly fishing but frankly I don’t care. I love catching fish and I love catch big trout and steelhead

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for the comment, Corey, and I'm sure you get the sarcasm when I say "killed" fly fishing! Hope all is well and have a great holiday season. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@coreystoner4129]

@@TimCammisa all is well. Finished up rifle season and punched my last doe tag. Just gotta fill my buck tag and I will be tagged out for the season. Been tying like a mad man and selling a lot of junk flies

[@TimCammisa]

Glad all is well!

[@callumclark3358]

I remember one of the legends of Stillwater fishing over here from the '50s and '60s ( Arthur Cove, or maybe Tom Ivens ) writing about bloodworm fishing. On one of the big stillwaters, Rutland or Blagdon, nobody was having much success. He tied a section from a little red rubber band ( with the bendy bit in it ) onto a hook. Of course the rubber would bend and unbend as the 'fly' was twitched. Result - absolute slaughter! He and his mates kept it to themselves, but after a while he dumped it. It just made a mockery of the sport. I fish a little river in the north of England. Lately indicator (bung) fishing, and its cousins Klink-and-Dink and Euro nymphing have more or less taken over. Huge numbers of trout and grayling are caught ( and released ) sometimes with a minimal investment of skill! I don't think this is very good for the fish. I'd rather pick up two or three on a dry or upstream nymph.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for sharing, Callum, and I'm curious, did you ever try the red rubber band worm? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@callumclark3358]

@@TimCammisa Er, no. He did it so I don’t have to 😆

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

The Mohair suckered spawn is a great fly, as is the Crystal Meth version.

[@TimCammisa]

Absolutely, Rudy, and have you used one tied out of Angora yarn? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@rudygeorgiamulesandcountry1594]

I've tied them. From Angora, which has a unique look and buoyancy, however; ... Ive tied them from regular yarn from granny's scrap bin too. My favorite ones get two eyes from beaded chain, that adds ljust a ittle weight. They all catch fish .

[@TimCammisa]

Yes they do...thanks for the reply!

[@shanekennedy484]

Vampire Leech has done it for me lol!

[@brandonstover4227]

Oil creek was my home creek. Amazing place to fish

[@TimCammisa]

Agreed, Brandon! Do you still spend much time on the water there? I don't nearly as much, as I tend to fly fish in Central PA a bit more. Thanks for taking a moment to comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@brandonstover4227]

@@TimCammisa I still fish it when i come home to see my parents i am in south central pa now. Had some good days on it last year.

[@jimkinner]

Great video. We Fly fishermen can be a very pretentious and arrogant bunch. There are those who feel that their way is the only "correct and sporting" way to fly fish. Dry fly purists, euro nymphers. and the spay guys are the worst. How dare you catch a fish out of a run on sucker spawn while I have been locking up the the whole of the best pool on the river for 4 hrs rotating my 14 ft spay rod like a ninja with a flies that look like great aunt Tillie's hat pin collection and catching nothing?

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, thanks, Jim! There are many comments here and in some, I am very clear that what makes fly fishing so great is that we're able to choose on our paths. It sounds like you appreciate that stance, too? Your last line REALLY had me laughing! As for the fisher that does want to fish a spey with salmon slies...go for it! Just don't hog the pool for TOO long. ;-) Thanks again for taking a moment to comment and hope to hear from you on some of my other videos. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@jimkinner]

@@TimCammisa Lol. Yes. I always figured the fly rod was the most versatile tool you could have to fish small to mid size creeks and rivers for trout and salmon. What with a well thought out and stocked fly box (or Two ) with streamers, buggers, nymphs, egg patterns , some spools of tippet,, splits, and little floats, You can rig and present for ANY situation. I always found it more than a little amusing how some pigeon hole themselves with a single technique.

[@TimCammisa]

Well said, Jim, thanks!

[@andrewsadler202]

People forgetting the utah killer bug... Yarn and thread and one of the deadliest out there!

[@TimCammisa]

Andrew, stop telling all of my favorite flies!! ;-) I hope all is well with you, and Merry Christmas! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@janicebabin2764]

Man you fly guys are quirkie

[@TimCammisa]

I just love that you called me a "fly guy!" Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@CrimeVid]

If you are fishing horrible great lures like that, you might as well chuck a spinner.

[@TimCammisa]

Well, there may be a slight difference between the two, but thanks for the suggestion! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@davidhowie800]

The go to fly the good old yellow dancer.

[@TimCammisa]

Thanks for commenting, David, and I have never fished that one. Do you have a story to go along with it? Happy New Year! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@bensteer3778]

Never actually tried any of these Junk flies. This has got me thinking though. Not sure if it counts but an f-fly never fails for me.

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Ben and thanks for taking a moment to comment. The F Fly is a great pattern that has fooled MANY fish, do you have a specific story related to it? So I'm curious, what defines a "junk fly" for you? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@bensteer3778]

@@TimCammisa I’m in the U.K. so pretty much anything non traditional can be seen as a junk fly, more specifically I’m thinking mop flies, squirmies and egg patterns. An fly fly story? Well my local stream is known as a difficult technical fishery where tiny match the hatch flies are considered the only thing that works, on more than one occasion I’ve tied on size 14 f-fly and scored under the noses of the sneering masses, doesn’t even seem to matter what the body is. Early in the season when we were allowed back on the river after the first round of lockdowns I got a 2.5lb brown in a stream that usually has 1/2 lb average. Was so unusual I got in the local paper with it............ caught on yep a size 14 f-fly🤘

[@wcslv_6781]

My friend hates fishing with me. When fish aren’t biting I start looking around. I caught fish with twigs, sponges, cigarettes butts, leaves. Just depends on what catches my eye. Let’s try it.

[@TimCammisa]

Ha ha, now that's a tad extreme, but to each his or her own. ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@skyeallan5057]

Try a Booby or a Blob. They ruined fly fishing for me. Still water. That’s all I am going to say.

[@nolanmagary7101]

Arizona Semi Seals.

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Nolan and are you referring to Arizona Simi Seal dubbing? It's great stuff! Have you used it for this style of fly? Any information is appreciate, and you can also email: [e-mail] Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@timmydaly171]

I wonder if some flies are designed to catch fish or fisherman.

[@TimCammisa]

There is ZERO wonder there, Timmy, at least from a fish design perspective. When it comes to what you see in fly shops, then the notion of "bin appeal" absolutely comes into play. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@lewisward4359]

Wooly Bugger here in the FInger Lakes tributaries

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Lewis, and great choice, that fly has been a KILLER for many over the years. Ever fish it in olive? So is there more to the story you can share when using it? Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@carlmoeller56]

My go to is the Mercer's Missing Link. I tie my own.

[@TimCammisa]

Sounds like a winner, Carl, thanks for sharing! Do you tie by the standard recipe or your own variation? If the latter, I'd love a peek: [e-mail] Thanks! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@carlmoeller56]

Hi Tim. I tie this pattern traditional, but different color bodies and Zylinder wings as well as sizes. For example purple body and grey wings to imitate an ISO.

[@themotofirm]

Hell, you divide people by saying Lake Erie fish are steelhead. Can’t win. Throw what you “morally” want to throw and let’s just have fun and enjoy fly fishing 👌

[@TimCammisa]

Way too many divisions in fly fishing. My approach to the sport is simple: Have fun and find your own lane, assuming you're following regulations for the water. Sounds like we're on the same page, enjoy! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@rhabdob3895]

My grandfather would put a tiny rapala on a 7 wt. -that’s not a fly John. -nope. -that’s not fly fishing -are you going to cry? -just saying, jeez.

[@TimCammisa]

There's no crying in fly fishing!! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@Adroit1911]

Them: "Why do you fish that?" Me: "Because I like catching fish." ☺️ Don't know why it's bugging me so much... But the fact that you're distinguishing between steelhead and trout rubs me for some reason. Steelhead are trout.....

[@TimCammisa]

Hi Jameson, and thanks for the comments. Love the "dialogue" though I feel fortunate I don't remember if I've ever been asked that...except by those who don't fly fish, especially during a hatch. Steelhead versus trout, sorry you're taking it the wrong way. Being that I tend to measure the former in pounds versus inches, I feel warranted in doing so, especially as those are the actual situations. Here I thought someone would catch that I said "palomino" when in Pennsylvania they are actually Golden Rainbow Trout! Thanks again for taking a moment to share...and keep fishing the flies that catch! ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@Adroit1911]

@@TimCammisa lol bananas is what I like calling the golden's, palomino just makes me think about horses 😁

[@stephangray2436]

Squirmy wormy

[@TimCammisa]

How can anyone (particularly fish!) say no to that fly, Stephan?!? ;-) Thanks for the comment. Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@MrRickyjt]

Glo Bomb #ontheflynz

[@TimCammisa]

Sounds like a winner, Ricky! Tim www.troutandfeather.com

[@raywilliams6675]

Palomino, Kill the evil yellow bannana. That polarizes me more than any type of fly would. Palomino thing needs to go away.

[@TimCammisa]

Here I thought someone would catch my mistake, as in Pennsylvania they are Golden Rainbow Trout. ;-) Tim www.troutandfeather.com