The Forgotten Founding Members

[@PatrickShubin]

I mostly listen to the albums Terry Kath played on. After He died, Chicago was Never the same. I never went to a Chicago concert after he was gone. Brilliant musician and vocalist

[@905if6was9]

Yeah, Chicago started at the top and worked their way down. After Kath died, it was kind of difficult to listen to Chicago. Some of their old songs still worked live; but the old ones where Kath was prominent on guitar or vocal became impossible to hear.

[@ianramage1593]

I love all three of those featured musicians. I always thought that Terry Kath was a vastly underappreciated guitarist. The solo on 25 or 6 to 4 is epic. I grew up with the Buckingham/Nicks version of Fleetwood Mac, but when I "discovered" the Peter Green incarnation of the band, I was hooked. I grew up in Canada in the 70's, and I always loved B.T.O. Roll On Down The Highway is still my favourite road trip song. Great video! Thanks so much!

[@RiverDocs]

You're welcome. Thanks for watching!

[@boe4448]

RD, Like always you make learning fun. My first concert in 1973 was the Guess Who. As a 13 year old kid it left a impression on my love for RR music. Happy holidays to you and yours. Boe 🎅🎄👍

[@RiverDocs]

Thanks for the kind words Boe. Hope you all have a great holiday season!

[@mrg1911]

Great stuff Doc! Fleetwood Mac Live at the Boston Tea Party is the best that band ever sounded. WAY beyond anything after PG left. And growing up The Guess Who was constantly played on CKLW (Detroit/Windsor) heard throughout the tristate of Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana......great stuff. Still love EARLY Chicago.....An upbeat band with Kath and the horns. Gregg Allman always wanted a band with horns.

[@dustylover100]

I remember CKLW. Great station.

[@Malibu1515]

Really enjoyed this one Doc. One of your best videos. Three of the best ever for sure

[@RiverDocs]

Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it.

[@Malibu1515]

@RiverDocs always do.

[@dennisellis968]

Great stuff Doc. Thanks for sharing .

[@RiverDocs]

Thanks for watching!

[@JorgeCarlosGómez-r9n]

Chicago was one the bands I most loved on the radio, growing up in the 70s.

[@rodneyharouff5739]

yea man! me too! they were GREAT!

[@lindapietrasz8070]

I loved them too, but one summer @ Blossom Music Center I was there and after a few songs, I left. I had decided that they were a studio band because IMO they sucked LIVE. I've gone to many concerts and that concert was the only one I've ever walked out on.

[@vayabroder729]

The great Mr Green is one of the most emotional players in history apart from the obvious blues greats and one of my favorites. Him, Carlos Santana and Paul Kossoff have that quality. Fleetwood Mac evolved into different bands after he left depending on the members at the time; a testament to the greatness of its rhythm section. The amazing Terry Kath was the soul of Chicago; it was never as good after he was gone. What an absolutely devastating group that was with him! Finally, Mr. Bachman, (Gretsch guitar fanboy #1) is so good that he’s been part of not one but two historic bands and he’s still at it!

[@tsitracommunications2884]

Not Katy but kath

[@vayabroder729]

@ thank you for the heads up; it’s the stupid speller on the phone. I’ll edit.

[@ccarley9133]

🤯 In a good way! The fleetwood Mac- I didn’t know any of their early infomation. I have some reading to get caught up on! I’m so glad you added Terry Kath in there. He really was so talented, and I loved the documentary his daughter did. I believe his widow ( now married to Keiffer Sutherland) I really think Terry would have ditched the horns, probably Peter too, and had himself a rockin heavy bluesy k/a band. Just my opinion, but I think his passing was an accident, he had too much to live for. Randy Bachman, so talented . Again- underated, underacknowleged. Insane how you can create and shape so much good music- and not be acknowledged properly…. Great video as always!👍🏻 The time, effort, and info is always appreciated!! ✌🏻

[@RiverDocs]

Thank you kindly. I agree I think Terry was tired of the Chicago thing.

[@ccarley9133]

@ oh I’m going to do both! I just like to know who I’m listening to.👍🏻

[@RiverDocs]

KZbin is deleting all kinds of posts in my comment section..They hold them..then delete them..If you find a post missing try posting it again. Sorry..trying to figure out what the problem is

[@petemarron6677]

My brother bought Not Fragile in 1974 and I was in the fourth grade. Love that record.

[@toddflowers8052]

I had the pleasure to see Chicago in 1973 in Ft Wayne IN it was fantastic and LOUD !!!! I also saw The Guess Who in 1974 at the Ft Wayne IN Coliseum, no Randy but, the best Concert I have ever seen barely beating the Eagles,Steve Miller and Pablo Cruise in 1977 in Chicago IL....I saw BTO in South Bend IN, not sure what year but, it was good but, IMHO not great maybe just a bad night ?Great Documentary brother !!

[@aminahmed2220]

Awesome video support you have a great weekend Doc also I am a fan of Tandy Randy bachman Also Peter Green ❤😊❤😊

[@benallmark9671]

Great piece Doc. Thanks. Happy New Year !

[@RiverDocs]

Thanks and Happy New Year to you too!

[@frankfischer1281]

Knowing the history of good music, and those that created it is as important as knowing the history of any human endeavor. Thank you.

[@RiverDocs]

You're welcome!

[@Vintage_375]

Please do one on Michael Bloomfield. Thanks for the uploads!

[@RiverDocs]

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.

[@baronoflivonia.3512]

Randy Bachman also had a great radio show on CBC Radio 2 called Vinyl Tap. I was able to hear it on Sunday nights because Detroit is actually north of Canada. That Journey song about south Detroit? Must be referring to Windsor Ontario. Great Video.

[@RiverDocs]

Thanks. Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lumberlikwidator8863]

Great job bringing these guys back into the limelight. I don’t have any anecdotes about the guys featured here, but I do have a quote from Duane Allman. When asked about Neil Young, Duane reportedly said, “I don’t like that cat’s playing. That cat should stick to rhythm work.” Thanks again for the music history lesson!

[@RiverDocs]

You're welcome. Thanks for sharing your story. Appreciate it and Happy New Year!

[@kevinschultz413]

Awesome Documentary !!

[@RiverDocs]

Thank you!

[@Mark-d7o7d]

All the best Randy from your Good Friend Mark From Maple 🍁 Grove Mn USA 🎉

[@ferdberfle5069]

Good stuff as always RD! Thanks!

[@RiverDocs]

Thanks for watching! Cheers!

[@rodneyharouff5739]

good vid man! i dig yer stuff 'cause i was around a lot of it, but not all. i went to country when disco ruled the rock world.

[@RiverDocs]

Thanks! I actually was around for a lot of country back then too.

[@ltgray2780]

R&R Hall of Fame is a Freakin' Joke. Wouldn't pay a wooden nickel to see it.

[@johnking6252]

Happened first day after they opened the joint ! 👍

[@kc0lif]

three wonderful musicians.

[@RiverDocs]

Yes they are!

[@charlesmauro5905]

I was one of those people that had no idea who Terry Kath was when I heard he died. I was already a big fan of Chicago, but still didn't know his name. I was in my car, heading home from the beach. I grew up on Long Island, and I was always going to the beach. Summer and winter. I was on the cloverleaf exiting the parkway, when I heard the news for the first time. It was funny that I remember exactly where I was, when I heard about it. And when I heard the circumstances behind what took his life, it made me so sad. Especially since I was a member of the NRA since I was a youngster. And one of the first things you learn about guns, is always treat every gun you handle like it's loaded. Even if you know for sure that it isn't. But even though I didn't know his name at the time, I still remembered exactly where I was, that's how hard it hit me! It's like I remember exactly where I was when I heard the news that Elvis died. And the same thing with John Lennon. It's funny how hard it hits you, when somebody you really admire, dies. Even though you don't really know the person personally, it hits you like you've lost a loved one.

[@dustylover100]

A big problem was that they were perceived as a faceless band behind the logo.

[@robertphelps1574]

Between Peter Green leaving John Mayall and forming Fleetwood Mac ,Peter Green recorded a song called Sone Crazy with Aynsley Dunbar,Jack Bruce and Rod Stewart

[@frank.reilly5510]

Don’t worry about the rock ‘n’ roll Hall, the people have spoken 😎👍🤘🇺🇸🇨🇦

[@ramblerdave1339]

We tried to get them to put it in Detroit, if we had been successful, Foghat, Humble Pie and, Small Faces, would be in, and all the Pop(not Rock) stars, wouldn't be.

[@shrimp8004]

U did it again RD another badass doc I've always liked an Jamed to Fleetwood Mac didn't know Peter Greene started FWM Thanks RDif u had any compation thay woudnt make it cause u my man are the💩. 😂🎸lol Thanks RD ✌️

[@RiverDocs]

Thanks Shrimp!

[@coloradothenandnow4264]

I personally think that one of Terry Kath's best songs is Dialogue. His guitar work and vocals interact so well with the vocals and bass work of Peter Cetera. If you want to really want to get to know Terry Kath, watch the documentary that his daughter made called The Terry Kath experience.

[@dustylover100]

Byblos from Chicago VII is also a great example of Kath's singing.

[@rodneyharouff5739]

the guess who tripped my trigger! i liked BTO too. chicago was GREAT!

[@RiverDocs]

Like I said...music sure would have been a lot different back then without those groups. Thanks for watching and your comment!

[@rodneyharouff5739]

@@RiverDocs definitely!

[@allencollins6031]

😎👍thanks

[@RiverDocs]

You bet

[@paulweinmann-gw2sm]

I also thought Terry Kath was a very special guitar player, I love his guitar work and vocals on the song Dialogue off of Chicago V.

[@davebeck359]

Peter Green exhibits a direction between his head, heart,soul, fingers and a higher power . Peter Green's music was an expression of his emotional and spiritual being . Peter's success turned him into a "Rock God" living in a chaotic world, Peter wanted no part of this admiration or the monetary gains. Peter wanted to get together some groups to play free to feed starving children . For this he was considered nuts or crazy. 5 years later George Harrison put together enough music power to perform "The Concert for Bangladesh", for this Harrison and crew was praised. Peter was ahead of his time and his music and consciousness will live on forever.

[@rustymacneil3227]

Hendrix had said allegedly, Terry Kath was the best . These three are exceptional at what the they did.

[@RiverDocs]

No doubt!

[@We_All_Seek_Truth]

His guitar ended up being bought by Kirk Hammett for around $2 million. Long story. I may come back later and post it, but anyone can research it. It's a pretty famous axe. And a unique one, for being a 1959 Les Paul Standard.

[@RiverDocs]

There is talk about the 59 LP in both this video and the Peter Green video.

[@revkenwiz]

A Chicago member forget which one, but he said hendrix wanted to record with them. First 4 records by Chicago with Kath are their best. Peace & love

[@RiverDocs]

Agree about those albums.

[@mikeglasgow9618]

Are you on tonight Doc?

[@RiverDocs]

Nope. I won't be back on until Wednesday again.

[@mikekeeler6362]

Is he related to the other Norman greenbaum Spirit in the sky guy

[@413TomaccoRoad]

None are forgotten founding members.

[@herbb8412]

Terry was great. The first concert that I had to pay to attend. Sunday afternoon. I was in 7th grade. 1971. It was a “sit-down” show. My friends and I moved upfront and were actually leaning on the stage. (No security fences back then). We were cheering and screaming like crazy. Terry was 3’ in front of me. After one song he said “You guys are making a lot of noiseout there and we’re diggin’ it”. After the show, as we waited out front for our ride home, we spotted the band’s two limousines. We headed towards them. You could see the guys locking the doors. The windows opened and they started stuffing posters through the opening. I asked them to sign one, and got 3 or 4 autographs. The guys were passing around joints to each other. Quite a thrill for a 13 year old! Years later, when my now late brother would come home from college, we would sing “Dialogue” before falling to sleep.

[@RiverDocs]

Wow what a great story. Thanks for sharing!

[@paulweinmann-gw2sm]

I read about Jimi Hendrix called Terry Kath the best guitarist on the universe. Have you also heard that by chance.

[@RiverDocs]

I have. Not for sure if it is true or not. Thanks for watching and your comment!

[@BillE-ce6eo]

Well, although he isn’t a founding member Bob Welch’s is much more more or less well known than Peter Green was

[@bobbrinkerhoff3592]

Cleveland seems to be allergic to Canadian acts , they have snubbed Steppenwolf and Blood , Sweat , and Tears for years amongst many others .

[@clydekimsey7503]

I believe the piano guy, not bachman

[@RiverDocs]

Yea me too, that's why I kind of put my disclaimer on there that this is what Randy said believe it or not. lol Sounds pretty far fetched to me.

[@PedrSion]

Terry Kath was messing about with a gun and shot himself in the head. Don’t know why this wasn’t stated.

[@RiverDocs]

It was stated but you had to watch the video until the end, which you didn't. Now if you want to hear more about his death then you have to go here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4jalpR4drGIitk

[@reddrockingeezer]

Randy's last name is pronounced BACKman, not a soft "a", like the great composer Bach.

[@RiverDocs]

Randy said in an interview both ways are fine with him. All interviews I listened to it was pronounced bach...I've pronounced it that way forever. Thanks for watching and your comment.

[@Joseph-ax999]

The Supernatural.

[@OldHeathen1963]

Whats with this "hall of fame" stuff? Why are so many important bands and musicians excluded? Freaking people i listened to on NYC Am MUSIC radio even!! I mean "Rock is my life" afterall 😉

[@tsitracommunications2884]

The panozzos, chuck an john (RIP) founded styx