The Fountainhead - Enright Building Party

The party held after the completion of the Enright Building, featuring Dominique Francon played by Patricia Neal from the movie The Fountainhead.

[@PhyllisJerry]

Whoever did the set/production design for this move did an amazing job. They could’ve made it as an actual architect. Roark’s building still looks like it could be cutting-edge modern architecture in 2024.

[@daveconley6076]

"I play the stock market of the spirit. And I sell short." Awesome line. I pop for it every time.

[@josephonwhidbey]

The better line is when Roark says to Toohey ""but I don't think about you""

[@codymays9943]

@@josephonwhidbey Best moment in the book.

[@greatmcluhansghost7134]

the beauty of the human spirit is something to behold.

[@hoctor]

She lied to get Social Sec and Medicare now her spawn are about to privatize it, 'Advantage' plans.

[@steveouk90126]

2:46 - "There's Dominique Francon!" (smiles) "Yeah... I _plowed_ her." 🤣

[@schwarzernerz]

One of the Greatest Movie ever made. A Masterpiece.

[@PlasmaCoolantLeak]

I saw the movie before I read the book. Coop's Howard Roark is who I pictured while reading it.

[@DeepScreenAnalysis]

It’s sheer camp 😂

[@Aspasia-lu4vg]

😂😂😂

[@liztan3457]

I would truly appreciate it very much if someone out there could upload this American Classic film so that more people from all over the world could appreciate this....

[@JeffersonDinedAlone]

Dominique's utter shock down to her shoes when she realizes who Roark actually is is fantastic; which, of course, is precisely what Roark wanted. Knowing that she would be present that evening is the only reason he attended.

[@catc473]

Yeah. She's *too* shocked, which clashes with the book and the character's strength, ultimately.... Disappointing, I must say.

[@mxbishop]

Patricia Neal's trademarks: Showing shock and scorn. I don't think the filmmakers realized this at the time - but there's not one light moment in this film, or any lightheartedness to be found. Just this relentless and tremendous weight of Rand ideas. Which are great ideas, to be sure - but in this movie - are delivered with a sledgehammer. Rand had worked on the script. But even she distanced herself from this solid-wooden production after seeing the completed picture. Movies with the heaviest of ideas still need a little air to breathe - but you won't find any in this one. Still, the film has some fine moments - and is worth a look for anyone who read, and liked, the book.

[@160_raviprateek9]

@@catc473 precisely

[@DangerousFacts48]

Ellsworth Toohey is the ultimate villain. He's not just evil; he UNDERSTANDS evil, and everything about it.

[@daveygladneversad7407]

yes

[@PatrickMoto97]

I've pondered how he is different from roark

[@xdavidliu]

He plays the stock market of the spirit, and he sells short.

[@codymays9943]

@@xdavidliu Good reference. His whole career was about hiding his nefarious ideas in plain sight.

[@jerrymeyers1646]

Going back and reading it a second time I realize more fully that one of the most evil things he did was what he did to Katie

[@pacifiedfools]

I love the Fountainhead. It's so great.

[@OliverBeatson]

Wow, what a stunning actor Patricia Neal is.

[@williamanthony9090]

@dynmicpara2 - Actually the term actor is slowly evolving to encompass both sexes. Another twenty years, and the term actress might be dropped altogether. I wonder myself how that might play out at future award ceremonies. Best Actor In A Female Lead? Who knows...

[@bingbird77]

I still use actress as well as waitress because I think female forms of words are equal to male forms. Calling women actors is just a result of more regressive gender science confusion and denial.

[@bingbird77]

Yes she's a great actress. Yes it's ok to say that men and women exist.

[@prohacvice9671]

I hope they try to make a new version of this movie. Though this time, with people who can truly immerse themselves in the characters.

[@leaguemoments1326]

I hope they never make another movie on this book. People should just read the book.

[@jacobmandelblum6644]

I didn't see anything wrong in this film to deserve all these critics... Gary Cooper too old for the role he plays...?????? He doesn't look old for the role and Ms. Francon doesn't look like a sprig chicken either and I firmly believe it is a hell of a good film regardless of its critics...!!!!!!

[@sylestermajor783]

You've missed the essential idea

[@Saint_Wolf_]

Zack Snyder wants to make a Fountainhead movie (he hasn't because he can't get the rights to it) and the only good thing I think of it is that maybe Henry Cavil could be Howard Roark, and maybe ScarJo could be Dominique?

[@majimasmajimemes1156]

How exactly am I supposed to immerse myself in characters that are all horribly written caricatures?

[@theloniousMac]

Extraordinary work, extraordinary story.

[@policemanaaron]

The passion in this scene fairly explodes from the pages when reading the book.

[@shmonly]

One of the greatest classic ever made. It's not necessary age should be always young

[@lapredo3]

As a classic movie enthusiast, Gary Cooper's "The Fountainhead" from 1949 is by far one of the finest classic movies besides Joan Crawford in "Mildred Pierce" from 1945.

[@josephonwhidbey]

Patricia Neal played her part perfectly.

[@mzytryck]

I love the look Dominique casts at Toohey at 1:05. She doesn't even need to hear the rest of his establishing character moment, she just gives him the pitying/contemptuous up-and-down look to confirm the jealousy, mediocrity and unjustified self-importance she detected from his first sentence and dismisses him from her world.

[@indanekwaffles7074]

great comment. great observation.

[@wastename0]

You improved my favorite scene.

[@mijongripuk4383]

Howard Roark could be Dominique's father in this movie lol. The book had a young howard roark

[@kambennett2487]

And was real loose and flexible, like a cat.

[@daveconleyportfolio5192]

I don't mind his age, though Gary Cooper isn't the guy I'd choose for the part. The movie builds on Roark's years in the wilderness, working quarries and designing gas stations. Being an idealist means more when you've already paid a cost for it.

[@daveygladneversad7407]

@@daveconleyportfolio5192 dig

[@adeshparikh1832]

She had daddy issues anyway

[@swapnilkamble15]

True😁

[@DodderingOldMan]

A great example of how films cannot help but age, usually badly, but a book can be timeless. The Fountainhead might have been written yesterday, but this film is very much constrained by the time in which it was made.

[@vladnabokov3166]

agreed, but you answer your own objection. a reinterpretation of any work is bound to fall short of the original...

[@yragcom1]

Absolutely disagree. Thematically, it's as relevant as it was in the 50s. Perhaps now even more so.

[@alexandriabasso4152]

Well stated!

[@rickkohnken4776]

This movie is a crystalline distillation of the novel. It exists apart from while at the same time immortalizing the philosophy of Rand. To remake it would be a slap in the face.

[@winstonfifield8601]

In 1962 I read the book 'The Fountainhead'. Ann Rand gave a lecture at Ford Hall Forum next to Northeastern University about that time. "Don't believe anything you hear and half of what you see." I had worked for Harvard School of Design after leaving Tufts bored. The person who built WTC/911 said his structural engineering did not compensate for a fuel laden plane hitting a building. I worked in architecture and engineering all over he world and made the most money working for Field Facility Engineers building telecommunications systems. I am responsible for construction of 400 apartments in Boston. I believe she was trying to convince people they should be doing their best for humanity and not profit. If she was poor it was the way we all end up in some manner. I met a person of extreme wealth in Newport, RI. and wouldn't change places. I live in D/R and there are many unoccupied buildings that could provide housing for people that need to get out of hostile environments. The banks and bureaucracy have screwed everyone everywhere. The movie is what is. About being poor James Whistler "Whistler Mother painting" fought to his death for freedom of expression and died in poverty. His paintings today get????$$$???

[@sharksport01]

You're all over the board. Focus, then write a book.

[@ianmacewan6069]

A work of genius. Now, we have each revealed our respective characters.

[@johngalt173]

The highest tribute to Ayn Rand, is that her critics must distort everything she stood for in order to attack her. She advocated reason, not force; the individual’s rights to freedom of action, speech, and association; self-responsibility, NOT self-indulgence; and a live-and-let-live society in which each individual is treated as an END, not the MEANS of others’ ends. How many critics would dare honestly state these ideas and say, ” . . .and that’s what I reject”?

[@okramando]

And she died alone in her NY apartment dependent on the social welfare that she spent her life rejecting

[@japethstevens8473]

Who is this guy? ;-)

[@gotetyaditya9599]

@@okramando the system taxed her for her entire life…

[@okramando]

@@gotetyaditya9599 Everyone is taxed. Not everyone is a hypocrite.

[@Steelpeachandtozer]

@@okramando FALSE. She died in her own department and not a care home it is true, but she was far from alone. Neither was she dependent on welfare. She received a steady income from her writing - all four of her novels remain best sellers and are regarded as classics of American literature being promoted as such by her renowned publishers, Penguin. As for the baseless charge that she rejected social welfare - that too is false. She rejected state welfare due to its reliance on force but reclaiming, in part, that which has been illegitimately stolen from you, does not constitute a support for larceny. Indeed, she expressly encouraged claiming state benefits precisely on the grounds that all such claims could constitute only a partial recovery of one's stolen assets. It is worth noting too that her estate is still paying taxes more than 40 years after her death.

[@solidworksegitim9951]

This movie needs to be remake book was awesome❤

[@albionicamerican8806]

Talk about double entendre: "I wish I had never seen your building."

[@jazzfan6]

Have you seen kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJfGf5pme65khJI at 0:57?

[@victoriajarvis2260]

It must have been fun for Patricia to have Gary as her "adversary".

[@keimo2007]

I wish I had never seen your "building". It’s the things that we admire or want that enslave us.

[@dennissalazar5866]

It's a big, tall "building." Lol

[@yosoykarito]

@@dennissalazar5866 😂

[@roberthaworth8991]

A tenet of Buddhism, which is otherwise antithetical to Objectivism -- and yet another example of how Rand's philosophy is all over the map.

[@Aspasia-lu4vg]

🙈 😂😂😂

[@josephortizgarcia]

One of my favorite films. Hotep.

[@anooshakankaria9708]

I've been saying francon wrong in my head this whole time

[@manuelgonzales5680]

I marvel at the scene where Dominique Francon descends down those sumptuous stairway, the interiors is as seductive as Patricia Neal herself and then Gary Cooper's statuesque elegance like his architecture.... absolutely classic!

[@victoriajarvis2260]

How did she do that without looking down? I would have rolled down those stairs.

[@Casio61]

Best thing abut this film is Max Steiner's score - genius.

[@markcook3570]

That building design was built all over down in south Miami in the early 60s

[@weav8060]

awesome, thanks. now that's real life!

[@jecobshaikh5429]

this conversation is totally different in the book

[@zomalfa4363]

2:30 The 40 yard stare and "oh shit son".

[@Atopico8]

Peter Keating looks too confident. I always imagined him uptight and anxious. Because he knew perfectly what he was. But then again, this was during his prime years, and he wanted to believe the delusion of his success. And Jesus, Howard Roark looks too old in this! I always imagined him young and vigorous, because on how much he loves his work.

[@emmanuelagudo4918]

'-- a sense of joy... the kind that makes one feel as if it were an achievement to experience it.' There are those peak moments in Ayn Rand's writing that bring feelings like you have just been to Atlantis or something, Those out of this world experience one feels after she had bombarded you with 'universal truths' and had reached that rational plane of 'objectivity' and then ask you to look back from your steps of not knowing. It's kind of ironic that such a thing is more of a possibility of fiction (of absolutes) and must have been hard to re-create in a world driven by scarcity and influences.

[@allthatyousee18]

"Those out of this world experience one feels after she had bombarded you with 'universal truths' and had reached that rational plane of 'objectivity' and then ask you to look back from your steps of not knowing." Very well put! I suggest you write more, if you aren't already.

[@emmanuelagudo4918]

@allthatyousee18 I might need your support, though.

[@allthatyousee18]

@@emmanuelagudo4918 no problem, come find me when you get started!

[@binklebabe4725]

"I remember every ... line ... of it." Yow!

[@4JBrewer]

My mother said that girls were more mature back then. There was a picture of her at 18 and she looked in her mid-20's.

[@westlock]

People complain about the stilted dialogue, but Ayn Rand's script wasn't trying for realism. She deliberately used melodramatic characters to push her objectivist philosophy. The song _Puttin' On the Ritz_ contains the line "Trying hard to look like Gary Cooper". This scene illustrates just how sharp Cooper looked in a tuxedo.

[@allanfifield8256]

"She deliberately used melodramatic characters to push her objectivist philosophy." It's a movie; It is supposed to be fun.

[@None-zc5vg]

@@allanfifield8256 Kirk Douglas dropped a screenwriter from the "Spartacus" production because the characters in his hands became "speeches on legs". That seems to have been how Rand wanted it in " The Fountainhead".

[@Dloomis494]

I would have liked to see The Temple of the Human Spirit(and the statue) in the movie. It was probably too controversial a subject to have been incorporated into the theme.

[@denisenoe7927]

It was. The producers would not have allowed it.

[@Rksmartinfo]

I like it movie

[@vinayseth1114]

0:58 Goes to show how myopic Ayn's vision was. It makes perfect sense for an architect to ask for the opinion of the public for his creation. He hasn't built an artwork, but rather a space for people to occupy. So asking the user for their opinion makes perfect sense. Taking the user into consideration was what made Apple a giant, after all.

[@jupiterlegrand4817]

You just made Ms. Rand's point...almost better than she could.

[@vinayseth1114]

@@jupiterlegrand4817 Nope. Architecture isn't simply artistic expression the way that stand-up comedy or cinema are. Architecture is a combination of art and functionality. My father, having grown up in an Indian village, still brushes his teeth in the bathroom while in a squatted position. Tell me-would it hurt the 'genius' of an architect to build a flat which takes into consideration his personal quirk? I wouldn't be surprised to learn that you live in a homogenized Western country and act almost exactly like your neighbours-this homogeneity in turn has led you to blindly believe the blatant one-sidedness of Rand's thesis.

[@joep8787]

If you want the architect to build YOUR design, why hire an expensive architect known for his original designs? Waste of money. If I were building a custom home, I wouldn't hire an architect and then show him a design I picked out of a book of plans. I'd tell him the home must have 4 bedrooms, 3 baths, open plan kitchen and to make the best of the site's views. How he does it is up to him. Presumably, I'd have hired him because I'd seen his work and liked it.

[@sharksport01]

wasnt it the critic asking?

[@codymays9943]

Well, no. This was a private commission done for a private client. And that’s the point therein. Why should Roark or Enright care about other opinions?

[@Dloomis494]

Why would Roger Enright invite Toohey into his home?

[@denisenoe7927]

Because Toohey is a prominent architecture authority.

[@Edits_Panic0]

Damn, all this building stuff aged Roark like hell LOL

[@xdavidliu]

1:16 the Ellsworth actor seems miscast; he's way too assertive and masculine here. The book describes him as a chicken-like weakling with a scrawny neck and a soothing voice. 1:37 Similarly, Guy Francon here resembles some kind of military general. In the book he's a metrosexual dandy. 2:47 The Dominque Francon actress nailed it here; the book describes her as having "empty eyes, staring past and through Howard"

[@musik102]

I think I agree with all that! Ut certainly sounds great. Ayn Rand was a great thinker.

[@pdw8635]

Everyone is too old in this movie. Roark is 22, Keating is 24, Dominique is 19. I love the book though, read it 3 times.

[@Saint_Wolf_]

The "I sell short" I would never understand if it wasn't for gamestonks and r/WallStreetBets.

[@bishoppschickenbiscuits8850]

I’m reading the book for a second time right now, and really enjoying it. It is funny that the actors and actresses cast in this movie do not resemble what I envisioned in my minds eye. I imagine her as dark and Mediterranean looking and he’s supposed to be much younger, wiry with somewhat crazy orange hair. Also, their mannerisms are...well, off. Rand’s Roark would never make a slight “face” to her sort of saying “this is awkward “ or whatever that was. They are both way too cool and sexy for that, IMO. Would love to see a remake.

[@Ftc.6]

Patricia Neal ❤❤❤

[@daveygladneversad7407]

oh yes

[@henrykujawa4427]

This film is very surreal. It feels like a feature-length episode of "THE TWILIGHT ZONE". The dialogue also feels like STEVE DITKO wrote it. He's a disciple of the author's ideas.

[@geraldstephens6612]

Ditko, who co-created Spider-Man, Dr Strange, the Question, and Mr A, was a firm believer in Rand' philosophy .

[@None-zc5vg]

@@geraldstephens6612 it figures.

[@paulconnors2078]

Ayn Rand thought Gary Cooper too old to play ROARK and Patricia Neal too young to play Dominque Francon. Neal had an affair with Cooper and got pregnant by him. He compelled her to abort their love child. That said, this 1949 movie is still compelling.

[@denisenoe1534]

"Compelled"? Do you mean "pressured"? Or perhaps "supported"? Let's be careful with the language. I doubt force or threat was used to get her to have an abortion. Also, he could have avoided a scandal had he just paid for her to take a "vacation" for a few months.

[@ansquire9297]

Objectivism..., the individual one for oneself, and the virtue of selfishness...

[@peterdevney2805]

Lt. Tragg!

[@emmanuelagudo4918]

'I expected you to understand them.'

[@randyeubanks5356]

Have to listen to others comments before you form your own!

[@daveconleyportfolio5192]

It's almost as if Ayn Rand is critiquing social media instead of architecture. Oh wait -- in this movie architecture IS a social medium.

[@ivanpb1983]

In a world... where everybody is an asshole.

[@valeriekeefe8898]

2:08 The degree to which Ayn Rand advocated the state take from others the right to innovate in the name of recognizing creation tells you something of her true character. Another so-called hero who can't take their own advice... Toohey was more-right than the subjective "Objectivists" wish to admit.

[@danieltheteacher]

Bullies sometimes help us. The owner of the gossip newspaper hired Roark! . LOL it is a small world & we do meet some strange people in this life. Who can control love between people? and Roark is so forgiving when the rich man marries Roark's girlfriend. If an architect blows up a building in 2016 then he would be declared guilty & put to jail. I have met a woman that doesn't want to express love. She is sad. I am becoming like Roark in the silence factor. I too need to put my life in gear by taking action instead of talking. Hmm.. I'm not achieving my gigantic goals yet, but I am using my time wisely since I spend it babysitting.

[@roberthaworth8991]

2:28 -- "A man with an Idea! I MUST have him!" 3:45: Possibly the lamest, most bloated dialogue in Hollywood, with competition only from several other points in this very film. No wonder Rand was laughed out of the screenwriting community.

[@jimtrueblue99]

That staircase is an accident waiting to happen. You'd sure put in a day's hard climbing living in a place like that. Evidently the apartment was designed for mountaineers and Sherpas, not ordinary people. Can you imagine lugging cleaning supplies up and down all day long? Can you imagine doing any daily chore up and down those stairs all day long?

[@denisenoe7927]

Keep cleaning supplies on both floors

[@user-jd5cb5lt3m]

Roark would never build something so stupid.

[@sharksport01]

lets see your work .

[@denisenoe1534]

The architecture in the film wasn't modeled after Frank Lloyd Wright's work but a modernist style that Rand did NOT like.

[@Dloomis494]

They were trying to show an elegent modern design, engineered with style. But the scene was to show that the architect may not have liked the design, but he was more than happy to steal the brilliance of the engineering.

[@richardjohnson9218]

Critics are a dime dozen especially when they're talentless. Great film and acting. Showed Howard Roark integrity by sticking to script!

[@sherlockhemlock1246]

Ayn Rand wrote the script. I think that she insisted that they were not to change anything.

[@emanon1544]

The only thing I hate about the 40s-60s is the age miscast and these horrendous age gaps

[@BobPagani]

Is there one single character in this movie or the book it's based on that acts or speaks like an actual human being?

[@mattleemattlee123]

That's the error: Rand wasn't writing characters as such. She was using them as vehicles, as archetypes for ideas. It's a real unique way to convey things, and very deep. Personally, I love the way it makes things off-kilter and gives them a formal weirdness. Once you get how she's using the characters, it takes on a whole different dimension. They're not meant to be real people!

[@theloniousMac]

+BobPagani As opposed to, for example, Aaron Sorkin, which (just a guess) you probably adore.

[@BobPagani]

I know who Sorkin is, of course, but I've seen very little of his work, other than Studio 60.

[@okramando]

That's how I've always seen them. They are views distilled and encapsulated into characters.

[@michaelmcgovern7139]

That's Rands problem ... It's dogmatic and cannot be real. It's attractive once you know it's bs

[@pearlgirl5643]

“I play the stock market of the spirit and I sell short”

[@notthatyouasked6656]

Every single person in this movie is miscast. Every one. Read the book instead. At east Rand wasn't quite as full of herself in Fountainhead as she would be with Atlas Shrugged.

[@denisenoemyschizotypaldiso3755]

Not every person. Gary Cooper was badly miscast because he was too old and didn't really understand the character or Rand's ideology.

[@codymays9943]

Consider the era. But I agree with you.

[@roberthaworth8991]

@@denisenoemyschizotypaldiso3755 Because 22-y.o. "geniuses" like Roark, fresh out of school and outspoken to the point of abrasiveness, always get immediate traction in an industry where millions of dollars and thousands of human lives depend upon their outlandish building ideas actually working. It was AYN RAND who knew nothing of real life.

[@None-zc5vg]

The picture had to be sexed-up to give it more of a chance at the box-office, hence the scenes of Dominique on horseback, galloping around frenetically and whipping Roark across the face. In the doorstop novel, this took-up just a handful of lines.

[@allenmoses110]

Speaking as an accomplished postmodern architect, this modern building sucks.

[@tectorgorch8698]

@ 2:28 -- boinnnngggg!!!

[@theylied1776]

This is like a parody of a better movie. It's like a skit SNL would do.

[@yukonred6397]

If The Fountainhead were remade today, I picture Dominique Francon as portrayed by Krysten Ritter(Jane from Breaking Bad) Seems she would be perfect attitude and all.

[@codymays9943]

That’d be good. I could also see Cara Delevingne as well. Blonde, cold, icy

[@saire1th627]

What the fuck....Book gave me a Idea of Young Howard Roark...but he look like Howard Roark father

[@HC-cb4yp]

Nobody talks like this. That was my main problem with the book.

[@STho205]

That is a good observation. Her books are like Plato's Republic. A set of dialogs and monologs that express social and individual philosophy....the settings are just contrived parables to hold the lessons together. The character go from how do you do, to baring their deepest thoughts in 10 seconds.

[@JuantheJohn1]

3:23 my job is done here

[@denisenoemyschizotypaldiso3755]

Gary Cooper was 48 when this film was made. The book started with Howard Roark as 22 and ended with him in his early 30s. The age is the main reason Cooper just doesn't make a credible Roark.

[@MonotoniTV]

Only fitting character is Dominique and even she could be a bit younger

[@denisenoemyschizotypaldiso3755]

@@MonotoniTV Yes.

[@sharksport01]

This isnt the book, its a movie.

[@keimo2007]

It works fine for us who haven't bothered to read the book, but just love the movie!

[@denisenoemyschizotypaldiso3755]

@@keimo2007 I love the book. I like the movie. But the film would have been better with a younger Howard Roark. It also need to be in color so his red hair would show.

[@davidellinger8837]

I can't take Rand's dialogue. But if you're here you probably like it.

[@jupiterlegrand4817]

It's the formal weirdness of it that makes it great.

[@sharksport01]

I cant take Ayns dialogue but Im rather comfortable judging everyone here. Youre welcome.

[@davidellinger8837]

? I didn’t judge anyone. I stated a fact. Most people watching Ayn Rand clips are probably fans.

[@allanfifield8256]

Me too.

[@tturner12341]

I’m here because I read it was a awful book and a even worse movie. But, this scene is very beautiful.

[@MrAdvancedAtheist]

Did women age faster in the 1940's, perhaps because of the smoking and the alcohol consumption? Patricia Neal looks more like 30 than her calendar age of 23 when she made this movie.

[@denisenoe7927]

The hair and dress styles made for a more mature look.

[@sharksport01]

lets see you in black and white film.

[@keimo2007]

@@denisenoe7927 yes. and smoking two packs per day didn't help neither.

[@codymays9943]

These comments are strange seeing as she lived to be 84.

[@jazzfan6]

If I were a woman, I'd wear a strapless gown with white fur bodice trim ALL . . THE . . TIME. 🤪 🤪 🤪

[@IOANNA333]

@lululapeache i know, it's like santa claus's wife...and she's a natural beauty!

[@JeffreyArchitect]

Dig the current code violations, particularly the stairs and balcony without rails...Yikes if only we had such freedom these days. I bet the glass is single paned and not laminated. "OHHH the humanity..." Tongue fully in Cheek! eww...I forgot the energy code, I bet every damn lamp is incandescent, they don't show the entry, but I bet it it's not accessible. God, It is virtually impossible to practice Architecture anymore...

[@victoriajarvis2260]

What's an architect?

[@mightisright]

Nice dialogue. lol

[@rockyp3917]

Roark never smiled! This Roark smiled too much and is lot older

[@denisenoe1534]

Yes he did. The first sentence in the novel is, "Howard Roark laughed."

[@jasonmcintosh2632]

One of the best books i’ve read, but a god awful movie.

[@Thompsdan]

The dialogue in this film is diabolical, not remotely believable. It's the same in the book of course so no wonder.

[@sharksport01]

but you rush here to watch and comment.

[@roberthaworth8991]

HOW DARE you say that to a uncompromising hyper-masculine creative genius entrepreneur who doesn't care a fig for the "opinions" of a jaded and pultrescent society long compromised by the false allure of "public goods" and alleged "community values" like me?

[@Thompsdan]

What could be more false than these characters, contrived and all of a piece?

[@sharksport01]

✌

[@allanfifield8256]

I watched this the other night. It was painful start to finish. Rand wrote the screenplay herself and would not allow any changes leading to scene after scene awful dialog. Made Gary Cooper look foolish as an actor. Three thumbs down.

[@SpencerStern82]

Great display of capitalism in motion...

[@smorre4004]

I mostly see parasites leeching off capitalism.

[@rammmin1]

Convention of selfish snubs.

[@vaclavmiller8032]

Lol this is such a pantomime

[@DavidCordobablink]

mmm Dominique, yummy

[@daveygladneversad7407]

oh yes

[@TheHawk-dy4cl]

jesus, slow down...they're talking like they're in a rush..bad acting.

[@stevenmarler5154]

The actor's seem to be rushing their lines.

[@roberthaworth8991]

The director knew they had about 159 pages of tendentious dialogue to get through each shooting day, and every day costs money. So, the actors had to speed up the delivery (except Cooper -- he just couldn't). Sloppy screenwriters, esp. those who are adapting their own books, try to throw in as much of the source material as they can. Look at the TV show "Gilmore Girls" if you want a flood of dialogue, delivered fast. It's like they sped up the tape by 25%.

[@messianic_scam]

I dont like her acting

[@sharksport01]

show us your academy awardS.

[@goldengal1989]

Horrific dialogue.

[@keimo2007]

Especially Cooper sounds time to time like he's reading/seeing his lines first time.

[@igoold1]

I can't believe what passes for "acting"..

[@leaguemoments1326]

This movie is over 60 years old.

[@igoold1]

you're kidding. That must be why it's in Black and White and all the actors are currently resting in the dirt...I am aware it is an old movie. That much is crystal clear. But thanks for the "helpful information"

[@leaguemoments1326]

Ian Goold youre the one complaining about stiff acting.

[@igoold1]

+League Moments again, you have championed the art of stating the incredibly obvious. Yes, I mentioned stiff acting. It is a criticism/complaint. Now, I'm going to go back to work. Have a great day.

[@igoold1]

+League Moments again, you have championed the art of stating the incredibly obvious. Yes, I mentioned stiff acting. It is a criticism/complaint. Now, I'm going to go back to work. Have a great day.

[@TedBurke]

Ayn Rand was a narcissistic fascist, an elitist enemy of democracy and working men and women, and she was a horrendous novelist and essayist. To call her characters "wooden" would be too kind a description of her artistic ineptitude; her prose style was dogmatic, pedantic , dull witted and without grace. She worships the idea of male power and tries her hardest to give intellectual justification for Roark's rape of Dagney. The argument is implicit and obvious, which is that as a genius, Roark had the right to take what or who wanted.

[@codymays9943]

What have you written? Besides this cliché community college critique.

[@robertromero8692]

As is often the case, you can only attack Rand by making up lies about what she said. She advocated reason, not force (fascism depends on force), the freedom of the individual, and people being able to reap the rewards of their own efforts. She clearly stated that Roark having sex with Dominique was by "engraved invitation" (as she put it), which means it was not rape by definition.

[@roberthaworth8991]

Correct. Her entire "philosphy" was but a tendentious working-out in print of her hatred of the Bolsheviks, who had dispossessed her hardworking merchant father -- twice -- and caused him to give up. Materially indulged as a little girl, with a pony, a French governess, and a townhouse in St. Petersburg, afterward she was just an anonymous refugee struggling to be recognized in both the professional and social scenes in NYC and Hollywood, both of which she considered socialist-dominated. The whole Rand edifice was an exercise in projection on her part.

[@robertromero8692]

​@@roberthaworth8991 Sounds like you're exhibiting the usual left wing resentment towards successful people and their desire to have their children benefit from that success. One might just as well argue that Marx’s entire philosophy was a justification for his mooching off of Engels rather than producing something himself. One hardly needs to be “tendentious” to recognize the immense deprivation, misery, and death caused by the Bolshevik philosophy, which is the premiere example of thinking that individuals exist only to serve, even die for, the collective. Rand’s philosophy is very much needed to counter that attitude of self-sacrifice.

[@roberthaworth8991]

@@robertromero8692 A real, enduring philosophical system is based on a deep understanding of both history and of human nature. Marx's had at least the former. Rand's had neither, but was SUBJECTIVE in the extreme. That is, it was based on her own experience, which she improperly generalized and claimed applied to the whole world. The origins of her "philosophy" in her hero-worship of her father and her resentment of the NY and Hollywood elites who "held her back" from the greatness she felt she deserved in the literary and screenwriting professions aren't far to seek.

[@VinayakPande53]

Damn. This movie is every sociopath's dream come true.

[@johnhardman3]

"Soul": what soul?

[@alg11297]

Trash book made into trash movie. How could anything this bad have been made during Hollywood's golden age?

[@alg11297]

@@David-Once got my free copy of Atlas Shrugged. Good for bird cage liner

[@Grisostomo06]

Gawd awful melodrama.. The dialogue is horrible and so is the acting.

[@joep8787]

I wish they'd have cast George Sanders or Claude Rains instead of Robert Douglas as Ellsworth Toohey. In the novel, Toohey was more superficially charming than this one. Gary Cooper was too old for Roark. Gregory Peck would have been better. Robert Ryan would have made a better Gail Wynand. Patricia Neal was the only cast member who was absolutely perfect.

[@roxannesantoro7503]

Damn Joe P Gregory Peck would have been perfect. Gary Cooper looks like her father. You are so right.

[@denisenoe1534]

I believe Robert Douglas was a perfect Ellsworth Toohey. He's one of the most charming and energetic villains in film history.

[@snowmiser4893]

Cartoonish drivel.

[@sharksport01]

wasted 4 minutes of your Kardashian time.

[@Dabhach1]

Ridiculous film from a ridiculous book by a ridiculous woman. The true beginning of the utter narcissism which is destroying us today.

[@dorianasozzi7223]

Any Rand was a lesbian complexed...ridicolous and pitiful book..the dialogues are ugly because she wrote them herself...the only ones enjoyed were Patricia and Gary who will have fucked behind the camera!!🤣😋😋

[@sharksport01]

You both seem very nervous.

[@victoriajarvis2260]

Yep.