The Four Contenders within Final Fantasy XIV Dawntrail

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@youngecujoh855
@youngecujoh855 5 ай бұрын
Really hoping Wuk lamats drive to be Dawn servent isn't just "I wanna make everyone happy" and she actually really constructs her claim
@acgearsandarms1343
@acgearsandarms1343 5 ай бұрын
So will someone have to die for her character development to kick in so she can be King of the Pirates? I mean Dawnservant? I just hope it isn’t Erenville.
@Theheadless1858
@Theheadless1858 5 ай бұрын
I kind of hope the opposite. I don’t think Wuk is suited to the throne. She wants it partly to make her father proud and partly to save her people from the bad guy. I hope by the end that she’s free either back in Eorzea with us or just exploring the world or maybe even the universe(s) depending on how things pan out. I think she will win because we will win but she will cede the throne to the Miqote. Or the 3 non imperialist contestants will decide to form a council. If Tural is really as diverse as we keep being told, a single ruler may not make sense for them.
@acgearsandarms1343
@acgearsandarms1343 5 ай бұрын
@@bauloprete3905 As a female Hrothgar, her race has natural leaders among their females. So she has potential, but whether or not it is achieved is another matter entirely on her. Fingers crossed.
@shybandit521
@shybandit521 5 ай бұрын
I feel like that's going to be her struggle, and what we spend a lot of time covering, is just watching her define her worldview and what she offers to the throne. She comes into the game with a strong moral character but little else, with the goal of eventually winning in the end over candidates who may be stronger physically or in terms of beaurocracy, but are less generous and kind.
@stephenflint3640
@stephenflint3640 5 ай бұрын
Hers feels like the "Steady traditionalist" path. That she wants her people and civilization to grow and advance, but on their own terms. We've done well this way, and other lands have their merits and glories. Her brother strikes me as the foil; He seeks to bring Turral to a revolution by introduction and assimilation of more advanced arts. Sharlayan, Garlemald, and even ancient Allag have glorious marvels and innovations, and if they're willing to trade or be deduced, let the modernity and marvels be used.
@Madrock7777
@Madrock7777 5 ай бұрын
As a famous lizard once said, "I yeild to none!" and as my Xaela is also red I have to agree it.
@BrambleBear
@BrambleBear 5 ай бұрын
Ah the red prince.
@brandonpatterson634
@brandonpatterson634 4 ай бұрын
Glory is mine
@cstrouts
@cstrouts 5 ай бұрын
I will not be surprised if two of the contenders for the throne team up and work together to win. Maybe Wuk Lamat and Koana. Having two co-leaders is similar to having a two-headed leader after all.
@ruthnovena40
@ruthnovena40 5 ай бұрын
This sounds likely and with the 2 headed symbol ism it would fill that need too.
@pyrosianheir
@pyrosianheir 5 ай бұрын
That's entirely possible, though I could also see it being everyone against Bakool by the end.
@Subtended
@Subtended 5 ай бұрын
In an ideal world, and assuming present knowledge is accurate... I'd say Zoraal Ja for Dawnservant, Wuk Lamat to head of Landsguard or similar position where she can develop, and Koana to a chief advisor position in Zoraal Ja's court to temper the rate of advancement. Bakool Ja Ja wins one (1) free asskicking courtesy of the WoL, with possibly more in the future!
@itsumoknight
@itsumoknight 5 ай бұрын
As it currently stands, my vote would be for Zoraal Ja. The thing about Koana is that their vision could be accomplished to some degree without being leader of the nation. Bakool Ja Ja is out of the question cuz more war. As for Wuk Lamat, her heart is in the right place but time will tell if she matures into a capable leader. So for the time being, I'd go with the guy who's got a proven track record for keeping people safe.
@PhantomSinger1
@PhantomSinger1 5 ай бұрын
Wuk Lamat seems to have her heart in the right place, but we've seen what good intentions with naivete can lead to. She'd need trustworthy comrades to notice when details don't line up and someone is being suspiciously useful all of a sudden. That's why Erenville is a good counterbalance; he's the yin energy to Wuk's yang energy. Koana has a dream for the future, but I fear that his drive to modernize Tural will meet with resistance if he tries to force it in a short time span. If people think they have no place in the future of their own nation, they may peacefully leave or attempt to sabotage efforts to change everything. Zoraal Ja sounds capable enough as the head of the peacekeeping force, but how would he adapt to political maneuvering? Where does he want to take his nation into the future? Bakool Ja Ja is my absolute last pick for possible ruler. His attitude towards anyone lacking two heads bodes ill for a nation made up of different races. Maybe he'll be the antagonist that brings the other three together so they realize that no one of them is perfect to rule alone.
@acgearsandarms1343
@acgearsandarms1343 5 ай бұрын
Logically I would have sided with Koana, but he I feel is lacking for the cultural aspect of everyone, seeing ahead but not seeing the whole picture. So in all, I think us siding with Wuk Lamat is not a bad choice. Out of the four, the likely winner I would say might be Zoraal Ja and Koana assuming nothing happens to them.
@bigfoxki
@bigfoxki 5 ай бұрын
A wild wild shot here, the Mamool Ja is a artificial species like the Ixali. They were made strong enough to withstand the calamity and left outside the vault. The dawn servant is the one with the power to unlocked the vault once the world is "safe-enough".
@sammicopor
@sammicopor 5 ай бұрын
I truly believe you trolling by talking about vaults.
@ikeaira8701
@ikeaira8701 5 ай бұрын
@@sammicopor watch the launch trailer again. The two Lalafells run into a Vault sealing themselves(and assuming others) inside. Now the question is if this vault is a portal from another world to the Source, or some kind of actual bunker. We won't know until next week!
@calzonexiv
@calzonexiv 5 ай бұрын
@@ikeaira8701we know they don’t have bodies, so my guess is that is the holding container that is housing their souls until new bodies can be made
@iPlayOnSpica
@iPlayOnSpica 5 ай бұрын
This is actually a thought I've toyed with. What relation is there between the Mamool Ja of Tural and the Haokah of the Crystal Tower? They're too similar to dismiss as mere coincidence of existence.
@inazumatan7050
@inazumatan7050 5 ай бұрын
Your thoughts align with mine - the golden city is a matrix simulation and it’s a one-way door
@HaddaClu
@HaddaClu 5 ай бұрын
So my money is on Zoraal Ja winning the thone. Based off of the description; he seems like someone who would have the best interests of the nation in mind. and will be thinking about the CONSEQUENCES of the actions that may or may not be needed to achieve them. Wuk is too headstrong and idealistic .... she reminds me of Lyse from SB a bit too much. The miqote brother seems as you pointed out a bit too ready to sweep aside everything that gives a people an identity; all for the sake of progress. Zoraal being the head of the defense force; will know how to take measured responses. I can see him forming alliances for the good of his people.... maybe even taking on one of his siblings as a partner in the government to help advance their country.
@NemesisTWarlock
@NemesisTWarlock 5 ай бұрын
Look, I know she's a shounen protgonist archetype. But Wuk Lamat is my new QUEEN, and I pledge my gunblade to her as Nakama. I will go to the ends of Etheriys and Beyond (and I very much likely will) for that woman. I also trust the writers to give her enough character development to truly come into her own.
@Rotisr
@Rotisr 5 ай бұрын
If we were actually given a choice, I would go with Zoraal Ja. Zoraal feels like he is the first son of Gulool Ja Ja, and given that he is commander he would have the leadership skills to rule. Wuk Lamat seems too much like a child trying to become ruler too fast, given what we have seen of her already. As for Koana and Bakool Ja Ja, I have a feeling these two are going to be somewhat the antagonists of the expansion. Bakool Ja Ja will the starting antagonist in the contest portion of the story, but when we hit the Solution-9 section of the story I feel that Koana will more than likely be the cause of the second threat in the story given his drive for technology.
@AzureGreatheart
@AzureGreatheart 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, having this information laid out made me wonder if there will be a single Dawn Servant at the end of the expansion; all of the candidates have good positions, while also having a glaring issue, with Wuk Lamat’s issue being a lack of experience. Most likely, Wuk Lamat ends up in charge after learning from the others, but I can also see this ending in a council ruling Tural; it wouldn’t be the first nation to be left heavily reformed in the Warrior of Light’s wake.
@pewthepuny2849
@pewthepuny2849 5 ай бұрын
"We will dissolve the ruling class and form a fair and equitable republic!"
@JackDaloots
@JackDaloots 5 ай бұрын
Dawn SERVANT!!! Thank you, all this time I thought it was the "Dawn SERPENT" ... I think I just had viper on the brain...
@drewgregory4079
@drewgregory4079 5 ай бұрын
In fairness, Gulool Ja Ja REALLY pronounces it like 'serpent' during the trailer.
@powerofk
@powerofk 5 ай бұрын
Honestly, I think we got dragged into helping Wuk Lamat because of the twins. At least, my WoL ended up that way. She wanted to stay out of this fight. We literally just met Wuk Lamat, and my WoL has gotten, shall we say, cynical of people’s true motives. So right now, we’re on a “trust but verify” allegiance with Wuk Lamat. Don’t want her to become another Ilberd.
@bladethewolfartist7095
@bladethewolfartist7095 5 ай бұрын
and then they have a twist and turn it into a council and the ruler was hoping for them to learn from one another during the contest
@michealvincent731
@michealvincent731 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to explain the lore. You explain in such rich detail. Your channel deserves many more views!
@Kibblethebrave
@Kibblethebrave 5 ай бұрын
My bet is that Wuk Lamat and Koana end up ruling together and serving basically the same function as the two heads; one being strength oriented and the other being mindful. It would be the most neatly handled way of replacing that kind of leader and having the "rivalry" not tear everyone apart.
@PhantomSinger1
@PhantomSinger1 5 ай бұрын
That's what I was thinking. Bakool Ja Ja may be formidable enough to bring the other three together so they realize that they each have something to bring to the throne.
@iPlayOnSpica
@iPlayOnSpica 5 ай бұрын
Two rulers is generally a recipe for disaster. I would say ultimately, there'd be a council of three.
@ianmoore2351
@ianmoore2351 5 ай бұрын
Koana, good to have a vision for the future. I'm already calling it that he ends up the Dawn Servant, I've a feeling that Wuk Lamat will realize she's not ready for the position during Dawntrail's story and will continue to adventure with us instead.
@hasseo195
@hasseo195 5 ай бұрын
Im not sure. He is my number 1 to. But i dont see him winning that. In would bet, that he is involved with solution 9. And could make a mistake or becomes a enemie. The most liskely scenario i see is, that Wu is winning by uniting the 1 headed lizard and Koana under her. The goal of him is under her even possible (esspecialy, because she dont have any plans). The 1 headed one could help the people at the best, with his current role as military commander.
@gearsun3466
@gearsun3466 5 ай бұрын
Honestly I do simp for Wuk Lamat. She's a character I love but I do not see her currently as a good choice for the Dawn Throne. Honestly I see Konoa or Zoraal Ja as a better choice for a possible Dawn Servant. I think her heart would be more at ease being free to explore because that adventurer's spirit is strong in her.
@shanytopper2422
@shanytopper2422 4 ай бұрын
My guess (could be total BS, but still) Wuk Lamats - Will probably go through a character development where we will help evolve into a good leader. Koana - Will seem friendly, but would actually be the secret villain. He has good intention that will lead him to be willing to cheat and sacrifice anything and anyone for his goals. Zoral Ja - Will at first seem like the hardest competitor with the best chances, but would actually be killed very early in the expansion. Bakool Ja Ja - Will seem like the main villain and will be the obvious bad guy, but by the end will have some sort of a face turn, and will help us defeat Koana, and will inherit Zoral Ja's role as head of Landsguard.
@Viech54
@Viech54 5 ай бұрын
I would love to be able to choose who to support/which group of Scions to join. But as that 99.999% won't happen (it won't, but I still have a slim hope that we have a few choices here and there), I'd choose Koana. Although any of the first three is probably an alright choice based on what we know so far. Possibly even one of them at the top with the other two helping out in their areas of expertise. Assuming they don't have to be killed for someone to win the contest, that is. Bakool Ja Ja, not so much.
@saltyrabbit4128
@saltyrabbit4128 5 ай бұрын
I'm also sure it won't happen, but I'm imagining a system kind of like WoW's Shadowland expansion where you can choose one of the 4 to support with the same dailies with different text. Then in the first or second post story patch, finally have the ruler solidified based on who got more support.
@Viech54
@Viech54 5 ай бұрын
@@saltyrabbit4128 I think they had something similar in Final Fantasy XI, their other MMO. There were different cities or countries or something and players could choose one. One of them would gain something based on who's winning. Although I only played like 20 minutes of FFXI, so no idea how it works exactly. They could absolutely do something like that again.
@ProfessM
@ProfessM 5 ай бұрын
A lot of folks are comparing Wuk to naruto or monkey with their want to be leader but not getting what leadership is. As I dropped Naruto years before he was even close to being Hokage I really hope she doesn't take the throne because I dislike the trope of the shonen dumb ass being leader cause they've got heart! Unless we really show her the hardship of being in charge and she grows or she has more then her I wanna be Pirate King personality I lean towards her brother. But discounting us my money is on the general. As I am a role player I've already actually got my Miqo er soon Hroth siding with the general as a means to test the Scions. As she's been my group's most action heavy and protector of the scions and my friends I game with the idea of her not being on their side and being the lone former Scion in a group felt a lot of fun. At first I was thinking she'd side with two head as a way to sabotage him and test herself, the more I thought of it the more she'd not work with him. That said as much as I don't want the trope of pirate king hokage to happen I could see this team pulling off what two popular animes have done and are doing but I dislike side note, I started off as a big Naruto fan when the series started but quickly dropped off and stuck with Bleach, and only liked 4kids version of One Piece. Yes I'm odd I know it. But at least Wuk Lamat has an idea what to do as a ruler even if she doesn't know what being a leader is, she at least has a leg up over early 2000s Shonen leads.
@RatchildUK
@RatchildUK 5 ай бұрын
Zoraal Ja is imo the humanoid form of Valigarmanda. During the liveletter Yoshi-P said he had a different form and quickly escaped from the battle to not show it.
@meitomiyazaki9848
@meitomiyazaki9848 5 ай бұрын
I think you are definitely overthinking it
@Edge2177
@Edge2177 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the coverage
@Jordan.A.07
@Jordan.A.07 4 ай бұрын
I'd fight for Koana. A civilization cannot thrive without technological development. And it's easier to work towards the future while keeping an eye on the past, than it is to forge a future out of nothing, or drag the past into the future. Though I feel like either Wuk Lamat will win, or a governing council will be formed in place of the former monarchy (which is a disinteresting copout, in my opinion).
@natebroadus8474
@natebroadus8474 5 ай бұрын
If I'm picking just for fun without any context from Dawntrail, I'd go with Koana. He seems like he has more of a vision for his people's future than just flowery speeches. That said, I'd need to see more of all 3 of them to really make a sound choice. Koana could have the vision, but not the intestinal/testicular fortitude for the job. It sounds like his dad could talk the talk AND walk the walk. Having a plan means dick if you can't execute it in the face of people who would just force you out of the way, like Bakool Ja Ja implied he's ready and willing to do. I hope this plays into Wuk Lamat's character. I wonder if that's why she's doing this: she's afraid her brothers won't be enough to stop the guy. Maybe she has some personal history with him that we have yet to see?
@TomTheOwl68
@TomTheOwl68 5 ай бұрын
I think maybe Wuk, but it depends how willing she is to listen to and more importantly understand her people. Wanting peace is a good trait but at what cost? Will she honour her people or her adopted father. Peace is idealistic but not always realistic and sometimes being so focused on one thing means you don't see the big picture. Its hard to not think that a little of all 4 is what is needed.
@therionvii342
@therionvii342 5 ай бұрын
The new ruler will be… Alphinaud! I expect a really unexpected scrip twist. And of course, we will find a new version of Emet-selch in Solution 9.
@bigfoxki
@bigfoxki 5 ай бұрын
Also Zoraal Ja probably died in the story if you look at the launch trailer. The non-moving hand that turned on the "key" had very similar arm brace he had.
@SynodicScribe
@SynodicScribe 5 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure he was just standing up in that frame, you can see his feet. haha
@bigfoxki
@bigfoxki 5 ай бұрын
@@SynodicScribe You are right XP, I missed his feet! Glad my favorite Ja is fine
@mtmockler
@mtmockler 5 ай бұрын
I am expecting a big ol plot twist. Im half expecting erenville to end up as our little frog prince and wuk lomat serving as his champion
@shadowlord3813
@shadowlord3813 4 ай бұрын
Your going to have fun with all the new info
@SynodicScribe
@SynodicScribe 4 ай бұрын
Oh trust me. I've been taking my time and cataloguing all the citations I'm gonna need later. haha
@aidanmillow566
@aidanmillow566 5 ай бұрын
Who I would support: Zoraal Ja Wuk Lamat seems like she could grow into a good leader but she's not there yet: I would support her if there was no-one else who seemed good. Of course she's the only one that we have more than a surface level knowledge of right now so every other assessment should be taken with a grain of salt. Koana is the one I'm least sure about: it all depends on how much restraint he has. If he tries to turn Tuliyollal into another Sharlayan within a generation that could be a disaster but if he's able to bring in innovation at a manageable pace and listens when people tell him no then he is probably the best option. Zoraal Ja seems the safest option, of course he's also the one we know least about. If he has a downside it is that we don't know if he's ventured outside of Tural and experience with foreign cultures is a positive thing in a leader. Bakool Ja Ja seems like a disaster unless most of the information that we have about him so far is incorrect. Who I think will win: None of them. Wuk Lamat is, in my opinion, the most likely of the four. I think there could be a satisfying arc in her recognizing that she's not ready while the other three are blind to their faults and she thus becomes the most worthy but given how much we've seen of her emphasizing that she isn't ready I think it's more likely that she will step aside to someone else. I can't explain why I don't think Koana will win but I don't think he will. Something in it seems narratively off. Possibly it's that I think "losing" to the claimant your allies sided with and then competed against you might leave a bad taste. Prior to the launch trailer I thought that the fourth claimant (Not Wuk Lamat or Koana or the unnamed imperialist claimant that turned out to be Bakool Ja Ja) would win but upon seeing Zoraal Ja unveiled I don't think he will. Ironically the "favorite" tag is the chief thing that make me doubt him. It would be interesting for the candidate that we are told "musn't win" to turn out to be not as bad as Wuk Lamat thought and end the victor but with the trailer and special site reinforcing her view I do not think there's any chance that Bakool Ja Ja wins. So then who?: well presumably one of the other characters highlighted as important: Erenville or the Enigmatic Maiden. I could make a prediction as to which but I think "None of the above" is a bold enough prediction in this context that I'm okay with not doing so.
@markup6394
@markup6394 5 ай бұрын
Not enough information to answer this. At the moment, I'm not even sure if I would support Wuk Lamat... She may be a good friend and allaround "good noodle", but good friends or good noodles arent necessarily good rulers. It takes more than that to keep as diverse a nation as Tural at peace and lead them into a future. - That alone would be a noteworthy journey, but the devs threw Solution 9 into the mix, so on top of not having enough information we also have this anomaly to deal with. So, yeah, no idea whats going to happen, I wont bother to stress about it and I'll see it when I see it :)
@ruinparadox4812
@ruinparadox4812 5 ай бұрын
I'd rather serve Wuk Lamat. Yes, she's naive, but we all start somewhere. An inexperienced leader is far less destructive than a malicious one. Koana is intelligent yes, but attempting to force progress on a society often leads to disaster. Its possible we might end up with another Allagan Empire under his rule, and we all know how that turned out. Zoraal Ja is indeed powerful, but as history often tells us, military commanders more often than not, don't make for a good leader of a nation, as the two positions need vastly different approaches to carry out their responsibilities. Bakool JaJa wants to plunge the entire nation back into war. It doesn't matter if its part of his culture or not, throwing the entire nation of Tural back into endless conflict with other nations is nothing more than senseless violence that has no point to it.
@davidpower5710
@davidpower5710 5 ай бұрын
Not sure how it feels like koana is attempting to force progress tho
@ruinparadox4812
@ruinparadox4812 5 ай бұрын
@@davidpower5710 Probably not the best word I could have used. My main concern is, yeah, he wants Tural to advance technologically, but is the nation ready for that? Like the place still has tribal leaders and such, are they capable of suddenly integrating Sharlayan technology into their everyday life? Progress is good, but too much progress in too short a time could easily lead to a collapse in the system. Overall, it could work, but how is Koana going to go about it?
@BaghNakh1
@BaghNakh1 5 ай бұрын
I agree. Wuk Lamat's naitivty and lack of experience are problems, yes, but none of them are as dangerous as the problems that the other aspirants could do to Tural. Bakool JaJa being the most dangerous by far, mainly because it straight up puts the rest of the nations in danger and right now, after the whole deal with the Final Days, the thing we need the least right now is to be threatened by another nation with aspirations of conquering and domination over others. Bakool JaJa should be seen as a potential threat to our homes. All Wuk Lamat needs is more time and experience to become a fine leader, things she'll inevitably gain with time.
@davidpower5710
@davidpower5710 5 ай бұрын
@@ruinparadox4812 depends on how he goes about it. Meny nations irl had managed to transform their nation in only 50 to 60 years smoothly. Which is extremely fast in the wider picture. But it could go very wrong like you said. It's mainly about Integrating the technology into the culture. Which isn't something I'm sure koana could do. Yet over all the other picks I think he maybe the best.
@callins7247
@callins7247 5 ай бұрын
I agree especially on the Koana part as we just recently had a real world example of moderninzing a more primitive society.
@OniScythe
@OniScythe 5 ай бұрын
Zoraal Ja would be my vote followed by Koana. Wookie's hearts in the right place but she needs to mature a little. She very well might throughout the msq.
@balgus82
@balgus82 5 ай бұрын
I'm thinking Thancred and Uri are teaming with the catboy. And honestly I'd probably go with him too with our current knowledge. The rothgal seems a bit naive for leadership.
@TheSwordsman100
@TheSwordsman100 5 ай бұрын
I will lend my sword to Wuk Lamat, not just because she asked but because she's honest and open to criticism. Traits that will allow her to grow into a good leader.
@GenericBanana25
@GenericBanana25 5 ай бұрын
I mean the game seemingly is making us do that anyway
@Sarantserel
@Sarantserel 5 ай бұрын
On the Dawntrail website, the very first thing mentioned about Zoraal Ja is that he is the "First Promise of Tulitollal". I was intrigued by what that meant so I went to look at the website in other languages. In japanese, he's instead described as the First Prince and in French, as the one biological child of Gulool Ja Ja. So I wonder if his uniqueness could stem from being the child of a Blessed Sibling.
@blushingralseiuwu2222
@blushingralseiuwu2222 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, he is basically just the first prince, the oldest and expected to succeed.
@Paraguai123
@Paraguai123 5 ай бұрын
Tuliyollal
@markup6394
@markup6394 5 ай бұрын
@@Paraguai123 The next expansion will drop before people will get that name right without looking it up...
@Chiropterran
@Chiropterran 5 ай бұрын
One claimant represent the possibility of progress, two represent a probable preservation of the status quo under Gulool Ja Ja, and one represents a regression. While I would prefer Koana's clear vision for a path forward, I anticipate that the three will unite against the blessed siblings. Or worse, one will fall to the blessed siblings before the two survivors unify to stop him. Of these, I anticipate Zoraal Ja will be targeted by Bakool Ja Ja in an effort to assert his prowess and take control of the Landsguard forces. Should he survive through the intervention of his siblings' allies from the east, he may cede his claim and become a powerful ally himself.
@DeusGamez
@DeusGamez 5 ай бұрын
one one hand Wuk Lamat comes off as too naive and too trusting i could see this leading to hardships for her people unless she sharpens her zeal an strengthens her resolve to serve and to lead. zoraal seems to understand duty and traditions an has served the throne likely has incite on how their government functions and works seem to be the most experienced overall but i feel like his flaw would be that he is narrow sighted an only looks within his borders failing to realize the benefits he could achieve if he branched out to their neighbors. Bakool we know seems to just be greedy an desires power for the sake of it going on with the "might makes right" mantra seems to be his character and his rule would likely be that of a tyrant crushing and disenfranchising the weak an raising up only the strong for his conquest to spill blood an forcefully claim resources. so while powerful i've no doubt he has the capability to lead his people to prosper and instead will only invoke rebellion and mistrust among them. and then last we have Koana, he seems pragmatic and intelligent and based on what limited info we have he does seem to be thinking towards the future of his home an its people an has ideas on what an ideal progression would look like however like with Wuk i believe he is probably incredibly naive and doesn't really understand the wants and desires of the people and they likely won't be as accepting to change with his revolution without convincing it would be to their benefit and enhance their already rich and prosperous way of being.
@DeusGamez
@DeusGamez 5 ай бұрын
so honestly if it comes down to it i'd say its a tie between Koana and Zoraal but i probably relate more to Koana and could see him as better leader overall to usher in a new age. but Zoraal is more comfortable and a face you know with the experience needed to lead the nation thru its battles but not see it change in any meaningful way basically he'd just keep the status quo and there is nothing wrong with that to be fair if things are good why change it ? some like their way of living just as it is.
@Wanderingsage7
@Wanderingsage7 5 ай бұрын
Personally I could follow either Wuk Lamant and Koana. Zalaa ja might have commissioned Estinien as his champion given the latter's position in the trailer. Baquul ja... I'm curious how he even plans to make it to Garlemald, much less survive the cold
@chrisanderson6353
@chrisanderson6353 5 ай бұрын
Hey Scirbe! Not a true lore question, but moreso a curiosity. Why do you think that the dev team used a rite of succession story arc as the genesis of their next epic narrative? Could the rite of succession in Tural, but the catalyst for a much larger journey that will arc throughout all the subsequent expansions? It's just interesting to me, that we're taking part in, which is essentially, the rite of passage of a nation.
@Typhoonflame
@Typhoonflame 5 ай бұрын
Probably Wuk Lamat...My WoL, and myself, would just want to preserve the peace and let the people live how they want.
@Garyof11
@Garyof11 5 ай бұрын
I give my answer only because she asked first but right now im behind Wuk Lamat because I like how earnest she is, but to be blunt I do not think she is ready for that leadership position yet. As we travel and learn more about her and how she interacts with her people I may change my stance, but right now she only has my support for business reasons alone. Zoraal Ja seems to be the most capable in my eyes. Yes he is military, but judging from the amount of support he has he resonates with the hearts of the people. My stance may change if we go over there and find out that people are just scared of him though, but I don't really get that impression yet. Bakool Jaja is just a disaster waiting to happen so even if he does bring his people great glory, in the long run they will piss off the wrong nation. Koana is a bit of an enigma. Being book smart doesn't mean you're automatically a great leader. Need to learn a bit more about him in order to form a proper opinion.
@williek08472
@williek08472 5 ай бұрын
Obviously I'm rooting for Wuk Lamat, but Koana seems cool enough to the point where I won't mind if he ends up taking the throne. Also, she states for a fact that Bakool Ja Ja is a warmonger who would sail across the Indigo Deep and conquer Eorzea, and thus he simply can't win
@manandtoy
@manandtoy 5 ай бұрын
My Main / WoL would back Koana, given a choice. Without a shadow of a doubt. They share the same desire for progress and the use of tech to 'improve lives'. But we all know how that can turn out. On paper Zoraal Ja seems like the most logical - he's mature and experienced in leadership, is already a protector of the people and seems to be well respected (from what we can tell). So something tells me he will be defeated with Koana and Wuk Lamat overcoming Bakool Ja Ja.
@wadeyyy
@wadeyyy 5 ай бұрын
My prediction is that throughout the story, Wuk Lamat will face the reality that she is not mature or experienced enough to rule, and essentially withdraw her bid for the throne. Then, after another contender has been crowned, something nefarious will occur and Wuk Lamat will show decisive bravery and leadership to overcome adversity, and the chosen Dawnservant will relinquish the crown for Wuk Lamat to rule instead.
@wildheaven1827
@wildheaven1827 5 ай бұрын
Im the fking warrior of light, i should be asking which of them i want to serve me.
@MrHP25
@MrHP25 5 ай бұрын
Noble as Koana seems, I would worry that rapid advancement of technology without allowing the culture to adjust to those advances will cause unforeseen and possibly disastrous consequences.
@pll3827
@pll3827 5 ай бұрын
In that case, it'll be interesting to see how Solution 9 will impact Tural politically. Given that it becomes a player hub, it'll end up more than just a remote set of ruins.
@WilliamTheWatchful
@WilliamTheWatchful 5 ай бұрын
To Wuk Lamat: "I love you. But grow up." To Koana: "Technology is incredible. But don't forget what's important to your people." To Zoraal Ja: * gangsta handshake * To Bakool Ja Ja: " H A N D S O F F M Y P R E Y . "
@eternalsummer8409
@eternalsummer8409 4 ай бұрын
Scions: we don’t do politics. Me: looking at the multiple dead politicians, rulers, and gods, and the changes in governments that we’ve been causing since arr
@DeadSpaceWing
@DeadSpaceWing 5 ай бұрын
Hard to serve someone when all the realm sees you as a king.
@Bydnelg
@Bydnelg 5 ай бұрын
I assume Wuk Lamat will take the thrown, because she has received the aid of the WoL. However, at present I think Koana is probably the best candidate.
@Theheadless1858
@Theheadless1858 5 ай бұрын
If conflict was so widespread maybe solution 9 was a solution to that conflict rather than a calamity.
@MelvaCross
@MelvaCross 5 ай бұрын
Wuk Lamat will be the next Hokage
@eastbow6053
@eastbow6053 5 ай бұрын
em are we forgetting the giant futuristic city that is basically their neighbors?
@SynodicScribe
@SynodicScribe 5 ай бұрын
Already did a Solution 9 video. lol
@Glenningway
@Glenningway 5 ай бұрын
Have a feeling either Koana wins by Wuk stepping aside, or the two headed guy cheats to "win" and starts a war with the Golden City.
@pokefreak480
@pokefreak480 5 ай бұрын
Anyone but Wuk Lamat
@jinnyplays
@jinnyplays 5 ай бұрын
Hiya. Would you ever cover the lore of Unukalhai? I have tried researching on my own but it seems confusing.
@SynodicScribe
@SynodicScribe 5 ай бұрын
I could certainly try. Might as well add a couple other characters from the 13th while I'm at it.
@jinnyplays
@jinnyplays 5 ай бұрын
@@SynodicScribe thank you so much :)
@markup6394
@markup6394 5 ай бұрын
Much Unukalhai is told in the post role quests story in ShB... I'd try my luck there if you havent done that yet...
@jinnyplays
@jinnyplays 5 ай бұрын
@@markup6394 oh thanks I will check them out for sure
@raymonddavis1566
@raymonddavis1566 5 ай бұрын
I'm backing Wuk Lamat, but I sincerely hope that she does not become another Lyse.
@LuthielValinor
@LuthielValinor 5 ай бұрын
I wish we were given the agency to pick the candidate we wanted to support. I would choose Konoa without a doubt. Wuk has a good heart, but I don't see leadership potential in her. Konoa has a vision, and the intelligence to see it through. Wuk's desire to take the throne seems more emotionally driven - she loves her father and just wants to keep things the way they are. She doesn't even have a concrete plan for obtaining even such a loosely defined goal. She seems like a figure it out as you go kind of person. Nothing about her inspires confidence, sadly.
@kiearawagner7901
@kiearawagner7901 5 ай бұрын
Also, another thing I feel that should be mention is her choice in allies. Instead of seeking strength in maybe herself, or her fellow countrymen, she went straight for the WoL herself. The Saivor of the Star. A living legend. Sure, that is impressive by itself, but also could lead into the "You only won because you had a near demi-god of a woman fighting for your cause." Realistically, I could see a lot of citizens of Tural questioning if Wuk would be a good leader by this choice alone, relying potentially too heavily on her champion rather than her own strength, and as such leads to questions of competency, because as was mentioned, eventually the WoL will leave like she has done before.
@ArchonZach
@ArchonZach 5 ай бұрын
Koana's lack of a unique outfit honestly makes me feel like he's not long for this world lol
@cablefeed3738
@cablefeed3738 5 ай бұрын
Let's see from what we know so far. There's: The racist, the dictator, the smart one, and the naive one. I would only l pick the smart one or the naive one.
@bigfoxki
@bigfoxki 5 ай бұрын
Typical composition of villains.
@youngecujoh855
@youngecujoh855 5 ай бұрын
We don't actually know if the Land guard is lead by a Dictator.
@hasseo195
@hasseo195 5 ай бұрын
The land lord is someone, whop only believe in himself and his own strenght. At last from the trailer. But, its hard to say, if he would be a dictator (that would fuse with the racist). Because, a other scene shows, how he speak about the importance of the normal people as the pillar of the nation. He looks more like a lone wolf typ, who tries to solve problems alone and without the help of others.
@leandroribeiro3626
@leandroribeiro3626 5 ай бұрын
Kay be a controversial take but, as much as I love Wuk Lamat I would like to see her lose so her character can be more than a "I want to be hokage" archetype and we can get to know her other dimensions.
@iceman3317
@iceman3317 5 ай бұрын
I like Wuk Lamat, but I am not sure she could lead a nation. At least not how she is now. I'd have to watch her grow. Koana... seems calming... but I don't know if he could do things correctly or if he is going to go down the wrong path. We don't know enough about 1 one headed Mamoo Ja so I am unsure on him. However, he seems to want to keep his father's legacy strong, similar to Wuk Lamat and seems to have a experienced mind. The two headed one... no. Because he wants to be a conqueror.
@Kyzoren
@Kyzoren 5 ай бұрын
Just as Wuk Lamat said, anyone but Bakool Ja Ja...
@bun-kitty-bun912
@bun-kitty-bun912 5 ай бұрын
Opinion changed, Koana=BBEG
@hasseo195
@hasseo195 5 ай бұрын
From the knowledge now, would i say, that Koana would be the most logical choice. His idea, about the evolution and future, looks like the right choice for the country. Good, they dont look much differently to Eozera. But, they are to primitiv combaired to country like Galemald. And, it was the science of Shayalan, that saved the planet (without them would the WoL never reached Endsinger). The one headced Lizard would be my second choice. He looks to be someone, who only count at himselfd and his own strenght. He looks to be someone, who tries to solve problems alone. But, the trailer shows him even as someone, who cares about the people. Or, at last understand therte importance (at last, if the trailers are not missleading). And, as the leader of the army, has he leading experience. Something, the others looks toi missing. The cat by other hand is someone, who carers very hard about the people. But, she looks to inexperience and weak, compaired to the Lizard. She looks to be his inferior version, with low battle experience and mind. And, it looks like, that she dont have a vision for the country. As a leader, is that not a good thing. The 2 headed lizard is a no go. He is arrogante and dint showed anything good as a leader. He is the worse choice from all.
@MajorShepard
@MajorShepard 5 ай бұрын
Koana is currently the best choice out of all of them, I like Wuk Lamat as she's cute and funny but she is *not* leader material as she is right now. Maybe through the Expac she will be but right now she is not, too focused on keeping it from her brother than having an actual idea of what she will do as a leader. Koana has the same desire to be the Dawn Servant but also has ideas and plans for when he becomes one, and really damn good ones. Going forward into progress rather than stagnating in the past is ALWAYS good as long as you pace yourself and not go full throttle into things. I really hate it when fantasy settings, including Final Fantasy, paint progress in a negative light or downright antagonistic/evil so I would love to see the opposite for a change.
@Rewwgh
@Rewwgh 5 ай бұрын
If I am a native, then I think Zoraal but if I am an outsider then probably Koana. Sorry Wuk!
@yukiotacon2846
@yukiotacon2846 5 ай бұрын
Personally, I would rather serve Wuk Lamat becasuse she is seems more open to change than the rest. The rest seem rather set in their ways which I find concerning. Koana and Bookul jaja especially. Koana seems so focus on modernizing Tural to which may lead to Tural losing it's cultural identinty just to advance the nation and well Bakool is pretty explanitory. Since I am not a fan of attitude. His everything should be mine because I am a blessed reminds me a certain major we killed back in the day . Pray we only have to humble him and not kill him
@helliethebabe9038
@helliethebabe9038 5 ай бұрын
Which ninja turtle will win?
@juicegirl2696
@juicegirl2696 4 ай бұрын
tataru for dawnservant
@Zoeila
@Zoeila 5 ай бұрын
NO ONE should force indiginous peoples to advance Koana is the antagonist here
@AFUZZYPANDA
@AFUZZYPANDA 4 ай бұрын
A lot if these comments aged poorly
@justaman381
@justaman381 5 ай бұрын
i'm bet on Wuk and Koana but not her present action, I think Zoraal Ja will be the best choice and something gonna happen to him force Wuk and Koana work together like 2 head Mamool ja. the last guy have very least chance because Scions is there, except he change mindset, grow up to learn others.
@reyjusuf
@reyjusuf 5 ай бұрын
I hope Zoraal Ja wins. The ones who petitioned foreigners to help shouldnt win and I expect Wuk Lamat and the Miqote to end up backing him against Bakool Ja Ja
@Meshawroo
@Meshawroo 5 ай бұрын
Logically thinking ... it would be better for a three-way rule if not a dual rulership as someone might be assassinated or self sacrificed during the conflict ... also, isn't it favorable to lore to have 2 heads ... 2 different viewpoints, one to prosper and another to hold self-worth ... technology advancements are well and good, but to ignore the heart of a nation in favor of moving forward, it'll be easy to forget one's self and lose the value of independence... sure, they are not as advanced, but the ppl are happy, so what is the harm of taking it slow in a time of peace ... build lasting connections and adapt at a steady pace, or all will crumble if the lessons of old are ignored
@Zanekael
@Zanekael 5 ай бұрын
I don't think Wuk Lamat wins. I think she's going to act as a heart or bridge between Koana and Zoraal Ja, and one of those two will win with the other as a second in command. Bakool Ja Ja will become a shared enemy who will be dead or exiled by the end. This seems like Wuk Lamat's goal anyway if the meal at the end of endwalkers patches are any indication.
@NotTheWheel
@NotTheWheel 5 ай бұрын
🤔Hmmm in an alternate history where the use of Black Rose is successful. Garlemald could have easily taken this opportunity for this war of succession to conquer the New World with little effort.
@mihreynylene5329
@mihreynylene5329 5 ай бұрын
Tbf, there won't be an actual choice inside the game to pick one of the 4 and making him/her the new leader. (sadly)
@YoursTrulyHero
@YoursTrulyHero 5 ай бұрын
Plot twist its us.
@henkohallows
@henkohallows 5 ай бұрын
TulioLOL ---> Tuliyollal
@Jai_dinn
@Jai_dinn 5 ай бұрын
idk
@DKarkarov
@DKarkarov 5 ай бұрын
Which ever one of them doesn't scream about how they will be the next hokage every five minutes. I will back that one. Oh wait... the game doesn't give you a choice and you are backing Naruto...
@Overdoseplus
@Overdoseplus 5 ай бұрын
Won't be long until Wuk is one of the expansion's villains. Works for me since I don't like Rothgars to begin with.
@dullahandan4067
@dullahandan4067 5 ай бұрын
Historically speaking do adopted heirs ever last long on the throne?
@liahknight56
@liahknight56 5 ай бұрын
Historically speaking its few and far-between. Most adopted heirs would've been excluded from succession, and the main examples we have of adopted rulers are those who were adopted in adulthood, or voted into the position. Dawnservant's succession isn't really predicated on blood so I don't expect Wuk Lamat's lineage to make much difference, maybe even a plus as its seen as her being under tutelage of a great leader.
@dullahandan4067
@dullahandan4067 5 ай бұрын
@@liahknight56 I am torn between what should happen based off logic and what will most likely happen based off what the writers want to happen. Going to have to turn off my brain this expansion most likely. EDIT NOTE: Okay rewatched cutscene and it is just naming a successor. OG King may be in power for a while still and plenty of time to assassinate unfriendly kings to be if needed.
@brycemoose7026
@brycemoose7026 5 ай бұрын
I'd say koana is the best bet sorry wuk lumat
@llKirosll
@llKirosll 5 ай бұрын
I'm calling now: Koana is an ascian. But not a bad one, just one who wants to better the land hi is in now that the unsundered are out f the picture. You know, just do his thing instead of being part of a greater plan :) I kid. But seriously, he is an ascian :) Now, if I had say in the matter: - Bakool Ja Ja is a no go. nothing else to say. - Wuk Lamat: too idealistic? too innocent to be a ruler? maybe. her mission is to stop her land return to the chaos of war. that could be archived by one or two of the others. - Zoraal Ja: I honestly had him and Bakool Ja Ja as the same person before this video :D. Don't really know his agenda. - Koana: Probably it is whom I would support. How far and how much he wants to sacrifice for progress is something that needs to be taken into account. But it would be my initial choice.
@Chaoskoch
@Chaoskoch 5 ай бұрын
Wuk Lamat so far seems like Lyse 2.0, just completely empty idealism with no concrete plan or actions or anything. "I want everyone to be happy!" might be a cute little slogan you can slap on your coffee cup, but that's not how nations work. Koana might be, from what little we know, someone who thinks technology will solve all problems of the human condition on its own, a claim that becomes more ridiculous as time goes on. Zoraal Ja is an important military leader in a very young nation, indicating at least some capabilities in regards to leadership and problem solving. Bakool Ja Ja is obviously set up as either a minor villain or a misguided rival, I would be surprised (pleasantly) if they give him more nuance than that. I'm probably going to stick to my gut feeling that Erenville will be some sort of lost hero or something and become the new Dawnservant. Let's hope they manage to give him an actual personality by then, because so far I'm not impressed or even interested in him at all.
@StrikerTVFang
@StrikerTVFang 5 ай бұрын
Bakool Ja Ja did nothing wrong!!!!
@BunnyWitchcraft
@BunnyWitchcraft 5 ай бұрын
Hot cat girl
@Hirowolfgang
@Hirowolfgang 5 ай бұрын
None of them. My WoL wants to stay well clear of politics. On account of not wanting to be framed for regicide. Again. Politics is a nasty field where even the most naive soon grow wiser about. After Endwalker she just wants a vacation. Without the world catching fire, and the only reason she's taking part is more to honor Emet and her role as [redacted].
@torkhi6349
@torkhi6349 5 ай бұрын
as long as its not the cat lady
@quadrata8382
@quadrata8382 5 ай бұрын
indeed, she's way up in the clouds and really don't bring any confidence at all as a thinking leader
@cablefeed3738
@cablefeed3738 5 ай бұрын
I would take the cat lady over the racist or the general.
@quadrata8382
@quadrata8382 5 ай бұрын
​@@cablefeed3738 The blessed one or w/e is a self-explanatory villain. The commander for the peacekeeping organization has the most capacity to lead as he's worked for and defended his own people according to what we know of him. Overall the choice that makes most sense.
@cablefeed3738
@cablefeed3738 5 ай бұрын
@@quadrata8382 Yes, currently with barely any information. He's the one that makes the most sense, which is why he's going to turn out to be the bad guy. And it's gonna either be the naive, one or the smart one
@TwirlingFoxspirit
@TwirlingFoxspirit 5 ай бұрын
Gay game
@InvictusRed1911
@InvictusRed1911 5 ай бұрын
Yes it is a very inclusive community indeed. Thanks for pointing it out during Pride 🙏🏾🏳️‍🌈
@TwirlingFoxspirit
@TwirlingFoxspirit 5 ай бұрын
@@InvictusRed1911 No worries at all!
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