The Four Horsemen HD: Hour 1 of 2 - Discussions with Richard Dawkins, Ep 1

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Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason & Science

Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason & Science

15 жыл бұрын

richarddawkins.net - On the 30th of September 2007, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens sat down for a first-of-its-kind, unmoderated 2-hour discussion, convened by RDFRS and filmed by Josh Timonen.
All four authors have recently received a large amount of media attention for their writings against religion - some positive, and some negative. In this conversation the group trades stories of the public's reaction to their recent books, their unexpected successes, criticisms and common misrepresentations. They discuss the tough questions about religion that face the world today, and propose new strategies for going forward.
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Books by these authors:
"The God Delusion" by Richard Dawkins
"The End of Faith" by Sam Harris
"Letter to a Christian Nation" by Sam Harris
"God is Not Great" by Christopher Hitchens
"Breaking the Spell: Religion as a Natural Phenomenon" by Daniel Dennett
Filmed and Edited by Josh Timonen

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@matthemmer7114
@matthemmer7114 9 күн бұрын
With only two of these men left, it's an honor to have this open discussion here on youtube. Long live Daniel and Hitch.
@leekmuynuts139
@leekmuynuts139 8 күн бұрын
Well said, stranger. Live long and prosper
@tehdii
@tehdii 8 күн бұрын
In this decade many of those who constituted my culture of thinking will be aging out ;( Those 15 years from this discussion have gone blindingly fast. Every old videos from Peterson to Hitch from Ted to podcasts are like postcards from past like great books, a nice poem from the specific period of our lives. I was 25 when I did watch this, I will miss every person religious or not that was with us through those videos in that journey called life.
@user-od7el8yc9k
@user-od7el8yc9k 4 күн бұрын
Noooo I wasn't even aware that professor Dennett passed away. Rest in piece.
@JR-zc5pz
@JR-zc5pz 4 жыл бұрын
Dawkins must've been so happy to sit next to his idol, Charles darwin.
@NomadUrpagi
@NomadUrpagi 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha wtf
@andreadiamond7115
@andreadiamond7115 4 жыл бұрын
For Union Forever Hurrah boys Hurrah ..... LMAO. 👏🏼👏🏼
@javajoe_gaming9923
@javajoe_gaming9923 4 жыл бұрын
Sprayed my soda on my laptop lmaooooo
@brandonstroudmusic
@brandonstroudmusic 4 жыл бұрын
Haha 😂
@larjkok1184
@larjkok1184 4 жыл бұрын
john connolly God is a moron.
@Soknik01
@Soknik01 2 жыл бұрын
Even after all these years it still hurts so much every time I'm reminded that Christopher is no longer with us. We miss you Hitch ❤️
@miguelruiz7
@miguelruiz7 2 жыл бұрын
Hes in heaven as Kurt Vonnegut would say!
@GOFFMEISTER
@GOFFMEISTER 2 жыл бұрын
@@miguelruiz7 No
@jesterc.6763
@jesterc.6763 2 жыл бұрын
@@miguelruiz7 He's debating God rn and he's winning.
@heidigone
@heidigone 2 жыл бұрын
@@jesterc.6763 hahaha1
@frankwillow-rogersjr.3253
@frankwillow-rogersjr.3253 2 жыл бұрын
Hi 'Sok--01', I miss Hitchens too; but since I am both an Atheist as well as an Existential, I well understand that though he(The Master) is no longer 'with-us'; he gave us his whole Being while here. We alone realize he actually is 'NoWhere'(see the organic disperse-ment of our own atoms and elements)--when we 'die' and rot-away, but NoLonger here. Master-Beings such as Mister Hitchens is otherwise 'extended' in leaps-and-bounds by those of us who fondly followed and remember him.
@EvgeniiNeumerzhitckii
@EvgeniiNeumerzhitckii Ай бұрын
Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens exemplify the pinnacle of spoken language skills. I haven't encountered anyone else who speaks English more eloquently while maintaining utmost clarity of thought. They reminded me of the often-forgotten fact that words carry meaning.
@willpolr
@willpolr 3 күн бұрын
Agreed. As a Brit I love the Hitch, but Sam Harris is equally eloquent. Harris is also able to criticise quite strongly without being nasty. Which is a very cool trait.
@Cap1talNumbers
@Cap1talNumbers 3 жыл бұрын
"Richard Dawkins and Christopher Hitchens spend an afternoon with Charles Darwin and Ben Stiller"
@zajournals
@zajournals 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously LOL 🙂
@innerdescent8210
@innerdescent8210 3 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 damn he does look like Ben Stiller here
@TarnTarn-zv6cp
@TarnTarn-zv6cp 3 жыл бұрын
Hee hee hee excellent
@TarnTarn-zv6cp
@TarnTarn-zv6cp 3 жыл бұрын
One direction after DMT
@franjograbovac3491
@franjograbovac3491 3 жыл бұрын
May as well.....these folk are as arrogant as it gets
@cooperristau1186
@cooperristau1186 7 жыл бұрын
Notice how they almost NEVER interrupt one another. Awesome to see 4 intellectuals have respect for each other
@techtipsuk
@techtipsuk 7 жыл бұрын
Market Hood called a conversation.
@zetetick395
@zetetick395 5 жыл бұрын
Actual adults, conversing on You Tube! :o
@kokosnotenXD
@kokosnotenXD 5 жыл бұрын
@@techtipsuk rare nowadays ;)
@bubnjarovski
@bubnjarovski 5 жыл бұрын
It's much easier when you agree with people 😉
@ms.bickerson8686
@ms.bickerson8686 4 жыл бұрын
"Would you mind if I disagree with you for a second" ..haha I agree, Cooper, so pleasant to watch
@tl6690
@tl6690 2 жыл бұрын
We lost a great man 10 years ago today. You'll never be forgotten. RIP Hitch!
@crespoopserc
@crespoopserc 2 жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Apollo-zo4vh
@Apollo-zo4vh Жыл бұрын
@KEPLER - 666 his mind is not conscious , so he's resting , forever .
@EpicLemonMusic
@EpicLemonMusic Жыл бұрын
@KEPLER - 666 he is basically in a forever coma with zero consciousness, Not so bad.
@lightbeing8174
@lightbeing8174 Жыл бұрын
@@EpicLemonMusic But jesus christ became alive again after the 3 day of being dead.
@EpicLemonMusic
@EpicLemonMusic Жыл бұрын
@@lightbeing8174 Nope, Jesus as a historical person never even existed in the first place. Another Myth of the bibles. But even if there was a jew named Jesus, he was never dead. Coulda been a coma, unconscious, brain dead, etc and the dumb ignorant peasants of ancient desert would have been known to the wiser.
@johnlogan772
@johnlogan772 2 жыл бұрын
I admire the way Richard Dawkins absorbs information and his appetite for knowledge is unfathomable.
@ovaismir6618
@ovaismir6618 11 ай бұрын
he doesnt know a lot
@davidkariu2330
@davidkariu2330 10 ай бұрын
@@ovaismir6618 unlike you, he knows quite alot.
@ovaismir6618
@ovaismir6618 10 ай бұрын
@@davidkariu2330 you talk like his disciple.
@longstrobe2547
@longstrobe2547 9 ай бұрын
​@@ovaismir6618you are right, wise men know they know nothing but unfortunately fools think they know everything.
@ovaismir6618
@ovaismir6618 9 ай бұрын
@@longstrobe2547 I am glad you realised he is a fool
@AProtoHuman
@AProtoHuman 10 жыл бұрын
This is like a support group for educated rational people.
@markbaker5599
@markbaker5599 4 жыл бұрын
It's a damn shame that comment only has 30 likes
@daviddawson1718
@daviddawson1718 4 жыл бұрын
@@markbaker5599 but its having a good day, I nearly spit coffee when I read it.
@gman4074
@gman4074 4 жыл бұрын
You mean death and hopelessness
@donmckechnie9858
@donmckechnie9858 4 жыл бұрын
AProtoHuman and curious people.
@daviddawson1718
@daviddawson1718 4 жыл бұрын
@@gman4074 please live a long happy life a long way me and my rational friends.
@jamiewilson2088
@jamiewilson2088 3 жыл бұрын
Hitchens speaks so beautifully, never a word misplaced. A true joy and a pleasure to watch/listen.
@TonyEnglandUK
@TonyEnglandUK 2 жыл бұрын
He is the guy they will be quoting centuries from now. If religion lasts that long.
@Shiggystardust
@Shiggystardust 2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyEnglandUK unfortunately it will. Humans will never grow up and accept that death is apart of life
@liljee16
@liljee16 2 жыл бұрын
I always say to myself if I could have Hitchens’ words with Harris’s even tone and pace, I would be president of the world. Unachievable goals but worth wishing for.
@RCardone82
@RCardone82 Жыл бұрын
Fo. Sho.
@philsymes
@philsymes Жыл бұрын
@@Shiggystardust Sadly you are right and they will persecute or murder anyone who thinks for themselves if they can get away with it.
@AliceAttentionWhore
@AliceAttentionWhore 2 жыл бұрын
Timestamps (Topics discussed): 00:00 Accusations of Arrogance 09:15 Spirituality and Numinosity 13:47 Perceived Arrogance of Science 14:59 Doubt 16:36 Tricks and Invalid Ways of Thinking 22:26 Good in Religion 23:58 Sophisticated Theologians 27:34 Bishops and Vicars 28:44 Moderation 31:19 Professionals and Amateurs 34:47 Authority 37:09 Mystery 45:04 The Faith Card 47:32 Scientific Disproof of God 48:33 Magic Books 50:56 Challenging Arguments Against Atheism
@mrwobblytickle
@mrwobblytickle 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Alice!
@abhyudayrahi3569
@abhyudayrahi3569 2 жыл бұрын
thank you very much!
@7octillionatoms476
@7octillionatoms476 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you @AliceAttentio…
@Benderrr111
@Benderrr111 2 жыл бұрын
Nice screen name. Here's a bag of attention for you --> 👜
@mohamedaslam7809
@mohamedaslam7809 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks ❤️
@patrickkelly5004
@patrickkelly5004 Жыл бұрын
15+ years, and this conversation becomes more relevant with each passing day. Yes, I miss Hitch's contributions to public discourse. On an even more positive note, it was this conversation that led me to Sam Harris.
@haleyguthrie3113
@haleyguthrie3113 3 ай бұрын
Could you imagine Hitches reaction to this current state of affairs in America? "That's offensive'' has only gotten worse
@LeoAveiro
@LeoAveiro 4 жыл бұрын
Sam harris looks like he greenscreened himself into the living room
@keanus6873
@keanus6873 3 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment
@HK_Musician
@HK_Musician 3 жыл бұрын
Hilarious and accurate 😂
@joeyclark421
@joeyclark421 3 жыл бұрын
WOW!!!!! you can't unsee it
@barzastephanski4559
@barzastephanski4559 3 жыл бұрын
Shapeshifter
@michaeldee7046
@michaeldee7046 3 жыл бұрын
loooooooooooooooooooooooooool
@tayzlor
@tayzlor 9 жыл бұрын
How I adore hearing hitch speak
@jaysuseffinkrist
@jaysuseffinkrist 9 жыл бұрын
We are the better men for having heard and understood. The world is less since he is gone, but infinitely more because of what he left for us to pick up, and carry on. Carry on his torch, proudly, unyielding, for the victory, however elusive, is always on the path of the righteous men.
@noodlyappendage5328
@noodlyappendage5328 9 жыл бұрын
Harris actually became more eloquent in the presence of Hitchens as opposed to his normally direct, blunt way of speaking. No offense at all meant to Harris. He's incredibly intelligent as well. However, Hitchens was in a league of his own.
@erictk869
@erictk869 9 жыл бұрын
SeriouslyKidding Beautifully put. He will never be replaced. Like Stephen Fry, John Cleese, Michael Buerk, David Attenborough.
@jaysuseffinkrist
@jaysuseffinkrist 9 жыл бұрын
trexfan2 ilovetoboogie Thanks! :-D
@VENIVIDIVICl
@VENIVIDIVICl 8 жыл бұрын
+SeriouslyKidding bit gay
@Favorites1
@Favorites1 28 күн бұрын
Still watching 2024
@blackbird35116
@blackbird35116 Жыл бұрын
Still miss Hitch, but listening to these 4 is a breath of fresh air.
@cnn8420
@cnn8420 Жыл бұрын
One of them turned out to be a joke. Guess which one? LOL
@Kryptix
@Kryptix Жыл бұрын
@Allan No they were not
@goodvibes-gy3jn
@goodvibes-gy3jn 6 ай бұрын
@@cnn8420I’m actually curious which one think that is? I disagree with you regardless because none of them turned out to be jokes but I’d like to know which one.
@SCQT
@SCQT 5 жыл бұрын
one of the better uses of the internet so far
@pranavlimaye
@pranavlimaye 4 жыл бұрын
I agree. I should probably spend less time looking at memes, and more time listening to awesome discussions like these....
@lovehumanity5964
@lovehumanity5964 4 жыл бұрын
Net teacher mean to tell sheep from the goat !
@2fast2block
@2fast2block 3 жыл бұрын
Manitou, they are just four fools. Hitch who pretends to know the bible as he screws up on it over and over again including what faith means biblically. ---"Faith is the surrender of the mind, it's the surrender of reason, it's the surrender of the only thing that makes us different from other animals. It's our need to believe and to surrender our skepticism and our reason, our yearning to discard that and put all our trust or faith in someone or something, that is the sinister thing to me. ... Out of all the virtues, all the supposed virtues, faith must be the most overrated”--- Christopher Hitchens Now, look at what biblical faith really means that Hitch the dumbass didn't even look at: Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust by evidence seen. God asks that we prove things. To reason. To get knowledge. To study. God has nothing to hide. We develop trust from what is seen, and that which is not seen yet is trusted also because of the trust built up from what is seen. It's much like a human relationship. We don't trust much until a person has gained that trust from what is observed. The difference is though, God is not limited to human powers. He created us. Romans 1:20 For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities-his eternal power and divine nature-have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse. crossexamined.org/biblical-faith-vs-blind-faith/ www.truthortradition.com/articles/what-does-the-bible-say-about-faith www.revisedenglishversion.com/Appendix/16/Faith_is_Trust www.truthortradition.com/articles/faith-a-confident-expectation-of-gods-promises-coming-to-pass www.truthortradition.com/articles/hebrews-1-11-and-faith Hitchens always went into evasive word farting to avoid key questions like how we got the creation of the universe. Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it. We can't even get science without God. The laws of nature only can come from a Lawgiver, God. Only fools follow dumbass Hitchens.
@SCQT
@SCQT 3 жыл бұрын
@@2fast2block um, ok. Sorry but that last paragraph is just, wow. The world takes all kinds, i guess, and we could not be more different. "Real science says nothing does nothing" typed on an electronic computer, sent over the internet. Dont mean to insult you, but your seeming understanding of what science even is, is deluded and tenuous at best. Glad faith works for you, but it means absolutely nothing positive to me.
@2fast2block
@2fast2block 3 жыл бұрын
@@SCQT "Dont mean to insult you, but your seeming understanding of what science even is, is deluded and tenuous at best." Let me know when you actually have some evidence against what I wrote besides your word farts to fill in space.
@lenloving
@lenloving 5 жыл бұрын
“What if I’m wrong?” (15:15) I asked my (former) pastor, “What if you’re wrong?” His response: “I’m not.” My reply, “Not even a chance?” ...”None,” he asserted. I was excused from his office and church shortly thereafter.
@col8179
@col8179 4 жыл бұрын
He will burn in hell. Just kidding he will only rot in the ground that’s all.
@pranavlimaye
@pranavlimaye 4 жыл бұрын
Oh how much I hope for the next generation of religious people to be less arrogant and more logical....
@nomore5668
@nomore5668 4 жыл бұрын
@@pranavlimaye Or no religion at all.
@pranavlimaye
@pranavlimaye 4 жыл бұрын
@@nomore5668 yup why not. We can hope
@nikolakolchakov5691
@nikolakolchakov5691 4 жыл бұрын
Well your pastor is subjectively right. He truly believes and taking that from him could potentially make him miserable. The problem comes when you impose your subjective truth to other people. Tolstoy was not a stupid person, in the essay "A Confession" in his late life after heavy suicidal depression he turns into religion, finding some meaning (He saw and experienced a lot in his life). Is this "self-illusion tale" bad ? Not necessarily.
@akshatvyas7387
@akshatvyas7387 7 ай бұрын
I can listen to Christopher Hitchens all day...His way of speaking is ever so enchanting
@MosesRabuka
@MosesRabuka 2 жыл бұрын
“Confusion and suffering may be our birthright but wisdom and happiness are available”
@Dogg1512
@Dogg1512 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent Discourse. Rest easy Christopher
@2fast2block
@2fast2block 4 жыл бұрын
The dumbass is dead, not resting.
@pranavlimaye
@pranavlimaye 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fast2block oh waaait a minute.... Don't you sheep believe in souls? In an afterlife? Don't you Christians say "rest in peace" to the dead? Boom, gotcha. You just contradicted your own faith and will therefore *BURN IN HELL!*
@2fast2block
@2fast2block 4 жыл бұрын
@@pranavlimaye "Boom, gotcha." All you've got is a dumb ass syndrome. "In an afterlife?" Just as I said, the dumbass is dead. He's not anywhere. There is no conscience. Even Christians are DEAD. Rather than explain anything to a bozo like you, show that you know what the bible is saying. For years I used to go through verses you dumbasses have no idea what you're talking about and clarify things in not only the context, but the whole picture. Then the dumbasses would just deny it all even though they had no proof why and go to anther bible subject they were dumbasses about. The bible says the fools have no delight in understanding. This shows even with the beginning, creation. Fools set their pattern from the beginning that they don't care about being logical, honest and scientific in their approach to the evidence, they just want what they want and to hell with truth. So, show that you cherish a good pattern about creation and what follows.Show that you went through the bible and just didn't jump around but started with a logical process. Did you ever read the first verse of the bible about the supernatural creation done by the supernatural creator, God? If you want to mock God, then you should have great evidence that creation happened all on its own. There is NO proof of that. Only a fool will even think that and accept it. Once that's accepted, then all the rest of foolish thoughts not caring about details will follow. Here is a great example of what a fool accepts. They started it by accepting a natural creation and is not embarrassed to show their ignorance from that point on. So if you want to pretend you know what the bible says and took it in a sequential manner to understand it (which generally how books go), then show what a real bible expert you are and how much you love reasoning by giving evidence that creation happened differently from how the bible says it happened.
@chingoputoh7969
@chingoputoh7969 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fast2block Blah blah blah, you got nothing and are just deflecting from that. Go away.
@2fast2block
@2fast2block 4 жыл бұрын
@@chingoputoh7969 "Blah blah blah, you got nothing and are just deflecting from that. Go away." How are you to understand what happens after life when you don't care to know about why we have this life? Anyone can say anything. There is a logical way to approach things besides your "Blah blah blah,". We have life in this universe, a universe that got here somehow. Are you with me so far or is the hurting your brain capacity? Biblically, faith means trust. It's a trust based on reasonable evidence. Faith (trust) comes by hearing the word of God. I don't trust God because I could disprove what He said in the bible. You don't like me saying how the bible starts with a supernatural creation. You fart out, "you got nothing and are just deflecting from that. Go away." I already said "So if you want to pretend you know what the bible says and took it in a sequential manner to understand it (which generally how books go), then show what a real bible expert you are and how much you love reasoning by giving evidence that creation happened differently from how the bible says it happened." If I've "got nothing" and you have something, then give your version how we got the universe without God. Or, just keep rubbing your pussy acting as if you are smart.
@ladyfili58
@ladyfili58 4 жыл бұрын
Still watching...2020 💙💙💙💙
@rc3151
@rc3151 3 жыл бұрын
It is even better now. Incredible conversation.
@safaroneall
@safaroneall 3 жыл бұрын
+
@mattm1686
@mattm1686 3 жыл бұрын
Yes never forget!
@BradWatsonMiami
@BradWatsonMiami 3 жыл бұрын
There's no such thing as 'their god' or 'our god', there's One GOD. GOD: everything, everywhere & everyone: Father, Mother, Son, Daughter & Holy Spirit - the Holy Cross(5 letters)). System-as-a-whole/all of Nature. All-seeing Father Sun sends energy, heat, light & information to Mother Earth & mOOn: Sun + Earth + Moon = ooo = god. Universe as omniscient quantum super-computer/Akashic Records/Zero-Point Field/Lahw-i Mahfoos/†he 1 Mind. The Truth & Justice. The Greater GOOD. 12 aspects of time + infinite hydrogen + infinite universes + infinite pain & pleasure. - Seal #5 See 7seals.blogspot.com - only the returned Christ & Albert Einstein reincarnated could produce that. It's triggered The Apocalypse/Revelation which is NOT the 'end of the world'. On Feb. 11, COVID-19 was added to Seal #4: S=19 (18.6) Theory.
@henrywiafe418
@henrywiafe418 3 жыл бұрын
Same here
@blacksabbathmatters3365
@blacksabbathmatters3365 2 жыл бұрын
This is absolutely brilliant. I'm so grateful that this was captured on video. These men are extraordinary.
@MultiBikerboy1
@MultiBikerboy1 2 жыл бұрын
You do know that Sam Harris has recently stated he has been contacted by high up bods in the US military to help get the information out that there are ‘unidentifiable craft’ in the airspace. There’s a good chance that these craft might have been around for decades and possibly thousands of years. He says ‘we may owe some people an apology’. Shame Hitch is no longer around to get the update on this. Ancient people might have been telling the truth all along….well I never !😃
@jamesevans909
@jamesevans909 2 жыл бұрын
@@MultiBikerboy1 Atheist do not rule out the existence of other intelligent life, quite the opposite; religion professes that humans are created and the only "creation" of meaningful life. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make.
@MultiBikerboy1
@MultiBikerboy1 2 жыл бұрын
@James Evans my point James is that ancient people most likely saw these craft as well and treated the occupants as gods. The truth that they exist is now rolling out in the US after decades of denial, and they (wisely IMHO) have got thinkers like Sam Harris to help brief it out to the masses. If you are familiar with the Christmas song by Chris Deberg ‘A spaceman came travelling’ it spells it out exactly. How am I so sure these craft exist? Well I saw one albeit for only 4 secs one evening in the 70’s. I’ve been waiting for over 50 years for the great fess up to take place. Humanity needs to know at last.
@baltoandtogo
@baltoandtogo Жыл бұрын
Agreed. And also, yes, Black Sabbath does matter.
@ANNIHILATOR135
@ANNIHILATOR135 11 ай бұрын
@@jamesevans909 imagine believing crazy aliens on the stars , but ridiculing others for reasonable thinking.
@koulster2
@koulster2 2 жыл бұрын
Many of my wounds of my psyche got healed while listening to this conversation. I owe big to these four gentlemen after this conversation. I don't know much about these gentlemen, but what said (and the way they said it) won my heart over. Thank you whoever made this video available.
@jackwhitbread4583
@jackwhitbread4583 9 ай бұрын
Strongly recommend you watch more of these vastly intelligent men or read some of their books. Dawkins on particular is one of my favourite authors, he is very articulate and his books very well written.
@kidglort9396
@kidglort9396 4 жыл бұрын
I've watched this before, and I'll tell you what; I'll watch it again.
@pranavlimaye
@pranavlimaye 4 жыл бұрын
If enough of us try to follow in the footsteps of these 4, one of us might actually succeed. To the next generation of anti-theists!
@ryanspurlock9516
@ryanspurlock9516 4 жыл бұрын
Y’all make me wonder if humans can’t help but have a god. Some of these commenters have definitely defied these men. I don’t mean this disrespectfully either. I genuinely wonder now if we can’t help it but make gods in our lives.
@pranavlimaye
@pranavlimaye 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanspurlock9516 do you mean deified?
@ryanspurlock9516
@ryanspurlock9516 4 жыл бұрын
Pranav Limaye yes. I apologize for the mess up. My phone autocorrected the word.
@pranavlimaye
@pranavlimaye 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanspurlock9516 alright. Well, I would say that we humans have an intrinsic tendency to join like-minded communities built on the appreciation of common heroes. But I believe that if we keep an open mind, and even criticize our idols (like these 4 gentlemen) on their shortcomings, we WILL have the right to confidently say, "No. I am not deifying this person. It's merely respect and appreciation, and this is very much unlike the deification of kings, popes, etc."
@qpSubZeroqp
@qpSubZeroqp 3 жыл бұрын
I keep coming back to this every couple of years and I want to thank everybody involved in making this meet happen
@leonardburca1154
@leonardburca1154 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for writing this comment and thanking them. I also find this a very beautiful part of not being religious anymore. Instead of always thanking god for everything I actually spend time thinking about all the hard work of everyday people in making great things happen, and sometimes thanking them too. It’s such a beautiful thing for another person to get acknowledgement, rather than a god
@chrismullaney9042
@chrismullaney9042 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonardburca1154 I'm not particularly religious, but I am spiritual and give thanks for the blessings of ambition which I did not choose to have, but was gifted with at birth. The Greeks had a word, "hubris" which meant not just pride, but the prideful ignorance in thinking that one can accomplish anything without having been given the gift of ambition and other tools necessary for success (a teacher to show you how to apply yourself, the resources in your area that you can exploit, . They suggest "the gods" give these tools, but I prefer the term "higher power", whom I make no claims as to their characteristics other than as the original spark that got the whole thing moving. Do you believe that you choose to push food through your digestive system? Are you responsible for every blink of your eye? Did you choose the conditions of your birth, including your parents and region you were born in? Do you leave no room in your world for a creator or even a narrator of sorts of the events in your life which you have no control over? Does the fact that this world was created imply a creator? Forget about all the fantastical abilities ascribed to such a creator being but various religions, but can we at least agree that the big bang occurred and that at least is worth giving thanks for? Imagine if it had not transpired. I don't mind appreciating others for their accomplishments, but I also recognize everyone was given different life experiences that lead to their motivations and potentialities, and we should be thankful for the blessings we have no control over.
@andygirone7442
@andygirone7442 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrismullaney9042 that's silly you wouldn't be blessed or gifted with ambition, it's a sin, biblically speaking of course, or was before the awakening of religion.
@chrismullaney9042
@chrismullaney9042 2 жыл бұрын
@@andygirone7442 is this a joke? It's tough to tell on the emotionally flat platform of a KZbin comment section.
@andygirone7442
@andygirone7442 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrismullaney9042 is what a joke? Sin? Blessings? Gifts? Which one is a joke to you? Ambition possiblity? Do babies that fail to thrive fall under the gifted or blessed? Or did the "higher power" that shall not be named feel them unworthy of the sinful ambition? I wonder about adults who all of a sudden lose ambition, did the "higher power" take it away? How would you know? You made the claim that ambition is a gift and or blessing. prove it's not a "sin" instead the burden is on you. Or what maybe ambition is a burden that you were cursed with? Does the "higher power" that shall not be named do curses?
@politicsnerd169
@politicsnerd169 2 жыл бұрын
These types of conversations really changed the way I see the world. True geniuses!
@dorothysay8327
@dorothysay8327 2 жыл бұрын
Learn the difference between intelligent, and genius. There are NO geniuses on this panel; just very talented intellectuals. Hitchens was also a very gifted writer. None of them -- not ONE of them! -- ever debated a religious intellectual on their level. And they are out there…just couldn’t be bothered.
@reinarforeman6518
@reinarforeman6518 2 жыл бұрын
@@dorothysay8327 what people didn't they debate? Hitchins, famously, clashed with anyone who wanted a piece of him. Please name an intelectual "on his level" that he feared?
@politicsnerd169
@politicsnerd169 2 жыл бұрын
@@dorothysay8327 I mean I'm probably being a little hyperbolic when I say genius but you know what I mean just very intelligent people having conversations about interesting things
@traviskeeler4533
@traviskeeler4533 2 жыл бұрын
@@dorothysay8327 Who couldn't be bothered? Them? Or the "Religious Intellectuals? And Hitchens HAS debated some very serious people. Rabbi David Wolpe is no intellectual lightweight. I don't subscribe to his views but he articulates them as well as anyone in the business. Not one of them ever "ducked" debating anyone of consequence. If the "Serious Theologians" you speak of were not debated...it was their choice. And probably because they knew the inevitable outcome.
@Pat315
@Pat315 Жыл бұрын
@@dorothysay8327 There are no religious individuals who could match their intellect.
@simpaticode
@simpaticode 2 жыл бұрын
3:20 Hitchens is all like, "We should use the outrage card when they criticize our positions, since they do it," and Harris is like "But do we really feel offended or is it just wrong?" Hitchens hmms and haws and Harris (wisely) takes a silent sip of his drink. Really a lovely moment, and it makes me think more highly of them both, one for their pure integrity, and the other for seeing an impure angle and pragmatic enough to possibly use it.
@darksoul479
@darksoul479 4 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Christopher Hitchens. 12/15 2011 The world misses you.
@pranavlimaye
@pranavlimaye 4 жыл бұрын
I am curious to see whether the next generation (us) will produce an aggressive intellectual even CLOSE to Hitchens' level. With the problem of climate change deniers, flat earthers, etc. only getting worse, we need a lot of people like him
@SavedbyHim
@SavedbyHim 4 жыл бұрын
I think you will find that his views and beliefs will become quickly irrelevant as science advances. I'm sure his family misses him though...
@pranavlimaye
@pranavlimaye 4 жыл бұрын
@@SavedbyHim to the contrary, i believe that people will find your views to be irrelevant as scientific literacy keeps increasing. I've been reading your other comments on this video, and you have a VERY outdated (much like your religion) opinion about atheism. Atheism has NOTHING to do with what we think about love. I guarantee you, most atheists believe that love is a beautiful (almost....sacred) emotion resulting from complex events in the brain and body. Love was never about logic or reason. So yes, it's "irrational" for robots maybe but we aren't robots so we don't care. Love is cool.
@khumomatlakane2009
@khumomatlakane2009 3 жыл бұрын
@@pranavlimaye so beautifully put
@pranavlimaye
@pranavlimaye 3 жыл бұрын
@@khumomatlakane2009 thank you :)
@Theforsakenmedia
@Theforsakenmedia 10 жыл бұрын
Wish Hitchens would have put down the cigarettes. :( He would probably be here if he had. He is my one and only hero. He is sorely missed.
@Amazistringsmusic
@Amazistringsmusic 4 жыл бұрын
He died as he lived and in my eyes he brought more to the world than many people do in nearly twice his years. Rest easy Hitch
@SuddenStorm982
@SuddenStorm982 4 жыл бұрын
@Bloodraven Guess what Hitch would have said to you about the sig idea 😁
@Jake007123
@Jake007123 4 жыл бұрын
The brightest candles burn faster.
@DjAlanBarratt
@DjAlanBarratt 4 жыл бұрын
Just enjoy cancer
@mylesprobus1253
@mylesprobus1253 4 жыл бұрын
Fuck heroes
@kstoneace
@kstoneace 2 жыл бұрын
I am so sorry we lost Christopher Hitchens. He is one of the best debaters and most knowledgeable about his subject matter I have ever heard. I truly miss him.
@8964TS
@8964TS 9 күн бұрын
RIP Dan. Just two of the four remain now.
@HufflepunkNya
@HufflepunkNya 11 жыл бұрын
Whenever I grow weary of people's reaction to my atheism, even when I take pains to avoid starting an argument, I come here. It's nice to know that at some point in time, people as reasonable and composed as this have shared their ideas with the world. It gives me hope for the future.
@kabirchattopadhyay533
@kabirchattopadhyay533 3 жыл бұрын
@Hufflepunk I believe it is gullible, conspiracy theory-sharing cretins like this "All Seeing Eye of" whatever who make you feel weary. Do not worry, my friend. There are more of us than fanatical cultists like these in the world. :)
@kabirchattopadhyay533
@kabirchattopadhyay533 3 жыл бұрын
@AllSeeingEye ofGod It's almost cute how much effort you put in to sound mildly lucid on the internet. Also, I would rather read the back of a dozen Kelloggs cornflakes packets than go through misinformed drivel from someone with a troll account online, mate, thanks.
@skyblue9991
@skyblue9991 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that this video has 1 million views brings a smile to my face and fills me with hope for humanity.
@jackdarby2168
@jackdarby2168 3 жыл бұрын
O.k🙄
@jackdarby2168
@jackdarby2168 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnmiltonkeynes by "species" do you mean animals or different types of humans
@millardfilmore1403
@millardfilmore1403 3 жыл бұрын
Considering Gangnam Style has over a billion views, I am much less filled with hope for humanity...
@skyblue9991
@skyblue9991 3 жыл бұрын
@@millardfilmore1403 Why'd you have to go and ruin it?? 😅
@jackdarby2168
@jackdarby2168 3 жыл бұрын
@@millardfilmore1403 mate Hope, faith and charity are not optional in any sense. They are a must. If my memory services these are Theological virtues which are superior to the Cardinal Virtues like courage, temperance, prudence etc.
@musicauthority674
@musicauthority674 5 ай бұрын
All four of these gentlemen are highly intelligent and greatly respect each other. it's great to see all four of these intellectual men together. having a conversation about such important topics. it's so sad and a shame that Christopher Hitchens is no longer with us. he is definitely missed.
@tOoAtEa
@tOoAtEa Жыл бұрын
These four are so brilliant, sharing ideas and input... just a constant even flow of logic and listening. Proof reasonable people still exist. One of my favs to revisit often bc my roommates are bonkers.
@henryscots6615
@henryscots6615 Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You must be one hell of a no-brainer.
@jackwhitbread4583
@jackwhitbread4583 9 ай бұрын
​@@henryscots6615whoever you loaned your single brain cell please tell them you need it back!
@seancpp
@seancpp 3 жыл бұрын
even 11 years later this is still the greatest conversation ever recorded. The combined mental power in this room is staggering
@TonyEnglandUK
@TonyEnglandUK 2 жыл бұрын
I belong in that room. Those guys must have needed a coffee at some point.
@kend7597
@kend7597 2 жыл бұрын
@@TonyEnglandUK 😂😂
@electricrice
@electricrice 2 жыл бұрын
If you think this is one of the greatest conversations ever you really need to broaden your horizons
@smet9922
@smet9922 2 жыл бұрын
@@electricrice any on your horizons you might recommend?
@electricrice
@electricrice 2 жыл бұрын
This interview is brand new and I think it's a very good place to start kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqK8m6aCmMt4Z8k
@AndrewDzula
@AndrewDzula 4 жыл бұрын
The 4 horsemen, Christopher Hitchens, Charles Darwin, Sam Harris and Richard Dawkins, my heroes!! Great video!
@rasmith_99
@rasmith_99 2 жыл бұрын
And they all have the IQ of a horse.
@r8revolver773
@r8revolver773 2 жыл бұрын
@@rasmith_99 How childish
@rasmith_99
@rasmith_99 2 жыл бұрын
@@r8revolver773 except for Harris. He’s got the IQ of a turnip.
@rasmith_99
@rasmith_99 2 жыл бұрын
@Jhulir Harris book is circular reasoning. It’s complete garbage. And been easily pointed out and debunked.
@rasmith_99
@rasmith_99 2 жыл бұрын
@Jhulir the scientific community; peer reviews.
@hassansyed6087
@hassansyed6087 8 ай бұрын
Imagine the linguistic and emotional intelligence of Christopher Hitchens What a classy human. A true cigar wielding, tailored suited & booted, blunt individual who will not let anything sneak past him when it comes to truth.
@jettaca88
@jettaca88 2 жыл бұрын
The brilliance these four men have is just awe inspiring.
@benko916
@benko916 9 жыл бұрын
I would have give anything to be a fly on the wall during this filming. 4 of the most brilliant minds on planet earth, living and deceased. My true heroes and inspiration!! I am a huge fan of all 4. Thank you for posting this, Richard Dawkins!!! Now go write a new book I can buy!!!!
@valgehiir
@valgehiir 9 жыл бұрын
Acey Hadrian we are flies on the wall :)
@carpejkdiem
@carpejkdiem 9 жыл бұрын
Flies on what? Bravo You'd think by your words you veiw them 4 as gods themselves with that idolatry. The Irony is amazing (Dawkins is a pompous bitter man)
@benko916
@benko916 9 жыл бұрын
carpejkdiem By your logic, because I appreciate the work and intellect of someone, therefore I view them as a god??? Some logic, you must be a theist. Thats cool tho, you can be whatever you want to be. But dont assume because it just makes you look stupid. No I dont view any HUMAN as a god, I dont believe in god because god does not exist..... Do you believe in Zeus, Apollo, Huitzilopotchli, Thor, Dionysus, Athena, Horus, Mithra, and Krishna????? DO you??? If you do not then you are an Atheist when it comes to those gods. Because you do not believe in them, therefore you are an atheist when it comes to them. You See I just go one god further. Now please have a nice night and do not assume and make stupid statements because you just look dumb Thanks
@carpejkdiem
@carpejkdiem 9 жыл бұрын
Acey Hadrian Don't get me started. Now you're just being foolish and speaking from plain ignorance. And it's definitely not bliss!- blessings2u
@benko916
@benko916 9 жыл бұрын
carpejkdiem ROFL haha speaking of ignorance, you sure are one to talk. You have to compartmentalize the juxtaposition of your faith and science, or you just dont believe in science at all, I dont know because I dont know you, so I dont know what you believe, and I dont care, because your beliefs are your own, and are not scientific facts. You speak of nonsense, I am very well versed in religion, I have a degree in religious studies, and I just wrote my dissertation on the Second Great Awakening, where I argue that BECAUSE of the 2nd Great Awakening, is why we have all the Splinter Protestant Denominations today. Why Christianity is so wide spread and how Charles Finney changed Christianity forever, just like Martin Luther and John Calvin did during the Protestant Reformation. When the Original version (Catholicism) of Christianity split into two. I know the Old Testament and New Testament extremely well, especially the History of Religion. So I hope I did get you started, because I think this conversation just got interesting. Please I would love to hear your input. You call me foolish for pointing out a VALID point. And you cant take it..... Bring it Buddy :) But Please have a nice evening :) :) :)
@konberner170
@konberner170 9 жыл бұрын
Richard's mind is so amazing. That question about 55:30 around "if you decide that fooling people is better than harming them with facts, do you also apply that to yourself and fool yourself?" is exactly how to put a sharp point on this issue. If you would not fool yourself and still like to fool others, what does that say about your opinion of others? I think that Hitch really gets this, and that is why he was a no holds barred critic. That is the only respectful position to take, no matter how you cut it.
@RobertJohnson_Zeppo
@RobertJohnson_Zeppo 9 жыл бұрын
I am watching this delightful conversation and imagining that these men are conversing about theism and statism as if one were indistinguishable from the other. My problem with atheism.
@konberner170
@konberner170 9 жыл бұрын
Robert Johnson Amen! I had the same thought.. about 30 times ;) So glad at least one other person on this pretty blue ball thinks similar to me, Robert. In any case, I kept thinking how to apply these same ideological arguments to statism. My thought, referring to the OP, was "now, do you apply this 'fooling yourself' argument to statist ideology?" Of course they don't. Most of them are funded by various states. Few bite the hand that feeds them. In part 2, Hitch even specifically states that people have "confirmation bias" in how they might hate statism, but still cough up the rental fees. He even says that this is a way in which confirmation bias is useful!?
@RobertJohnson_Zeppo
@RobertJohnson_Zeppo 9 жыл бұрын
Kon Berner​ Which is more destructive?
@konberner170
@konberner170 9 жыл бұрын
Robert Johnson In my eyes, all ideologies are equally destructive (ala Richard's point that as soon as things are taken on faith, the game is already lost), but... I take your point... the primary injustices still emanate from the priests of the political variety. That said, one step at a time :) These gentlemen at least introduced reason into a low hanging fruit, and I am extremely grateful to them.
@ubergenie6041
@ubergenie6041 7 жыл бұрын
Richard has a 30-year history of not letting the facts stand in the way of his world view. He is great at changing the subject with a red-herring or two. He also has many incoherent logical dodges "Who created God? Missing the point that has been made by philosophers for 2600 years that there must be an uncaused cause to start off this whole Universe. But he feigns ignorance so well, you'd think the old boy had never had a philosophy class in his life. That's genius!
@majidjamili2157
@majidjamili2157 8 ай бұрын
that's the kinda hang-out I wanna be involved with
@Gizmodus
@Gizmodus 8 ай бұрын
Found back to this video after rewatching some Hitchens videos. Oh how I miss him.
@alwaysthinkforyourself7028
@alwaysthinkforyourself7028 10 жыл бұрын
I wasn't offended when we found out that all religion is rubbish. I was relieved to know the truth.
@alwaysthinkforyourself7028
@alwaysthinkforyourself7028 9 жыл бұрын
***** Why yes, of course ;) Because mythical stories that originated out of Egypt are always true teehee!
@alwaysthinkforyourself7028
@alwaysthinkforyourself7028 9 жыл бұрын
***** Mm hmm ;)
@johnnyscarlotti4566
@johnnyscarlotti4566 9 жыл бұрын
***** - Hell is the most disgusting belief a man can behold. Congrats.
@johnnyscarlotti4566
@johnnyscarlotti4566 9 жыл бұрын
I'd engage in a proper dialogue with you but I'm convinced you're trolling. Throughout life you'll meet a lot of really great people that are not religious. I hope you learn to be tolerant.
@johnnyscarlotti4566
@johnnyscarlotti4566 9 жыл бұрын
You come into this forum and say that hell is true? That is trolling. HOW DO YOU KNOW? YOU DO NOT. SO STOP SPEAKING LIKE YOU DO. /end of story. Learn to logic.
@Gamster420
@Gamster420 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this again after some years is enriching.
@loneranger7535
@loneranger7535 10 ай бұрын
Just found this absolutely wonderful gem. Thank you for posting this. And Sam Harris is my hero in terms of putting ones thoughts so eloquently and elegantly. It's refreshing to see her was as sharp in his younger days as he is now.
@FlareSomewhere
@FlareSomewhere 9 күн бұрын
RIP Daniel Dennett
@vladimirsukmeovf1211
@vladimirsukmeovf1211 6 жыл бұрын
my god... so much brain power in one single room... in 4 heads, more brains than in a whole megachurch
@clarkzy
@clarkzy 4 жыл бұрын
Vladimir Sukmeovf amen 🙏🏼
@Sralaineo-
@Sralaineo- 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah right......, I don't think so man....... These four are the killers of True Happiness and the destructions of Oneself..... Where is intelligent in that ????
@r3fus32d13
@r3fus32d13 4 жыл бұрын
More than the american senate for sure.
@Phoenix-King-ozai
@Phoenix-King-ozai 4 жыл бұрын
More brain power than all the religions and woo put together
@theedge747
@theedge747 4 жыл бұрын
@@Sralaineo- I love how no one graces you with a response. Mostly because you don't actually bring up a point. You adhere to an abstract concept that is entirely subjective. So no, if you insist on criticizing such brilliant mjnds you're going to need more than that.
@Benjaminsp2004
@Benjaminsp2004 6 жыл бұрын
I love these men so much, along with Shermer, Krauss, P&T and others, I enjoy and value life more now as a direct result of their wisdom
@majajackson777
@majajackson777 2 жыл бұрын
So much brain power, knowledge and wonderful english (I'm not a native speaker and just enjoy their sophisticated way of speaking). I could watch this over and over again. Thanks so much for the upload!
@TheSonOfSerpentine616
@TheSonOfSerpentine616 2 жыл бұрын
People don't understand how important videos like these are, it's like watching Plato, Aristotle etc, having discussions.
@moriorioriarty
@moriorioriarty 3 жыл бұрын
What I personally love about this is when one happens to be speaking, you can see the others thinking. Their body language subtly portrays their own process of thought, their own shades of reason. And I must say, Hitchens looks serious :)
@sniffableandirresistble
@sniffableandirresistble 3 жыл бұрын
49:15 watching Hitchens snicker at Sam Harris saying that "wheel barrow as emergent technology" line is priceless. ... lol 🤣
@andrecampbell691
@andrecampbell691 2 жыл бұрын
Four highly intelligent individuals having a polite discussion and actually listening to each other, thank you for this video, enjoyed it very much.
@agnidas5816
@agnidas5816 2 жыл бұрын
Highly intelligent means shit all then. They all drink a known neurotoxins. Literally killing their intelligence. How smart can you be if you are willingly killing your intelligence like that? Not very smart I'd say ...
@firstaddz8100
@firstaddz8100 2 жыл бұрын
I liked Hitchens and I enjoy listening to Dawkins but their intelligence is overrated. Of course they are all intelligent but then again so are countless millions of others.
@andygirone7442
@andygirone7442 2 жыл бұрын
@@agnidas5816 says the twat on KZbin. With no vices?
@andygirone7442
@andygirone7442 2 жыл бұрын
@@firstaddz8100 where can I find your accolades from your peers? Where do people claim how intelligent you are? Where can I find the accolades of the millions you speak of? You make claims with no evidence and no way of proving such a claim. Must be religious? Some people put themselves out there, and some people (you) hide behind and anonymity online, so no one will ever know you or your thoughts. Pathetic.
@Jess-TheMess
@Jess-TheMess 3 ай бұрын
I come back to this about once a month. Just a wonderful conversation. 3 of my heros at one table. Hitchens, Harris, and Dawkins helped me leave religion. Dennet is obviously amazing as well. I love this video💜
@JoaoPimentelFerreira
@JoaoPimentelFerreira 4 жыл бұрын
The first picture I get: Hitchens smokes a cigar and right after takes a sip of alcohol. He should have taken his health more seriously, I really miss him.
@yington
@yington 4 жыл бұрын
João Pimentel Ferreira He continued doing it partly because of vanity I think. He liked the image it created. Look at how he sits with his legs half-crossed the whole time. Can’t be comfy to continually maintain it, but it makes him look a bit more...intellectual?
@thedevil3890
@thedevil3890 4 жыл бұрын
It's not that he didn't take his health seriously. It's that he took the pleasures of things in life more seriously. He spoke many times why He continued to smoke and drink even after his health took a bad turn.
@thedevil3890
@thedevil3890 4 жыл бұрын
@@yington nothing to do with vanity. Everything to do with his mentality of, "I only live once, so I'm going to enjoy all of life's vices til they I'll me".
@erikariehs8287
@erikariehs8287 4 жыл бұрын
@@thedevil3890 This is promoting self damaging behaviour. Willingly hurting once body and spirit for the sake of pleasure is a truly degenerate behaviour and large part of why our modern society is how it is. He was an alcoholic and he couldn't quit it and the rest are excuses.
@glenc5185
@glenc5185 4 жыл бұрын
If he had put down the cigarettes and booze and women, his thinking, writing, and speaking would not have been infused with the rebellious and passionate streak that fuelled it.
@Pedro-tm6ue
@Pedro-tm6ue 4 жыл бұрын
I've had this in my feed for two weeks now an have finally decided to give it a watch. Good call!
@mattbaker7305
@mattbaker7305 7 ай бұрын
Dawkins has the (and I say this respectfully) the most mild and non threatening voice. It's amazing to hear him speak so softly vs. what his pen screams.
@felina7849
@felina7849 2 жыл бұрын
I'd have paid so much money to witness this on a stage setting. Its actually quite exhilarating taking this in.
@oldsoul2829
@oldsoul2829 6 жыл бұрын
see, this is how a decent conversation looks like.
@2fast2block
@2fast2block 4 жыл бұрын
A decent conversation amongst dumbasses.
@GuitarDog_atx
@GuitarDog_atx 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fast2block ...and trolling is intelligent?
@2fast2block
@2fast2block 4 жыл бұрын
@@GuitarDog_atx oh, I didn't realize this was a public video. Evidently, it's a private video only to be watched and commented on by dumbasses who believe these dumbasses. If you're not, then you're called a troll. They are a dumbass just as you are a dumbass who believes your god of nothing did miracles naturally with nothing as proof. Shove this up your dumb ass and see if it reaches your head way up there: The atheist/agnostic god. I HATE your god, the god of nothing. Your god claims to have given us the universe, fine-tuning of the universe for life, life from non-life, information for life before and after it began, the laws of nature, etc, etc, when we know that your god of nothing can do nothing. Your god of nothing has nothing to offer and its followers only offer nothing of evidence for their god of nothing. That makes them nothing of importance but the followers of the god of nothing are so delusional that they think they do have something to offer to defend their god of nothing. www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/originoflife.html The true God beats the crap out of the atheist/agnostic god of nothing. It's the atheistic/agnostic types that supply the greatest comedy. They think the universe came about by natural means. There's NO science for it and ALL the science we know proves that creation had to be supernatural and done by a supernatural creator, but...., not to atheists/agnostics. Isn't that funny?! You can't do it because you devoted your life to the god of nothing and love being a dumbass. ----Real science says nothing does nothing. Real science says if there was something there already it must fit with the evidence of what we know. We know the 1LT says there's a conservation of energy. It can change forms and neither can be created or destroyed. Creation cannot happen by natural means. The 2LT has various aspects, one being the universe is winding down, entropy. Usable energy is becoming less usable, so at one point usable energy was at its max. This all points to a supernatural creation, by a supernatural creator at a certain point in which matter, space and time were created. When I read how it can happen otherwise, ALL the fools resort to science-fiction. Once a supernatural creation is accepted, then the next step is finding proof of what supernatural power did it.----- Then the extreme order we have in our universe that defies all physics, but....., not to atheists/agnostics. It's just happened by mere chances even though we prove it can't happen by chance. Funny! www.inplainsite.org/html/anthropic_principles.html kgov.com/fine-tuning-of-the-universe And life? Well, it just came from non-life. It's so absurd it's even hard to type that, but....., atheists/agnostics claim to believe it happened somehow by natural means. Again, funny! Many have brought up such issues how funny it is, including James Tour. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sIaafaqtYth1hsk kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGXWgWR7Zq-Xlbs kzbin.info/www/bejne/j57NnaWta6yggbc kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmGQmZqJn9Oio6M kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3K7nKWZZ7SGqZY Ribosomes had to be there for life but ribosomes are far too sophisticated. creation.com/media-center/youtube/ribosome-the-most-sophistcated-machine-ever-made?Ribosome%3A+the+%22most+sophistcated+machine+ever+made%22&.creation.com&Creation.com+Daily+-+US+-+Sun+09+Feb+2020+-+1009 Then, what this life did after it started by mere chance can't happen by science, but....., atheists/agnostics believe it did. Funny! Life takes information to form and proceed on. But to atheists/agnostics, chaos through time gave us information. Although it's even hard to write such a ridiculous statement, they believe it. All one can do is laugh at such stupidity. kzbin.info/www/bejne/l3KQd5akgdh5Z8k kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZScgZSQr9ike8k creation.com/laws-of-information-1 creation.com/laws-of-information-2 Only fools don't believe God was involved. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gJqwoq2ElL6Gjrc I've kept this very basic and brief. I can provide much deeper, yet there's no need to since each point proves there is no explanation for such things to have happened naturally. This IS evidence against such things happening naturally. Lame excuses of why it can still have happened naturally with no science to support it are just that, lame excuses. There's a ton more. If you want a laugh, see what atheists/agnostics believe.
@pranavlimaye
@pranavlimaye 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fast2block Cool. Life and the Universe came from God if you say so. Now DO tell me, *Where did God come from?* From nothing? *Then why can't the universe come from nothing?* Ever used your brain like that? Dipshit
@pranavlimaye
@pranavlimaye 4 жыл бұрын
@@2fast2block Sorry I would like to make a correction. You aren't a dipshit. You're a thick-skinned dipshit. I hope you don't ever have kids. Not gonna waste more of my time, I'm out.
@user-zy2xh5ko1v
@user-zy2xh5ko1v 3 жыл бұрын
now THAT is a room i want to be in!
@CaslavMitic
@CaslavMitic 3 жыл бұрын
me too bro. And we miss Hitch so much
@dusanninic9572
@dusanninic9572 3 жыл бұрын
@@CaslavMitic Pozdrav Cale! 👋😉
@CaslavMitic
@CaslavMitic 3 жыл бұрын
@@dusanninic9572 Poooz Dušaneee ;)
@Astro-kb7zn
@Astro-kb7zn 2 жыл бұрын
اذا متت عحالك هذه انت وهم راح تسيروا تتبرأوا و تلعنوا بعض يوم القيامة
@482jpsquared
@482jpsquared 2 жыл бұрын
The respect and admiration that these four individuals show for one another is as much endearing as it is exemplary.
@jestermoon
@jestermoon Жыл бұрын
18 years and so much of what they all say is relevant in 2022. Missing Hitchens x
@insight827
@insight827 Жыл бұрын
It’s not 18 years later
@johmyh14
@johmyh14 5 ай бұрын
This was recorded in 2007 IIRC.
@jestermoon
@jestermoon 5 ай бұрын
​@insight827 sorry I have PTSD after 28yrs of The Lawnmower of Death rolling along 28:43 I can't stop watching this in short blasts 29:33 Sam, great stuff 👏 29:57 😂 Kretin? 30:18 🎉great story 👌 30:36 🎉😂🎉😂 30:42 Stay Silly Stay Safe and Stay Free 🌐 No god's required
@Superknullisch
@Superknullisch 4 жыл бұрын
25:22 - 25:41 Aah! What a lovely moment.. That very spontaneous unique English/Victorian respectful old chaps disagreement with a cheerful outburst of jolly laughter!
@dudefromtuniaia1960
@dudefromtuniaia1960 10 жыл бұрын
logic and reason bless this holy meeting, in the name of intellect, science, and the free spirit :)
@SweRaider1993
@SweRaider1993 9 жыл бұрын
***** Amen! Hail Satan!
@zetetick395
@zetetick395 5 жыл бұрын
Amen! Hail Santa!
@NomadUrpagi
@NomadUrpagi 4 жыл бұрын
@@zetetick395 Hi! I have dailysex. I mean, dyslexia!
@stuartherrmann228
@stuartherrmann228 4 жыл бұрын
Nature is far from man’s conception of logic.
@daviddawson1718
@daviddawson1718 4 жыл бұрын
@@stuartherrmann228 what man? Speak for yourself, because you don't speak for me.
@TheLegendOfRandy
@TheLegendOfRandy Ай бұрын
It breaks my heart watching Hitchens take a puff of smoke and a sip of alcohol. He had so much more to give! Why do so many legends die young.
@ross1158
@ross1158 4 жыл бұрын
I can watch this every few months and actually feel satisfied and physically feel joy somehow by listening to them, especially with Hitch gone now. I am so sad, that I've only discovered him a few years ago when it was somehow too late. The whole thing is just amazing and the great part is that I still enjoy Sam's arguments almost on a daily basis with his podcast etc.
@IsraeliPastafarian
@IsraeliPastafarian 11 жыл бұрын
I also came here to see Hitch, and he is my favorite intellectual of all times, but please.. show some respect to Sam, Dawkins and Daniel... they are very brave, honest and educated as well. I truly believe that when Sam Harris grows up he will remind us alot of what the Hitch was before he died.
@Sjguitarpnw
@Sjguitarpnw 11 ай бұрын
What a treat to have the greats together. I’m upset I’ve woken up and out of religions after hitchens has passed but grateful for all the incredible content on here!
@philsymes
@philsymes 11 ай бұрын
Well done Seth. Escaping the lying shackles of religion is a great achievement. 👍
@upturnedblousecollar5811
@upturnedblousecollar5811 10 ай бұрын
There's something comforting about watching Hitch raise a tumbler and a cigarette to his mouth between his comments.
@Sjguitarpnw
@Sjguitarpnw 9 ай бұрын
@@upturnedblousecollar5811 absolutely! His calm demeanor and cadence is just good for the soul.
@Kevin-ul8ux
@Kevin-ul8ux 3 жыл бұрын
I consider the analogy of a priest being like a shepherd and his congregation, his sheep, to be pretty accurate. The element of it which I wish wasn't ignored is that the shepherd doesn't do so for his love of the lives of the sheep, but rather so he can take their wool and eat their flesh. In the end, the key difference between shepherd and wolf is that the wolf never tries to convince the sheep they won't be eaten.
@ctriamimgons
@ctriamimgons 11 жыл бұрын
Hitchens on the fly is so great - 33:45 "Public opinion is often wrong. Mob opinion is almost always wrong. Religious opinion is wrong BY DEFINITION."
@21divel
@21divel 3 жыл бұрын
Right, as he self destroys and sucks on a cigarette. But his opinion on life and value of human life matters....that's a joke
@Robertoxy
@Robertoxy 3 жыл бұрын
@@21divel So the only critic you have is his personality and not the facts or his ideas he is saying? tells more about you than him. :)
@21divel
@21divel 3 жыл бұрын
@@Robertoxy You guys call it natural selection. Lol nothing to do with personality. And he had fits when talking about circumcision. Thats the joke and all idiots cheered him on. Now they're sad because he smoked himself to death.
@NothingHumanisAlientoMe
@NothingHumanisAlientoMe 3 жыл бұрын
Religious opinion is merely an opinon based on a belief system. An examined, nunaced opinion based on factual analysis could easily coincide with religious opinion. In the grand scheme, how do we know what is wrong? We cannot see the eyes that veiw us in the far future.
@korcidiamond3623
@korcidiamond3623 3 жыл бұрын
@@NothingHumanisAlientoMe Religious opinion is merely an argument of ingorance.
@fairieshavetailscreations
@fairieshavetailscreations 12 күн бұрын
Still worth watching. Thank you all.
@axe-z8316
@axe-z8316 9 күн бұрын
Mr. Dennett will be missed, what a legend.
@ronelliott87
@ronelliott87 3 жыл бұрын
One of the finer examples of our contemporary critical thinkers in the public space. Their discourse is uniquely refreshing.The loss of Chris is deeply felt by those of us who couldn’t wait to hear or read whatever subject was occupying his mind next.
@anthonycook8703
@anthonycook8703 9 ай бұрын
Don't let him hear you call him Chris though 😊
@ronaldelliott4373
@ronaldelliott4373 9 ай бұрын
@@anthonycook8703 indeed.
@Superknullisch
@Superknullisch 4 жыл бұрын
"If you will claim it for one, you must accept it for the more" - Classic Hitch wisdom!
@danij5055
@danij5055 3 жыл бұрын
I thought he said "for them all." Regardless, great quote. Hitch truly had an incredible way with words.
@RichardsGaySon
@RichardsGaySon 8 ай бұрын
I love hearing Hitchens speak. I really miss this man😢
@jaqenhghar6996
@jaqenhghar6996 Жыл бұрын
Man the amount of enlightened brain power within that room that day 🤯!! Miss ya Hitch!!
@jonathanheidenreich8565
@jonathanheidenreich8565 3 жыл бұрын
Hitchens had such a tremendous amount of inherent style. Not just in his discourse, but in his entire persona and the way in which he carried himself with confidence and respect when speaking with fellow intellectuals (who weren't representatives of religion). It's never come across as arrogance to me (note how softly and measured he addresses his colleagues when he doesn't have to combat an ideology) but a genuine knowledge of himself.
@raubhautz6281
@raubhautz6281 7 жыл бұрын
I will be in Glendale in November to see Sam and Richard, truly will be a highlight in my life. I cannot wait. I wish I was able to see HItchens and Dennett.
@laplacesdemon8140
@laplacesdemon8140 Жыл бұрын
very happy that i lived in era of such geniuses
@NWard1210
@NWard1210 2 жыл бұрын
Time for another visit with some of my favourite people - so refreshing to listen to intellectual discussions on this platform.
@scottsarver9408
@scottsarver9408 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the upload One of the best Still watch it at least once a year
@kevinstaples7393
@kevinstaples7393 4 жыл бұрын
Man. I wish I would've been following these dudes sooner. Better late then never.
@alainmaitre2069
@alainmaitre2069 3 жыл бұрын
KZbin UG Krishnamurti - false perception . KZbin Best of UG
@user-vq2rc3td7d
@user-vq2rc3td7d 3 жыл бұрын
@@alainmaitre2069 Krishnamurti was way way ahead of his time.
@RealKennethChoi
@RealKennethChoi 4 ай бұрын
I just discovered Hitchens, or should I say -he discovered me. It's a bit eerie, because he reminds me of myself, the demeanor, the smoking and drinking, the endless internal discourse. Im glad now.
@catkeys6911
@catkeys6911 Жыл бұрын
:Listening to a discussion between these four is so therapeutic. Such rational thinking- it's just so incredibly refreshing, as well as reassuring - and I am so truly grateful for that.
@tinaa9231
@tinaa9231 Жыл бұрын
Carl - this discussion gives far more to the human race than millennia of religious bollocks ever has. Phil.
@catkeys6911
@catkeys6911 Жыл бұрын
@@tinaa9231 If only enough of the human race was receptive to this sort of discourse. 🙍‍♂
@ANNIHILATOR135
@ANNIHILATOR135 11 ай бұрын
one of the 4 rationalists killed himself through excess smoking and addiction ,pretty rational
@alexfraserjones958
@alexfraserjones958 3 жыл бұрын
Relatively new fan here guys , thanks to the viewers , community , and these great men for showing me the truth ! ❤️ gained a lot of knowledge from these guys , thanks again 😊
@mgsee
@mgsee 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff! and I find it remarkable that even in this distinguished company Hitchens' erudition and humour is exceptionally illuminating and amusing.
@The6Master6Mind6
@The6Master6Mind6 3 жыл бұрын
We are a minority in this comment section. Look at all the triggered religious proles, an infestation.
@realKelham
@realKelham 2 жыл бұрын
We need more of this.
@spicyhummus6266
@spicyhummus6266 11 ай бұрын
I'm so happy to have found this, I have so so much to learn and its great to have teachers like these four. I have been over much of Mr Hitchens works, same with Mr Dawkins, also I have known a great lot about Mr Harris but I haven't delved into his work until lately. But what a charm it is, to figure there is another man that was at close standings with the 3 I mentioned moments before, Daniel Dennett seems to be a whole new chapter in the book of theology, that I cannot wait to find out more information about! This is quite exciting.
@zielous
@zielous 3 жыл бұрын
It’s 2021, 10 years since hitch passed and boy would it be good to hear what he had to say right now...
@ptanyuh
@ptanyuh 4 жыл бұрын
Ayaan Hirsi Ali was supposed to be there that day.... I really wish she would have made it! Thanks for the upload :)
@demonshaz
@demonshaz 4 жыл бұрын
I like Ayan hirsi too but she might need a few more years to get to the level of these gods
@shahsaud2625
@shahsaud2625 3 жыл бұрын
@@demonshaz ayaan hirsi Ali is a fraud
@shahsaud2625
@shahsaud2625 3 жыл бұрын
@Nihal your girl is a fraud my friend
@sharismad
@sharismad 3 жыл бұрын
@@shahsaud2625 if you’re making a claim, support it with arguments. This isn’t that kind of comment section.
@shahsaud2625
@shahsaud2625 3 жыл бұрын
@@sharismad kzbin.info/www/bejne/jnTZfZp5m555ndk Here's a video ..watch it
@danielj2653
@danielj2653 8 ай бұрын
How comfortable does Sam's chair look.
@ChaoThing
@ChaoThing 6 ай бұрын
I can revisit this recording every year and learn more from it each time.
@deftoolradio
@deftoolradio 5 жыл бұрын
And STILL! one of my favorite gatherings of all time.
@wendyreuse7190
@wendyreuse7190 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way they sit back and listen and think before responding.
@maciejpodgorski9368
@maciejpodgorski9368 10 ай бұрын
We need more minds like Hitchens
@thunderwarrior1759
@thunderwarrior1759 2 жыл бұрын
The joy of hearing these guys speak passionate about something that’s so obviously harmed humanity throughout history….plus seeing Hitch enjoying a whiskey and a cigarette,his vices,while speaking so beautifully about a subject close to my heart is gorgeous
@carloscervantes836
@carloscervantes836 7 жыл бұрын
Really love this casual and natural round table format.
@homebass3426
@homebass3426 10 жыл бұрын
I have to thank Penn Jillette for opening my mind and then thank Dawkins and Hitchens for opening my eyes. I was raised Catholic but could never call myself devout but I still was a believer, now I am not. I used to post pretty ignorant things all over the internet and I look back in shame now.
@Sam-wt9se
@Sam-wt9se 4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Miles lmao nice
@daviddeida
@daviddeida 3 жыл бұрын
Shame is subjective..as are all morals..get over it.
@andyng5321
@andyng5321 3 жыл бұрын
Don't feel bad, you were lie to from young, thus it's not your fault
@kabirchattopadhyay533
@kabirchattopadhyay533 3 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the light, my friend. Do not feel ashamed for growing up. :)
@InnerLuminosity
@InnerLuminosity 2 жыл бұрын
It's ok👍.. thank you for Awakening
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