The Four Horsemen - Top Lane's Most Dominant Champions | League of Legends

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@Darkhonores
@Darkhonores 3 ай бұрын
Going by my type of champions I´d rather play vs the Horsemen anyday than the horsewomen of top. Simply bcuz kit simplicity and they are way easier to play against than the horsewoman who has so much mobility, flashy and unexpected things they can do.
@koven-thecovenantofmerakya5060
@koven-thecovenantofmerakya5060 3 ай бұрын
I partially agree, i despise both horseriders, the 4 horsemen are practically unkillable once they're fed, insane sustain and stable dps are pain in the ass, but if they're behind they're a glorified super minions, good thing if its the enemy team, but hellish experience if it's your team(at least they can still be meatshields). The horsewomen tho, they are unpredictable, huge burst to the point they could heavily cripple you in one combo, and can get out of fights quickly, most of them are better off acting as split pushers than joining teamfights if they're behind But hey, they're better than a top lane vayne at least
@Andre-Banana
@Andre-Banana 3 ай бұрын
I'm on the opposite side of this, I prefer playing against the horsewoman, because if you can eliminate then on the early game they will just a minion running around. While horseman there is always something in their kits that can win the game, Jax/Aatrox/renek can take enemy time and even stop the carry for sometime, darius always have that 1000 true damage pression. A weak irelia/riven/camille/fiora will do what, they can't burst and can't tank, they will be a little annoyance before been killed. They need to be at least even to be threat, but when they are ahead...
@tbone9474
@tbone9474 3 ай бұрын
Agreed. Gimme a 1 trick darius over a 1 trick irelia
@ramenemu_4376
@ramenemu_4376 3 ай бұрын
@@koven-thecovenantofmerakya5060 Darius, Jax, and Aatrox are literally always a problem. I have no clue what you're talking about.
@koven-thecovenantofmerakya5060
@koven-thecovenantofmerakya5060 3 ай бұрын
@@ramenemu_4376 just saying i despise both teams of horse riders of the apocalypse, they both have strength and weaknesses and both are pain to deal with, op said they prefer fighting the horsemen than the horsewoman , i partially agree with that statement bcs i despise both. As much as cancerous they are, i rather fight against them rather than against ranged top laners(except kayle, she's food if you pressure her in the early game) especially vayne
@DSMister
@DSMister 3 ай бұрын
There's the 4 horsemen that you list (Darius, Renekton, Aatrox, Jax) There's the 4 horsewomen (Camille, Irelia, Riven, Fiora). Then there's Illaoi, who somehow manages to be both at the same time.
@shaan2639
@shaan2639 3 ай бұрын
it’s actually funny that illaoi has a hugely different win con with each one of the horsemen and horsewomen
@ambershangout7226
@ambershangout7226 3 ай бұрын
A horseman video without Hecarim? blasphemy!
@Hallorenzo
@Hallorenzo 3 ай бұрын
He even used to be a toplaner!
@lukebell7463
@lukebell7463 3 ай бұрын
Hes not a horseman anymore hes a horse man
@Crause88fin
@Crause88fin 3 ай бұрын
Now I want a Vars video discussing the hooved trio of Hecarim, Rell and Lillia in the same video. Just, like, for reasons.
@Steve_Goodman
@Steve_Goodman 3 ай бұрын
What?​@@Hallorenzo
@farisrafimeitaputra9178
@farisrafimeitaputra9178 3 ай бұрын
IKR! the audacity & atrocity are beyond me
@ironboy3245
@ironboy3245 3 ай бұрын
should have been called the four pillarmen of top AYAYAYAA ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ
@skyler1469
@skyler1469 3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@misteriousgamers9290
@misteriousgamers9290 3 ай бұрын
To be honest if it was called that and it didn't had trundle on the list i would have been GREATLY disappointed
@muhammadsyafiq7431
@muhammadsyafiq7431 3 ай бұрын
Why do i automatically hear the song.. AYAYAYAYAAA~~~
@mateuszkucharski1350
@mateuszkucharski1350 3 ай бұрын
Hard to imagine toplane without this champions.
@MaidenlessScrub
@MaidenlessScrub 3 ай бұрын
You can argue that Aatrox is something of a vampire himself
@pubfriendthegreat1259
@pubfriendthegreat1259 3 ай бұрын
Renekton isn't a horseman. he's a crocman.
@ThundererR64T
@ThundererR64T 3 ай бұрын
horsecroc
@ThundererR64T
@ThundererR64T 3 ай бұрын
wait that sounds a bit familiar...
@tiziankempe4890
@tiziankempe4890 3 ай бұрын
​@@ThundererR64T sounds like something I unfortunately massively lack
@TherealNiqqa
@TherealNiqqa 3 ай бұрын
@@ThundererR64T yeah you're going to jail
@SoulGaleo1992
@SoulGaleo1992 3 ай бұрын
No, he's a Florida man.
@lunathic
@lunathic 3 ай бұрын
0:30 As someone with hundreds of games in Iron to Silver I can say with full confidence that absolutely noone plays Renekton down there, my guess is that the reason for this is that he mainly punishes high mechanics champions like Riven which is also rare down there, but what do i know.
@dreamergamer9291
@dreamergamer9291 3 ай бұрын
renekton requires more skill than jax or darius because of fury management and trade patterns
@luizotavio44
@luizotavio44 3 ай бұрын
​@@dreamergamer9291also that he is always weak as fuck due to his prominence in pro play
@francooronacaratti9085
@francooronacaratti9085 3 ай бұрын
idk, im a diamond player, nothing too special, but everytime i play in a smurf to duo with friends who are new to league i just play/recomend them to play renek and its free win. nobody knows how to stand your early game nor punish your lategame weaknesses
@richardusspqr6955
@richardusspqr6955 3 ай бұрын
I would say renek is a champ that teaches fundamentals that gets you to gold as long as you play with at least 7 brain cells this coming from someone that got plat for the first time as renek a few years ago and is still one of my main champs when in top lane (I traded to jg though in s10 and now main lightning bear).
@DIAX9
@DIAX9 3 ай бұрын
idk i think he should be pretty fine to pull off in low elos i quite litterally started to play him while smurfing with my friends and for the first 10 games i played exactly the same and i never had an issue
@MadIIMike
@MadIIMike 3 ай бұрын
Those champs: exist. My 1-7 ADC: oh, a bunch of creeps near their inner toplane turret, I might finally get my first item, what could possibly go wrong?
@lovableairheadmile6809
@lovableairheadmile6809 3 ай бұрын
Proceeds to get jumped by Jax followed with a stun and boom 1-8
@RecklessZeta
@RecklessZeta 3 ай бұрын
I really think that the execution of Renekton is just so good. He is a drain tank, skirmisher who gets hardly punished for not taking dominance in lane, favoring those who understand the fundamentals of lane (lvl timers, wave management and prio), do to having less of a scale compared to other top champions. Plus, he is a really good response against the wind brothers... So its a green flag for me!
@Zobuyta
@Zobuyta 3 ай бұрын
I agree. Renekton is so nicely designed and would have been my number1 pick for toplane but I sadly suck
@dylan3746
@dylan3746 3 ай бұрын
Sadly his best build is burst 1 shot due to his wack scaling that you need to play him perfect otherwise you fall off hard
@uniguy4647
@uniguy4647 3 ай бұрын
Whaaat are you even talking about? Renecton and similar to him champs should be deleted or reworked.​@@Zobuyta
@JuristPugilist
@JuristPugilist 3 ай бұрын
Renekton is one of those champions that is made or broken by itemization. Every time he is strong it’s because he abuses a specific overturned item. It has at different times been botrk, cleaver, hydra, and now sundered and shojin.
@bbnumber2643
@bbnumber2643 3 ай бұрын
@@JuristPugilist That's true for most non-supports in the game tbf. Item balance can determine if whole swathes of champs are playable or not
@dcyoung8887
@dcyoung8887 3 ай бұрын
Love how you used Ridley’s theme from Smash Bros Ultimate for the video. Shows the meaning of doom and dread, yes the last part was intended.
@soulstalker4624
@soulstalker4624 3 ай бұрын
Main gripe with Renekton is how much of a short end of the stick he gets thanks to items being broken. Rios balancing team has an specific MO when it comes to champion and item balance. 1. Release broken item with no play-testing (PBE is a lie) 2. Item has an specific interaction with a champ (Renekton) that makes said champ incredibly broken 3. Pros abuse the hell of that champ because of the item. 4. Riot takes notice and decides to release nerfs throughout time to put the champ in a more stable state. 5. The champ is completely useless without the item, so people will still play it with it. 6. Riot finally realizes the item is the one thats broken because other champs statted to buld it. 7. Nerf the item to a stable state. 8. The champ that used to abuse the item is forgotten by Riot and never buffed. 9. Another broken item releases that buffs the champ 10. Rinse and repeat.
@TheCosmicAstro-
@TheCosmicAstro- 3 ай бұрын
Happens to a lot of champs. Riot is just stupid
@einjharrelraca
@einjharrelraca 3 ай бұрын
and here you see why mages are PISSED right now.
@tristan6773
@tristan6773 3 ай бұрын
@@einjharrelracamages were strong for like the first 2 weeks of each split this year
@soulstalker4624
@soulstalker4624 3 ай бұрын
@@einjharrelraca Mages getting shafted out of midlane into support is sad. Mostly since I hate seeing mages as supports and facing off against Heimer or Zyra as a Rell is a nightmare. But can't blame them, Rito thought it would be funny for mages to get nerfed because of the crazy overtuned items they made.
@einjharrelraca
@einjharrelraca 3 ай бұрын
@@soulstalker4624 they do it every pre season. they always either give mages a turbo busted item, just so they can hit the entire class with the riot special, OR they put out some batshit insane new lethality item that lets assassins invalidate mages even harder than they already do.
@toseno8978
@toseno8978 3 ай бұрын
REAL for Four horse(?)man(?) -Hecarim -Kled -Rell -Sejuani
@Ragnarons
@Ragnarons 3 ай бұрын
The mountfellas
@hellup
@hellup 3 ай бұрын
Nunu?
@roguewasbanned4746
@roguewasbanned4746 3 ай бұрын
Learning Kled atm because I feel he’s so underplayed rn that you can catch people off guard or knowledge check. Like the Sejuani top otp that I met
@Lord_Pyyr
@Lord_Pyyr 3 ай бұрын
I’m about to go on break and I go “I don’t think I’ve seen this Vars video yet” and then I see ‘1 hour ago’. That’s Vars for ya; posting exactly when you need him to 🙏🙏🙏
@thereaper7926
@thereaper7926 3 ай бұрын
You know they are staple picks,when you main 2 of them, occasionally use one as a counterpick and perma ban the other
@DoloresBTW
@DoloresBTW 2 ай бұрын
You ban jax right? RIGHT?
@thereaper7926
@thereaper7926 2 ай бұрын
@@DoloresBTW 😈
@DoloresBTW
@DoloresBTW 2 ай бұрын
@@thereaper7926 am I correct pls answear ill never be in peace if i dont know
@thereaper7926
@thereaper7926 2 ай бұрын
@@DoloresBTW yes I ban jax lol,fuck that champ
@JustinSeizure
@JustinSeizure 3 ай бұрын
I respect these guys so much more than the four smurfwomen.
@halycon404
@halycon404 3 ай бұрын
Not Aatrox. His winrate isn't a reflection of how busted he really is. His winrate is low because 50% of the time he picks first and gets hard counterpicked. Add in the games where he just get messed over by luck of the draw on teammates and he's sub 50%. Yet still a sky high pickrate at all ranks because anything that isn't a direct counter he just rolls over. He isn't balanced by his kit. He's balanced by how hard he is counterpicked. Aatrox is played so often that his counter picks have an inflated pick and win rate that makes them look better than they actually are.
@tristan6773
@tristan6773 3 ай бұрын
@@halycon404who are the aatrox counter picks?
@halycon404
@halycon404 3 ай бұрын
@@tristan6773 Kennan absolutely stomps him. Almost all games Kennan plays in at Master+ are against Aatrox. He sits at a absurdly high win rate and game played because of it. Aatrox is picked about 10% of the time. Around a third of all Aatrox games are against Kennan at high ELO. That's Kennan's entire 3% pick rate. It would be higher but Kennan's ban rate is absurd for how often he is played, almost bans from an Aatrox's are for Kennan.
@renssmits2430
@renssmits2430 3 ай бұрын
​@@tristan6773 as an aatrox otp, o feel like i have a good understanding of which champions beat aatrox: The usual fiora and irelia, but a good aatrox player will beat you if you first time fiora or irelia. Even though aatrox is strong against ranged champs, vayne, kennen, kayle and quinn are very hard lanes. Further more: aatrox doesnt like to be all-inned. Champs with a dash to get on top of the world ender, tryndamere, renekton, darius+ghost etc. Since aatrox Q doesnt deal %-health damage, malphite and ornn are almost unwinnable lanes. DO NOT pick sion, cho or mundo: they get eaten alive by aatrox. To round this stupidly long and pointless comment off: aatrox doesnt like dashes or movement speed. If you are really desperate: zed, leblanc, lillia etc. Will destroy aatrox late game, no matter how fet he is
@JustinSeizure
@JustinSeizure 3 ай бұрын
@@halycon404 so Kennen* is one counter, what are the others? I dunno, I don’t see him that often and he def doesn’t always win. Super clunky and slow champ with many openings for punishment. Irelia and Fiora however can lose lane hard, but it doesn’t matter at all cause their designs just let them be relevant anyway.
@shodore
@shodore 3 ай бұрын
I can hear Druttut screeching from here.
@torii5307
@torii5307 3 ай бұрын
pretty sure he only actually hates playing against renekton and jax (both are constantly in his perma ban pool), the other two he has counters he can play
@sheepenjoyer3007
@sheepenjoyer3007 3 ай бұрын
@@torii5307yeah, drututt has a habit of complaining about everything he doesn’t play
@21n0v3mber
@21n0v3mber 3 ай бұрын
​@@sheepenjoyer3007 nah you're actually restarted if you think druttut only complains about any champ he doesn't play when all of the champ he's whining about are all stat checkers and he's also called out riot for leaving akshan ,briar ,Camille, Viego and naafiri when they were obviously very op but they refused to nerf them for many months
@21n0v3mber
@21n0v3mber 3 ай бұрын
​@@torii5307 nah every time I see druttut facing one of these champs you can clearly see how he deeply hates them because of how op they are especially early game
@snrmngr
@snrmngr 3 ай бұрын
thats got to be one of the hardest thumbnails vars has made yet
@noodlesandeggs1512
@noodlesandeggs1512 3 ай бұрын
I would also personally add Sett to this group. He excels in both team fights and single 1v1s. His W especially almost feels like an infinite use ability just because of how good it is. He struggles a bit with range but his ultimate is decent sized and he has his E to keep opponents near him.
@soulstalker4624
@soulstalker4624 3 ай бұрын
Issue is Sett cant really thrive in pro-play's environment thanks to mobility creep and damage creep. Sure, Sett can output 5k worth of true damage with one W, but that alone needs items and good positioning to acomplish, sometimes as Sett I've been cc'd longer than I can W, making W instakill impossible. I'd even say League has also a CC creep, since nowadays its so easy for teammates to pile cc on top of cc. Though Sett does excel in low elo where he exploits lack of positioning, distancing and overall trading knowledge, never go all-in on Sett.
@PsychoticBacon19
@PsychoticBacon19 3 ай бұрын
Considering he didn't include gwen in his horsewomen video I think Vars ignores the newer champs (aka 200 years champs)
@noodlesandeggs1512
@noodlesandeggs1512 3 ай бұрын
@@PsychoticBacon19 I’m not sure if he is 200 years. I think Sett was over buffed when he first came out but now he is fine. 200 years implies he has stuff in his kit that gets rid of his weaknesses or doesn’t fit his archetype
@PsychoticBacon19
@PsychoticBacon19 3 ай бұрын
@@noodlesandeggs1512 I think skooch did a video on this. Sett gets stronger the lower in health he gets plus his regeneration also ramps up so everytime you damage him, he'll hit you back with even more damage. Seems like burst would be the answer then? Well no because if you burst him, you'll allow hit to hit max grit. There's other examples for Sett, but I'd suggest watching the video at that point.
@shaan2639
@shaan2639 3 ай бұрын
@@PsychoticBacon19nah if it was near release Gwen maybe, but she’s not up there with the other 4 horsewomen
@tjstyles1659
@tjstyles1659 3 ай бұрын
I don't know if this is a hot take or not. Jax is the best champion to main, he can do pretty much everything in both teamfight and split push
@Drayconix
@Drayconix 3 ай бұрын
Kinda true once you think about it
@warxdrum
@warxdrum 3 ай бұрын
as an illaoi player this feels more like the four main dishes of top lane 😂 (although jax has felt a bit more annoying after the ult rework)
@StrangeTheEditor
@StrangeTheEditor 3 ай бұрын
Can you do a video (or videos) based on the unique relationship between different roles? For instance, Jungle and Mid (Biggest Impact) Jungle and Support (Map Control Roles), Mid and Top (Lane Swap when needed) ADC and Top (Highest Pressure) or ADC and Support (Forced Partners).
@vincent3363
@vincent3363 3 ай бұрын
When darius start laughing while applyinh his passive you know its bad 😂
@dephy11
@dephy11 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Hopefully someday a four horsewomen/horsemen for the other lanes will be a future video.
@Manzanoide_OG
@Manzanoide_OG 3 ай бұрын
when i played league i used renek mid to destroy melee assassins in mid, it was beautiful
@aaronscott7467
@aaronscott7467 3 ай бұрын
10:26 "champions who only rely even remotely on auto attacks" proceeds to put forward champions who's only form of pressure is their auto attacks.
@pastelantlers7479
@pastelantlers7479 3 ай бұрын
I smell a new series, the horsemen/women of each role
@zeakkyusoku5471
@zeakkyusoku5471 3 ай бұрын
I have an idea for your next top lane video. The four HORSEs of top lane: Vayne, Quinn, Teemo and Akshan. Would be a fun video to watch
@sancho4975
@sancho4975 3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the actual four Horsemen of the Toplane are Vayne, Teemo, Gnar and Quinn 💀
@wastedsoul1024
@wastedsoul1024 3 ай бұрын
Hecarim ruled the world when you can TP anywhere early game.
@eduardobetancourt6677
@eduardobetancourt6677 3 ай бұрын
Very big fan of these series. Hope to see more 👍
@burritogod59
@burritogod59 3 ай бұрын
Tbh all of the four horsemen are fair to play against. The four horse women have been so broken at one time or another they were impossible to deal with.
@KingofAwesomness14
@KingofAwesomness14 3 ай бұрын
the 8 horse people of top lane, the four horsemen and the four horsewomen, neat!
@twentyonebaggagefranklin5075
@twentyonebaggagefranklin5075 3 ай бұрын
Miss q1, miss q2, miss q3 and e auto. My favorite 1 shot combo in the game.
@Depressed_korean
@Depressed_korean 3 ай бұрын
Big man sett stomps all. Proof? I made it the fuck up
@aliasv6964
@aliasv6964 3 ай бұрын
Morning Vars hope you well.
@thejedisonic67
@thejedisonic67 3 ай бұрын
This is why Singed prefers to poison the horse
@Reines_Kokosfett
@Reines_Kokosfett 3 ай бұрын
The true horsemen of top lane are Lord Colonel Major Centurion Kled, High Major Commodore of the First Legion Third Multiplication Double Admiral Artillery Vanguard Company Kled, Lord Major Admiral of the Second Legion's Forward Artillery-Cavalry Multiplication Kled and Sir Admiral Major Kled. Also Skaarl is the only true horsewoman.
@Olenderman
@Olenderman 3 ай бұрын
Renekton heals decent? DECENT? *DECENT*? HE HEALS FUCKING HALF HIS HP BAR EACH TIME HE USES THAT MOVE Anyways great video, as always :D
@vaderwastaken
@vaderwastaken 2 ай бұрын
Aatrox main here the feeling when you just press the r and that noice makes you kill all of them fore more of that noice
@NLLHW
@NLLHW 3 ай бұрын
Me, a Shen main: I guess I'll afk by tower
@StormaLorda
@StormaLorda 3 ай бұрын
Aatrox and Renekton, the best characters in this game. Absolute Beast mode! Renekton basically unchanged since S1, just a great, fun design.
@TherealNiqqa
@TherealNiqqa 3 ай бұрын
I will add Malphite to this group if it's possible. Sure he's not the flashiest or strongest but overal very useful as long as he has his R even when he's behind. Doesn't matter how much damage he can deal since one good ult in teamfight is all it takes to make a come back
@Sieghart712
@Sieghart712 3 ай бұрын
Aatrox's Rework may have killed his playstyle but he has never had stadistics this healthy.
@adamhenriksson6007
@adamhenriksson6007 3 ай бұрын
You could easily add kled to that list lmao. He is a true menace and a 2v1 monster.
@TheGodElf
@TheGodElf 3 ай бұрын
Kinda surprised Mordekaiser wasn’t part of the 4 in this video
@munchiemunchie5226
@munchiemunchie5226 3 ай бұрын
He kinda sucks, like really bad if you know what you're doing.
@weegeearmy1391
@weegeearmy1391 3 ай бұрын
@@munchiemunchie5226Darius sucks too if u know what ur doing. It should be Aatrox, Jax, Renekton, Gnar. I’m picking Gnar even though he’s ranged but he’s good in every elo, pro play, and is somewhat of a fighter as mega gnar . Being good in masters+ and pro play is not something morde or Darius have Then there should be another four horsemen of bruisers good in low elo Darius, Garen, Sett, Morde. Having a dash really changes everything imo
@munchiemunchie5226
@munchiemunchie5226 3 ай бұрын
@@weegeearmy1391 That's... Misleading. Knar is a Pro play champion because of the ability to co-ordinate his strong cc with teammates. Darius is definitely not easy to beat ever? That's just wild, Knar is far easier to beat in lane. You're not really wrong but I can't agree with you either.
@PowerEd8
@PowerEd8 3 ай бұрын
@@munchiemunchie5226 "Knar" XD
@CM-nt5so
@CM-nt5so 3 ай бұрын
WIld considering Trundle beats every single one of them 1v1.
@fernandomendez8553
@fernandomendez8553 3 ай бұрын
Honestly the champs you showed as interchangeable were wrong because the group of champs you mean to cover is the run you down champs and instead of renekton I'd say is wukong
@swaglandking2347
@swaglandking2347 3 ай бұрын
I will single handedly bring pantheon into the top lane horsemen
@soulsemblance3163
@soulsemblance3163 3 ай бұрын
Aatrox is a horseman? The other 3 were pretty much pick or ban at many points without being conceptually busted. For the most part before the healing reduction adjustment, aatrox was okay except when his items were busted or when he had the revive
@hagalathekido
@hagalathekido 3 ай бұрын
You used malphite as an example of what darius counters which couldnt be further from the truth as he can sort of flex into a range playstyle and gets speed+slow on q and r which is effectuvely a get out of jail free card.dariys enjoys immobile short range matchups the most.
@tuongpham7609
@tuongpham7609 3 ай бұрын
Darius and Jax is the bane of every new players nightmare.
@DOMCOM40
@DOMCOM40 3 ай бұрын
The horsewomen require skill. These dudes don’t require skill.
@charmingfox2603
@charmingfox2603 3 ай бұрын
they dont even come close to the level of the the four horsewomen, only aatrox is really worth talking about as he's basically invincible at times
@chriscampbell6922
@chriscampbell6922 3 ай бұрын
What about yone, Vars? Doesn't he deserve to be a horseman?
@BlitzkriegLee0038
@BlitzkriegLee0038 3 ай бұрын
He's not really exclusive to top though. Plus, he isn't as ubiquitous as these other 4. Plus, lets be freak, the windshitters and Yone himself especially, are in a different category of their own.
@SURok695
@SURok695 3 ай бұрын
"But Aatrox's popularity comes from the fact that he's probably closect you can get to safe blindpick" I thought his was popularity COMES from his voicelines.
@OnAa3r
@OnAa3r 3 ай бұрын
I'd love to hear you talk about xin zhao sometime, @Vars
@shxdownxnja2937
@shxdownxnja2937 3 ай бұрын
i'm surprised that olaf isn't here
@williammatkins6348
@williammatkins6348 3 ай бұрын
As a Ksante main, fighting most of these guys are a cakewalk at almost any elo. Except maybe Darius you can whoop most of these guys. Edit: Putting Ksante as one of the horsemen wouldn’t be fair. He is also a mage skirmisher warden assassin marksman hypercarry, so it wouldn’t be inclusive.
@Circatract
@Circatract 3 ай бұрын
you should do the four horsewomen of mid lane tbh
@luvluh
@luvluh 3 ай бұрын
id say 4 horsemen is Garen Darius Jax and Sett
@derbart1191
@derbart1191 3 ай бұрын
I would replace Darius with Rumble, espacially when you think about Pro play
@AshBlossomWorshiper
@AshBlossomWorshiper 3 ай бұрын
Daddy Dar Dar got me into League
@YoungSweezy
@YoungSweezy Ай бұрын
Rene and Jax are fun fights, Darius is just patience test and courage to actaully try to fight him at right time. Aatrox however is very abnoxious lane bully. I always feel like fighting a boss in Elden ring, one bad dodge/mistake and he runs me over.
@yuxie3048
@yuxie3048 3 ай бұрын
I'd be really interested to see a matchup chart of the eight horsemen and horsewomen
@shaan2639
@shaan2639 3 ай бұрын
Jax just wins all tbh.
@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904
@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 2 ай бұрын
Jax loses against a Fiora (honestly, everyone loses against her), and is neutral to good with other enemies. My favorite match-up is Darius since it discourages Jax from going all in (despite that being his strength) since Darius's all-in is arguably the strongest (getting 2-3 items worth of AD is not a joke).
@shaan2639
@shaan2639 2 ай бұрын
@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 jax doesn’t lose to fiora, it’s her hardest matchup because he scales extremely well throughout the entire game. it’s a high skill matchup for sure but the window for Fiora to win is actually pretty small compared to the rest of her matchups. Jax is infact infuriating to play against if you’re playing Fiora/camille/irelia, it’s only riven who can do subpar decent.
@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904
@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 2 ай бұрын
@@shaan2639 Wait really? In my experience with fighting against Fiora, she's like the hardest one to fight against. Her Vitals procs are really annoying to play against, and she deals more damage than Jax after he uses his E (and Fiora uses her W). With Riven though it kinda depends. Most Riven players want to go all-in and ALWAYS bring Ignite in toplane, so I usually play around that by playing safe and trying to rush Steraks (really good item against executes).
@shaan2639
@shaan2639 2 ай бұрын
@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 yeah isn’t there the whole thing of fiora’s q not going through jax’s counterstrike? he can always time his e stun so it’s always harder for fiora to play alongside that whereas other forms of cc are easier to predict. Since lethal tempo removal Jax has been a bit easier to deal with but even in lane with grasp/sheen he just chunks too much.
@pakki2006
@pakki2006 3 ай бұрын
13:04 As an Azir main, I feel you...
@icanmainit1655
@icanmainit1655 3 ай бұрын
hey Vars can you pls make a video on Pantheon syndrome where champions have so good base numbers they become supports (pantheon, sett, ashe, chamile) and if they are ok for the game. love your vids btw
@nimrodszocs2795
@nimrodszocs2795 3 ай бұрын
Camille doesnt have good base numbers, she just has really useful ranged engage in her e, that’s it, it’s just that the ability is broken, and she scales really well too
@timothypaul2794
@timothypaul2794 3 ай бұрын
Metroid music in the back👌🏼👌🏼
@TheCosmicAstro-
@TheCosmicAstro- 3 ай бұрын
Aatrox back in the day maybe but that day is long in the past.
@Discotechque
@Discotechque 3 ай бұрын
Something something season 3 Renekton with 5 brutalizers.
@nicopootato2330
@nicopootato2330 3 ай бұрын
I would put urgot over Jax in this list, I feel like urgot is way more consistent compared to Jax in terms of play rate and pressure
@baptistecochennec5956
@baptistecochennec5956 3 ай бұрын
That's why Jax is, was and will always be more played...
@Lin_Nascimento
@Lin_Nascimento 3 ай бұрын
I think the main reason people don't have them as much, is that you can outplay them much easily. It's fairly easy to dodge aatrox Q's, jax and renek engage is somewhat predictable, and darius just requires good spacing. But people also hate darius bcuz his passive is very stat checky, and jax just splitpushes if he's behind and stat checks with Tri+W
@dassandman300
@dassandman300 3 ай бұрын
Ill see you soon as well, in my dreams.
@ethanyang8702
@ethanyang8702 3 ай бұрын
I feel like sett should be in there somewhere, not sure who to replace but it's probably just my bias speaking.
@beelzeszel
@beelzeszel 3 ай бұрын
Ksante should be on the " to be removed " list , honestly It worse then Yasuo or Yone I've dueled these two sooo many times but Ksante doesnt even needs his R to land on to a long wall to beat the s out of you
@matheusviniciusdemoraes9420
@matheusviniciusdemoraes9420 3 ай бұрын
12:06 Cluster fuck
@asrieldreemurr1918
@asrieldreemurr1918 3 ай бұрын
I feel like sett should be here to but yah this list works
@boldisordorin9010
@boldisordorin9010 3 ай бұрын
I never saw someone call these the 4 horsmen of top. I think this is just picked by you.
@Djrodent1
@Djrodent1 3 ай бұрын
I think garen and morde deserved to be here
@MrCrytown
@MrCrytown 3 ай бұрын
One of these is not like the others. Its Jax. Jax can be shutdown pretty easily early, he's just a beast lategame comparatively.
@filiptruty6367
@filiptruty6367 3 ай бұрын
In my opinion Renekton is and will be the best ever toplaner made.
@wiggajr8119
@wiggajr8119 3 ай бұрын
these are all very good vs camille btw
@evanjacob8463
@evanjacob8463 3 ай бұрын
13:10 I really wish they'd revert his MR nerf from last year :(
@christhis9597
@christhis9597 3 ай бұрын
I personally like renekton and aatrox the most Jax aint for me and its often very difficult to teamfight on darius to me.
@NocturnalPyro
@NocturnalPyro 3 ай бұрын
My main 3 champs to play top right now, is Irelia, Aatrox and Quinn, with the occassional Sett in there, I used to play Morde but I kinda stopped enjoying him, idk why.
@rex1800
@rex1800 3 ай бұрын
hmmmm. I main all 4 of these, mostly darius and jax. never thought of these in this way
@Darkloid21
@Darkloid21 3 ай бұрын
I'd have to disagree with all of these with the exception of Darius and that's not so bad with ghost getting nerfed. Jax is pretty easy to kite and displace since after the leap he's got nothing and just has autos. Renek is only good if the dash hits something. Aatrox if he manages to get in with the ult but like I said if you displace him he's not bad. Like...none of these guys are as terrifying as you make them out to be, definitely not enough to be called horsemen an nowhere near as bad as the horsewomen. Like... I'm WAY more scared of a fed Irelia than fed renek. I really though Sion would be up there since the danger to him is you can't leave lane because then he just takes the whole thing while stacking health each time to be more unkillable.
@Darkhonores
@Darkhonores 3 ай бұрын
Agreed brother. The horsemen of top are easier to play against bcuz they are very limited compared to the horsewomen. They may be tanky and deal damage like crazy but they CANT get to you if you have the same tools they have available (Ghost & Flash), also having peel and a team helps ofc. Horsewomen WILL get to you and have the tools to do so even if you have great peel and sums.
@Andre-Banana
@Andre-Banana 3 ай бұрын
You make sound like jax Q don't have 3 sec cooldown and a E that has 2 seconds duration. If you can avoid its initial engage you would be safe, but that is also valid for camille and irelia dodge her E and R, and they will be in a bad spot.
@Darkloid21
@Darkloid21 3 ай бұрын
@@Darkhonores That's my point. Even if I blink with Ez, OVER A WALL any of them can still catch me. I don't feel safe unless I'm half a screen away from them.
@munchiemunchie5226
@munchiemunchie5226 3 ай бұрын
You did not just say they don't deserve the role, which sure in a weird world maybe. Then you say Sion? Deserves the role? Nah that's trolling.
@Darkloid21
@Darkloid21 3 ай бұрын
@@munchiemunchie5226 It's not really a weird world. They just aren't nearly as threatening as the horsewomen. There is a reason Nerf Irelia is a thing.
@SuperWeeb9000
@SuperWeeb9000 3 ай бұрын
i feel like yorick deserves a spot here more than someone like renekton
@konstantinvojvodic2803
@konstantinvojvodic2803 3 ай бұрын
How about a 4 tank horsemen: Ornn, Volibear, Sion and Nasus?
@siramiel8365
@siramiel8365 3 ай бұрын
Me:* laughs in mordekaiser*
@pottasi
@pottasi 3 ай бұрын
Please make why no one plays Naafari
@dizzyheads
@dizzyheads 3 ай бұрын
Huh Thought Yone would be in this Never really had trouble with these 4 except maybe Jax
@kronosus3666
@kronosus3666 3 ай бұрын
But u forgot about the best counter for all of them... Rammus top
@jetds8466
@jetds8466 3 ай бұрын
@vars how do you get that pov on the footage when your zoomed out and diagonal?
@LoneEditor
@LoneEditor 3 ай бұрын
These guys are why I play ranged top 🙏🏾
@waitngo
@waitngo 3 ай бұрын
Are you the popular trundle main
@crayhack
@crayhack Ай бұрын
would illaoi be considered a horseman or horsewoman? she has more in common with these guys than with the horsewomen. also you forgot the most important horseman, hecarim
@yomatokamari
@yomatokamari 3 ай бұрын
Singed is based on one of the horsemen.
@pottasi
@pottasi 3 ай бұрын
12:02 how tf did he get that pov ?
@TherealNiqqa
@TherealNiqqa 3 ай бұрын
I knew this day would come lol
@spudkin564
@spudkin564 3 ай бұрын
The worst thing about Renekton is that his early game is actually terrible, but only when I play him.
@mrgjsolorio
@mrgjsolorio 3 ай бұрын
is there a version of this for all 5 roles or just top?
@ozanahmetmutluay46
@ozanahmetmutluay46 20 күн бұрын
Garen should be one of the horseman
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