Going by my type of champions I´d rather play vs the Horsemen anyday than the horsewomen of top. Simply bcuz kit simplicity and they are way easier to play against than the horsewoman who has so much mobility, flashy and unexpected things they can do.
@koven-thecovenantofmerakya50603 ай бұрын
I partially agree, i despise both horseriders, the 4 horsemen are practically unkillable once they're fed, insane sustain and stable dps are pain in the ass, but if they're behind they're a glorified super minions, good thing if its the enemy team, but hellish experience if it's your team(at least they can still be meatshields). The horsewomen tho, they are unpredictable, huge burst to the point they could heavily cripple you in one combo, and can get out of fights quickly, most of them are better off acting as split pushers than joining teamfights if they're behind But hey, they're better than a top lane vayne at least
@Andre-Banana3 ай бұрын
I'm on the opposite side of this, I prefer playing against the horsewoman, because if you can eliminate then on the early game they will just a minion running around. While horseman there is always something in their kits that can win the game, Jax/Aatrox/renek can take enemy time and even stop the carry for sometime, darius always have that 1000 true damage pression. A weak irelia/riven/camille/fiora will do what, they can't burst and can't tank, they will be a little annoyance before been killed. They need to be at least even to be threat, but when they are ahead...
@tbone94743 ай бұрын
Agreed. Gimme a 1 trick darius over a 1 trick irelia
@ramenemu_43763 ай бұрын
@@koven-thecovenantofmerakya5060 Darius, Jax, and Aatrox are literally always a problem. I have no clue what you're talking about.
@koven-thecovenantofmerakya50603 ай бұрын
@@ramenemu_4376 just saying i despise both teams of horse riders of the apocalypse, they both have strength and weaknesses and both are pain to deal with, op said they prefer fighting the horsemen than the horsewoman , i partially agree with that statement bcs i despise both. As much as cancerous they are, i rather fight against them rather than against ranged top laners(except kayle, she's food if you pressure her in the early game) especially vayne
@DSMister3 ай бұрын
There's the 4 horsemen that you list (Darius, Renekton, Aatrox, Jax) There's the 4 horsewomen (Camille, Irelia, Riven, Fiora). Then there's Illaoi, who somehow manages to be both at the same time.
@shaan26393 ай бұрын
it’s actually funny that illaoi has a hugely different win con with each one of the horsemen and horsewomen
@ambershangout72263 ай бұрын
A horseman video without Hecarim? blasphemy!
@Hallorenzo3 ай бұрын
He even used to be a toplaner!
@lukebell74633 ай бұрын
Hes not a horseman anymore hes a horse man
@Crause88fin3 ай бұрын
Now I want a Vars video discussing the hooved trio of Hecarim, Rell and Lillia in the same video. Just, like, for reasons.
@Steve_Goodman3 ай бұрын
What?@@Hallorenzo
@farisrafimeitaputra91783 ай бұрын
IKR! the audacity & atrocity are beyond me
@ironboy32453 ай бұрын
should have been called the four pillarmen of top AYAYAYAA ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ
@skyler14693 ай бұрын
Yes!
@misteriousgamers92903 ай бұрын
To be honest if it was called that and it didn't had trundle on the list i would have been GREATLY disappointed
@muhammadsyafiq74313 ай бұрын
Why do i automatically hear the song.. AYAYAYAYAAA~~~
@mateuszkucharski13503 ай бұрын
Hard to imagine toplane without this champions.
@MaidenlessScrub3 ай бұрын
You can argue that Aatrox is something of a vampire himself
@pubfriendthegreat12593 ай бұрын
Renekton isn't a horseman. he's a crocman.
@ThundererR64T3 ай бұрын
horsecroc
@ThundererR64T3 ай бұрын
wait that sounds a bit familiar...
@tiziankempe48903 ай бұрын
@@ThundererR64T sounds like something I unfortunately massively lack
@TherealNiqqa3 ай бұрын
@@ThundererR64T yeah you're going to jail
@SoulGaleo19923 ай бұрын
No, he's a Florida man.
@lunathic3 ай бұрын
0:30 As someone with hundreds of games in Iron to Silver I can say with full confidence that absolutely noone plays Renekton down there, my guess is that the reason for this is that he mainly punishes high mechanics champions like Riven which is also rare down there, but what do i know.
@dreamergamer92913 ай бұрын
renekton requires more skill than jax or darius because of fury management and trade patterns
@luizotavio443 ай бұрын
@@dreamergamer9291also that he is always weak as fuck due to his prominence in pro play
@francooronacaratti90853 ай бұрын
idk, im a diamond player, nothing too special, but everytime i play in a smurf to duo with friends who are new to league i just play/recomend them to play renek and its free win. nobody knows how to stand your early game nor punish your lategame weaknesses
@richardusspqr69553 ай бұрын
I would say renek is a champ that teaches fundamentals that gets you to gold as long as you play with at least 7 brain cells this coming from someone that got plat for the first time as renek a few years ago and is still one of my main champs when in top lane (I traded to jg though in s10 and now main lightning bear).
@DIAX93 ай бұрын
idk i think he should be pretty fine to pull off in low elos i quite litterally started to play him while smurfing with my friends and for the first 10 games i played exactly the same and i never had an issue
@MadIIMike3 ай бұрын
Those champs: exist. My 1-7 ADC: oh, a bunch of creeps near their inner toplane turret, I might finally get my first item, what could possibly go wrong?
@lovableairheadmile68093 ай бұрын
Proceeds to get jumped by Jax followed with a stun and boom 1-8
@RecklessZeta3 ай бұрын
I really think that the execution of Renekton is just so good. He is a drain tank, skirmisher who gets hardly punished for not taking dominance in lane, favoring those who understand the fundamentals of lane (lvl timers, wave management and prio), do to having less of a scale compared to other top champions. Plus, he is a really good response against the wind brothers... So its a green flag for me!
@Zobuyta3 ай бұрын
I agree. Renekton is so nicely designed and would have been my number1 pick for toplane but I sadly suck
@dylan37463 ай бұрын
Sadly his best build is burst 1 shot due to his wack scaling that you need to play him perfect otherwise you fall off hard
@uniguy46473 ай бұрын
Whaaat are you even talking about? Renecton and similar to him champs should be deleted or reworked.@@Zobuyta
@JuristPugilist3 ай бұрын
Renekton is one of those champions that is made or broken by itemization. Every time he is strong it’s because he abuses a specific overturned item. It has at different times been botrk, cleaver, hydra, and now sundered and shojin.
@bbnumber26433 ай бұрын
@@JuristPugilist That's true for most non-supports in the game tbf. Item balance can determine if whole swathes of champs are playable or not
@dcyoung88873 ай бұрын
Love how you used Ridley’s theme from Smash Bros Ultimate for the video. Shows the meaning of doom and dread, yes the last part was intended.
@soulstalker46243 ай бұрын
Main gripe with Renekton is how much of a short end of the stick he gets thanks to items being broken. Rios balancing team has an specific MO when it comes to champion and item balance. 1. Release broken item with no play-testing (PBE is a lie) 2. Item has an specific interaction with a champ (Renekton) that makes said champ incredibly broken 3. Pros abuse the hell of that champ because of the item. 4. Riot takes notice and decides to release nerfs throughout time to put the champ in a more stable state. 5. The champ is completely useless without the item, so people will still play it with it. 6. Riot finally realizes the item is the one thats broken because other champs statted to buld it. 7. Nerf the item to a stable state. 8. The champ that used to abuse the item is forgotten by Riot and never buffed. 9. Another broken item releases that buffs the champ 10. Rinse and repeat.
@TheCosmicAstro-3 ай бұрын
Happens to a lot of champs. Riot is just stupid
@einjharrelraca3 ай бұрын
and here you see why mages are PISSED right now.
@tristan67733 ай бұрын
@@einjharrelracamages were strong for like the first 2 weeks of each split this year
@soulstalker46243 ай бұрын
@@einjharrelraca Mages getting shafted out of midlane into support is sad. Mostly since I hate seeing mages as supports and facing off against Heimer or Zyra as a Rell is a nightmare. But can't blame them, Rito thought it would be funny for mages to get nerfed because of the crazy overtuned items they made.
@einjharrelraca3 ай бұрын
@@soulstalker4624 they do it every pre season. they always either give mages a turbo busted item, just so they can hit the entire class with the riot special, OR they put out some batshit insane new lethality item that lets assassins invalidate mages even harder than they already do.
@toseno89783 ай бұрын
REAL for Four horse(?)man(?) -Hecarim -Kled -Rell -Sejuani
@Ragnarons3 ай бұрын
The mountfellas
@hellup3 ай бұрын
Nunu?
@roguewasbanned47463 ай бұрын
Learning Kled atm because I feel he’s so underplayed rn that you can catch people off guard or knowledge check. Like the Sejuani top otp that I met
@Lord_Pyyr3 ай бұрын
I’m about to go on break and I go “I don’t think I’ve seen this Vars video yet” and then I see ‘1 hour ago’. That’s Vars for ya; posting exactly when you need him to 🙏🙏🙏
@thereaper79263 ай бұрын
You know they are staple picks,when you main 2 of them, occasionally use one as a counterpick and perma ban the other
@DoloresBTW2 ай бұрын
You ban jax right? RIGHT?
@thereaper79262 ай бұрын
@@DoloresBTW 😈
@DoloresBTW2 ай бұрын
@@thereaper7926 am I correct pls answear ill never be in peace if i dont know
@thereaper79262 ай бұрын
@@DoloresBTW yes I ban jax lol,fuck that champ
@JustinSeizure3 ай бұрын
I respect these guys so much more than the four smurfwomen.
@halycon4043 ай бұрын
Not Aatrox. His winrate isn't a reflection of how busted he really is. His winrate is low because 50% of the time he picks first and gets hard counterpicked. Add in the games where he just get messed over by luck of the draw on teammates and he's sub 50%. Yet still a sky high pickrate at all ranks because anything that isn't a direct counter he just rolls over. He isn't balanced by his kit. He's balanced by how hard he is counterpicked. Aatrox is played so often that his counter picks have an inflated pick and win rate that makes them look better than they actually are.
@tristan67733 ай бұрын
@@halycon404who are the aatrox counter picks?
@halycon4043 ай бұрын
@@tristan6773 Kennan absolutely stomps him. Almost all games Kennan plays in at Master+ are against Aatrox. He sits at a absurdly high win rate and game played because of it. Aatrox is picked about 10% of the time. Around a third of all Aatrox games are against Kennan at high ELO. That's Kennan's entire 3% pick rate. It would be higher but Kennan's ban rate is absurd for how often he is played, almost bans from an Aatrox's are for Kennan.
@renssmits24303 ай бұрын
@@tristan6773 as an aatrox otp, o feel like i have a good understanding of which champions beat aatrox: The usual fiora and irelia, but a good aatrox player will beat you if you first time fiora or irelia. Even though aatrox is strong against ranged champs, vayne, kennen, kayle and quinn are very hard lanes. Further more: aatrox doesnt like to be all-inned. Champs with a dash to get on top of the world ender, tryndamere, renekton, darius+ghost etc. Since aatrox Q doesnt deal %-health damage, malphite and ornn are almost unwinnable lanes. DO NOT pick sion, cho or mundo: they get eaten alive by aatrox. To round this stupidly long and pointless comment off: aatrox doesnt like dashes or movement speed. If you are really desperate: zed, leblanc, lillia etc. Will destroy aatrox late game, no matter how fet he is
@JustinSeizure3 ай бұрын
@@halycon404 so Kennen* is one counter, what are the others? I dunno, I don’t see him that often and he def doesn’t always win. Super clunky and slow champ with many openings for punishment. Irelia and Fiora however can lose lane hard, but it doesn’t matter at all cause their designs just let them be relevant anyway.
@shodore3 ай бұрын
I can hear Druttut screeching from here.
@torii53073 ай бұрын
pretty sure he only actually hates playing against renekton and jax (both are constantly in his perma ban pool), the other two he has counters he can play
@sheepenjoyer30073 ай бұрын
@@torii5307yeah, drututt has a habit of complaining about everything he doesn’t play
@21n0v3mber3 ай бұрын
@@sheepenjoyer3007 nah you're actually restarted if you think druttut only complains about any champ he doesn't play when all of the champ he's whining about are all stat checkers and he's also called out riot for leaving akshan ,briar ,Camille, Viego and naafiri when they were obviously very op but they refused to nerf them for many months
@21n0v3mber3 ай бұрын
@@torii5307 nah every time I see druttut facing one of these champs you can clearly see how he deeply hates them because of how op they are especially early game
@snrmngr3 ай бұрын
thats got to be one of the hardest thumbnails vars has made yet
@noodlesandeggs15123 ай бұрын
I would also personally add Sett to this group. He excels in both team fights and single 1v1s. His W especially almost feels like an infinite use ability just because of how good it is. He struggles a bit with range but his ultimate is decent sized and he has his E to keep opponents near him.
@soulstalker46243 ай бұрын
Issue is Sett cant really thrive in pro-play's environment thanks to mobility creep and damage creep. Sure, Sett can output 5k worth of true damage with one W, but that alone needs items and good positioning to acomplish, sometimes as Sett I've been cc'd longer than I can W, making W instakill impossible. I'd even say League has also a CC creep, since nowadays its so easy for teammates to pile cc on top of cc. Though Sett does excel in low elo where he exploits lack of positioning, distancing and overall trading knowledge, never go all-in on Sett.
@PsychoticBacon193 ай бұрын
Considering he didn't include gwen in his horsewomen video I think Vars ignores the newer champs (aka 200 years champs)
@noodlesandeggs15123 ай бұрын
@@PsychoticBacon19 I’m not sure if he is 200 years. I think Sett was over buffed when he first came out but now he is fine. 200 years implies he has stuff in his kit that gets rid of his weaknesses or doesn’t fit his archetype
@PsychoticBacon193 ай бұрын
@@noodlesandeggs1512 I think skooch did a video on this. Sett gets stronger the lower in health he gets plus his regeneration also ramps up so everytime you damage him, he'll hit you back with even more damage. Seems like burst would be the answer then? Well no because if you burst him, you'll allow hit to hit max grit. There's other examples for Sett, but I'd suggest watching the video at that point.
@shaan26393 ай бұрын
@@PsychoticBacon19nah if it was near release Gwen maybe, but she’s not up there with the other 4 horsewomen
@tjstyles16593 ай бұрын
I don't know if this is a hot take or not. Jax is the best champion to main, he can do pretty much everything in both teamfight and split push
@Drayconix3 ай бұрын
Kinda true once you think about it
@warxdrum3 ай бұрын
as an illaoi player this feels more like the four main dishes of top lane 😂 (although jax has felt a bit more annoying after the ult rework)
@StrangeTheEditor3 ай бұрын
Can you do a video (or videos) based on the unique relationship between different roles? For instance, Jungle and Mid (Biggest Impact) Jungle and Support (Map Control Roles), Mid and Top (Lane Swap when needed) ADC and Top (Highest Pressure) or ADC and Support (Forced Partners).
@vincent33633 ай бұрын
When darius start laughing while applyinh his passive you know its bad 😂
@dephy112 ай бұрын
Great video. Hopefully someday a four horsewomen/horsemen for the other lanes will be a future video.
@Manzanoide_OG3 ай бұрын
when i played league i used renek mid to destroy melee assassins in mid, it was beautiful
@aaronscott74673 ай бұрын
10:26 "champions who only rely even remotely on auto attacks" proceeds to put forward champions who's only form of pressure is their auto attacks.
@pastelantlers74793 ай бұрын
I smell a new series, the horsemen/women of each role
@zeakkyusoku54713 ай бұрын
I have an idea for your next top lane video. The four HORSEs of top lane: Vayne, Quinn, Teemo and Akshan. Would be a fun video to watch
@sancho49753 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure the actual four Horsemen of the Toplane are Vayne, Teemo, Gnar and Quinn 💀
@wastedsoul10243 ай бұрын
Hecarim ruled the world when you can TP anywhere early game.
@eduardobetancourt66773 ай бұрын
Very big fan of these series. Hope to see more 👍
@burritogod593 ай бұрын
Tbh all of the four horsemen are fair to play against. The four horse women have been so broken at one time or another they were impossible to deal with.
@KingofAwesomness143 ай бұрын
the 8 horse people of top lane, the four horsemen and the four horsewomen, neat!
@twentyonebaggagefranklin50753 ай бұрын
Miss q1, miss q2, miss q3 and e auto. My favorite 1 shot combo in the game.
@Depressed_korean3 ай бұрын
Big man sett stomps all. Proof? I made it the fuck up
@aliasv69643 ай бұрын
Morning Vars hope you well.
@thejedisonic673 ай бұрын
This is why Singed prefers to poison the horse
@Reines_Kokosfett3 ай бұрын
The true horsemen of top lane are Lord Colonel Major Centurion Kled, High Major Commodore of the First Legion Third Multiplication Double Admiral Artillery Vanguard Company Kled, Lord Major Admiral of the Second Legion's Forward Artillery-Cavalry Multiplication Kled and Sir Admiral Major Kled. Also Skaarl is the only true horsewoman.
@Olenderman3 ай бұрын
Renekton heals decent? DECENT? *DECENT*? HE HEALS FUCKING HALF HIS HP BAR EACH TIME HE USES THAT MOVE Anyways great video, as always :D
@vaderwastaken2 ай бұрын
Aatrox main here the feeling when you just press the r and that noice makes you kill all of them fore more of that noice
@NLLHW3 ай бұрын
Me, a Shen main: I guess I'll afk by tower
@StormaLorda3 ай бұрын
Aatrox and Renekton, the best characters in this game. Absolute Beast mode! Renekton basically unchanged since S1, just a great, fun design.
@TherealNiqqa3 ай бұрын
I will add Malphite to this group if it's possible. Sure he's not the flashiest or strongest but overal very useful as long as he has his R even when he's behind. Doesn't matter how much damage he can deal since one good ult in teamfight is all it takes to make a come back
@Sieghart7123 ай бұрын
Aatrox's Rework may have killed his playstyle but he has never had stadistics this healthy.
@adamhenriksson60073 ай бұрын
You could easily add kled to that list lmao. He is a true menace and a 2v1 monster.
@TheGodElf3 ай бұрын
Kinda surprised Mordekaiser wasn’t part of the 4 in this video
@munchiemunchie52263 ай бұрын
He kinda sucks, like really bad if you know what you're doing.
@weegeearmy13913 ай бұрын
@@munchiemunchie5226Darius sucks too if u know what ur doing. It should be Aatrox, Jax, Renekton, Gnar. I’m picking Gnar even though he’s ranged but he’s good in every elo, pro play, and is somewhat of a fighter as mega gnar . Being good in masters+ and pro play is not something morde or Darius have Then there should be another four horsemen of bruisers good in low elo Darius, Garen, Sett, Morde. Having a dash really changes everything imo
@munchiemunchie52263 ай бұрын
@@weegeearmy1391 That's... Misleading. Knar is a Pro play champion because of the ability to co-ordinate his strong cc with teammates. Darius is definitely not easy to beat ever? That's just wild, Knar is far easier to beat in lane. You're not really wrong but I can't agree with you either.
@PowerEd83 ай бұрын
@@munchiemunchie5226 "Knar" XD
@CM-nt5so3 ай бұрын
WIld considering Trundle beats every single one of them 1v1.
@fernandomendez85533 ай бұрын
Honestly the champs you showed as interchangeable were wrong because the group of champs you mean to cover is the run you down champs and instead of renekton I'd say is wukong
@swaglandking23473 ай бұрын
I will single handedly bring pantheon into the top lane horsemen
@soulsemblance31633 ай бұрын
Aatrox is a horseman? The other 3 were pretty much pick or ban at many points without being conceptually busted. For the most part before the healing reduction adjustment, aatrox was okay except when his items were busted or when he had the revive
@hagalathekido3 ай бұрын
You used malphite as an example of what darius counters which couldnt be further from the truth as he can sort of flex into a range playstyle and gets speed+slow on q and r which is effectuvely a get out of jail free card.dariys enjoys immobile short range matchups the most.
@tuongpham76093 ай бұрын
Darius and Jax is the bane of every new players nightmare.
@DOMCOM403 ай бұрын
The horsewomen require skill. These dudes don’t require skill.
@charmingfox26033 ай бұрын
they dont even come close to the level of the the four horsewomen, only aatrox is really worth talking about as he's basically invincible at times
@chriscampbell69223 ай бұрын
What about yone, Vars? Doesn't he deserve to be a horseman?
@BlitzkriegLee00383 ай бұрын
He's not really exclusive to top though. Plus, he isn't as ubiquitous as these other 4. Plus, lets be freak, the windshitters and Yone himself especially, are in a different category of their own.
@SURok6953 ай бұрын
"But Aatrox's popularity comes from the fact that he's probably closect you can get to safe blindpick" I thought his was popularity COMES from his voicelines.
@OnAa3r3 ай бұрын
I'd love to hear you talk about xin zhao sometime, @Vars
@shxdownxnja29373 ай бұрын
i'm surprised that olaf isn't here
@williammatkins63483 ай бұрын
As a Ksante main, fighting most of these guys are a cakewalk at almost any elo. Except maybe Darius you can whoop most of these guys. Edit: Putting Ksante as one of the horsemen wouldn’t be fair. He is also a mage skirmisher warden assassin marksman hypercarry, so it wouldn’t be inclusive.
@Circatract3 ай бұрын
you should do the four horsewomen of mid lane tbh
@luvluh3 ай бұрын
id say 4 horsemen is Garen Darius Jax and Sett
@derbart11913 ай бұрын
I would replace Darius with Rumble, espacially when you think about Pro play
@AshBlossomWorshiper3 ай бұрын
Daddy Dar Dar got me into League
@YoungSweezyАй бұрын
Rene and Jax are fun fights, Darius is just patience test and courage to actaully try to fight him at right time. Aatrox however is very abnoxious lane bully. I always feel like fighting a boss in Elden ring, one bad dodge/mistake and he runs me over.
@yuxie30483 ай бұрын
I'd be really interested to see a matchup chart of the eight horsemen and horsewomen
@shaan26393 ай бұрын
Jax just wins all tbh.
@lordpaulphilippfernandez99042 ай бұрын
Jax loses against a Fiora (honestly, everyone loses against her), and is neutral to good with other enemies. My favorite match-up is Darius since it discourages Jax from going all in (despite that being his strength) since Darius's all-in is arguably the strongest (getting 2-3 items worth of AD is not a joke).
@shaan26392 ай бұрын
@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 jax doesn’t lose to fiora, it’s her hardest matchup because he scales extremely well throughout the entire game. it’s a high skill matchup for sure but the window for Fiora to win is actually pretty small compared to the rest of her matchups. Jax is infact infuriating to play against if you’re playing Fiora/camille/irelia, it’s only riven who can do subpar decent.
@lordpaulphilippfernandez99042 ай бұрын
@@shaan2639 Wait really? In my experience with fighting against Fiora, she's like the hardest one to fight against. Her Vitals procs are really annoying to play against, and she deals more damage than Jax after he uses his E (and Fiora uses her W). With Riven though it kinda depends. Most Riven players want to go all-in and ALWAYS bring Ignite in toplane, so I usually play around that by playing safe and trying to rush Steraks (really good item against executes).
@shaan26392 ай бұрын
@@lordpaulphilippfernandez9904 yeah isn’t there the whole thing of fiora’s q not going through jax’s counterstrike? he can always time his e stun so it’s always harder for fiora to play alongside that whereas other forms of cc are easier to predict. Since lethal tempo removal Jax has been a bit easier to deal with but even in lane with grasp/sheen he just chunks too much.
@pakki20063 ай бұрын
13:04 As an Azir main, I feel you...
@icanmainit16553 ай бұрын
hey Vars can you pls make a video on Pantheon syndrome where champions have so good base numbers they become supports (pantheon, sett, ashe, chamile) and if they are ok for the game. love your vids btw
@nimrodszocs27953 ай бұрын
Camille doesnt have good base numbers, she just has really useful ranged engage in her e, that’s it, it’s just that the ability is broken, and she scales really well too
@timothypaul27943 ай бұрын
Metroid music in the back👌🏼👌🏼
@TheCosmicAstro-3 ай бұрын
Aatrox back in the day maybe but that day is long in the past.
@Discotechque3 ай бұрын
Something something season 3 Renekton with 5 brutalizers.
@nicopootato23303 ай бұрын
I would put urgot over Jax in this list, I feel like urgot is way more consistent compared to Jax in terms of play rate and pressure
@baptistecochennec59563 ай бұрын
That's why Jax is, was and will always be more played...
@Lin_Nascimento3 ай бұрын
I think the main reason people don't have them as much, is that you can outplay them much easily. It's fairly easy to dodge aatrox Q's, jax and renek engage is somewhat predictable, and darius just requires good spacing. But people also hate darius bcuz his passive is very stat checky, and jax just splitpushes if he's behind and stat checks with Tri+W
@dassandman3003 ай бұрын
Ill see you soon as well, in my dreams.
@ethanyang87023 ай бұрын
I feel like sett should be in there somewhere, not sure who to replace but it's probably just my bias speaking.
@beelzeszel3 ай бұрын
Ksante should be on the " to be removed " list , honestly It worse then Yasuo or Yone I've dueled these two sooo many times but Ksante doesnt even needs his R to land on to a long wall to beat the s out of you
@matheusviniciusdemoraes94203 ай бұрын
12:06 Cluster fuck
@asrieldreemurr19183 ай бұрын
I feel like sett should be here to but yah this list works
@boldisordorin90103 ай бұрын
I never saw someone call these the 4 horsmen of top. I think this is just picked by you.
@Djrodent13 ай бұрын
I think garen and morde deserved to be here
@MrCrytown3 ай бұрын
One of these is not like the others. Its Jax. Jax can be shutdown pretty easily early, he's just a beast lategame comparatively.
@filiptruty63673 ай бұрын
In my opinion Renekton is and will be the best ever toplaner made.
@wiggajr81193 ай бұрын
these are all very good vs camille btw
@evanjacob84633 ай бұрын
13:10 I really wish they'd revert his MR nerf from last year :(
@christhis95973 ай бұрын
I personally like renekton and aatrox the most Jax aint for me and its often very difficult to teamfight on darius to me.
@NocturnalPyro3 ай бұрын
My main 3 champs to play top right now, is Irelia, Aatrox and Quinn, with the occassional Sett in there, I used to play Morde but I kinda stopped enjoying him, idk why.
@rex18003 ай бұрын
hmmmm. I main all 4 of these, mostly darius and jax. never thought of these in this way
@Darkloid213 ай бұрын
I'd have to disagree with all of these with the exception of Darius and that's not so bad with ghost getting nerfed. Jax is pretty easy to kite and displace since after the leap he's got nothing and just has autos. Renek is only good if the dash hits something. Aatrox if he manages to get in with the ult but like I said if you displace him he's not bad. Like...none of these guys are as terrifying as you make them out to be, definitely not enough to be called horsemen an nowhere near as bad as the horsewomen. Like... I'm WAY more scared of a fed Irelia than fed renek. I really though Sion would be up there since the danger to him is you can't leave lane because then he just takes the whole thing while stacking health each time to be more unkillable.
@Darkhonores3 ай бұрын
Agreed brother. The horsemen of top are easier to play against bcuz they are very limited compared to the horsewomen. They may be tanky and deal damage like crazy but they CANT get to you if you have the same tools they have available (Ghost & Flash), also having peel and a team helps ofc. Horsewomen WILL get to you and have the tools to do so even if you have great peel and sums.
@Andre-Banana3 ай бұрын
You make sound like jax Q don't have 3 sec cooldown and a E that has 2 seconds duration. If you can avoid its initial engage you would be safe, but that is also valid for camille and irelia dodge her E and R, and they will be in a bad spot.
@Darkloid213 ай бұрын
@@Darkhonores That's my point. Even if I blink with Ez, OVER A WALL any of them can still catch me. I don't feel safe unless I'm half a screen away from them.
@munchiemunchie52263 ай бұрын
You did not just say they don't deserve the role, which sure in a weird world maybe. Then you say Sion? Deserves the role? Nah that's trolling.
@Darkloid213 ай бұрын
@@munchiemunchie5226 It's not really a weird world. They just aren't nearly as threatening as the horsewomen. There is a reason Nerf Irelia is a thing.
@SuperWeeb90003 ай бұрын
i feel like yorick deserves a spot here more than someone like renekton
@konstantinvojvodic28033 ай бұрын
How about a 4 tank horsemen: Ornn, Volibear, Sion and Nasus?
@siramiel83653 ай бұрын
Me:* laughs in mordekaiser*
@pottasi3 ай бұрын
Please make why no one plays Naafari
@dizzyheads3 ай бұрын
Huh Thought Yone would be in this Never really had trouble with these 4 except maybe Jax
@kronosus36663 ай бұрын
But u forgot about the best counter for all of them... Rammus top
@jetds84663 ай бұрын
@vars how do you get that pov on the footage when your zoomed out and diagonal?
@LoneEditor3 ай бұрын
These guys are why I play ranged top 🙏🏾
@waitngo3 ай бұрын
Are you the popular trundle main
@crayhackАй бұрын
would illaoi be considered a horseman or horsewoman? she has more in common with these guys than with the horsewomen. also you forgot the most important horseman, hecarim
@yomatokamari3 ай бұрын
Singed is based on one of the horsemen.
@pottasi3 ай бұрын
12:02 how tf did he get that pov ?
@TherealNiqqa3 ай бұрын
I knew this day would come lol
@spudkin5643 ай бұрын
The worst thing about Renekton is that his early game is actually terrible, but only when I play him.
@mrgjsolorio3 ай бұрын
is there a version of this for all 5 roles or just top?