The Fractured Relationships Of Onision - A Darker Side | TRO

The Right Opinion: The Fractured Relationships Of Onision - A Story Of Controversy | TRO
It wasn’t just a control thing over Onision's audience, it was something that he wanted to bring into his personal life, and that which could be found in all of his relationships, often to a degree in which questions would be asked. That’s where we’re going now. I don’t think this part needs too much of an intro, I suggest we just make like DeFranco and jump right in.
If you’ve watched my part in J Aubrey’s video, you’ll likely know that I have had the displeasure of researching a large majority Onision’s relationships while on KZbin, back then, however, it was a matter of tackling the subject from a standpoint of neutrality. Now we are back on my channel and we have already discussed a strong level of theory as it is, I feel we can take that evidence that was shown and use it more inductively.
Onision is a control freak, he wants to shape his life around the fantasies, many of which involve KZbin, and involve people. Having control over a fanbase is one thing, having control over a partner is another, as said, physical proximity works in very significant ways, and by creating relationships he could manufacture new conflicts to present to his audience, but he had his preference.
I don’t know if his choice to enter relationships with younger girls was a kink thing or more a control thing, but going after people who are lacking direction, in a vulnerable position, and open to having someone support them often led Onision to relationships with those between the ages of 16 and 18. Over the years, as he aged, and as he got through a fair few relationships, the age gaps increased, showing that he was still targeting the same people? What exactly did he want? Let’s talk about the relationships of Onision.

[@TheRightOpinion]

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[@JordyValentine]

Everyone did an awesome job :)

[@jasonsobotka3657]

I ❤️ u

[@birdee3000]

The Right Opinion you shouldn’t of took the ads out with these quality of videos you deserve the revenue

[@kayb5966]

@@birdee3000 Agreed but Onision has been known to be copyright strike happy so if he did have ads on then Onsion would copyright the video then all the revenue would go to that twat.

[@benstyman7792]

This vid is insane. Well done to everyone involved in making it

[@CANADA11118]

"He said come back in 10 years, when she's 25" WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO WEE WOO

[@JODRecaps]

hello jena. btw super bowl 2020 is boring

[@CANADA11118]

@@JODRecaps big true. Man throw ball, but for 40 million dollars

[@Famegal123]

yea like its not like adding 10 to a number is so hard that he misspoke. like to me you cant make that argument when any number plus ten is easy math that you cant accidentally say 25 when you mean 27 or 28 come on. so the fact she was 15 and the dad was like fuck no and greg tries to make the dad look like the villain is just wild

[@kayr2901]

JODisHere you must be just as drunk as I am because you’re comment made sense thank gosh for autocorrect

[@MeCooper]

@Some Guy Mate I don't even know who they are but like...The channel name is a dead giveaway.🤣

[@saturn12002]

"you cheated on my wife" is the single greatest sentence I have ever heard.

[@dysmissme7343]

Vulpes Inculta dear god..

[@med_jelly]

"you cheated on my wife [with me but shhh]" -Onion boy

[@JODRecaps]

hi vulpes. onision is onion?

[@BillClinton228]

He's the perfect example of how good looking people can do ANYTHING and they will still be famous. Onision will always have an army of teen girl groupies... even if he films himself killing a bunch of kittens and upload it to youtube

[@yungboy4216]

@@JODRecaps can you go away?

[@loretafornelli5324]

the fact that this man has CHILDREN is horrifying to me

[@JDog-ge3bz]

Social services anyone?

[@alexpriedite1447]

WOW

[@aryadatla4702]

he has what now?!!!!

[@user-vz5wu8ty3z]

Who fucking allowed that to happen?!

[@TheFakeyCakeMaker]

Which one?

[@darrelwilliams5513]

"He told me to come back in ten years when she was like 25..." "He told me to come back in ten years when she was like 25..." "He told me to come back in ten years when she was like 25..." "He told me to come back in ten years when she was like 25..." This clip alone should be enough evidence to form a criminal investigation.

[@guacamollie2460]

aaAAAAAAAAA

[@LateNightTableCo]

I feel like he just forgot to say the word “or” but the fact he didn’t ever go back and correct it just sends chills down my spines

[@LeeLee1985Official]

Agreed!

[@lota4591]

first time i heard that when watching the video i didn’t think anything of it, but like ten mins later i did the math and it clicked, he said it in such a casual way that my dumb brain didn’t pick up on it initially 💀

[@manderly33]

@@LateNightTableCo He said it twice the same way. There was no “or.”

[@jessip8654]

The real hero here is Shiloh's mom for hiding the hell out of her passport.

[@JODRecaps]

hello cheeze. btw super bowl 2020 is boring

[@smb.]

Honestly. She had a chance to keep her daughter away from that idiot and she hopped on it immediately

[@Baky_T]

THAT'S THE BEST THING ABOUT THE STORY 👌 Thanks for mentioning that! So many forget about her heroic act, which saved Shiloh. I think Shiloh was so incredibly manipulated that she'd go right back to him into this abusive relationship full of destruction... I grew up between narcs, I know how it is and how it can happen that you believe the things they tell you sooner or later... Narcs KNOW how to manipulate... THEY are the master mind in manipulation. But that's it with the master mind. Because else they're just dumb as ef.

[@videobloke5181]

amen

[@charlesmartiniii1405]

@@JODRecaps no it ain't. Dog it was a good fricken game.

[@NoTimeToExplain-]

Onision 2012-2019: I did not diddle kids. Onision 2020: yes, I diddled kids. But they were emotionally flawed children. One smoked weed. One lied. One had a miscarriage to make me look bad.

[@faeriegraver]

Lmaoooo

[@thorsday121]

It's hard to even laugh because he really is doing that.

[@siberian_breakz]

😅 I shouldn't have laughed at this but damn

[@paleprince7983]

*implying* *that* *17* *year* *olds* *are* *children*

[@claudiobeachball]

@@paleprince7983 They sure aren't adults.

[@limeisntinteresting]

Onision has "published" 3 books so far which have female characters whose only personality is "quirky abused girl falls for the alpha male". In his first book, the female love interest is called Abigail. Abigail is the name of his daughter which is fucking disgusting

[@trip2themoon]

Didn't know he had a daughter. Wonder how he'll feel if she ends up with a man like him?

[@limeisntinteresting]

@@trip2themoon god, I hope not. I truly do wish she lives a happy far,far away from greg and kai. And whoever she loves in the future treats her right. She deserves it

[@arbetor12]

I'm sorry what?! That's pretty fucked

[@midnight4685]

The reason the love interest is called Abigail is because that was a real crush he had in school, it wasn't based on his daughter. But honestly I'd say it's weirder to name your infant daughter the name of a crush you had in high school (who you then wrote a creepy fanfic about where they were an abused character)

[@emilybarclay8831]

His daughter’s name is Cloey but I think her middle name is abbigale which is horrific given stones to abbigale was published in 2015 and his daughter was born in 2016 meaning he gave his daughter the same name (same misspelling and all) of a character he wrote his self insert having graphic sex with multiple times

[@andrewnovak1390]

This guy is the personification of the reason why fathers are overprotective of their daughters

[@DannyConeHeadOnceLer]

TRUE !

[@woodlefoof2]

I think part of it is also that to a certain extent a lot of men are like him. Not in an “all men are pigs” kind of sense but more of a “three faces of the self” kind of sense

[@di4run589]

Yeah he's a slimy creep

[@energy7425]

@@woodlefoof2 tbh I think thats just people

[@guacamollie2460]

@@energy7425 men* more than women.

[@crashschwarzen4642]

can they just arrest onision already, nobody is going to miss him

[@JODRecaps]

hi crash. btw super bowl 2020 is boring

[@cfiber_inc]

Hi

[@kris-p-4365]

but then people can't farm drama videos out of him

[@duderino4279]

JODisHere first I saw you in Elvis vids, spamming the same reply. Now you are here doing the same thing here. WTF

[@funkyphill4861]

@@kris-p-4365 Bringing light to a terrible person's crimes isn't "farming drama videos" This man is dangerous, and as many people as possible need to know.

[@Vyansya]

Some teenager would rant on twitter how over-protectove their mom is. But if Shiloh's mom didnt hide her passport, who could imagine what would happen. Props to moms and their spidey instinct.

[@jenniferclark9842]

Vyansya Her father (May God rest his soul) also threatened to send the Canadian mafia (yes, they’re a thing) after him (Shiloh was royally pissed about that, didn’t speak to him for a while after that). I wouldn’t be shocked if Onionhead was still on their hit list.

[@jenniferclark9842]

Death Omen en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rizzuto_crime_family

[@Tricksterr_]

I see your point but this could damage someone from an abusive household

[@Ruosteinenknight]

@@jenniferclark9842 Specifically Shiloh said that her dad told Greg that "Either you disappear or I will MAKE you disappear." Her dad was about to get some of his buddies together and offer Greg a ride in a trunk.

[@holden_7597]

RustyKn1ght I don’t think anyone would mind if he took that ride.

[@WhichDoctor1]

Whenever someone mentions a more than passing knowledge of the local age of consent (who isn't a cop or lawyer) that's a pretty big red flag.

[@darkdemonqueen]

Elion heh heh exactly

[@lillexus5589]

Not really

[@carbonatedpiss8452]

Not really

[@ginthesketcher8738]

Mhh... I think some may know a bit more about it, becouse their parents are trying to keep them safe.

[@michealpersicko9531]

@@carbonatedpiss8452 I mean if you need to know the ins and outs of it for relationships ya fucked up.

[@joshwoofter4789]

Greg: "She has a right to her private life" Also Greg: "Yeah hey guys, welcome back to our 67th video on the private life of my ex. Oh no, not that ex, we'll talk about her next week. No the other one. Yeeeeeah that one."

[@Jebus678]

Its really chilling to refer to kai as *"onisions succesful project"* But its chilling because its...Correct. What a horror movie scenario this is.

[@eldritchbeer]

I would probably break down if my daughter would be like that but would have to cut all tie with her and take all my children from them

[@Philemaphobia]

I don’t think so, I believe ‚Kai‘ is the one Manipulation Laney was able to implement. It gave her a way out of the forced ménage a trois by finally becoming ‚gay‘ she is desperate to gain some form of control over herself. Have you realized how Groomision himself started to say Laney again? Ever since Kai is gay, not bi anymore, he hates it! This bright girl might try the grey stone method on how to get rid of a narc in a safe way (by making him drop you out of boredom, you become a grey rock, something that they just overlook and thus have no more interest to project their drama on) she might have looked for a safe way out for years now. But wouldn’t you be scared as well? Look what happens when an Onion-RS ends. And she was the first one with children involved. She never once worked in her profession, has at least one special needs child (currently still recovering I guess) and we don’t know how low Onion keeps her self esteem in general. If this was Onions project working he would be much calmer, no, this is another project failing and falling apart.

[@Ghost-bs7oq]

Philemaphobia I never thought of it that way, you may actually have a point. Let’s hope if that’s true that this case can help free her from Onions grip. I’d rather not someone suffer that wau

[@denamullen340]

Y P Yeah I honestly hope she leaves and focuses on herself and her kids, then finds what real love is before she wastes her life away with him..

[@JODRecaps]

hello Jebus. btw joe

[@krln_9615]

Also Shiloh is flourishing as an artist by the name of Lyldoll, Chris Hansen even attended her show!

[@maddygreenb]

Wait what when?

[@geewizlana]

When?

[@Introvertsan]

That's wonderful

[@rbguerreiro2466]

Chris hansen is the man we all needed

[@krln_9615]

@@maddygreenb check her recent insta story

[@kyrafaith2650]

Okay so I’ve never seen the “Shiloh forgot me video” because I found the whole premise of the video distributing but her sobbing saying please don’t hurt me raises 5000 red flags for me like wtf that was the scariest thing I think I’ve seen from this man

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

It really makes me think she remembered SOMETHING about him to give her that fear

[@prodn0body]

@@jazwhoaskedforthis it was for sure a subconscious memory of past abuse. It's absolutely mortifying, and the fact that he's still around and could do this still is even crazier.

[@TylerPlayGame]

A quick reminder to everyone that: -All of Greg's victims were underage when he first started talking to them -Shiloh had the seizure and subsequent amnesia due to a severe trauma response - Greg has been treating everyone in his life like this since he was a teenager, to the point where his own family can't stand him. -there's a docu on discovery plus that goes over all of this, including how much he mentally destroyed Shiloh with the videos posted during that time. - A majority of what happened after he met and married Kai, including everything with Sara, was after they became parents.

[@aporue5893]

because children are impressionable and obviously he knows this.disgusting.

[@christie8493]

Breaking people down and building them back up/“fixing” them is exactly what cult leaders do.

[@Yucko000]

*Army of the USA wants to know your location*

[@christie8493]

Not so hard, Plague-kun exactly

[@lilacKurage]

In fact, Onision tried to make his own cult

[@kleitoes]

I was thinking of a cult the entire time especially the way he wanted to control younger people

[@JODRecaps]

hello steven. btw super bowl 2020 is boring

[@floralrune]

onision doesn’t even have a dark side. the dark side is just all the sides. he *is* the dark side

[@TooMuchSascha]

A good point but this also sounds like something he would write about himself

[@almostded2818]

But like a really wimpy and weak dark side where no one wants to be. I bet he doesn't even have a lightsaber

[@med_jelly]

even the dark side doesn't want him. At least palpatine had class

[@thebookwitch895]

The dark side, but without cookies

[@dabbingperson9236]

panem *THE EMPIRE WOULD LIKE TO KNOW YOUR LOCATION*

[@CitrusCommando]

Destroying Environment and abuses animals: Onision approves Smoking weed: Nani?!

[@sillymari01]

“i can excuse animal abuse and deforestation but i draw the line at smoking weed” -onion man

[@DannyConeHeadOnceLer]

Onision is SUCH a GODDAMN weirdo

[@WillieManga]

That's why I coined the term "Don Onision." He can commit crimes, but if others commit crimes, he will blackmail the supposed criminals, demand his crime family to harass them, and try to have them branded and locked and shamed. Yeah, I'm gonna go with the pot smoker because the individual in question was from a state where she got marijuana to treat her anxiety.

[@jackhurds6157]

I had a friend in college who got roped in by Onision. When he found out she used drugs for a chronic injury, he was ruthlessly cruel. Just an absolute dick to someone with a chronic injury who chose to treat it in a responsible manner

[@tardvandecluntproductions1278]

He doesn't care about weed, he cared about framing her with "illegal drugs". He thinks its fine after it became legal. His obsession with "legality" goes deep

[@oliviamarr6476]

"You cheated on my wife." She "cheated" on them... with you, right? You cheated on your wife.

[@scottpeltier3977]

They cheated on their lover

[@aporue5893]

nothing can ever be his fault...delusional narcissism.

[@petersansgaming8783]

I love how apparently it is the law of nature that every screenshot of any private chat convos are made while the phone was on low battery.

[@lolrude4855]

Yeah, it’s kinda weird but pretty much every private chat screenshot I’ve seen the battery is 20% or lower

[@comedypolicehandsup5141]

Either its critically low, or on the funny haha shr*x number, 69.

[@lillith77]

'Omg! I must screenshot before the phone dies!!!'

[@davidkpomalo]

You gotta be at the edge always...

[@michellereionodera]

That is kind of interesting

[@alexxander966]

“Suicide is selfish” “I’m gonna kill myself if you don’t stop demanding alimony from me” ??? Okay I’m speechless

[@carter9643]

Basically admitting he is infallibly selfish and will do absolutely ANYTHING to try to get out of paying his alimony. Yay onision gets the crown for worst person of the year for 10 years in a row!

[@kristaygayle]

Yeah, his behavior is pretty consistent with the exact behaviors he calls despicable Like you can make a list of things he says he hates and line it up almost perfectly with a list of bullshit he's pulled

[@SMBeech]

That's how manipulators are. They don't have any real opinions or stances. They just say what they need to do to get what they want. They have no problem being hypocritical or changing sides if it's to their benefit.

[@empac8631]

Greg is full of these accidentally satirical hypocrisies

[@MrJimmyTide]

He admitted he was being manipulative in that instance. Doesn't make it okay, but he's not unaware of himself.

[@f5checker]

What kinda shocks me is how Onionboy "defends" his relationship to Kais father by saying its legal. Am i the only one creeped out by that. I could understand him defending it by saying that they love each other( but lets face it i doubt Greg loves anyone but Greg). Having to even state that a relationship is legal tells you everything you need to know about him...

[@dysmissme7343]

Yep It’s extremely yuck and a terrible argument bc legal doesn’t mean heathy

[@aporue5893]

because he's a creep.🙄

[@emmawaters8380]

I almost cried hearing the things Onision said to Shiloh when he cut her ear, and watching her face. *Holy shit.* That was a broken woman, glueing together the shattered pieces of herself so she could pretend that everything was okay. And then Onion just casually walks over and slaps it out of her hands.

[@niyah_uwu]

​@@zogwort1522 I hope you have more compassion in real life. You seem like a horrible human being.

[@niyah_uwu]

@Emma Waters I wasn't at that point in the video yet and didn't know wtf you were talking about but this was indeed SO HORRIBLE to watch. EDIT: I found the original and the cut ear wasn't real, just a joke, but the rest of the video was not scripted. Onision throws Candy corn at her and it's hitting her and she begs him to stop, while he laughs at her and mocks her for saying it hurts because he's throwing the stupid candy so hard

[@Pre-Nup]

I feel sorry for Onision's CHILDREN who had to live in an unstable house with not 1, but 2 unstable parents & random teenage girls coming and going. I hope they're okay...or as okay as they can be.

[@meowpower08]

They’re not. His 3 year old managed to crawl out of the second floor window and fall onto pavement. It’s a miracle they’re even alive not to mention being able to hear Greg screaming at them in the background of kais videos

[@Gazing-09]

@@meowpower08 Yeah but now, that kid is permanently brain damaged due to this unfortunate incident. Hope they will be given to better parents and that they will not be associated with their parents.

[@nathannemec393]

well those kids are in hell. my opinuon the worst form of punishment is enduring pain over a long piriod of time not a large sum quickly.

[@Luna.311]

Hearing onision verbally abuse his child in Kai's video made me so mad I honestly wish I could have the power to rescue them.

[@GoodNyew]

It’s sad that people like them are allowed to raise children unsupervised

[@DozaCraft]

Greg is such a sociopath he's most DEFINITELY watching this video right now Everyone say 'Hi Greg!'

[@Tuberuser187]

Wrong pathology, that would be a narcissist (which he also is, clearly) plus he is more of a Psychopath. People are just objects and toys to him, he deliberately goes out to use them. Sociopaths are less directed and purposeful, they just want to please themselves and fulfil their own needs and don't give thought for the distress or harm they cause but Psychopaths hurt and use people with intent.

[@theblueone6848]

Don't compare me to onision lmao. He's far worse than a sociopath

[@iamsad9107]

I'd say he's more of a psychopath but I see your point. Hello, Greg/James/Onision! Hello Kai, hope you're not crying while reading this comment!

[@FrancisR420]

You're going to get arrested Greg.

[@elaynedoe1099]

Can I substitute "hi" with "die"?

[@KB-pu8ff]

"I'm incredibly famous" me, who was a teen in 2010: Never heard of ya, buddy

[@WillieManga]

I only heard about him through WatchMojo. Great sign right there. I also only ever watched his content through people like Mikenactor, Repzion, TRO, and other reaction channels.

[@jeanmichellelaurent]

He was famous back in the early tens but thats his peak, in all fairness he still looks and acts like he’s still in the early 10s creepily enough

[@chickenstripper5746]

I was more into Shane Dawson’s sketch comedy anyways than Onion boy over here. I mean now I don’t watch him at all and I just watch maxmoefo and idubbs

[@bonesawbrother930]

I knew who he was because a girl I liked liked him. I wanted to like him because she did, but I always kind of just thought he was an asshole

[@jeanmichellelaurent]

@@chickenstripper5746 can’t go wrong with Ian and max

[@FullLifeConsequences]

I feel so bad for Shiloh. I've helped a friend escape an abusive living situation, and the sheer terror and desperation in Shiloh's voice in that "Shiloh forgot me" video is exactly what I heard in my friend's voice that day. She doesn't sound like she's confused and doesn't understand why this strange man is in her house, she sounds like she's legitimately terrified of Onision and has good reason to be. And then Onision goes and posts this, a video of his girlfriend having a mental breakdown as a result of his abuse, on the Internet for likes. I'm so happy she got away and seems to be doing okay now.

[@Repzion]

Sitting here with my coffee. Today is gonna be a good day. Thank you for such a quality video.

[@emmasdilemma1356]

Repzion SIR YES SIR 🤝🤝🤝

[@SamJamDance]

Repzion we love a supportive Repzion 🥰

[@jeanwickstrand4757]

May i lick ones sweaty toes?

[@a.m.m.o3230]

I just got done watching your video 😂

[@christinecannibal844]

Repzion ♥️♥️ we're watching at the same time! I'm halfway through!

[@morgan9637]

If you gotta keep stressing "our relationship is TOTALLY LEGAL" you got some problems my dude.

[@maxhines5744]

Ah yeah, you know fashodo

[@NinjaSox7]

"not 'til Lainey was 25" -Man in a legal relationship

[@left-2-write28]

Yeah, anytime you have to preface anything like "Well, it's not TECHNICALLY illegal" you might need to get your shit together...

[@The.Orange.Wizard]

@@left-2-write28 “If you have to use the word technically, you’re already screwing up.”

[@Endless.nightmare-dfi]

it’s the same thing when people have to say “it’s not technically incest” if you have to say that just step down, think about your life, get therapy and stop dating your family

[@NeoPreston]

Glad you replayed it cause that "ten years, till shes 25" went right past me

[@BeKazzled77]

"When you have as many enemies as Onision, any error can be fatal" - this line always comes back to me, because it's an error sociopaths and narcissists make and I always think, "How are they not in a constant state of anxiety and terror at the thought of just ONE of their enemies making moves against them at any unexpected moment?" I think for normal people, we feel dismayed or disappointed or angry when we've made an enemy. We even may be fearful if the enemy is particularly hateful. I'm conflict-averse and not an arsehole, so I'm not making enemies with any frequency. But for sociopaths, narcissists and psychopaths... it's like they don't care about their (always-growing) enemies list and what this might mean for their own livelihood. If I had multiple people who felt I was their enemy, I think I'd go out of my mind worrying about when, where and how that final blow would come about. But they don't care, and generally that's a good thing... because when I think of my most recent brush with someone with narcissistic personality disorder, I know it's just a matter of time before they go to jail because of their constant need to cheat people, steal from people, degrade people and threaten people and then dismiss it from memory, oblivious to the fact that the people they hurt haven't forgotten.

[@naz4488]

I think they think they're invincible

[@artusdoomer5291]

They're probably just so convinced of their own intelect, that no one can actually represent a threat against them

[@shannonfick788]

You’re exactly right! I think they also see their enemies as a source of power. The more they rack up, the more they get to feel like the “clever villain” with all the “haters”, you know? But eventually they do trip up and make enemies with the wrong people. And suddenly they’re not so invincible after all

[@fkdjdjcmckdjdjf3728]

but oni likes the confrontation. i enjoys fighting people, he enjoys power. he doesn't feel shame. he probably does feel hella anxious, which is 1- why he's so volatile, 2- why he NEEDS more power the more time passes by; control is a coping mechanism for anxiety. he is hateful, so seeing other people makes him think that they're hateful. sociopaths might think the game is fun.

[@Azuhr-f4c]

Because they have such an abnormal high self esteem, they cant imagine someone is capable of doing so

[@catc2938]

Why does Onision wear Nirvana shirts when Nirvana, specifically Kurt Cobain, hated people who disrespect and abuse women?

[@maximusregaurd1134]

Cat C I mean they are popular shirts there usually isn’t a big reason to why people get a shirt other than it’s popular or looks nice

[@extahsee]

Cat: cognitive dissonance is one hell of a drug.

[@myon9431]

It always pisses me off when I see him wear them

[@RoguSpanish]

I guess people like Onision are exactly who Kurt was thinking about when he wrote In Bloom.

[@puzzledotgamer5461]

Onision makes shit up as he goes along so if you brought it up with him he'd say kurt cobain killed himself cause he wanted to stop himself beating his wife or some shit and a shotgun in the mouth was the best option. say what I think as cruel to say about kurt but you know fine well onision would sully him with that.

[@howdyfolks5764]

“Suicide is selfish” Ok, groomer

[@meowpower08]

Says the guy who threatened to kill him self if he kept having to pay alimony. Just Greg being Greg

[@SaKura-il8op]

I mean suicide is kinda selfish, but the people who do it probably have a mental illness and are not in the right state of mind. I think we should rather help them and not shame them.

[@Gazing-09]

@@SaKura-il8op This guy was all "it's your fault you're having a mental illness, it's your fault if you've been raped." then flips up to "you're making fun of someone who has a mental disability & Sarah actually raped us"

[@TealAstronaut]

👏👏👏

[@xboxboys03]

Turquoise Cheetah Ok, Groomer

[@seddiwy]

Geez, I honestly had to take some breaks with this one... that level of abuse and manipulation was genuinely distressing even from a third party standpoint.

[@theclownsystem9429]

As an abuse victim with some of the same tactics used on me, I had to take several breathers myself. The fact that people like him exist just horrifies me.

[@sugabby964]

When I was an avid Onision fan, I remember him doing the Sociopath test and, I'm pretty sure it said he was a sociopath. Everyone laughed it off at the time.... look at where we are now.

[@Sam-uj9kn]

that moment when he tweets about his daddy kink while his daughter is getting an MRI to check the extent of the damage from falling out of a 2 story window 🤪🤪

[@zoey819]

honestly i get physically ill

[@MrPeanut624]

The scary thing is that his tweets may have been indicative of what was happening to cause her to fall.

[@Murmarine]

@@MrPeanut624 oh... _oh no_

[@squishyhero]

@@MrPeanut624 Oh my god I didnt think this could get darker..

[@MrPeanut624]

@@squishyhero I hope it isn't. I just made a connection between details. I really *really* hope I'm wrong. It explains why onion immediately felt guilty and decided to film, he thought about reputation before his kid.

[@annabellknajder7518]

God i feel so bad for Kai's dad tho. Imagine some creepy greasy adult taking away your 15-17 yo CHILD and now you only get to see them like twice a year or so (yes he doesn't allow Kai to see his family for more than a few times a year) because that predator convinced them that YOU are the abusive person only because he didn't like what you had to say about the very concerning age gap.

[@evatov7913]

Also as someone who has a sister in a similar situation (but no age gape) seeing that person make your child become an asshole and just a terrible person hurts honestly I saw my mom go through it and I feel so bad for the dad

[@anemone7005]

@Brittany it's a pattern... Abuse victims tend to become abusers.

[@rhodopisdenile8977]

胖胖Panda Z yeah I mean even onion boy himself was a victim of an abusive father at one point.

[@anemone7005]

@LUCY ELI ZABETH the trouble surrounds age of consent. In the US, age of consent is 18. That means that if you have one partner over, and one partner under the age of 18, it is legally statutory rape. The idea is that someone under the age of 18 is not mature enough to make the decision to be in a sexual relationship with someone. Another problem is the manipulation and use of "power" (whether real or perceived) to "groom" an individual into agreeing to be in a sexual relationship. It could be the idea that adults are supposed to be trustworthy and mature. When you're 24 years old, you shouldn't be going after girls aged 15.

[@cookieshousecannabisco6963]

shorter the sawed off, the louder the thunder sound. :)

[@shannonfick788]

I actually hate looking into his eyes. There’s no light and it looks like no one is home. The only other person I’ve seen that in is Chris Watts, the man who murdered his pregnant wife and two toddler girls and then lied about it to everyone. I honestly believe any kind of compassion or soul Greg ever had is gone. He needs to be put away forever.

[@TheodoreCLee]

Contracts are common in BDSM relationships, as a way to communicate lifestyle wants, needs, fetishes, etc. They are not inherently creepy or unhealthy. But in Greg's case, he is nowhere near intelligent or mature enough to ever practice safe, sane, and consensual kink

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

His partners would also have to be legal and have the option to negotiate and have their limits respected, which isn't a thing for onion I bet

[@lua6586]

Yes they are fucking creepy. Stop defending this degenerate abusive shit under the guise of “kink”. Disgusting.

[@jazwhoaskedforthis]

@@lua6586 Within a loving, respectful adult relationship contracts can be a fun aspect of a power dynamic or role play. They are also useful in the sense that a submissive and dominant can lay out EXACTLY what is consented to and exactly what the boundaries and limits are, and have them expressed upfront. Everyone also knows they aren’t legally binding. How is that creepy? How is it in any way comparable to Greg trying to trick teenagers into thinking his self-serving little contracts and NDAs printed off of google are legitimately binding? Contracts are just an agreed upon result of negotiating, which is CRUCIAL for safe and informed kink to take place even if you don’t bother with a paper contract. You could argue having a hard limit you only agree on verbally is just a verbal contract, and most people make unspoken contracts to behave certain ways when They start dating. Contracts aren’t meant to be exploitative, just jerks like Greg make them so. Same way bdsm isn’t meant to be abusive, but jerks like Greg make it so.

[@TheodoreCLee]

@@lua6586 If you think having kinks is inherently abusive, I'm guessing you have done little to no research, and you definitely aren't a mental health professional or sexual educator of any kind. So I'm not exactly swayed

[@TheCaptainjuicy]

@@lua6586 How are setting proper boundaries and needs within respecting adults creepy or anywhere near the same level as to the shit that onision was doing?

[@calamitynatalie8590]

I really hate that this footage of Shiloh is still so available.

[@JODRecaps]

hello cala. btw super bowl 2020 is boring

[@Thelango99]

It's a double edged sword. If that video has been taken down, he could shrug his actions off much easier, however if it is available ( like it is now) then the footage can hurt her psychologically.

[@hopstepjumpsplat]

On the one hand, I believe it's good that this footage can potentially reach Gurg's dwindling fanbase and open some eyes. On the other hand, it makes my guts shrivel up each time anyone uses it in videos. 🤮

[@calamitynatalie8590]

Yeah I totally understand that, and in this context it is used for the correct reason but...aw you guys know what I mean...

[@okaywhynot4728]

Thelango99 She’s already publicly discussed the video on Twitter, if I remember correctly.

[@SophieArabella]

I will never be able to wrap my head around the fact that Greg is a dad. Jesus.

[@southerngirl4076]

And one of his kids is a daughter.

[@stupidchild3729]

And one fell out of a window

[@artwithlaur]

There's a video kai made where it sounds like he was yelling at his children and they were crying for their mom while kai was just talking louder over it.. it was horrible.

[@skyshale]

@@artwithlaur god. do you have the link to that video?

[@artwithlaur]

@@skyshale kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y5zSnqdnrZyHr7M I think that's it but not entirely sure as I haven't seen it in a while

[@booklover466]

Him saying “our relationship is TOTALLY legal” is exactly the problem! That shouldn’t even be part of the conversation when you’re a man in his 30’s.

[@aporue5893]

even if it ''technically''was he's still clearly been abusive to these women and girls.it's disgusting.

[@ImmortalHDizzle]

I wish Kai was blamed as much with the mistreatment of the girls as Greg is

[@Me-mb1ex]

It’s hilarious how he always spins it as “I ended that relationship.” but every.single.girl has receipts of him BEGGING for a LONG time to get back with him once his following relationship goes belly up. Literally every single girl.

[@squishyhero]

Fucking seriously! I dont think he has ever once spoke the truth about any of the controversies he was in.

[@ph-vf5hx]

His is PAINFULYY basic. Like a confused chidd making it up as he goes.

[@meowpower08]

That’s the worst thing about Greg is he thinks he’s so smart and clever but he goes after vulnerable minors for a reason. Most people see right through him

[@alayna2963]

Can we talk about how youtube hasn’t done anything about this whole situation, they can’t let creators say the word “predator” but will allow actual predators on their platform

[@Officerdown76]

alayna I mean they are idiots that can’t figure out how to run this website what makes you think they pay attention to anything.

[@EatinPaste]

To be fair if they took his channel and videos down a lot of evidence goes down too. He's also a giant fucking idiot can keeps digging himself a very deep hole.

[@wilmagregg3131]

youtube dont care unless you have poltics they dislike they kept austine jones channel and videos up till just after the day he was sentenced as guilty as courseing 14 year olds to send him explict videos by abusing his power his tactics were nearly the same as onision

[@TheDancingRoach]

i am sure they would instantly take action if it happened to their children..

[@wilmagregg3131]

@@TheDancingRoach nope didnt do anything when austin jones did it they refused to do a thing till the day after he was judged guilty in court

[@prxducerhxktxk]

I remember that one of his closest friends explained I think on a podcast the horrible cycle that he had with the girls. He would find a fan girl who had a bad home life and pretend like he cared about her, He would date a girl for a while, use her in videos and on Instagram, behind the scenes manipulate her and make her do whatever he wanted and then ditch her for whatever reason (they wouldn’t go with a kink or not do his bidding or something else), make a few videos about how toxic the other person is, then the girl would come out with a video calling him out on his shit and proving herself, and then he would take the typical KZbinr saying, in saying that he would focus on his mental health and become a better person, and then the cycle would continue by having another teenage girl respond to one of his tweets and having everything happen again.

[@rosalierowan]

“Let’s hope for better things in 2020” oh boy we were all in for a ride...

[@jackhazardous4008]

I think one of the grosser aspects of onision is he has a pregnancy/breeding fetish, but he doesn't give a shit about the children that result from that. He doesn't talk to his baby daughter because "why would I talk to someone who can't talk back"

[@bubblesoffunn]

remember the leaked footage of Greg yelled at his child

[@clayxros576]

Frankly having that fetish but caring not about what results from it makes me, for the first time, wish someone went to hell. And I don't even believe hell exists.

[@selectidiot]

that's a common part of that fetish, they want to breed but they don't want the child. I watched a doc on it once, its fucking creepy, men with it normally move on to the next woman and women with it just keep giving the kids up for adoption.

[@Azuhr-f4c]

He‘s a Narcist. On the one hand he thinks he is superior (the God Fetish) and so he Must spread bis Genes. On the other hand he sees noch Reason to invest time in something, that will not benefit ihm immediatly.

[@woodlefoof2]

@@selectidiot women with a breeding fetish are so odd I suppose there might be something more primal at work though, but given the investment a woman has to put into it I find it so strange they would have it

[@fruitjuiceshibe]

His defensiveness when talking about dating significantly younger people just makes it more questionable

[@FeeshCTRL]

@Timmy Carl That's fuck up

[@goosevichiwaterdrinkerbagu7525]

Honestly it is really questionable however if he went with the silence route it'd be worse off. If he didn't I feel bad for the guy but he fucking did so he deserves this shit.

[@Sharklops]

the Onion doth protest too much, methinks

[@bridmcgrath3606]

Its so fucked up. I hope he rots in jail.

[@JODRecaps]

hello fruit. btw super bowl 2020 is boring

[@diesel1463]

I was OBSESSED with onision when I was a young teen. He shaped my view of myself and the world around me. Looking back on it, he really influenced who I wanted to date. That ended with me dating a psychopath who belongs in jail and gave me PTSD. When I look back on my love and admiration for Greg, I genuinely feel sick. His influence on young teens through his videos alone was insane. I’m so glad I stopped watching him when i did.

[@jackrobinson9403]

Yeah he seems cool till you grow up..

[@prettypennyschannel]

Damn. I'm sorry for you. I was lucky. I was in my forties, caring for dying parents, no internet time. I only found out about him through a Chantel reaction video.

[@dysmissme7343]

I ended up with a manipulative narcissist and I’m still coming to terms with my ptsd…

[@indicafairy]

we need a support group for people who looked to greg when they were young... like holy fuck did i worship this piece of shit, so much of my issues i feel can be traced starting by watching his videos..

[@wavyboy2193]

the "Bishop Brennan Effect" is known as Gaslighting, in which the abuser challenges the victims point of view to an extent that the victim doesn't trust their own mind, doesn't realize they're being abused, and/or automatically defends the abuser to avoid the abuser punishing them or looking bad, regardless of the truth. It's a technique often used in emotionally abusive relationships in order for the abuser to maintain control.

[@theantisocialelite3731]

I think he was trying to distinguish that from gaslighting. I was thinking the same thing, but he mentions gaslighting in the same segment.

[@degeneratemilkhater5696]

I'm very late but I think it the Bishop Brennan effect) refers to how, when a victim of gaslighting has been given the time and space necessary, they can realise that they were being gaslit

[@aporue5893]

he is a liar through and through.don't trust anything he's ever said.

[@violatyrant]

19:12 “come back in ten years when [kai] is.... 25” W H A T

[@StarGazerTom1991]

Yup. Onision let it slip that she was atleast 15 when they were talking/met, etc etc.

[@JODRecaps]

hi charlie. btw super bowl 2020 is boring

[@smb.]

StarGazerTom1991 he been lettin a lot slip lately. All those videos he made are literally doing the opposite of what he wants lol. He’s basically giving the fbi & chris more to work with

[@Wistful77]

Is she 25 yet?

[@a.m.m.o3230]

JODisHere you god, you’ve commented random things before. And you’re doing it again. GOOD LUCK TO YOU GAMER

[@DJWarwing]

I can't believe the internet came together to reawaken the legendary Chris Hansen to fight him. What an epic plot twist

[@scottski02]

Onision: *Grooms teenagers* Chris Hansen: I'm about to end this man's whole career.

[@ZakhariusSilpheed]

@@Comical1984 Chris hansen: plays Giorno's theme with said piano.

[@christiansmith4159]

This is my favorite comment. LONGLIVEHANSON

[@graciedynes9922]

Chris Hanson has actually been in the platform for a while now trying to get famous again after insurance fraud. An antihero, he has drama as well that’s pretty entertaining

[@DJWarwing]

Onision: "You cannot stop me." Thor: "I know. But he can." Chris Hansen: "Hello, Greg... _why don't you take a seat?"_

[@mea2429]

19:10 the slowed down repeat was actually very impactful for me because im super bad at math so how old that makes her didnt click until like the 3rd repeat

[@raisinbran1421]

Onision is the type of person who’s afraid of being alone, someone who can’t “survive” without someone in his life, but when he falls out of love with one girl or can’t be with them he just hits up another chick to satisfy his lusts

[@KillerBlaze]

“How much power does this father think he has over his underaged daughter!?”

[@MrJimmyTide]

I wonder if he meant it more to the reference of the number 25. Technically the father would only have say until she was 18, so to extend it another 7 years would be overstepping his bounds. I wonder if that's what he meant and people are just jumping all over it because of all the other creepy shit he's done.

[@ville666sora]

Apparently he didn't have enough since Kai still ended up marrying Greg.

[@clariecec9101]

Until she's 18 not 25. That's ridiculous.

[@clariecec9101]

@Rio Smith Your daughter is no more special and you also don't have control after 18. Good thing because you're really unstable.

[@tatianaturner2782]

@@clariecec9101 Devil's advocate here. I think it depends heavily on the situations. If your adult child was engaging in activities that would eventually endanger the adult child then a parent would love to have some control although if it's something like the parent is twisting the adult child's arm into dumping that loser partner you gotta let the adult child learn. Yes parenting never ends and the child will always be seen as a child in the eyes of the parent. Some parents don't do enough some do too much everything is unfortunately situational and there's no rules written in stone except the law but even then those are still subject to situational occurrences.

[@gothgoddessrhia]

He's using trauma bonding in his relationships. That's why he targets people with a difficult home life or someone dealing with personal trauma.

[@sabsab878]

Thank you for that comment. I didn’t know about that phenomenon

[@Kittsim]

Yep. His books really show that. Like when he has a girls brother die in a school shooting so his self insert can pork her. Lovely guy.

[@blacktoothfox677]

Oh absolutely. Textbook.

[@victoriashevlin8587]

Such a sleezy fucking move...

[@investmentcollections2085]

I see guys like this and feel bad my daughter has to learn about people like that

[@duckie7576]

that clip of shiloh talking about how onision cut of her ear was harrowing. She looked so genuinely distraught and hopeless.

[@laurenqueenofwolvesnicole]

He cut off her fucking ear??? Are you serious??

[@niyah_uwu]

Actually he didn't. The original full clip can be found on Reddit, it's like 1.5 mins long. The cut ear was a joke, the blood was fake, but his reaction was obviously not scripted. He then starts throwing candy corn at her, pretty hard, wanting her to open her mouth so he can throw some inside her mouth. She doesn't want to and some hit her. She says that it hurts and he mocks her for it. It's really heartbreaking to watch.

[@oodie6284]

Greg may hate weed, but maybe if he smoked a little he’d chill.

[@crustpunkjesuschrist]

EXACTLY!! He doesn’t mind tax evasion and wildlife destruction but weed is where he loses it?

[@TheDigworks]

"i had a 9 year age gap with lainey" had? it got smaller did it?

[@chromaslighthouse8211]

Pandora & Friends right, like wtf does he think he’s getting at?

[@Matthew-Anthony]

I think what he meant was when he was with her they were 9 years apart in age. They still are the same age apart, but they are not together.

[@hoboheart3728]

Thats how age works obviously

[@ariamentio]

Apparently Onision was born on February 29th.

[@TheDigworks]

​@@ariamentio lol coz that would make it less creepy

[@morganmariex]

Knowing that a detective is currently putting together a case to present to the district attorney, along with the FBI also working with the police to charge Greg, really makes me giddy.

[@TooMuchSascha]

On top of that the state is coming down on him for his destruction of the protected wetlands behind his house. The FBI *and* the EPA are coming for his ass

[@SavvyMuhon]

@@besophia9137 He probably didn't, but Kai definitely did. I guess the FBI investigators think there is enough evidence against him

[@morganmariex]

@@besophia9137 I can't remember what the criminal terms are for it (you'd have to check Chris Hansen's previous streams where he mentions it). But they can charge him with possessing or distributing sexually explicit pictures of or to a minor, sexual enticement of minors, grooming of a minor with sexual intentions, etc.

[@JODRecaps]

hello marie. btw joe

[@morganmariex]

@@JODRecaps Huh?

[@lilithstar21]

Your 5 stages can be narrowed to 3 Idealization Devaluation Discard

[@KidKaizer]

The "not till she was 25" thing was a Freudian slip for sure.

[@croma2068]

Freud. His name was Sigmund Freud.

[@KidKaizer]

@@croma2068 sorry for having dyslexia, Its still better than being the guy who has to call out any misspellings. You must be so basic for correcting people to feed you're ego. I genuinely feel bad for you, or should I say I jenuinly fell bed four yui? ;)

[@whatamidoing.6854]

It's not like they knew you were Dyslexic dude.

[@aporue5893]

yikes.

[@bloodyneptune]

God, his face makes me uncomfortable. Its like an Uncanny Valley effect

[@med_jelly]

probably because of all the make up he cakes on

[@cmm3699]

The Artistic Cupcake plus the filters he puts on in the videos too.

[@marciturani6416]

@@med_jelly and that fucking camera filter

[@bloodyneptune]

@@med_jelly Its gotta be some kinda pancake makeup, because god knows I cake on makeup, but I dont think I look like Im going to achieve sentience and start Judgement Day

[@KrankyKaiju]

I think it’s the fact that he filters the HELL out of his vids to hide the acne and acne scars that pepper his face like shotgun pepper shot....and his dead, emotionless eyes...

[@bluescorpion5954]

"Come back in 10 years" He has no idea how generous that is. For a father to offer his reconsideration of a relationship with with his 15 year old daughter once she is at a more appropriate age is incredibly generous. Most fathers would contact the police and threaten physical violence against the grown man interested in his young teen daughter. Incidentally, the brain doesn't stop developing until mid 20s to early 30s. So waiting to start a serious relationship until the age of 25 is actually not a bad idea. He claims she is 16 which is legal, but only with parental approval. He didn't have parental approval, case closed.

[@juicysatsumabeauty]

Blue Scorpion It is mid twenties latest, not early thirties.

[@bluescorpion5954]

@@juicysatsumabeauty You're probably right. I heard it as mid 20s to mid 30s on a podcast but the internet says "mid 20s" or "by 25". My mistake. I should have double checked before posting.

[@DeaDiabola]

Pretty sure that was just Dad for "fuck off"

[@jenniferclark9842]

I think his logic was that in ten years time he’d forget about her and that would be that. But this is KZbin’s “psycho brat” we’re talking about.

[@emmettdonkeydoodle6230]

Juicy Satsuma Actually, we don’t know the true time the brain stops developing, but the more research it comes out the older it seems to get. Back around 5 or 6 years ago, the brain was believed to have stopped its development in the mid-twenties. Current research points to early to mid-thirties.

[@paxtheskeleton6636]

54:47 this is honestly much more disgusting then it sounds, he turned Kai into someone exactly like him, a groomer and predator, and here he is, defending the damage he has done…y’all have no idea how angry I am at this clip. Kai became a predator because of Onision and Onision is defending his work..only saying those things because Kai is like him…I genuinely hope that reality will hurt him physically and mentally.

[@leandradozier968]

It’s giving Jeffrey Epstein/Ghislane Maxwell…..

[@mojojojo3411]

HE HAS CHILDREN????? NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@yourfayevorite1189]

i feel like onision fan girls are the same chicks who obsess over ted bundy & columbine

[@TooMuchSascha]

This is most likely the case

[@kylehegedus5498]

yourfayevorite Or Charles Manson

[@tehhymnofvalefor]

yourfayevorite both onion and bundy represented themselves in court. it’s not that far off

[@calebc5057]

Sasgalula but at least Ted Bundy studied law so he somewhat knew what he was talking about unlike onion boi

[@KuntChitface]

I think to some degree these girls are partially responsible. I also think that James Jackson isn't as smart as we might imagine him to be, he really does seem like he has the intellect of a teenager (more effeminately leaning per say) and that as manipulative as he has been shown to be, not much of his public videos strikes me as personally out of the ordinary within certain situations. One one hand other than age of the victims, you see that they have very similar proclivities and tastes, teens will be teens and there is a common ground these individuals have. On another hand, you see that Greg to a point is aware that these things are going on-how intentional, we will may see later. A really good point that represents this situation is that we can look at Hollywood child actors and the pedophilia that surrounds that. Parents allowing their kids to go to acting instituions or getting 'hired' in a sense for a role. One similar culture reference I have is from the Netflix show 'You' and the dynamics of the plot between Ellie Alves and a movie star/producer 'Henderson'. I really can't wait to see this all go to trial.

[@angryartist3170]

Ya know. As a tween I watched a lot of his videos and started to believe what he was saying. I think that's why I harshly judge myself as well because of his body shaming videos. And I started to judge other's as well. To the same unrealistic standards I gave myself. It's crazy thinking back to how toxic my mindset was when I was younger. Terrifying even.

[@biggochungboi9346]

yeah, onision was the start of my ed. its horrifying isnt it

[@angryartist3170]

@@biggochungboi9346 very much so

[@andremation]

TRO: "Let's hope for better things in 2020" oh boy are you in for a GOOD one

[@victoriashevlin8587]

Isn't over yet. 1 day left.

[@piscesmoon6333]

i feel like him saying “how much power does this guy think he have?” regarding kais dad is a very telling look into this asshat’s thought process.

[@nemesisslr]

@@Officerdown76 Apparently he put his service pistol to his head. He was also just security force. No one takes them seriously in the military.

[@jacclyyynnn]

it honestly scared the shit out of me. he obviously knows her dad has "power" over her (a CHILD) so Greg insinuating that he has so much more power that her dad's is negligible is terrifying. and, unfortunately, he was right.

[@saroojanvasanthakumar1510]

It is maybe something he himself thinks about when manipulating someone in a relationship "how much power do i hold over this person and how can I control them even more"

[@drexyspivey]

Damn good point. It’s like ownership.

[@JODRecaps]

hello renee. btw super bowl 2020 is boring

[@ciyannesmith]

Soooooo, am I the only one that wishes Kai's dad could be interviewed or reached out to about what actually happened with onion boy and his child.

[@EagleBoxx]

He won't. At this point Kai is too much involved to be defended. I have heard he is a lawyer too... So he won't say a word.

[@luclin92]

@Walkin' Tall they might be the reason the feds have gotten involved, and they are being careful, because they fear what he might do if he finds out what they have done. Like i would not put it behind him to use the kids as a cover agains them

[@evatov7913]

@Walkin' Tall they are probably scared to hurt Kai or get him in trouble

[@Ruosteinenknight]

@@EagleBoxx At least not unless he's subpoenaed in a possible trial. Technically he can still refuse not to say anything, but then he will be held in contempt of court. Only spouses can refuse to testify against each other, without consequences not family members.

[@Gazing-09]

@@EagleBoxx... That sucks. But the way I see it, Kai's gonna get away with it Scott free.

[@TheBizzle1984]

Calling someone who smokes pot a "bad illegal druggie" seems way more suspicious, to me, than actually smoking weed does. Anyone who freaks out that much about weed is DEFINITELY hiding something way worse. It's textbook deflection.

[@chasityboatman4928]

Here because D'Angelo Wallace recommended these videos. This was fantastically done.

[@betaraytasty5109]

People say that he uses cult-like tactics. No. Stop saying that. *These ARE cult tactics.* Pressuring someone into a contract that isn't legally notarized, making someone shave their head, attempting to get them to permanently brand themselves with a tattoo, distancing them from their family, humiliating them when they make him mad....these are all textbook cult tactics.

[@-anotherbrokenegg]

I think people are using the words "cult-like" because it was a failed attempt at a cult, ultimately. At least that's how I see it. It's important though that people understand the entire scope of what a cult is. For example I myself am a cult survivor, but the tactics used by my abusers were not the same tactics used by Onion on his victims. Just my two cents. But the whole "breaking someone down to put them back together yourself" is one thing all cults have in common.

[@betaraytasty5109]

You can use police interrogation tactics to get someone to 'fess up to something without being a police officer, and you can use cult tactics to get what you want in a relationship. I guess it's all semantics now, but I do see what you guys are saying.

[@Ruosteinenknight]

Onision did try to start his own religion called sicesca, which has been accurately described as basement sale scientology. It didn't take off, but it gave Onision a lot of practice with sales pitches and charms. He then created his online persona as a subject of worship, instead of a belief system.

[@olix1466]

"Shes 16, Im 31... this is creepy". Okay Greg.

[@Weirdiohw]

Jaden:x ok groomer

[@bubblesoffunn]

ok groomer

[@nursemelissajane]

He knew he was supposed to say "creepy" so he did but what he really meant was "exciting"-- "She's 16, I'm 31... This is exciting." I just threw up a little in my mouth. Good God he's a wretched piece of shit.

[@emmakinzian539]

"Let's hope for better things in 2020" Well that aged like milk.

[@howdyitsren]

I actually listened to Shiloh’s first album as a preteen/young teen and always wondered where she went. Finding out this is that same Shiloh now that I’m nearly 15 years older is buck wild.

[@jackhazardous4008]

"these women had mental breakdowns just to make me look bad. Real victims don't ever come forward" I wish Shiloh (?) let her dad take care of Greg.

[@totallynotanaccountonyoutube]

The Canadian Father is the scariest

[@myquest666420]

Talia Riddle especially if it’s the western Canada farm boys from Alberta.

[@ninjabunny101]

fucking christ he’s so delusional

[@autisticrabi5296]

@@totallynotanaccountonyoutube As someone with a Canadian father, this is fact.

[@michealpersicko9531]

@@autisticrabi5296 I have an Italian American dad from the South Bronx you don't know what fear scary is

[@andosan5995]

"You cheated on my wife" what a surreal statement

[@TheCatzFranzNeko]

Psst, hey, you hear that noise in the distance? That's Kai. He's sobbing uncontrollably.

[@ville666sora]

lol Greg has some balls to be telling someone else to get a tattoo that says "I'm a liar" when literally all he does is lie.

[@100alexiastar]

"He said come back in 10 years, when she's 25" Yeah FBI? Yeah, this one right here

[@SuigaRou]

Can we just take a moment to commend the editors of this video who had to work with and be exposed to images of the onions uncanny valley meth addict vampire face for hours on end? Truly working class heroes.

[@marzipancutter8144]

I can't imagine how that must have been. Looking at him for more than 3 seconds at a time already gives me the creeps.

[@arturfernandes101]

holy shit, thats so fucking true. It amazes me how his face shows absolutely zero emotion in every single clip in the video

[@ari_anon2228]

as a person with borderline personality disorder, the idea that people think onision has bpd is incredibly upsetting and definitely not true, at least from the behavior i’ve seen from him. he more likely has antisocial personality disorder

[@xXLilac_Stars666Xx]

as someone who SUSPECTS they have it that pissed me off. greg most definitely does not have BPD, he’s just a trashy controlling abuser.

[@prettypennyschannel]

That and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. He might also have Histrionic Personality Disorder. People can actually have more than one Personality Disorder.

[@ExActa]

Dear armchair therapists, ASPD and BPD are actually a fairly common combination so one does not really rule out the other.

[@prettypennyschannel]

@@xXLilac_Stars666Xx With NPD and crappy content.😊

[@beloved-child]

I have a bpd girlfriend. The similarities between bpd and narcissistic personality will make it often confused with each other, and bpds have narcissistic characteristics that are exactly the same, gaslighting, rewriting history, lack of empathy, lying, manipulation, constant guilt tripping, framing everything as her being the victim and never abusive while the actual victim being a horrible monster....which is just gaslighting but a severe aspect of it that truly will make you question reality because bpds often TRULY BELIEVE THEIR OWN BULLSHIT, which is very scary... Bpds also are more prone to fall into extreme insane violent rages where they scream at the top of their lungs that will get cops called on any neighborhood. I have a prepacked go bag I keep on my vehicle at all times and the instant I sense she's about to go off, I leave drive away and don't come back for at least a night. You can't even win an argument with bpd because the more you show how silly and wrong they are the more rage and violence you receive. The only reason my bpd gf hasnt hit me in over 2-3 years is because after the 1,745,848 time she got me...almost always for basically no reason or total made up bullshit......I started hitting back. It wasn't even intense I literally had PTSD from the abuse and snapped. One time I tried calling the police 3 times because she was blocking the door for me to leave and kept hitting me and slapping the phone out of my hand when I tried to call the cops. The 3rd time she slapped the phone out of my hand, was the very first time I've ever punched a woman in the face. She's also the first person I kicked out of a moving car. It was only going about 4-5 mph on a neighborhood empty road...but yeah....that's how horrible and traumatizing they are.....I cheat on her all the time and cheated twice when I didn't even want sex just to feel better about myself as a way to have so e kind of revenge...a d to justify the relationship for myself. I've cheated on this women more then all my previous gfs combined. No remorse no sympathy, get with a bpd or narcissist female and you'll understand why within a month of you can even last that long. I dont even like women much anymore outside sex and that isn't fully her fault....but she was the last straw.

[@jayswing101]

The Shiloh section is just. Whaaaat. I loved her as a kid, her music video for Operator played on Family channel all the time, and I even still have the CD I bought with birthday money that year. But we didn't have Internet until 2012 and I just thought sadly that Shiloh must've only made the one album and gone on with her life. I had no idea about all the onision stuff. Wtf wtf. I really hope she's gotten some help and support and love to heal from all of that and that she's doing well today

[@Flamingos4Evry1]

Shiloh and Regina's mums are the real MVPs of this story, honestly.

[@CR-gh5bp]

Their spider senses were on point.

[@Crypticmudkip]

I wonder what they think about him today after all that's going on

[@revorgz7512]

Torchicadee momma knows best

[@Grim_Sister]

I hope all parents learn from these two. Shiloh’s mom was very clever when she hid her passport. Regina’s mom was even smarter for not letting her kid get close to these two jackasses

[@nathannemec393]

kais dad as well.... he did try a little.

[@allstarme-no8qb]

talking ON CAMERA about kissing a 15 year old and being attracted to them and only not doing it because of the "law". Please god let this man enter the prison system...

[@willhowardlokoartyui]

Or, hear me out, the system of the body known as rigor mortis?

[@triciabarr4620]

I recently learned from Shaun Attwood's channel that unless Onision's prison paperwork stated that his charges were for underage sexual contact/assault/abuse OR unless people who were already in the prison knew who he was/is and that he has had many underage sexual partners/relationships OR unless he just can't keep his own mouth shut and not advertise/bragging telling stories about how he has had underage sexual partners/relationships, then no one would know and he wouldn't have any repercussion for being what they refer to in prison as a "chomo". Being a "chomo" child molester comes with an automatic "k.o.s" kill on site or constant severe beatings. If Greg/Onision/Onion boy or whatever has absolutely any sense of self preservation he wouldn't do anything that could remotely risk his possible imprisonment. I'm fairly certain that even if he somehow lucked out while being in prison where absolutely no one knows anything about him, his past sexual relationships with underage partners, he doesn't brag about his past sexual relationships with underage partners, he wasn't in jail/prison for being with underage partners, then I'm fairly certain that he would be constantly beaten just for being an annoying whinging self entitled asshat ... absolutley no one in jail/prison would remotely entertain/put up with his crap for very long and definitely not repeatedly.

[@allstarme-no8qb]

@@triciabarr4620 1) dont just cause Shaun Atwood said it dont make it true,. they'd find out in 2 seconds. Gaurds would know hes a KZbinr or someone would recognize him cause itd be on the news, they have phones in there and one KZbin search and thats his ass. That simple

[@xboxboys03]

Jake Ryan What the actual nutter butter bullshit fuckery is this reply?

[@the_furry_inside_your_walls639]

@@willhowardlokoartyui I mean... he would enter that system once he's been in prison for long enough. Prisoners hate child predators. lol

[@erinellis8463]

watching this in 2023 and hearing you say "lets hope for better things in 2020" just gave me a real chuckle lol

[@TheAssassin2299]

We have updates

[@hastiomidi4298]

As a victim of domestic abuse it was hard but incredibly insightful to hear your in-depth analysis.

[@SchlyterMia]

Never trust someone who only smiles with their mouth and never their eyes.

[@dorkydragon5055]

This one gets it. ^^

[@bengaltiger8790]

If you can see the madness, stay away from it.

[@bee4590]

Duchenne smile is what you’re describing, if you’re interested

[@SchlyterMia]

@@bee4590 Cool! Didn't know there was a term for it. Thanx. :)

[@SaintBuick]

It can also be reduced affect, which is different than apathy or sociopathy... Or a stroke.

[@Parishdise]

As someone who's name is "Shiloh Kai" listening to this story is weird

[@catlady4858]

Cool name though

[@bigbruh7413]

Your name is pretty rad

[@craftchild_9151]

😂👍 poor thing. I imagine yeah. 😂

[@XSlimSxadyX]

Don’t worry, we all have weird names!

[@sirtalkalotdoolittle]

Consider yourself lucky that is your only connection to this monstrosity.

[@ausar4148]

“In 10 years when she’s 25” *Hol’ up*

[@kristinj3339]

You know, this is the second video from this creator I've seen after it randomly appeared in my feed today, and I am super impressed with the structure of it. This is actually a talented documentary journalist. Two thumbs up should be an option.

[@hannahs614]

I just wish you had mentioned that Shiloh says she had that grand mal seizure because Greg was causing her THAT much stress

[@christalcavanaugh]

Not to mention the possible reason for her miscarriage. Didn’t he make her sleep on the floor WHILE pregnant?

[@LieraLolita]

Emily Geier in the hallway. It was really heart breaking to hear her taking about it.

[@najadamu2724]

Well, it's just a testament to just HOW much shit Onision's done to his girlfriends over the years that one video can't always include all the details. Not to mention, I imagine most people watching this already know about that. Arguably, the more telling indication of Onision's disgusting behaviour was that he RECORDED her having said seizure. That was the first red flag to many KZbinrs starting out in commentary that Onision was more than just that wacky emo guy who got famous for a banana video and made a couple of videos calling meat-eaters bad people.

[@irenamaria8859]

The reason why she went to Canada to get treated is because Greg refused to pay for her getting treated in America. This girl, who was actively going into sepsis from having his dead child inside her body, had to fly back to her home country to get help because he literally just didn’t give a shit about her. He then later publically accused her of having faked all of this, too. He’s absolutely vile.

[@butterballporkbunthetoymak]

Hannah Scharfenberg Ahh I was wondering about that, I’ve had Petit mal seizures.

[@sexylazercatwizard]

"sHe DoEsN't WaNt tO sHaRe HeR PrIvAtE lIfE" ...good one Greg, how bout those others that didn't want that. Hope he trips on his own shoelaces every hour till the end of time.

[@anthonyhayes1267]

I hope he wakes up 4 minutes before his alarm goes off.

[@scottski02]

I hope his socks stay permanently wet

[@optillian4182]

I hope he wakes up to find the floors of his house covered in LEGO bricks.

[@bekir51500]

I hope he always has a tiny rock in his right shoe.

[@rubyreduxx]

I hope his carpets are forever stained with kombucha

[@beeboobae]

God I cannot believe I watched this guy like 8 years ago as a preteen... thank god he never reached out to me I have no idea where I’d be today

[@alyryan2832]

I was 12 when an mirrored situation happened to me..my friends mother would use alcohol & other measures to groom myself & 6 other girls that we know of over the years..she did this with/for he boyfriend later involving her husband as they all lived in the same house..honestly I feel that the emotional abuse from this women was worse then the sexual abuse that followed..she knew what she was doing & was well experienced even doing this with her daughter..I personally feel there is a defining line that one changes from victim to perpetrators & any "excuse" of manipulation/abuse is no longer valid pass that point..she gave them access she gave them permission she gave them opportunity & she actively participated making it all open in the house so it didn't feel as if this was wrong nor a traumatic situation..we are all accountable & responsible especially as we grow throughout the years..you choose behaviours you choose the consequences...