The French conquest of Vietnam and Indochina (1858 - 1907)

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3 жыл бұрын

The French colonization of Vietnam began in 1858 with the siege of Da Nang, and the occupation of Saigon a year later. In 1862 was established the colony of Cochinchina, and in 1867 Siam recognised the 1863 French protectorate on Cambodia. After a French ultimatum in 1883, the Court of Huế accepted a French protectorate for Annam and Tonkin. After a short conflict with Siam, France annexed Laos in 1893. The French expansion in Indochina continued until 1907. It took dozens of years for the French to conquer all the territories of the future so-called Indochinese Union, which the French created in 1887 to include the colony of Cochinchina and the four protectorates of Annam, Tonkin, Cambodia, and Laos.
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@lukeldh8064
@lukeldh8064 11 ай бұрын
It was said that my great great grandfather was an Vietnamese imperial commander who took part in the 1885 failed attack on the French garrison in the imperial capital Hue and had to carry emperor Ham Nghi out of there. Later, as a resistance fighter, he participated in an attempt to poison the French garrison at Hanoi in 1908, which was also unsuccessful. That attempt led to a crack down by the French on Vietnamese rebels & intellectuals which eventually led to the emigration of Ho Chi Minh, who was persecuted because he was the son of a rebellious imperial official, out of Saigon in 1911. And then the rest is history. Thank you for making this video about a little-known part of Vietnamese history.
@frafra224
@frafra224 11 ай бұрын
Tôn thất thuyết or Nguyễn Văn Tường?
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog 11 ай бұрын
Consider how much the Nguyen dynasty had looted from impoverished Vietnamese peasants and indigenous Cham and Khmer peoples to enrich themselves in gold jeweled palaces, Vietnamese have no sympathetic to the Nguyen defeat.
@ubermenschen3636
@ubermenschen3636 11 ай бұрын
Ho Chi Minh immigrated to the Russia and China where he studied Marx communism. During WW2, He joined a guerrilla group that sabotaged and engaged the Imperial Japanese Army stationed in N Vietnam. After Japan’s surrender to USA, Ho and Giap turned their attention to the French colonialists who invited themselves back to Indo-China and with Uncle Sam’s blessing. Using weapons supplied by USA the French Army subjugated the Vietnamese once again. Ho and Giap defeated the French Army at the Battle of Diem Bien Phu in 1950. The Americans tried their luck when the French left. Ho and Giáp’s guerrilla army defeated the mighty U.S. military in 1972. As Martin Luther King shouted so famously : Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, Free at Last!
@CSQLHC
@CSQLHC 8 ай бұрын
@@ubermenschen3636 Something wrong but thannk you!
@doriangreyflanel2833
@doriangreyflanel2833 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for that information but don’t for a minute think that the mighty US Army lost Vietnam ..America was cutting edge in nuclear weapons at that time uranium, etc. etc. it could’ve wiped Vietnam off the face of the Earth. Thankfully they did not do that. It was an unjust war America should’ve never went there in the first place. The military did not lose that war, the politicians and the president in the idiots that were surrounding the American president like Robert McNamara . That same mindset that the Commies are coming, filtered down to every president after him to include the idiot Ronald Reagan.
@robertsansone1680
@robertsansone1680 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent. Well researched. Thank You
@gmansard641
@gmansard641 2 жыл бұрын
It's not well known that the French were doing similar things in Korea. And like in Vietnam the Korean government was suppressing Korean converts and French clerics. After a vicious persecution in 1866 a French admiral sent a force from Vietnam to Korea, which led to a brief war. But unlike in Vietnam, France did not colonize Korea, it was Japan who created a protectorate in 1905.
@crusaderforchrist8430
@crusaderforchrist8430 Жыл бұрын
But unlike Vietnam, the Koreans won that war, and beated back the French.
@gmansard641
@gmansard641 Жыл бұрын
@@crusaderforchrist8430 Even less well known is that the US did something similar in Korea in 1871, fought a brief undeclared war in the same area around Ganghwa-do as did the French several years earlier.
@crusaderforchrist8430
@crusaderforchrist8430 Жыл бұрын
@@gmansard641 It was another pointless incursion, the Korean gov't wouldn't be forced to sign any agreement with the West until 1880s. Korea unlike neighboring countries like China and Japan didn't give in to Western demands until very late 19th century.
@gmansard641
@gmansard641 Жыл бұрын
@@crusaderforchrist8430 Yes, I think the first American treaty with Korea was in 1882. Japan had one from 1876. Through the early 20th century the greatest foreign influences in Korea came from Japan and the US. We pulled out after the Russo-Japanese and a little- known agreement between US and Japan, the Taft-Katsura Accord of 1905.
@crusaderforchrist8430
@crusaderforchrist8430 Жыл бұрын
@@gmansard641 I wouldn't say US was greatest foreign influence during that time. Japan was and slowly interfered in Korean affairs from 1890s to 1905 by gradually eliminating any political force in Korean court that opposed Japanese influence (Empress Min and her fraction), and eliminating outside foreign interference (China and Russia). The protectorate treaty was signed by 4 members of Korean Empire cabinet (pro-Japanese infitrators), de jure, without the permission of Korean emperor Gojong signature. The Taft-Katsura accord acknowleges US to allow Japanese protectorate over Korea after Russo-Japanese war.
@dragonv7863
@dragonv7863 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for making video, very interesting info
@d.c.8828
@d.c.8828 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for this.
@justjoe942
@justjoe942 11 ай бұрын
I enjoyed that; thanks for posting.
@salvadorvizcarra769
@salvadorvizcarra769 11 ай бұрын
Propaganda, but NOT History, has led us to believe that the Empire of Japan began its territorial expansion in the 1930’s, invading China, creating the puppet State of Manchukuo and “Provoking” the war with the Western Powers. But, Was this really, how events happened? Did Japan invade China and South East Asia? It seems so. However, the Propaganda does NOT say that for centuries, all Asia was invaded by Western Powers. England occupied India, Burma (Myanmar); Singapore, Malaysia and China (Hong Kong, Nanking, Shanghai, etc). France dominated all Indochina. The Netherlands intervened by the Force of its Arms, to all of Indonesia. And Belgium, Germany, Portugal, Spain, and of course, also the United States were in South East Asia cuz, for example this country, the US, occupied the Philippines since 1898. (Spanish-American War). Thus the panorama in the 30's, the Empire of Japan, when defeating to the Tsarist Russian Empire, it also decided to "Grow" by invading its neighbors. In those years, all European nations had colonies in Africa, India, the Middle East, Asia and America. (England came to occupy almost ¼ part of the planet). For its part, the US, in 113 years of existence as a nation in those years, had "Grown" 711 the size of its territory from its original 13 colonies. Now is the picture clear? Japan for its part, had fought on the side of the winners in World War I (1914-1918), and they, the Japanese, not awarded any "Gain". The western victors of WWI divided the world. Japan was excluded. Thus, Japan's motives for attacking and expanding as the Europeans and the US did seem clearer, right? Then they, the Japanese, attacked China in 30’s, which was occupied by 6 Western Powers for almost a century. None of the Western Powers occupying China at this time, OPPOSED or fought Japan for Invading China. NONE! Then, 11 years later after having occupied the territory of China and coexisted without any problem with the Western Powers within China, they, the Japanese, attacked Hawaii, which in turn, this Island had been occupied and annexed by the US in 1898. (In 1900-01, Hawaii became US territory and Hawaii ceased to be an independent nation after more than 630 years of sovereignty. By the time Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, the United States had just completed the 40th anniversary of the military occupation and annexation of Hawaii). They, the Japanese, attacked Singapore, which was then a Colony of England. They, the Japanese, attacked the Philippines, which were occupied by the US and whose Gov’r, Douglas MacArthur reined as Emperor. Yup… Truly like an Absolute Autocrat. Therefore, the Japanese did NOT attack (In the 40’s), Singapore, China, Indonesia, Malaysia, Borneo, Timor, the Philippines, etc. In reality, the Japanese attacked England, France, Belgium, Holland, the US, etc. That is, the Japanese attacked the Western Powers invading all of Asia. That is the verifiable truth. But, Propaganda has made us believe that the good guys were us, the US. And of course… Nanking was a horrendous Genocide committed by Japan, but, it was no more horrendous than the 12 Genocides committed by the United States in his History and all over the world. Nor was it less horrendous than the Genocide committed by King Leopold II of Belgium, in Central Africa. Nor was Nanking more or less horrendous than the Genocides that the British Empire committed in America, Africa, Australia, Middle East, India and also in China too. And now, the Japanese are our friends and allies... Yup… But, to fight against China, AGAIN!!! Well… No More. No More British Malaya nor British Borneo nor British wherever. No More French Indochina. No more Dutch Indies. No More Portugese Domains. No More US Domain here. Asia is for Asians and “The China Sea” belongs to CHINA. Westerns powers have nothing to do in Asia.
@quangluuthanh9562
@quangluuthanh9562 28 күн бұрын
Great! Thanks for posting.
@lawLess-fs1qx
@lawLess-fs1qx 29 күн бұрын
Best concise whirlwind tour of Vietnamese history I have ever seen. Thanks for posting
@cyclopsthebanzai6758
@cyclopsthebanzai6758 7 ай бұрын
OMG THANK YOU SO MUCH! THIS REALLY HELPED WITH MY FRENCH HOMEWORK
@judithoconnor6442
@judithoconnor6442 11 ай бұрын
Thank you. I found this interesting.
@orthoff123
@orthoff123 6 ай бұрын
Very interesting! Thank you for your good work...
@jotarokujo3041
@jotarokujo3041 2 жыл бұрын
man you worked so hard on this to get so little likes. We Need To Get You More Likes Because You Taught Me My Family History.
@HistoryClass
@HistoryClass 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I'm glad my video was useful :)
@jotarokujo3041
@jotarokujo3041 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryClass no problem.
@timothykeith1367
@timothykeith1367 11 ай бұрын
The producers of history video put their hearts into the projects, the views will gradually follow because the content remains just as relevant five years from now
@maryfiore5905
@maryfiore5905 Жыл бұрын
You did a wonderful job with this. I have been looking for art work on this topic, specifically the rubber plantations. What are your sources?
@dennaokiredeep2137
@dennaokiredeep2137 4 ай бұрын
hihi can i ask you what art work, can i see it on Behance??
@edmundcowan9131
@edmundcowan9131 11 ай бұрын
Good job. Amazing history.
@antoniocarrascosa6060
@antoniocarrascosa6060 7 ай бұрын
Muy buen documental...enhorabuena
@michaelplanchunas3693
@michaelplanchunas3693 11 ай бұрын
A SOLDIER OF THE LEGION, An Englishman's Adventures under the French Flag in Algeria and Cochin, 1907 George Manington. Follows his tour of duty in late 1890s in the Foreign Legion. Trained in Algeria, his unit was deployed to Vietnam where he was engaged in combat until his enlistment was over and he returned to Europe.
@jackket6708
@jackket6708 Жыл бұрын
Thai king Chulalongkorn was correct in suspecting France intention to colonize his country called Siam at the time, after France finished conquering Indochina (Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos). King Chulalongkorn got tacit agreement from England to stop the French from colonizing his country. if you look at the 1800's map, we see England controlled India and Burma. So France intention was to fill the gap by controlling Thailand (Siam) located between the British Empire and Indochina.
@gosnooky
@gosnooky 11 ай бұрын
This is why Rama V (Chulalongkorn) is held in such esteem by Thais to this day. His portrait is often hung next to that of Rama IX in people's homes. Without his pragmatism and political acumen, it's very likely France would have annexed Siam which undoubtedly could have led to war with Britain. Avoiding colonization has become a deeply-rooted pillar of Thai identity and a source of pride that endures to this day. Fascinating video, very well presented.
@nurval1093
@nurval1093 11 ай бұрын
Thailand was not colonized by french thanks to english empire, while it was not colonized by english thanks to france. Thailand managed a succesful diplomacy with both empires, taking the rol of a buffer kingdom. Thailand had the luck of bordering two european powerful colonies that were enemies between them. So france and england needed siam stays independent in order to avoid a conflict between both empires, letting siam take military advantaje of that rivalry.
@anthonytruong1061
@anthonytruong1061 11 ай бұрын
Funny enough, acceptance of trans people in Thailand remains to this day where former European colonies have some level of LGBT discrimination
@NextMobile-ui7go
@NextMobile-ui7go 7 ай бұрын
If you have Time , follow on this History and cherch Mr Gustave Rolin Jacquemin ... Belgique ... Prime ministère of Thaïlande for Rama 5 about 10 years ! And save thé souveraing of Thaïlande
@daenghasriofficial
@daenghasriofficial Ай бұрын
Siam was a buffer state thats why they remained independent. If british wasnt there to remind french to stop harassing siam, the whole country would have been annexed.
@damiann4734
@damiann4734 2 жыл бұрын
Lol Siam was making deals after deals. They dealt their way out if troubles haha
@hoainamthan8188
@hoainamthan8188 2 жыл бұрын
Vietnamese seen
@damiann4734
@damiann4734 2 жыл бұрын
@@hoainamthan8188 what do make a deal?
@KKLmaoZ
@KKLmaoZ Жыл бұрын
@@damiann4734 what
@daenghasriofficial
@daenghasriofficial Ай бұрын
Yes they are cowards. Unlike viet and burma who fought bravely.
@user-id3br6xx5e
@user-id3br6xx5e 21 күн бұрын
And Thais lost a lot of territory while countries such as Vietnam were just colonies but not annexed territories, unlike Algeria.
@flawyerlawyertv7454
@flawyerlawyertv7454 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😀
@jj-eg5up
@jj-eg5up 2 ай бұрын
Informative
@tonivang123
@tonivang123 Жыл бұрын
It's so sad that in the 1800s China, Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia and Laos are so weak and unable to protect themselves against foreign invasion. Asian countries must keep strong military to protect from foreign imperialism.
@luongo7886
@luongo7886 Жыл бұрын
Vietnam is the ONLY Asian nation that beat that many European powers (France, Spain, Holland, German soldiers serving under France). Even china lost to Europe.
@kewintaylor7056
@kewintaylor7056 11 ай бұрын
No imperialism now,..its only intervention from Nato and America😂… And we ASEAN would never let then conquer us ever again!
@mostlymessingabout
@mostlymessingabout 11 ай бұрын
It didn't help that other Asian countries... Filipino mercenaries aided them. Then Thailand, Filipino, Koreans mercenaries aided 🇺🇸 during the Vietnam War 😢
@roideschats8799
@roideschats8799 11 ай бұрын
@@mostlymessingabout yes... North African and Senegalese volunteers were also numerous in the French army.
@luongo7886
@luongo7886 11 ай бұрын
Yes, that's VERY TRUE. MANY MUSLIMS fought in the French military to kill Viets. SHAME ON ISLAM AND MUSLIMS! But Vietnam BEAT THEM ALL! Vietnam is the ONLY nation in the world to BEAT ALL ENEMIES! PRAISE LORD JESUS! Amen.
@MinhNguyen-ff6xf
@MinhNguyen-ff6xf 3 жыл бұрын
Emperor Tu Duc massacred Christian population in Vietnam including Jesuit missionaries, and one priest was brutally executed. He was an old friend of the empress Eugenie de Montijo, thus, she convinced her spouse, emperor Napoleon III to launch a campaign against Vietnam to revenge, protect Christianity, and conquer Vietnam. The French legions successfully captured the poorly defended South Vietnam which was later named “Cochinchine”, but they lost a great price to ultimately conquer the North and South Vietnam.
@MinhNguyen-jw3ln
@MinhNguyen-jw3ln 3 жыл бұрын
Tu Duc definitely drew lots of attention unfortunately. On the side note, it is more correct to say southern Vietnam than “South Vietnam” because South Vietnam usually denotes the regime that existed after 1954. Before that, there was no such thing as “South Vietnam”.
@shadowblitzo123
@shadowblitzo123 2 жыл бұрын
Tu Duc was a kind man, but the catholics had pushed his luck. Minh mang was actually the most brutal one towards christians. This is because the christians/catholics planned to overthrow the country, who teamed up with Le Van Khoi (Le Van Khoi's Rebellion) to form a catholic centric nation to support missionaries and catholicism in the region and people, which the Nguyen rulers were not of.
@chanlamkha5766
@chanlamkha5766 2 жыл бұрын
Massacred or not. They will find another excuse to invading Vietnam soon or later.
@soberman1520
@soberman1520 2 жыл бұрын
@@chanlamkha5766 like they justify war against china
@marthalakerep
@marthalakerep 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty "Christian" to launch a "revenge" campaign doesn't it? Lol 😆 🤣 What happened to "turn the other cheek?" OH wait... Vietnam 🇻🇳 isn't even thier country.
@cprow0997
@cprow0997 3 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻 ur underrated
@SobaYatai
@SobaYatai 2 жыл бұрын
11:49 just pointing out here that the painting is actually an image of Siamese line infantry [Regular] and elephant gun battery marching to Shan state (Northeastern province of Burma) When Siam goes to wars with the French. King Chulalongkorn dispatched the King's Guard Infantry [Elite] (uniform of the unit is the one that you see is the British colonial troops uniforms that seen used in zulu wars) You should have had used the gunboat diplomacy incident ones, because it took most parts of the wars and play key role here that resulted in Siam losing land to French Indochina
@daenghasriofficial
@daenghasriofficial Ай бұрын
11:49 the shan state incident with british ?
@SobaYatai
@SobaYatai Ай бұрын
@@daenghasriofficial Siam tries to take over Kengtung and Cheng hung as nominal ally of the British in the wars but failed due to bad logistic planning and had to march all the way back with no victory whatsoever
@daenghasriofficial
@daenghasriofficial Ай бұрын
@@SobaYatai those 2 states were formally a vassal of Burma.
@normangrochowski6972
@normangrochowski6972 2 жыл бұрын
I think your video could have been much better but the facts and scene changes are too fast. Keep in mind, the viewer is also reading the subtitles. Quick changes from scene to scene doesn't give one time to take in what transpired when dates and encounters are fed one after another along with the graphics. I think you would be better off to give the viewer a chance to look at the illustrations, especially when maps and subtitles are included. I found myself mainly just reading the subtitles and missing all of your illustrations and graphics. This is only a critique not a criticism of the good work that was put into your effort.
@HistoryClass
@HistoryClass 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your review. I tried to add useful information as much as possible, thinking that viewers can put the video on pause for reading every graphic information. Maybe I should add less graphics in the future. It also would be easier for me. But I only added subtitles to the videos 2 months ago. 🙂
@normangrochowski6972
@normangrochowski6972 2 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryClass The subtitles are a excellent addition. My only critique on the graphics is that they switch off too quickly. The graphics are actually good and are a big help to viewers. Perhaps you were concerned about time and wanted to make the video to not take up too much time. However, the story and history of the French Conquest of that region is so important that it shouldn't be rushed. I myself would not have minded if it had taken longer to watch, because it's an interesting story. I know in this day and age many people want things that are quick. The only problem with that is very little sticks, or stays inside their head as knowledge. It's my feeling that if the graphics stayed on the screen a little bit longer, the scenes of maps, facts and dates, would give people a chance to have it more memorable. I also believe that the people who are truly interested in History and knowing the facts, are the type of people who are willing to take the time to learn it, especially when it's put into a video with graphics as interesting as yours. There's an old saying about writing that might apply to what I am saying it goes something like... " Don't Write for Anyone, Write for Someone " I think it would apply to videos also since in actuality it is writing with words, graphics and voice-over. Then again, I am no editor or film maker, so it's not like I have any professional feedback. This is only my opinion. Maybe others would consider my opinion invalid. So, I am only offering it as to the way I think you could improve the viewing of it. Thanks for all of your hard work in making this video.
@lisamirako1073
@lisamirako1073 8 ай бұрын
@@normangrochowski6972 You can pause the video at any point as long as you want and also rewind it. This is KZbin, not television!
@remivieilledent
@remivieilledent 11 ай бұрын
My grand grand grand father participate to the conquest of Cochinchine. He brought back in France lot of Vietnamese decoration stuff, furniture, vase, etc. There is a real hype for oriental culture in France in the second part of the XIX century. So my gran gran gran father open an decoration and furniture Asian shop. By his contact he could supply his shop him and his little daughter. The shop end in 90's. Vietnamese stuff, and then after independance of Vietnam, Chinese stuff. Si just imagine this big Asian furniture shop in a town of south part of France who exist during more than one century. You should realise than colonisation open mind of European people to other cultures. They like this cultures and same have a kind of pride to "have" this cultures inside of their empire. As British with India or Egypt I guess. This interest for other cultures change the way the European see their own culture. For exemple "expressionism" been influence in part by Asian (japanese) painting conceptions. But no, European do not considerate this cultures as "inferior" or "barbaric". So it is a strange relation who melt domination and a real interest who caracterise European feelings for other cultures.
@radiofreeacab
@radiofreeacab 11 ай бұрын
That's a lot of barely coherent words trying to pretend that british french etc. genocides against the developing world never happened 😂 maybe just stop talking 😂
@remivieilledent
@remivieilledent 11 ай бұрын
@@radiofreeacab a genocide ? 2.3 millions of Algerian people in 1856. In 1962 (end of colonisation by France in Algeria) 11.8 millions Algerian. What a strange genocide...
@mehmetii8527
@mehmetii8527 11 ай бұрын
​@@radiofreeacabAre you american ?
@radiofreeacab
@radiofreeacab 11 ай бұрын
@@mehmetii8527 I'm an amerikan, yes, and as such I'm an expert in recognizing colonial genocides 🤣 the French don't have the body count of amerika or the UK but they're equally culpable for capitalist empire
@Sandfish-zw6id
@Sandfish-zw6id 11 ай бұрын
@@radiofreeacab Ironic recognizing genocides or war crimes, imperialism from an American ... 🙃
@VNExperience
@VNExperience 3 жыл бұрын
The arrogance of the French to claim ownership of Vietnam is astonishing, as well as their delusional thinking that they could maintain control of the country as late as the 1950s after oppressing the Vietnamese people for some 70 years. 🙄 It's interesting how the Vietnamese don't hold a grudge against the French or the Americans today. Having been living in Saigon since 2014, I can say the people here are very friendly and don't think about the past. Xin chào các bạn! ❤
@zacltshistory
@zacltshistory 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe because the French have bring many thing if you Ask the vietnamese
@h4rck04
@h4rck04 2 жыл бұрын
The vietnamese don't hold grudges because victim status is not passed down from generation to generation.
@Cartichanel
@Cartichanel 2 жыл бұрын
@@h4rck04 we vietnamese aren't hold victim mentality, we only thrive forward😃
@h4rck04
@h4rck04 2 жыл бұрын
@@Cartichanel And that's great. Thanks not to be like the arabic countries. Love Vietnam from France.
@h4rck04
@h4rck04 2 жыл бұрын
@HEY HEY HEY Yeah, continue to justify your hate. Victimisation culture. I could do the same with Italy: "Snif snif the Roman Empire colonized us", now let's kill people from Roma to avenge glorious Gallia!
@ruthniangngaiching967
@ruthniangngaiching967 Жыл бұрын
It's more interesting when you imagined it as Gru's voice
@lill_m8
@lill_m8 3 жыл бұрын
Can someone please explain 3:11 - 3:29? No fence but his English makes it quite hard to understand.
@HistoryClass
@HistoryClass 3 жыл бұрын
After they conquered the citadel, the French lacked the manpower to defend it, and preferred to demolish it.
@lill_m8
@lill_m8 3 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryClass Thank you for your answer! I'm sorry to ask, but what's the name of the citadel, and where did the 100 Spanish men come from, that were placed under the siege of 10 000 vietnamise? They were never mentioned to my understanding until 3:21
@lill_m8
@lill_m8 3 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryClass ​3:35 - 3:37Do you mean "divert from china?" It doesn't make sense for me any other way. But if it does, do you mind explaining why is makes sense in this context 3:29 - 3:37?
@HistoryClass
@HistoryClass 3 жыл бұрын
@@lill_m8 , the Citadel Saigon, also known as Citadel of Gia Định is the name. The Spanish entered this war because one of their bishops was killed in Vietnam. They received only money from Vietnamese in 1862, not territories like the French, and then retreated.
@HistoryClass
@HistoryClass 3 жыл бұрын
@@lill_m8 The French were at war with China and had troops in the region, when the war with Annam began.
@loginavoidence12
@loginavoidence12 11 ай бұрын
what's Ian McCullough doing in Vietnam
@vunguyenxuanhoang7422
@vunguyenxuanhoang7422 Жыл бұрын
First emperor of Nguyen dynasty - Gia Long were heavy dependent on the support of a French missionary who also a spy working for French government to gaining weapons,battleships,mercenaries troops,… Cost of those support is a lot of contracts that he will pay back with territory, fortunately those contracts are disrupted by government changes in France. After successfully takes the throne, he immediately ask to become a vassal of Qing dynasty and adopted their foreign policies that hostile towards all foreign
@havu-oj4qh
@havu-oj4qh 10 ай бұрын
Collaborators with foreign invaders have always been vilified in the history of Vietnam
@bonholio0o
@bonholio0o 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting, have no idea Vietnam was the big brother to surrounding 3 countries: Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia. Always stood their ground against imperialism from oversea and from up north. FYI: Moral was extremely low after they fought Americans due to extreme high casualties. Yet they still have the balls to clean up the mess over in Cambodia and even beaten up the Chinese for crossing the border in 1979.
@SuperHiddenaccount
@SuperHiddenaccount 11 ай бұрын
Vietnam was a larger country before being colonized by the French. They had conquered parts of Laos and Cambodia as well as vassalizing the rest of Cambodia at that time.
@jeong-eunking5981
@jeong-eunking5981 8 ай бұрын
Don't brag, Vietnam was ruled by China for almost 1000 years and was a vassal state of the mainland for the last 1000 years
@DucaTech
@DucaTech 2 ай бұрын
​@@jeong-eunking5981Koreans were also a vassal state of China too, no?
@holtridge7337
@holtridge7337 20 күн бұрын
France had a colony in Southeast Asia. Great Britain had multiple colonies throughout the world. Italy had a colony in Northeast Africa. It's interesting to see how the World once looked. It was very different.
@kanthayan726
@kanthayan726 9 ай бұрын
The video will be perfect if change the voice
@malamati007
@malamati007 11 ай бұрын
Too much detail about the battles....should focus on brevity and the big picture in the early going, delivering the large scope understanding that most viewers want...then delve into the detail for those who really want it. This is boring and hard to assess for separating the essentials from the blow-by-blow.
@bouchacourtthierry8506
@bouchacourtthierry8506 11 ай бұрын
Hospitals, roads, train traffic, bridges, acqueducs, electricity, munuments, universités, médecines....
@danielgoh9182
@danielgoh9182 11 ай бұрын
Who cares..?? Those were built for the benefit of the French and not the locals. Trying to claim otherwise would be akin to saying that your mother did not bring you into this world.
@leaveme3559
@leaveme3559 11 ай бұрын
Do French still think this way
@lykatheaaflame8254
@lykatheaaflame8254 10 ай бұрын
@@leaveme3559 No, just a small minority.
@user-NoomieGaion
@user-NoomieGaion 4 ай бұрын
​@@lykatheaaflame8254 Liar! Many of pro-colonialism still exist in this section!
@lykatheaaflame8254
@lykatheaaflame8254 4 ай бұрын
I live in France since decades, even among right-wing people I have never seen someone being nostalgic about Indochina. I don't care about the unhinged people on KZbin, that type of subject tends to attract that sort of people.@@user-NoomieGaion
@nguyenuctrung3814
@nguyenuctrung3814 2 жыл бұрын
you triggered Laos and Khmer so hard by using Vietnamese emperor as thumbnail for indochina
@HistoryClass
@HistoryClass 2 жыл бұрын
The most part of the video is about Vietnam, that's why I used an image of a Vietnamese emperor. They will understand after watching the video :)
@shadowblitzo123
@shadowblitzo123 2 жыл бұрын
It's cause they were irrelevant.
@franciscomm7675
@franciscomm7675 3 жыл бұрын
A new video at last
@warmonger8799
@warmonger8799 Жыл бұрын
EPIC ❤💙🤍
@unknownuser6757
@unknownuser6757 3 жыл бұрын
The French spread so much suffering jeez.
@ddoumeche
@ddoumeche 2 жыл бұрын
that's for human rights
@christophermichaelclarence6003
@christophermichaelclarence6003 2 жыл бұрын
Also the British
@kal_bewe1837
@kal_bewe1837 2 жыл бұрын
Oui
@christophermichaelclarence6003
@christophermichaelclarence6003 2 жыл бұрын
@Evangelos Amata We French know that. We conquered only Vietnam instead
@shadowblitzo123
@shadowblitzo123 2 жыл бұрын
@Evangelos Amata the cambodians begged the french to come rule them lolol
@shadowblitzo123
@shadowblitzo123 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Sorry about the wumao and campodian raging in the comments.
@sangle1429
@sangle1429 3 жыл бұрын
A part is quang chau loan(china)
@vibotx
@vibotx 3 жыл бұрын
5:37 this is not the picture of king Norodom, this is the picture of king Sisovat (king norodom's son)
@HistoryClass
@HistoryClass 3 жыл бұрын
The picture is from the Wikipedia page about king Norodom. I don't think they have mistaken.
@vibotx
@vibotx 3 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryClass sorry my bad, i was confuse, you're right.
@HistoryClass
@HistoryClass 3 жыл бұрын
@@vibotx , no problem, anybody can make mistakes
@tooshy8099
@tooshy8099 Жыл бұрын
Only Vietnam fought and die for their identity while Cambodia and Thailand didnt even try to fight for their independence
@ybor20
@ybor20 2 жыл бұрын
1:13 ...refuses to modernize the country.. Those priest that came to Vietnam had no idea about its culture nevertheless they came to tell them that the Vietnamese culture was inferior to theirs. I guess they also had nice stories about the Inquisition, stakes and witch’s persecution; a very popular form of modernization in Europe. Vietnamese (but also other Asian countries) judged these activities as very disturbing and, in the long run, very dangerous and responded quite preventively. After all, they were not the first foreigners who came to occupy Vietnam. Normally foreigners come to trade. But missionaries only came to tell them that they were pagans but if they converted their empire would come with even a three-piece king. Yes, Vietnamese were not waiting for a new ruler and his followers. For them they were just new invaders and so they treated them.
@thanhhoangnguyen4754
@thanhhoangnguyen4754 2 жыл бұрын
Especially under someone who keen on projecting himself as a Catholic Protector. A child chasing his uncle shadow. Thinking that with this he will make Frech Empire great like his uncle.
@hermannboyen5392
@hermannboyen5392 2 жыл бұрын
False narrative. France actually did a lot improving Vietnam. They lifted Vietnam from being ruled by dark-age isolationist neo-confucianists. The Nguyen emperors actively suppressed Buddhism (Mahayana and Theravada), persecuted Christians and Muslims, suppressed ethnic minorities, jailed all dissents and bashed intellectuals who perceived European liberal ideas and technology. 462 rebellions throughout Vietnam ad Cambodia against Nguyen rule from 1802 to 1858. Million Vietnamese were starving and dying of cholera while the autocratic emperor enjoyed pleasure and shut down the bad news.
@ybor20
@ybor20 2 жыл бұрын
@@hermannboyen5392 Yes, the French did great things, just read Vu Trong Phung's book Luc Xi: about the Prostitution and Venereal Disease in Colonial Hanoi thanks to the French. By making the alphabetic writing mandatory they cut of and destroyed the whole history of the Vietnamese language. And maybe you should visit the jails where the French throws the Vietnamese in to beat them to death.....and by the way....Vietnam is not from the French, it is from the Vietnamese. The French never never came to Vietnam to 'improve the live of the Vietnamese, that is an incredible lie! The only reason they came to Vietnam was that other countries were already occupied and looted empty by the English, Dutch, Portuguese and so on. The French just want their share in steeling and looting South Asia (and other places). When they build a road or whatever, it was never because it was a profit for the Vietnamese, it was only to steal more and faster. The fact that a few French did something good in Vietnam. They in no way outweighs the crimes and robberies they engaged in. To the French, the Vietnamese were something completely inferior. While the Vietnamese had a much older and richer culture than the French. It is the biggest nonsense that European countries brought "democracy" to Asia. When the first French arrived in Vietnam, the Inquisition was rampant in Europe. So don't take that Vietnamese princes were so unfriendly to other believers. Learn the history first of Europe and the massacres that took place there .
@thanhhoangnguyen4754
@thanhhoangnguyen4754 2 жыл бұрын
@@ybor20While it true our stupid Emperor is the one to blame for our holdings back our reform and mordenization not taking to the account of the Western Imperialism power and believe should be focus model itself like the Qing. Despite the facts the French did improve us a little but still the same ideal of their like all other European power. Their presence here is not to help our country improve. But to colonization, monopoly on trade of the resource here and project their influence of great Western Empire. They really have to do it becasue well if they don't they would lose to the British. And they really don't want to loose to British do they? Even Napoleon III trying to take Mexico and have the Austrian prince on throne while the American is busy with the their civil war said a lot.
@thanhhoangnguyen4754
@thanhhoangnguyen4754 2 жыл бұрын
@@ybor20 Also My friends the Catholic church at that time always have a bad reputation especially due to their past event. I rather have Protestants Dutch or at least the British Christianity came here, at least they mostly don't care much for religion just want to focus on the trade more for their Empire. Like the time when Japan kick the Portuguese out because of the their Catholicism and favor with the Dutch protestant more.
@JoseBenitez2009
@JoseBenitez2009 11 ай бұрын
You are wrong my friend, Vietnam was taken by a coalition between Spain & France, and till 1922 Spain has territories in Vietnam.
@JoseBenitez2009
@JoseBenitez2009 4 ай бұрын
@JNeace-uk8ue But for different reason, our only reason was to avoid Islam in Vietnam, and we win this. Franch has another reasons. And by the way, the Pacific, from Philipenes till Mexico was Spain till 1.898
@JoseBenitez2009
@JoseBenitez2009 4 ай бұрын
@JNeace-uk8ue Seems to me you don't understand what means colonized and part of Spanish Empire, colonized mean that a colony is a place where a nation extrat richnes for the metr'opoli, that is the case of Vietnam - French relation. Be part of Spanish Empire mean that you keep your land, your richness, your habits and you are part of the most big Empire, only one condition, no Muslim.
@onlyyoucanstopevil9024
@onlyyoucanstopevil9024 6 ай бұрын
RESPECT TO THE EMPEROR , PROTECT NATIONAL IDENTITY ALL COST 😊😊😊
@Johnathan737
@Johnathan737 4 ай бұрын
French taught lesson to a lunatic butcher
@JoeyArmstrong2800
@JoeyArmstrong2800 27 күн бұрын
Vietnamese were the only mainland Asian peoples not to be conquered by the Mongols. Speaks volumes.
@huyquang6308
@huyquang6308 15 күн бұрын
@GHOSTsq
@GHOSTsq 6 ай бұрын
They had really cool swaggeer you think that's how it was
@Squirtle-xm6bi
@Squirtle-xm6bi 14 күн бұрын
It's "invasion", not "conquest"
@Kabutoes
@Kabutoes 11 ай бұрын
Wow Vietnam losing? That’s something you don’t hear
@fredwood1490
@fredwood1490 11 ай бұрын
As I have long said, the Viet Cong, has been around a very long time, under many names. They have sought to keep Vietnam free from outside colonization and, at the risk of being called "Bandits", have sought to keep the Vietnamese Farmers and Villagers free from even the Royal Government dominance. Amazing people! Their actual politics are, doubtless harsh, but it is their choice as the "Black Flag" was a populist movement, just like the Viet Minh. The people of the countryside are very culturally different from the people of the cities, as in most places in the world, so Black Flag and Viet Cong were rural Heroes. Beaten back and even crushed, they always come back, seeking only to be left alone. Strange, nobody has ever learned this lesson, even though many thousands of foreign and Government troops left their bones in the rice paddies and green fields.
@jar3729
@jar3729 11 ай бұрын
It's like their fighting spirit, an ancient spell born from when China's predecessor states started marching into Vietnam's soil to conquer. Times and times again it was awaken to fight and keep Vietnam sovereign, no matter the cost. It's greatest achievements are that Vietnam is on the world map as a nation instead of a part of China, and as one unlike the Korea situation.
@rayray6490
@rayray6490 11 ай бұрын
⁠ the Black Flags were a Chinese bandit/mercenary group that migrated south from Guangxi into the Red River valley in Tonkin. They were actually a offshoot splinter group of the Taiping rebellion. The Vietnamese used them to fight off local indigenous tribes and also another Chinese marauder group the Yellow flags that settled in northern Vietnam. Maybe they might have recruited locally but my impression was that they were mostly Guangxi Chinese, particularly the Zhuang and Hakka. I don’t see them as a populist movement, if anything they’re more likely to raid and plunder the locals than to protect them. The Vietnamese also paid them off to counter the French in the Tonkin region which led to Garnier’s death. They’re more mercenaries than freedom fighters
@christophe36000
@christophe36000 11 ай бұрын
The French at that period of time have made Indochina a place with so many innovations for the quality of life in various cities and the delivery of beautiful architectures, having also helped the population to live globally much better ( hospitals, schools, agriculture, railways and so on ..). By example Phnom Penh was called the Pearl of Orient ..
@Kooobf
@Kooobf 11 ай бұрын
they were oppressors, don't defend colonization
@christophe36000
@christophe36000 11 ай бұрын
@@Kooobf colonization has undeniable positive sides unless you are a follower of the denial of reality, but it is your psychic problem not ours
@leaveme3559
@leaveme3559 11 ай бұрын
They nade it better for themselves
@christophe36000
@christophe36000 11 ай бұрын
@@leaveme3559 ignorance has no limits
@leaveme3559
@leaveme3559 11 ай бұрын
@@christophe36000 do you think Russians invading Ukraine is wrong?
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog Жыл бұрын
Vietnam was a Kinh settler colony. The first indigenous peoples were the Montagnards and Cham tribes but now they're gone because of White-Vietnamese colonialism
@ledoyedo5483
@ledoyedo5483 11 ай бұрын
Yeh, the vietnamese were white
@SuperHiddenaccount
@SuperHiddenaccount 11 ай бұрын
the Kinh people are native to northern Vietnam and southern China. That's the reason for the name "kinh," they lived in the flatlands of northern vietnam in larger cities and so called themselves kinh in comparison to other ethnic groups that lived in the hills or mountains in smaller villages.
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog 11 ай бұрын
@@SuperHiddenaccount kinh are southern Chinese migrated to vietnam during china colonial rule . They are not native to Vietnam. The real native Vietnamese are black Montagnards like the Champas and khemerit
@havu-oj4qh
@havu-oj4qh 10 ай бұрын
Stupid babbling
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog 3 ай бұрын
​@@JNeace-uk8ue european colonizing european. You mean the holocaust, nazi, ww2, extermination of jews and slavs in europe for german settlers
@mebeasensei
@mebeasensei 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine this being taught in Japan in a history class in 1931. Why should they respect the European conquest of the Asia, or the losses and shame of those bequeathed? Or be so ashamed of their own persecution of Christians in the early 1600s? So easy to rationalize. And yet they would soon be the evil ones themselves.
@jjns5600
@jjns5600 11 ай бұрын
There actually was such a movement in early 20th century Japan, it inevitably led to Imperial Japan, which contested the authority of the United States in Asia! It was an elaborate cultural educational period in which the government began rejecting Western influences and to learn to appreciate Japanese culture and values!
@stevens1041
@stevens1041 11 ай бұрын
Japan took it too far for sure. If they would have chilled out a bit, they are probably the world superpower today.
@Razzle_Dazzle-
@Razzle_Dazzle- 11 ай бұрын
Japan was loved by Asian anti-imperialists since they defeated Russia in 1905 and Germany in 1914, until they realized that Japan was worse than European imperialists. Japan had the opportunity to become the liberator of the Asian nations, but they destroyed it by acting as another conqueror and brutalize their fellow Asians.
@mebeasensei
@mebeasensei 11 ай бұрын
@@Razzle_Dazzle- yeah..I guess so..in a round-about-way, vaguely. But I don't think the heinous cruelty was a planned thing. Thee Japanese really respected China and Chinese culture for thousands of years, right up to the 1880s. When they say the Europeans humiliate China, they thought, let's get some of that. And I suppose they thought, lets get some empire, as did England, Germany, Spain, etc. etc..not just to be 'big' but simply to survive. They got hooked on oil and that was it. Of course, any culture has its gullible morons and programmable robots. And the fable of history as they saw it...there was no brake. Witness the atrocities Cambodians performed on one another..programmed. gettable. With a grudge.
@wavereader8847
@wavereader8847 11 ай бұрын
@@Razzle_Dazzle- Yup. Japan also had ambition to take over all of China then India since the 1600s. Crazy huh? They were the only Asian country that realize they were far behind in science and technology. Very impressive that they caught up in 20-30 years.
@bernardpoulin5254
@bernardpoulin5254 Жыл бұрын
Heureusement, les pubs sont en français.
@newredcolorchannelinthailand
@newredcolorchannelinthailand 2 жыл бұрын
ก่อนไทยเสียดินแดนเนี่ย เราสู้กับเวียดนามแต่ฝรั่งเศสเข้าไปยึดกัมพูชาจากเราไป Love France From Thailand 🇹🇭❤🇫🇷
@voi796
@voi796 5 ай бұрын
Do you like it
@user-id3br6xx5e
@user-id3br6xx5e 21 күн бұрын
No, before French came, Cambodia was vassal of both Thailand and Vietnam, Thais drew Vietnamese in the war.
@newredcolorchannelinthailand
@newredcolorchannelinthailand 21 күн бұрын
@@user-id3br6xx5e Oh
@ubermenschen3636
@ubermenschen3636 11 ай бұрын
@4:14, After the British and French defeated the Chinese in the Opium War, the French dispatched its army to Vietnam where earlier it had little success waging a concurrent war against China and IndoChina. The second French military mission succeeded. The Vietnamese could not evict the ‘foreign devils’ from their land until 1950 in the Battle of Diem Bien Phu where Ho Chi Minh routed the French Army, and again later in 1972 had to defeat the mighty U.S. military. Today, the Western Powers once again are mobilizing their military against China. If history repeats, the French will recolonize Vietnam; the Spaniard and American recolonize the Philippines; and the British recolonize Thailand and Burma.
@cuthomas4664
@cuthomas4664 10 ай бұрын
Actually, you are also giving the wrong information: the Dien Bien Phu battle happened in 1954, the French legion was defeated to Vietminh forces commanded by Gen. Giap WITH an army of Chinese Communist advisors. The American departed Vietnam in 1972 after the second bombing campaign of Hanoi and wanted a way out of the war after immerse domestic pressure. The end of the war in 1975, when South Vietnam gov collapsed in April campaign.
@Tuannguyen-uc3st
@Tuannguyen-uc3st 5 ай бұрын
My dad is from bien hoa
@LCCWPresents
@LCCWPresents 11 ай бұрын
The history Americans like myself need to know more about but don’t to understand why vitineim war was the way it was.
@kiwipinos
@kiwipinos 11 ай бұрын
Filipino troops used by the French, around the time the Americans were at war with Spain & Philippines Hmmm interesting. Something to do with the execution of Spanish Catholic missionaries by the Vietnamese ?
@TheMadisonHang
@TheMadisonHang Жыл бұрын
@2:00 the Catholics… Mussolini in ww2
@arthurheidt6373
@arthurheidt6373 11 ай бұрын
French IS already the big issue france never expanded frenchness IS Not a live seeding concept
@bigbrotherdsad6535
@bigbrotherdsad6535 11 ай бұрын
when was vietnam an empire ?
@user-id3br6xx5e
@user-id3br6xx5e 20 күн бұрын
Since it had emperor, considered itself another China, and had a system of vassals.
@ivanr4300
@ivanr4300 Жыл бұрын
So all this trouble because some stupid priest was killed??
@Karma52
@Karma52 Жыл бұрын
No. Because European take the resources from the Land. A pretext for war is the green light to conquer.
@ebonymaw8457
@ebonymaw8457 11 ай бұрын
it would have happened regardless, just in a different way. the deaths of -stupid- martyred priests were just casus belli.
@vinhvu5986
@vinhvu5986 8 ай бұрын
The Vietnamese emperor butchered and skinned them alive, 10,000 people died in Catholic massacres and 7,000 people died in the Van Than movement (anti-Catholic movement after the surrender of the Nguyen Dynasty). The massacres of the Van Than movement were so terrible that Ham Nghi (the Vietnamese king with anti-French ideology) had to declare him innocent.
@angkhoanguyen6114
@angkhoanguyen6114 5 ай бұрын
@@vinhvu5986 3 sticks idiotic mindset
@SomicGoodgamer
@SomicGoodgamer 2 жыл бұрын
Our country 🇹🇭 has suffered and is so angry about losing territories ( or Vassal ) to France. Siam's military at that era is no match for France's Imperialism, have to pay a lot of war reparations. So we seek friendship with another European power. Thai History lesson nowadays in school has Teachs this event to all children. In order to boost the Patriots. But the pass is the pass. Let us hope that France and Thai can be more prosperous by collaborating. No more European power-hungry again.
@tooshy8099
@tooshy8099 Жыл бұрын
Thailand didnt even try to protect their territories while Vietnam fought and die for their independence
@SomicGoodgamer
@SomicGoodgamer Жыл бұрын
@@tooshy8099 good to know
@luongo7886
@luongo7886 Жыл бұрын
@@tooshy8099 Actually, that's NOT true. During WWII, Thailand did attack France.
@luongo7886
@luongo7886 Жыл бұрын
@@YonIon996 Yes, but that's not the main reason why Thailand attacked France. They did so because they wanted to take back lost lands that France stole from them 80 years before.
@kewintaylor7056
@kewintaylor7056 11 ай бұрын
@@tooshy8099 wrong….they defend what should defend,thise teritory they loss Are all vassal state that didnt abey much to Siam. Only keep what good,cut the bad out.😂 But its indeed make a grudge against England and French at that time. Thats why we join Axis power in WW2.
@SuperHiddenaccount
@SuperHiddenaccount 11 ай бұрын
the persecution of Christians was a pretext for war but France would've invaded regardless as Vietnam was weak and there was a big race among Europeans to colonize the world. France helped Emperor Gia Long establish the Nguyen dynasty and was actively trying to have more and more control over Vietnam.
@daenghasriofficial
@daenghasriofficial Ай бұрын
Lol french bullied siam until british stopped french interest.
@malpreece5008
@malpreece5008 Жыл бұрын
French Indochina was impressive. Just look at the city of Da Lat built from scratch in a typical French style. Like most traditional French town planning it’s beautiful. Shame there’s a lot of people on here focusing entirely upon the negative aspects of French rule.
@icecactus11
@icecactus11 Жыл бұрын
Colonization is negative…
@malpreece5008
@malpreece5008 Жыл бұрын
@@icecactus11 Not necessarily. Colonialism has created many successful nations, and modernised many others. If you read outside of the anti-colonial/Marxist recommend reading lists there is definitely a case for colonialism.
@icecactus11
@icecactus11 Жыл бұрын
@@malpreece5008 are you guys bots? You have the same generated responses. I’m a libertarian I don’t read Marx. Colonialism has lead to countless atrocities and discrimination that effects the world until this day. Stop trying to justify this bullshit.
@malpreece5008
@malpreece5008 Жыл бұрын
@@icecactus11 I can’t answer for other people, but I’m just sick of mid-wit Marxists/post-modernists pushing the same vapid talking points about colonialism. Characterising colonialism merely by reference to the negative is facile. Colonialism brought about advances in government, medicine, healthcare, improvements in sanitation, education, transportation, development of architecture etc. Does none of that deserve any praise? Tbh, I studied colonial history for four years at uni, and the constant anti-colonial bullshit just got on my nerves. European colonialism is singled out as if it is uniquely evil, even though every human group have expanded in power and territory over time, occupying lands, governing populations, and using resources. The difference is European empires were better than all of the alternatives. You’re a libertarian? So, you adhere to principles that were outlined by John Stuart Mill, an advocate of the British Empire?
@icecactus11
@icecactus11 Жыл бұрын
@@malpreece5008 Many Europeans who make these apologetics arguments for colonialism fail to realize the nations they “improved” especially African ones. Already had the things they “brought” it’s just suppressed in history or was stolen knowledge. Colonialism no matter how you slice it is negative. You are aggressing upon a group of people creating a colony which extracts its resources hiding behind “improving” their conditions. Jordan Peterson post modernist talking points are irrelevant I’m not a dumb Marxist. The reason you are annoyed by anti-colonialism is because of the guilt you’d feel if you actually had to digest the atrocities and resource extraction that happens until this day. European colonialism is unmatched in its atrocities and resource extraction that’s why it’s focused on. No amount of feeling like you’re a victim because people call this out will make Europeans victims, no amount of “well they did it too” will make what Europeans did less okay or not exclusively European styled colonialism. No other nations on other continents especially Asia with the Japanese; who were only expansionist at a large scale after forced cooperation with the USA, came close to European nations world wide. On nearly every continent Europeans have a colony that has horrible atrocities, genocides, debt slaves and the people are not better off. These civilizations already had their forms of all the services you listed but judging them based off of European versions of these things, when they had their own solutions to problems is a common fallacy. Any argument used against the people of the world “who needed to be colonized” can easily be turned around against Europeans who had worse if not the same issues. Which is why they had to go colonizing in the first place. I can’t even name other continents that Asians, Native Americans or Africans have set up a colony that committed the same atrocities, resource extraction, genocides and exploits the natives like Europeans have done. We can’t go so anti-SJW to the point where we start justifying the unjustified just because a Marxist calls it out. Aggression upon a group of people who weren’t doing the same to you is bad no matter how you slice it. Defending colonialism to protect from the slander of your ethnic group or others ethnic group is not an excuse to excuse colonialism. Committing genocide, atrocities, exploiting the native population, slavery and resource extraction is not okay because “we gave them healthcare” or “they had slavery too”.
@neiljorgensen6646
@neiljorgensen6646 Күн бұрын
Those poor people went through hell all them years being taken advantage of and we had no business over there either y'all they wanted was Independence
@lawLess-fs1qx
@lawLess-fs1qx 29 күн бұрын
well played Siam for manoeuvring between Chinese Empire, European Empires and local kingdoms to retain sovereignty.
@ironbuffaloXX
@ironbuffaloXX 3 ай бұрын
Siam paid money to all their enemies to leave them alone. That's why no colonizing siam
@tammyho6698
@tammyho6698 11 ай бұрын
Vietnam's century of humiliation.
@alanschwartz7073
@alanschwartz7073 11 ай бұрын
Huh ?
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog 11 ай бұрын
Why the French allowed a defeated country to retain its monarchy and institution, but discriminated the indigenous Champas that used to be original black indigenous peoples in Vietnam. Because the French regarded the Champas as less civilized and barbaric, they thoroughly looted champa heritage and brought to museums of "extinct races"
@hgdon-homeiswheretreesare-9239
@hgdon-homeiswheretreesare-9239 11 ай бұрын
But French lost big at the battle of Dian Bian Fu (which at the border between Laos and Vietnam) and led America enter Indochina with the request of French of course 😊
@ArcticTemper
@ArcticTemper 3 жыл бұрын
Fine campaigning from the French, there.
@heinzrichung
@heinzrichung 11 ай бұрын
of course the french historian may regard the black flag army as bandit .
@lunafringe10
@lunafringe10 11 ай бұрын
And now France is in decay, impoverished.
@kubavu8528
@kubavu8528 2 жыл бұрын
Respect Vietnam.
@sanssucreajoute6554
@sanssucreajoute6554 11 ай бұрын
Respect France 🇨🇵🗿🏅🔥🗿
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines 3 жыл бұрын
Could France have retained control of Vietnam and Indochina after World War II?
@HistoryClass
@HistoryClass 3 жыл бұрын
If France had not been occupied by the Germans, and Indochina by the Japanese, it could have taken 2-3 decades more for Vietnam and Indochina to become independent.
@HistoryandHeadlines
@HistoryandHeadlines 3 жыл бұрын
@@HistoryClass Thank you for answering my question!
@johnbrookhaven7134
@johnbrookhaven7134 Жыл бұрын
Yes
@luongo7886
@luongo7886 Жыл бұрын
Of course NOT. Just study the glorious history of Vietnam to see how Vietnam beats ALL enemies.
@danielgoh9182
@danielgoh9182 Жыл бұрын
​@@HistoryClass Judging by all the likes you been giving, you content makers are clearly white & pro-colonialism. When are you going to do one on Russia's annexation of Crimea? Im sure you'll attract many likes.
@muhammadnoorbinrohani39
@muhammadnoorbinrohani39 3 жыл бұрын
French Indo - China. Vietnam, Laos & Cambodia.
@shadowblitzo123
@shadowblitzo123 2 жыл бұрын
@Evangelos Amata south vietnam during the vietnam war was still a part of vietnam. Looks like the khmoi rouge did a lot of damage to intelligence level. Your arguments have already been debunked but you still go on rants because you never read those arguments.
@Handle_Edit
@Handle_Edit 2 жыл бұрын
@@shadowblitzo123 War had to happen because it wasn’t unified. The French was the previous power to unify these lands. Hell Vietnam was created through Europeans intervention. Look at the history of Southeast Asia and you would realize these various Kingdoms never go to War in a manner of total submission or domination. The change is when Europeans came and instigated and lure these kingdoms with their fancy weapons. Divide and Conquer strategy applied. Also building up a Kingdom to fight their neighbors to weaken each other. After that it’s easy for the Europeans. Y’all have your fun killing each other with my guns 😂 this tactic is used all over the word. Europeans fabricated history to make these idiots feel as if they were some big shot empire lol. They weren’t no actual conquering going on in the ancient past. People were intermingling more than fighting. This is why they write history as if these folks were already killing each other. Same story they was telling about the Native Americans…Africans…so on. HISTORY IS A FAT LIE.
@KdamSamout
@KdamSamout Жыл бұрын
@@shadowblitzo123 shxt the f up South Vietnam at those time was still khmer's under the control of the Vietnamese ruler , with your point then the Vietnamese essentially are han Chinese .
@mariasanchezm.364
@mariasanchezm.364 3 жыл бұрын
I never heard , about this .
@danemon8423
@danemon8423 3 жыл бұрын
well it was the base of indochina war
@notapplicable2u
@notapplicable2u 8 ай бұрын
No one is paying attention to the way this video manipulates your emotions. The audio: the narrator reads historical events as if they were merely a list of objects to be expelled from his mouth. There is no baseline humanity in his pitch. The background music: is needlessly circular and eerie. Recount facts with neutrality and verbal accuracy. These things matter. Finally, there is no critical analysis or insight provided by this account. We do not learn the emotional context of the key historical relationships and thus we learn NOTHING. Questions: how did the southern Vietnamese become Catholic? What were they before? What was the role of religion in all of this mess? And, how do nations use or do not use religion as a tool of psychological conquest and domination? How do people come to have the religions they have? Is it because the religions are right? An idea: a religion can contain precepts and claims that, if properly inspected by its adherent, are in fact untrue and invalidate a religion altogether.
@taysikuu1748
@taysikuu1748 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Germany !!
@marcusloo575
@marcusloo575 3 жыл бұрын
Haha
@clarkstrange2142
@clarkstrange2142 3 жыл бұрын
Kaiserreich fan?
@phillipblake6931
@phillipblake6931 Жыл бұрын
Thank you France 🇨🇵❤
@kurochigo
@kurochigo Жыл бұрын
Theyre worse
@user-NoomieGaion
@user-NoomieGaion 4 ай бұрын
​@@kurochigo Without German Vietnam is still named indo-Qin.
@ianchan9670
@ianchan9670 3 жыл бұрын
It is a sad history
@angkhoanguyen6114
@angkhoanguyen6114 5 ай бұрын
@@christophe36000 French contributions were for themselves, not for Vietnamese, Laos and Khmer. That's why the French earned their defeat at Dien Bien Phu 1954.
@hermannboyen5392
@hermannboyen5392 3 жыл бұрын
Vietnam before 1858 was also a hermit kingdom
@bourbon369
@bourbon369 3 жыл бұрын
and vietnam after 1975 is a bullshit
@TrapMusicMixer
@TrapMusicMixer 3 жыл бұрын
@@bourbon369 better than some country who can not unite
@briannguyen0419
@briannguyen0419 3 жыл бұрын
@@bourbon369 and can you imagine how worse than bullshit to the oppressive regime and its sheep’s that dropped the weapons, stripped all their military uniforms and ran for their lives.
@vinhlong7347
@vinhlong7347 3 жыл бұрын
@@bourbon369 South Vietnam was a bullshit regime, only 29% of population living in urban area but always boast about the only beautiful city of Saigon
@jessvo
@jessvo 3 жыл бұрын
@@vinhlong7347 STFU
@MrRoscojones1
@MrRoscojones1 11 ай бұрын
The Viets have resisted any attempts of subjugation going back well beyond the Mongols. They don’t appreciate that kind of mess!
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog 11 ай бұрын
Exterminated Indigenous Champas people wanna be friend with you
@sgt_slobber.7628
@sgt_slobber.7628 11 ай бұрын
The French might’ve been ‘EVIL’ But Dang they make Awesome cuisine!!!!! LOL!!!!!;);)🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷
@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373
@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373 2 ай бұрын
Yanks are worse
@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373
@michellepeoplelikeyoumurde8373 2 ай бұрын
Yanks are worse
@thaikim9903
@thaikim9903 Жыл бұрын
Vietnam French colonized centuries TU DUC AND HAM NGHi GIA LONG KING OF VIETNAM FRANC COLONIAL BEFORE IN VIETNAM COUNTRY
@user-km3mj7vo7u
@user-km3mj7vo7u 2 ай бұрын
😕 in repeat
@charlrun
@charlrun 9 ай бұрын
Siam was weakness.
@PopsKrispy-ph9de
@PopsKrispy-ph9de Жыл бұрын
4,000 yrs 🏴 khong giao" sharply blames on pedestrians *no friendly* none membership*nor applicants
@renzo6490
@renzo6490 11 ай бұрын
The motive for colonization was profit. Politics and militarization directed by the already rich and greedy which led to great misery that spanned the centuries.
@lepetitchat123
@lepetitchat123 Жыл бұрын
Whatever happened to the French ideals of" liberte egalite fraternite? What a bunch of hypocrites.
@CitronCassis
@CitronCassis 11 ай бұрын
As you are very smart, you must have seen that the emperor Napoleon III is mentioned, meaning that the Republic was taken down by an authoritarian guy. Story of many republics since Athens and the Roman Republic.
@somwangphulsombat8468
@somwangphulsombat8468 Жыл бұрын
Siam was survived.
@tooshy8099
@tooshy8099 Жыл бұрын
Siam was afraid to fight unlike Vietnam
@savoirfaire8979
@savoirfaire8979 11 ай бұрын
The French never “conquered” Vietnam. They invaded and occupied until they were forced out. The French lost their war. So did the U.S.
@wavereader8847
@wavereader8847 11 ай бұрын
I think they did but I would contest that it was until 1950 since the Japanese took over Vietnam overnight during WWII.
@Gb-be9bn
@Gb-be9bn 9 ай бұрын
By that logic none of the country that exist today has ever been conquered because they eventually forced their conquerors out
@kellybrown8638
@kellybrown8638 11 ай бұрын
The sheer arrogance of the Catholic Missionaires amazes me. They routimely destroyed native cultures as if it did not matter
@cudanmang_theog
@cudanmang_theog 11 ай бұрын
Vietnamese Confucian colonizers destroying indigenous Champa so well that no one could remember it. Racist White liberals: ofc they deserved
@andyoudidagoodjob4600
@andyoudidagoodjob4600 11 ай бұрын
Now you can shut up
@vinhvu5986
@vinhvu5986 8 ай бұрын
The Vietnamese emperor butchered and skinned them alive, 10,000 people died in Catholic massacres and 7,000 people died in the Van Than movement (anti-Catholic movement after the surrender of the Nguyen Dynasty). The massacres of the Van Than movement were so terrible that Ham Nghi (the Vietnamese king with anti-French ideology) had to declare him innocent.
@BOSIBA
@BOSIBA 7 ай бұрын
There's no such fucking thing as Vietnam and Indochina, it's Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam become Indochina.
@user-id3br6xx5e
@user-id3br6xx5e 19 күн бұрын
It was Vietnam (Tonkin and Annam), Cambodia, and Cochinchina becoming Indochina in 1887; later its territory was expanded.
@BOSIBA
@BOSIBA 19 күн бұрын
@@user-id3br6xx5e there was no Vietnam prior, they became Vietnam at the expense of the Cambodian, the French after loosing the war with Annam ceded Cambodian territory to the vietnamese in 1949.
@user-id3br6xx5e
@user-id3br6xx5e 19 күн бұрын
No, you're wrong. Vietnam existed as a country for a very long time before the French took it over in 1883. The Vietnamese state first appeared around the 7th century BC and existed until being annexed by Nanyue and then China, after that Vietnam gained independence from China and existed independently from 939 to 1883 (except for the period when it was ruled by Ming China, 1407-1428). Even when France ruled, Vietnam still existed as a protectorate that included Annam and Tonkin. The entire area that is today Southern Vietnam, including the Mekong Delta, became part of Vietnam in 1757 after a period of Vietnamese expansion and Cambodia's cessions of territory here, in which Saigon became part of Vietnam in 1698. Not to mention many Vietnamese (and Chinese) migrated here hundreds of years ago and the Vietnamese become the main ethnic group here including the Mekong Delta hundreds of years ago. In 1949, France returned Southern Vietnam (Conchinchina) being a separate French colony at that time to Vietnam, the colony of Conchinchina was never part of Cambodia lol. Let me guess, you are Cambodian, you lack knowledge about Vietnam. A sad historical fact for you, Cambodia was once a vassal of the Nguyen lords and Nguyen dynasty (Vietnam), Cambodia was even part of Vietnam from 1834 to 1847. By the way, Vietnam has never officially called itself "Annam".
@BOSIBA
@BOSIBA 19 күн бұрын
@@user-id3br6xx5e bullshit, there's no Vietnam until the early 19 century.
@BOSIBA
@BOSIBA 19 күн бұрын
@@user-id3br6xx5e you're full of shit, the Vietcong in the south can all trace their lineage to the north within this 100 years, old maps can tell you a lots about the changing situation and countries land border. Cambodia has never been a vassal to the Vietcong, however they did kidnap Prince and princess to use as ransom at one periods of time, but our kingdom and royalty remains, a superpower and an empire built great monument and building, you Vietcong left nothing, that alone speak volumes about the people's and their kingdom.
@coolb359
@coolb359 11 ай бұрын
Vietnamese "empire" lmao.
@user-id3br6xx5e
@user-id3br6xx5e 20 күн бұрын
It was. Don't underestimate this country.
@AcaNik1973
@AcaNik1973 3 ай бұрын
Damn western greed :(
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