the french way of thinking 🤔💭 | Top 5 Best Things About French Mentality & French Culture

[@donfzic7471]

Point #2 : Il faut travailler pour vivre, mais il ne faut pas vivre pour travailler. We have to work to live, but we don’t want to live only to work. 😉

[@JordanPatrick]

Merci d'avoir écrit cette expression en français! Je savais pas comment le dire correctement ^^

[@arthurbossuet3977]

One of my favorite things in France is food :) I don't think you can talk about the French culture without mentioning the relationship that French people have with their food. Lunch is a social event. Diner is a form of art. Apero is a philosophy :)

[@JordanPatrick]

I agree, these are all great points! :) There are so many great qualities in the French culture...and I didn't want to include food in this video, because I plan to make a WHOLE VIDEO ABOUT FRENCH FOOD!! :) Stay tuned for that one;)

[@donfzic7471]

I agree 😋

[@bastouneuroatypicmusic6885]

As a french, i prefer italian food !

[@ChachouLP]

@@bastouneuroatypicmusic6885 as a French I prefer by far French food :)

[@jetaddicted]

I disagree, Apero is not a philosophy but a religious duty, those that do not respect it end up in a boiling cauldron underground. Or they should.

[@sharonhoang]

Love the video! Universal Healthcare is what we really need in America.

[@JordanPatrick]

Thanks!!! YES I AGREE 100% !!!!!!

[@m.j.vazquez4720]

lol no

[@AkamaiOkole]

Universal healthcare is available to all RESIDENTS, not only citizens. Huge difference important to us expats.

[@marcocisneros8755]

Wow I definitely like the French lifestyle, Live the present

[@JordanPatrick]

Totally agree! No better place than the now!

[@elviraarcangelo5364]

Mentality is s different in Paris and the province..

[@JordanPatrick]

Yes I agree! After living 4 years in Paris and 3.5 years in the province, so I have a good sense of both sides ^^...this video was more relative to the rest of France, because Paris is it's own culture 😂

[@lyudmilakutsenko7045]

The best cuisine, the best etiquette, the best fashion, the best makeup.

[@JordanPatrick]

La vie est belle !

[@lyudmilakutsenko7045]

@@JordanPatrick merci.

[@tatsumaki9397]

Best frangrance

[@dela354]

Unoversal healthcare is something you find in most part of Europe. At least in the EU countries.

[@sairanasir3722]

Sir, thanks you explain very well. 😊

[@JordanPatrick]

Thanks for watching and for your comment! :) Glad to hear you enjoyed it ^^

[@manonbtravels6343]

"you have the memory of a goldfish" haha felt attacked, great video ! :)

[@JordanPatrick]

HAHHA 😂 Do you guys have an expression like that in France too? I know you do, but I can't remember! 😅

[@julientardieux]

@@JordanPatrick That's basically the same : avoir une mémoire de poisson rouge.

[@oakhauser]

I am a french living close to Paris, I have to say you seem to know your subject well, you're not faking 🇨🇵🇺🇸

[@bettydoughtery3920]

Agree

[@Tripper111]

Dang Dude, I am thinki9ng about selling my California Home and moving to France... LOL, I do like their set up much better.

[@JordanPatrick]

Oh that's an exciting idea! If you're from California, you don't know how spoiled you are with good weather until you move away! I know that from experience haha. If you love warm weather and sun, I would recommend moving to the south of France! ^^

[@philippebeillan6962]

welcome. avec l esprit libre bienvenue dans notre culture bien manger bien vivre et tranquille soit le bienvenu

[@SaraMKay]

“Every man (of the world) has two countries (father lands), his own and France." -Thomas Jefferson Was popular, when France was very popular back in the day. I live next to France, can’t say I’m a fan BUT what Napoleon did for Europe I very much appreciate: you said it in the video also: secularization! The total separation of any church and state - amazing! And the though bloody and brutal revolution gave us the separation of powers: legislative, executive and judiciary. That’s what your founding fathers brought to the USA from Europe and built into the beloved by so many constitution. Nowadays the free press is sometimes considered the fourth power of the state. Currently all those amazing things that came out of the enlightenment of humanity and was fought for so fiercely with blood, toil, sweat and tears, mainly blood by so many and kept preciously guarded as it deserves, is totally under attack and I very much fear for the enlightenment, maybe because it was “just imported” rather than bitterly fought for in the USA - may fall. Get destroyed by the MAGAs. Trampled to death. It’s a nightmare that soon will likely become gruesome reality. Sorry for the gloom, guys, France is great! Enjoy Savoir-vivre and have a good time ✌️

[@pwp8737]

So American to be totally ignorant of what socialism is. France is a capitalist country. It has a social democratic character financed by high personal and corporate taxes that provide universal social programs. It is not "socialistic".

[@JordanPatrick]

You have a point, I should have said "democratically governed by socialist parties" although one can argue that ce qui governe un pays represente le pays dans ses vues politiques quand même non ?

[@saderangetekdebeat6550]

Obviously bro we dont live for work cause even if you work a lot with our pay rate its just not worth it 😂 so better to have a bit less money and more free time xD Merci et oublies pas ont dit Chocolatine ;)

[@JordanPatrick]

I totally agree! Especially in this moment while I'm working for the Paris Olympics and not paid more when they add another day of work so working now for the same pay for 6j/7 10h per day! (It's an American company so I'm experiencing this in real time!)

[@cmimi4134]

Point #4 : A funny critique : ´´ You’re handsome with a cap 🧢, but with a beret, you’re even more handsome. ‘´😉👍 You’re right, the constructive critiques are good advices.

[@JordanPatrick]

Haha really!? I bought it online for fun to see how it looked...but think it looks a llittle silly on me. If it looks good, maybe I'll wear it more often lol ^^

[@cmimi4134]

Sérieusement , un beau béret ou une belle casquette, c’est très beau !

[@morethanparisinfrance9289]

Interesting take on the critiquing. I'm from the Caribbean and we're neither over enthusiastic like the stereotypical American nor extra critical like the French/Germans. It was alarming at first but you know what they say, if you can't beat them? Join them!

[@JordanPatrick]

Thanks for your comment and it's cool to hear your point of view as a Caribbean! You must have a great balance then because sometimes Americans and French take things to the extreme with emotions, but it keeps life interesting 😅😂 . I think positive critiquing is great for improvement, but of course in a respectful and encouraging way :)

[@mariefromtheislands8758]

I agree with what you say. The first two or three years living in France I was chocked as well but after a while it became normal. So yeah I joined them but when I go back home to see my parents I try to zip it in front of other islanders in order to avoid the “ Marie tu as changé...”

[@morethanparisinfrance9289]

@@mariefromtheislands8758 Ohm goodness! Same hahahaha my dad says "This isn't France, don't correct me when I'm speaking" which I now find to be completely absurd! loool

[@morethanparisinfrance9289]

Hahaha loved the hat switch!

[@JordanPatrick]

haha I ordered that French hat online hoping it would look good on me, but I'm not so sure how I feel about it haha...very retro which can be cool, but not for an indoor video ^^ ;)

[@brianjelly1824]

At the end of your video, the songs 🎵 🎶 are composed and sung by Mylène FARMER, I love this French woman singer.👩‍🎤

[@JordanPatrick]

Oh that's awesome! I'm so glad you were able to recognize it ^^!

[@Naranekful]

its Alizé ^^ not Mylène Farmer =)

[@ChachouLP]

The singer is Alizée but Mylène Farmer and Laurent Boutonnat written songs for her ;)

[@desert_atlas]

Great video man ! Just discovered you some days ago and I really like your channel, continue comme ça t'assures ! 👍

[@JordanPatrick]

Thanks for your comment and encouraging words! :) J'ai commencé ma chaîne pendant le premier confinement pour m'occuper à la maison et ça s'est devenu ma nouvelle passion de créer des vidéos donc je continue d'en faire chaque semaine depuis le début mars! ^^ Bienvenue sur l'aventure!

[@desert_atlas]

@@JordanPatrick C'est cool que t'ai réussi à tirer quelque chose d'aussi positif du confinement ! Oui j'ai vu ton planning de vidéos, j'aime bien l'idée de sortir une vidéo en anglais et une en français, je vais suivre ça régulièrement, content d'être là en tout cas ^^

[@charlenejohnson6632]

Raisef by acfrench grandmere!! Food perfection class style 😅

[@jeanfrancoisdetaille]

Good point I am French and lives in the US for 30 years, it reminds me a few things

[@JordanPatrick]

Oh great! Thanks! I still have a long way to go before I reach that much time here in France, but I'm almost at 10 years!

[@mandorlap8091]

Gosh I so speak the same language like you... it’s comforting to see that. When I moved to the States I was surprised to hear all the parents saying ‘Great job!’ to their children all the time. Encouragement is beautiful but there is a limit:)) and the perspective towards health care in France is honestly wonderful. And-I can’t help but say that you’re really doing a great job btw!:)) Melange of American and French culture! When I first told my New Yorker husband that the meal he cooked was ‘not bad’, he got so upset, whereas I was actually complimenting him:)) Now I have learned to say ‘awesome job’ in America! I love life! 🥂🥂 thanks again for the video!

[@JordanPatrick]

Thanks for your awesome comment! ^^ I love hearing about experiences of people moving abroad and the culture shocks that come along with it! That's so funny about your husband's "pas mal" dinner hahah I can totally imagine that happening and him being like "only not bad!?!?" hahaha sooo true here and I sometimes feel the same about wanting to praise things that are genuinely good and not only say "pas mal", that's not enough credit sometimes! So happy to see you enjoyed this video and hope you like some of my other French culture videos! (Je fais des vidéos en français aussi^^)

[@marcusaureliusfilius3955]

a man wearing a hat indoors is a huge no-no. Men today, especially US ones, don't seem to know it. Inside churches, huge no-no

[@paoloernesto2591]

Très bien ! Mais il y a le revers de la monnaie. USA, hard working culture, still leads the world (not by chance). Parisians, très criticals, and très touchy (love to complain, hate to listen). Universal healthcare is expensive and the bill comes in high taxes.

[@SaraMKay]

You know that it’s a “myth” resp. totally false in fact that goldfish have bad memory, right?!? Please do yourself the favour- also your mind maybe blown in the process (as a bonus) - and look it up. There’s a video for example on KZbin about two scientists, who trained a goldfish to DRIVE himself in a mobile aquarium around a room to get to treats, also solve a labyrinth and so on. Goldfish are amazing animals, you’re welcome.

[@mastochabou62]

Quality and variety of food.

[@katialefloch7271]

Healthcare is not sustainable. And nurses cant buy enough food.

[@synkaan2167]

Well sadly our healthcare system is deteriorating due to profit-driven neoliberal policies, impacting public hospitals, staff, and reimbursements. Even before the covid crisis, nurses and doctors had protested to denounce the dire situation and lack of resources but Macron chose to respond with gas tear and batons. And the covid crisis further exposed these shortcomings, we even witnessed nurses resorting to using garbage bags for protection. So if the French healthcare system was once the best or one of the very best in the world it's definitely not the case anymore.

[@mariaserra7799]

You forgot to mention the baguettes 😂

[@JordanPatrick]

Haha I should do a video all about the French cuisine culture and that would definitely include baguettes!

[@mariaserra7799]

@@JordanPatrick Yes!!!!!!!

[@iparipaitegianiparipaitegi4643]

Article 1: The French Republic ensures freedom of conscience. She guarantees the free exercise of religions. Art. 2: The Republic does not recognize, pay salaries to, or subsidize any religion. (Bill of 1905 organising the separation between State and Church)

[@katialefloch7271]

As a reminder, many catholic schools (sous contract) are subsidized by the government. Complete hypocrisy

[@lorimiller2369]

I like how the French appreciate art. Like everyone, not just people who go to art school. It seems like a part of their culture (ingrained) and not an add-on.

[@JordanPatrick]

Great observation and yes I totally agree! I love when I hear French friends of mine say they are going to a museum exposition on the weekend, like a normal Saturday/Sunday activity they do regularly ^^😍

[@brianharrington9802]

So with healthcare you have the right to the goods and services of another person? Glad the French like it, hope we never see it in the US. Y

[@JordanPatrick]

I'm sorry but I have to ask how you came up with "goods and services from another person"? Everyone has fundamental rights to social security which covers a portion of medical expenses in France, and the remaining costs are paid by your mutuelle (work health insurance). PS: In France, all employers are obliged to offer their employees work health insurance, unlike in the States where that's just a perk/advantage and never offered to part-time employees.

[@brianharrington9802]

@@JordanPatrick Like you said all employers are obliged to offer health insurance. Employers are forced to comply. Your right maybe goods and services wasn't the right wording, force or compulsion by the government to participate in a government program would have been more appropriate. Don't care for being forced into anything, would like it much better if it was voluntary with the ability to opt out and not pay in. American's prefer to take care of themselves.

[@Just4Growers]

@@brianharrington9802In the US are you not compelled to lock your guns when not in use?

[@brianharrington9802]

@@Just4Growers Kind of defeats the purpose? But accept for the weapons I use to defend my home they are under lock and key, the others are in a case that requires a 3 digit code and can be retrieved quickly. Yes we try and be as safe as possible.

[@felicitasojanola5760]

Thank you for sharing this information...Hoping one of this day I can go there ....I'm starting to learn french culture and basic language

[@JordanPatrick]

That's good to hear that you're taking some initial first steps towards your dream of living in France! Keep up the hard work!

[@artnodulot1525]

tu deviens vraiment français haha mais pour la critique grrr j ai des gites et je préfere les americains comme hotes .si tu te donnes du mal ils disent merci .les français c est les plus durs quoique tu fasses il y en a beaucoup ou c est jamais assez bien .genre une toile d araignée et tu prends 3

[@JordanPatrick]

AHH je comprends ta raison là...je connais quelques françaises qui ne sont jamais contentes LOL c'est trop lourd des fois ^^

[@anthonybeaulieu9820]

X. I adore French culture, but these 5 points are complicated. As a Franco-American, #2 and #4 are fine, but the rest, meh.

[@JordanPatrick]

Ah cool a fellow compatriot, in almost both cases! I'm waiting the response of my French nationality (very long process😅). I must say I'm surprised with your options of #2 and #4 being your favorites of the 5! (well not surpsied at #2 because that's high on the list because everyone loves to relax and enjoy life ^^)

[@anthonybeaulieu9820]

@@JordanPatrick Thanks for replying Jordan. I’m praying for good fortune on your French nationality. Btw I am also from SoCal but recently moved to AZ.

[@ChachouLP]

@@JordanPatrick you asked for French nationnality ?

[@nikkir5527]

Anyone if taking their time includes waiting over a month to hear a text back? And always being the one following up otherwise they’ll forget. There’s this French guy that behaves like this to me

[@Leila2023_]

hmmm interesting. I agree with what you are saying. I've been living in France for about 6 years. You are picking up on some interesting points. Well done.

[@JordanPatrick]

Thank you! Ohhh cool, we are in a similar boat then! Where in France have you been living?

[@Leila2023_]

@@JordanPatrick I was in Ile de France for 6 years but now we have moved to the countryside near to Lyon, it's a different world here but also unmistakably France. I really like the point you make about the critique culture making things better... I 100% agree, that's why stuff is so high quality here. There's a difference between moaning and critique though, and I think sometimes we don't know which is which...

[@homecd]

Food ?

[@gudetamaminiso513]

There's a misunderstanding : in France you CAN go to a place which is state-owned showing your religion. Only civil servants working there can't.

[@emmanuelbuu7068]

Yep, confirmed. Except that you cannot cover your face.

[@lyndseyfifield]

Kinda cringe how few people understand what separation of church and state means... we REALLY need to go back to teaching civics in school. Yes, we say "in God we trust" ... religion provisions were added to the Constitution to *protect religious people and religious institutions* from corrupting interference by the federal government-not to protect the civil state from the influence of (or overreaching by) religion.

[@JordanPatrick]

I've noticed lately in the States that religion is influencing the way congress and the supreme court cast votes, in return it's imposing one's religious beliefs on the citizens. Overturning Roe v Wade is an example of this, and it's quite shocking and sad to watch from afar. Taking away what I would consider fundamental human rights through a vote which seems to be related partly to religion for me is not a separation of church and state. Here is a great example of Amy Coney Barret a supreme court member who is known to bring religion into politics, as she is questioned about that: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJzcaZebod6sers

[@lyndseyfifield]

@@JordanPatrick I hope that you will not think that I’m trying to be patronizing or condescending in this answer but the question that Amy Coney Barrett was asked was completely inappropriate and actually showed religious bigotry towards her; it is unconstitutional for a Senator to give a religious test; Americans have religious freedom to live their faith… Overturning Roe v. Wade was not a religious decision - it was a decision that returned power to the individual states to decide what they want their abortion laws to be… So in New York City a perfectly healthy mother can abort a perfectly healthy baby up until that child’s due date for no reason whatsoever - Whereas states like Florida have laws that are about as restrictive as the abortion laws in France (exceptions needed after 12 weeks). Most Europeans do not realize that the abortion laws in their countries are actually more restrictive than in most states in the United States now. They are horrified to learn that the United States joins only China and North Korea allowing late term abortion for any reason…who are the extremists? I’m a woman and I do not lack any human rights in the United States.

[@jobsvlogs2169]

super contenu, merci beaucoup

[@JordanPatrick]

Merci je vous en prie, c'est avec plaisir!

[@mastochabou62]

The conservation of historic buildings. When a building is considered of interest it is listed as monuments historique, whic implies that it cannot be destructed or transformed without control. And private owners can get subsidies to maintain them.

[@marieadriansen2925]

Merci !❤

[@gofishglobal7919]

The "In God we trust" refers to the Freemasonic God. The US is a Freemasonic country.

[@Narrcy]

Seems like fun bro I wish I could go and learn and bring back my art from another perspective. Could we chat sometimes?

[@rosalindpacana1330]

Of Course put G_D above all on the Dollar bills !

[@sarah-o9e5t]

You deserve health care - amen!!!

[@franckr6159]

And obviously a 6th one: the motto of Paris you tattooed on your arm ;-)

[@azizpunkmetal]

Depuis que tu es expatrié chez nous (et même citoyen Français depuis peu), t'arrive-t-il parfois de ne pas ou plus comprendre pourquoi il existe encore des Américains très contents de vivre aux USA et qui n'ont aucune envie de quitter leur pays ?

[@JordanPatrick]

Bonjour, merci pour ton commentaire intéressant! Je comprends pourquoi il y a des américains contents de vivre aux USA et qui n'ont aucune envie de quitter leur pays, c'est très simple: C'est leur zone de confort. Ils comprennent leur système et ne sont pas toujours ouverts au changement car c'est inconfortable et demande du dévouement et de la motivation ! PS: Nous pouvons dire la même chose des personnes en Europe qui choisissent de vivre pour toujours dans leur ville de naissance ou leur pays d'origine n'est ce pas? C'est le zone de confort!

[@artnodulot1525]

@@JordanPatrick maladroit son commentaire .chaque pays à des defauts et des qualités .il y a des choses qu on a du mal à comprendre aux usa mais on peut aussi parler de belles choses aux usa comme le fait que les americains se prennent en charge , sont courageux et valorisent la bonne humeur .et on peu parler de l enfer de la burreaucratie française surtout pour les independant et entrepreneurs

[@anneeddrief6055]

Tout est tellement juste ! Merci beaucoup pour votre analyse !!

[@paulgriffin9355]

Separation of church and state doesn’t mean separation from God the founding fathers use that word church because historically there’s been much negativity about interdenominational issues

[@JordanPatrick]

It's the separation of religion and government which used to be very prevalent in old French legislatures. Since the French revolution, all official French constitutional documents have no mention of God or religion besides stating the right to practice any religion of your choice in your private life

[@jean-marie7084]

Come to Elsass, it's the USA of France here. We work a lot, make a ton of cash and at 6:30PM we cook dinner. No socialists here.

[@JordanPatrick]

Oh Alsace!? I've always want to visit there with all the local customs and cultural events. I talked Alsace in my latest French Easter Traditions video! ^^ kzbin.info/www/bejne/mKixl5meo699bqs

[@DidierMey-ci5gs]

Sauf que Strasbourg a une maire écologiste, après deux maires socialistes. Je suis Alsacien, mais bosser comme une bête et gagner plein de cash n'est pas mon horizon, au contraire.

[@ThomasDowdyWinslett]

These are some excellent points and good reasons to enjoy living in France. I especially enjoyed the reasons why you appreciate the critiques they give. My family (who live in Alabama and Georgia) has gotten to the point that we can barely have a perspective that is different or we get crushed, shamed, intelligence attacked - it is made personal in negative ways. What I hear you saying is that the French critique out of respect for the person. It is one of the reasons that I will not be going back there once my 92 year old mother dies. I hope to be in Montpellier in April or May furthering plans to move to the area in 2022. Your videos are helping me deal with cancelled trips that would have allowed my move to France to be in 2021. Thank you for your insights and perspectives.

[@JordanPatrick]

Ah great that's so nice to hear that you can soon relate to things I'm talking about in my videos! That's the point of my channel, to connect with other people who relate to similar situations or to give insight to people wanting to learn more about living abroad and adapting to new cultures! I hope everything goes as planned for you in 2022! You have a little more time to prepare for your trip and settling in!

[@philippebeillan6962]

bienvenue dans notre France

[@davidkeys7310]

My wife in and I have decided that we are going to buy our retirement home in France (2 hours or less from Paris so that we can take the train or plane and travel Europe). $350 and renovate. We have started French lessons at the local French Language and Cultural Center (Washington, DC). We've stayed in Paris for a week but plan to rent a car and drive the country side (Northern France) once the pandemic is under control. For the next 5 years we plan to immerse ourselves in the culture and visit each year (Buy in 5 retire in 10). Your videos are very informative. Can you show more real estate (for sale), transporting cars from America to France, Becoming a citizen or obtaining a visa, towns that are near the water and Paris (2 hours)...anything we should be doing now before we retire. Thanks for the licenses, healthcare information, etc.

[@JordanPatrick]

Hi thanks for your message and that's awesome to hear that you and your wife are planning to retire in France! It's such a beautiful country and so many cultures within that will always keep you both interested to see more and more! (I'm not specialized in French real estate (yet), so I'd have to do a lot of research before releasing any information about that subject) PS: I've thought about getting into the real estate market here for internationals and have even passed my first interview in an agency...however the timing isn't the best for me at the moment as I have many projects on my plate currently ^^. I will soon be receiving dual-nationality and will have some follow up videos about the citizenship process. (My situation is different than yours however because as a working professional who's been here for over 7 years, my process is different.) (In general it takes living in France for 5 years with a visa before you're able to apply for nationality, so most likely you'll need to start with a permanent visa as a property owner...and then with time, the rest will fall into place!)

[@paulchapoy992]

Along the sea and close to Paris, I would advice you Normandy, and especially harbors such as Honfleur or Cabourg. Honfleur is a nice fishing city and Cabourg is a lively city next to Deauville (where we have the American movies festival, the equivalent of Cannes, and you can cross stars like Clint eastwood). Both are 1 hour train from Paris and arrive city center at St Lazare station, or 2 hours drive. Rouen is also a nice city but not along the sea. Normandy have very nice countryside and also a very special relationship with the States because of the D day we call débarquement. I would advice you also to learn some French. It's of course not mandatory but it will help you to communicate with people. Remember also most véhicules in France are manuals (we prefer) , and you need an adaptator for electric sets (rasors, dryers).

[@paulchapoy992]

You would also be delighted by cities in the Loire vallée (Tours), à region full of castles, close to Paris, but a bit far from the sea.

[@davidkeys7310]

@@JordanPatrick Great info. Thank You!

[@davidkeys7310]

@@paulchapoy992 Thanks, Paul. We looked at the Normandy area initially but my classmates said the weather can be brutal off the channel in the winter. My wife is from California and wants a 'warmer' climate near the ocean. We've been to Paris and I learned after burning my wife's blow dryer and knocking off the power in my hotel room that I need an adapter. I starting taking French in December...or should I say...Je suis un étudiant français. J'ai commencé les cours en décembre. Nous avons 5 ans avant d'acheter notre maison! Merci

[@joshuataylor9385]

Are you working there? How much do Americans earn there

[@JordanPatrick]

Hello! Yes I'm working here, but salary isn't based on your nationality, it's based on your job and experience like everywhere else!

[@christianfrommuslim]

In America the goal was separation from an official state church - not separation from God.

[@JordanPatrick]

I understand what you're saying and I agree there was a reform in American history where Church and State were separated, and in French culture there is a clear separation and concept called "la laïcité". Here's more information about the differences between the US and France when it comes to this topic!: 🎈Every country has its own principles of secularism. In France, it's part of a long, historic battle against religious influence on laws and government. The French secular state, or "l'Etat laïque", doesn't promote any one religion or discourage any - as long as the beliefs and practices don't interfere with the State or with other citizens’ rights. Because of its commitment to total separation of religion and state, though, it means that overt religious activities and symbols are banned in public spheres - that includes public schools, public service offices, and public areas. This distinguishes it from other models of church-state separation, such as in the United States. In the U.S., the Constitution prohibits religious tests for government offices and the passage of laws that prevent people from exercising religion freely. The U.S. Constitution, however, does not prohibit people, including members of government, from expressing religious sentiment in the public sphere. French laïcité, however, makes a sharp distinction between public and private spheres and attempts to keep religious expression out of the public one. I hope this was a little more informative for you to understand what I meant by separation differences in France compared to the US! Hope you have a great day and thanks for showing interest in this topic! ^^😊

[@camembertdalembert6323]

what if you are an atheist ? You are forcing people to pronounce a pledge of allegiance referring to a deity they don't believe in. Is that freedom ?

[@mightybygrace.]

I firmly believe that if Christians don't mark the territory some other beliefs will occupy the gap. Say Jesus is real and is the only way to everlasting life , wouldn't you want to share something that tastes great :)

[@mightybygrace.]

using Christianity as a front for the ruling class is happening also in Austria :) The dude with the moustach used it too to get christian supporters when he wasn't searching for artifacts in Egypt :)

[@mightybygrace.]

most if not all the founding fathers were not Christ followers. "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."" - John 8:32

[@JordanPatrick]

Can we agree that there are thousands of religions/denominations in the world, and most people practicing a certain religion believe that their religion/denomination and their God(s) are the only true scripture and way the world came to be? How can we be sure that one's religion is the truth, and all else is false? For me personally, I don't believe that we as mere humans have the right or capacity to preach a religion as being the "one true religion" because we can never truly understand higher powers that are above our humanness. Religions are great at installing moral values, but if they teach to judge others' religious beliefs (which some do), I prefer to support others who practice whichever religion they please without judgement and continue my own personal life path with moral values and hope to receive the same nonjudgmental respect. That was a very interesting conversation to start the day, thanks for sharing!

[@mightybygrace.]

@@JordanPatrick well we got free will and reason to be able to find the Truth, there is only one way to the truth and everlasting live and that is Jesus Christ. BTW your ignorance tells, 99% of the religions do not accept the possibility of resurrection or of an after life, my advice to you is: think, have a nice day.

[@eduardom1950]

What about l’obsession anti-américaine?

[@JordanPatrick]

J'essaye d'éviter ce genre de personne bein sûr LOL...mais c'est vrai qu'il y a des gens qui détestent les américains et ça me déçoit :(... ce n'est pas juste de regrouper tous les citoyens d'un pays centré sur la haine :/

[@artnodulot1525]

@@JordanPatrick plutot rare je pense qu il ne faut pas confondre ne pas aimer les americains et critiquer la societe americaine .les français font la meme chose avec leur propre pays .tout comme beaucoup d americains deteste le socialisme sans detester les français

[@mchess6141]

Je dirais que ce sont les élites américaines (politiques, business) que les Français n'aiment pas. A ne pas confondre avec le peuple (les américains sur qui le pouvoir des élites s'exerce ! )

[@dezafinado]

It's a complex and an art-form.

[@ChachouLP]

Eduardo M , In the US you'll see some American hating some French ... it's the same everywhere

[@kevinweber5129]

Hi Jordan, two comments on the separation of Church and State. 1. "In God We Trust: didn't become the official motto of the country until 1956. Around that time it was added to paper bills, but was on sometime before. 2. My mom grew up Lutheran in Wisconsin in the 1940's. She told me once that they didn't have Prayer in school because the German-American Lutherans and the German-American Catholics couldn't agree on a common Prayer. I think nationally back in the 1800's there was less Religion in government because there were still many doctrinal differences between Protestant denomination and of course Catholics (many of which were viewed as un American for worshiping the pope). Not that the US was certainly overwhelming Christian. I think as their is more of an agnostic culture Conservative Christians became much more militant in the 70s and 80's in trying to force it on everyone here.

[@JordanPatrick]

Thanks for your comment and sharing that information! That's very interesting to see how history changes over time. Present day USA and France are very different in this regard as there are still many "Christian" crossovers in government in the States. That's exactly what I meant when God is said in the pledge of allegiance, written on money, and the US President is sworn into office on a BIBLE. This can't be seen as a separation of religion and government. It's true that America has a big conservative community and church and state are more disconnected than other various countries around the world...but compared to France, it's still very much connected. In public schools it is becoming more and more separate, but we still see hints of religion throughout state justice. Thanks for sharing and participating in this interesting topic of discussion! I love these kind of talks!

[@wtfmomentsingaming]

Personally, I love to be free. The USA is the place where you get to wear whatever you want. Religious liberty. It’s our right.

[@JordanPatrick]

Yes I agree freedom is an important right! Citizens are also free in many countries around the world to wear whatever they want, practice any religion they want. Those are all personal rights you have in France as well in your personal life. It's only state owned buildings where it's a neutral space or respect to not impose a personal belief on others. A big difference between "freedom of press" here in France vs US is that in the US you have total freedom which includes the right to harm people with your words and in the press whether or not it's a false accusation or the truth. Here it's not legal to print fake news that doesn't have true proof. That's why in the States you'll often see tabloids with "celebrity gossip" which is regularly false and harmful to their reputation or mental health. You don't see that kind of press in France because A. they don't care, and B. it's not legal to print fake non-credible articles, unless it's for comedic purposes. For that reason I'd say I prefer the French freedom of press specifically because it's more facts-based even if it's not as free as the US in that regard.

[@knucklehoagies]

The downside with France's socialistic policies is it makes it a lot harder to start or own a business. In turn, it De incentivizes innovation which is why most French people tend to be complacent in their trade for most of their lives and changing careers or deciding to start some big investment or passion is quite rare. Plus if the government decides to become corrupt, there isn't much you can do since it's the same hand that feeds you so you're kind of forced to be at their mercy. (The dreaded French Bureaucracy) I think the plus side to it is that it's the reason why the French tend to be more humble and less materialistic than Americans. Plus, the French don't rely heavily on their jobs to define themselves the way Americans do. Which I respect greatly. So there are pros and cons to both.

[@JordanPatrick]

Yes I think you nailed it on the head with this description! There are definitely some positive and negative sides to doing business in France, and I agree it can be de-incentivizing for individuals to start a company in France because of the high taxes for employees and businesses in general. I have a few entrepreneurial friends who have been working their butts off to afford to stay in business, so I've definitely seen that! I also enjoy how in France someone's occupation doesn't define them, because it's more of a personal subject, whereas in the States it's somewhat of a status and can cause some unnecessary judgement. You brought up some very good points! Thanks for the comment!

[@gofishglobal7919]

Free anything costs money and is also paid for by the taxes taken from citizens. If this did not put the nation at risk of being ripped off by infiltrated politicians, I might be a little more open to it all. French get millions upon millions of dollars from tourists. If it didn't, French would be an extremely poor place.

[@gofishglobal7919]

Free anything costs money and is also paid for by the taxes taken from citizens. If this did not put the nation at risk of being ripped off by infiltrated politicians, I might be a little more open to it all. French get millions upon millions of dollars from tourists. If it didn't, French would be an extremely poor place.

[@jetaddicted]

Actually, regarding your point three, there are (as always in France) exceptions to the rule: if you go East, in Alsace Lorraine, you will see crucifixes in class. Likewise if you go to a private school (those are often run by religious congregations, mine for instance was lycée Saint Michel, obviously christian, although the faith related class was reduced to the bone: 2h per week and optional).

[@jenniferpolloni321]

Really the pledge of allegiance is perfect

[@dream-67]

You should come to the UK - health care is completely free on the National Health Service here unlike in France where you do pay a small fee.... The exception being dental care where you do pay a small fee for a visit to the dentists...

[@JordanPatrick]

I'm sure the healthcare in both UK and France are very similar...it's free here if you are working because you get reimbursed by social security and health insurance. I've visited doctors, eye specialists, xrays (for an accident I had), dentists, chiropractors, covid tests and I was fully reimbursed on most occasions. I think I had to pay a co-pay of 37€ for the xrays but I expected that for such a big operation ^^

[@dream-67]

@@JordanPatrick I think you're the first person I've heard of say they have been fully reimbursed for almost everything on the French health system; normally I hear people say they were occasionally not reimbursed or not reimbursed in full, most recently on the NotEvenFrench KZbin channel I think Rosie said something about that, so you must be doing well!

[@AncientVirgin]

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[@JordanPatrick]

Thanks for watching :) !