The Frostlands - Frostpunk Lore Tour

[@Drizztbc]

One of my favorite games I discovered while in lockdown 2020. Can’t wait to hear of the fate of New London in the sequel

[@LoreTours]

Same here, feel like the Frosty apocalypse is such a great setting that, apart from Frostpunk and Snowpiercer, so few things cover

[@Ezra411st]

I don't really think anything besides those two actually cover the "what if cold was everything" kind of snowy apocalypse

[@cianmulvey5552]

​@@LoreTours The Long Dark does a great icy apocalypse

[@mdfan77]

Tbh I preffered the long dark in it's early stages when it really felt like you're just a random guy struggling to try to life for a few more days and maybe die with honour when the whole world has already ended.​@@cianmulvey5552

[@pappi8338]

The sequel is amazing!

[@lionelwhiskerknot]

I'm surprise more settlements didn't pop up near geothermal faults especially underground. These would give a lot of cover from the storms and warmth although food would remain a problem unless you could figure out how to grow underground or make fish farms below the surface.

[@Tonius126]

In the last autumn, the generator does use geothermal to use electric generation and to spread the heat through pipes.

[@lionelwhiskerknot]

@@Tonius126 Yeah, been awhile since I played but I know there was one scenario involving survivors near some hot springs.

[@dustinkissel7472]

The edge hot springs food centered ​@@lionelwhiskerknot

[@nnelg8139]

There probably are a lot more survivors than FP1 suggests, because FP2 trailer shows a ~2000% increase of population has happened in ~40 years.

[@lionelwhiskerknot]

@@nnelg8139 Good point. I'd say they were breeding like rabbits but food is short.

[@malteb.9585]

Been thinking to buy this game for a while now, but I think the mounting stress of declining resources would get the better of me. Thanks for the lore description instead!

[@LoreTours]

It certainly does get very stressful in the endgame as the resources get sparse and the demands greater. But such a cool universe

[@Cloud_Seeker]

Just so you know. There are infinite resources in the game. It is more a struggle of getting them. What you do with them. And when you do things that is the issue. I have managed to find a path that 100% work on the main campaign on normal without crossing any moral line or killing anyone. The only death is a scripted death.

[@MagiconIce]

Resources aren't really limited. Steelworks, Coal Mines and Wall Drills provide endless (not just very high amounts, really endless, infinite) amounts of the basic resources you need. The only "limited" resource are steam cores, since you can't build them yourself and you need to venture out into the frozen wasteland to find them. Why did I put it into quotation marks? Because there is an endless game mode, basically a sandbox and the frozen wasteland gets reset after each storm, so essentially you also have an infinite amount of steam cores to find. The only limitations are the rate at which you mineor gather the resources, that can turn into a problem. To run the generator constantly in anything else than the first setting or if you have multiple steam hubs and heaters in addition running, you'll need upgraded coal mines and these do cost steamcores, but are relatively cozy and warm inside lol.

[@mdfan77]

​@@Cloud_Seekerthe scripted death is the one where one person dies happy in house of healing from the hope tree?

[@Cloud_Seeker]

@@mdfan77 There is many scripted deaths in the game. That is one of them. Waiting to long on day 15 is another when a man from Winterhome shows up to push you into Act 2. Another is how to handle the Londoners thieves. If you try to catch the thieves a third time one person will die in a scripted death. You also have the propaganda center that will kill 8 people. 1 Poet, and 7 in an accident. The best way to avoid these deaths is to simply avoid taking certain policies. Like never take the propaganda center if you want those people to be alive.

[@Kerath]

There was a relic you can find, that mentions the real reason for the collapsing temperatures. It was a failed experiment of some aerosol released into the atmosphere that unfortunately happened around the time when the volcanoes exploded. The Frost is man-made :(

[@KalashVodka175]

Tbh it could be unreliable info piece, after all nothing guaranteed that even the scientists in the lore understoor the real reasons behind the Frost In fact it’d be cooler if there were a few solid hypothesis including tje aerosol one, but that is unreliable enough that we’rennot sure which one is true

[@mbos14]

I tought it was the combo between the vulcanos and the sun dimming that did it.

[@starburst98]

Maybe the aerosol would have been fine if the vulcano didn't erupt, as in, the aerosol bonded with the volcanic ash and made something even worse. And to be fair to the scientists that invented the aerosol, how the heck do you test it's effect's on volcanic ash?

[@vigigamehacker123]

Can't be, you would need every single human working together to release enough aerosol to even have a statistically significant effect on the atmosphere. Think about it, we have been releasing insane amounts of CO2 for literally over >200 years and only just realised that it was actually starting to have consequences now

[@Cloud_Seeker]

The real reason is not known and the devs have been clear that they will not explain the real reason. Maybe it is an aerosol, volcanos, sun dimming or all or none of them. It is made to not be clear because the why is not the point. It is now and how to handle it that is the point.

[@overflow7276]

Playing this game last winter amidst the ongoing energy crisis added a whole new dimesion to this chilly experience! ;D

[@LoreTours]

Taking immersion to a whole new level

[@AviShpayer]

The average surface temperature during the peak of the last Ice Age was roughly 7 to 10°C (44.6 to 50°F). Theoretically, Earth without an atmosphere would still be an average of -18°C (-0.4°F). It would be +120°C (248°F) in day time and -173°C (-279°F) in the night time, similar to the Moon.

[@mdfan77]

So frostpunk temperatures are really, really damn unrealistic? Shame... Well it's a game and big negative number go down is fun!

[@mryellow6918]

​​@@mdfan77 Alot of things can change this tho. Thick layers of cloud can block heat from the sun and huge winds like we see also drop temperatures and once all the water freezes to snow it also reflects sunlight instead of sinking the heat like the oceans do.

[@annonomeece6443]

@@mdfan77also in the lore the sun was dimming, so obviously the temps would go down

[@ufc990]

​@@annonomeece6443 Thee sun was dimming? Um, that takes a long time to happen. Like a really long time. I'd stick with the vapor or particulate clouds blocking the sun explanation.

[@annonomeece6443]

@@ufc990 idk man, it’s what the fellas at winterholme said, as well as what the notes in the observatory found.

[@F4Wildcat]

As a major fan of the frostpunk game & lore (perfect for a tv series), i say this video is extremely well done. I salute you. Now where is that subscribe button

[@LoreTours]

Thanks! And yes, apart from Snowpiercer, we rarely see the icy apocalypse trope played out in media and I'd say the Frostpunk universe is certainly unique enough to warrant a TV show

[@robertocrespoesilva4042]

You will lose a lot before you start to win, and that is ok. Once you get the hang, it's a great experience.

[@daha1214]

I love how they mock snow piercer XD

[@flintson2268]

Fun fact The sun is also dimming a bit which contributing to the global cooling

[@Meritania]

There was also a new form of gas warfare which used a potent aerosol and a comet impact in Argentina.

[@flaviomonteiro1414]

​@@MeritaniaSo, they were f*cked on multiple fronts

[@brandonfrancis1941]

Fun fact that piece of in game lore is unreliable. There's another lore bit that suggests a cloud of volcanic ash caused the diming alone. Fun fact number 2: The devs have come out and said the cause of the great winter is unknown and will remain that way. Probably because they know the fans would spend too much time poking holes in it rather than playing their game.

[@america2793]

14:53 snowpiercer XD

[@yui907]

Yess

[@11bitstudios]

Thank you! Stay frosty 🖤

[@pops7249]

Ok

[@LoreTours]

🖤🥶🖤🥶

[@ntfoperative9432]

I love Frostpunk, even though I’ve never played it. I just suck at City management games, but I love watching others play and seeing their strategies

[@RealMisterDoge]

Give it a try, I thought I was bad at them too but the main story and the scenarios I’ve played are very well balanced and have just enough challenge to keep you on the edge of your seat

[@hellblizzard8043]

Practice your strategy skill in a game under the same studio then. It's called This War of Mine and it also has daek gloomy theme.

[@ntfoperative9432]

@@hellblizzard8043 that I have played. I’m better with that kind of strategy, because it’s small. I just get overwhelmed with a city management game

[@mayhewstorm1473]

I've played so many hours of the original that even my daughter loves it. We waited forever for the sequel and it has not disappointed. Great video!

[@miklis203]

Survive the frozen wasteland? My guy, I would have succumbed attempting the walk out of old London. ^_^

[@LoreTours]

Same, temperature's not even below freezing and I'm wearing two layers of hoodies

[@connormitchell8918]

I would love to play a metro like game based in this universes

[@LoreTours]

That could be fun, a good way to expand the universe

[@jamesporquez3682]

Can't wait for the sequel where conflict and fight for oil begins

[@keepinghurry9644]

Good thing Tesla city fell

[@TheCenturion]

Just found your channel, surprised you dont have more subs and views, keep up the good work.

[@LoreTours]

Thanks friend, glad you enjoy the videos :)

[@guyunknown6224]

I’m glad I found this video , I played the heck out of this game a couple of years ago when I bought it and I just remembered falling in love with the games world and it affected how I played , I was extremely nice when compared to how others played but the way I saw it , this city I run is the last bastion of humanity and by god it will be humane and people will flourish and at the least if the furnace at the center should go out at least I wouldn’t be known as a tyrant

[@LoreTours]

Ah you successfully toed the line between chaos and tyranny, well done. Will be exciting to see what changes Frostpunk 2 brings to the world.

[@guyunknown6224]

@@LoreTours it was extremely hard and more people died than I would’ve liked but ultimately they survived the great storm and I’m extremely hyped for frostpunk 2 and look forward to a video from you covering it and its lore honestly

[@LoreTours]

@@guyunknown6224 Same here and thanks! Now we just need a release date for it!

[@greywolf9783]

13:48 ah yes... winterHELL

[@jonathanhinkel8813]

This was an entertaining watch. Good job.

[@thebronyhoodpony5627]

Never understood why they didn't find a geothermal cave and used the steam technology on the vents

[@LoreTours]

That. Is a good point

[@lelanternoscope3691]

According to the Last Autumn, the generators are partially fueled by an underground geothermal source. Think of them as a gigantic pump of hot water.

[@dragani2330]

Island 😅

[@starburst98]

If you look at the construction scenario the generator first step is digging a massive pit, so a lot of the machine is underground, it probably hooks into a geothermal system. Running the generator doesn't just make fire, it makes steam, so it has to be attached to a permanent source of water.

[@felop1187]

Apparently, the generator sites are built ontop of geothermal vents, the coal serves to pump heat out and throughout the city

[@rasmusnyqvist4734]

Was that a snowpiercer referance 14:54

[@LoreTours]

Indeed!

[@highlandertokio82]

That french train reference sounds like transartica (artic baron) connection... More than snowpiercer..

[@Lunam_D._Roger]

You do realise that Snowpiercer originated as a french comic right? It's absolutely a Snowpiercer reference, it's irrefutable.

[@highlandertokio82]

​@@Lunam_D._Roger This was before snowpiercer: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Compagnie_des_glaces French Sillmarils made the game by it, Transartica or Artic Baron, it`s much closer to Frostpunk lore than snowpiercer, in Transartica humanity is not extinct, there are settlements, cities, ports, there is trade, diplomacy, conflicts.. Tech level is much closer to Frostpunk than to Snowpiercer.. I played original game on Amiga, 30 years ago and atmosphere and lore were so deep and consuming.. Unique and fantastic game.... kzbin.info/www/bejne/bGGynICrjcR7aNE But i can agree that frostpunk reference to train lies somwhere in between two of those, snowpiercer and transartica...

[@Animesguardianangel]

@@Lunam_D._Roger You do realise that Transartica originated as a french novel right? That said It probably is a snowpiercer reference since its referred to as a Creve-niege ergo a "Breaker of the Snow"

[@edgeyaw]

Algorithm killed it with one, love the video

[@alokinzna]

Isnt it way better to just go underground ? Or stay near hot springs ? Having a shanty town above ground seems crazy to me . Does the game even have underground structures ?

[@elgrun2913]

The Children Mine town lives in mines and caves under water, and The Hot Springs are living around hot springs instead of a generator. Also, every generator is built on a shaft providing geothermal energy and gases.

[@J_Bird05]

Lore is a lil bit off such as the fall of winter home as it was able to save at most 500 people in a dreadnought but everything else is good:D

[@TheBrickMasterB]

I think the point of the video was to only touch on the 100% canon elements of the game; he kinda skipped over the details of how order and faith work and instead just skipped right to when the final storm happened.

[@justagamer6792]

thanks for the lore

[@LoreTours]

No worries friend

[@RoundHouseDictator]

Shadows point south. This game is set in the /southern/ hemisphere

[@LoreTours]

Ah really? Maybe an oversight, definitely set in the North based off all the story info we're given. Frostland locations believed to be roughly around where Iceland is

[@RoundHouseDictator]

@@LoreTours could be. Could also be a misdirect. Patagonia to Iceland is a long journey for a storm to take in a world too cold for a gulf stream. A storm from Patagonia, if following the normal wind patterns of this planet, the storm would head towards southern Africa. Iceland is a long journey for a field surgeon of the boer wars to travel. He also would more likely end up in southern Africa. Iceland would use geothermal heat, like it actually does. The great lakes region of Africa, just north of London, south Africa, has geologic rifts and coal. Also, Iceland is famous for not having many trees. The great lakes region of Africa? Full to the tits with trees. Thank you for reading, I have strong feelings on this matter

[@RoundHouseDictator]

Sorry to double post, but now I'm playing and thinking about it today. There was an event to prep for Christmas as it was late December. This time of year, Iceland's capital gets four hours of sunlight per day. In game there was an equitorial level of daylight

[@plasmaxl8626]

@@RoundHouseDictator lol yeah that seems like an oversight. maybe it takes place in southern greenland haha

[@Animesguardianangel]

The default camera angle is pointing towards the equator. If you read all the lore entries it says the storm is "Heading up from the south" and you see it appear at the top of the screen. and at one point a group of scientists tell you to "head south from here" and the new area unlocked is Above the area you just explored eg.Winterhome is North of New London, Tesla city is South of new London. So the camera is pointing to the equator by default.

[@justinstringfield571]

Saying mittens had me thinking of mitten squad 💔

[@Robogames05]

this was awesome^^ cant wait for fp2

[@LoreTours]

Same here!

[@TheFirstSpartan001]

This game looks fun, might try it.

[@LoreTours]

It's a pretty cool universe, fun when you get the hang of it.

[@BridgetKF]

You know, everyone in frost punk are really kinda... stupid. One of the best insulators in the world is snow and ice. And they are also digging in mines for coal. Areas of the mines that are played out could easily be turned into shelter, and the city itself, if they piped the heat from the generators, and there should've been multiple generators not just one, into more underground areas, as dirt and rock are also incredible insulators, they'd've saved on wood and it would've been very warm. Even during the bad blizzard where temps dropped to inhumanly horrific temps, if they were willing to hole up underground and pipe their heat down there, or even build secondary generators using things like other generators found in abandoned cities, they'd've not had half the troubles. Not to mention they could've had their hot-houses underground, which means it would've cost LESS to heat them, and using light from either well placed mirrors to bring in sunlight, or light from electricity caused by the generators, they'd've had no trouble with food. And water? Harvesting snow and ice, and filtering the water as the snow melted, they'd've had MORE than enough water. Yet in the game and lore, they never even thought of these things. So yeah, they were kinda stupid.

[@Kylephibbsky]

It is actually a little bit worse than that. Because they do bring that up. A bunch of the survivor settlements outside the generators work almost exactly like that. Geothermal caves, underground heat shelters. They're just too proud to do it.

[@guildedwings5641]

To be fair to them, i reckon a bit of it is too little too late, by the time theyre building mines most of their infrastructure is above ground and they have weeks left before the great frost, same with building secondary generators - they only have a couple months total and lack the borehole down into the geothermal vent to actually power the things to any level of effectiveness Those that survived without the generstor did so by the skin of their teeth, convicts crowding around and dying against the ships great boiler, a handful of people just able to survive around hot springs in shacks and miners huddling deep in their mines, fearing a collapse in the cold and fumes from the poor ventilation, i agree if it was planned from the start going underground would probably be a smart, if even more costly endevour, but the citizens themselves dont have the time before the storm, and the engineers constructing generators didmt have much more time to do anything but that construction.

[@System0Error0Message]

the antarctic research stations use snow and ice as insulators but also thermal regulators for their storage rooms. While it does provide insulation it doesnt help to increase the heat above 0C which is what humans need. Thats why those research stations are only partially in ice. the soviets once built gigantic vehicles to traverse the south pole. However the soviets had diesel by that time, these guys didnt.

[@RemitheDreamfox]

Great video :3

[@orbgyaj]

I think the Yellowstone super volcano might have been involved.

[@fearmasterm.m.z7139]

Considering there is tecnicly two super volcanos in the continental US I'm beetin the states fell quickly in this universe

[@xhontafaruci3445]

I just started playing this game so what the hell do you mean when you say 7 day storm to end all stoms

[@System0Error0Message]

in the campaign you get a long storm thats more than 7 days and severe. You need to stockpile lots and lots of food and coal, many thousands, and be able to house everyone in fully upgraded homes with the healthcare needed. No gameplay spoilers though on how to protect them, all i can say is you need enough coal to fully run your generator and your medical district.

[@xhontafaruci3445]

@System0Error0Message yeah It already hit me I survived though

[@System0Error0Message]

@@xhontafaruci3445 you should try builder mode and survive 3 storms without the generator

[@boburkhon_sh]

Nice video. A pleasant voice

[@LoreTours]

Thank you kindly!

[@pedroespana6281]

This is really good 👍

[@ckh7704]

12:44 where is ths clip from? pls

[@davicossamuel1911]

Is from Frostpunk 2 trailer, I don’t know which one though

[@HP-ws2vx]

Amazing video

[@franciscocesar2402]

Very well written

[@LoreTours]

Thanks!

[@james8449100]

11 bit have a Kickstarter that's not live yet for a book collection

[@nicbahtin4774]

i don't get why to go far to the north if the UK already had the infrastructure and coal deposits to build the generators in Brittan

[@DarkWindsoftheVoid55]

The politicians stonewalled preparation efforts, so it isn't unimaginable that any generator project that would upend part of the city would receive vehement rejection. Hubris, really.

[@nicbahtin4774]

@@DarkWindsoftheVoid55 Maybe they did build them, I think devs wanted to leave that possibility open. I guess we will find out in 4 months in game 2

[@20storiesunder]

There's not much coal left in the south. We've extracted most of it.

[@nicbahtin4774]

@@20storiesunder The game set in the beginning of 20th century, still plenty around

[@elgrun2913]

Many reasons. First of all the entire generator project was top secret, the ecosystems around the world collapsed while the one on the pole survived because both plants and animals were better adapted to extreame cold, also every generator had to be built on a geothermal source and also big deposits of natural gasses. Since it's a steampunk universe, people stuck with and developed steam-powered technology in most cases (instead of switching to electrical ones) and because of that almost all coal deposits in civilised countries were dug dry.

[@TOSHI-gk4xo]

Y'all gotta read firepunch manga it's like frostpunk

[@JoshKilen]

great video.

[@LoreTours]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@JustSayingitslore]

Very interesting video

[@Nomadith]

The city must survive.

[@javierruiz8576]

Wish it was like that rn

[@bradleyjm1620]

What building is that at 13:16? I don’t think I’ve seen it before

[@devrimboga8584]

Fighting Arena it was before public house

[@raphaellapointe9143]

14:55 Wait...is the game taking a jab at snow piercer?

[@narek6331]

Top 👌🏼

[@SamiKotiranta]

Frostpunk=Finland ❄️🥶❄️🥶

[@stay_foxy]

FYI, i always choose to save New Manchester

[@davidkymdell452]

I'm trying to do it on Extreme right now but it's kicking my ass. Always run out of coal no matter what I do

[@teoteous]

I hope the next game is the total opposite of the first 2 games where it is the heat and etc that's the problem.

[@eu4juke785]

is there lore like this for anno as well

[@LoreTours]

Not from what I can recall. Great games though.

[@heraadrian7764]

Electro piston motors and nuclear reactors would be more interesting.

[@r.connor9280]

Hail the Pure Metal that burns forever without flame Hail the Engineer that built Vessels to contain it's heat Hail the Doctors that save us from the Crumbling disease Hail the Reactors, The Seventh, the Third, and the Fourth Our saviors and our charges, forever.

[@arandomcommenter412]

Nuclear power is a bit far fetched

[@plasmaxl8626]

i mean, a steam core is almost the first one. essentially just a big engine. Unfortunately, they didnt have the tech or knowledge at the time to implement nuclear reactors into society

[@heraadrian7764]

@@plasmaxl8626 And the babbage logic engine has the computing power to run a spider mech-tank?

[@heraadrian7764]

@@r.connor9280 Praises of the Omnissiah on to you brother.

[@StalxD]

Frostpunk 2 can't get here faster

[@1IteleportedBread]

Very well done video…now do half life if you haven’t already done so…

[@Exothis]

Ngl thought this was a "white out survival" fake ad again at first lol

[@StudioCraftercz]

Hope rises

[@System0Error0Message]

stewart can you hear us?

[@decaprio7421]

Re.inds me if The City of Ember

[@keiroty7187]

Did someone turn the freezer up to 11

[@DioTheGreatOne]

Winnipeg: The Game

[@hughhartley6093]

Really like the story of this but it’s boring how London centric southern heavy it is

[@AnthonyDay-s1z]

It could be, insanely if true, somebody made a nuclear bomb in 1889, and unleashed a nuclear winter. But if not, it must've been some doomsday weapon.

[@elgrun2913]

You can find out later in the main scenario, that for some unknown reason the Sun is dying and starts to dim.

[@bigsquidtickler9355]

This is disturbing. Before ever watching this, I had a dream about a kind of slaughter house with conveyors of meat, I was on the conveyor, missing some of my limbs, trundling along among the meat. I managed to roll off somehow. As if alerted by my movement, all of the meat started coming alive in different shapes and forms and began wandering around searching for me, I imagine. I hid beneath the conveyor as they closed in around me. I'm glad I woke up. One day, I'll have the motivation to write a full story around the idea of it. Also, Im not going vegan no matter what my subconscious does to me, I don't scare that easy.

[@YourLocalMairaaboo]

Uh, that's quite the non sequitur.

[@youdonthavetoknowsssh8154]

The Generator's design is very dumb but it look cool and serve the gameplay very well. But hey, at least it's not some kind of train which use children to operate despite being an eternal engine

[@evanclifford4863]

I know its 7 months late but, the engine didnt require children to operate it. The issue was that because of how small (relatively speaking) the engine compartment was children were the only ones small enough to get instead of the engine to maintain/repair it. Which is something you need to do because no matter how well built **ALL* machines will break eventually, especially if its running constantly.

[@richardvaldes3959]

Plot hole. Pdople are unaware of how much coal yhefe is in yhe world. We could literally burn it for 1000 years at current rates let alone the rates of 1880s

[@anthonythompson6053]

Late reply, but an absolute dearth of coal is not the main problem of the game. Logistics will be your downfall. There are virtually endless resources around you, but your people have to build infrastructure capable of making use of those resources in extreme conditions. Your map never runs out of resources; there will be plenty of coal left in the ground when the next scavengers come across the ruins of the city :)

[@patrickempson7366]

Game doesn’t give you enough time to even get anything. Game was kinda fun but again I’m kinda over these games that make you lose constantly. I’ve lost in life enough as it is now my entertainment wants to punish me for buying the game. Or they should let us get some reliable resources from the beginning I always get stuck with a few piles of crap. Just lame

[@nokol7538]

Climate change be like:

[@Ok1n9]

Actually not to arctic! It was actually to the north. This means it could be norway where the london survivors left to.

[@elgrun2913]

It is probably the northern pole, since you meet polar bears and stuff.

[@Magus_on_Main]

As an American 🎺 I'd be dead in the ground if i rebuild no dang British (🤢) Empire 🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🎆

[@Rockadela_]

Gay

[@coulthard1984]

Great game but I can't stand the music. What were they thinking ..

[@khanjare]

what do you mean? the music in frostpunk 1 is absolutely fantastic. It's Hans Zimmer level of quality.

[@crunch.dot.73]

Wildest take ive ever heard