The Fundamental Flaws of the Sonic Rush Series

[@joeker5208]

no need to lie J, we all know that was your flowered DS

[@appleando752]

I use to own a pink DS when I was a kid. And whenever some asshat at school tried to make fun of me for it, I'd constantly snap back with "Only real men wear pink".

[@benjulc9271]

@@appleando752 You can always say it's salmon color, it's like a masculine pink.

[@omarqassas7095]

@@appleando752 man vegeta would be proud

[@TheReZisTLust]

@@benjulc9271 I refer to salmon pink as off yourself pink cause mating season

[@gouki006ishere]

J when hearting your comment: *Y U B U L I M I?*

[@El_Mince]

The one thing everybody can agree on is that Hideki Naganuma knocked it out of the park with the music

[@hanezutchins2786]

Hell yeah!

[@StitchySpooks]

Funny enough, at first I didn't even realize the composer for Jet Set Radio composed the soundtracks for the Sonic Rush games. It's one of those things you realize and have more appropriation for the composer

[@Deoxys911]

I really wish they got a lot more work (and specifically projects where their style could really shine like in Rush).

[@chesspunk489]

I actually did not like the music. I just don't like that style.

[@Bakanineinstein]

@@chesspunk489 Same... Sonic Rush is still the only Game I ever had to actually mute because of the Music... 😅

[@soraingaegis3086]

One thing that most people don't know about Blaze - she actually gets less out of her boost gauge because she moves slower than Sonic, but makes up for it with the aerial mobility as you mentioned (which makes for some pretty nice skips when you're doing a time attack).

[@soraingaegis3086]

Also, the Night Carnival boss is SUPER easy to break if you know what you're doing. I'm serious. You can beat it in about thirty seconds. And that's on Normal difficulty.

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

So she's basically Tails's replacement. God damn you, Iizuka.

[@willpow05]

@@CarbonRollerCaco iizuka??, my dude he was the one that made up the descendent origin for nega since he directed rivals 1 and 2 plus iizuka isn't the one to complain, it's akinori nishiyama

[@olyviermonteau4300]

@@soraingaegis3086 yeap, i did that time attack too.

[@rept7]

Okay, but hear me out: Blaze is really cool.

[@Momentum840]

based

[@sandudelcea6707]

Not the worst opinion

[@Joshuathegreen]

pun intended?

[@justahedgehog5079]

Why wouldn't i hear a true opinion?

[@sandudelcea6707]

@@justahedgehog5079 idk

[@Rogerregorroger]

Yeah, agreed 2d sprites would have looked nicer, I loved Advance's smooth animation. I suppose they used 3d models so they could have fancy camera angles for the cutscenes or have Blaze and Sonic move into the foreground in the levels without the hassle of drawing new sprites for that. !? I never realized Cream's cheering on Blaze when she beats up Sonic. Damn, missed joke oppurtunity. Geez, maybe I need to ask you to check my scripts for more gags in the future. Thanks for the shoutout.

[@OldBird-52]

Love your videos as well! Always room for a remaster, or DX

[@amandaslough125]

I wish more series kept with improved sprite work over meh 3D for "handheld" smaller titles. It's one of the reasons I love the Shantae series. People complain about the 'mobile' look of the more recent games, but the exceptional HD vector art seems like a great modern solution to the hand drawn pixels of old.

[@doge-pal]

Lose the nostalgia 2D glasses.

[@phil2160]

The Rush models have their own charm

[@CreativeGeoff]

I think the reason for the 3D graphics was to sell the power of the Nintendo DS, which was new at the time.

[@torrencesampson3584]

I miss when Sonic had ton of Spin offs. It felt like their was always something Sonic around :(

[@sonicmanic2556]

That's what the problem is with this sonic game drought

[@tiruliru1189]

I also miss when SEGA (both America and Japan) cared. I miss the variety Sonic had. Now we have either boost, or classic. Sonic can't live without spin-offs.

[@bshays21]

Video games in general are getting more limited overall. Less consoles out there less games.

[@alternatenican]

Team Sonic Racing exists. The problem is that people want the mainline game and not a spin-off game, so SEGA listens to them and they need to take their time on it because it takes longer than the spinoffs, and then they go out and complain about that drought thing and lose every piece of their braincells, and no premy is not one of these people.

[@D00DM00D]

Yeah, now they release a game every 4 years PleaseSEGAreleaseanewgamereleaseanewgamereleaseanewgameRELEASEANEWGAME

[@DesignDoc]

Rush Adventure might be my favorite handheld Sonic game and is just below my top 5 favorite games in the series...at least when I revisit the game to just play a few stages instead of progressing the story. This was my go-to during high school, often playing a few stages after lunch waiting for my next class to start. Some of my favorite Zones are in this game with Sky Babylon, Ghost Ship, and Coral Cave. Always loved being able to play as Blaze in this though it's kind of puzzling that they didn't add Tails or Marine as playable characters, especially the latter (as much as I dislike her) since the story is centered on her. I enjoyed the variety with the different vehicle minigames (aside from the ship) and I enjoy most of the bosses even if some of them were a bit drawn out though not nearly as much as the bosses in the original Rush. It's even kind of fun clearing out missions to get little decorations for your island, it's a nice little touch. It's got significant problems, the campaign's pacing can be pretty bad, the mandatory grinding sucks and Marine is an obnoxious character but after getting through the actual story content, I'll still find myself coming back to this game to replay a few stages and clear out a mission or two every once in a while.

[@HaxeRain]

the grinding can be a bit tedious only if you dont explore anything, the hidden islands are just so fast and easy to clear that the grinding becomes just a way to test your ability to clear them faster xD

[@TekPlayzGames]

I completely agree. Though it is in my top five. My top five Sonic games are 1: Sonic Unleashed 2: Sonic Adventure 2 3: Sonic Mania 4: Sonic Rush Adventure 5: Sonic Colors

[@CarbonRollerCaco]

It's actually NOT puzzling that Tails and Marine aren't playable in Rush Adventure considering Iizuka wants Tails to be a tech-only character (see not just SA2 and '06, but also Sonic X-the Advances and Heroes had more influence from Naka) and Marine was made to be a gag character, Tails counterpart or no. Same for Cream in Rush 1 because Iizuka sees girly girl and thinks joke character, just as he does with Amy (even though he made Amy physically STRONGER than Tails in Sonic X which is outright WRONG).

[@TekPlayzGames]

Rush Adventure is my favorite 2D Sonic game and my 2nd favorite in the series overall after Unleashed. I know it's flawed but something about it is fun and addicting, especially in comparison to trash like Forces and Lost World...

[@sandudelcea6707]

Are you twip in disguise ?

[@thisisacomment.]

Blaze the Cat is my favorite Sonic character! I wish Sega did more with her..

[@radiokunio3738]

Same

[@jaretco6423]

Same here.

[@rueblie2627]

Would be nice if they did something with any of the characters really

[@matthewmorrison3745]

Mine too 😔

[@dragonmaster3030]

@@rueblie2627 cough Silver cough

[@yourfriendlyneighbohoodpiz7683]

I respect your criticisms even if I heavily disagree with almost every one of them. The Rush trilogy is still some of my favorite games in the series, and I still love the stories in them, despite how simple and laidback they are. Also hot take: I like the bosses in the Rush games. I understand getting impatient with them, but the attack patterns still feel unique enough compared to many other Sonic bosses that I still had fun dodging them, even if they’re long. I also prefer the idea of the bosses not being cheese-able, “abuse the mercy invincibility until you kill them” bosses, for once. Same opinion for most of the Advance 2 bosses lol

[@Komodo772]

Agreed

[@soni-switch5207]

*See the title* Oh boy, this is going to be a controversial one, isn't it.

[@ctpp64]

@@ShockwaveFPSStudios yeah I will defend Sonic Colors for Wii with my life lol. Better than unleashed imo

[@snapdragonzoroark]

@@ctpp64 ohhhhh nooooooooo dude sonics day time stages were objectively better designed and less linear

[@ctpp64]

@@snapdragonzoroark i mean sure the daytime stages in both versions were really great. but the werehog, constant medal collecting, and unnecessary hub worlds kinda brought the whole experience down for me

[@chaosprogrammer2219]

@@ctpp64 the werehog isn't really bad and the medal collecting is only really annoying with most daytime stages and the last stage aside from that I actually enjoyed medal collecting, it gave me a sense of exploration like with the special stage rings in sonic 3&k and as for the hub worlds I really don't get what's the problem with them. They're small enough to get around and don't take too much time to figure out, you can never get lost in them, they really bring the game to life with the well thought out architecture and NPCs and they serve as a fun playground if you just want to mess around with stuff. I really don't see the problem with any of them.

[@undeadbatman9762]

@@ShockwaveFPSStudios I see you have came here as well Shockwave. And once again I will say that when people complain about colors, they mainly complain about the shitty story. I don't even need to explain to you how they made Sonic worse than before, tails even more useless and everything is a sitcom. If they complain about the gameplay they are mostly likely hate the blockier 2d sections (Which were boring tho). I wouldn't say colors ruined Sonic (lost world did that) though. Colors ds is just another story, that game is super underrated and at least the story is much better and has OTHER Sonic characters besides Sonic and Tails. I love the gameplay and the stomp mechanic is satisfying to me.

[@jacklazzaro9820]

I like how different the CD version of “Wrapped In Black” is than the version you actually hear when you fight the Eggmen.

[@irkenpony17]

It is? I don't think I heard em differently

[@jacklazzaro9820]

the CD version starts with an instrumental before “too black, too strong”. Other differences, you’d have to listen to them both side by side.

[@cloudshines812]

Came home from 8 hours of school Have tons of homework to do Got into a fight with friends Tired as hell And still have to do so many chores... But my day just got better with this video! Thanks J!

[@evdestroy5304]

But did you win the fight?

[@cloudshines812]

@@evdestroy5304 It was bitter drama. You know... High Schoolers being high schoolers...

[@tylerherr4288]

dont you hate it when someone says that a boost sonic game plays itself then proceeds to miss every single shortcut and time saver in the stage?

[@rickyronny4019]

Yes I do

[@jobsidian4219]

Malcolm X: "Too black .... too strong " The people who made the ost: write that down write that down !

[@naobi666]

Hideki Naganuma is a musical genius

[@kidkatanatv]

Major Flaw: Its not Remastered for the Nintendo Switch

[@dragonmaster3030]

Execpt nintendo switch is shit so how about just everything

[@theminecraft2516]

It’s insulting Back 2 Back and Wrapped in Black aren’t in Smash yet

[@kidkatanatv]

@@theminecraft2516 This

[@theminecraft2516]

@@kidkatanatv Yeah I hate how the handheld games aren’t represented in Smash

[@dragonmaster3030]

@A guy with an anime Profile Pic Because I can yeah that would be great but it's been like a decade since we've seen blaze in a main game, it would be great but I don't think they would bring back such a character outside of a spin off because well that's where blaze had more exposure and the main line games she was in weren't that good(sonic 06)

[@bwareist]

Technically it was Sonic Heroes that introduced the "Boost gameplay" with the special stages, Rush is more the first official game where that was the main focus of gameplay.

[@thelastgogeta]

Very true, but I think the focus should be on what "boost" does. If it doesn't trivialise (some) enemies or hazards while going fast... That isn't a boost in the modern context. (Heroes has a "boost" but it only works as timesave) He called the afterimages from Advance 2 and 3 "boost" a few times. Similarly, I think it is important to have a meter and to ignore slopes with "boost" In other words, Heroes is as close as can be to having boost first but never used it in Rush/Unleashed sense.

[@hanezutchins2786]

Didn't Sonic Advance 2 technically introduce the boost?

[@thelastgogeta]

@@hanezutchins2786 How so? It had afterimages when you hit max speed but it was skill based to reach that speed (not resource and command based with no regard for physics) and it didn't destroy enemies or obstacles. Almost every "boost" can be done and held by command in the air as well with the Sonic Storybook Series being a rare case which makes it ground only and pretty weak since you have limited control. Do you mean something else in Sonic Advance 2?

[@hanezutchins2786]

@@thelastgogeta I mean, in a way, Sonic starts moving faster and leaving after images when he hits a certain speed in Advance 2. Does that not count as a boost?

[@thelastgogeta]

@@hanezutchins2786 Only if the visual effect left behind by Sonic's movement is more important that how it actually works or is used in the game. My opinion is that it is that is the wrong way to measure a mechanic. How it looks is really unimportant to me when Spindash or curling into a ball is closer to being like Sonic Rush to Forces Boost. Sonic Heroes also has something REALLY close that is used sparingly. I admit that it seems to be called "Boost Mode" in Advance games but that's not actually relevant to how it works.

[@nedalomar4216]

The rush trilogy is underrated it need more praise Edit : thank you for the likes :)

[@nedalomar4216]

@José Gonzalo Paz Peña *ahem* *ahem* colors used the same gameplay from sonic rush

[@fennemon]

@José Gonzalo Paz Peña Sonic Colors DS literally uses the same engine and references Rush in the game.

[@texastech56789]

@José Gonzalo Paz Peña ehhh, SOME (not all, of course) see that as rush 3, like how some people view 06 as "adventure 3" in concept.

[@fennemon]

@José Gonzalo Paz Peña “Other than the gameplay being the same there are no similarities”

[@radiokunio3738]

Rush is honestly better than the 3d boast in my opinion, the trick system really adds something to it, though keep in mind im aslo a simp for blaze so i may be bias.

[@JetblackJay]

I didn't have any trouble for any bosses I didn't even know there was a easy mode that's how simple the game is

[@SharklordZerato]

His criticism wasn't that he had trouble with the bosses or that they were difficult or complex, but rather that they were tedious and boring. The reason easy mode was brought up was not a question of challenge level but an explanation of a way where the bosses would take up less of his time since they die in 6 hits as opposed to 8. Saying "I didn't have trouble because the game is simple" completely misses the point of the critique that was given

[@JetblackJay]

@@SharklordZerato i know but they aren't tedious them taking long Is a way of saying its hard to waste time but its not that long

[@zjzr08]

@@SharklordZerato The tediousness vs. difficulty conversation is always an interesting topic that always comes up...I usually go the camp that tediousness is "physical difficulty" to me, hence why I see higher HP on enemies as "higher difficulty", while some will argue it's just the same enemy but is beat longer.

[@ViltrumiteIsRite99]

@@JetblackJay Guys, he out right complains about predictable boss attacks, and long stretches of time where you can’t hit them. On top of it all, bosses can take almost 3 mins. Sounds like tedious shit to me.

[@atomic-art]

@@JetblackJay that’s tedious you’re fucking stupid

[@Chubby_Bubby]

Could the whole 2 dimension collapsing thing be because the DUAL Screens of the DS collapsed on two each other when u close it? Cause that would be pretty neat!

[@TGVBT640]

you are a genius

[@hihi-nm3uy]

‘the fundamental flaws of the sonic rush series’ State your defence, so The Council can pass divine judgement.

[@Megaman.ExE7]

I was JUST searching for a Sonic Review. You never fail me J

[@VincentEternal]

(Sees the title) Aw man 🙃

[@VincentEternal]

Whatever our opinions on the rush games are we can all collectively agree that the music slaps way to hard

[@polytanksan5761]

Yes

[@jaretco6423]

Absolutely.

[@ShockHat734]

Indeed

[@polytanksan5761]

Your right on about that

[@SeekerLancer]

Rush was the game that got me back into Sonic. It's imperfect but very fun and the soundtrack elevates it.

[@munchrai6396]

Wow, I didn't realize that the DS version of Sonic Colors added so much to the story. Going to be really interesting to compare it to the console versions later down the road, but the story and boss improvements alone already make me want to hunt down an old copy over the Wii version

[@MikeJr9284]

I enjoyed the Sonic Rush series. I remember playing Rush Adventure as well as my friend’s copy of Rush growing up.

[@Dat1snivy]

Ls mark now officially exists in the J's reviews universe

[@rueblie2627]

Because he’s friends with Splashdash?

[@superkyutobi3]

Wrapped in Black sampled a Malcom X speech legendary

[@polytanksan5761]

The madlad

[@haaxxx9]

"If it's too black, that means it's too strong!" It's a cup of coffee. It's a fucking cup of black coffee after ALL THESE YEARS. *A STRONG CUP OF BLACK COFFEE!*

[@lostgem8225]

@@haaxxx9 my god the comment section joles are true

[@thinfriedtofu]

@@haaxxx9 It was Malcom X complaining about Black Separatist movements being ruined by (white) liberals joining in and turning the movements instead into desegregation and integration. "What you do? You integrate it with cream, you make it weak. If you pour too much cream in, you won't even know you ever had coffee. It used to be hot, it becomes cool. It used to be strong, it becomes weak. It used to wake you up, now it'll put you to sleep."

[@ChangedMyNameFinally69]

@@thinfriedtofu Though he changed his views later on

[@cpmc1164]

Flaw and sonic rush normally don’t go together this will be interesting

[@bruhmaxxer]

The game plays much better on an actual DS than on emulator, as it's easier to see stuff coming from above and below.

[@piranhalettuce]

Yeah Sonic rush is one of those games that you should play on a ds rather than an emulator.

[@RubyofBlue]

These videos are such a treat to look forward to

[@riiyoka__]

I recently found your channel a week ago and I’ve been enjoying the sonic content, it’s really rare to see video essay like videos on sonic because people are so quick to dismiss the games as “bad”. Love seeing your videos in my notifications keep it up man

[@OrangeToadGamer]

Now that I think about it I've only experienced most of the Sonic series from the handheld installments

[@radiokunio3738]

Same till forces it was mostly ds games, then atfer hating forces i decided to play the adventure games on emulator which where pretty good.

[@jaretco6423]

I think the handheld Sonic games were the only good ones that came around Sonic during the 2000's. With the exception of being Chronicles: Dark Brotherhood & Battle. Those were bad. The only good console 3D Sonic games we had around the time is the Adventure duology & Generations. The rest were either mediocre or just bland.

[@spinceiling7442]

Tbh those are pretty much the only ones worth playing in the dark age (besides the first Riders)

[@retrofusion4429]

It’s pretty exciting to hear you’ll be covering Sonic Chronicles. It’s not fondly remembered by many because of the many situations the games’ release caused (thanks Penders) and because at the end of the day it’s only really a decent-enough RPG with passable touch screen gameplay. But it’s actually got a bunch of weird history, like the scrapped soundtrack and the absolute hackjob they did to replace it in the time given. I’ve actually got a particular fondness for the game as I love, love, LOVE that it tried to build on Knuckles’ character and background as current Sonic games absolutely decimated him as a character. But this game covers intraspecies and interspecies relationships in the Knuckles clan, with the Nocturne and the rest of the neat little alien cast. They weren’t developed *enough*, per se, but like, it was really neat to see what they ended up accomplishing. I’ve got a soft spot for the game myself, as do a couple of others. You should take a gander at the Sonic Chronicles Reimagined Twitter, it’s pretty cool; a bunch of people are working on a pc fanmade remaster of the game with the possibility of a sequel on the table. It’s a really cool project with not a lot of recognition, so don’t be afraid to throw them a shout-out in your video if you’d be so kind ;) For real though; awesome coverage of the rush series. I really like Colors so I’m glad you showed it some love, it really does exceed the Wii version imo. Even though I‘m already subscribed, you can be sure I hit that like button and clicked that bell so I don’t miss your next! I’m 100% tuning in to see what you think of Chronicles, my guy!

[@bigbadgammagnome]

I think it's mostly not fondly remembered because of the awful fight system and weird SFX choices. Even as a kid, who loved pretty much everything on DS, I found the gameplay frustrating, as your attacks miss constantly and the sound effects in battles are really annoying

[@Zuckussbuilder]

Well that aged like milk

[@deadchannel758]

Bro I clicked on the notification like "this title BETTER not say soundtrack" 🤣

[@elliejoestar]

That title has me very worried sonic rush is still Golden in my memory

[@radiokunio3738]

Same this video is crap from what I've seen so far.

[@fennemon]

@@radiokunio3738 “The video has a different opinion from mine so it is garbage”

[@fnaf2isthegoat75]

@@fennemon I remember this one guy said he thought Sonic Colors was the funniest Sonic game and literally everyone attack him that's just how the fanbase is .

[@radiokunio3738]

@@fennemon no mean his points for disliking it, mainly the boast complaint, your not meant to boast through the entire game, similar to the tricks your meant to wait to use the boast at ideal moments to gain flow, the sound effect complaint completely misses that the sfx made that way to blend well with the music like a player controled rhythm in a sense, i can argee on the bottomless pits complaint that vary much is a problem, but otherwise no.

[@agreedboarart3188]

@@fennemon He basically implied that Colors DS is better than Sonic Rush which is just laughable.

[@NOLOAF-AR]

i really hope he didn’t forget to mention the homing attack

[@NOLOAF-AR]

he forgot to mention the homing attack in sonic rush :(

[@JsReviews]

It gets mentioned in Colors DS

[@queensophia3137]

@@JsReviews However, you forgot to mention the Air Boost in Sonic Colors Ds

[@spinceiling7442]

The boss fights in Rush Adventure are the best in the series imo

[@NottJoeyOfficial]

I love them so much.

[@hihi-nm3uy]

NOT TO MENTION THAT EPIC BOSS THEME

[@SpeedDemonPowerage98]

@@hihi-nm3uy also Deep Core.

[@ayrtonjoga]

Why

[@JoJoboiWav]

fax

[@burstmachines5548]

Sonic Rush, aka my childhood, how I love you and how I miss you.

[@blublur06]

I'm surprised the 2D sprites of Blaze and Cream in Blaze's credits in Rush weren't mentioned. My Headcannon was that Blazes's was a repurposed sprite from a moment when the game was planned to be 2D Also, with Colors DS, the challenge was to not get too many of other color orbs. The orbs don't respawn and if you get too many of them before their round, you won't have enough to finish the stage

[@Takato]

Sonic Rush hardly was planned to be 2D. The sprites could maaaaybe be leftovers from Sonic Advance, but that's unlikely too. Before Sonic Rush, in E3 2004 there was a tech demo for the DS called "Sonic DS", which then turned into Sonic Rush later, and in that demo the game was already 3D. They probably just dropped the idea from the tech demo, because it really didn't look fun.

[@cdscissor]

6:03 Aww man, that border is so slick, though.

[@Mr2Secs]

Man, I never thought I could so much about the Rush games with someone. I am a bit disappointed that you didn't talk more about Colors DS (Collectibles, how mission cutscenes vary depending in how many you beat them, Terminal Velocity being 1 act long, etc.), tho. Oh Well. Also, you didn't mention how the Sol Emeralds in SRA are obtained by doing missions.

[@peliukun8164]

recycled content still. which wuz the point

[@Rikosapphire]

Rush Adventure is actually one of my favourite sonic games to this day. I loved the exploring, the gameplay style, all the different mini games, the crafting, the secrets, the mission mode, the music, etc..

[@zjzr08]

It seems if you're not fond of JRPGs then I feel the style SRA is trying to do may not fit for the player - story cutscenes, backtracking, exploration, side missions, I wonder if that's a possible taste connection.

[@Rikosapphire]

For sure. I love JRPGs. this is one of the first games I played that took me out of my comfort zone, it’s probably responsible for me realising how much I like that kind of formula.

[@Neoniq41]

One of the most underrated Sonic games without question. It does kinda annoy me that not enough people talk about it, since it's basically and improvement over the first Rush game in basically every single way.

[@R.EXLayer]

"I didn't have a physical copy of Chronicles in the last video so I used a screenshot, but I own it now! That's worth something...right?" It sure is, my friend...it sure is.

[@smashmaster521]

It's worth a coveted Bronze Medal.

[@amandaslough125]

Chronicles is a bad game with a good foundation and great potential. Lots of good mechanics and story held back from time restraints and thrown in console gimmicks. Alas, Shade will never make a return, and we can only pray they attempt even an action rpg in the future.

[@R.EXLayer]

@@amandaslough125 Agreed. The story was interesting enough that I did happen to clear it just to see the whole thing through. Here's to hoping they give it another shot someday.

[@sanjaynambisan2538]

this is my favourite handheld sonic game it was so addicting that ive played through the entire story like at least 10 times

[@Sydney_Angelyt]

Damn, I liked that border

[@AzureDragonZX]

To this day, Sonic Colours DS is still my favourite Sonic game of all time, and my fourth favourite game overall.

[@JB-pf3wv]

Great video while I overall disagree with your opinion on the first two Rush games I can see where you're coming from. Personally I always found the rush games enjoyable even today through mastering the physics of the games and using them to my advantage to skip certain sections I never found the game boring because of a lack of on the fly reflexes. I can see why you didn't care for Rush Adventure but personally I was found most of the vehicle sections actually rather enjoyable the only one I really took issue with was the under sea tank mission as I thought it it could drag a bit but it wasn't enough to to bring down my enjoyment of the game as a whole. I absolutely love the story and characters of the games I found them delightful. Even though I don't agree with your sentiments and don't really agree that some of the points you made are truly flaws I can see why these games didn't work for you and I respect your opinion and wish you the best for your future videos.

[@TheSqueakerNerd]

Wrapped in Black is definitely one of my favorite songs from sonic rush.

[@trevinodude]

Yeah the Sonic Rush games aren’t for everyone but they were interesting as the precursor to the gameplay we got in Sonic Unleashed day stages... Blaze is awesome, the soundtracks are great... but objectively speaking, I think Colors DS was the most streamlined and I think it shows in the way most have come to remember it even more fondly than I expected over the years.

[@sadman7021]

I thought that style of music with the voice samples sounded really familiar, so i looked it up and its the guy that did the music for jet set radio!

[@poppi8432]

Marine is annoying yes but she's just a kid. She's really cute too.

[@finnbai]

I don't know why, but the Final Special Stage in Sonic Rush is my worst nightmare, I don't have the best reflexes. Still a really fun time.

[@dmtrsgrksrphl2501]

6:04 The boarder looks amazing and thus should have been used. I played this a lot and practiced every act to get S Rank on every single one except Rush Adventure

[@ellieporter3270]

*sees title* *remembers that he was fair to Black Knight* “Alright J I’ll watch it first but you’re on thin fucking ice.”

[@jqiro_]

Yeah... I was disappointed 😞

[@chaosprogrammer2219]

But didn't he say he liked black knight.

[@ellieporter3270]

@@chaosprogrammer2219 Yes that's the point I was making, people who are nice to Black Knight get a pass in my book

[@DBMusicEX]

Felt the same way. Pretty bummed he didn't like the Rush series but liked Black Knight, but hey at least most of the fanbase considered those the Rush games good anyways...

[@السراقالمجهول]

as flawed as sonic rush is its still my second favorite sonic game simply because the flaws arnt killing the game for me and I can look pass them and enjoy the good stuff and the good stuff are so good also this is the first game I speedrunned

[@Howardpower679]

Yeah you didnt upgraded the ships in rush adventure didn't you???

[@shadowclone452]

Sonic Rush 1 and 2 are far and away my favorite 2D Sonic games. I'm posting from my old cringe account but I'm actually 27, and I've played almost every Sonic game. Maybe I'm supposed to respect the classics, or maybe I should love the Advance series (which I do) but Sonic Rush is by far the most replayable. The special stages are far more fun and manageable, the music is amazing, the story actually think the story is kind of adorable, and above all else, the game is just fun to memorize and speedrun. Also.... the more times you get hit in the Rush games, the further away your rings fly away from you. This insentivices the player to avoid getting hit at all during bosses, which all other Sonic games fail to do.

[@biohazardbin]

the fundamental flaws of other's opinions

[@Maid_Sate]

The final boss stage on Sonic Rush Adventure was Eggman and Eggman Nega piloting a giant mech called the Egg Wizard(?) You fight in the volcano of the hub world island, as Super Sonic and Blazing Blaze simultaneously. Sonic creates force fields that deflect incoming projectiles, Blaze shoots fire balls. I remember back when I finally got all the chaos emeralds and sol emeralds and then saw them transform to enact the finale stage. It felt so.. satisfying. And then after the battle and the finishing cutscene, the hub world's bgm changes to it's final tune, and that music is forever burnt into my soul mind. I think SR Adventure was meant to be a long haul of a playthrough, It could be called bad design with all of the repetitiveness, but I think low-key was were my affinity for grindy RPGs originated. A side note feature I distinctly remember, is that on repeat playthroughs on a level, you get to see the ghost of your best time race along side you, which I absolutely loved racing against! It was so much fun beating myself over and over, it getting harder each time, each play sessions I'd have... It's nostalgia, but Sonic Rush Adventure was my first and is my favorite game to date in the sonic franchise.

[@hanezutchins2786]

I cant stop laughing at "Cream cheering for Sonic getting his ass kicked".

[@TheYiffingAtheist]

"I'm too lazy to swap the screens" "I made a special border just for this game"

[@mattm7220]

Excellent video - can't wait for that Chronicles review. I remember that being one of the best RPG style games (outside of the Pokémon franchise) I've ever played, so I'm excited to see it get broken down. I'm also excited to finally find out how it ends, seeing as I lost my copy years ago while moving, so I never got to finish it.

[@redreploid1713]

Sonic rush was my childhood, I remember staying at my grandma’s while my parents were at work, I’d always take my DS and having a blast trying to complete Rush. Until I got stuck at the Egg King. It’s a similar situation from sonic heroes, where the game had such a big impact in my life that i just don’t care if it’s not a perfect game, i just can’t help but love it

[@internetloser2336]

It's reviews like these that definitely give Rush a bad name and why we haven't gotten ports of them. Rush is not a sequence to Advanced 3 considering how different the games play to each other. Advance 3 has level design is built around using momentum and selecting partners to help beat the levels faster while Rush rewards you for learning the ins and outs of each level to combo tricks and boosting through them as quickly as possible to achieve a better rank. Most people just gloss over the fact this is the only Sonic game that rewards you for boosting as much as possible AND getting a good time. Don't say a game is flawed if you can't be bothered to give the game a proper chance.

[@gggsh7]

nah j reviews is speakin facts these games are hella flawed

[@internetloser2336]

@@gggsh7 Nah, they're good games. If your skills are lacking, maybe you can try the 2d and 3d remakes of the first game being made by fans to appreciate them more.

[@gggsh7]

@@internetloser2336 not really, im plenty good at sonic games, i just dont like the ones that have either boring level design or throw instant death at you that you wont reasonably be able to see coming

[@internetloser2336]

@@gggsh7 I don't see how the level design is any different from other 2d sonic games out there. Especially I'm terms of off screen bs the player couldn't see until it's too late but to each there own! I'd recommend playing the 2d and 3d remakes if it's not your cup of tea. 👍

[@sterling8389]

This is really funny because I just uncovered and beat my copy of Sonic Rush that i got as a gift for the very first time and am now starting Sonic Rush. I honestly enjoy Sonic Rush! I might get more sonic games because of this! Sonic Rush does have some real bopping music.

[@DoomsdaySundial]

Great video as always J, though I get the impression you didn't know you could upgrade the jet-ski in Rush Adventure. You have to unlock all the boats first, I think. Makes the Johnny Races so much more bearable (iirc it makes the boost gauge larger). Of course do that, you need more materials which requires more filler content. Really a pick your poison situation.

[@ORLY911]

tbh getting all the mats really didn't take that long at least it didnt feel like it.

[@mtscsealer]

There’s 1 thing I fear and that is Cream’s power to nuke every boss

[@ThrowingForContent]

Finally saw a review of Sonic Colors I have played that game myself and agree with all the points you said on that game. Great review from J's Reviews once again!

[@AquaSoda3000]

4:55 I like to imagine that they used all the budget designing Blaze and only had enough money left to make to make Eggman Nega a reskin of Eggman.

[@asmallfuq9996]

Honestly I cant wait for the Sonic Chronicles video, I remember replaying a ton when I was a kid

[@genemelendez8157]

Funny story. I played Sonic Rush as a kid without even knowing how to do tricks. I knew they existed because you’re ranked at the end of the levels with tricks being a factor. So I barely used the boost, relying way more on the spin dash to get through levels. I basically played Rush like the genesis and advanced trilogies

[@benjulc9271]

Your backstory with the DS is very similar to mine. My siblings had it first, I got a DSi later, they stopped playing with them and now I have theirs, wich is convenient because mine broke for overuse. Not that it matters because I usually play with my 3ds, but I wanted to share this.

[@Komodo772]

I think the 2D rush gameplay is perfect. Using tricks are so fun and getting boost from it is satisfying. You have so much control in the air which makes it more fun for me and you barely see that in 3D games unless they force you to do tricks automatically. I would love to see a proper Sonic Rush 3 one day.

[@sakio7873]

I wish Blaze had her own solo game.

[@smashmaster521]

Blaze The Cat, where you can have the titular fiery feline wield a variety of flaming swords and a flamethrower as she fights to protect the Sol Dimension from the likes of Eggman Nega and the White Arms.

[@sakio7873]

@@smashmaster521 That would be an awesome game if Sega doesn't fuck it up.

[@smashmaster521]

@@sakio7873 Oh my god, I was just making a playful jab at Shadow the Hedgehog with that description of a potential Blaze game. Why doesn't SEGA hire me to handle the Sonic franchise if I can come up with impressive game concepts like that without even trying?

[@yungmuney5903]

@@smashmaster521 White arms? Bitch please. How about White Legs?

[@Neoniq41]

Doubt it'd sell well tbh

[@carsonproctorofficial]

This holds a special place in my heart because it was when I first started to get into 2D side-scrolling platform games similar to super mario. Looking back, I never did beat the game. And I don’t have my DS or the game anymore, unfortunately.

[@noahdavis7406]

I personally think that Sonic Colors is an experience that isn't complete without playing both the Wii and DS games as they kinda compliment each other in a bunch of ways.

[@crimsonslayer6641]

11:22 The final individual bosses in sonic rush were difficult, Lost over 15 lives as sonic. I was so happy when I beated sonic’s story, now blaze’s story is next 🫠

[@Acidicstudios]

I'd still rather replay Rush 1 or 2 over any other sonic game released in the past 20 years. A second playable character that by design clashes with the main hero and isn't classic sonic, she even basically gets her own remix of the incredible soundtrack? Sign me up. Especially in the case of rush 2 the game isn't over in like, 5 seconds either, it has a chunky story with some fun stuff in there, take it or leave it.

[@ayrtonjoga]

But Rush was released in this past 20 years, what are you talking about?

[@hollowayraulie1422]

Sonic Rush Adventure was a huge part of my childhood I freakin loved that game. You’re definitely right though I was super invested in the story but like nothing was happening 😭

[@tiruliru1189]

Honestly even with it's own flaws, I'd definitely give them a try.

[@Captain.Mystic]

The rush games feel like they were more a debut series for blaze before they entirely scrapped her after 06. Seriously the fact that sonics world is a lot more chill according to blaze, as well as the fact Neggman seems to be a far more arrogant and less subtle version of his counterpart, and that blaze doesnt even know who he is, signals the fact that blaze was taught to protect ONLY the emeralds and her kingdom. Really feels like there can be so much more done with her that just never happened. It also seems like "That was harsh" was going to be a recurring gag for blaze, where she just snaps and tells people to fuck off for good reason even if she could show them a bit more patience. Imagine a similar spinoff for blaze like they did for shadow where she realizes her own world is a lot more broken than she realizes thanks to her version of eggman and that its up to her to save it like sonic does for his. If the rush games were about her learning to be her own person, then next games would have been learning to love being a hero rather than just tolerate being a princess. Not gonna lie a lot of fun ideas could come out of just having blaze interact with literally anyone other than silver or sonic for a change. Ian Flynn seems to have some ideas in the comics but the most we got still is Marine in IDW(who i dont actually hate, again marine feels like shes supposed to be the tails of blazes world and so needed to learn similar lessons in what being a hero actually means).

[@FrostTheHobidon]

Once you play Sonic Chronicles, you're going to have a Hard time, trust me I played it.

[@bepis_real]

I'm currently on the quest of buying myself a new DS Lite to live the childhood of GBA and DS games I never grew up with, and Sonic Rush was next on the list of purchases. Hearing how everyone adores these games, I'm really curious to sit down to this video before picking up the game for the first time. Hopefully I can still go in to the game with my own impressions once I finally play it myself

[@agreedboarart3188]

If you can find the Rush games, get them! They're great.

[@SuiteLifeofDioBrando]

Sonic Rush Adventure is my favorite portable Sonic game!

[@benogle4951]

That DS compilation was actually my intro to the character, from there I read whatever Archie I could get my hands on from the library and sonic x. I dabbled in various other Sonic games and media eventually becoming a big fan of the franchise. I never got that far into the DS version as a kid but a couple years ago I got nostalgic and decided to replay it and that was my first time getting Super Sonic and I'm never forget that feeling

[@ThatBoiDarius_]

I actually think Marine is overhated and compared to other hated characters she doesn’t deserve to be there with them

[@linkenski]

Sonic Rush is the only game other than Colors where I found myself obsessively replaying every stage to earn the fastest time and S rank across the board. You have to fall in love with it and its vibe to get there I'm sure, but to me it turned the game into this exciting (no pun intended) rush of maximizing my speed beyond the obvious boosting. Learning the layout of the stages, and learning how to best utilize the tricks while not losing too much speed, and cutting off loops prematurely by jumping to skip ahead of the railroaded speed. There is a lot of technique to Rush, and it's the perfect game of "Easy to beat, challenging to master" and it became mezmerizing to me. You ought to give it another shot IMO.

[@Cooldude15104]

I really did like the sonic rush games they are actually some of my favorite 2d sonic games edit I liked your new custom border it looks really good

[@pokekiller787x]

I played the first rush game alot back in like 2014, 2015. I really liked it then and still pop it in my 3DS and play a little every once in a while.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

5:00 Not exactly. Nega would rather kill everyone than lose. Eggman would flee or fight to the end, only fleeing IF he has a chance.

[@acclrtr2262]

I LOVED this game back in the day. The introduction of Blaze and the Hideki soundtrack set this shit off so crazy.

[@dogishappy0]

I know one thing he won't complain about for the first game... the music. (I hope). Time to watch the video!

[@Harrinsain]

You got a good laugh out of me with how abruptly the video ends.

[@JsReviews]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iZ6zk5lmlLVseJo Not even my best work.

[@Starzoh]

I'm sure he had to cut out all the times he accidentally said "whips" and not "wisps"

[@TC7-Thecomplex7]

Idk why but whenever someone comes at sonic rush for level difficulty I always disagree for some reason. 7 year old me absolutely loved how challenging this game was

[@alfiehicks1]

They might be "fundamentally flawed", but they're a hell of a lot better than half of the shit in the Sonic series. Plus, they understand 2D level design way better than any """"3D"""" boost game. If we're going to keep having boost games, they should just stick to 2D to save resources, then have the 3D games slow down a bit so that it's more manageable to create on a regular basis without resorting to crutches that fill up most of the game like the Werehog, Classic Sonic and shitty 2D sections.

[@DBMusicEX]

100% agree. Even though I like the Werehog sections. The boost games are better off being strictly 2D since they rarely do any good with the 3D sections and it could allow for better level design and better focus in terms of structure. Plus it's just better to have the games be short if it means avoiding implementing gameplay styles people didn't ask for. Forces unfortunately only proves this moreso. That time wasted on implementing Classic Sonic's shit gameplay and "role" in the "plot" could've bin used to improve the rest of the game potentially...

[@ayrtonjoga]

I prefer the boost in the 3D games than in 2D because I can at least see what's ahead, visibility was already an issue in the classics and the boost could've fixed this issue by tweaking the level design, which was not the case for Rush 1

[@iggyminious]

I would agree with the special stages of Rush Adventure being the hardest and most frustrating in the series... ...except that I beat the seventh one on my first try when I realized you could upgrade your bike twice, lol.

[@theirishpotato6588]

Sonic colors is my favorite one. Underrated.

[@phj9894]

I loved sonic rush because it's one of the few sonic games where bosses are actually challenging and make my hands sweat. So satisfying when I beat them.