The Future of Montreal-Pierre Trudeau International Airport

[@gcason2]

Please do a video on the new Montreal REM! Thanks!

[@TD-gc5tq]

I think you said in another video that you were expecting some sort of revival of YMX (Mirabel) in the future, but wouldn’t YHU (Saint-Hubert) make more sense as a secondary airport? It’s closer to the downtown core, and line 4 (yellow) being relatively close, they could even expend it and provide a direct link to YHU.

[@felixhurteau2630]

The yellow line is pretty far from YHU and it could be much easier to extend the Deux-Montagnes REM train to Mirabel. Also Mirabel has much better facilities to receive passengers.

[@TD-gc5tq]

Félix Hurteau I agree that in term of capacity Mirabel wins, but I can’t see a lite metro going there; the distance is too big and the urbanization along the way is too low. The yellow isn’t insanely close but it’s not insanely far either, and you have some valuable points of interest along the way to YHU and beyond.

[@gelu88]

@@felixhurteau2630 The issue is that the population north of montreal is very low. There is very little value extending any sort of transit to Mirabel. Trudeau will remain the main airport of montreal for the future. But the real alternative secondary airport is for sure St-Hubert. It's actually only a 10 mins bus ride from the south terminal of the REM, and close to many high density nodes. It's also closer to much of Montreal as Trudeau is, including downtown.

[@Token_Nerd]

YUL is an airport I have huge mixed feelings with, their management is the worst of the 4 major Canadian airports, but the airport is easy enough to use so I can't fault it too much. But the PTVs are really cool and one of the most unique features of the airport.

[@Token_Nerd]

@@RMTransit They were only ever big at Dulles and Mexico City outside of Montreal. I believe JFK, CDG, and Mirabel also used them.

[@erictremblay4940]

@@Token_Nerd Can you elaborate on the airport management? I was under the impression they acheived a pretty good balancing act between modest cost efficient improvements and still meeting growth. (Agreed the early evening int'l bank is already at capacity - gates and customs side). As a result, landing fees are pretty cheap.

[@AmelieZh]

I already love YUL better than yyz. Good news

[@alexanderip1003]

but YYZ has an Mainline Airport Rail Link with examples from (Hong Kong's MTR Airport Express, London's Heathrow Express and Gatwick Express, Jakarta's Soekarno-Hatta Airport Railink and Kualanamu Airport Rail link, Tokyo's Narita Express and Haneda Monorail, Seoul's Incheon Airport Railway Express, and Kuala Lumpur's KLIA Ekspres ) Not to mention it has it's own People mover with examples from (Birmingham's Air Rail link, Moscow's Sheremeteyvo airport transit, Chicago's O'Hare Airport Transit, Singapore's Changi SkyTrain, Hong Kong's International Airport Automated People Mover, San Francisco's Oakland Tokyo's Narita Former Airport Terminal 2 Shuttle system)

[@alexanderip1003]

@@RMTransit I Thought the YUL and Exo are going to use the Aerotrain Aerotrain Project kzbin.info/www/bejne/amPUhn2QltWXjM0

[@paularonald8626]

As soon as the REM Light Rail Airport station is completed and operational, I will come to Otakuthon in Montreal. But not until then. It is still under construction so no it won't be finished in 2022 but hopefully by the end of 2023? Sure hope so.

[@gelu88]

Great roundup of the present and future of the Montreal airport. If you are every doing an update, I would spend some time on the St Hubert airport. It recently completed a runway extension and is open to larger airplanes for the first time. There have been multiple plans for cheap airlines to use it as an alternative, though none are yet active. Compared to Mirabel, its actually much closer, and actually equidistant to Trudeau for much of the island of Montreal. It also has both a Commuter rail line adjacent(currently very low frequency) as well as a 10 mins shuttle bus away from the southern REM terminal.

[@PixelBeamTM]

It sucks that south-west transit connectivity isn't in the plans. I can get to the airport in 15 minutes via A20, but it would take me around an hour via any transit option.

[@Dee_Just_Dee]

• A couple of the areas you marked in dark pink are not parking per se; they're car rental depots. • The medium-sized "parking" block to the west of the loop is still under construction at this time. • The bus route you marked would be "out of" the airport rather than "into" it; the terminal loops run counterclockwise. My intent isn't to trash the video though. I do like it.

[@Dee_Just_Dee]

Well, if your intent was to be that inclusive, you also forgot the massive employee parking on English Ave. and the overflow parking at Arthur-Fecteau x Cardinal....

[@guldukat2453]

Is there an update on the REM route to YUL? There’s been recent talk of building a segment from Bonaventure directly to YUL, making a stop along the Dorval VIARail station. That would make the trip from downtown to YUL a lot faster and more direct.

[@guldukat2453]

Reece Martin www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montreal/montreal-lachine-tramway-annoucement-pink-line-1.5190472 There’s a lot of talk inside CDQPi recently that there will be an announcement soon on status for the western (Lachine) segment of Valerie Plante’s Pink Line. Specifically, this was originally announced as a tramway but both Montréal and QC government have left it up to CDPQi to determine the technology - and there’s high likelihood that this may be converted to REM technology turning the tramway project into another REM line. Because it goes all the way to Lachine in the southwest, it could also link up with YUL completing the REM loop. Don’t have specific news or citations on the above but just heard from various folks at CDPQi. More to come this spring 2020.

[@wiselyong4114]

More airport explained videos please!! :)

[@stevenrollins8379]

You should do one of sky harbor in Phoenix Arizona

[@mr51406]

Very good overview video! ⭐️ Notes: 1. As usual non-Montrealers don’t get that compass points in Montreal are tilted 45° to the left 🙄 “North” is actually NW. It’s weird, no worries. The A520 (“Côte-de-Liesse”) is labeled E/W (even number). The A13 (named indeed “Chomedey” but it’s not on the signs) is N/S (bc odd and perpendicular to the St. Lawrence). 2. The 747 is great. The “747X” that only goes to Lionel-Groulx metro has a separate queue at the airport bus stop. Actually the short line is more useful unless you’re going to a hotel downtown. This “regular” 747 makes all stops along René-Lévesque Blvd. So if you’re going to another area get off right away and take the metro, it may be faster than going all the way to Berri-UQAM. Residents usually get off right away. 3. Don’t take the 204 and 202 to Du Collège unless you’re really going to the St-Laurent borough or one of the hotels along Côte-de-Liesse. 4. Mirabel is gone. The terminal was demolished. It was full of asbestos anyway. It’s all freight. Eventually St-Hubert could do more small and midsize planes but the runways are short. 5. We Canadians like to put ourselves down, but YUL is now a really well run and attractive airport, and especially spacious, which is very important now. 6. I can’t wait for the REM. 🍏

[@weatheranddarkness]

the idea of taking any other bus to the airport but the 747 grinds my gears, because you're stuck at the bus terminal on the other side of the tracks, the shuttle almost never comes. In fact it's not even clear where to go to get the shuttle. There's a tunnel that takes a lot of effort to traverse. It's so bad, in fact, I've never taken the 747, and prefer to take a cab from my house. The link is bad, the REM straight to the airport can't come soon enough.

[@Kishanth.J]

Can we get another airport breakdown videos, maybe if Ottawa’s airport

[@ajjeff1033]

The short runway is no longer used and will be dismantled.

[@nielspemberton59]

I'd re-do Mirabel with a high speed train Montreal - Mirabel - Ottaway and scrap Dorval Trudeau Airport and make it into a great green park !!

[@TD-gc5tq]

Why did you guys choose to go with miscellaneous pictures of Montreal rather than current pictures and expansion concept art of YUL? Copyright issues?

[@TheDarklam]

Do you have a Pattreon? Where can we support you to make more videos?

[@torontotransit]

Do Pearson

[@torontotransit]

@@RMTransit oh

[@dubongros3108]

This airport should not even exist ! We had the brand new Mirabel airport in 1975 , the government chose to keep the old Dorval airport open for dometic flights . Why the deciders opted to keep open two airports remains a mistery . as of 2021 Mirabel remains open for airfreight only, the passenger terminal was torn down a few years ago . Montréal has set an example for everything a city has to do to end up in failure . Denver got the message and destroyed the old airport as soon as the new one opened .

[@weatheranddarkness]

There's still no useful link to Mirabel, except by car, so it's been DOA forever. North American insistence on NOT doing high speed rail links between important places has been shooting ourselves collectively in the feet for over a century.

[@Moemoney5666]

First..-!

[@AIRBORNE410]

2 biggest improvements to YUL would be to remove the name Trudeau and build smoking-areas passed security-checks