The "Gaza Armory" and How AI Generates Failures (YouTube Cut)

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Ryan McBeth

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6 ай бұрын

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@_John_P
@_John_P 6 ай бұрын
Can you find the author of the image?
@lebanonchristian3951
@lebanonchristian3951 6 ай бұрын
Stop defending terrorism. The hospital was full of tunnels underneath
@markmonaghan2309
@markmonaghan2309 6 ай бұрын
Album cover from the pogues boxer had 5 fingers with peace tattoo on his knuckles.
@ianmurray4081
@ianmurray4081 6 ай бұрын
Merch idea…..a T shirt with you as Smokey the Bear with the phrase “Only You Can Prevent Truthiness” 🍺🫵🤟🇨🇦🫡🇺🇸🤟🫵🍺
@Bigmar98
@Bigmar98 6 ай бұрын
Stowing bombs on the back wall. BAHAHAHA. The guy who mounted a big ass sword over his son's crib thinks that's dumb.
@timh6845
@timh6845 6 ай бұрын
The AK with two barrels had some very promising results with managing recoil but was not popular in close quarters combat training…
@theimmortal4718
@theimmortal4718 6 ай бұрын
What about the rifle with the backwards under barrel grenade launcher? 😂
@Vesperitis
@Vesperitis 6 ай бұрын
The trick is to spin around while firing, creating a circle of death.
@goobernoodles
@goobernoodles 6 ай бұрын
@@theimmortal4718 send those back to Russia lol
@davidholdt3276
@davidholdt3276 6 ай бұрын
​@@theimmortal4718while it was a novel idea, it just never caught on.
@tomflorio104
@tomflorio104 6 ай бұрын
Q: "Is it magazine fed, breach or muzzle loading?" A: "Yes."
@huttj509
@huttj509 6 ай бұрын
What gets me (as a civilian) is "how would anyone access....any of that with the floor that cluttered? And it doesn't look like scattered entropy clutter, but organized and placed there, blocking off access to the back."
@EWLR89
@EWLR89 6 ай бұрын
It's supposed to look laid out. When stuff like that is found, they'll usually lay it out, catalog it, and take a picture before it's taken away.
@RoonMian
@RoonMian 6 ай бұрын
What gets me is that there is so much verified information out there about Hamas' atrocities (and its now getting more and more with the released hostages telling their experiences) that it's completely unnecessary to fake anything.
@alpacaofthemountain8760
@alpacaofthemountain8760 6 ай бұрын
lol
@StringerNews1
@StringerNews1 6 ай бұрын
It looks like it's there for show. An old Pink Floyd album cover shows all of the band's touring gear laid out in front of their truck in a similar way. The arrangement isn't how it's loaded into the truck, or how it's set up onstage. It's strictly to be shown. Like art. Maybe a teenage gang banger wannabe would lay out a half dozen guns that way, but not a militia.
@dannyboy-vtc5741
@dannyboy-vtc5741 6 ай бұрын
​@@StringerNews1ummagumma?
@namenloss730
@namenloss730 6 ай бұрын
It might be because I'm a researcher in computer graphics, but I notice these AI generated images almost instantly in most cases, not by f*ed up details, but because they look like professional photoshoots with post processing, also often with weird focal lengths
@hendrickziegler8487
@hendrickziegler8487 6 ай бұрын
only because compression looks like someone shot 135mm in a tight tunnel with perfectly lit concrete walls and no light shining from the weapons doesn't mean that it's fake!!!1!! Kidding aside: Good point.
@EroticOnion23
@EroticOnion23 5 ай бұрын
Yea there's this weird plasticky sheen to it too, like watching a soap-opera...🤔
@piercearora7681
@piercearora7681 4 ай бұрын
@@EroticOnion23 yeah that's usually what makes it clear to me
@LibertarianGalt
@LibertarianGalt 4 ай бұрын
I'm betting the majority of intial content used to train the AI was stock images creating a bias towards overly photoshopped studio shoots or completely out of context pictures.
@zeroch1ll911
@zeroch1ll911 19 күн бұрын
Yea the lighting and focal length are odd.
@marykatetrausch7684
@marykatetrausch7684 6 ай бұрын
It’s sort of funny that the ways AI gets things wrong are so similar to how malevolent fairies or other creatures in European pre-Christian myths would make the same mistake! Like they’d be almost indistinguishable from a child you’d want to help and would try to lure you in and they’d get something wrong - like too many fingers, webbed fingers, missing limbs, impossible eye colors, ears or feet from the wrong species - and would then quickly reveal themselves in attack when confronted about it.
@user-gl7we7nb9u
@user-gl7we7nb9u 5 ай бұрын
Jinn are smokeless fire. Like AI
@gnaskar
@gnaskar 6 ай бұрын
A minor point to the AI generation: It certainly understands composition in as much as the image as a whole is beautifully composed with a perfectly framed tunnel end and an absolute wall of guns. The devil is in the detail, rather than the overview. The reason for this is that it doesn't just pick one place to begin, like Cody indicated, but starts at every point at once. None of the points will at this point agree with any of the neighbors, so after the first step you have a blurry mess that is only slightly more interesting than the static you started with. But then the process repeats again, and now you start seeing darker and lighter blurs in some areas, which gain definition step by step until you end up with a coherent image. The more time and computing power you can throw at the image, the larger the coherent area gets, as each view can "see" a larger and larger area. Up to a point, anyway. You also need an AI which understands the concept of a firearm well enough to know that it only has one magazine and one barrel, or else no amount of computing power will save you. Count the fingers is good advice; but it's only good advice right now. Hundreds of teams around the world are working on figuring out how to fix the composition problem generally or the finger problem in particular, and there's every possibility AIs will no longer make that particular mistake in six months. Six months ago, mangled text would have been the obvious giveaway. Hell, up until a week a go a short video clip was safe. It's much more telling that rather than poorly lit cellphone camera image snapped by a soldier in a cave with piles of guns, you saw a perfectly framed and centered image, well lit and clear, showing guns on display. AI's are usually trained to make "good" images, and most real images from a warzone aren't going to be good. If it looks like a Pulitzer prize contender it likely won't be shared on facebook or reddit. The journalist would have sold the image to a big media company, who'd clamp down on the valuable image until the article was ready and they could max out the ad revenue.
@fnorgen
@fnorgen 6 ай бұрын
One persistent problem I have with these diffusion based image generators is that they tend to be really indecisive when there are multiple, mutually exclusive ways to draw something. They have a nasty tendency to get stuck trying to render many solutions at once without ever settling on any one of them, regardless how many iterations you give them. This comes through particularly clearly when you task them to draw weapons. An AI might have a pretty good idea of what a rifle looks like, but typically won't be able to decide exactly what kind of rifle it is drawing unless maybe if you've given it very specific instructions. So you end up with familiar elements from loads of different rifles haphazardly cobbled together in a manner that looks good at first glance, but doesn't hold up to even surface lever scrutiny. I suspect we may be reaching the limit of what diffusion based techniques can do. At least without drastically improving the quality of the training data with way more accurate and detailed descriptions, or perhaps a more structured training scheme that puts greater emphasis on coherence over detail. I haven't tried any GANs yet. Don't know if they are any better in this regard.
@jimmy_kirk
@jimmy_kirk 6 ай бұрын
I tend to look at the finer details that give the image away. For starters, there isn't a single hanger, fastener, hook, or other hardware anywhere in the picture holding or mounting the guns to the wall. But, maybe they're using Alien Tape to hold them up. Secondly, the shadows are off.On the right side of the image, the gun barrels produce a very wide shadow, and on the left side of the image, the gun barrels produce a narrow shadow, even though the gun barrels are all fairly consistent in width and evenly spaced in position and distance from the light. The guns on the back wall are not producing any shadows, except for the handgun in the center which is only producing a shadow from the barrel, and not from the rest of the gun, such as the grip. With the lighting all coming from above equally along the tunnel, there would only be vertical shadowing on the tunnel walls, and not horizontal shadowing between the ridges in the walls. You wouldn't see the light and dark striping between the ridges if it were all being illuminated equally from above, you would be seeing shadows below extrusions, and not beside extrusions. Most of the shadows from the guns leaning on the walls don't match in shape to the actual item, and there are shadows from gun barrels that aren't there, and shadows that don't go all the way from the butt of the gun to the barrel, having a separate shadow that touches the butt of the gun than the shadow that touches the barrel of the gun. It feels fake because your mind knows how shadows should work and it confuses your mind when you're presented an image with conflicting lighting and shadowing. You might not know why the image feels fake, but your mind tells you that something isn't right here.
@jamesyoung7400
@jamesyoung7400 5 ай бұрын
Thankfully the creators of this are really bad a making AI generated images and think prompting SDXL is a magic wand, I'm glad most of these reject don't even know how to use it correctly.
@thesaw9988
@thesaw9988 5 ай бұрын
huh? Who gives a shit. Listen: IA is smarter than the average person, like me. IA is still not smarter than the people who programed it. (And yes, they are smarter than the average person.) End result: why do people fall for such failed results?
@jimmy_kirk
@jimmy_kirk 5 ай бұрын
@@thesaw9988 AI isn't smart at all. It has no intelligence and has no idea what it's actually responding with. It's just a pattern prediction algorithm that mimics the training model it was trained on.
@carlchong7592
@carlchong7592 6 ай бұрын
I like to think of AI generators as operating under the behaviour of a "cargo cultist". Cargo cult is a phenomenon dating back from WW2 where some island natives suddenly were exposed to the state of modern American logistics (airplanes, ships, radio, etc) but had no concept of how they worked. The natives got a taste for the fruits of these logistics for things like cigarettes and Coca Cola. Sometimes they became dependant on food shipments even (trading labor for rations) so when the war ended, they set up their own "radio sets" complete with bamboo antennas and coconut half shell earmuffs connected with rope cables, in an attempt to make logistics calls for air supply. They understood that things looking like certain things were necessary to summon useful and delicious stuff, but they hadn't much understanding of the EM spectrum. AI generates in a very cargo cult manner in that it understands that words correlate to certain image features, but it hasn't any direct sense of the what it feels like to pull a crunchy AK trigger, let alone correlate the words of dense storage logistics to how things should look. Even worse, many of us also don't have any idea of how to do certain practical things so we basically have cargo cultists employing cargo cult algos creating content for cargo cultists looking for emotional compulsion. It's an interesting mess, but I get the feeling that it's not a new one. We just have added yet another layer of cargo cultist in the information chain. If I am trying to be wise, I don't just sit back and laugh at cargo cultists. I see them as a cautionary tale which warns me to ask how I am being a cargo cultist in the positions that I hold. The real lessons in life show me the problems in my philosophy more than they help me feel smarter than others.
@robertnichols78
@robertnichols78 6 ай бұрын
That's an interesting way to look at it. Thanks for the comment.
@zilfondel
@zilfondel 6 ай бұрын
AI image generators are perhaps more accurately described as a collage rendering tool. Like having a 6 year old with the artistic ability of a 65 year old master painter but can't be arsed to do detailed work.
@57thorns
@57thorns 6 ай бұрын
Cargo cults are extremely common in when writing software, especially if a project is delayed a few years and everyone that started it is replaced. Someone misunderstood something about a tool but managed to both together something that worked for the application, then someone comes along that knows just a little about the tools, but also very little about the application, and definitely nothing about the reasons. So we end up with coding rules based on a assembly languages as written in the 1970s being applied to modern languages in 2023.
@bzipoli
@bzipoli 6 ай бұрын
it's way easier than this. is not that AI doesn't understand the complexity of so and so. it understands nothing. it's not sentient. same goes for LLMs. images are just collages based on higher percentage. LLMs just renders the next more probable word according to the database. you can look into how the GO AIs can beat world champions (well, former, now all champions are AI models) and lose to a person who just learnt how to play. there's a paper on it
@M.B___
@M.B___ 6 ай бұрын
A valuable lesson and interesting outlook on life. In a sense, we are all cargo cultists. Nobody fully understands everything.
@savageinstitute9569
@savageinstitute9569 6 ай бұрын
The entirety of reddit came to the same conclusion, at first glance. It was laughable, not very deceptive and could have easily been a joke.
@billpugh58
@billpugh58 6 ай бұрын
Your comment is odd. You have no way of knowing how many believed it. If you do please provide the data, no, not feels or lols, the data. thanks!
@edl5731
@edl5731 6 ай бұрын
@@billpugh58 It is pretty easy to figure out when all the replies basically say it is a funny comic, that people weren't fooled, but did see "the truth" of the comic.
@savageinstitute9569
@savageinstitute9569 6 ай бұрын
​@@billpugh58171 comments and no upvotes, no users stated that believes it to be genuine. In fact essentially every comment is laughing at how bad it is. The only sophisticated theoretical angle was that it is purposefully bad to post to middle east threads to make it seem like IDF propaganda. If it is deceptive on purpose and not jokingly, Ryans DIP talk is one logical step behind the actual relevance, but that angle is hard to prove and relatively pointless.
@zilfondel
@zilfondel 6 ай бұрын
People were lambasting the poster for posting misinformation, who then defended himself and claimed that everyone else was full of shit. A bad actor.
@puraLusa
@puraLusa 6 ай бұрын
​@@savageinstitute9569I actually saw this image 1st time just now on this channel and my mind went straight to that hypothesis.
@Chromakey23
@Chromakey23 6 ай бұрын
I think my favorite part of this is that they probably added some caption about hospital/hospital gear so the AI decided to add a BUNCH of scalpels and other medical eqp. randomly on the floor.
@purplegoop1247
@purplegoop1247 5 ай бұрын
honestly looked to me like fishing gear lmao, the biggest lures on the market
@toomanymarys7355
@toomanymarys7355 4 ай бұрын
I think it was generated as a joke. It was supposed to be an obvious joke.
@FarmerDrew
@FarmerDrew 6 ай бұрын
ABU HAJAAR, I TOLD YOU TO ROTATE STOCK ON THE AMMO, FIRST IN FIRST OUT
@hiker64
@hiker64 6 ай бұрын
Scary thing is we are only at the beginning of this tech. As algorithms evolve, they will become more and more realistic leaving the uncanny valley in its wake.
@WarblesOnALot
@WarblesOnALot 6 ай бұрын
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@SirCutRy
@SirCutRy 6 ай бұрын
You can get much better results with some effort today. The best are nearly indistinguishable from a photograph.
@Chinothebad
@Chinothebad 6 ай бұрын
One can only hope that the tech still has a level of jank that anyone paying attention knows its fake like with the details Ryan pointed out that anyone familiar with guns in some capacity would know, like the magazines on the guns.
@hiker64
@hiker64 6 ай бұрын
@@Chinothebad The problem is that many look at these kinds of photos, not to analyze them but to confirm their bias, so a quick glance is often all that's needed. But yeah, I agree.
@Chinothebad
@Chinothebad 6 ай бұрын
@@hiker64 Oh no doubt about that. People won't give it a second look unless they were skeptical and had a BS meter or someone pointed out a flaw that would warrant a second look. Other problem, after looking at the Reddit thread and seeing how its OP acted, some people will no doubt willingly believe a lie and claim others are lying while denying the fact they're literally buying into an image that has some obvious lies as shown with the guns.
@bennpierce2990
@bennpierce2990 6 ай бұрын
"A lie will make it out the door and across town while the truth is still pulling on it's pants and tying it's shoes." said some wise fellow. Besides, people would rather have a lie that confirms their bias than a truth that challenges it.
@MadaraUchihaSecondRikudo
@MadaraUchihaSecondRikudo 6 ай бұрын
Brandolini's Law (or the Principle of BS Asymmetry) states that it takes 10 times more effort to debunk BS than it is to spread BS.
@hydrolifetech7911
@hydrolifetech7911 5 ай бұрын
​@@MadaraUchihaSecondRikudoI'd like to make an amendment to that Principle. It's more like a 1000 times more effort needed!
@kikidevine694
@kikidevine694 5 ай бұрын
Terry Pratchett
@luislongoria6621
@luislongoria6621 Ай бұрын
Bomb Damage Assessment wasn't the most effective tactic of the Vietnam conflict even though the low risk missions were required to keep morale high
@luislongoria6621
@luislongoria6621 Ай бұрын
Unexploded ordinance might easily be confused as an enemy booby trap
@TheGreatLlamaJockey
@TheGreatLlamaJockey 6 ай бұрын
The thing that stuck out to me was the fact that most of the AKs look like they were drawn from memory by a 6th grader. Also some of the shells on the back wall have round bottoms which make no sense. Also some guns have a barrel where the stock should be.
@banegas0411
@banegas0411 6 ай бұрын
They look like it tried to do tank shells after they are fired but couldn't get the bottom right and ended up double siding it
@ColonelSandersLite
@ColonelSandersLite 6 ай бұрын
There's another angle that's worth paying attention to, though it will take you a while to really get an eye for it - The shadows cast by the rifles are plain wrong. For example, you know the "rifle" on the bottom right that has two mags going in opposite directions? There's a rifle next to it that's got some kind of really weird twist going on. It's casting two shadows despite the rifles next to it only casting one. Besides the program losing track of which light source is casting what shadows, if you look, the shadows indicate that some of these rifles are hovering off the wall. It looks very much like a video game character that doesn't actually quite meet the floor and is hovering off the ground by like half an inch. I can also see errors with where the light source is making highlights on various items. For instance, you might see how the light reflects off of a specific rifle, making highlights and shadows and then notice that the rifle next to it doesn't even remotely agree. Like rifle X is lit from the front and rifle Y is lit from the rear.
@Warpcaller
@Warpcaller 6 ай бұрын
I admit I know next to nothing about guns, never served in a military but I am quite confident not even Hamas would just hang RPG, mortar and artillery shells on a wall like that.
@keatonwastaken
@keatonwastaken 6 ай бұрын
The insight by Cody was good to see as another person in the tech field, very well explained. Misinformation doesn't have to be foolproof, it needs to be "good enough" for the average person to fall for it, AI image/audio/video generation is good enough to trick the average fool. What's gonna be interesting is when AI gets good enough to fool more than the average person.
@gracianogarciaguerrero9123
@gracianogarciaguerrero9123 6 ай бұрын
You are doing a great job at decoding all this fake media!
@Emu0181
@Emu0181 6 ай бұрын
My personal favorite is the double ended mortar round, with the Pushmi-Pullyu AK...I guess I find MADD applied to light weapons amusing
@ArnsteinTrany
@ArnsteinTrany 6 ай бұрын
Funny how people can be fooled by an image featuring guns with barrels at both ends, but thanks for explaining why this happened.
@karlshorstzwei
@karlshorstzwei 6 ай бұрын
Keep in mind most people have not seen a firearm outside a movie, let alone fired one in anger.
@JasonB808
@JasonB808 6 ай бұрын
It doesn’t even need to good AI to fool someone. My mom was totally engrossed in a video about some celebrity on her smartphone. The voices speaking were so obviously text to speech generated. I tried to tell her it was not real voices she was listening to. But she totally dismissed me because what she was listening to was what she wanted to hear. Old people are stubborn like mules.
@jerrylong381
@jerrylong381 6 ай бұрын
It's not really an age thing. It's confirmation bias. As humans we are all vulnerable to it.
@ColonelSandersLite
@ColonelSandersLite 6 ай бұрын
@@jerrylong381It's not just confirmation bias. I can't explain the how and why of it but some people have a really bad blind spot when it comes to computer generated speech and it has been a thing for a pretty long time. I want to say that I first noticed it roughly 2005ish. As bad as computer generated speech was back then, I still new a few people that literally couldn't tell. As this software improves, this is only getting worse. Was watching a video a couple of days ago and the narration actually had me fooled for a couple of minutes. Weird methods of saying numbers caught my attention and then I listened a little more closely and noticed some weird accent mixing. Numbers are very often a dead giveaway. A program will often say them in a way that no native english speaker would actually use, even if it is *technically* correct.
@jerrylong381
@jerrylong381 6 ай бұрын
@@ColonelSandersLite I'm 62 and usually can't stand text generated speech. It grates on my ears and I'll skip videos that have it, but you are right about it improving greatly in the last few years.
@ColonelSandersLite
@ColonelSandersLite 6 ай бұрын
@@jerrylong381 What I'm talking about isn't really an age thing. The people I mentioned would have been in their teens and 20s at the time and we're talking about the state of the art freeware circa 2005ish. So, you know, MS Sam and stuff. I think it's some kind of auditory equivalent of dyslexia. It's not just being tone deaf. They couldn't pick up on the seriously wrong rhythm and pacing of the generated speech. I'm not a doctor or anything so I don't know whether or not this is a known studied condition or if it's relatively unknown. I just know for sure that it exists. I expect that, like dyslexia, it probably has a range that goes from very mild to very severe. The people I was spotting in the mid to late 2000s would have to be the severe cases but today the software is good enough to fool a whole lot of people.
@makisekurisu4674
@makisekurisu4674 6 ай бұрын
It's only gonna affect the older generations who make the decisions for us all.
@NiklasMJ
@NiklasMJ 6 ай бұрын
Truthiness.. isn't that just what we call confirmational bias?
@K0sm
@K0sm 6 ай бұрын
Pretty much
@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke
@Ifyoucanreadthisgooglebroke 6 ай бұрын
Nation! Calm down, it is ok Nation. This person is just new to the truth of truthyness. They are the right place though. They know the truth in their gut - the most important part of the body for determining truth. They are just using a foreign word for it. They are here now though, Nation. Here in the right place, where we'll get them speaking American soon enough.
@timh6845
@timh6845 6 ай бұрын
Truthiness captures the essence of it in a more humorous way.
@Seth9809
@Seth9809 6 ай бұрын
Truthfulness is a total disregard for the actual truth. We all have confirmation bias, only some of us have trustiness.
@JinKee
@JinKee 6 ай бұрын
​@@K0sm"Yes, but you looked that up in a book. I looked it up in my gut." - stephen colbert
@copperknight4788
@copperknight4788 6 ай бұрын
To me the picture looks like the weapons of a Gang displayed from after a raid.
@joshuaDstarks
@joshuaDstarks 6 ай бұрын
It doesn’t even look real one iota.
@loofloof1441
@loofloof1441 6 ай бұрын
yeah its clear this image is AI
@BillClinton228
@BillClinton228 6 ай бұрын
Everything the IDF puts out is fake but Gazans just saying they are victims with no proof is totally true and we should believe them no matter what🤣🤣🤣
@Ac22768
@Ac22768 6 ай бұрын
@@BillClinton228 you’re a smooth brain.
@loofloof1441
@loofloof1441 6 ай бұрын
huh@@BillClinton228
@JustLiesNOR
@JustLiesNOR 6 ай бұрын
Even if it wasn't AI, who the fuck in any military in what is essentially an active warzone, is mounting their guns to the wall as if it was some gun enthusiasts den?
@wallyw3409
@wallyw3409 6 ай бұрын
​@@JustLiesNORthis looks like a store or a personal collection.
@ItsaLaz
@ItsaLaz 6 ай бұрын
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself and you are the easiest person to fool." - Feynman
@7piecebucket
@7piecebucket 6 ай бұрын
I thought it was really weird how the guns on the side walls all looked like they were all radiating outwards in circular arcs from a central point near the table. Like who would store guns like this? It is like someone asked an AI to draw the Big Bang, so it drew all these guns flying out of the center of the universe.
@leechowning2712
@leechowning2712 5 ай бұрын
I do not see what they are hanging on either, so it really does feel big bang.
@BIG-DIPPER-56
@BIG-DIPPER-56 6 ай бұрын
Most of those "armory" pictures look like the wall of a gun store or pawn shop. Armories store weapons very differently.
@hillelderman
@hillelderman 6 ай бұрын
I hope your channel grows to over 10,000,000. More people need to see this content
@peterwarman2010
@peterwarman2010 6 ай бұрын
Honestly I love your work. You inform without making a person feel stupid for not knowing.
@NorthernChev
@NorthernChev 6 ай бұрын
Laugh, but I had a co-worker, about fifteen years ago, who actually believed the, "Don't believe everything you see on the Internet" quote by Abraham Lincoln was real. He had absolutely no idea. And no, I'm not kidding.
@biggerdickus
@biggerdickus 6 ай бұрын
That doesn't even make sense, your friend thinks internet existed back in 1800s?
@NorthernChev
@NorthernChev 6 ай бұрын
@@biggerdickus No, he had no idea when Lincoln was President nor did he know ANYTHING about how old the Internet was. You know there ARE people out there that don't care about that kind of stuff, right?
@DanFlynn
@DanFlynn 6 ай бұрын
Good analysis. However, we must consider that as AI gets better, let's be cautious when creating standard rules such as "count the fingers" to determine truth so that future DIP doesn't pass a simple checklist
@silentdrew7636
@silentdrew7636 6 ай бұрын
Maybe, but a lot of these problems stem from the vagueness of human language combined with the fact that the Algorithm doesn't actually understand any of what it's drawing.
@DanFlynn
@DanFlynn 6 ай бұрын
@@silentdrew7636 agree, and that's with today's technology. I understand that is a good point to evaluate today's AI tech this way, yet the field is progressing so quickly that I don't know how long it will stay valid
@mikeloveless3763
@mikeloveless3763 6 ай бұрын
the two sided AK"s are a great touch.
@Develpup
@Develpup 6 ай бұрын
And this sir, is why I'm subscribed to you. I just want the truth, not to pick sides
@Jhossack
@Jhossack 6 ай бұрын
Why not, he does. The truth will lead you to the the high ground.
@bbqsnake7560
@bbqsnake7560 5 ай бұрын
Legitimately thank you for putting in the work to clarify things that may appear to be true. As a teacher it is a constant battle to correct misinformation.
@Janduin45
@Janduin45 6 ай бұрын
I mean, everyone SHOULD realize a weapon cache inside a cave/tunnel in an active combat zone doesn't look like some random gun youtubers gun vault.
@eizzeeefromstupidland
@eizzeeefromstupidland 6 ай бұрын
I’m not in the military and I would say “The fucks the ammo and the gun racks at? This is the worst gun room configuration I’ve ever seen.”
@savvaspapadopoulos7214
@savvaspapadopoulos7214 6 ай бұрын
The first time I saw the hospital "armory" I burst out laughing, bc it looked exactly how someone would arrange guns in a gun shop. I don't know about the US practice, but in the Greek Army any off-duty personnel weapons are unloaded (i.e. no magazines on), locked in their gun racks, and the ammo is stored separately, for obvious reasons. I don't know about artillery rounds, I was trained as an infantryman, but I believe the same, if more stringent precautions apply. No man with army or military experience would believe this was a real armory.
@malcolmwhitlock2772
@malcolmwhitlock2772 6 ай бұрын
One of the first things I look for is 'how practical' is it and in this image there is no walkway allowing access to the items at the back so nobody would ever store guns & ammo that need easy access like this. You then go to the point that everything in this image is placed for 'show' which again is not how anyone would store these, a simple box on the floor filled with identical guns or bullets etc is much more practical as taking one out gives access to the others and you can store many more in the limited space and still have access. Great videos so keep up the good work as you are making people think about what they are seeing.
@DemoEvolvedGaming
@DemoEvolvedGaming 6 ай бұрын
The guest really does a fantastic job of explaining why AI is making two-ended guns. Really good explainer.
@WilliamSellers-kn9yx
@WilliamSellers-kn9yx 6 ай бұрын
Just want to say you do fantastic work. It feels like most of the time, people could stand to be a lot more skeptical, especially on topics they're not well versed in. It feels like in this day and age fact checking is almost more important than putting out the facts themselves
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich 6 ай бұрын
Generative image AI is incredibly impressive until you look at the details and see stuff like more than 5 digits on hands, or hands in impossible Escher-like positions. I have no idea how the AI is able to just come up with the body poses, but something about them is oddly similar to the way the AI arranged the weaponry in the image here. Edit: And bang, Ryan provides a great explanation on convolutions and how the model generates the image. Fascinating stuff.
@hunterwyeth
@hunterwyeth 6 ай бұрын
The scary part is that this was just lazy AI. With enough knowledge, perseverance and computing power, you can create a near perfect image or modify an existing real image.
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 6 ай бұрын
One store room of AKs looks a lot like any other storeroom of AKs, it would be child's play to lie about an existing picture.
@A432Hz
@A432Hz 6 ай бұрын
People do this already, it’s called DIP
@Orangnus
@Orangnus 6 ай бұрын
AI generated pictures are pretty easy to recognize.
@mlsmodm
@mlsmodm 6 ай бұрын
For now.
@bzipoli
@bzipoli 6 ай бұрын
usually. but that pope with the big coat one was great tbh it was obviously fake because.... it was the pope on a big designer coat. but from a photography viewpoint it was pretty ok there's people who point (in general) to hands (which got pretty better tbh) or abherrations, but you can just.... crop them, depending on the composition. subject too centered? crop. and this is not including AI generated photo editing tools, which in a few services is included
@grantlauzon5237
@grantlauzon5237 6 ай бұрын
Also with AI look for things that should be symmetrical or continuous. Shirts with two breast pockets aren’t that strange but it is odd when one is square with a round flap while the other is sorta pentagon shaped with a square flap. A smooth shirt with unevenly spaced buttons. Fences made by M. C. Escher. A road with randomly placed lines and stripes. Car wheels, tire treads, and lettering ofter have the same issue (though they can be easily replaced).
@shyamdevadas6099
@shyamdevadas6099 6 ай бұрын
Fascinating! You know...28 years ago...long before AI and this sort of synthetic photo forgery, there was a sub-plot in the original film version of Judge Dredd where a digitally-forged version of a photo was analyzed and described. In listening to this explanation, there are basic, yet remarkably similar elements. I doubt anyone had a solid idea of the potential of digital photo forgery back in 1995. It's a bit terrifying to see how fast it has developed in the very few years (really months) since AI-assisted photo manipulation has been a thing. Great video, Ryan.
@edl5731
@edl5731 6 ай бұрын
As soon as I saw that image I thought it was so fake that it wasn't an intended DIP but rather an editorial comic. And I am not military experienced and most definitely fall in the group of people who would "want it to be true" As an editorial comic with the caption of "Hospital equipment in Gaza" it is spot on. As a purported actual photo it is incredibly fake.
@JohnBell3
@JohnBell3 6 ай бұрын
The big and immediate giveaway is there's nothing holding the weapons onto the walls. Or, any of the other things floating against the walls.
@stanmans
@stanmans 6 ай бұрын
Ryan, what brand of watch are you wearing?
@andrewduff2048
@andrewduff2048 6 ай бұрын
I'm still imagining President Biden calling general Austin into the oval office and asking, "How is screwing over that one E4 we talked about going" and general Austin replying, "It's the Defense Department's top priority". It's impossible for high level government officials to micromanage even important stuff. Like she said, "it's just too big"
@joelbrown3479
@joelbrown3479 6 ай бұрын
Great research brother
@MrEddieLomax
@MrEddieLomax 6 ай бұрын
The first thing that leaped out at me with that image was the 'mortar bombs' hanging on the wall, the idea of hanging something that goes bang off a high point with a hard landing is ... interesting 😱
@aaronpaul5990
@aaronpaul5990 6 ай бұрын
Well ... for me the most oblivious one was that all the weapons/ammo is basically floating against the wall
@ZeroSuitSamo
@ZeroSuitSamo 6 ай бұрын
I love that you went through and talked about all the practical reasons for why this wouldn't be a real bunker full of guns to show that it must be AI generated, when most everybody else just looks at it and goes "yeah that's an AI image. I can tell because of the way that it is." Lol. But even beyond the nonsensical "munitions" on the back wall and the malformed rifles, even something as simple as the lighting/shadows was an instant red flag to me. It just doesn't look right. Honestly, the fact that there are so many obvious issues with the image makes me think this must have been uploaded by a troll in the hopes that clueless people would believe it, because if this is the best that actual bad actors trying to spread misinformation are capable of, it's just sad lol
@michaelwittkopp3379
@michaelwittkopp3379 6 ай бұрын
Nice work Ryan. But, you don't need to go nearly that far. One look at that photo, and I see it's fake. _(I don't need to look at any of the weapons for even a nanosecond.)_ 1) Gaza is one monster sized beach, down to about 50m to 60m. It's all sand and salt deposits. 2) That's why Hamas has to go in and _"bunker-up"_ all their tunnels with concrete walls, ceilings, and floors. 3) That photo shows sandstone rock, not sand. And, not a drop of concrete anywhere. 4) And, to get any sandstone, you have to go north into Lebanon, or SE deep into Sinai. _(Judean Highlands are of the famous Jerusalem white limestone.)_
@karlshorstzwei
@karlshorstzwei 6 ай бұрын
Keep in mind most Americans are not familiar with the geographic conditions of the Levant. Heck, a lot of them think Afghanistan is mostly desert
@michaelwittkopp3379
@michaelwittkopp3379 6 ай бұрын
​@@karlshorstzwei That's a good one. When does an arid grassland, stop being an arid grassland, and becomes a desert? That's a good question. Desertification is happening in many areas. But, when do we change their classification?
@karlshorstzwei
@karlshorstzwei 5 ай бұрын
@@michaelwittkopp3379 I mean the bigger issue is much of Afghanistan looks more like parts of the Rockies than, say, Saudi Arabia.
@twolessba1087
@twolessba1087 6 ай бұрын
The ad at the end for the inaction figure was actually so funny keep it up ryan!
@Thefrogbread
@Thefrogbread 6 ай бұрын
5:43 I am henceforth requesting that this weapon be designated as the glorp because of the way that it is it fires the whole cartridge and is fully semi automatic
@baptistamercado1380
@baptistamercado1380 6 ай бұрын
The US government really needs to invest in technology to determine what is AI, and what is real. AI generated images (that aren’t touched up with adobe programs/photoshop) are currently easy to distinguish, but pretty soon, it will be completely indistinguishable.
@reddragonflyxx657
@reddragonflyxx657 6 ай бұрын
Issues: - We already make these AI detection tools to train the AI image generation tools. Researchers then try to make the generator/detection tool beat each other until they trade wins/losses and the generated images look good. - A trusted detector giving false negative results lends more credibility to fake images. - A trusted detector giving false positive results discredits real images. - A staged image is real, but can be just as deceptive as an AI generated one. A true negative result on a real image doesn't mean the image isn't "fake" in other ways. - A public detector can easily be trained against to make it give false results. - A secret detector can announce false results if its owner decides to. - We can already "fix" AI generated images manually to make them even harder to detect. - Hope for a technological solution to people lying delays adoption of real mitigations. - We've had issues with propaganda and deceptive media for generations. Technological shortcuts to verification don't solve the problem, encourage people to skip actual verification/consideration of evidence, and can easily make the problem worse.
@GenericInternetter
@GenericInternetter 6 ай бұрын
When trying to spot AI imagery, the very first thing to look for is deformities. AI is like someone who has seen various examples of something, but has no clue what each part is, and is then asked to create a new image from memory. In the image (if you pause at 4:52) on the left-hand wall you can see a rifle with two barrels pointing in opposite directions (!!!) This is a classic case of AI imagery. It's so blatant that the only people who would claim this image to be real are very stupid or detached from truth.
@jonathangibson9098
@jonathangibson9098 6 ай бұрын
Or people that only took a cursory glance.
@grandroyal66
@grandroyal66 6 ай бұрын
Like in 1984 it's the people that don't think that is the real danger. Just a TikTok glance and it's the truth.
@IIITheDeadGamerIII
@IIITheDeadGamerIII 6 ай бұрын
I'll also point out that all the things on the walls don't have any supports for the guns to stick onto. It just looks like the guns are stuck on the wall.
@SuperFunkmachine
@SuperFunkmachine 6 ай бұрын
That's often done with magnets for display. But all the gun where set up for display as wall décor not in storage .
@IIITheDeadGamerIII
@IIITheDeadGamerIII 6 ай бұрын
@@SuperFunkmachine AH! That's cool and I didn't know that! Some of the guns do look like they're just floating there, as well! Thanks for the info!
@MyDadIsBillGates
@MyDadIsBillGates 6 ай бұрын
can we just agree that AI should kick rocks already?
@JoshIdstein
@JoshIdstein 6 ай бұрын
Honestly, as someone who uses AI imagery to make up some guiding art for a book i am writing, i am just amazed by how close the AI got to making actual weapons. Cant do swords, flintlock pistols or ships, but somehow, replicates an AK pretty solidly. ... except for the double barrels lol
@kretson
@kretson 6 ай бұрын
I refuse to belive there exists a human being that thought this was real
@CamanEmpire
@CamanEmpire 6 ай бұрын
I think you could route people to look into collapsing wave functions if they want to understand a bit deeper into the processes shared for the generation of such images. But very good information!
@grenadedFalafel
@grenadedFalafel 6 ай бұрын
Watched this on substack, saw it was up on youtube and had to drop that like. Keep up the good work Ryan!
@mcdazz2011
@mcdazz2011 6 ай бұрын
Love your videos, and I love the fact that you approach them all without bias.
@larryshaw1722
@larryshaw1722 6 ай бұрын
Great video Ryan. I really appreciate you providing interesting topics along with detail information that one can use in everyday life.
@wetfishbits
@wetfishbits 6 ай бұрын
Not a weapons expert here, but I would have thought storing weapons in such a way so that you can't reach 90% of them without tripping on others would seem odd.
@tzar9395
@tzar9395 6 ай бұрын
Can someone tell me what is up with the AK that is hung up 4th from the bottom on the left wall and the 3 AKs hung up on the right wall on the bottom of those that are hung up on the wall.
@jackdaniels2127
@jackdaniels2127 Ай бұрын
Who created and circulated the image?
@user-bj8zq2lb1z
@user-bj8zq2lb1z 6 ай бұрын
For me, it was the curvature and texture of the wall, the shadowing was completely off, the back wall lacked latches holding the items up plus way too close together and the whole floor was too pretty and perfect and most importantly blocking the flow to the back. Looks like something you would see in a video game. My question is who put it up. Thanks for doing this, you are right, many would just accept this as truth. Plus I learned to look for fingers and toes in Ai pictures.
@jamestarhalla6735
@jamestarhalla6735 6 ай бұрын
Great video, especially the last part.
@chrislaws4785
@chrislaws4785 5 ай бұрын
What stood out to the RIGHT AWAY, is in the upper left corner of that photo, right next to the blue mortar looking thing, it cuts off the weapon to the left of it. LOL.
@Jebbis
@Jebbis 6 ай бұрын
That dual barrel AK looks like something Friend Computer would create for some trouble shooters to use in a mission for a game of Paranoia.
@gotalon
@gotalon 6 ай бұрын
Could you imagine storing mortars up high so that they could fall and destroy the whole room?😂
@Xandrosi
@Xandrosi 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic and informative! As one more aside, given the bombing and lack of obvious brackets or ties to keep everything in position, the idea of an area under Gaza being this neat is absurd.
@Joe-xq3zu
@Joe-xq3zu 6 ай бұрын
First thing I noticed was the one on the right side that has the mag and grip backwards. It's one of those images that the longer you look the more things you find wrong.
@kingscroach
@kingscroach 5 ай бұрын
Dead giveaway for me was the weird shadows, and some of the guns have clips sticking out 2 sides of the gun and some guns even having 2 clips, as well as that weirdness going on in the back right corner.
@tuckersabath2099
@tuckersabath2099 6 ай бұрын
Best end of video merch ad yet. And there've been some good ones.
@emikochan13
@emikochan13 6 ай бұрын
when I see people being fooled by AI this bad it makes me lose hope in human intellect.
@lcd7556
@lcd7556 5 ай бұрын
The thing that hit me was how neat and symmetrically arranged everything was, like it was from a war and weapons museum.
@JimSmith431
@JimSmith431 6 ай бұрын
What stands out to me is the lack of walkways. Looks much more like an advertisement of some kind than a usable armory.
@dave7830
@dave7830 6 ай бұрын
The first thing that tipped me off that something wasn't right - everything was to clean for and underground dirt walled bunker, and what is holding up all the guns on the walls?
@craterglass
@craterglass 6 ай бұрын
"Count the fingers." Now we just need some polydactylate presenters to *really* confuse people.
@alexmuse3565
@alexmuse3565 6 ай бұрын
Fun fact: having six fingers is actually the dominant trait in genetics meaning that if one parent has six fingers that their child will also have six fingers.
@CaptainKaos420
@CaptainKaos420 6 ай бұрын
two more AK's on the right wall have double ended barrels too lol and one on the lower right portion of the rear wall has a magazine that layered with two magazines at different angles
@muttman325
@muttman325 6 ай бұрын
Impressive Ryan. A loo with no echo.
@acfrmlc
@acfrmlc 6 ай бұрын
thank you for including the in depth dive on how these images are generated! Your content is invaluable!
@jacobchapman638
@jacobchapman638 5 ай бұрын
on the left side of the screen at 4:50 there’s an AKM with a barrel as a stock after looking closer there’s like three or four of them
@Rev_Oir
@Rev_Oir 6 ай бұрын
First thing I saw was there's no floor space. How do you access the back, walk on the guns and bombs?
@Hooligoon78
@Hooligoon78 6 ай бұрын
We used and always carried WP with us in Afghanistan. 120mm Mortars and 198 Towed Howitzers.
@brentcombrink
@brentcombrink 6 ай бұрын
Another give-away clue is the distorted rifle at the bottom right. (It's upright, leaning against the wall, 4th from the right / front.)
@alexsie3012
@alexsie3012 6 ай бұрын
“Count the fingers!” That’s such good advice. I’ve heard it before in relation to new born babies, then in relation to aliens, and now with DIP. The armoury picture is a priceless example of why it’s important to check. Ryan, I want to buy you a coffee but it will have to wait. I’ve hit my funding limit, but hopefully my account will be back in credit before Christmas. So in the meantime, wishing you and all your followers all the very best for the season. 🎉
@greywolf2809
@greywolf2809 5 ай бұрын
In this case its observe the barrel. The amount of times this photo breaks logic is insane
@DougPoulton
@DougPoulton 6 ай бұрын
First thing that came to mind was all the images floating around of Charlton Heston's basement arsenal. That ended up being a spoof.
@chessdominos
@chessdominos 6 ай бұрын
Grreat content. Subscribed. Good luck for your channel.
@runmarkrunheinrich
@runmarkrunheinrich 6 ай бұрын
At a macro level a weapons cache would need to be quickly accessible for the combatants to get their gear and go. They would need to awkwardly clamber over crap on the floor to get at any of the weapons.
@Fajita.tamale
@Fajita.tamale 6 ай бұрын
‘Not a single rifle here has a collapsible stock’ man that is soooooo true there’s no way that could be real, totally didn’t notice but now I can’t unsee it
@shanelyon414
@shanelyon414 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video, reflecting about the information we are presented with is a critical point. Think for yourself, understand your personal biases and look for further resources especially the other side of the story. Knowledge is power, enough said.
@coffeegonewrong
@coffeegonewrong 6 ай бұрын
Another one to watch for besides fingers is when AI does faces. Watch for fragments of earrings, disconnected bangs or partial glasses. Mismatched ears too though less often
@miguelangelrodriguez8999
@miguelangelrodriguez8999 6 ай бұрын
Thank you brother from another mother. Thank you both. Appreciate the lesson( especially, since our enemies want to divide us) Happy holidays dude
@yeetboi6806
@yeetboi6806 6 ай бұрын
My man I absolutely love listening to you break topics down keep good work
@joeltucci1916
@joeltucci1916 6 ай бұрын
The lighting also screams “AI generated”, those tools are very bad at creating realistic looking lighting and just by looking at that you can tell.
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