The Gear of a U.S. Navy Master at Arms

[@HaedenBeck]

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[@edog9486]

I have been waiting for someone to post something like this for years. TY

[@HaedenBeck]

No problem!

[@johnmoore7974]

I just signed my Contract of Enlistment a few hours ago as of 20231020, and I deploy to RTC on December 14, to be a Master-At-Arms.

[@HaedenBeck]

Fantastic! Best of luck!

[@Black_Cats_Of_War]

Can yo be a master at arms if your an E1 or E4?

[@NxDreams]

@@Black_Cats_Of_War MA is your job (MOS) so when you're given paperwork at your recruiting office or MEPS that's when you sign your MOS contract for x amount of time. Depends if you're doing 4-6 years. But yes, an E1 to E9 can be MAs

[@Black_Cats_Of_War]

@@NxDreams I found out that the policy was changed after 911 due to concerns for security.

[@HaedenBeck]

How's it going?

[@famemilitary1653]

Former Army Veteran. OEF/OFS. Plan on Reenlisting in this Rate within the Reserve for the Navy. We called it MOS in the Army. Scored a 39 on the ASVAB. (It’s been a long time. Since 2015 when I last took it) Hopefully I qualified for the job. Recruiter said everything looked good. Haven’t reviewed jobs yet. Waiting on confirmation if Med Waivers will be granted. It was refreshing to see Basic Training is waived for prior other service. They and the Air Force have a lot of veteran friendly prior service programs. Not sure if you got the opportunity to see or work with prior service from other branch’s. Looking forward to the opportunity if everything goes well. Excellent video and insight.

[@HaedenBeck]

Thanks, best of luck!

[@tylermiller9662]

I've been binge watching a lit of your videos because I've been wanting to join the navy and be an MA and your videos are super helpful.

[@HaedenBeck]

Glad you find them useful!

[@Galax960]

MA3 also. I recommend putting mag pouches, cuff holder, and a Molle pouch on your vest. Frees up so much space on the belt and is way more comfortable and easy to get too in my opinion.

[@HaedenBeck]

Hey there. From command to command they have different standards and stuff, one command might be alright with that but another one will say you can't do that. You said you've been in Italy for 15 days?

[@Galax960]

@@HaedenBeck nah I’ve been here 8 months. Makes sense. I have friends at a lot of different commands but I do remember some of them saying their standards for what you can wear is different

[@andresdejesus8737]

Going to Navt Bootcamp In November and I will be a Master At Arms! Can’t wait and I love watching your videos it helps a lot!

[@G4Blood]

How easy was it to get MA?

[@HaedenBeck]

No problem, best of luck!

[@andresdejesus8737]

@@G4Blood So for me it was pretty easy. I am 17 so I had a limited option for jobs but if you get above the minimum ASVAB score and you have a valid drivers license you should be good. I am not a recruiter and I can’t promise anything, but your best option is to talk to a local recruiter!

[@Galax960]

MA3 Here. Bootcamp is a breeze. You’ll have a good time and meet people. A school sucks, but is fun because of the people. The barracks are trash. C school if you go is BORING but evoc is fun (driving course). Once you reach your first command you’ll realize everything you have been taught it fairly useless minus C school. I’m stationed in Italy and work 15 days out of the month. You’ll enjoy it man! If you have any questions about anything let me know

[@Black_Cats_Of_War]

Do you have to be an E4 or above?

[@chuwawa5]

Thank you for all your videos 👍🏼 Shipping out today and then off to San Antonio after boot camp for MA A school

[@G4Blood]

Is MA often available at MEPS?

[@HaedenBeck]

Awesome, best of luck!

[@xumii4734]

Depends on your eyesight and hearing. Also you need a 170 to qualify.​@@G4Blood

[@I_am_a_Karebear]

Got MA yesterday at meps and will be shipping out on Feb 14th.. Valentines day! Then to San Antonio for A school 😊

[@HaedenBeck]

Congrats! See you out here someday!

[@chaseannas5536]

Hey, who did you get to make that custom patch with your name and insignia on it?!! 3:26 Thanks!!

[@HaedenBeck]

The nex, the store on base

[@mohammad.Du93]

Thanks man This best channel for ma rating

[@JustCarloss]

Future MA here, went to meps may 2nd and I’ll be shipping out may 23 🙏🏼

[@HaedenBeck]

Best of luck!

[@Rampage_Estonia]

Signed my contract 11/26/23. Shipping out to RTC December 6th MA

[@HaedenBeck]

Best of luck!

[@juanaguirre425]

Going to MA school on October 17th! I'm really excited

[@HaedenBeck]

Best of luck!

[@Galax960]

Good luck. I hated A school at Lackland haha. The fleet is much better

[@HaedenBeck]

@@Galax960 100%

[@juanaguirre425]

@@Galax960 is the school hard or something? have any tips or advice

[@Galax960]

@@juanaguirre425 no. Looking back it’s very easy. OC does suck but it’s not terrible. Everyone got through it. Just do not get in trouble. Your CO will be commander Breckinridge, he is a cool guy but they were cracking down on the students because of people getting DUI’s and missing curfew deadlines. Enjoy your weekend and have fun. But don’t be dumb. I saw a lot of people who went up and got kicked out of the school or the navy as a whole. A lot of people went undesignated for underage drinking. Overall it was a fun time for me I miss the people and Texas sometimes. The barracks are terrible though so be prepared for that. Enjoy your last bit of guidance before you are on your own in the fleet! Try your best to do good because the better you do the better order choices you’ll get as they let people choose from top of the class to the bottom

[@Brancovtn65]

Yo are you allowed to modify your duty weapons?

[@ericklozada2440]

I was an MP (military police) in the army...MA is the navy version of my MOS (rating/job) as similar as both are there's also some unique contrasts as well. From what I've noticed the navy's MA has certain things us MP'S don't but it also seems MA has additional things to do that in the army we do not.

[@HaedenBeck]

Well for one thing you get tasers and we don't, I believe?

[@KIWIkyle-wm4ok]

Is wearing the helmet manditory? Also are you allowed to have a knife on the belt?

[@HaedenBeck]

Mandatory at times. A knife, yeah a lot of sailors have knives on them. Most, probably.

[@ninjagaming2036]

Are you guys allowed to wear patches that say Police or military police or what are the rules for that

[@HaedenBeck]

That's another thing that changes from command to command. This command has this patch but I've seen others that just say POLICE. I heard at one command the Captain didn't like the MAs walking around with "Security Forces" patches and ordered the NSF to change to POLICE, which definitely does seem better imo.

[@mr.n54o86]

I don't recommend keeping your pepper spray (gel) anywhere on the front area. Why you ask? Well what will happen if you are getting shot at and the enemy aims for that spray? Yup full bottle of pepper straight in yo face😮. Great videos btw man. Keep it up and thank you for your service.

[@HaedenBeck]

I was recommended to do it by a first class because you can pop the flap and spray without taking it out if you have a seconds notice. I don't know what kind of Fallout VATS system they have to accurately aim for and hit my OC can, but I suppose that's a possibility hehe. Thanks!

[@mr.n54o86]

@@HaedenBeck 👍 true. Hopefully I'll run into you one day brotha. I will be joining boot camp by the end of this year and I will become a MA. Question for you... When I graduate from boot camp does the Navy pay for your family to fly out to the Navy graduation? I'm from California. Thank you sir 🫡

[@HaedenBeck]

@@mr.n54o86 No that's out of your own pocket. Best of luck!

[@brendanvalenzuela1294]

Can you use personal plate carriers/gear for duty as an MA?? Or can you only strictly use the navy’s issued gear?

[@HaedenBeck]

You can add some patches and pouches but nothing crazy. You have to use their vest and cannot customize weaponry of course since the weapons are checked out and back into the armory every day.

[@ishventurez]

fresh from c school, ill be in Bahrain in nov! MA also

[@slender169101]

Ca. I'm you customize your belt? Like. An you add ankther pair of cuffs and use a different duty belt material and all?

[@HaedenBeck]

You can add your own gear to it yes. At least in my experience yes people can and do, but it's possible not every command will allow it especially during the inspections like RASS CART and FEP.

[@JoseRodriguez-fg9rt]

In time of war, would an MA ever see combat?

[@HaedenBeck]

They're base and ship security, so they can theoretically see action at any given time. But they're not forces that are deployed overseas to see combat like infantry forces, that would be the marines and army of course. Expeditionary forces come close but those operations seem to also be defensive and not offensive in nature.

[@kingstep5746]

I currently in the Army MP corp. Army MP are down sizing and they are starting to force people to reclass. I have high ASVAB scores what are my chances to leave the Army and go into Master at Arms for the Navy.

[@HaedenBeck]

MA does not require a high ASVAB, I'd be surprised if any branch's MPs do. You don't need to be that smart to stand at a gate somewhere scanning IDs. I'd actually recommend another rating if you have a higher ASVAB, unless you really want this job which is easy by comparison to other ratings.

[@G4Blood]

What is the availability of Master at Arms contract at MEPS? Is it always available or seasonal? Is it a desirable job that everyone is after. It’s almost impossible to go active MP in the army. While in the Air Force everyone stays away from the security forces job?

[@HaedenBeck]

Air Force SFs seem to get good training, and are actually trained at the same base as us but it's not connected at all, you just see them around. I can't say for sure though, I'm not USAF. If they say MA is not available and you really want it that bad, you can just say call me when it is available. MA is probably usually available, but recruiters may try to push another job on you, or try to tell you that being an MA is some kind of riverine special forces program or something - it's not. I'm a gate guard. I can't lie to you. So I hope you don't have misconceptions about how "cool" it will be. It is possible to go from that to other cool stuff, but that's how you'll start. A lot of MAs seem to get out after 4 years or change to something else, so if you stay in as an MA you can rank up easy and fast with less competition than other ratings. Best of luck!

[@mathiasxvii]

for me I had to fight pretty hard for MA rating, When you go to meps you dont have to choose something that day, you can wait till a contract is avaliable, you dont wanna rush it because "choose your rate, choose your fate"

[@HaedenBeck]

@@mathiasxvii There he is 😄

[@jaciel.121]

it's really cool seeing future MAs in the comments, see y'all in bootcamp/A-School? 🥲

[@Hawaiian_Rolls1217]

You have your gear with you even off duty? Also how often do MAs get to travel?

[@HaedenBeck]

Yes I have my gear with me off duty, especially anything purchased on my own dime and wasn't issued by the Navy.

[@Supremebean303]

Do they offer first aid to trauma training? It’d be good to have that and add a tourniquet with chest seals.

[@HaedenBeck]

We're taught Tactical Combat Casualty Care (TCCC) including CPR and are allowed to have some medical gear but to have it you buy it yourself.

[@yeahMurph]

What brand is your Frogtop? Looks a lot different than mine. (Stationed in Japan)

[@HaedenBeck]

Not sure, it was issued to me and after the summer heat destroyed it I cut it up and threw it in the trash.

[@Metalstringman05]

are you allowed to run different holsters and a light on your pistol?

[@HaedenBeck]

No, no customized weapons or equipment like that. You can add a pouch here or there or a handcuff key or stuff like that but there's no weapon customization or changing holsters or anything major like that.

[@ThatOneIan]

how is MA A school different for fleet returnees compared to people coming straight from bootcamp?

[@HaedenBeck]

A fleet returnee will only go through C school, unless you're crossrating from another rating to MA, then you have to go through the whole thing (A school then C school) same as anyone coming from boot camp. The only difference is if you already went through the OC course in the fleet and are crossrating to MA you can skip being sprayed again, rest is the same.

[@e4mafia578]

So if you didn’t want to wear the command patch you could wear the camo DTOM one instead ???

[@HaedenBeck]

Yes.

[@e4mafia578]

@@HaedenBeck thanks I’m prior service Army looking to get back in but going the navy route this time, I’m trying to learn all the differences between army and navy

[@HaedenBeck]

@@e4mafia578 Have you made a decision?

[@VikingZeroReviews]

When you point at your rank tab and say MA3 arent you a Petty Officer Third class? I’m not in the navy I’m going to MEPS next week and trying to learn. I thought just people you work with call you MA3 name everyone else would call you petty officer name am I way off?

[@HaedenBeck]

For boot camp you call people petty officer but after that while you are indeed a petty officer if you're like an E-5 you don't say it anymore, you just say like MA2 or YN2 or whichever rate and rating they are. MA3 and Master at arms third class or petty officer third class all mean the same thing, but you only say MA3 or MA2 after you graduate boot camp.

[@VikingZeroReviews]

@ what if you don’t know what someone’s job is?

[@HaedenBeck]

@@VikingZeroReviews Don't do it until you get to a real command but I just talk to them like anyone else and say hey man or hey boss, hey dude...even if they're a second class.

[@dylanross3252]

Leave for basic in July as a MA

[@HaedenBeck]

Best of luck!

[@e4mafia578]

Who makes the vest

[@HaedenBeck]

The tag inside of it was washed out a looong time ago. But it was some US-based company I'm sure, since the law makes that mandatory.

[@rykerbutts8444]

Do diffrrnt command stations and duty’s have different kits. Or head gear etc. and can a MA go on a tour.

[@HaedenBeck]

Yes, you get different stuff at different commands. Especially if you're a different unit type like harbor, which of course will have a floating bulletproof vest versus a regular one. There's also a level of customization each command allows. But that's for your uniform, never any weapons. Expeditionary units get deployed, and shipboard MAs go underway/on deployment with the rest of the ship. Regular MAs that are attached to bases just stay attached to the base until their time is up and they go onto the next command.

[@rykerbutts8444]

@@HaedenBeckthank you! I ship out in 10 days I’m hyped my man. Your help was needed haha

[@rykerbutts8444]

@@HaedenBeckI am really interested in expeditionary groups and ship aboard for the fact of deployment. What are the chances of me actually getting that billet out of A school to do such jobs. I want the action I want to get as much as I can out of MA.

[@HaedenBeck]

@@rykerbutts8444 If you choose a ship you'll probably get hard copy orders right away since a lot of people try to avoid ships for some reason...after joining the NAVY. Expeditionary would be harder to get. Regardless of where you go there's always a chance of some "action" happening but I pray it doesn't happen because it means people are being hurt or killed and terrible things are happening.

[@rykerbutts8444]

@@HaedenBeckthanks man. I appreciate it. Being on a ship. You’ll hit a port and get deployed there is what I’m guessing?

[@YNSNAnderson]

i was thinking of doing this Rate but i don’t want things to go down (God forbid) and it’s a possibility i could be killed. do you happen to know any Navy rates that doesn’t contain a lot of math skills or math skills period ?

[@HaedenBeck]

In the military no matter what job you're in, you're fair game for the enemy to kill. This isn't like an ice cream factory or a lemonade stand, it's the U.S. military. That being said I don't feel my life threatened every day or anything, I'm just a gate guard scanning IDs for now. If you're not great at math, MA might actually be for you since you just have to be good enough to pass the ASVAB and that's the last math you'll ever see.

[@YNSNAnderson]

@@HaedenBeck and you’re absolutely right, i guess i was more so hoping that i would never be put in a position that could kill me. only because my sister did 20 years active duty in the Navy and the only time she seen combat was the USS Cole bombing, which she didn’t suffer any injuries, Thank God

[@HaedenBeck]

@@YNSNAnderson The odds are low but not zero. We're in peacetime now, and it's front page news whenever a single U.S. servicemember dies, versus the old days where thousands of troops died per day like in WWII for instance. If you join, you'll be fine, but you can't be totally relaxed and pretend the threat of death doesn't exist. Glad she came back safe!

[@Supremebean303]

If you’re able to work it out to get shore duty with your recruiter then you’ll more than likely never be in direct harm. Logistic Specialist is a cake walk rate but you could be on a ship. Hospital Corpsman you may go green side and be a combat medic for marines. Stay away from rates that are ship oriented if you’re concerned for your safety.

[@YNSNAnderson]

@@HaedenBeck even with the bs going on with chine and russia ? and i appreciate that, thank you !

[@RangerRay01]

Do you know the brand of vest that you use as an MA

[@HaedenBeck]

Unfortunately the tag in my vest has been washed out and torn off by laundry cycles.

[@percyhowmuch1890]

Are you only allowed to wear the vest off duty

[@HaedenBeck]

You're only supposed to wear it on duty and when duty ends believe me you wanna rip that thing off and free your spine.

[@GasHauler127]

Will the Navy ever add a TASER to your duty gear?

[@HaedenBeck]

I head that we used to have tasers and they were taken away because MAs kept shocking each other. 😂

[@dylanlikesfood]

Do you guys not carry tasers? I was an MP in the army and we had tasers

[@HaedenBeck]

No, no tasers. Rumor has it we used to carry them but bored MAs would tase each other on post, so everyone lost them. OC spray is worse than being tased anyways. I believe the same may be true with marine MPs, but I don't know for sure.

[@dylanlikesfood]

Oh gotcha and 2 more questions for you lol. I actually got a job offer for the civilian police for the navy and wondering if you know if they carry tasers as well and if they can use their own vest/plate carriers. And my other question was I’ve seen MAs have police on their vest but also security forces on their vest and same with the civilians so is there a difference in their job?

[@HaedenBeck]

@@dylanlikesfood civilian police for the navy, like in a contractor role? I've heard of them but never seen any, unless instructors count. I can't speak on them at all. yeah some MAs have POLICE others Security Forces, it's no different, it just varies from command to command. They fill the same roles. I would assume POLICE ones are more likely to show up at LE commands where a more traditional police function is served versus like here in Bahrain which is antiterrorism/force protection.

[@dylanlikesfood]

@@HaedenBeck yeah contractor role. Should be starting between gs7 or 8. I’ve just been looking at navy videos to try to get an understanding on yall work and rank structure. I was never good at looking at your guy’s ranks finding out your titles lol. But being an MP and also worked for a civilian department I’m sure the MA structure is no different

[@HaedenBeck]

@@dylanlikesfood Generally speaking it seems like its better to be a contractor than active duty military. I don't know if that's true, but that's how it seems. You won't have trouble with our ranks and rates for more than a month. Best of luck, hope it works out.

[@MbisonBalrog]

Do you get ear protection?

[@HaedenBeck]

For range days, yes, but for regular days at work no I never wore or was issued any

[@MbisonBalrog]

@@HaedenBeck but if issued firearms and use it while working be very loud and hurt ears

[@HaedenBeck]

@@MbisonBalrog The only time we'd fire the weapons is if something very very serious is happening where deadly force is justified. That'll never happen in most people's careers even after 20 years and if it DOES happen you'll wish it never did.

[@DaGritz_N_Gravy]

Did you get the M9 or M18 in Bahrain

[@HaedenBeck]

M18

[@tjmorrs982]

@@HaedenBeck can you carry off duty?

[@HaedenBeck]

@@tjmorrs982 No, not in Bahrain.

[@tjmorrs982]

@@HaedenBeck 2 more questions...can you permanently live there? and do you know any more overseas stations for MA?

[@HaedenBeck]

@@tjmorrs982 U.S. sailors in Bahrain are there on work visas, like temporary stays. You can't live there permanently, and I wouldn't want to to be honest. There's a ton of overseas assignments for MAs. Italy, Poland, Spain, South Korea, Romania, it goes on and on.

[@highwaypilot]

Too bad they don't give you the same authority as the civilian police officers on the Naval bases. That way you be able to do a little bit more, but I get it, the Navy doesn't want that. They should be sending you guys down to the federal law enforcement Training Center like they do the civilian federal police for the Navy... instead of Lackland. A Navy Captain in DC told a reporter last year they have a lot more powers than MA's. She was saying things like they can pursue people off the installation, make arrests off the installation and they have the authority to do that even though the Navy doesn't like it. They should train you like they do them....

[@HaedenBeck]

It complicates things that MAs are in foreign countries. We wouldn't want German police forces driving crazy and chasing after people in Los Angeles, so I'm not surprised that in most cases we're not allowed to do that in their countries. We have full authority on the base and with the assimilative crimes act the local laws merge with ours so we don't have to completely rewrite the law every place we go. How MAs perform drastically changes at every command and every type of command, and even how each individual is qualified. I wouldn't want to generalize it too much.

[@NathanUrielMaico]

In my Case I finished 2 and a half years in Nursing School in my College, what MOS I am qualify and What Rank? Could they consider my College credit? Planning to join Navy Reserve or active whats best? By the way Im 35 yrs old I Hope Age is Ok.. thanks

[@HaedenBeck]

See the getting promoted before boot camp video, your college credits will probably start you at E-2. Active vs. reserve is a personal decision but active was best for me. Max age is 41 so you'll be fine on age as long as you can run a mile and a half and do 30 pushups in a row.

[@Black_Cats_Of_War]

Can a E1 to E3 be an MA. I was told you had to be an E4 and above to be an MA. I am hearing from people now being an MA is not precluded by rank. My understanding was you had to be an E4 because they did no want non petty officers stopping petty officers. They also wanted people to know about the Navy first.

[@HaedenBeck]

So before 9/11 the MA rating was very small and was only E-5s and above. After the attacks the rating was opened up to all ranks/rates and people from other ratings transferred over. For this reason, a lot of MA officers were not only enlisted but also another rating originally like Signalman. Nowadays you can join the navy to be an MASR (E-1 MA). That's what I did. As for lower ranks stopping higher ranks, it's no factor. An E-1 MA can stop an officer. Nobody outranks the law, nobody outranks the authority of the commanding officer and the grunts who enforce their directives. There have been MAs who have stopped the CO from entering their own base.

[@Black_Cats_Of_War]

@@HaedenBeck Thanks for answering that question. There are a lot of opportunities now for todays young. Good luck in your rating.👍

[@HaedenBeck]

@@Black_Cats_Of_War Thanks! Take care

[@Keithrrr]

Squared away!

[@jimpiper5297]

W-a-a-y too much camera (your cell phone?) movement! Difficult to watch. Back in the day "rate" was your speciality where "rating" was your pay grade (e.g., your 3rd Class PO / E-4)

[@HaedenBeck]

This is the way it's always been but people have been saying rank for rate and rate for rating for decades.

[@youngbreadwinner2780]

gay police 👎🏿

[@royjonesjr1117]

Sounds like you like dookie love🥴

[@ElMCH-vb7xv]

What score do i need for this Job?

[@HaedenBeck]

I believe it's word knowledge and arithmetic reasoning adding up to 98 on the ASVAB.