The Geometry of a Black Hole

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@RecoilTechno
@RecoilTechno Жыл бұрын
As a regular PBS Spacetime et al. viewer I am glad to find this channel. I really like the more in-depth explanations and enjoy the way the animation is executed - helps me wrap my brain around these mind-melting subjects.
@triyanbhardwaj934
@triyanbhardwaj934 Жыл бұрын
What channels come under "et al."? Looking for similar creators.
@RecoilTechno
@RecoilTechno Жыл бұрын
@@triyanbhardwaj934 Fraser Cain (cosmology), ScienceClic(GR, physics), Isaac Arthur(futurism), History of The Universe (ASMR Space stuff), Wondrium (general & other science)
@triyanbhardwaj934
@triyanbhardwaj934 Жыл бұрын
@@RecoilTechno Thank you :) Love HOTU btw
@trout3685
@trout3685 Жыл бұрын
What did you learn here that you didn't know before?
@RecoilTechno
@RecoilTechno Жыл бұрын
@@trout3685 I don’t really consider myself as knowledgeable on any of the subject matter, but for instance, this particular video features a more in-depth look at the mathematical aspects.
@rhythmguild4333
@rhythmguild4333 Жыл бұрын
I always struggled with maths yet I’m obsessed with physics. These videos are great. 🙂
@artdonovandesign
@artdonovandesign Жыл бұрын
I too would _love_ to be able to comprehend the inhumanity difficult math behind Black Holes, S.R. and G.R.
@sumtensor
@sumtensor 11 ай бұрын
@@artdonovandesign Special relativity is pretty simple mathematically. You only really need to know algebra to understand it, and preferably also some basic differential and integral calculus, but it's not needed to understand the basic concepts.
@j.r.8176
@j.r.8176 11 ай бұрын
I'm the opposite lol You can have a subject explained in physics terms and I understand nothing. The same subject explained in abstract mathematical terms and I have a much easier time of understanding it.
@Ernthir
@Ernthir 10 ай бұрын
@@artdonovandesign "Inhumanity" is a noun. You can't use it as an adjective. Maybe "inhumanely" difficult mathematics. But it is strange to use that word here. Math doesn't have any motive that can be described as being inhumane. You could use the word "inhuman" maybe... If you want to use it to describe how "difficult" the math is would become "inhumanly difficult math". But who cares we know what you mean XD
@Micro-Moo
@Micro-Moo 10 ай бұрын
@@Ernthir "Inhumanity is a noun". You are perfectly right. But the entire statement using "inhumanity" is also wrong semantically, and this semantic, and, I would say, methodological fallacy is even worse. Humanity is the attribute of the human. Frankly, every time I see the word "math" instead of "mathematics", I don't expect anything related to real mathematics. 🙂
@Diaming787
@Diaming787 Жыл бұрын
Every new video I watch about how the geometry of spacetime is constructed, I'm blown away for how Einstein came up with it!
@mastershooter64
@mastershooter64 Жыл бұрын
Well...he didnt completely invent it, there is a field of mathematics that deals with all this called differential geometry that has existed since before einstein was even born, he used it (with the help of several other mathematicians) to formulate his brilliant ideas and make quantitative predictions
@peterdamen2161
@peterdamen2161 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the concept of spacetime is wrong 😞
@stomas4744
@stomas4744 Жыл бұрын
@@peterdamen2161 really?
@peterdamen2161
@peterdamen2161 Жыл бұрын
@@stomas4744 Really!
@Nosirt
@Nosirt Жыл бұрын
@@peterdamen2161”I am withdrawing my theory on account of dr. Prof. Peter of KZbin comments expert opinion.”- Abe Lincoln
@miinyoo
@miinyoo Жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant visualization. The toughest thing to get your head around (which on its own isn't) is the transformation from Inertial coords to Accelerated coords and back again to demonstrate what's really going on. Otherwise, this makes perfect sense.
@andyhughes8315
@andyhughes8315 Жыл бұрын
From a Linear Algebra perspective, I think its transforming the Inertial coordinate vector relative to a change of basis. Then viewing the inertial coords in the new basis. Dr. Trefor Bazett has a video about it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/qWWqdGmwpLp_n5I
@TristanCleveland
@TristanCleveland Жыл бұрын
Yes, that was a crucial beat, and it was a bit fudged. But otherwise excellent.
@tursinbayoteev1841
@tursinbayoteev1841 7 ай бұрын
At 9:42 is the ruler really seems to distant observer contracted when when proper distance increased? Isn't he mistaken?
@-_Nuke_-
@-_Nuke_- 4 ай бұрын
"This makes perfect sense" So can you explain to to us? From this map, I still don't understand the causality of Gravity... Is spacetime that causes Gravity? Or Gravity just exist withought us knowing why, and we simply just generate a map of how spacetime looks around the object that is causing Gravity? If Gravity isn't a force, aka - we have a spherical object that is expanding "outwards" all the time - and thus its surface will eventually "fall" onto an inertial observer... Then WHERE is this object expanding to? It is obviously not expanding towards any of the 3 dimensions of space... And to say that "space is falling in like a waterfall" is NOT answering the question either... IF there is another dimension in which a spherical object - due to internal pressures - can expand its surface towards - then what is the name of that dimension? Is it time? I don't understand...
@Bitzy
@Bitzy Жыл бұрын
i’m watching this at 2am with barely a highschool understanding of math and i just wanted to say that the way you describe things is perfect! particularly the diagram with the hill. i felt that “aha” moment and this video is constructed in a way that i can actually understand the basics of what’s going on! fantastic job
@taramarielmt
@taramarielmt Жыл бұрын
I followed immediately after watching! This is the most meaningful information I've found so far on youtube! I didn't have the opportunity to realize my dream of becoming an astrophysicist, but my obsession with learning about it has never gone away. I'm so grateful for science communicators who give others the opportunity to understand and learn!
@trout3685
@trout3685 Жыл бұрын
Most meaningful information? Really? What is so meaningful? What did you learn that you didn't know before?
@alwaysdisputin9930
@alwaysdisputin9930 Жыл бұрын
@@trout3685 This is what I said under DrBecky's video called 'JWST confirms MOST DISTANT galaxy!' _"@Dr Becky - did you see Dialect's vid 'The geometry of a BH'? It's interesting. What I learnt is: Greenland's too big on some maps but you can change it to the correct proportions by saying "shrink it here by a factor of 3.5 & here by 1.5" etc. In relativity there's a thing called a metric tensor which contains those destretchification numbers e.g. 3.5 & 1.5. Around a BH, space's stretched too much so if I am holding my banana, it'd become a spaghettified banana & the metric tensor says [your banana's stretched by a factor of 2000]"_
@justanotherguy469
@justanotherguy469 Жыл бұрын
You do not have to be PH.D'd t or ordained by some university to make an amazing discovery. Follow your heart and your dreams will come true.
@benjamink2398
@benjamink2398 Жыл бұрын
@@trout3685 bro what are you on about lmao
@tursinbayoteev1841
@tursinbayoteev1841 7 ай бұрын
At 9:42 is the ruler really seems to distant observer contracted when when proper distance increased? Isn't he mistaken?
@drottercat
@drottercat Жыл бұрын
If there were a Nobel Prize for methodical explanation, you would get it. Speaking slowly and clearly is a big par tof it.
@caveman36
@caveman36 Жыл бұрын
Each episode ends in a cliffhanger, getting you closer to but not quite there to the full picture. Absolutely amazing videos and the progression allows you to actually grasp the concepts easily.
@dialectphilosophy
@dialectphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching and glad it helped your understanding!
@Stargazer10255
@Stargazer10255 Жыл бұрын
I guess the last episode will also end in a cliffhanger 'cause at some we stop knowing what the duck is happening
@tim40gabby25
@tim40gabby25 Жыл бұрын
Even with sound off, subtitles on, this was beautifully clear. Well done.
@alexandrekassiantchouk1632
@alexandrekassiantchouk1632 Жыл бұрын
Einstein's theories (both SR and GR) are 50-50 mix of reality and illusion. Reality of time dilation, illusion of objects and space bending. You might need to check story on Medium: Illusions of Einstein and Rotary Blades Curving
@abcde_fz
@abcde_fz Жыл бұрын
. FINALLY !!! THIS IS THE FIRST TIME, in all the videos I've ever seen, where the 'rubber sheet' analogy was effectively replaced with an understandable 3D representation, using the 'multiple cone' model you used. It's about time someone did this. I've been waiting years for it...
@you2tooyou2too
@you2tooyou2too Жыл бұрын
The trampoline illustrations, should have the membrane pulled toward the center of mass, not pushed away from it. (sigh)
@ScienceClicEN
@ScienceClicEN Жыл бұрын
Fantastic video as always ! It left me eager to see you tackle the inside of a black hole, maybe in a next video ? I was thinking about how the scaling terms of the spacetime slices become imaginary under the horizon, and how this could be related to a rotation maybe ?
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 Жыл бұрын
I've heard explanations claim that space and time flip inside the event horizon, which would actually be fairly consistent with a rotation like from i.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 Жыл бұрын
Check out PBS Spacetime channel. They've done a couple videos on that.
@nikgracanin6180
@nikgracanin6180 Жыл бұрын
ScienceClick and Dialect are hands down the best non-uni level physics educational channels.
@davidgoldgruber8541
@davidgoldgruber8541 Жыл бұрын
This embedding was invented by Rickard Jonsson, PhD, as far as I know. Can not give you a link, because YT deletes those comments instantly. He generalised this embedding to include the interrior and to the Reissner-Nordström-metric. I think that it is impossible to generalise it to Kerr or Gödel or anything 'rotating', but RN is very similar to Kerr.
@davidgoldgruber8541
@davidgoldgruber8541 Жыл бұрын
The final boss of black hole visualisation/understanding is Donald Marolf's embedding into Minkowski. In my opinion, that is much better than that 'space is falling'/Gullstrand-Painlevé approach. I wanted to make a video on Donald's embedding, but am I lazy man :/ . I hope that eventually either you or maybe Dialect will make a video about it, to show its beauty to the greater public.
@mastershooter64
@mastershooter64 Жыл бұрын
An absolutely brilliant deconstruction of the ideas of Riemannian Geometry and General Relativity, this should be shown in every GR class in the world. Beautiful visuals and wonderful explanations! You sir, have gained a like and a subscriber!
@dialectphilosophy
@dialectphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your support and appreciation! Hope we can continue to illuminate the mathematics and philosophies behind these advanced topics in physics for y'all in the future!
@garytafoya8859
@garytafoya8859 Жыл бұрын
Right 🤣
@genericjoe4082
@genericjoe4082 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazed by the fact that this channel still doesn't have a 100k subscribers. The visuals and explanations are simply wonderful.
@raptoriks12345
@raptoriks12345 Жыл бұрын
Because out there are not so many "smart" people who really enjoy math Luckly I am not one of them :)
@nlee1943
@nlee1943 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the new video! Your team always does a great job balancing visual aids with careful explanations. It is hard to be so clear about a topic as nuanced as general relativity, so I appreciate the time and research you all put into the videos. Looking forward to the next ones!
@YokoX23
@YokoX23 Жыл бұрын
I like how you're doing this slowly enough for anyone to pause and take notes.
@PSG_Mobile
@PSG_Mobile Жыл бұрын
Each one of your videos adds a new piece of a big puzzle. It is very satisfying to realize how they link together to tell the same story. Really great work!
@trout3685
@trout3685 Жыл бұрын
Can you explain what piece this video added and what pieces were in place before this video?
@larrytemen4789
@larrytemen4789 10 ай бұрын
Do you always tell your car “great work” for functioning? Cause telling an AI channel “great work” is essentially the same thing.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 Жыл бұрын
This is probably the best explanation of spacetime curvature I've ever seen, as a layman.
@maujo2009
@maujo2009 Жыл бұрын
This video needs a sequel where you offer a visualization of the Spacetime of a black hole past its event horizon.
@darrennew8211
@darrennew8211 Жыл бұрын
Check out PBS Spacetime channel. They have a few of those.
@tlldrkhndy
@tlldrkhndy Жыл бұрын
Watch the SciencClic episode of how Time and Space switch when you enter a black hole.
@Lord_and_Savior_Gay_Jesus
@Lord_and_Savior_Gay_Jesus Жыл бұрын
Anyone who does offer such a visualization is basing it off of unfinished data or a broad generalization based on our understanding of physics, considering the physics we know breaks down past the event horizon. It'd be like asking someone to create a visualization of God, which is impossible.
@xaverstenliz8466
@xaverstenliz8466 Жыл бұрын
if he can, he get the nobel price 😀
@maujo2009
@maujo2009 Жыл бұрын
@@Lord_and_Savior_Gay_Jesus I thought the inversion of the spatial and temporal coordinate past the event horizon was part of that visualization. Is that an incorrect assumption?
@TeamSkeptic
@TeamSkeptic Жыл бұрын
This is definitely one of the better visualizations on how gravity is derived from the tensor equation. Good job. A future video suggestion : Explanation of how the Schwarzschild equation suggests that the event horizon has an escape velocity of c, and how that is merely a mathematical convention. As traveling faster than the speed of light, if it was possible, wouldn't allow you to escape out of the black hole, beyond the event horizon. I've seen a few good explanations of it, but few have the presentation quality that you display. Again, great video!
@GeoffryGifari
@GeoffryGifari Жыл бұрын
i don't know if this has been mentioned before, but i think its cool that your narration is not too fast, especially for topics like this
@thetinkerist
@thetinkerist 9 ай бұрын
I know this is from a year ago, but this video shows one of the best visual constructions of how gravity emerges. I love this! Everyone slightly interested in physics should watch this.
@csimet
@csimet Жыл бұрын
Probably the best visual explanation I've ever seen of this topic. Relatively easy to understand. Good job!
@DenverDonate
@DenverDonate 9 ай бұрын
This is the most amazing visual explanation on the topic of how gravity works and black holes. Nothing else on KZbin even comes close.
@realcygnus
@realcygnus Жыл бұрын
Superb content ! As usual. I've never seen an explanation quite like this.
@trout3685
@trout3685 Жыл бұрын
Is it really that much more clear? Things go into the black hole. What did you learn here that you didn't know before?
@jack.d7873
@jack.d7873 Жыл бұрын
An absolutely brilliant presentation again. It's the visuals + mathematical explanations of physics that makes this channel (imo) among the best of human creation. A good teacher is able to clearly explain un-intuitive concepts to those who've never encountered such ideas. It may have gotten a bit technical for complete beginners towards the end, but dialect teacher's masterfully. Spacetime taught like this can change the world.
@Eric-Marsh
@Eric-Marsh Жыл бұрын
This is very helpful. Something that is mentioned that I find very interesting is that not only time but space contracts near the event horizon. This seems symmetrical to how space expands in regions without a lot of mass. Can you do a video showing how all this works with a rotating mass?
@user-ot7lv8su1b
@user-ot7lv8su1b 9 ай бұрын
You sir have no idea what you have done here. Best visiual/explanation i've ever seen. You're doing Gods work.
@northernalberta
@northernalberta Жыл бұрын
I don’t even want to imagine how much work went into making the graphics for a video like this, well done!
@petersmythe6462
@petersmythe6462 Жыл бұрын
The funny thing is that even neutron stars we can perfectly well see can be inside their own photon sphere, meaning they negate or invert centrifugal force. It's not just that light isn't fast enough to orbit them that close. It's that their surface geometry is flat or concave so no amount of speed will actually let you escape horizontally. Similarly, as you approach a black hole, it is no mere optical illusion that the universe sinks into an infinitismal point and the event horizon becomes all-encompassing. The event horizon is in fact deeply concave at every point.
@celtickitty6547
@celtickitty6547 Жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant way to explain this concept! In university (way back in the 80s, sigh) we were given equations for things like how an event horizon looks mathematically, but there just wasn't this kind of detailed explanation. I really wish I could have gone to school in today's world. We had to use Fortran to write code for our astronomy classes, (another heavy sigh & some slight head banging because, argh Fortran).
@openyoureyesandseethefutur5802
@openyoureyesandseethefutur5802 4 ай бұрын
Gravity is pretty crazy, maybe more complicated than crazy, maybe more mysterious than complicated , im glad KZbin is trying to figure it out
@shearemy1157
@shearemy1157 Жыл бұрын
I still have to wait a year or two until I can take GR, but I smile at the thought of "gravity is a bunch of rotating bullet-shaped spacetime manifolds that give the illusion of a gravitational field" lol. I remember my introductory QM professor talking about some "folding up" of a geometry with regards to this question so it was awesome to see visually. Also, gonna start calling the tips of bullets "singularities" from now on, thanks. :D
@dialectphilosophy
@dialectphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching, and glad you enjoyed it! (And technically, we were imprecise when we used the term "manifolds" in the plural -- it's all actually a single manifold. If you change what radial line you are on, you would sort of "hop" from one rolling sheet to the next.)
@recifebra3
@recifebra3 9 ай бұрын
This is so well done man!! It's crazy people figured this out w/o proper visuals - I guess they just figured it out in their heads.
@nice3294
@nice3294 Жыл бұрын
This is such a great video, I've never actually seen anyone properly visualise the curvature of spacetime around massive objects to this level of detail/accuracy
@NeroDefogger
@NeroDefogger Жыл бұрын
it's just a sphere, the "curvature of spacetime" is not a real thing
@C.K.MillerPoet_Extraordinaire
@C.K.MillerPoet_Extraordinaire Жыл бұрын
I have insane trouble understanding high school algebra, and I failed my first attempt at the GED math test, but for some reason these videos explaining high math concepts are super fuckin interesting, and easier to understand than finding the fucking goddamn formula for finding the slope of a line. Thank you for being a good teacher
@mighty8357
@mighty8357 Жыл бұрын
You are so good at visualizing topics. Excellent work!
@nicreven
@nicreven 10 ай бұрын
This made no sense until the end At which point everything made sense I've never considered the idea of every object having an event horizon before. Great vid!
@GaryFerrao
@GaryFerrao Жыл бұрын
What software do you use for your animations? It's really helpful to the explanations.
@poseidonguy3940
@poseidonguy3940 Жыл бұрын
Doug Demuro's tongue is huge?
@GameADKZ
@GameADKZ 8 ай бұрын
This is what im searching since i was still a kid and the only thing that they put on display are just 2d form of explanation and no one except you that was able to put this.. thank you
@willo7734
@willo7734 Жыл бұрын
Wow, i’ve been interested in relativity for decades since I was a teenager but this is the first time I’ve seen this explained where I can grasp it intuitively.
@NeroDefogger
@NeroDefogger Жыл бұрын
same, I could understand it until I realized that... there is nothing to understand, you can't understand something that is not real
@FulgenceMalvenue
@FulgenceMalvenue 3 ай бұрын
@@NeroDefogger Except that black holes are real, and even if they weren't, it would still be possible to understand them.
@NeroDefogger
@NeroDefogger 3 ай бұрын
@@FulgenceMalvenue I wasn't talking about black "holes" (neutron objects)
@FulgenceMalvenue
@FulgenceMalvenue 3 ай бұрын
@@NeroDefogger what were you talking about, specifically? What is it that one can't understand since it's not real?
@NeroDefogger
@NeroDefogger 3 ай бұрын
@@FulgenceMalvenue einstein's "relativity" or what I call absolutivity
@johnculver9353
@johnculver9353 Жыл бұрын
Love your content and while it’s outside my field, I enjoy the challenge of at least trying to grasp superficially if not conceptually.
@BangkokBubonaglia
@BangkokBubonaglia Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. Thank you so much. You can stare at the equations all day, but to see it visualized this way is truly enlightening....even if slightly wrong.
@elio7610
@elio7610 Жыл бұрын
Is it enlightening though? All of the spacetime curvature stuff has made no sense to me. I get the impression we need to completely rework our language for any of these concepts to be explained accurately.
@flambambam
@flambambam Жыл бұрын
@@elio7610 Or... just learn the language of mathematics.
@elio7610
@elio7610 Жыл бұрын
@@flambambam Fair point, i guess, still, it seems like language has been failing to keep up with everything. You can argue that is what math is for, yet people still try to describe stuff in english. It seems like an issue that extends beyond science, langauge failing to adequetely describe reality and leading people down all sorts of weird logical paths to argue over fictitious concepts. Apparently, people treat language as an unquestionable tradition and claim it can't be improved. Maybe there is no perfect language, there certainly is language that works better for specific uses than others though. I am convinced language is being treated too much like a religion when it could be more practical to treat it as a technology.
@flambambam
@flambambam Жыл бұрын
@@elio7610 Semantics can be tricky in that regard. The interpretation of verbal language varies per interpreter, and mathematics helps remove that ambiguity. It works well within its own domain, but the translation process between the mathematician and the layperson reintroduces that ambiguity. One practically has to specialize in both mathematics and verbal language to effectively and correctly portray the concepts being discussed. For me, it's easier to develop an intuition for math than it is to put that intuition into words. It's almost like describing a sense to someone that has never experienced it, except we created a new sensation and are now attempting to describe it using previous knowledge. It's hard to understand because we aren't hardwired to understand it.
@enderplant
@enderplant Ай бұрын
with all the geometry, trig, algebra, and arithmetic I know I still cannot comprehend this video
@leapdaniel8058
@leapdaniel8058 Жыл бұрын
When the whole manifold of spacetime comes to a point, as you mentioned at 15:30, the r coordinate is r=2GM/c^2. The time-time component of the metric tensor goes to 0, so it makes sense that everything converges to that point. But by the same token, the radial-radial component is infinite, right? So it seems to me that if the radial distance of that point is infinitely far away, you'll never actually reach it. Some modern physics discussions talk a lot about the problems of knowing what's beyond the event horizon. But if nothing actually ever gets to the event horizon, then isn't the answer simply that: there's nothing beyond the event horizon? Because nothing ever falls in that deep, as it would have to travel an infinite distance to do so?
@1300thiago
@1300thiago Жыл бұрын
To a outside observer it's exactly what happen, but to the free falling to the black hole observer he would travel a normal distance, while the rest of the universe fast foward in time up to the end of the universe... then die
@CleverNeologism
@CleverNeologism Жыл бұрын
You are not wrong. From the POV of a distant observer, nothing ever reaches the event horizon... it slowly approaches it, and dims as it redshifts and asymptotically approaches the horizon. It's not that it's just infinitely far away... it spacetime after all. It's also infinitely in the future. From the POV of the object falling in it takes a finite (and short) time to reach the horizon and whatever is beyond it. Consider the transformations he shows to convert between inertial and orbiting (accelerated) observers in the video. In doing that rotation, and combining it with curved spacetime, the space and time dilations undo each other, and you get a finite distance and time travelled by the falling observer (i.e. they are reciprocals). 2D space is not 2D spacetime: imagine each ring has a vector between 0 (at the distant observer) and pi/4 (tip) attached to it to represent the Lorentz rotation applied in order to keep the orbital lines parallel in the diagram. This introduces the "twist" he shows for inertial observers that fall in.
@flambambam
@flambambam Жыл бұрын
But what about the stellar core that formed the black hole? The matter at the center of the star would already be beyond the event horizon because it existed there before it formed.
@leapdaniel8058
@leapdaniel8058 Жыл бұрын
@@CleverNeologism (and @Greathigo ) So there's this idea that an outside observer (let's call her Alice) never witnesses anything cross the event horizon, but an in-falling observer (let's call him Bob) crosses it. I have a followup question. Suppose, long after Bob has already jumped in, Alice also jumps in. As we said, in-falling observers cross the event horizon. So Alice must cross it. But now, she also must observe Bob cross it at some point before she herself does, since Bob jumped first. Is this so? If so, it would suggest that there is some non-zero distance from the event horizon at which you actually can witness things cross into the event horizon. Also I'm not sure I understand what rings you are referring to. Are you talking about the green rings corresponding to time axes at individual "points" in space?
@leapdaniel8058
@leapdaniel8058 Жыл бұрын
@@flambambam My guess would be that, at least from our perspective far outside the black hole, the whole stellar core would be smeared on the black hole surface. Any two particles in the stellar core have an event horizon, right? From our outside perspective it would take forever for one particle to cross into the event horizon of the other.
@SritharanSrikanthanBigBoss
@SritharanSrikanthanBigBoss Жыл бұрын
You must be a genius..Animations and explanations are out of the wold...
@CosmicCustodian
@CosmicCustodian Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for video! You've helped me and many others finally visualise better 3D gravitational effects around a BH. It's been bugging me for years tryna to conceptualise it in my head and this video pretty much gets it on point, bravo dude 👏🏻❤️
@whirledpeas3477
@whirledpeas3477 Жыл бұрын
awsome comment dude.
@darlananan7201
@darlananan7201 Жыл бұрын
One of the best videos describing the effects of the curvature of space time with visualization i've ever seen so far
@bluescreen1137
@bluescreen1137 Жыл бұрын
Hi, I'm a little confused when you talk about the motion on the manifold 12:08. I mean that I don't understand why you consider two observers. Why is it necessary to accelerate to maintain the radial distance constant in the first place. Isn't that what is supposed to result. I thought that free-falling objects approach massive bodies simply because if you follow the proper time, that's where their future leads. What I want to say is that the visual representation should point out the fact that if you draw a geode on the manifold then you inevitable would approach the massive body, right???
@elio7610
@elio7610 Жыл бұрын
Recently i have been thinking about all the simplifications and visualizations i see in explanations of phenomena, i am not sure if am learning or being mislead. The issue is trying to teach complicated concepts while skipping all the complicated details, the question is: Does any of it communicate an accurate and useful explanation or is it more often misleading people into believing something wrong? Language use can be just as misleading as visuals, so i do not think visualizations alone are the sole concern.
@PSG_Mobile
@PSG_Mobile Жыл бұрын
If I got right... The inertial object moves on r direction following the curvature of spacetime, in this case the distance r decreases as it moves on time direction. The only way to keep a constant r distance in this curved spacetime is to accelerate in the opposite direction. The non inertial observer is not necessary to explain the motion of the inertial object, it is just to show how the inertial object moving on the curved spacetime looks like a free falling object from the point of view of a stand observer in r direction.
@dialectphilosophy
@dialectphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks for watching! You're correct to point these issues out. One of the first things we learn in General Relativity is that objects follow their natural geodesics on the curved spacetime manifold -- but clearly here the inertial objects do NOT follow geodesics. The typical answer most physicists will give is that because we have used a euclidean surface to represent a hyperbolic one (spacetime distances involve a negative sign) geodesics will take a direction "opposite" to what we expect. However we suspect that the mismatch between geodesics and inertial worldlines are more related to the fact that this surface is constructed from the accelerated perspective (which would constantly introduce an "offset" to the manifold's straight paths, making them non-straight). Many physicists, even the highly credentialed ones, don't understand acceleration in relativity very well, so it's possible once we re-construct the manifold from an inertial perspective, geodesics and worldlines will match up. We hope to resolve this issue and provide a fuller explanation in future videos. As to why one needs to accelerate to maintain constant radial distance, we suggest checking out our video "The Sky is Falling Up" for more on that.
@dialectphilosophy
@dialectphilosophy Жыл бұрын
@@narfwhals7843 In the original script, we addressed this issue, but for time and flow and comprehension purposes, we cut it. Mainly, because it involved a whole discussion about acceleration in GR, and, well, you know how well that's gone over in prior videos. It's not unfair to accuse us of being misleading here, as the mismatch between geodesics and inertial worldlines here is definitely a major omission and source of confusion. However, unlikes *some* channels, we are fully prepared to address why we made such an omission, and moreover, do intend to clarify it in future videos.
@bluescreen1137
@bluescreen1137 Жыл бұрын
@@dialectphilosophy Thank you :) Now it's much clearer. I rely more on intuition because I don't find enough time in my life to study physics properly. So when you did that transformation there, my brain stopped.
@StatsScott
@StatsScott Жыл бұрын
What an extraordinarily informative video! I’ve watched a lot of explanations of black holes and spacetime curvature but this one is far and away the best yet.
@zair_salahuddin
@zair_salahuddin Жыл бұрын
Wake up honey, new Dialect just dropped
@lumi2030
@lumi2030 Жыл бұрын
there are so many dialects nowadays
@kissrichard86
@kissrichard86 Жыл бұрын
especially that you understood, what dialect is about in scientific circles is not important
@Handle_Spark
@Handle_Spark Жыл бұрын
😢😅❤
@kulwant..
@kulwant.. Жыл бұрын
😂😊😅
@SignatureSignsSouthampton24
@SignatureSignsSouthampton24 Жыл бұрын
So we are not speaking of a linguistical dialect or colloquialism of sorts. What we are really discussing is the speed of light and how exceeding it, may cut you off from the laws of the known universe, or exceed the laws that allow you to perceive those laws visually or mathematically. Personally I think black hole is large fork that spins space-time around like spaghetti, forming large twine like ball of linguini-like universe all rolled up small enough to exceed the laws of regular universe. If universe was a large quilt these would it be spots that God jam a fork into and twist around to hold things in place like tacks or to be like drain pipes for the universe that empty into impossible 4 dimensional spaghetti twirling forks of universe!
@mwdiers
@mwdiers Жыл бұрын
Ok. This time I finally got it. It all clicks now, and I see exactly where you have been going in your explanation of how mass acceleration + space-time curvature = Newtonian gravity. Curvature of the space-time manifold balances acceleration such that for any given mass (the earth, for example), the physical dimensions of the mass become stationary relative to any fixed point in the manifold. The explanation was right there in your diagram of the inertial observer vs. the accelerating observer. As the mass is accelerating, it may not blow up, but my mind sure has. Well done!
@annegajerski-cauley8324
@annegajerski-cauley8324 Жыл бұрын
A very accurate and lovingly done production -bravo! I would have no reservations in presenting this to an introductory relativity class. Bur as they say, and you imply, good teaching involves the gentle stripping away of simplifying lies and distortions.In this context I would simply caution any student to not take the use of the eyeball, in representing the observer's local frame, too, too literally. The issue is one of comparing events as located in highly useful co-ordinate systems for the manifold, like the Minkowski coordinates used throughout here, using measurements such observers might make. This should not be taken as what would literally and immediately be seen by a local astronaut, as light travel time and path over macroscopic distances would as a rule give distorted personal results. The student must be reminded to think in terms of measurement possible in some local (proper) frame (free-falling or not), as if "present everywhere at once" at some proper time instant, to avoid certain pitfalls (alluded to right from the start). Notwithstanding, a very nice primer on actually "handling" curved spacetimes! All the best, D. Barillari, PhD.
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 Жыл бұрын
Damn, another channel on par with Science Clic English. What a time to be alive 🤩
@DemoniteBL
@DemoniteBL Жыл бұрын
What's with all the anti-science comments here? lol Sad to see just how ignorant people can be. Good video btw.
@gahan09
@gahan09 Жыл бұрын
One of the best visualization of Gravity and Black Hole............ Just Awesome.... You can even explain same concept with pencil and sharpener...
@jimmytiddlytoo8160
@jimmytiddlytoo8160 Жыл бұрын
If you fall into a supermassive black hole you’ll see the whole universe pass through billions of years before you’re spaghettified
@HansangVibration
@HansangVibration 8 ай бұрын
whoa this video was actually EXTREMELY well done! The visualization was impeccable, especially that of the inertial frames of reference! Great job
@lewisheasman
@lewisheasman Жыл бұрын
You lost me at 0:01
@kguynchkh
@kguynchkh 4 ай бұрын
Underrated comment
@GalaxyNewsRadio_
@GalaxyNewsRadio_ 2 ай бұрын
Dumb person discoverd
@GalaxyNewsRadio_
@GalaxyNewsRadio_ 2 ай бұрын
@Atomic-19-s2h everone gets that the part we don’t understand is the equations, which you don’t get either, stop acting smart
@GalaxyNewsRadio_
@GalaxyNewsRadio_ 2 ай бұрын
@Atomic-19-s2h 🧢
@Dekoherence-ii8pw
@Dekoherence-ii8pw Жыл бұрын
This bit of the visuals 14:20 blew my mind. That's hella trippy!
@Ohrapell
@Ohrapell 9 ай бұрын
Shit Im so high and This is a bit of a different video than I expected. The info is not like science pops, it is clearly in-depth. Since I am interested in the topic of quantum physics and astrophysics, I like this kind of content very much. But not this time :) It lasted me 5 minutes
@juniorcyans2988
@juniorcyans2988 10 ай бұрын
This 18 minutes video took me hours to finish. Thank you so much for making such a profound and complicated topic understandable! So luckily I found this video when I searched for topics on black hole, as I'm learning relativity and topology this semester!
@extreme4180
@extreme4180 Жыл бұрын
Damn the animation, the voice, the explanation everything's so good
@arjunv
@arjunv 9 ай бұрын
Had thought a lot about what space time curvature actually means and the impact of black holes on them, and wrote an article on the topic. What if blackholes basically act as a pinch on the space-time, adding a pull to the expansion of space time? Wouldn't that lead to miscalculations such as the age of universe? And if that's the case, the super massive galaxies of today would be miniscule blackholes formed right after big bang, as they expand with time. Their presence could have led to more mass accumulating near them, causing the formation of galaxies. As they become bigger, this "tension" would increase to a point that the gigantic black holes would pull everything back and a big-crush would follow. Leading to another big bang.
@AdmiralSpaceballs
@AdmiralSpaceballs Жыл бұрын
in being an amateur astronomer as a hobby there is a certain indescribable joy in the mathematical part of my hobby . meaning i understood nothing from the non-picture part of this but i loved it all the same
@ignetiusjrelly
@ignetiusjrelly Жыл бұрын
Just for this topic alone of Geometry of Black hole you have me as your subscriber. Very informative content as well. Great Job.
@PoopsieSquirtle
@PoopsieSquirtle 2 ай бұрын
Ok i think i literally need this channel. Arvin Ash is my mf man when it comes to conseptualizing physics, but a channel that helps me understand equations as a layman.. Ive long searched for you sir, it is an honor.
@causeitis
@causeitis Жыл бұрын
Incredible explanation and visualization! Keep making more, this should find a bigger audience!
@IntelR
@IntelR Жыл бұрын
I think the best part of this visualization it's the construction of it, not the final product It doesn't really say anything rather then gravity curves spacetime and "attract" bodies But seeing the metric stretching pieces of spacetime and the inertial body being naturally attracted by this deformation it's pretty cool, especially in this level of detail. Nice video I don't think there is a nice way to visualize the geometry of GR because of the 4D nature of it, but I'm really hoping that someone change my mind
@angeldude101
@angeldude101 Жыл бұрын
Probably the most interesting thing I noticed is that areas seem to be constant. No matter how close you get to the surface, the area of a given grid square remains the same, the stretch of space perfectly counteracting the compression of time.
@tappetmanifolds7024
@tappetmanifolds7024 Жыл бұрын
Well observed. You might like you tube videos describing Nash's embedding theorem.
@369Sigma
@369Sigma Жыл бұрын
I dig it. Just subbed, can't wait to binge your old stuff and see what's next :)
@kevnar
@kevnar Жыл бұрын
I was always confused by the old "sagging mattress" visualization of gravity. It didn't make sense, because it still needs some sort of higher-dimensional gravity to make the objects roll into the sag. But now I get it. Amazing.
@julianrobertson1869
@julianrobertson1869 Жыл бұрын
I still don't. Even with this geometry there would still need to be a gravitational pull but it does a good job of exemplifying the effect that gravity has on the curvature of spacetime.
@neri4950
@neri4950 Жыл бұрын
Your video is AMAZING. The only source out there on the internet that truly explained to me space-time curvature and black holes. Hats off, respect, and keep up the fantastic work and videos.
@armorkny
@armorkny 10 ай бұрын
I really like the pauses in this video. Gives you some time the sink the information in. A lot of youtube videos just chungus their way through the video like adhd children.
@aquamanGR
@aquamanGR Жыл бұрын
Very nice presentation. This is one of my favorite explanations of the Schwarzschild metric.
@ranganramasamy6820
@ranganramasamy6820 8 ай бұрын
The best explanation I have come across for a black hole!
@sajawalhassan1f12
@sajawalhassan1f12 Ай бұрын
Absolutely phenomenal way to explain curvature of space-time, thank you so much!
@benallan5835
@benallan5835 7 ай бұрын
this was genuinely insane, such a cool visualization
@98_sam_
@98_sam_ Жыл бұрын
This is the first video I see from you, you are a genius! If you haven't done so already could you make the visualisation of the Big Bang? Everywhere it's visualised as a cone stretching outward from a singularity in one direction but I guess I'm missing the bigger picture
@joshcryer
@joshcryer Жыл бұрын
This is quite possibly the best mathematical translation of how spacetime works. It would be impossible to actually visualize it in 3d space, but you somehow managed to illustrate the mechanism. It also proves two things, that the Hegalian time is wrong, and that everything in spacetime is constantly and forever moving at at c. Matter moves at c through time, light moves at c through space.
@Agnom
@Agnom Жыл бұрын
Kudos to you. This has got to be the best visualization of the spacetime warping at the vicinity of any large bodies.
@TLMuse
@TLMuse Жыл бұрын
This video strongly reminded me of Andrea diSessa's "wedge" formalism for understanding general relativity, as described in his 1981 article in American Journal of Physics, "An elementary formalism for general relativity." This approach has recently be extended by Robert Scott in a 2021 paper in European Journal of Physics, "Visualization of flat and curved spacetimes with simple cartography tools." Viewers intrigued by this presentation and wanting further details should seek out those articles. As an astrophysicist who has done some work in cosmology and high-energy astrophysics, this has long been my favorite way to understand and explain spacetime curvature. -Tom
@dialectphilosophy
@dialectphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Do you have any links to those works? It'd be great to share -- the only work we're aware of that resembles this so far is that of PhD Rickard Jonsson.
@BlastFXTrading
@BlastFXTrading Жыл бұрын
I don't know the math behind these ideas, but I'm watching, consistently.
@jsEMCsquared
@jsEMCsquared Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the visualization gravitational anolomilles are hard to imagine. You spelled out a neat way to imagine them. Your thumbnail pic showed another way to also visualize the effects in 3 d. I would like to see that.
@conformist
@conformist Жыл бұрын
dude this is amazing. as someone who didn’t study physics but always had interest, this is soooo good. thank you and please continue making videos
@civrosado9912
@civrosado9912 Жыл бұрын
This video needs to be played in every high school and undergraduate physics and math classroom
@JayronWhitehaus
@JayronWhitehaus Жыл бұрын
This is probably the best video I've ever seen on curvature. Absolutely astounding. Well done!
@ariannasv22
@ariannasv22 Жыл бұрын
This gives me educational video you've seen at school vibes but more entertaining
@davidmcneil2296
@davidmcneil2296 7 ай бұрын
9:06 the way you stretch and shrink the matrices in these matrix and how you have it in a grid, actually makes sense whe it comes to how gravity can distort time and space. The way our stretch and shrink a square in a graph just made so much sense when I was watching this. It made me think of interstellar.
@jasonbaines7569
@jasonbaines7569 Жыл бұрын
I have study General Relativity for many years, including two semesters of General Relativity in college. It is one of my passions. I would be happy to call out any wrong information in the video, but i can find anything wrong. This is a well done video about the Schwarzchild metric. Great job!!!! Looking forward to the next one.
@GamersClips420
@GamersClips420 2 ай бұрын
How underrated is this
@martini_panini
@martini_panini 3 ай бұрын
I did a university course where we specialised with this and it didn't make sense back then. I just needed to visualise it this way because I feel so much more confident working through these types of problems! Very demure, ate that subscribe button up.
@coen226
@coen226 Жыл бұрын
We have the new future of science channels among us. I’m glad I’m arrived to enjoy the show🙌🏼
@bryantwiltrout5492
@bryantwiltrout5492 Ай бұрын
It’s interesting to see the process by which black holes gather matter towards their event horizon visualized with the coordinate plane by using spacetime as the x and y axes. That’s cool as hell. There’s some stuff missing though, like how objects orbit around massive objects, but I knew you weren’t bringing that into this. It’s really cool
@JonathanRegalo
@JonathanRegalo 10 ай бұрын
I greatly appreciate the time and effort that it takes to create these videos. Very well done.
@tristanwegner
@tristanwegner Жыл бұрын
Fresh way to explain space time. I like the level of explanation you hit!
@yukterez
@yukterez Жыл бұрын
2:04 - that is not the Schwarzschild coordinate chart, that's the Chern Simons metric in Schwarzschild-like coordinates. In the real Schwarzschild metric the worldlines at r=0 need to be horizontal. Other than that the video is 👌
@ChrisLehtoF16
@ChrisLehtoF16 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on the viral video!
@dialectphilosophy
@dialectphilosophy Жыл бұрын
Appreciate it :-) Thank you for being our subscriber!
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 Жыл бұрын
Using the Schwarzschild coordinates alone is not a good choice, because of the "coordinate singularity" at r=2Gm ( at the event horizon). The interior spacetime geometry is totally ignored in this video. For those interested, the interior *spatial* geometry of a Schwarzschild black hole is that of a 3-tube ( the 3-dimensional analog of a cylindrical surface) that is the product of a 2-sphere times the line. These " 2-spheres " ( that are cross sections of the spacelike hypersurfaces r=constant, for r
@-vale-rio1556
@-vale-rio1556 Жыл бұрын
this is the most clarifying video about tis topic i have ever seen, thanks man, really, i struggled to understand precisely the relacionship between the event orizon and the time warping.... and its been years i thinked about it and rearched videos about it, you made it crystal clear
@davidgoldgruber8541
@davidgoldgruber8541 Жыл бұрын
Rickard Jonsson's embedding of the Schwarzschild metric into an Euclidean ambient space (presented in this video) is very cool, but Donald Marolf's embedding of the Kruskal-Szekeres metric into an ambient Minkowski spacetime is waaay more informative and better for visualisation, in my opinion. That one does not contain these annoying coordinate-singularities, and is geodesically complete. (Explains black holes, white holes, Einstein-Rosen bridges, sphaghettification, gravitational time-dilaton/redshift and how space and time 'switch places' below the horizon at the same time, and finding geodesics on that surface is as easy as finding them on the sphere.)
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, this coordinate singularity at r=2Gm of the Schwarzschild coordinates gives the wrong impression that there is a "discontinuity" there, while spacetime geometry is perfectly smooth on the horizon. And this presentation leaves outside the interior...
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 Жыл бұрын
@@narfwhals7843 No, there is not a discontinuity in the *spacetime geometry* . This coordinate "singularity" is only an artefact of the Schwarzschild coordinates. It does not appear in other coordinate systems (e.g. Kruskal, Eddington/ Finkelstein etc). The curvature scalar ( that is independent of the choice of coordinates) remains finite on the horizon ( it only diverges at the curvature singularity r=0 ) and the transition of the r=constant hypersurfaces from timelike outside to spacelike in the interior is smooth ( the horizon itself is a null hypersurface). Events in the interior ( the trapped region) cannot influence causally events outside , but that does not imply that something funny happens with the geometry on the event horizon.
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622
@dimitrispapadimitriou5622 Жыл бұрын
@@narfwhals7843 If you're talking about the light cones as they appear in a diagram that uses the Schwarzschild coordinates ( that shows a discontinuity near the horizon, both from outside and from the inside), then this "discontinuity" is, again, artificial. Locally, a free falling observer won't notice anything when crossing the horizon. Only a hovering observer, that tries to remain just above the horizon accelerating madly could notice that the outside visible universe seems " compressed" to a 'dot'. In an Eddington/ Finkelstein diagram ( like the one that was drawn by Penrose in his famous Nobel prize winning paper) it is clearly shown that there is no discontinuity ( the light cones bend towards the interior in a continuous manner). That's why I mentioned before the smooth transition ( from timelike to spacelike) of the constant r hypersurfaces from outside to the interior, respectively ( this is a more accurate phrasing of the "switching between space and time" as the pop science media call it ). This transition is directly related with the causal structure. The "one way only" transmission of signals is a characteristic of causal horizons ( not only those of black holes, but also the Cosmological event horizons like in a deSitter spacetime). There's no real discontinuity in all these event horizons. They are lightlike hypersurfaces, like the light cones are.. There are , indeed, horizons ( the so called Cauchy horizons, like the ones in the interior of rotating black holes ) that are unstable and they can develop "weak null singularities " , so they're not smooth , but these are another story.
@Mateolochi
@Mateolochi 3 ай бұрын
What a masterpiece of explanation. Great video!
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