The gig is up: Mayweather/Japan fiasco shows what a tough spot he's in…

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Floyd Mayweather was recently in Japan to promote a New Years Even fight in Rizin, but things are not looking good for Floyd. Chael Sonnen breaks it down on his You're Welcome podcast.

[@zoobee]

this Japanese kid will always be able to say and market himself as the phenomenon who frightened Floyd Mayweather

[@dustysafrit6094]

Such an awesome way to spin it 😂👍

[@kylethomas9885]

Facts

[@MrRandomTwat]

He and Rizin came out great in this. Rizin got a lot of attention to their brand and Tenshin became a star... if he will continue to shine is to be seen but atleast for now, people know his name and there will be probably 1000 times the attention on his fight. Floyd came out looking like bitch though.. which sucks, because I am a big fan of him as a boxer.

[@berettabarnes2395]

Lol yeah right

[@kufujitsu]

Exactly. He will forever be known as the only guy Floyd back out of fighting when the fight was agreed to.......big blunder by Floyd.

[@westhamboy95]

Floyd thought he was getting a mega pay day until he converted yen into dollars

[@westhamboy95]

010010000101 010100101 hater

[@Blinkurdead]

Lmao

[@westhamboy95]

010010000101 010100101 you’re clearly so cool and original that you’re getting but hurt over a KZbin comment

[@supertrooper3870]

@010010000101 010100101 u must also hate having to take a shower after eating a whole bag of Cheetos.

[@Coins.com.]

😂😂😂😂

[@designybits4709]

Chael spent all these years making us believe he had a co-host in there with him.

[@otistebeats3958]

Larry Games | We ARE the co-hosts, every single one of us watching the video, that’s the beauty of papa Chael’s podcast

[@AGCcachanilla]

lmfao

[@Willie-go6dc]

Larry Games speak for yourself

[@100mphFastball]

Chael has me convinced his leg is up on the table.

[@mr.hostetter855]

He talkin' to Jesus and Jesus know he right.

[@theavengersofficiall]

Chael Sonnen is the type of guy that still talks to himself after the recording stops

[@Larrypint]

Haha nice picture,greetz from Germany

[@elcochiloco385]

Gold

[@llewbach77]

I bet he's barred from his local library!

[@jacobleb420]

Spoiler alert there's no one in front of him, he's talking to a wall the whole time! lol

[@crfdln]

Amen.

[@thlin]

*Chael* *is* *pound* *for* *pound* *the* *greatest* *rambler* *in* *the* *world*

[@Kraterlandschaft]

AND technically undefeated. It's insane

[@mhia4]

His shit talking is a thing of beauty

[@jasonruka1665]

So good....

[@toplobster740]

The real question is just how good an analyst is Chael P. Sonnen?

[@Mr.T-BAGGIN-UR-MOM]

Does a bear shit in the woods?

[@whateverstopsthetears547]

Not only is Chael P. Sonnen undefeated and undisputed, but he is the pound for pound best analyst around.

[@yourdaddy.956]

Dumber than Patrick from sponge Bob. May weather vs Conor clearly was staged..

[@smokeydesperado742]

the best. Dumb question.

[@zaphyros2518]

Get a life!

[@billyballepaltnacke451]

tony ferguson the type of guy that still cuts weight after the weigh in

[@1990sodapop]

Gold

[@Brentrades]

Lolll

[@michaelr.4878]

That is actually the kind of foolish thing that Tony Ferguson would say. I can totally hear him telling a reporter after a weigh-in, 'Yeah, I"m just going back up to the hotel room to lay in the tub and cut a couple of more pounds. It shows my opponent my mentality and prove that I am willing to die'. He would totally say something stupid like that in an effort to make himself seem tough. The guy can definitely fight...but he isn't playing w/ a full deck.

[@SuperSohSo]

Lmao this the funniest one

[@thejam69]

Tony Ferguson, the type of guy who is getting sick of soft cocks talking about the type of guy he is!

[@justincarnes1]

Chael “ I was wrong but here’s why “ sonnen

[@richardma8591]

Haha, he’s terrible at predicting anything

[@Larrypint]

Thats how you handle a wrong

[@harryd7197]

"Floyd got off the plane walked up to a bus and tried to feed it a carrot.. i kid you not"

[@JustYKnowY]

Harry D “woah there big fella”

[@Airyed]

Kenny you LIAR!

[@richardjenkins1195]

Harry D is that true?

[@Andrew-fn9oc]

@@richardjenkins1195 ... That happened.

[@MOTIVATIONBYDAR]

Chael is right even when he is wrong....

[@DanielVazquez-og2xu]

The Tony Montana from west linn oregon

[@JohnSmith-mo2sv]

undefeated

[@nawzy202]

Chael does not know wrong

[@davidbanner9344]

Amen Bro!

[@mazkebar]

Dario Alexander correction! Chael is wrong, EVEN WHEN he is right...!

[@Vipox92]

Chael P Sonnen......... The P stands for undefeated

[@drippinsauce3006]

Your the real mvp

[@Hafnooz]

@@drippinsauce3006 The real mv-undefeated*

[@Daniel-yo5es]

undefeated except for all the times he has been beaten

[@mattbates5904]

Daniel jokes aren’t you strong suit are they?

[@Daniel-yo5es]

@@mattbates5904 yeah.. I like jokes... what's that got to do with this?

[@mandemjnr7605]

*Chael looks like a former School Jock from the 80's that was nominated 'most likely to succeed'*

[@fauxbro1983]

Can you argue with his success? He's never lost a round and has billions of listeners and trillions of dollars

[@hamschh]

he looks like a cartoon version of a jock from high school that all the girls have a crush on. You know the ones where they draw the chins really large and chiseled and they look like little ass cracks

[@dariocourtney765]

Looks like one of the Jocks on Romy and Michelle if you remember that movie 😂😂

[@michaelBodhiBhakti]

Very funny

[@hairystyles9794]

@@fauxbro1983 at least trillions.

[@Boudica234]

A lot of comments reflect complete ignorance concerning basic finance. Just because Floyd (or anyone else) has "billions" in real estate or "billions" in assets doesn't mean they are financially secure or ok. Real estate costs a LOT of $$ to maintain between maintenance, insurance, taxes and year round staff. It does not generate a nickel of income unless u rent it out or sell it. Floyd's exotic car collection and vast collection of high end jewelry similarly cost big $$ to maintain and insure while providing zero income. It's called negative cash flow. A lot of u people forget that after a lifetime of fighting, Floyd needed $$ from the McGregor fight to settle an 8 figure tax bill with the IRS. Chael is 100% correct. Floyd NEEDS the $$ to maintain his lifestyle. He cannot replicate $100 million paychecks without fighting period. Floyd's problem is that he has grown accustomed to the lifestyle of a billionaire (similar to Johnny Depp) without the continuing cash flow to sustain it. Floyd is going to have 3 choices (1) keep fighting as long as he can to keep the gravy train rolling, (2) reduce his lifestyle and sell 80% of his shit (which his ego won't allow) or (3) go into debt. It seems there is a chance Floyd could go bankrupt 5-10 years after fighting unless he changes course. He should. His "money" Mayweather image is shallow, narcissistic and played out. How many fucking cars, boats, houses, jewelry is enough to fill whatever void is there?

[@alejandrotapia5800]

He does have more than you will ever have in your whole life

[@Boudica234]

@@alejandrotapia5800 Gee, I never thought of that. Hey moron, the issue isn't whether Floyd has more $$ than me or u. The issue is that he HAS to fight because he is bleeding $$. Get your head out of your ass.

[@Oppenheimer1967]

Boudica X I’ll trust Forbes a lot more than I will Chael Sonnen who we all know would jump at the opportunity to fight Floyd LOL

[@Boudica234]

@@Oppenheimer1967 Ben-Forbes focises on net worth-NOT cash flow. If Floyd was cash rich, he would not have had to use his McGregor paycheck to pay an outstanding IRS tax bill that was over $10 million. If u think Floyd is pursuing these fights for the love of the fight game (and not the $$) u are delusional.

[@danieladdy2637]

@@alejandrotapia5800 "Having" is irrelevant you fool! Example, you "have" a brain - you also happen to be inept at using it!

[@julianmillo1459]

Floyd: I am a smart businessman Also Floyd: I made hundreds of millions but somehow I have crazy debts so I fight everybody but boxers

[@keydaaq1805]

Apparently needs money but just bought a new house

[@notserious6458]

@@keydaaq1805 probably why he needs money

[@islandstartv9985]

@@notserious6458 why should he stop making money because he has a lot of it, makes zero sense

[@vasiliyignatyev6555]

@OutAtSea lol you think all his shit is cheap its cost him at least 7 figures a years just to maintain his business and he doesn't bring enough to make it last a life time that was the point he use money like it never runs out

[@jonatanassefha3938]

Floyd is not as rich as people think, he just showing off... These people get ript off over and over again, it's an institution to rip of boxers.

[@RyboXBL]

But what does this mean for Kevin Lee?

[@claireslattery7]

RyboXBL 🤣🤣🤣 Lol

[@Raymanray85]

My g 😂😂

[@VicenzzoCK]

lol :D

[@stoinge]

lol

[@edconway8599]

That jokes old

[@jamesjames6679]

Really appreciate these videos

[@neildonlon3072]

Chael has spoken

[@RobWitchdoctor]

Yes and it's nearly always excellent. But it's the English language, not the American language Chael!

[@BlackGeniusGod]

Clearly

[@alcottdevalte7440]

Floyd wanted to box khabib but uncle bobby dana said no and offered him to fight inside the octagon which he said no to do, floyd tried to make something happen in japan amd messed up.

[@nikjones5952]

alcott devalte who the fuck wants to see Khabib box Mayweather? Dana did us all a favor. If Floyd wants to swing nuts come to the UFC otherwise, kick rocks.

[@jacksonjacob7791]

Floyd boxing Khabib would be one of the most pointless stupid fights ever. Fight should not even be sanctioned.

[@jacobhartmann1050]

Exactly.

[@Enigmatized13]

The Yakuza check under their beds for Chael Sonnen before they go to sleep.

[@thejam69]

In the fear that he will appear and talk their fucking ears off, lol!

[@rlsjunior797]

Haha so stupid but it made me lol. Thanks man!

[@waseerahman3734]

Tenshin Nasukawa is so underrated 😅

[@collinwhite7332]

Always love listening to you put your two cents in! Lol

[@PeterParker-hl6il]

Chael pretty much has an opinion on everything. Can't wait for the vid on which toilet paper brand is the best! Chael hurry cuz I just ran out!

[@creigmacc]

COSTCO...

[@PeterParker-hl6il]

@Mixedhero Ok then let's talk some toilet paper

[@rustysutton]

peter, dungeon of death is he one you wanna buy

[@MegaBagera]

Chael doesnt wipe

[@1hansety1]

Chael could always decide to have no opinions about fighters, but Captain obvious tells me that would be very bad for his career as a fight analyst. Great comment, as long as you are in fourth grade.

[@tonywest1486]

Ur the best man !! Love your vids !!

[@crfdln]

The thing that amazes me the most about Chael is that he is able to say all that in one breath. How does he do it? 19 minutes. Amazing!!

[@armorers_wrench]

Probably a good thing for Floyd, had he actually had a kickboxing bout with tenshin he would have gotten destroyed. Hope we get to see that kid in UFC, that kid is a star in the making.

[@umso4l]

Nick yeah how many successful Japanese fighters do you know have thrived in the ufc

[@taimoorshahid5168]

yea that kid floyd, hes really good, would love seeing him in the ufc

[@healthywiseandfit]

Kazushi Sakuraba earned the nickname Gracie Killer after defeating Royce Gracie, Royler Gracie, Renzo Gracie, and Ryan Gracie. He is in the UFC Hall of Fame. There are other Japanese fighters who have done well in the UFC. Kyoji Horiguchi, Yushin Okami, and Genki Sudo are some of them.

[@xxxdannyXMurphyxxx]

@@healthywiseandfit should have never got that fight with Gracie in the pride tournament tho that was some real bullshit. he lost the fight clearly over the first 15 mins and because he was the home fighter they changed the rules mid fight to give him a shot

[@umso4l]

bhkbjj I’ll give you kyoji and genki but yushin is decent at best. But look at all the Japanese fighters who came from pride they either sucked or were mediocre in the ufc except for kazushi. Pride has been accused multiple times for fixing fights just saying 👀

[@Pinstripedood]

The question remains, just exactly what type of dude is Tony Ferguson?

[@wheelchairsnake2534]

Jacob LaBruzzo lo

[@jdharmanr]

A stoner

[@Taabituubi]

The type of guy who eats his pizza while it's in the oven.

[@mseeseesupermeatboy7333]

Nice vid man

[@j.a.5711]

Chael, I watch your shows every day and have seen plenty of your fights. Just wanna say I'm a huge fan! Keep up the great work!

[@2degrees421]

Whether Chael is a great analyst or not is debatable. What I have noticed that I am impressed with is that when speaking he does not say "Ummm", does not seem to get his words disheveled or trip over his own thoughts. Believe it or not that is very difficult to do when the camera is on. If you dont think so, give it a try & see how many times it takes for you to discuss a topic of your choice for 15mins. This guy has had some great training.

[@chrisfraser3435]

He was great on Donald trumps Celebrity Apprentice

[@scottandrada5827]

It’s god-given gift

[@alcottdevalte7440]

Maybe floyd got paid to say some good words at the press conference to make rizen known, or his 100 kickboxing rules didn't work.

[@eddya.3776]

I think your first idea is very close. I really don't think Floyd cares what anyone thinks about him. I think he got paid to bring eyes and boy did he.

[@thekidnamedcudi8850]

Then why would he turn around and say they scammed him? Wouldn't he just wait a few weeks and come up with another excuse like say they couldn't work out the tv rights. On what planet would a company pay to have a major celebrity say they ripped him off?

[@omargutierrez8840]

It was to build up Tenshin not floyd and floyd got paid

[@samme79]

Floyd couldve just said rizin wasnt able to afford him and it wouldve been fine. And yet he came up with a lot of bullshit that seems like he didnt get the rules that he wanted

[@alcottdevalte7440]

I think floyd just got paid to show up and talk nonsense, his team wrote the statement on social media. Floyd is too arrogant to write that stuff.

[@luciferslettuce]

Chael is honest 100% of the time he's so truthful and honest priests confess their sins to him!

[@vine191]

Loved this, it's might first time listening to the channel, really pleased that floyds games were spelt on so clearly

[@osunaarashisthirdroundcard8362]

But this all brings us back to one question: Just how good is RIZIN's PR team?

[@EE-tg9yz]

Chaels mouth runs on atomic energy so it never stops speaking

[@aaronmnsky]

I really like listening to Chael give his thoughts, very articulate.

[@nicholasdifabrizio1115]

Definitely one of the most intuitive commentaries

[@itshiho]

These MMA people are delusional when it comes to the Mayweather/Mcgregor fight. Anyone could see that he was dragging the fight along for entertainment purposes. He didn't use any of his defensive skills and was just walking straight because he knew Conor had no chance. There were even rounds where he basically didn't even throw a punch and after the fight he went to play pickup basketball. These guys need to wake up.

[@tonym5093]

itshiho Agreed.. I like Connor but Floyd was definitely in control the whole time & only let the fight go on for entertainment purposes, he could’ve ended the fight anytime he wanted..

[@zlistcelebrityYT]

Agreed

[@Matthew-of9sp]

The whole contest looked like best friends who were both light sparring.

[@antianxi4595]

they hate the fact conor lost lol

[@Don-sc1vz]

Agreed. I'm a big fan of all combat sports and respect them all. No hate towards Conor but he had zero snap on his punches. Floyd wasn't even slightly worried about Conor's power. I never expected Conor to have a chance but I was still surprised at how Conor was "pushing" and "sweeping" his punches. I was at least expecting to see some pop from McGregor's left cross.

[@Showgunkhan]

I agree with this on everything except that Chael is saying that Conor hung with Floyd for 10 rounds. The reality is that Floyd said he was going to carry to fight and make it entertaining because of the lack of action in the Pacman fight. He even bet on him self that he was going to end it in the very round that he did. Sonnen is way off on that point.

[@justinromine4338]

Skunk at the garden party. Should be on a T-shirt. 👏🏼👏🏼

[@SwagJuice11]

I love hearing Chael talk.

[@btdrunkartist8292]

Bisping:God bless him Me:Chael bless him

[@Cos_Why_Not]

The Notorious BeNac Me: Chael blessed God

[@MrGloryglorymanutd18]

Mayweather is becoming irrelevant

[@michaelr.4878]

At this rate...with his spending habits, I can honestly see Floyd getting into porn. Not that there is a ton of money in porn anymore...but I can totally see him pitching this grand, new concept, 'Pay Per View Porn with the Champ'.

[@adamolastero3728]

wait until he's broke

[@franciscopizarro5424]

Jane Gavin nut everyone is talking about him and he hasn’t fought in over a year lol

[@mmsizzlak3726]

Becoming?? Lol... He has been irrelevant for awhile now, irrelevance equals no money and that's the most logical reason as to why he decided to fight McGregor.. McGregor's star at the time was rising like a meteor on crack and Mayweather was smart enough to cash in on that train while McGregor's value was at it's highest

[@jomana4517]

He has been irrelevant ever since he fought Corrales, unless you like to see men rum, hug and clinch for 12 rounds.

[@jackjohn9628]

Tony Ferguson is the type of guy who puts on his amateur wrestling gear to go watch the full undercard before his main event fight in a hotel lobby bar that is down the road from the venue where the fights are taking place.

[@hunteressthompson5878]

At first glance I thought I could see studio Chaels knee, upon further inspection I've realised I was looking at the largest slong in West Lynn Oregon! Damn Chael, taking up half the screen, mirin

[@sallgoodman2323]

Conor showed floyd that he could cherry pick non-boxers safely and make money, now he's looking for the next easiest gig

[@Airyed]

Yeah exactly why he wants Khabib

[@electriceyeslide5959]

What Chael doesn’t get is this: CHAEL IS PRINCIPLED AND FLOYD IS NOT. A PRINCIPLED person does what they say. An unprincipled person DOES NOT do what they say. Floyd may be one of the greatest to ever do it, but no one ever said he was a man of his word. In fact, history has shown that he’s of poor character and has not stuck by his word many times before. I won’t bring up Floyd’s penchant for hitting women (couldn’t resist =P). Floyd has avoided many fighters before and this is a lot of the same. Floyd always backs out when Floyd knows he might lose. I do not respect his 50-0 because he should be 49-0 (the Conor fight shouldn’t have counted against his record, it should have been an exhibition fight). Floyd cherry picked fighters with analytics and built a perfect record by fighting fighters who he and his team knew he could beat, not the best fighters of the time. It’s still amazing Floyd has a perfect record, not taking away from that, but it’s a spurious perfect record and the fact that Conor went 10 rounds with him only proves that. Don’t expect these idiots to have your good character Chael, they don’t!

[@MordanAMann]

Chael is principled?! Lol he took roids to fight Silva

[@electriceyeslide5959]

Yohmamas Mann Do you have PROOF of this??

[@davidgrimes2763]

great speaker chael could listen to him endlessly interesting man

[@gunfighterdrummer]

Love how Chael points that shit out at the end.

[@albertalbert7958]

Chael keeps trying to guess Floyd businesses. For all we know Floyd can get over 100 millions per bout, either fighting MMA fighters, boxers or kangaroos.

[@tariqkhan-fp6qn]

Tony Ferguson is the type of guy when he's sleeping he's wide awake..

[@JGAbstract]

cute intro chael and video guy!

[@stuartkavanagh7462]

I could listen to Chael all day

[@daraider1254]

No shit "The Money Team" isnt real, But Mayweather Promotions is...."The Money Team" is no different than Team Garcia, Team Pacquiao, Team Spence, Team Thurman etc....Its the name of the Fighter and his Team....Come on Chael

[@ShrimpZoo]

Floyd is the only boxer who refuses to actually fight a real boxer.

[@OneManGSG]

He was 49-0 fighting real boxers

[@jasonsmith-ss5gm]

47-2 (cuz he DIDNT beat Castillo or Oscar)

[@1990sodapop]

@@jasonsmith-ss5gm 47 -3 you forgot the first maidana fight

[@jasonsmith-ss5gm]

Actually it could even be 46-4 cuz ALOT think Pac-Man beat him too!

[@OneManGSG]

@@jasonsmith-ss5gm he definitely beat Oscar & Pac, I think if Maidana would of won 1 more round he would have won. He just needed 1 of the last 4 in my opinion.

[@kingeshuzthefirst8002]

16:24 I love how much cheal steps on floyd 🤣 beautiful piece of work lol

[@2ndEarth]

SUBs are up... Chael deserves it better than anyone I listen to about the UFC!

[@whatever_it_takes6691]

Would love to see Floyd versus Chael in a street fight

[@MrGloryglorymanutd18]

Chael would fuck him up

[@Krogrosen]

Chael would win for sure

[@steven209]

Chael would mount him full guard and murder him lol

[@normand5847]

Chael would butt fuck Floyd. I mean, if he felt like it.

[@e.e121]

Even if they were equally skilled in MMA and Boxing, a fight between them would be one sided. Chael is twice his size. Now factor in his skill set

[@jstdru]

Apparantly the rules to the fight were gonna be 3, 3 minute rounds, with no kicks allowed so basically a 3 round boxing match with mma gloves lol What a joke!!!!

[@dylanmcdowell5924]

Once he is in there in the ring Tenshin would have kicked him in the head

[@brettgabel4477]

More than accurately true.. japan is good at leading a situation on and changing it in the moment of calling.. pro wrestling back in the day at least, US wrestlers would get 'potatoes' and more or less beat to shit, and not told anything other to figure it out..pride was no different in setting up wrestlers to actual fighters and letting them get destroyed.. or the rare fixed shit like with mark coleman with his 'performance acting tap out'.

[@spicymustardhotdogs394]

He backed out because it didn't say "no elbows or knees" it just said no kicking.

[@steven209]

I'll rather see that than a 12 round boxing match

[@jameswalker4291]

I didn't realize Connor didn't even get sanctioned for that fight

[@xJester23]

Undefeated and understated the great chael sonnen

[@JamaaLS]

LOL at Floyd watching this

[@tonym5093]

Jamaa L I love Chaels show but that part had me laughing

[@skimaskway6430]

Floyd is obviously too scared for his record and 4 boxing in general

[@jackcollin1695]

He care for his record than the money he will get.smh. he should've not be called "MONEY MAYWEATHER"

[@chefsmithable]

Chael, when should I start my son in wrestling?? He will be 4 in March, and he's 3'7, and 54 ibs. How young is to early.??

[@108shepower]

well said Chael.

[@djoleme2510]

Fedor tapped

[@Mr.T-BAGGIN-UR-MOM]

Premature stoppage

[@BlackGeniusGod]

Clearly

[@sanadayukimura1615]

djoleME !!!!!!!!!!! how many fcking times is Chael gonna let these scrubs off!?!?????

[@sanadayukimura1615]

djoleME although yeah Bader Fedor whatever... crock of crap to me@!!

[@Taabituubi]

@@sanadayukimura1615 Chael is too much of a gentlemen to ruin Fedors evening. Let him think he won, we all saw what really happened.

[@kershekfamily]

Chael - I have to disagree with you on the opinion that boxers had of the May/Mac fight. I don't know any boxer that came away respecting Conor more as any boxing fan saw 1.) Floyd carrying him for a few rounds, 2.) Floyd take the best shot that Conor can deliver, 3.) Floyd showing so little respect for Conor's punching power that he walked him down unlike any other legitimate opponent Floyd has faced, 4.) Floyd get his first finish is year - which is why he was known as pillow hands. For the UFC, Dana got a bit of exposure, but he severely, severely damaged his product. As you correctly pointed out, Floyd inflates his PPV buys and fight winnings - but, I think Dana probably outdoes him in this regard. You were there, I am sure you know. Rampage Jackson has already lifted the veil so no need for you to comment and damage the business further. Yes, fighters are making much more than they did during the Dan Severn years, but they are not making anywhere near the dollars that Conor is claiming. As a result of the May/Mac match, the UFC is now at modern age low in terms of interest. Woodley drew 150K? DC/Stipe 400K? My money on Khabib/Conor is that it did 1.6M even counting discounted purchases outside the US. What does Dana have to say the day? - JBJ? I don't think Dana realized how little interest there is in JBJ at this point. As some perspective - the first packed - and I mean packed - bar I went to for a UFC event was Sonnen vs. Silva. I have seen other packed houses since - Lesnar fights, Conor vs. Diaz (especially the rematch), and this latest Khabib/Conor fight. But, even with Khabib/Conor, I saw much less interest than I saw during Conor vs. Nate. Conor's allure is gone. He is like Goldberg after the 154-0 (or whatever the real numbers are) streak ended. His allure was being unbeatable - now he is trying to draw the crowd as a heel. The more time goes on, the more you see that the WWE has a better product/business model. As another analogy - I would say to look at the old Phil Hendrie radio show. He realized the product was better when he did the voice for both himself and the person he was interviewing so he could drive the conversation where he wanted - which is what his audience wanted. With UFC - Dana can't control outcomes so marketing is a waste because it all the value goes away with a loss. Vince can control this - which is why he is much better at producing stars. He took a guy like Triple H - who had almost zero personality or appeal - and made him into a star. To finish this post - I will clue you in on what killed the UFC (it has peaked and is declining now). The most effective fighters are wrestlers that learn enough BJJ to stay out of BJJ traps. This is exactly what Severn did and he was legit unbeatable for years. Now, the UFC was able to limit this recipe for success for a number of years because they know the audience will always prefer a striker over a grappler. In the PED age, if a guy was juiced enough he could use brute strength to overcome superior wrestling techique. Also, in an age where money was very little, Dana could incentivize wrestlers to strike to earn bonuses. Now that the money is a bit better and the fighters realize that there is more money in an undefeated streak than in a $50K fight bonus, the smart move is to grapple. Your chances of getting KO'ed as a wrestler is much, much lower once you take the fight off your feet or fight at a close distance (head kicks go away and not enough space to fully load up punches). So, you see this with Stipe/Nganou, Khabib/Conor, GSP/Bisping, Colby/Everyone, and with Ben Askren. It is the much safer bet to get the W so you can't blame the fighters and Dana does not have enough cash to give them the incentive to change this style. Whether the audience likes this style remains to be seen - but, all signs point to no. My prediction - as long as USADA is around, the champions in the sport will be wrestlers that learn just enough BJJ. Unfortunately for the UFC, this type of event is not worth $4B.

[@MFDOOM4635]

James Kershek you just sounds like a big wwe fan, overlooked a lot of stuff that goes on in ufc and fighting in general. You can’t compare wwe promotion to boxing/MMA because wwe isn’t fighting, it’s a show. Wrestling is a dominant aspect of the sport but to say you just need a little bjj and you can dominate is not true. P4P best in DJ uses all aspect of the fight game, Holloway and Ortega are the top 2 in their division and neither are wrestlers, jacare just beat Weidman who’s a top level wrestler, Whittaker has just beaten Yoel Romero twice, Romero is one of the greatest wrestlers of all time. Creating stars and big events is not just about how entertaining the fight is it’s about how it’s sold as we’ve seen in floyd for years, UFC and MMA is going to keep growing it’s just looking for more big stars, I think they need a shake up of the weights and how they build fighters but that will come over time, the sport is only 20 years. To write it off like you did to me seems pretty stupid and as I said makes me think your a big wwe fan who’s shown his bias. I’ve not looked at the stats and figures but just based on what you see and hear id say wwe is on the decline as no one I know watches it or takes an interest whereas 10 years ago they did

[@jackieng7907]

MF DOOOM agree with you 100%. That guy doesn’t know what he is talking about.

[@AHighlander]

James Kershek Good post.👍

[@kershekfamily]

@@MFDOOM4635 "You can’t compare wwe promotion to boxing/MMA because wwe isn’t fighting, it’s a show." You can't in terms of competition but you can in terms of business model, and the WWE is superior as seen recently. "Wrestling is a dominant aspect of the sport but to say you just need a little bjj and you can dominate is not true" My bet is that we will see a lot more future champions follow the blueprint of Woodley, DC, Khabib, Colby, etc. and dominant by being a better wrestler. When the UFC first started, BJJ was a giant advantage - heck, half the reason for the UFC is so the Gracies could cash in on teaching it. However, as time progresses, superior BJJ skills simply don't mean as much as it only dominates under a very restrictive rule set. Now that fighters have figured that out, its usefulness is greatly diminished. Even Ortega - a great BJJ guy - basically was a nothing until he discovered striking. What made BJJ great is that it can overcome inherent strength advantages (in the PED age) by using superior technique. However, it just is not as great in this regard under the UFC rule set compared to wrestling. If you want to make it completely useless, bring back head kicks and stomps to downed opponents. "I think they need a shake up of the weights and how they build fighters but that will come over time, the sport is only 20 years." What you are not getting is that we are winding down the careers of some guys that will likely go down as the GOAT or at least top 10 that ever fought - DC, GSP, Khabib, and the drawing power is GOING DOWN. When your stars can't sell more than 400k PPV's without some sort of special stipulation involved, you have a real problem. "I’ve not looked at the stats and figures but just based on what you see and hear id say wwe is on the decline as no one I know watches it or takes an interest whereas 10 years ago they did" WWE has a market cap of just under $6B, has long term TV contracts, has established tour dates, has control over its stars, and have invested to own it own PPV (via OTT WWE network). For me, these are the signs of a successful business. Dana did not plan beyond trying to inflate the value of his business pre-sale to WME. Now the chickens are coming home to roust.

[@MFDOOM4635]

James Kershek I’m not really interested in debating wwe vs MMA but again you can’t compare them in any way, MMA/UFC is a sport, wwe is a tv sitcom. You talk about ageing stars in ufc but one quick google search told me wwe highest PPV was an event that headlined the rock and John cena which didn’t even get 2 millions buys and if they’re not 2 ageing stars then I don’t know what is. Not only are they ageing stars they are wwe biggest ever stars and if they ever get surpassed I’d be very surprised. WWE’s business model essentially follows that set out by the mob when it controlled boxing which was to determine the winner long before fight night and there only so long people enjoy seeing that especially when it’s out in the open that it’s going on. The wwe has a core fan base which doesn’t have much room to grow as it’s undebatable that majority of adults won’t by into an event where they can work out the winner prior to the event, that’s why wwe is marketed toward children. The wrestlers you bring up are wrestler who are not only elite wrestlers but have also developed elite striking, for every top wrestler who’s been ufc champion there is a lot more who failed to compete. You bring up Ortega, saying he was nothing until he developed striking which again proves my point that you need to be an all rounder in the sport to get to the top. You’re talking about it as if it’s still one discipline vs the other when it’s not. As in boxing the longer the sport grows we’ll see style also grow with it. The reality is as MMA continues to grow which it undoubtedly is, there will be more participation in MMA, the more the participation of the sports goes up the higher the standard of the fighters will be and more eyes will thus be brought to the sport. All businesses and sports have peaks and troughs, maybe ufc is going through a tough period as it gets use to new ownership and changing of the guard in the top fighters but if I’m not mistaken they’ve just had their highest ever PPV event, one in which a new star in khabib has been made. As I said I’m pretty sure your a big wwe fan which is fine but there’s no reason to compare the 2 as they’re completely different. I think a big problem between ufc, wwe and boxing is that they’re always at war with each other as if it’s a competition when it’s not.

[@nottyseel949]

Literally just earlier today saw a video of 50 Cent saying the same thing about The Money Team years back (that it does not exist).

[@johnkelly4359]

The main reasons that Floyd makes his fights happen quickly is firstly to give his opposition less time to prepare and also I believe that he uses USADA and they only test a fighter once a fight has been announced, so he could if he wanted, train using PED's and get all the benefits but be clean by the time he is being tested. Also the idea of giving floyd any credit for the Mcgregor fight is laughable. The only reason that the fight went so long is because he said that he would give his fans a great fight, and the only way he would do that is if the skill level of his opposition was not high enough to put him in any danger. McGregor is a great MMA fighter but that boxing match was a circus and nothing else.

[@jackbenson8228]

tony ferg the type of guy to fart on the toilet and flush it

[@theodore2994]

Chael the champ

[@Mr.T-BAGGIN-UR-MOM]

Of what he's lost literally all his pro title fights

[@happydays6649]

@@Mr.T-BAGGIN-UR-MOM he won the wec title fight I think. But the champion missed weight

[@Mr.T-BAGGIN-UR-MOM]

@@happydays6649 nope he got arm barred and lost but to his credit it was a terrible stoppage by the ref, he stopped the fight and chael never even tapped to the arm bar.

[@Mr.T-BAGGIN-UR-MOM]

@@happydays6649 Paulo Filho vs Chael Sonnen.

[@happydays6649]

@@Mr.T-BAGGIN-UR-MOM there was a rematch which he won though. Or was Paulo not the champ in the rematch

[@danieladdy2637]

There are so many moving parts to this, that Chael may well lose his head and wind up back at jump street. There's simply no part of me that believes anything but a victory for "the bad guy' will ensue. Which leaves me with just one question... How many questions can I get away with and still make people believe its one? Where does this road lead to? And if it does have an end, is it just far enough out of sight, that perceptually we just can believe its real? I share this with you, not because I have to, but because I can and to bring you guys in on it with me. I may be wrong, but if I am, I'll be correct - especially in my summation that I simply do not know which way this thing will go!

[@mariosanchez8236]

A little side note that maybe you will find interesting, Chael Sonnen: When the Canelo vs Golovkin rematch was cancelled originally, Golovkin's team stated they still intended to fight on the same day granted if they could find a suitable opponent. The Nevada State athletic commission, 7ish months after sanctioning the 49 - 0 Mayweather vs the 0 - 0 McGregor fight, wouldn't sanction GGG vs the then 28 - 0 Jaime Munguia, saying he wouldn't have the experience to fight Golovkin.

[@Saphire_Throated_Carpenter_Ant]

Come to think of it, it has been years since I've seen Floyd flashing huge stacks of cash like he used to, sometimes walking around with like $100,000 for no reason. Last time I saw him do that was probably when he was a guest on Ridiculousness 6-7 years ago. Maybe that was around the time things started to go downhill for him. He doesn't seem to have much of his old jewelry left either lol.

[@AdrianGordon1231]

It is funny how little chael knows about boxing. I watch both sports (in fact, I am more of an MMA fan), and it is clear that Floyd has been over the hill for some time. Cheal is either pretending not to know this to push his narrative that boxing sucks (yet a week does not pass without him talking about it), or is genuinely and truly ignorant.

[@secredeath]

I heard he had a bad experience in boxing gym

[@secredeath]

But he's still my BOY

[@mr.hostetter855]

Arriba? Was that a Speedy Gonzalez Freudian slip?

[@MrNaturedude]

Im surprised how much of a well spoken dude chael is. Smart guy!

[@LanceG007]

It’s amazing how people want Floyd to have money troubles so bad when in reality the truth is far more simple,Rizin didn’t have the Money to pay Floyd for a real fight or an exhibition for that matter so all of this nonsense about him being broke is laughable. Shaquille O’Neal does car insurance commercials does that mean he’s role too? Use your head capitalist make money by any means

[@rlsjunior797]

Who knows, he may not have money troubles. What we do know is athletes have a history of going broke. We also know Floyd has some crazy spending habits, so don’t act like that’s not even a possibility. That’s just as short sighted as saying he definitely is having money problems. We don’t know, this is all pure speculation.

[@LanceG007]

What crazy spending habits like a 4.6 million dollar car let’s see take 4.6 million from 200 million and we have roughly 196 million dollars left oh he made that like twice already so cut it out with him being broke he made 30 million just to walk to the ring against maidana he’s doing just fine

[@miked2205]

lance garrison huhhh when you owe the irs an 8 figure check, and need to “find” the money and liquidate assets, you by definition have money problems lol

[@Dnhwork1]

@@miked2205 That is the whole point.... None of that has happened. No homes being taken away, no car repossessed, going broke and keeping all of your things do not go hand and hand.

[@LanceG007]

Mike DeMasco but none of these issues of losing homes has happened so clearly he’s paid that off

[@santiagogorostiaga5363]

Why is chael always saying that floyd had a hard night against conor?? He literally executed the perfect gameplan for conor!

[@snm1michaelmma82]

Meh it took him 30 minutes which is a disgrace Conor is literally a amateur

[@Pred439]

Santiago Gorostiaga anytime an amateur with an 0-0 record goes 10 rounds with the consensus greatest boxer of this era, who is 49-0, it’s a hard night...

[@santiagogorostiaga5363]

But that "amateur" was the best striker in the ufc. I understand that boxing is pretty different but conor is a talented guy and he fought like a talented, powerful boxer. Floyd was being cautious like he always is and found the best way to beat him. I don't think that Conor is such an amateur like people say and I don't think that Floyd had a tough night at all.

[@ab8893_]

Because Chael is an MMA propagandist who'll happily lie if it makes MMA look good

[@Pred439]

Santiago Gorostiaga that’s his point. That Conor should’ve been given his due, rather than everyone saying Floyd was old and out of shape.

[@willkey7372]

Colombo rain jacket classic!

[@platinumj241]

50 wins as a pro boxer and he's running out of money?? Shows the importance of spending sensibly when one's at the top..being a miser can actually work in one's favour in the long run

[@goodluck2522]

Floyd is publicly known to be worth at least..AT LEAST..500 million.. I'm sure Floyd is going to be just fine financially

[@Ahungryghost-]

Yeah all his diamond watches, chains, houses, cars, ect. are worth 500 million but it doesnt mean he can continually pay for them for years

[@pwilburnsprint]

Good Luck when Floyd calls planes and watches “investments”? Those don’t appreciate in value. He blows through his money and will be broke like Tyson and all the others. And your words will forever be on the internet trying to convince people to the contrary. Chael and Dana are spot on right Floyd and his propensity to overspend.

[@orbytl2799]

that's the problem, hes worth 500 mill but rolls like a billionaire

[@Deplorable_Nerfherder]

I saw when he put up the koenigseg for sale

[@anumanuva2431]

500 bar is peanuts bruh, his champagne taste with orange juice money

[@ryanc4183]

Conor vs khabib in a boxing match...that’s where the money is

[@snm1michaelmma82]

Conor wins

[@tonym5093]

Ryan C Nobody wants to see that

[@TS-yn9ey]

Yes, but....will it blend??

[@jaydaniels6172]

Wow Chael just admitted his whole angle on pretty much everything. He says things no one else says. It's not necessarily right but no one else has said it. He understands the value of a USP.

[@OneManGSG]

Chael I love u, I love Conor too but everybody knows Conor didn't test Floyd in that fight. Floyd didn't even throw a punch in the 1st 3 rounds. Stop it Chael

[@tonym5093]

ONEMANMUSIC Thanks you!

[@444bid3]

Yeah just saw his new 17 room mansion Floyd really seems to be going through it

[@Ontime2day]

unplug that's not an asset, it's a liability

[@rlsjunior797]

Jon doe with Floyd’s spending habits real estate would be one of the safer moves he could make.

[@444bid3]

@@Ontime2day if giant Mansion is not an asset to you it's no wonder you're a broke bitch

[@Ontime2day]

Ronald Stonecipher yeah, but not unless he buys it for the purpose of making money from it. Unless you're selling homes or properties for a profit, it's difficult to see this working out for him. He's not known for anything other than boxing, wearing his own clothing brand and spending money. Doesn't sound like a financial genius to me.

[@444bid3]

@@Ontime2day yeah bro I'm sure your Mansion is alot bigger and nicer and you don't even use it you have three of them and an island because everyone knows you're the guy that spends his millions wisely so go ahead and tell me about all your successful ventures and your billions in assets

[@FromMagic]

This man said nobody will stay up to watch at 3am when Europe do it for every ufc event

[@matthowell8985]

I like this guy more for analysis of the fight game than I do for his actual fighting no disrespect but he's spot-on when it comes to the analysis

[@NoooChance]

This guy is always wrong even though he talks like he thinks he's smart

[@veebee69]

Was this essentially a publicity stunt since UFC doesn't want to make the Khabib fight?

[@eccolane]

Watching TheWeasle MMA analyst apparently, I have already heard some of these words there..

[@danieliorga2000]

It would be great as a begining for some Floyd mma fights. Floyd brand is very big. He did a lot in the Mcgregor fight.

[@christopherchesler5717]

Chael is joking right? I can't tell. But I'm sure he knows that Floyd's promotion company is not The Money Team it is Mayweather promotions. This whole video was a little weird. I know he takes shots in the dark sometime but he was just way f****** off in this one LOL

[@444bid3]

Connor would get knocked out by dillashaw

[@alexjacobs2080]

😂😂

[@Vipox92]

As great as I think both guys are and in my opinion tj is number 1 p4p I don't see him beating Conor

[@tonym5093]

You might be right. Dillashaw is a beast

[@alexjacobs2080]

Khabib the 200 lb wrestler beats conor and u mfs forget conor mauled diaz....diaz fought rory lmaoooo tj is 135 lb

[@444bid3]

@@alexjacobs2080 Diaz was ranked 11 when he tapped Connor out. On ten days notice. Tony Diaz khabib shit even pottier gayji ortega would destroy him lol the Conner hype train is done finally fuck

[@JermStone]

You know what fuck it. I subbed.

[@steveburgess23]

Didn’t really damage his brand further than it already was. His brand was hurt by fighting circus clowns like Andre Burto and Conor McGregor, and by ducking Pacquiao until he was past his best.

[@joeyfive5245]

Chael thinks WWE’s a real sport and leaves milk and cookies out for Santa

[@daveyponderosa9549]

Joey Five I leave cookies out for Santa. 😁👍

[@glass7407]

I'd like to offer you that Floyd went to Japan and accepted the fight but I'll give you this that Floyd actually got bullied into taking this fight against his will.

[@dansogordon1010]

agreed

[@Head318Hunter]

Chael says the same things I say but he has a slightly larger platform. In other words CHAEL IS THE FN MAN. The one truth you'll find !!

[@TheBehindspace]

How come nobody is talking about Michael Venom Page??