The Gilded Age | The Black Elite | HBO

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The cast and crew reflect on the history of New York’s affluent African American community and how that experience is explored with the Scott family.
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@amberimani1994
@amberimani1994 2 жыл бұрын
Rarely do dark-skinned Black women get to see themselves portrayed in a TV show without their image being caricatured, stereotyped, or mocked in some form. Denée Benton’s role as Peggy means everything and has set this show far above other historical dramas ❤️❤️❤️
@scorpioninblue
@scorpioninblue 2 жыл бұрын
Beautifully said! You hit the nail squarely on the head! Denee performance is wonderful.
@yuridouche6195
@yuridouche6195 2 жыл бұрын
@samantha ssmith In THIS show, which is the one being discussed, they show Black people owning brownstones and businesses in Brooklyn, and that IS reality.
@anthonytaylor7928
@anthonytaylor7928 2 жыл бұрын
What about viola Davis who won an Emmy ? U sure u done ur research?
@brachiator1
@brachiator1 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonytaylor7928 The commenter is right on the money. She wrote "rarely," and not "never." Also, when you get down to it, black families, even black elite families, were a range of complexions, as can be seen in the photos accompanying this feature. But it is great that the actress is beautifully dark skinned.
@anthonytaylor7928
@anthonytaylor7928 2 жыл бұрын
@@brachiator1 nope I have to respectfully disagree it is a lot of dark skinned actresses that has tv shows political talk shows reality shows ect on please yall do ur research
@FablestoneSeries
@FablestoneSeries 2 жыл бұрын
Instead of race swapping characters in shows, I want to see more of THIS. I want to see writers shine a flashlight into the corners of forgotten history and tell stories of POC instead of projecting white culture onto POC like Amazon is doing. This is far more fascinating and authentic.
@paulies5407
@paulies5407 2 жыл бұрын
Bingo.
@sonnee44
@sonnee44 2 жыл бұрын
agreed
@IceCream-hp7mm
@IceCream-hp7mm 2 жыл бұрын
In the context of WOT the diversity they’ve chosen does not affect the story at all but I can understand it can be annoying when you have a fixed image of the character in your mind. But remember the Rue scandal in Hunger Games? The book describes her as a poc but somehow the readers expected her to be white lol.
@FablestoneSeries
@FablestoneSeries 2 жыл бұрын
@@IceCream-hp7mm having never read WoT it didn't bother me, in fact, issues surrounding it didn't even cross my mind until the fans brought them up. Like how are these remote medieval settlements that are cut off from the rest of the world so diverse in the first place? But that is such an insignificant detail. I feel race swapping is fine so long as it makes sense, or you go the route of Hamilton and just go all in and fully commit to it. But the example i like to bring up all the time is Lone Ranger. All this fuss was made to hire Johnny Depp because he was 1/36th native, meanwhile the role of the lone ranger still went to a white person... the real life lone ranger was black. Hollywood missed a huge opportunity there to tell forgotten black history. And instead they continued to uphold one of their biggest crimes in the history of whitewashing.
@IceCream-hp7mm
@IceCream-hp7mm 2 жыл бұрын
@@FablestoneSeries oh that’s interesting, the ones fighting for JD probably had no clue. Studios do not care about diversity the change comes because now their consumers are interested in that.
@shifragri
@shifragri 2 жыл бұрын
As a history buff I knew there was so much material to reference for the African American characters, I was afraid that the writers wouldn’t know where to look or even fathom the lives of African Americans during the Gilded Age. Kudos to the writers and researchers.
@ronjames1914
@ronjames1914 2 жыл бұрын
But now look at the American African culture. Smashed. Say again smashed
@sryder8312
@sryder8312 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronjames1914 not at all smashed. African Americans have thrived despite the odds. The majority of college grads are African American women.
@GODCONVOYPRIME
@GODCONVOYPRIME 2 жыл бұрын
@@sryder8312 But now look at the American African culture. Smashed. Say again smashed
@ladybug3380
@ladybug3380 2 жыл бұрын
@@sryder8312 they might be graduating college but their men aren’t marrying them and are leaving them to be single mothers at an alarming rate. The culture is the problem.
@yvonneplant9434
@yvonneplant9434 2 жыл бұрын
Now that more people are aware of what happened in 1921 in Tulsa/ Black Wall St, it's really important to explain how that community became what it was. This show is helping explain it.
@Meaghful
@Meaghful 2 жыл бұрын
I wish they would create a spin off of the black elite in brooklyn. Would so love to see that
@KINGCABA-if4nk
@KINGCABA-if4nk 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I’m here for it.
@aubreyjames8795
@aubreyjames8795 2 жыл бұрын
That’s be awesome but no more baby mom narratives. I can’t believe tonight’s episode
@amazingabby25
@amazingabby25 2 жыл бұрын
Aubrey James disappointing
@tracys169
@tracys169 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I was preparing for more dive into the black elite in Brooklyn for season 2, then they threw the whole baby and the trip to Philadelphia plot..which saddens me. I'm not goign to stop watching but I hope they resolve that sooner in season 2 so we get to see more of the black elite.
@chrisd2193
@chrisd2193 2 жыл бұрын
YES PLEASE, for some weird reason it's like the world wants to show us that affluent black families never existed until recently.. they've been there throughout history. They always portray us in the worst ways, like that's our entire history.
@zakwinduss
@zakwinduss 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who loves period drama it often feels like POC are either ignored or shoehorned in as an after thought. In this drama however the Scott family feel so authentic and naturally a part of the story. I for one had no idea about the black elite (the only other show I can think of that touches on it is Self Made about madam CJ Walker). It makes me hopeful we will see more period dramas focus on the black elite in the future.
@1hinita
@1hinita 2 жыл бұрын
YESSS the exact reason love this so much. "Self Made" was a bit disappointing in the story and especially the wardrobe but, all in all i enjoyed it. Peggy, i believe, was modeled after Ida B. Wells, a famous Black woman journalist from the late 19th. she also help found the NAACP
@VOLCAL
@VOLCAL 2 жыл бұрын
IF THEY GONNA REDO BLK AMERICAN HISTORY IN HOLLYWOOD...WHY AINT THEY DOING THE SAME FOR ASN AMERICANS, LATINO AMERICANS AND INDIAN AMERICANS? F HOLLYWOOD FOR THE LAST 25 YEARS.
@lunarwize7074
@lunarwize7074 2 жыл бұрын
In the Reconstruction Era after the Civil War, there were more black senators than ever in American history. It is so wonderful to see Salli Richardson Whitfield and the other black writers and producers on the show lend their talents to bring forth aspects of American history that many are not aware of. This fuller telling of the Gilded Age (one of my favorite eras) is very satisfying. The Black elite also had their own social strata. They created wealthy communities in the Hamptons like Oak Bluffs (where the Obamas summered) and Sag Harbor Hills as well as Weeksville (now called Crown Harbor) in Brooklyn and many more elite enclaves throughout the United States despite the racial violence and unjust laws they experienced. We look forward to new episodes and wish you all continued success. 🙏🏾
@champslim
@champslim 2 жыл бұрын
Reconstruction is my favorite thing to learn about.
@1hinita
@1hinita 2 жыл бұрын
i recently found out bout the black upper-class too and its so wonderful to see it acted out on screen. i subbed across it when I saw some old pictures of black Victorian ladies from the late 19th C and ever since then iv been looking it up. also thx for all the info. Now I can do some more research on the towns you listed. ps: there is a western film called "the harder they fall" inspired off black characters from the west. after watching, someone's comment led me to towns formed in the west called "freedom-towns", which you prob named a few of them already. all this stuff is fascinating to learn and even more so because they were real lives of Black Americans.
@shaunapresents
@shaunapresents 2 жыл бұрын
So glad to see Black Historian's and Executive Producer's that can bring authenticity to this part of our history. Great Job!
@MothGirl007
@MothGirl007 2 жыл бұрын
I love it. More of this, please.
@bougiebohemian5393
@bougiebohemian5393 2 жыл бұрын
“Black historians and executive producers”. No apostrophe needed, sis.
@51Saffron
@51Saffron Жыл бұрын
I collect vintage photographs, and I had a lot of affluent black women and men. Their clothing was obviously expensive.
@valentino3776
@valentino3776 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you HBO and everyone involved with the show for telling a story of black triumph and joy during this time! Bravo 🎉
@yuridouche6195
@yuridouche6195 2 жыл бұрын
@samantha ssmith Did the whole point escape you? Black people were rising like a phoenix from slavery which had JUST ENDED and yet they were grabbing every opportunity available. Succeeding in so many ways. There was still racist treatment but they did not let it stop them from progressing. So, YES, joy and triumph. You're just a negative and nasty blind women if you can't see that.
@luvlaneyluv
@luvlaneyluv 2 жыл бұрын
I would applaud the writers even more, if they mention Seneca Village next season. It was dismantled a few years before this series starts but it would interesting to start a conversation about it.
@livingwithphyllis9261
@livingwithphyllis9261 2 жыл бұрын
Seneca Village is extremely important. I want a film or series that shows how we as a people flourished. I want to see, smell and feel how we lived, what we ate, what gave us joy. And at the end as a side note reveal the egregious elimination of Black people by white America, now sits below Central Park.
@cherylreitz4779
@cherylreitz4779 2 жыл бұрын
@@livingwithphyllis9261 I was just going to ask if Seneca Village was where Central Park is now located. CBS Sunday Morning or CBS Morning Show did a segment on this subject and they even found some descendants living still in NYC of some of the people that originally lived in S. Village. If I recall correctly these descendants had no clue. The clip is here on You Tube as I just watched a month ago.
@AprilMartinChartrandMS
@AprilMartinChartrandMS 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that is a hidden historical omission and secret. Redlining at its best, to tear down a thriving town to make way for Central Park. Immanent domain has claws and dividers based in Eugenics and Race erasure.
@mahoganysqueeze
@mahoganysqueeze 2 жыл бұрын
On social media, I hear a lot of complaining about "modern women" and our careers, so on top of seeing a black elite family, I'm also glad to see her father want to pass his business to her and her wanting to forge her own career. People act like there weren't always a segment of women who wanted the growth, opportunities and freedoms that having a career brings.
@v.a.993
@v.a.993 2 жыл бұрын
Peggy's wardrobe, tho. Her outfits are amazing. The costume designer deserves an Oscar or Emmy!!!! I love the premise of the show and I want to see it, but I don't have HBO.
@delphineblue
@delphineblue 2 жыл бұрын
If you have Hulu you can watch it there!
@TheKrazysexykool
@TheKrazysexykool 2 жыл бұрын
I am a 58 year old white woman and I am learning black history which is part of all American history from a scripted tv show. I am happy to learn it but all history should be taught, not white washed history.
@SuperSpace2009
@SuperSpace2009 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I am a 60 year old black man and I thank you for saying that! This is how we live together by including everyone's history! Some if it was very bad! But it saw still part of that history!
@elisejackson2854
@elisejackson2854 2 жыл бұрын
It’s not that hard to learn. I’m literally a 24 year old jamaican and i’ve learned tons of this from books.
@wakeup8663
@wakeup8663 2 жыл бұрын
Well WAIT TILL U FIND OUT ABOUT THE ORIGINAL NATIVE OR INDIGENOUS AMERICANS WERE "BLACK"..
@quinnishappy5309
@quinnishappy5309 2 жыл бұрын
you could have learned it you just had to look. It wasnt white washed.
@dhgemein2
@dhgemein2 2 жыл бұрын
The same can be said for any subject,@@elisejackson2854. The key is taking the trouble to seek out those books. Where does that motivation come from?
@XFreezerBunnyX
@XFreezerBunnyX 2 жыл бұрын
Love this! Peggy is by far my favorite character. There's so many layers to her and this feature definitely sheds more light into the Black Elite, a subject that I myself wasn't too familiar with so it's wonderful to know more about this period of American history. P.S. Aunt Agnes is hilarious and I love her power dynamic versus Bertha! ❤
@Senpaischick
@Senpaischick 2 жыл бұрын
Peggy is my favorite character on this show!!! It's nice to know someone else I follow also loves this show as much as me! lol
@Rell_World
@Rell_World 2 жыл бұрын
Yes!!! Peggy is my number 1. Aunty Agnes is a close 2nd.
@AWordorNinety
@AWordorNinety 2 жыл бұрын
Look up the Downing catering dynasty of New York. By the 1880s this Black dynasty were said to be among the wealthiest and more connected business families of the entire city. They brought the concept Oyster fine dining to New York city for the first time from the 1820s onwards. There are pictures of them, the children were educated in Europe etc.
@KINGCABA-if4nk
@KINGCABA-if4nk 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Hopefully it’s recorded in our kind of people book
@PlannedObsolescence
@PlannedObsolescence Жыл бұрын
Oysters? Ew.
@lindiwengwevela524
@lindiwengwevela524 2 жыл бұрын
"Well, why should I align myself with either party when I don't have the right to vote?" WOAH, son! I find it ironic that an Irish housemaid was accusing Black people of coming to their their jobs when that was EXACTLY what was being said about the Irish immigrants lol.
@lunarwize7074
@lunarwize7074 2 жыл бұрын
Racism is mental illness, so it’s never logical.
@theblackpearlofbraavos
@theblackpearlofbraavos 2 жыл бұрын
As long as there's somebody else to look down on, it doesn't matter.
@lindiwengwevela524
@lindiwengwevela524 2 жыл бұрын
@@theblackpearlofbraavos Precisely.
@mona9008
@mona9008 2 жыл бұрын
I thought so too!!
@clintjohnson1023
@clintjohnson1023 2 жыл бұрын
Which is why I laugh when certain people who exhibit racist behavior excuse themselves by saying I’m not racist, I’m “Irish”.
@crem-crem4070
@crem-crem4070 2 жыл бұрын
And then nightmares like the Tulsa Massacre started happening
@caronstout354
@caronstout354 2 жыл бұрын
This was dramatized on the first episode of HBO's "Watchmen" series.
@crem-crem4070
@crem-crem4070 2 жыл бұрын
@@caronstout354 yeah, I know. My friend called me when she saw it in ‘Watchman’ for the first time and that was how I, a South African, found out that most Americans don’t know what happened then
@IstandwithKenya
@IstandwithKenya 2 жыл бұрын
@@caronstout354 Lovecradt County also dramatized it.
@WiseAilbhean
@WiseAilbhean 2 жыл бұрын
I just pray that Peggy wont be a throw away character like they tend to do. You have no idea how amazing it is to see a high melanin sister and seen her portrayed in such a beautiful light! Thank you!
@quinnishappy5309
@quinnishappy5309 2 жыл бұрын
Are you saying black doesnt mean unity?
@WiseAilbhean
@WiseAilbhean 2 жыл бұрын
@@quinnishappy5309 Go away!
@shifragri
@shifragri 2 жыл бұрын
I also wanted to point out Lena Horne’s paternal family were very much apart of the Black Upper Middle Class in Brooklyn. I remember reading her memoir where she said the happiest memories of her childhood was when she lived with her paternal grandparents.
@ld1655
@ld1655 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. That is where I first learned about the Black elite class in Brooklyn. Ms. Horne's grandparents were indeed a part of this community during the end of the 19th century. Her grandmother was involved with civil rights, a member of the NAACP, and suffragist. And they were well educated too.
@bluetheory2
@bluetheory2 2 жыл бұрын
She was from my neighborhood, Bed Stuy
@ronjames1914
@ronjames1914 2 жыл бұрын
No wig today huh. Lovin it very much😍
@lalagonegaga
@lalagonegaga 2 жыл бұрын
Cab Calloway was also born into money.
@LaMarco0
@LaMarco0 2 жыл бұрын
I love this show! Black folks ARE a part of American history.
@kimberly8695
@kimberly8695 2 жыл бұрын
@samantha ssmith No, wealthy Black folk who dressed accordingly, who dressed like OTHER upper-class people of the era. "Dolly Europeans..."🙄 Did you say that about the AMERICANS who were dressed in that manner? Just say you're a loudmouthed, knuckle-dragging racist and be done with it.
@PHlophe
@PHlophe 2 жыл бұрын
imma need a spin off shows on the Scott family alone. no mayonnaise on the menu .
@shifragri
@shifragri 2 жыл бұрын
Part of American History? Without Black ppl there is no America.
@ronjames1914
@ronjames1914 2 жыл бұрын
@@PHlophe just plenty of coco huh. A racist American African…….SHOCKING
@ronjames1914
@ronjames1914 2 жыл бұрын
@@PHlophe Hate the skin you are in! Man I sleep good at night
@medranochav
@medranochav 2 жыл бұрын
OMG the side walk thing is so true. The amount of times white people have assumed I'd excuse myself before them is astounding when you think about the world we share today. I have to remember it's less about politeness and more about respect.
@lf1496
@lf1496 2 жыл бұрын
I have never had that happen to me. I'm from the Bronx but live in Europe now. I'm assuming you're speaking of a wt American. But if a wt person did engage in that folly with me they would be very disappointed in the outcome 😂
@yuridouche6195
@yuridouche6195 2 жыл бұрын
Yes it happens in Brooklyn right now since the white gentrifiers are moving in and they think the water has to part for them....and their dogs. Disgusts me what has happened to the Fort Greene I loved in my youth.
@smartditzs7536
@smartditzs7536 2 жыл бұрын
Omg it’s everyday . It’s crazy. Like they can’t even consider moving seeing us if we’re in a particular stance first why can’t you move around me ??
@ShelbySteele23
@ShelbySteele23 2 жыл бұрын
Yep I had to call my husband out about doing this. Out of habit he would go out of his way to move for them even when we were there first or had the right of way. He wasn't aware that he was doing it but he has improved and tried to be more conscious
@ss6truks
@ss6truks 2 жыл бұрын
I used to think my mom was rude for doing that but remembering the time she came from I don't back down from them anymore either
@marlene5494
@marlene5494 2 жыл бұрын
Such brilliant writing and production. When a show can transport you into the lives of the characters where you become invested in the many relationships, you know it’s a success. I love this series. So happy they got picked up for season 2. Can’t wait for Monday nights on HBO. 👏🏽💐
@4evermistyblu
@4evermistyblu 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the writers/creators for showcasing the Black Elite another form of the Black American Experience which most history books tend to leave out. I absolutely love Peggy’s story and it’s so refreshing to see a beautiful l/intelligent dark skin Black woman like myself in an important role. Great series!!!
@chrisd2193
@chrisd2193 2 жыл бұрын
I really don't get why we don't see more of this, they always show us as struggling like all black people are in same level of society. Would love to see a show focus on black elites, not just the one's from the 20th & 21st century.
@4evermistyblu
@4evermistyblu 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrisd2193 FACTS!!!!!!
@quinnishappy5309
@quinnishappy5309 2 жыл бұрын
What history books leave this out? you mean histories that arent about this specific time or place or subject cause thats relevant to all history isnt it.
@Beargeek616
@Beargeek616 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a series about The Black Elite, back then. Stop the erasure!
@yogateachermom1
@yogateachermom1 2 жыл бұрын
I would love this too!! Unfortunately this does not support the agenda of CRT.
@Torihappyness
@Torihappyness Жыл бұрын
It's not erasure as such it's more ignoring the existence of black elite. I hope they do a spin off which focuses on the black elite and not in roles of servitude.
@colinwhitfield8627
@colinwhitfield8627 2 жыл бұрын
She brought them shoes. What a SCENE!
@Hiro_Trevelyan
@Hiro_Trevelyan 2 жыл бұрын
It's incredible how I was absolutely not aware of that part of history. I'm really glad they included it !
@javionriley8739
@javionriley8739 2 жыл бұрын
This is literally about my mom side of the family In Birmingham Alabama, you had these kinds of communities especially in the south !! That are still around & have evolved into Atlanta, Columbia South Carolina, Birmingham Alabama, Jackson Mississippi etc
@akacentric7354
@akacentric7354 2 жыл бұрын
Love this and the stories. I am going to write for a show like this one day. Mark my worlds.
@lauramipe2955
@lauramipe2955 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see it!
@czahnie
@czahnie 2 жыл бұрын
Why wait. Write it now.
@paulies5407
@paulies5407 2 жыл бұрын
Nah you won't
@richierich7229
@richierich7229 2 жыл бұрын
Your worlds?
@awalker8371
@awalker8371 2 жыл бұрын
Yes 🙌🏾 you will
@Deking24
@Deking24 2 жыл бұрын
That scene where the white couple wanted to them to part to let them through happens so much to this day lol but I don’t care who you are if I was there first then you move around me not the other way around . I won’t make myself small to comfort anyone .
@malakcanvas
@malakcanvas 2 жыл бұрын
And they rarely say "excuse me" 🙄
@las8883
@las8883 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see an entire show that focuses on the black elite during this period
@SC-tn5id
@SC-tn5id 2 жыл бұрын
This black experience still happens in Manhattan. Many times as a proud black man who dresses well and walks with his head held high living on the UWS I get these looks from a lot of white people as if they have never seen a black person before in NYC in 2022. There is a difference between being aware of your surroundings and still looking at someone even when they have passed by you. I don’t know if they really understand how rude and disgusting it is, quite frankly I do not care but it just shows how things really haven’t changed that much in NYC.
@MothGirl007
@MothGirl007 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe they are looking at you with admiration.
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
Who dresses well? Am i the only one to find that problematic? Lol...
@clintjohnson1023
@clintjohnson1023 2 жыл бұрын
@Ameerah McSweeney why does he seem full of himself?
@uzuegbunamb
@uzuegbunamb 2 ай бұрын
@@MothGirl007 No. I believe he is old enough to know when someone is looking at him with admiration. You can always tell when someone is against you and when someone is for you.
@dolphins3291
@dolphins3291 2 жыл бұрын
I was about to add that's it's thrilling to see a dark-skinned young woman's portrayal treated with respect and dignity ...And then I realise everyone's already saying that in the comments, too. 😄Still, it's worth repeating, though! As a young Jamaican female writer myself, even having not watched this series yet, it makes me feel like I'm standing a foot taller. 🥰😇 (I'm in the middle of writing a story along these lines someday...I hope there will still be a market for it in the future, and this positive awareness of black history rising is not just a trend!) P.S.: Author Beverly Jenkin's YA novels "Belle", and later, its sequel, are similar stories of a young black woman finding her footing, and rising in the world during the Reconstruction-Era. For anyone interested in written fiction on this subject, that might be a place to start -- haven't read them, but I hear they are wholesome and well-told!
@dolphins3291
@dolphins3291 2 жыл бұрын
@Ameerah McSweeney Dark skin tones have not been portrayed as positively as others, by and large, in western film for generations. Now that it is, it is a moment to celebrate, not to come up with cheap and irrelevant clapbacks.
@jacquelinetorresguzman6760
@jacquelinetorresguzman6760 2 жыл бұрын
This is what makes the gilded age a phenomenal show.
@heathermetz3974
@heathermetz3974 2 жыл бұрын
2:37 “Why should I align myself with either party, when I don’t have the right to vote!” Pre-Suffragette!
@kenyathompson3266
@kenyathompson3266 2 жыл бұрын
The suffragettes denied black women entry and thus didn’t get the vote until the 1960s
@ladybug3380
@ladybug3380 2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how she resembles my late mother, seeing her on screen brought tears to my eyes. RIP mom.
@chuckandmax7313
@chuckandmax7313 2 жыл бұрын
Being denied this picture of the black community is such an injustice, and this series should be praised for telling it. It seems like we erased the stories of these great black members of our society and sold the black community a lie of who they truly were and what they could achieve. I really enjoy seeing this side of our history in such a truly beautiful story.
@isabellaxoxo8357
@isabellaxoxo8357 2 жыл бұрын
We're going to see more movies and series like this about our history in America beyond slavery and I'm here for it!!! Get ready!
@fideletamo4292
@fideletamo4292 2 жыл бұрын
I Care more about slaves and poor black people (who are the majority) than this boring black elites minority...
@witchplease9695
@witchplease9695 2 жыл бұрын
@@fideletamo4292 You're so ignorant and hateful. If you care so much, then do something for them instead of being angry at Black people who succeed.
@amilton1911
@amilton1911 2 жыл бұрын
Now this is the history they don’t wanna show
@damnnative3188
@damnnative3188 2 жыл бұрын
But they’re showing it now…so?
@amilton1911
@amilton1911 2 жыл бұрын
So how many years later? And who is they that you are referring to and how about you find something else to speak about.
@timtuber8085
@timtuber8085 2 жыл бұрын
Got to own the medium ourselves. Cant depend on browbeating white hollywood ownership to portray us the way we want to see us. Blacks have to be the owners of the media our kids consume
@PlannedObsolescence
@PlannedObsolescence 9 ай бұрын
@@amilton1911 Learn proper punctuation.
@cassies1613
@cassies1613 2 жыл бұрын
I’d like to see a show about America’s black elite. Perhaps a spin-off show for Peggy? 👸🏾
@kat64470
@kat64470 2 жыл бұрын
Expand on this thought please, and why you think it's needed
@Torihappyness
@Torihappyness Жыл бұрын
@@kat64470 you sound like you don't want to see such a show!
@reginaargoebie2744
@reginaargoebie2744 2 жыл бұрын
I was always into learning history in school and I have NEVER heard of the Black elites. I am SO happy to be entertained AND learn something new (even though it's history). We really need to do better in terms of education regarding our history. But this looks AMAZING
@user-jg6gj5mf2w
@user-jg6gj5mf2w 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for presenting this part of history! I had no idea.
@malakcanvas
@malakcanvas 2 жыл бұрын
3:15 tuh!! Still happens today! And I don't move 🤷🏿‍♀️
@ss6truks
@ss6truks 2 жыл бұрын
Because of this show I learned about Mary Ellen Pleasant. Even though she found her fortune on the West Coast she was around the same time when people couldn't imagine someone like her amassing wealth PERIOD and she precedes Madame CJ Walker by a few decades
@noble604
@noble604 2 жыл бұрын
(I just rewatched some of it. I didn’t recall there being so much bleeping out of profanity. As a personal rule, I generally do not recommend items with profanity - bleeped out or not - so, please do watch at your discretion.)
@DocMatthews0311
@DocMatthews0311 2 жыл бұрын
Mary Ellen Pleasant made her own rules and mastered the entrepreneurship game. She certainly made some unorthodox and risqué moves but she should be studied for her fortitude and business savvy.
@docej3025
@docej3025 2 жыл бұрын
@@noble604 YOU'RE A TRIP! THE BLEEPING OUT OF PROFANITY IS THE PRESSING IMPRESSION THAT YOU GET? GOOD LORD! 🤦🏾‍♀️ HOLIER THAN THOU PEOPLE! HOW DO YOU MANAGE TO BREATHE THE SAME OXYGEN AS US MERE MORTALS?
@nj1624
@nj1624 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for showing this!
@luisamadopinedo8017
@luisamadopinedo8017 2 жыл бұрын
This narrative is a must for the show. I know without it, I would have been less likely to keep watching. There are other narratives that continue to be ignored/kept away from the big screen. America is more complex than Black and White, even at this time in history.
@lunarwize7074
@lunarwize7074 2 жыл бұрын
This is true. While I’m happy to see storylines about African Americans, I’m also hoping to see stories about Native Americans, Chinese and other Asian American communities, Latino communities and more, because you’re right, American history is more complex and colorful than black and white.
@moonwalker5275
@moonwalker5275 2 жыл бұрын
That part where certain people stop assuming you shouldn’t move for them…Happens to this day!!! I go through it in Foolion!
@jenniferisaacs239
@jenniferisaacs239 2 жыл бұрын
Love this show and Peggy Scott is one of my favorite characters. She dares to be bold, she dares to ask questions and be modern! I so enjoy her!
@teishahickman2108
@teishahickman2108 2 жыл бұрын
It's so funny. When trailers for this show first started being played, I had a conversation with a White Dude who called her presence revisionist history and politically correct casting. Why, because he was ignorant regarding the Black Elite. What's happening in classrooms and with textbooks today where there is true revisionist history occuring, isn't the first time our history has been erased. Especially the positive aspects. It's wonderful that People of Color in general and Black People specifically are beginning to rectify this in ways that won't be so easily erased.
@PlannedObsolescence
@PlannedObsolescence 9 ай бұрын
If it was a show about Vikings or ancient Celts and they casted a bunch of the roles with black actors, then he'd have a point. But the black elites of the Gilded Age did exist.
@teishahickman2108
@teishahickman2108 9 ай бұрын
@@PlannedObsolescence I don't know when it will hit home with you all. Africa IS the cradle of civilization, the birthplace of all humanity. There were and are Black People in every part of the world now and in every part of history...Even Vikings and Ancient Celts. Even if it may have been a nominal amount, they were still present... The destruction and distortion of history isn't a new thing "they" are not clever or creative. The playbook is the same and excluding Black People is what they do and have been doing.
@beyourself2444
@beyourself2444 2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing stories of white American soldiers in WWII trying to talk down to and insult black West Indian soldiers fighting for the British and those West Indian soldiers would beat up white Americans calling them the n-word and those men were taken aback by that…
@Beautyofddc
@Beautyofddc 2 жыл бұрын
I love this show because of this exactly. I had no idea of the black elite. But of course we were thriving too! Of course! How wonderful it is to know that! I love Peggy so much! I hope they include her in all the seasons to come!
@margaritataylor8743
@margaritataylor8743 2 жыл бұрын
I have known about for years. I am a debutante. What I would like to see is Peggy interacting more with some of the colored women's groups they had at the time. I remember them well growing up. Good start, but I hope it is expanded more.
@noonecares200
@noonecares200 2 жыл бұрын
@samantha ssmith at the time , if you were colored meant black ….
@ss6truks
@ss6truks 2 жыл бұрын
I'm fascinated about the Black elite in San Francisco alot of people moving west for the Gold Rush era and then building up cities we don't get alot of media about it I think it's an interesting time period that was kind of running parallel to the Gilded Age
@ShermSuite
@ShermSuite 2 жыл бұрын
@samantha ssmith colored means black. People of color me as everyone but black.
@Wlf5953
@Wlf5953 2 жыл бұрын
@@noonecares200 @ Samantha ssmith not correct. It referred to any non white citizen ..please educate yourself.
@noonecares200
@noonecares200 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wlf5953 currently it does but back then colored referred to the Separation of blacks and white during the south and north . Which is why for example in Many o places they will write , colored, Mexicans and Chinese not need to apply . Before coming for someone to educate themselves make sure you know the context . Racial definitions in the past are not the same as how it is now .
@sha52196
@sha52196 2 жыл бұрын
I hope this doesn't get canceled because all of the good shows like this do.
@schail
@schail 2 жыл бұрын
Love this. Thank you so much. Just started watching it, and I enjoy it.
@lalagonegaga
@lalagonegaga 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant writing. It puts the viewer into Marian's shoes (pun intended) and then hits them with a reality they were not aware of.
@LauryneAmanda
@LauryneAmanda 2 жыл бұрын
Loved this. I got it right away! 🤣
@bernadinetinker3028
@bernadinetinker3028 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the way Peggy's mom addressed the shoes after Marian realized her charitable faux pas. Very funny. Peggy's family home was far more substantial than Marian's father. If Raikes marries Marian, do they move to Brooklyn?
@seanmckeownyoung
@seanmckeownyoung 2 жыл бұрын
I love this story and I love learning about this community. It’s inspiring.
@Julia-ir1yj
@Julia-ir1yj 2 жыл бұрын
Id like to see more about Peggy’s father on the show. His journey sound interesting and completely understand why he wants the best for Peggy.
@SuperSpace2009
@SuperSpace2009 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! I must see this show! Finally to see us in a different light doing that time. It make you feel proud! That there was more to us! And to finally to see it on the screen! Those pictures doing that time was beautiful! The style and dress was so classy! HBO and the writers got it right! Your shows always try to bring the real truth! Thank you for having the time and doing the real research.
@bellefemme87
@bellefemme87 2 жыл бұрын
This was the first video that popped up as I logged on to KZbin. Never heard of this show before but I will definitely be watching!
@Augusto0926
@Augusto0926 2 жыл бұрын
This by far the best show I’ve watched in a very long time!
@andrethethinker3498
@andrethethinker3498 Жыл бұрын
Bravo!! I think the producers have done a PHENOMENAL job in creating a television series that UNFORTUNATELY not too often reflects the FULL realities of Black life here in America.
@yassercastillo2607
@yassercastillo2607 2 жыл бұрын
More of them next season please, thank you.
@clove8763
@clove8763 2 жыл бұрын
This I have to see...THANK YOU HBO for contributing to sharing the WHOLE story of Black History! 👍👍👍👍👍👊👊👊👊👊
@almostfame86
@almostfame86 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best new shows this year. Very happy to hear that it has been picked-up for Season 2.
@kirstenirwin9084
@kirstenirwin9084 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad to see a character like Peggy Scott on the show because this is a hugely neglected part of history. I love how she's a budding journalist and has plans and ambition. The picture isn't complete without her.
@TaylorJohnson1
@TaylorJohnson1 Жыл бұрын
My ancestors are a part of this elite history. We are still here, but we lay low. I'm not usually into characters like this, but she was masterfully written.
@thebutterfly6975
@thebutterfly6975 2 жыл бұрын
This is such an excellent series please keep it going
@The11thchapter
@The11thchapter 2 жыл бұрын
I may just get HBO. I'm always so fascinated by the Renaissance area with Black people in Harlem. This is a unknown history to me.
@lruss5050
@lruss5050 2 жыл бұрын
That was a revelation to me! I loved learning this!
@jjupiter1218
@jjupiter1218 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy to see this show exists I’m going to have to binge watch this weekend 🥰🥰
@dharma70
@dharma70 Жыл бұрын
This is sooooo exciting to me. This is exactly my paternal side; they're from New York. I've never seen this on tv or in movies before. And no lady, they weren't subservient.
@kaleahcollins4567
@kaleahcollins4567 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud to be from Brooklyn
@alvinmedina7121
@alvinmedina7121 8 ай бұрын
this is simply incredible . telling this American story , the success, the struggle .
@tyana_allday
@tyana_allday 2 жыл бұрын
This looks amazing!
@donrog5035
@donrog5035 2 жыл бұрын
So great, I love this show very much 😍😍
@yannylane
@yannylane 2 жыл бұрын
Love it! Will check it out
@ruel.e.i.
@ruel.e.i. 2 жыл бұрын
"BORN WITHOUT ENSLAVEMENT AS A REALITY" GENIUS QUOTE🏆
@snsn7251
@snsn7251 2 жыл бұрын
I'm thoroughly enjoying this series. Amazing acting, writing etc
@rumpleforeskin1226
@rumpleforeskin1226 2 жыл бұрын
A breath of fresh care when compared to the rife pain and trauma that is oftentimes the default in the telling of black history. Wealth, innovation and abundance is something we need our kids to see in our past communities as well°•♡
@Danny-fs1hk
@Danny-fs1hk 2 жыл бұрын
I will definitely be watching this one
@Susan.I
@Susan.I 2 жыл бұрын
Wonderful series!
@LDrumsOhio
@LDrumsOhio 2 жыл бұрын
Another reason why I love this show so much!
@PinkLlamaGrl
@PinkLlamaGrl 2 жыл бұрын
I really wish Julian Fellowes would have chosen to make the show solely about the black elite. Maybe we’ll get a spin-off. 🤞🏼🤞🏼
@DeepScreenAnalysis
@DeepScreenAnalysis 2 жыл бұрын
That was not his show to make, he is white.
@PlannedObsolescence
@PlannedObsolescence 9 ай бұрын
@@DeepScreenAnalysis 🙄
@DeepScreenAnalysis
@DeepScreenAnalysis 9 ай бұрын
@@PlannedObsolescence white writers can’t write from the black experience, anybody with sense knows that.
@tbnewhomes
@tbnewhomes 2 жыл бұрын
Love this…. I wish there was a show dedicated to this history
@Just2gofoods
@Just2gofoods 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE this series and love there are Black women who executive produce, write and direct episodes! Proud that character Peggy looks like me! Bravo to Salli, who also directed episodes of The Wheel of Time. ~Elizabeth
@lovejones0686
@lovejones0686 2 жыл бұрын
Found a new show to binge watch!!!
@jeacurry1167
@jeacurry1167 2 жыл бұрын
Oooui…..I gotta watch this tonight! Thanks for the black elite history!!
@kendall9748
@kendall9748 2 жыл бұрын
So excited to watch this
@KaylaElizabeth_h
@KaylaElizabeth_h 2 жыл бұрын
I hope they dig into this more in the season or next season
@triplethreat252
@triplethreat252 2 жыл бұрын
Loveeeee this!
@thekjd
@thekjd 2 жыл бұрын
So obsessed with this show
@Deerych
@Deerych 2 жыл бұрын
My wife & I Love this show!
@dexterellis7818
@dexterellis7818 7 ай бұрын
How refreshing to have black writers writing for a big budget historical TV drama.
@coolabstractart
@coolabstractart 2 жыл бұрын
Love this!
@MoroMoro1
@MoroMoro1 2 жыл бұрын
This is great. I'll have to look into this show now.
@lloydthurstondinwiddieakag297
@lloydthurstondinwiddieakag297 2 жыл бұрын
Im in love with this show!!!!
@cak813
@cak813 8 ай бұрын
Like so many others, I never realized that there was a “black elite” in NYC and I found it fascinating. I hope Season 2 will explore this a bit more. In fact, I’d love to see an entire series about it.
@milieg3309
@milieg3309 2 жыл бұрын
This respect is what's missing in Bridgerton
@orion8835
@orion8835 2 жыл бұрын
Those lives DID exist. It is a collective history and it is very smart to bringing these characters into the show. There are MANY stories of that time. Let’s hope the show illuminates many alongside all of the white elite arcs. It will enrich and educate.
@jllumpas6192
@jllumpas6192 2 жыл бұрын
I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE THIS SERIES❤️❤️❤️
@gettfoffmynews3315
@gettfoffmynews3315 2 жыл бұрын
😲... The things u don't learn in school, oh my!!!! Initially I was already drawn to the show because it was well written and well crafted then the idea was of course an escape, but now to learn something one has never known before is an amazing thing!!! " "His story"whoever he may be should be rewritten and black children, all children, really should definitely learn this piece of History on a daily basis and not monthly. To learn that our people are more than slaves, is the beginning of the truth, but there is more to come historically that I do believe!
@truerthanyouknow9456
@truerthanyouknow9456 2 жыл бұрын
I hope that we see more of The Black Elite in the next series.
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