The Glory and Fall of Patroclus - The Trojan War Saga Ep 23 - See U in History

The Glory and Fall of Patroclus - The Trojan War Saga Ep 23 - See U in History
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[@raptormage2209]

Patroclus: *Bulldozes trough the Trojan army* Apollo: *Disconnects his controller* Patroclus: *dies*

[@stateofflorida5082]

Mf was using the mad katz controller, whaddya expect

[@kodesh1674]

Mario noises 😂😂😂

[@michaeldepinto3562]

Achilles is about to be UNLEASHED

[@elijahtriton4547]

Tnk u so much , Can't wait for next episode , please try and be uploading at least twice a week because I am now bored at home Ur videos are the only thing keeping me busy 🤝

[@Gods7fiatful7kid]

Zeus really be a sore loser

[@savagedarksider5934]

These goddesses are part of my harem. 1. Athena 2. Persephone 3. Hera 4. Aphrodite 5. Nxy 6. Artemis 7. Demeter

[@GothPaoki]

You got 3 feminists there they're gonna eat you alive

[@GennySavastone]

What about mccoist?

[@DimoB8]

How about you touch some grass

[@arturleperoke3205]

Hector right after killing Patroclus: "why do I hear boss music?"

[@alfonsandersson5501]

The doom music started playing

[@LinkNoort]

And the healt bar doesn't go down😂

[@matthewlaurence3121]

Patroclus is often portrayed as a beautiful, cherubic youth whose characteristics contrast that of Achilles, yet this book as well as a passing reference earlier in the Illiad establish him as a manly ferocious warrior in his own right. There seems to be some variation as to the death of Patroclus: the original Homeric telling, has Hecter parade himself in the armour of Achilles in contempt for the Achaeans & Achilles. This act enrages Zeus, as the armour was a gift by the gods to Peleus the father of Achilles and can only be possessed by someone gifted or loaned by an original owner; thus Hecter commits dishonour & Zeus aligns against the Trojans thereafter as a consequence.

[@vituscorvinus3110]

"Patroclus is often portrayed as a beautiful, cherubic youth whose characteristics contrast that of Achilles," This part is probably because of Shakespeare. To the Greeks, Patroclus was the older one/erastes, but Shakespeare kinda warped their relationship to suit his idea I guess.

[@thalmoragent9344]

​​@@vituscorvinus3110I suppose they wanted Achilles to be the 'dominant' one in their relationship, like he was as a Warrior, so switched up the age and dynamics.

[@gibbygoober2864]

In Madeline millers book their still both teens but the Iliad describes him as equal in strength and combat as Achilles, I mean they learned from the same teachers and sparred with each other since they were boys

[@lucianking6078]

So Patroclus almost took down Troy in one day and had to be stopped by a literal god. Talk about badass Well he was also trained by chiron

[@pseudomonas03]

Patroclus vs Sarpedon is one of the gretatest duels in the Iliad, and that because we see that even Zeus himself can't go against to what the Fates decided for each mortal, even if this mortal is a son of Zeus. The battle that followed Patroclus's death, for the retrievement of his dead body is one of the bloodiest in the entire Iliad, and it was once again Ajax in this critical moment, who step forward.

[@wilhelmrk]

Depending on the interpretation, the battle for Sarpedons and Patroclus bodies are the most important ones.

[@lorenzozinco9664]

It’s not that he can’t go against the fates. The main point is that he can’t show too much favouritism otherwise the gods would do even worse taking his actions as an example

[@sorutonamikaze4754]

menelaus saved the corpse of patroclus

[@jewris.art11]

Patroclus was destined to die. A pawn of one of the gods but a soulmate to the strongest warrior in great mythology.

[@gooddeity8487]

The rage of Achilles is gonna rain upon Trojans

[@lafreyaya9629]

"What has Hector ever done to me?"

[@RepubliKING]

Just think,Patroclus death sealed Troy's fate... Achilles was not only ok with not fighting this war anymore, but he had fallen in love and his heart of granite had finally been touched. Fate is a strange thing.

[@aniruddhbhatkal1834]

I had no idea Patroclus was in fact defeated by Euphorbus, not Hector. What happened to Euphorbus? I'd gave thought Achilles would want his hide just as badly as Hector's

[@matthewlaurence3121]

Nor did I, it was always Hecter who did the slaying following a hard battle. It might be because Patroclus was prophesied to fall in the event that he crossed paths with him, and it is Hecter who takes credit for slaying Patroclus, in addition to profaning the Armour of Peleus(father of Achilles), and leading the Trojan forces?

[@raptormage2209]

He tried to take Patroclus' body but instead he got a spear from Menelaus whom was defending his corpse.

[@LordWyatt]

“That boy just won this war for us.” -King Agamemnon at Patroclus’ pyre

[@LL-id5ij]

*Saved

[@ThePaganSun]

In the MOVIE. In the actual Iliad, Agamemnon himself almost takes down Troy. And he wasn't added by gods or had Achilles' armor, chariot and the Myrmidons.

[@navdhillon7912]

Achilles' "friend" lol

[@x-omnistar-x9602]

Although it is true that Patroclus and Achilles were portrayed as lovers in later retellings of the Illiad that occured 200 years after Homer’s death, in the first tellings of the myth by Homer himself, the two WERE actually just friends. Their bond was intended to symbolize the undying loyalty between brothers in arms.

[@jorgecuevas8843]

3:12 "cherished friend" why don't You Say what he really was?

[@bubunmukherjee2857]

Man did not yet sink to that amount of depravity in those ages

[@E.F5980]

Zeus: Oh no! Sarpedon, my child, he's in danger!! Ares: Dad! I was in danger as well! Zeus: Excuse you, but who are you again?

[@isaklal518]

I get the joke but we all know Ares was just whining and wasn't really in danger

[@eelchiong6709]

@@isaklal518 Ares after being wounded by an Athena-guided spear from Diomedes: Tis just a scratch!

[@Lazarus-qd3wu]

​@@isaklal518Was he even whining? I haven't read this story yet, but it seems like Ares is just showing off a cool battle wound for his dad to stick on the refrigerator.

[@ahsanfarazansari4770]

In the next episode, Achilles- "HECTOOOOORRRRRRR!!!!!"

[@rickywyness5230]

LOVER* They were not merely friends.

[@NoelleIsTheGeoArchon]

Achilles: I dont feel fighting the Trojans. Pratoclus dies. Achilles: F*ck! Trojans going down!

[@C9316]

"I'm sorry Achilles, but Patroclus is dead." *To Be Continued*

[@megabladechronicles962]

Patroclus had it coming, he was warned by Achilles not to fight Hector

[@panmeilungdaini4353]

But it's was god's plan

[@panmeilungdaini4353]

Patrockus could have won against Hector

[@michaeldepinto3562]

He wasn't a Coward and went Down like a True Warrior!

[@arliesam217]

​@@panmeilungdaini4353 mythological God

[@wilhelmrk]

Patroclus was warned because Apollo would struck down the one that wore that armour. Basically what achilles said was: If you get into the reach of Troys walls and archers, Apollo will guide an arrow to struck whoever wears this armour

[@ladynikkie]

What a way to start the weekend by seeing another video from you guys

[@charliemcternan8190]

The net episode of the Great War thdi will be crsyz

[@MCorpReview]

Not too shabby man this Patroclus. Can beat a son of Zeus

[@reddhafallen7289]

It is disgraceful to intervene in human conflict to protect one if their descendants. And yet isn't that what Aphrodite did? To save her son, only for Diomedes to recklessly graze her hand with a spear.

[@wilhelmrk]

Yes, so basically they Gods intervened in the war directly at the beginning, with Ares and Apollo even going so far as roaming the battlefield (that is when Diomedes defeats Ares by throwing his spear into the belly of the god of war). Only after that does Zeus decree that no god should interfere (directly).

[@lukavidakovic2385]

Ares apollo athena and aphrodite did it from the start but when zeus wants oooh noooo

[@matthewlaurence3121]

That's part of the Epic, men from far away fighting a war instigated by entities more powerful than themselves, who direct their fates. A parallel to real world conflicts.

[@michaeldepinto3562]

@@lukavidakovic2385 LOL

[@klausbrinck2137]

Of course it is disgraceful, but gods will break the rules just slightly less than mortals will. The concept of belief was different back then, by Greeks anyway, and they didn´t have organized religion (the birthcause of all evil)... That´s why western Europe had 1000years of dark ages, while the eastern roman empire had none of it: Eastern Romans were romanized Greeks, and the emperor had all powers, while the christian church being just another power-tool of his, used with great wisdom. Western Europe had continous wars between emperors and popes, and when the popes were winning, Europe was sinking deeper in the dark ages, and when the emperor was winning, they were merely getting the chance to correct the damage, that the previously ruling pope has caused, without any net-progress for 1000years...

[@kevin-2.1]

If Apollo haven’t come Patroclus would of challenge Hector to a fight.

[@KeepCalmContemplateYourChoices]

"What has Hector ever done to me?"

[@y.ucenXiang6082]

Greek mythology is one of my favorite mythology, i love this channel and will continue on hearing its tales

[@FluffeyPandasWorld]

Ajax the Great Ultimate Dead Body Snatcher of the Trojan War.

[@jasonpower6578]

Fun Fact: Achilles and Patroclus are cousins (not because of the the Troy 2004 film). They were actual cousins in greek myth since you can trace their genealogy to Aegina who is the great grandmother of Achilles and Patroclus

[@vituscorvinus3110]

There are 4 different versions of parenthood for Patroclus I believe. Only one implies blood connection. Like how Ganymede had 4-5 fathers depending on the version of the myth.

[@lckyminer_2256]

How old is that source came upon?

[@50frogsinatrenchcoat9]

No

[@jasonpower6578]

@@50frogsinatrenchcoat9 Yes it's true

[@SkullRaine]

You going to include penthiseala the amazonian queen and the African king Memnon. Sorry spelled the queen's name wrong. Lots of people never talk about them. They came in after Hector's death

[@macthurmenbutist2180]

Finally some entertainment

[@13superjedi]

I could see this being like a story arc in a Game of Thrones style show with Greek History and Mythology the way this channel tells the events. Awesome videos!

[@joss4074]

His best friend since child hood dies, causing Achilles to go on a vengeful rampage. Modern Historians: This clearly demonstrates that Achilles was after that Patroclussy

[@TraderKentaro]

That's the tragic end of Achilles' husband...

[@rowenavillanueva2606]

TROY IS GONNA FALL HUWAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@BuriedAlien-TRN242]

1:48 did you say Patroclos dodged a spear ? And the picture show us he dodged an axe 🤔 ?

[@BovineDesigns]

1:22 this is the one time I agree with Zeus, the other gods have been constantly interfering with the war to save individuals.

[@christianchauhan23]

❤ all your video's mate 👍.

[@tyrrant1374]

Almost every modern movie trope comes from this story but still the Trojan war feels so good

[@danewillis263]

It was at this moment that the tide of the war turns in the Greeks favor

[@DarthDread-oh2ne]

2:08 Zeus cared about his boy

[@moonbeam3010]

Next Chapter Patroclus: Hectoc: Uh oh

[@slayer5571]

Can't wait for the next video !

[@Numidiary]

I like the fire and steam effects in this one

[@boreasthehero]

When will the Arthurian Legends story continue again?

[@50frogsinatrenchcoat9]

I swear if say that they are just friends

[@50frogsinatrenchcoat9]

And you said it

[@christianalvarez197]

You guys narrate that Sarpedon has a spear but show him with an axe....?

[@MrWadewynn]

I don’t like this version, the version i grew up reading was where Patroclus fought hard and well and held his own against Hector who was always at an advantage, but the match was relatively even until Hector finally triumphed. It also explains how Achilles so easily killed Hector since Hector couldn’t easily best Patroclus

[@Geets99]

This sounds more realistic but i assure u the version of the video is the written one.. actually im pretty shocked with the precision and details of the whole series cause its actually almost exactly what is written in original Iliad.. terrific work from the channel (P.s. Im Greek✌🏼)

[@MrWadewynn]

@@Geets99 interesting. The one i read had no god interference, so that makes me sad your version is the correct one. But either way Patroclus dies

[@lordawesometony2764]

**Patroclus wins** **Final Fantasy Victory Song Plays**

[@kie-skatemods4141]

These are re awesome! Keep them up

[@bobbysalkeld2634]

This channel is awesome as I've been interested in myths and legends of of different cultures since I was a kid. Good stuff.

[@alicerivierre]

♥️🗡⚔️♥️🗡⚔️♥️🗡⚔️♥️🗡⚔️

[@aubreyyoung6664]

The only difference is that in the story Patroclus was his friend but in the movie Troy he was his cousin it’s a really big difference

[@GothPaoki]

They were cousins in the story as well.

[@GothPaoki]

@@mpfunomkhwebane5362 nope they weren't

[@shonenhikada9254]

@@mpfunomkhwebane5362 The whole idea that they were lovers came from the misguided book "song of achilles" which wanted to push LGBT+ lifestyle. And as we all know, liberals love to turn everyone gay in fiction just for "representation" and "inclusion".

[@rkllteles]

@@whatever_he_wants Did you even read The Iliad? Patroclus and Acchiles being lovers is a fanfiction by Madeline Miller.

[@crimsonthumos3905]

@@mpfunomkhwebane5362 change tje story? They weren't lovers in the Illiad, stop getting your mythology from Tumblr

[@DeepBlueSea692]

Where’s part 2?

[@goaheadandcrylittlegirl3222]

Greek mythology❤❤❤

[@chefy807]

friend?

[@gooddeity8487]

Fans from India🇮🇳🇮🇳 ❤❤❤

[@savagedarksider5934]

I went south on Aphrodite and Persephone and Athena

[@adu-boakyecollins8576]

Can't wait for the next part

[@gemma7842]

Hope there’s a next video.. been watching all your videos. Your voice is soothing…

[@arliesam217]

Achilles revenge was pathetic

[@shanequigley7552]

Great channel

[@Samael66638]

Now i just want too see Achilles in action plz make that video soon ❤️❤️❤️

[@Sulla-ps3jv]

The song is Arrival by Edgar Hopp.

[@markermarque9843]

Keep it coming good sir... I absolutely love your channel's contents...

[@saladsnake8289]

Patroclus got nerfed hard.

[@cristsan4171]

Apollo doing a karate chop. So this is a Hentai

[@Tekmirion]

Very good

[@josebarros582]

thats total war troy sarpedon =)

[@farah_nm162]

Can we have more of this saga, please??🥺🥺

[@MaylenSan]

This is an excellent video series

[@lanzhanweiying6875]

I'm so excited for the next episode

[@maianhquang5425]

MORE! MORE!

[@iamjabby3688]

Great series

[@efaristi9737]

Nestor did a oopsie daisy XD

[@acheampongisaac1734]

Yes indeed Patroclus was a fool to fight hector that day

[@gorvarhadgarson5227]

Achilles was Patrocles' "training partner" eh? Alright....

[@LewiLuvLife]

“Friend” they were boyfriends

[@-RONNIE]

Thanks for the video 👍🏻

[@1sonjohn44]

The boy lover of Achilles also....

[@acientwomangreek1733]

...why is everyone there so white tho ....

[@achilles7607]

"Even though twenty such as you had come in against me, they would all have been broken beneath my spear, and have perished." - Patroclus🏺⚔️