The God Emperors Most Holy Inquisition! The Radical Xanthites! Fighting Chaos With Chaos! 40k Lore

[@QixTheDS]

Arch seems the type of Inquisitor to have a secret base in an asteroid because everybody hates him for exposing their secrets and educating the masses.

[@tba113]

You're not wrong, though I suspect most Inquisitors who make it past their first couple investigations have something like that.

[@georgecostanza7990]

He would clearly be a Xanthite himself , I don't think any lore master worth his salt would deny the effectiveness of using Chaos against itself if they truly understand how the warp functions in 40k

[@luckyleo25]

@@georgecostanza7990 The Inquisition should really just dictate on this on a case by case basis and let the Xanthites police themselves. But you would have to have a watchdog organization to police the Xanthites. That is the problem. I see the Puritans' viewpoint on this. This is a slippery slope because Chaos always corrupts. Those who are familiar with Gregori Eisenhorn knows that he is a diehard Puritan of the Ordos Xenos who hates TO LOSE. It is his greatest strength -- his indomitable will to WIN. And read his novels to see where that indomitable will lead to in his later career. (By the way, he is my favorite 40K character, just inching out Caiaphas Cain by a short hair)

[@Zakanuva]

@KucklePuff _Dammit!_ You stole my idea!

[@H_Hold]

Thus he is my favorite Inquisitor,

[@irateastartes1206]

I've always wondered if a radical inquisitor looks around at his ship, his sword made of shadows and spite whispering to him about murdering innocents, the gibbering chaos cultist who in his madness give "prophecies" chained to a corner and a literal demon possession right behind him and goes: "yeah I might have gone just a bit too far." Ibram Gaunt had it right "The only defense against chaos is an armor of contempt."

[@SwampGreen14]

On the other hand, it is quite impressive. There aren't alot of people in the Imperium that can be surrounded by all this and still be unaffected. You really have to be a true believer to simply tell your daemon sword to "shut the fuck up".

[@bradymenting5120]

The Armor of Contempt is definitely a great defense, but for offense you need something a bit more proactive, like the power of Chaos

[@irateastartes1206]

@@bradymenting5120 Nope! For offense the Omnisiah gave us cyclonic torpedoes and hate.

[@notinspectorgadget]

"...are we the baddies?" - Inquisitorial adept Mitchell

[@mivapusa]

*Arch! Give us a video on the humble, unassuming Commissars, and why they are actually exceedingly underappreciated for the job they do.*

[@SilverStarHeggisist]

Apparently Ukraine is trying them out

[@devilsadvocate1380]

@@SilverStarHeggisist I thought it was Russia, shows how reliable information on the conflict is.

[@SilverStarHeggisist]

@@devilsadvocate1380 I know right. Apparently Ukraine started a campaign of shooting foreign fighters who desert on sight. It seems that they're having a serious issue of people who don't know what war actually is, going over to fight who the second they encounter actual combat, runaway. I assume Russia has had this policy from before day one lol.

[@SilverStarHeggisist]

@@devilsadvocate1380 I know right. Apparently Ukraine started a campaign of shooting foreign fighters who desert on sight. It seems that they're having a serious issue of people who don't know what war actually is, going over to fight who the second they encounter actual combat, runaway. I assume Russia has had this policy from before day one lol.

[@LazzarrusLong]

*Bold* font is the new CAPS lock. 😃 Edit: J/k with ya

[@maddlarkin]

'Should Chaos be used to fight Chaos?' I only really know what any experienced Guardsman knows, The Emporor Protects, call up flamers for any shrine that doesn't have The God Emperor on it, don't stare at the weird symbols which cause headaches or sickness when you glance at 'em. If you hear whispering, leave the area immediately and in the event you find a weird glowy object covered in runes, don't pick it up, just kick some rubble on it and walk away, if anyone shows up with a big I on their uniform and/or a pointy hat asking questions later the answer is always, 'Sorry Sir, I don't know anything about that, not my sector... try H Company, I think they were in that zone' (With most Inquisitors having little idea how The Guard actually functions whether or not H Company actually exists is usually unimportant)

[@zentralratderfliesentischb660]

Tell him its in the assembly area. After he got the key for it im sure he will find it there.

[@highinquisitorvanwiller8904]

-=][=- Oh, really now. Not cool Guardsman, not cool. It's not so much that I'm mad, it's more so that I'm disappointed, disappointed that the Commissarate of this Battalion hasn't executed the dissenters and heretics from their ranks making me have to...This hurts me more than you guardsman because this is the Emperor's mercy. The Emperor protects. )Draws out an ornately embellished Inferno Pistol and then summarily executes the two bantering guardsmen.(

[@maddlarkin]

@@highinquisitorvanwiller8904 I got a bit carried away and Role play wrote a whole incident report (please feel free to ignore, but it made me happy) Incident Report 52785927 Fatal Shooting of Ordo's operative on REDACTED, Scarus Sector during pacification Counter Insurgance(Heretic) Operations Northern Continent Theatre of REDACTED Capital City REDACTED Dated: REDACTED028.M42 An individual in elaborate civilan garb approached gate 7 of the Primary Compound for pacification operations in the area (See attached intelligence files for current operational details) Guardsmen Serial 87214 and Serial 97261 [Administrutum Note: full 18 number serial has been abbreviated to the last 5 numbers for purposes of brevity as all involved Soldiers served in the same regiment, see full report appendix 8. For full details and regimental signifier] the figure attempted to engage the soldiers in conversation about tactical deployment of IG forces and the nature of item/items encountered or recovered during said operation, Guardsman 87214 issued a challenged demanding to know the individuals identity and authority to be both in the area of the base and for the information being demanded as per standard procedure (see reference manual 14a 835.M41reprint 'Security of Militarium facilities and bases during urban pacification operations) upon this demand the individual shook his head and produced a weapon from under his coat and began raising it at the Guardman. It was at this point Specialist 76321 who had been positioned to provide sniper overwatch for the gate positions 6, 7 and 8 engaged the individual discharging a single high intensity (hotshot) las-round which struck the individual in the chest (see attached autopsy for full details of injuries sustained), although in most circumstance such a wound would be instantly fatal the individual was staggered but remained standing and continued to raise his weapon, at this point Guardmen 87214 and 97261 fearing for their safety began retreating from the individual to the cover of a nearby fortified position (the sandbag reinforced checkpoint cabin see attached diagram 6 for details of the incident location) both began firing repeated shots on full auto from their Mk 4.Tigrius pattern Lasrifles at the individual striking several them times (again refer to attached autopsy for full details) as before in 99.9% of cases recorded by Imperial Combat Forces such a barrage of fire would prove instantly fatal to a non-augmented human/human like target,, however the individual not only remained standing but returned fire with a pistol type weapon of unknown design doing significant damage to the reinforced checkpoint. Given the nature of the foe faced on REDACTED an insurgency force giving worship to REDACTED a call was issued over the Vox by Guardsmen 87214 as follows, "SPECTRE, WE GOT A FRAKING SPECTRE GATE 7" Spectre being the locally employed slang among IG forces for catogry 3 possessed individuals known to be employed by the insurgents as terror weapons (see attached files appendix 12 through 26 for 'Spectre' attacks on IG forces in similar circumstances in the 6 weeks proceeding the incident) Both Guardsmen reported that the Individual was yelling something but they were unable to discern what was being said over the sound of their lasfire. At this point Specialist 76321 fired again striking the individual in the side of the head, again while not fatal this shot did drop the individual to his knees Specialist 81134 acting as spotter for Specialist 76321 also engaged on select fire with his lasrifle hitting the individual several times centre mass. The combined weight of fire at this point seems to of incapacitated the individual and they dropped the pistol and fell to their hands and knees. However the individual still appeared to be alive and moving and given the abilities of encountered 'Spectres' was still considered a threat by all present. It was at this point x3 Sentinels from the Perimeter Security detachments rapid reaction force arrived in response to the above 'SPECTRE' vox call and engaged, it is believed that the fatal shot was fired by Operator 63421's vehicle mounted Lascannon which vaporized the head and uppee shoulders of the target resulting in instant death. In hindsight it would be clear that the use of an exotic firearm is inconsistent with a 'Spectre' attack (use of bare hands, blades or improved melee weapons being the norm, with only one use of any type of firearm recorded which was Mk.36 Kantreel lasrifle ripped from the hands of a Guardsmen then inserted into REDACTED and then REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED and REDACTED resulting in death) and the individual in this cases unusual survival characteristics being a result of augmentics, spealist armour of an unknown type and a type 16 refractor field rather than REDACTED derived supernatural abilities which Guard Forces in this region had previously been exposed to, though at the time as seen from the attached accounts that was far less clear. The result of this being that this was a blue on blue incident resulting from a misidentification of an individual as a Spectre which REDACTED derived characteristics rather than an enhanced Ordo's Agent with specialist equipment. No identification was found on the body, identity (which has been withheld from this report as per SOP with all Ordo involved incidents) as an Inquisiton Agent was established via DNA analysis post mortem and confirmed by the Office of Inquisitorial Liaison as of DATE REDACTED -Investigation carried out by the Astra Militarium Provost Marshal Divison, Field Investigation unit 18, over seen by Commissar Holt, all recorded details and interviews available in attached Data reels -Attached Note from General Snider, O/C Counter Insurgency Operations REDACTED Scarus Sector.- This is a regrettable incident and again highlights the need for all Inquisitors or accredited Ordo Operatives carrying out their duties in areas of Active Guard operations (though obviously not when currently investigating said units in such areas of operation) to not only make themselves known to Guard command but also to have fully familirised themselves with not only the standard operational and security procedures of the Asta Militarium but those of the local regiments involved and any theatre specific amendment to the SROE, I suggest all Ordo Operatives in Sector are again issued with a copy of 'Procedures for Unconvential/Special/Inquisitorial Forces when carrying out operations alongside Conventional Astra Militarium/Adeptus Astartes Forces Revison 167 Guilliman M42.004' as a starting point for avoiding such incidents in the future, such as an unidentifed Inquisitor raising a weapon in the middle of a post full of strung out trigger happy Guardsmen. Please note all noted troopers involved have been reprimanded (see attach file's 7-9, details of said being overseen and approved by Commissar Holt) and all exotic weapons/items and recovered affects will of been returned to The Central Inquisiton office on Thracian Primus with this data spool, you will note there is not Rosette included, none was recovered from the body and as it is inconceivable the Inquisitor did not have it on his person at the time Field Investigation Unit 18 concluded it was also vapourised by the Lascannon shot, Commissar Holt conducted a full search of all regimental personnel and equipment and facilities ensuring it hadn't been recovered by any Guardsmen or Officer present as you can see from all 16,000 attached search files no rosette or similar item was recovered (although a small mountain of contraband was which is being dealt with by the provost marshal's office) so I can assure you there is absolutely no danger of any Guardsmen posing as a Inquisitor as a result of this incident. General L. Snider Officer Commanding 8/98th Army Integrated Command

[@yetipotato8567]

If you use heretical means to kill a heretic, the amount of heretics stays the same, so you need to aim higher to get real results

[@killsode4760]

for every heretic you kill afternthe first, it's net gains!

[@QixTheDS]

Well then you just gotta use heretical means to kill several heretics.

[@RheaGotGreened]

But if you kill 10,000 heretics, the number of heretics drops dramatically

[@QixTheDS]

@@RheaGotGreened I like your style.

[@stillwaitingforsomethingto4030]

kill more heretics to lower then

[@JohnTrustworthy]

"A Radical is only as useful as the Puritan that watches his every step." - Me right now.

[@michelveilleux2075]

Nice. Have a like

[@highinquisitorvanwiller8904]

-=][=- That is fair enough for me.

[@dragonturtle2703]

It is important to distinguish between the chaos specifically and the warp as a whole. Chaos all stems from, and is an extension of, at least one of the chaos gods. Thus, using chaos to defeat chaos can win a battle, but never a war, as the battle will either be a way to corrupt you, or to strike at a rival god. Using the warp in general, that is a good idea. The Eldar do it all the time.

[@robertnelson9599]

That’s how the Grey Knights are so effective.

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

I would liken using Chaos to fight Chaos to using one ant colony to fight another ant colony. While it is true that the vast majority of ant species will not tolerate the existence of another ant colony and both colonies will wage a war of extermination against each other, once the fighting is over, even if the ants you introduced succeed in wiping out the ants you were trying to get rid of, well now you're back to square one. You still have an ant pile you need to get rid of.

[@ju5t1ce33]

Sounds like, The Octarius War…

[@lordbread8102]

Or, you called for help in dealing with the idiot Alpharius, only to have Alpharius show up, kill Alpharius, Leave, come back with a second Alpharius, then revealing to you that, *You* are in fact also Alpharius

[@lyravain6304]

However, hopefully, the surviving colony will have been sufficiently weakened by the whole ordeal. It's fighting fire with fire. A losing gamble but, considering the kind of enemies the Imperium has to deal with, possibly a well-calculated one.

[@Furzkampfbomber]

@@lyravain6304 Good point. Also, one can hope that while those two parties keep themselfes busy long enough for you to regain your breath and maybe take care of some other things in the meantime.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

Bigger magnifying glass go **Snap Crackle Pop**

[@wintersking4290]

It would be very interesting to have a story about inquisitors playing chaos cults of different gods against each other. Basically getting Slaanesh and Khorne against each other for example.

[@shawnm1902]

But, what do they do with all the screams of "take it, take it" and "harder daddy"?

[@dingdongpizza2585]

I believe there are mentions of chaos fighting, between khorne and slannesh, in the ciaphas Cain books. I definitely think there could be paths to setting something like that up

[@Schnittertm1]

But wouldn't they inadvertedly help Tzeentch get more powerful by basically playing his game?

[@dingdongpizza2585]

@@Schnittertm1 true, but all plans and such give a small trickle of power, the real win comes from dedicated worship

[@kobold7466]

@@Schnittertm1 alll war including war done by the imperium feed khorn, all excess including excessive worship of the emperor feeds slaanesh, all will to live against pain feeds nurgle, and all planning or scheming feeds tzeentch. there is no way to live without feeding the gods

[@nickolauscantor1572]

Puritan Inquisitors arriving on planet: "Fellow Imperial citizens! We are here to save you..." Random civvies trapped on hive world in the midst of a heretic uprising: "Hooray! It's the Inquisition!" Puritan Inquisitors: "FROM YOURSELVES!!!" **starts up their twin flamers** Random civvies: "oh-no, it's the inquisiton"

[@marvinthomas9897]

Classic reference.

[@jaywerner8415]

Best start believing in being fire proof then.

[@michelveilleux2075]

*insert Catholic church here*

[@drarsen33]

That moment made 0 sense to me. Effectiveness of holy relics against vampires basically dispel all Protestant tenets and proves Catholics to be correct. If they have just targeted vampires, majority of population would convert in a heart beat.

[@letsgobrandon4175]

"Chaos is a ladder!" - Xanthites, probably

[@shawnm1902]

Chutes and ladders

[@grahamgibbons5722]

+1 like for the game of thrones reference.

[@bradymenting5120]

@@shawnm1902 more like Shoots and ladders

[@Flight_of_Icarus]

The inner Thousand Son in me is getting more furious with Imperial Hypocrisy by the second.

[@lordfrostwind3151]

The Xanithites are fascinating in a lot of ways, I mean who doesn't want to try and understand how the enemy works and how best to destroy them? But this is very dangerous fire to play with, actually it's honestly like trying to study a sentient, self replicating nuclear fuel rod that wants nothing more than to make the biggest boom possible, but failing that is happy to give you a nice dose of radiation sickness. What doomed the Thousand Sons in this regard I believe was their arrogance, when you're dealing with the warp you can't be complacent or arrogant for even a moment, otherwise you will end up strung up by the very powers you thought you had mastered. As they always reminded us in firearms training, you only have to screw up once and inevitably one day you will, never think you're too good for the basic safety rules. Though I can't quite remember, are Horusians a split off group from the Xanithites or are they pretty much their own thing?

[@cnlbenmc]

I think you might be thinking of Phaeonites; they're a truly Heretical offshoot that hides amongst the Xanthites that have no loyalty to the Imperium and think they can use Chaos as a tool for their own power. They have a fetish for making abominations of flesh,machine and daemon.

[@elysiankentarchy1531]

The Horusians predate the Xanthites as their controversy involves the founders of the Inquisition and Xanthus might have been a Horusian but that was never confirmed. Overall, they can be considered similar since both want to use the Warp/Chaos, but the Horusians have a very specific goal in mind (use Chaos to revive the Emperor).

[@thorveim1174]

@@elysiankentarchy1531 also horusians are a group that branched off of the Thorians.. i think overall they are thorians that came to similar conclusions as of the Xanthites, rather than the two being more directly related

[@cethapplegate594]

Ah the three daemonhost summoning any% Speedrun. What makes it harder is that the three poor sods ho had their bodies taken, may not have been fully co-operative. Still i think the Word bearer's hold the record.

[@joezhangmd]

Ahh brings back memories. I ran as an obulationist acolyte in a fantasy flight 40k game. So much fun roleplaying the self damned. One of the most interesting experiences since it was pretty unique way of arguing with your detractors.

[@andrewmcgraw4811]

ANYTHING related to the Warp is inherently risky. Just being *aware* of things in the Warp can make you vulnerable to them. What the Imperium sanctions as "acceptable" is only tolerated because it has a *controllable* amount of risk; barely controllable, in some cases. The Xanthites are playing a dangerous game; when you play with fire, you're not the only one who could get burned...

[@cnlbenmc]

But the Xanthites in general understand these risks and will lash out with tremendous fury and vitriol at any of their number that step over the line; especially the Heretical Phaeonite sect.

[@thesecondguywhoknowsthings7154]

Maybe this practice should be accepted then and a separate police force will police the police force for making sure they haven't stepped beyond the line

[@thesecondguywhoknowsthings7154]

Also being the most devoted comes with some upsides besides having a stick so far up ones ass is that well chaos has a hard time even dislodging this stick to gets it own stick up there

[@moonfale]

Tech-Priest in the background: Nope, Fuck it I'm out. This guy is going to get us all killed with one.

[@randomcenturion7264]

The Inquisition wasting literal decades of time in a political mudslinging contest. Yup. Definitely the Imperial bureaucratic nightmare we know and love.

[@robertnelson9599]

The Administratum fills that role.

[@jtfbreedlove]

Send a prayer to the god emperor that emperor that Gregor doesn't get done dirty.

[@TheGosgosh]

Toss some faith to your god emperor, o valley of plenty.

[@Makorze]

I think Gregor is aware he is burning his candle from both ends. The fact that he managed to "reach an understanding" with his daemonhost is interesting. Cherubael's personality is alot different. He seems to be having fun walking this journey with Eisenhorn, he seems to really enjoy fighting other daemonhosts just to prove he is better. I think Gregor is willingly taking the path of the Radical because he knows Ravenor is always behind to deal with him when the time comes.

[@CatholicDragoon]

I love this! The radical factions of the Inquisition are particularly interesting in their relative freedom to develop their ideologies. And since the Inquisition can hijack Imperial resources for their needs, the more heretical elements could put together some...interesting armies for their wars and rebellions, such as the Phaenonites.

[@lukafreek8147]

I always believed that it's the belief of the person shooting the bullet that damage the demon rather than physical bullet it self. Like if I believe that my shot will kill that thing crawling on the floor at me, it will damage it or kill it if I believe enough.

[@Coyotebriggs]

Well also don't most all weapons in 40k have rituals and stuff done when they're made, I thought I read somewhere that with bolters each SHELL is individually blessed. Also I think the most common weapon well, any, Imperial enemy is gonna come across would be a LOT of lazgun fire.

[@saeyabor]

This comes back to "Armor of Contempt." You don't have to convince yourself against all sense & evidence that your standard bullet will affect the demon. If you know it's a walking blasphemy and hate it for being one, that can imbue your bullet with the potential.

[@NetMoverSitan]

You've covered their chamber militants (e.g. the Deathwatch, the Grey Knights and the Sisters of Battle) | 19:45 - It means that it's not without risk. | 33:40 - Much as how the Orks impart effects on colours, due to belief.

[@Nathan_Moor]

To explain the corrupting influence of chaos: Its like gravity, it requires constant effort to remain standing, learn to sleep while standing, never sit down, never lie down, never kneel down. As long as you do this forever after coming into contact with chaos, you will continue to resist it. Let just hope you don't stumble...

[@travisviener4807]

These lore videos bring me peace, in some weird way, like a good history book.

[@launch4]

All good sci-fi or fantasy stories do. It's why it's a bad when the fictional universe takes a sudden turn that goes completely against the prior history of the setting. Warhammer 40,000 is an excellent example of both.

[@travisviener4807]

@@launch4 it really was perfectly grounded and fantastical at the same time. Now from what I hear it’s just random shit to make the random plots go forward.

[@inquisitorgarza312]

Chaos is by far the worst weapon to use against Chaos, and no doubt that any inquisitor thinks himself pure enough to wield these weapons are bound to be corrupted in the end.

[@gp-1542]

I think something like gray knight get it done right Because…well… *there were designed to kill chaos and be immune to chaos*

[@farmerboy916]

I think the real question is, by destroying a chaos artifact (of middling or lesser quality, a major one is too dangerous to keep around) do you lessen the total amount of chaos or chaos artifacts in the galaxy? Or does the energy within simply return to the warp to be remade into new artifacts? If the latter, the seizure and destruction of minor artifacts is only a stop-gap goal to be done as required or at your leisure, rather than a focus. I would simply draw a _hard line_ between knowing how chaos works to use its own nature and rules against it (or manipulating chaos entities/ worshippers to work against their own interests), and using chaotic artifacts or rituals or granting any clemency. No doubt that most who would try to wield them would be corrupted; I find it telling that this line is not drawn, as it would encourage inquisitors to be tempted…

[@malaficus]

Your right. Eldar, necron, tau, tyranids, etc. None of them need to use chaos to beat chaos. But. They got a major advantage over the imperium. They understand chaos. The great irony of the imperium is that all the supression of chaos makes them vunerable too it.

[@licensed_beheader]

@@gp-1542 no the grey knights dont use chaos , they use the warp two different things . Its extremely extremely rare for them to even entertain the idea of using chaos coz they know 99% of the time it ends up with corruption and taint .

[@licensed_beheader]

@@malaficus The imperium understands chaos . Grey knights , inquisition, ecclesiarchy etc know about chaos . Also the tau think daemons are some xenos to be tamed , even farsight doesn't fully grasp the chaos concept but he knows they are not xenos . And everyone suppresses chaos pylons for necrons , shadow in warp for the nids , mental discipline and psychic suppression for eldar to avoid slaanesh, dim souls for tau and inquisition and grey knights for humans .

[@BlazenRocker93]

What a coincidence, I just rewatched the episode of the Badab war that mentioned these dudes during my morning commute. Guess this will be my evening commute listen.

[@mrwri]

"If it looks dumb, but it works, it's not dumb." "If it seems heretical, but it works, it's not heretical."

[@pirig-gal]

Unless it's done by someone else, then it's heretical.

[@mutegrab666]

Until it corrupts you, which is always a when, and not an if.

[@lordfrostwind3151]

Until it suddenly goes pear shaped and you're left holding the bag by some nightmare horror from the dawn of civilization, see Magnus the Red.

[@marcinzysko1653]

the funniest example of heresy accusation is when this whole Xanthism thing goes arround and youre being accused for - Destroying chaotic artefact, because it could be studied :p Straight form Eisenhorn.

[@Benthesniperof8]

][ ][ ][ The Emperor Protects! [Inquisitor Log] Subject: Inquisitor (B)Archhammer Inquisition branch: Ordos Archos Status: Current Whereabouts unknown, Was cleared of the threat of outright Excommunication in M40 656; reason for attempted Excommunication [REDACTED]. Sententenced to 18 months liaison with some very an enthusiastic Mechanicus Magos on a Tundra Forge World. Considering the charges of [REDACTED], levied in no small part by the Ordos Jarrus of the Adeptus Mechanicus; it should be considered that this was judged to be a fate worse than death for the inquisitor. Whilst ensuring that he would continue to put his arcane knowledge to beneficial use for the foreseeable future. +[Log Update]+ Prisoner transfer of Inquisitor Arch intercepted by suspected Xanthite radicals. Ordos Hereticus has confirmed that they have no less than 9 inquisitors involved in tracking down the suspected Xanthites. Unknown whether Inquisitor Archhammer is directly involved. Further evaluation may be required on behalf of Ordos Malleolus.... +[Faith in the emperor, contempt for the wicked. It is better to die in the service to our glorious emperor, than to live in decadence for ourselves.]+ Signed, Lord Inquisitor Reberto Bartomello, Ordos Malleolus [Log Entry Complete] ][ ][ ][

[@trickster3696]

I read that there are two minor Ordos, one dedicated to learning the history of the Inquisition and one dedicated to keeping it secret.

[@TheEldritchGod]

As a floating cloud of spite and eyes, I wish to weigh in saying, why yes, there is nothing chaos fears more than you using chaos against us. Yeah... that's it... slather that chaos all over your body... yeah... just like that... Mmm... Absolutely terrifying.

[@BeastGrid]

Ahh, now this is entertainment, 45 min 40k lore on the universe's most uptight group of genocidal religious maniacs.

[@sadwingsraging3044]

What you call genocide I call a days work. Primarch McCarthy

[@travisviener4807]

What you call genocide, we call a clean slate. -someone who has their head on straight

[@alcohol-freebeer3642]

I dunno, I feel like the Inquisition generating publicity for getting the "Universe's most uptight group of genocidal maniacs" award would probably inspire a "Hold my beer" moment from the Black Templars at least. And that's just the obvious candidates, there'd be a lot of other Imperial factions keen to grab that coveted title too.

[@orrorsaness5942]

@@alcohol-freebeer3642 and then there’s Chaos

[@jamesgorman5241]

When you forget it's Friday and Arch makes the day better.

[@knowplay3258]

AMEN! Praise the Emperor!

[@shawnm1902]

Does that make it a good Friday?

[@you1027]

I wonder if 40k Inquisitor Martyr holds up today. I dipped a toe ina while back, but never got far enough into the roll of the endgame material. Juicy setting and ideas, from what I recall I mention it because there is a bit of an alignment system in it, between puritan and radical. Imperial orthodox and Xanthite.

[@lordfrostwind3151]

It's worth a playthrough, I played as a Crusader but I think Psyker or Assassin are more fun for first time playthrough, I can't speak for the two classes they've added. I do just hate that always online bullcrap they have.

[@NornQueenKya]

Now we just need an order of the inquisition that tries to fight tyranids with tyranids

[@nigredoooalgown6245]

Well the orks did try to tame tyranids to fight against tyranids soooo.......

[@mark_williamh1340]

Arch, thank you for continuing to grace us with such well written and wonderfully presented lore. Bravo sir.

[@frankthetank8050]

Arch, please finally do a Necromunda gangs series. To date your Necromunda video is second to none. Simply superb!

[@jbeckley6849]

Arch starts talking about Inquisituon secrets. Don't get Epsteined.

[@shawnm1902]

It's fine, he has squirrelled away a vast trove of Arch clones to replace any who have tragic hunting accidents where he bolters himself twice in the head and once in the back. It would make a certain AD mech magos very jealous in fact.

[@colinscutt5104]

@@shawnm1902 😂

[@Macaf4r]

Great video as always. I was thinking that chaos corruption sounds a lot like entropy. In science everything tends toward entropy and the only way to combat it is by put energy back into what ever system it is effecting. For example you clean your room and over time it gets messy again but if you put energy or work into cleaning a little every day you can keep your room perpetually clean or cleaner then if you didn’t. So if you do that with Chaos it would be the same . Put in work building up your mental/ spiritual bulwark and you can hold of corruption indefinitely…. Maybe lol.

[@enoughothis]

NO ONE EXPECTS THE IMPERIAL INQUISITION!

[@gorvarhadgarson5227]

Nor their Exterminatus

[@pirig-gal]

Ah, what an UNEXPECTED comment. And by "unexpected", I mean COMPLETELY EXPECTED!

[@enoughothis]

@@pirig-gal 🎵 Doofenshmirtz Chaos Undivided

[@whatsittoya4590]

Inquisition is both so cool and so uncool at the same time

[@Zakvadr1995]

I e wondered for a while now at the fact of believing strongly in something causing demons harm. Let’s take the Aquila mark for example, to any Chaos Demon, it causes a weakening effect on them. Now say, if enough troops believe in a particular commander could fight and beat anything, would they be able to defeat a greater demon based off the belief other have in them? Granted, the scale is different between a Galaxy spanning symbol and some guy, but would there still be an effect? Then the question that follows, is an Inquisitor protected from Chaos because they and their retinue believe they are immune, or are they immune because of the propaganda making people believe they are immune? In the end it feels very Orky in the way it works…

[@sadwingsraging3044]

Faith is not something that can be measured, quantified, calculated, nor collected yet it can have a profound effect. Primarch Joan of Arch

[@notinspectorgadget]

The idea that "it just works" because everyone believes it works is starting to get on my nerve in the 40k universe. It reminds me of that image macro of the old dude in robes saying "it's magic I ain't gotta explain shit."

[@tranquilthoughts7233]

The reason why the orcs believe has such strong effects on the real world is that every single orc is a latent psycher. They can't activly use their psychic abilities (not even the weirdboys have actuall full control over them), but their innate psychic talent is strong enough to impose their beliefs to a much greater extent on reality than any other race. Well except of course for active psychers.

[@Runenschuppe]

I would suggest to look into how Saints work in the 41st Millennium.... So yes. Belief influences the Warp. But usually it would have to take the amount of a mass psychosis for it to be able to affect reality and then only if the veil to the Immaterium is particularly thin. And if the horrors emerging from the Warp and the ensuing unspeakable slaughter and visible corruption do not shake their faith significantly. No inquisitor is immune to Chaos. They can resist the corruption and stave it off, but they are not immune. Any inquisitor believing themselves immune falls to Chaos far quicker, because they get blindsided. No amount of belief can shake the immaterial law that Chaos corrupts. You would have to convince every sentient creature to thoroughly believe that without doubt to change something to radical about the Warp. There's a reason Big E instead wanted to stop belief altogether instead of that approach. And yes, the whole thing feels very Orky, because in a way it is. The Old Ones designed the Orks to use that exact feature of the Warp perfectly. Far stronger than Humans ever could.

[@lordfrostwind3151]

Yes and no, the effects are very limited, just because the Thousand Sons believed their tutilaries and familiars were harmless and helpful warp creatures did absolutely nothing to stop them from being betrayed and possessed by them during the Burning of Prospero and these weren't average people these were Astartes psykers of a power level even the strongest librarians could barely achieve so their ability to influence the warp was far stronger. The Aquila has some measure of power as the Emperor's symbol and whatever relationship allows him to dominate the other Chaos Gods, that's what gets missed a lot, belief has power as the Ultramarine Sergeant demonstrated on Calth, but it's not a concious power you can tap on a whim, you have to appeal to something fundamental and subconscious. Why does a sword work better at killing daemons than an artillery shell? Because how much belief and mythology do humans have of daemons and other monsters being slain by heroes wielding swords.

[@Balevolt]

Cool Radical Inquisitors, I'm a Xeno Hybris man myself but you gotta do what you gotta do.

[@thesmilinggun-knight9646]

you just want some space elf booty admit that you are a heretic so I can empower my demon sword with your blood I mean so I can bring you to justice.

[@skepticalmagos_101]

It should be "how to use the Warp against Chaos".

[@shrubby-ov4yw]

"have you ever heard the tragic story of Inquisitor Eisenhorn the Heretic, slayer of the long thought dead Inquisitor Lord Quixos, Destroyer of a Chaos Battle Titan and survivor of a whole Imperial faith scism?"

[@chrisperko9321]

Arch, your just the best. Thank you for your effort and detail that brings this universe to life!

[@professorsponge1554]

Malice approves of this Ordo.

[@KaiserAfini]

"When working with His most holy inquisitor, please keep one thing in mind above all: be polite but never, EVER, say the magic word. The previous new hire did, now His holy inquisitor has made his flesh and bones into a lasflintlock that fires banishing shots powered by the agonized chants of his tormented soul. Welcome aboard"

[@halofly3]

From what I've read about inquisitors is that they come in two flavors. Those who just want to do their jobs and ego tripping, megalomaniacs who sabotage others over the slightest perceived offensive (especially when the inquisitor start throwing the insults first). There is no in-between.

[@siemino7444]

I'm glad you got to the point about how some inquisitors dying while waiting for a trial to end before I started drinking

[@nathanielkidd2840]

I like how Arch’s persona in that picture has a dude in the background giving him the side eye like he’s about to report Arch for heresy.

[@Shadowrunner523]

I wonder what a Xanthite thinks of "Emperor Deamons" Such as the legion of the dammed or imperial saints.

[@lordfrostwind3151]

It could be a really cool story of a group of extremely Radical Inquisitors trying to create their own version of Daemons of the Emperor.

[@edwardbryan9501]

I find it ironic that the Inquisition's Puritans indirectly contributes to the powers of Chaos. Since Chaos is a reflection of feelings, any and all feelings from Puritans strongly empowers the Chaos gods no matter the situations or means. Such as a Puritan Inquisitor prideful of torturing their "captives" for information of Slaanesh cultists, which in turn the sense of pride empowers Slaanesh. Even envy or jealousy of other Inquisitors encourages rage or hatred, then that empowers Khorne. Unchecked searches for thirsts of knowledge empowers Tzeentch. Feeling ill, or even going to the restroom, empowers Nurgle. So no matter what faith they have, Puritans ironically contribute strong feelings, indirectly empowering Chaos.

[@tornesaurio]

Hey Arch, since you like the more obscure lore tidbits, how about a lore video on the *Ordo Hydra* ?

[@thegeckomano8725]

Would love to see a series of short videos on famous inquisitors!

[@MrAM4D3U5]

I saw a video by someone else and all the comments were people saying “thank you for sounding normal and having a regular cadence of speech, unlike most 40k KZbinrs” and I didn’t know what they meant. Now I see their point

[@Czar_Loko]

Arch, you should make a video on weather the alpha legion is still potentially loyal or not. I don’t think there’s many videos on the topic of the sneaky bastards.

[@alpharius2omegaboogaloo384]

It’s truly a travesty.

[@cnlbenmc]

41:16 good example is from the Grey Knights Novel but that's technically worse; a Chaos Infiltrator in the Inquisition that fell before becoming an Inquisitor.

[@drfate7863]

Using chaos against chaos DOES work. This is actually what the Necron pylons did. They turned the energies of chaos against itself, causing it to dissipate and die.

[@orrorsaness5942]

Lol 😆

[@MultiSpoofa]

Arch, you should do a video on the Xenarites, which is the Mechanicus equivalent to the Xanthites

[@raver377]

now im not going to take credit for bringing this idea up like 2(?) months ago... but i am taking full credit for it :P

[@GUMMRUCHK]

Trying to use Chaos to defeat Chaos is like trying to use the one ring to defeat Sauron. It's a trap.

[@Gotten37]

"After All, Why Not? Why Shouldn't I Keep It?" - Xanthite Inquisitor after finding Chaos artifact...

[@Usammityduzntafraidofanythin]

The problem I've always had with Warhammer 40k lore, is that the rule of cool has long gotten in the way of actual story telling consistency. "Only the silent sisters can deal with chaos psykers! Oh wait, also the gray knights. Oh wait, also Xanthites! There's the dark gods of chaos! But also, I'm not going to write about them, because I'm a writing attention whore and want to do my own thing. So Abaddon is the most important plot element who affects the whole dang galaxy. Oh wait, tyranids are strongest. Oh wait, oh wait, oh wait..."

[@orrorsaness5942]

Chaos has become the second strongest in the Milky Way… for now. The Tyranids are gathering and rising and so are the Necrons. Dark times are coming for humanity.

[@Romuls753]

13:04 this is where the Inquisitor is wrong, astropaths and navigators use the Warp, not Chaos. The Warp can exist without Chaos, and did before the War in the the Heavens. It was all the fuckery and death between the Old Ones, the Necrons, rhe Eldar, and the Orks that created Chaos

[@informationyes]

They dont even know about that far in the past though so to them the warp has allways been a literal hell filled with deamons so no inquisiter would make that objection

[@omegawilliam95s36]

@@informationyes That’s kinda the point. Nobody really knows how the Warp was back then, and so the Inquisitor’s mistake is to conclude that everything warp related is all tied to Chaos, and that there’s the most important part of the thought process. I heard the Psychers of the Space Wolves believe their power comes from nature and things like that, and so they have a much better resistance to dark influence, this is what I believe would be the more safer ways of using Chaos against itself, but requires very specific minds to have it work on the scale required to stand a chance. Like how the Imperial Cult has artifacts that have actual power, if every single individual person in the Imperium had the unshakable belief that psychic power is derived from the Emperor and him alone, not just a halfhearted one, it could be enough to at least severely weaken the other Chaos Gods and lessen their influence. But that’s just guesswork on my part.

[@Isador11]

@@omegawilliam95s36 that's what the Eldar did before they startet making slaanesh. If enough mental energy goes into a belief the stronger its form in the warp becomes. You would need a ridiculous amount of people tho to get that result with humans since their quality is much lower then Eldar in terms of belief. Also there has to be absolute belief like with the orks, no doubts allowed

[@mikedigregorio1901]

Always a good day when Arch posts a lore video

[@thrall6647]

Greetings! Preiss algorithm gods! Preiss lore lord Arch!

[@lysytoszef]

Ah yes, the Inquisitors. The single greatest danger to the Imperium. Almost as guilty as Lorgar.

[@benrunsacross2935]

Ordo hubris, or the Emperor’s holders of beer

[@theblazingcrusader6322]

The funny thing about the Xanaithe idealism is that the first guy to do that, ended up making the very first hellforge named Xana II

[@Fulgrim2]

Ah yes, the faction that’s just begging for trouble.

[@Furzkampfbomber]

So, all of them?

[@eichler721]

Chaos can corrupt at an point it just takes that opening for them to get through and you lacking the willpower to deny it. From then on that tiny bit of corruption slowly grows till you don't even see what you are doing is wrong.

[@s2ttech]

I would love to see an in depth look in the houses of Necromunda as it seems to be the only GW IP that the lore has actually improved on in the last decade.

[@gorvarhadgarson5227]

Careful Arch, I hear an Commisar cocking his bolter as you read this Intel to us.

[@paladinebahamut]

It's Commissar Svetlana... "STEP ON ME MOMMY!"

[@colmcorbec7031]

Wohooo! Here we go! Yes yes

[@rolay504]

First and only!!

[@codyopperman5930]

Arch, you forgot the moth venom of the Untill for Ibram Gaunt. Ezsrah Ap Niht used the medication level of venom to cure Murtan Feygor's infected voice box. An infection that came from the chaos forces landing on Gareon.

[@747GhostDogg]

Then along came the reclaimers chapter in the aftermath

[@mrpoison8770]

Blood for the blood ops, oh no I see a bolter pistol shit.

[@JohnTrustworthy]

>Forcing human laws onto the warp is like teaching fish to fly. A perfect analogy because fish that fly exist. Hell, as a matter of fact they were the first creatures on Earth to go on dry land. And this makes you wonder, what would have been the culminating point of the Imperium had it not fallen?

[@angelsofblood9879]

I would not put it past the inqusitors to "hurrump" about chaos, and then turn around and adapt chaos artifacts into their armory. Arch brings up a great point about the grey knights, and they are only so many "neutral" ways to get an understanding of the proper script and binding language without using chaos itself.

[@keithharris5196]

I accidently flicked over to the grey night video and didn't notice until the end...

[@MrAnihillator]

3 of them, you say? Hm, hm... At the same time you say? Hm, hm... And she survived! Oh my...

[@tinfoilhat3268]

A captive daemon host as an attack dog is a wicked idea

[@TheGosgosh]

Here, lord inquisitor! I found eisenhorn!

[@alcohol-freebeer3642]

I can't wait for the Ordo Draigo video in this series, as I'm still waiting to find out what kind of ham will be provided.

[@lordvarrax5060]

Xanthite: “I used the Chaos... to destroy the Chaos”

[@mrxudune1815]

My most favourite radical faction

[@HalIOfFamer]

So xnanthites are just a loophole to introduce malice back into the lore and have shitloads of inquisitors defect so he has an immediate powerbase in the galaxy.

[@bradymenting5120]

anyone else imagine an Inquisitorial Denunciation to be like an epic rap battle to the death? that would certainly liven up the proceedings.

[@michelveilleux2075]

This is the "I'm not saying we should fight Chaos with Chaos, no no no. But wouldn't it be cool if we could?" Comment he made, I'm sure of it. 👌

[@alarsonious2071]

I will remind you of the relictors ... Such miracles are doomed to die. Painfully.

[@jacobwilbers9852]

This made me think of a new form of heresy big e was a demonhost being ran by malcador now being held in check by the golden throne

[@katathoombs]

[libationes deis algorithmi]

[@mikoajpietrych6168]

Chaos is a ladder

[@dragonofelder5011]

"3 Daemonhosts! At the same time!" Saucy

[@weatherman667]

Chaos seems to follow the Judeo-Christian concept of Choice. Basically the Devil whispering into your ear. The longer he does it, the higher chance you'll eventually give into it, but you can still choose to outright refuse it.

[@wartooth88]

Slaahneshi tickle daemons

[@blackhawkdown342]

Blessed is the lore master for he is the light in the darkness(and he reads the books that i would never have the time to)

[@TheAlterspark]

The spiderman "you" meme was never more appropriate than when discussing these two lol

[@EnderElohim]

sooo any justice for Zaranchek Xanthus happen? Sound like burning a servant of Emperor for serving Emperor is also heretical.

[@Ilbram_Harker]

Ooooh, can’t wait for Oblationists all the way to Phaenonites.

[@Azrael1st]

“Nobody expects the imperial inquisition”

[@inquisitorthomasdefinitely536]

No they don’t son of caliban