The Gospel of Judas Examined

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This is an in-depth look into what the gospel of Judas is and when it was written.
Sources:
The Lost Gospel of Judas - Stanley Porter & Gordon Heath
The Lost Gospel of Judas Iscariot - Bart Ehrman
Craig Evans - Fabricating Jesus
John P. Meier - A Marginal Jew
Darrell Bock and Dan Wallace - Dethroning Jesus
St. Irenaeus - Against Heresies
Cyril of Jerusalem - Catechesis Lecture
Richard Bauckham - Jesus and the Eyewitnesses
Nicholas Perrin - Thomas: The Fifth Gospel?

[@mythologicalbeast5926]

So is the Gospel of Judas essentially the 2nd - 3rd century equivalent of “edgy” fan fiction?

[@ancyjoseph2822]

LOL

[@marvalice3455]

Some scholars actually think this because some of the gnostic elements on the book border on parady and could be seen as satirical

[@aidan-ator7844]

@Watcher honestly why don't you actually leave if all you can do is insult. It doesn't make the Bible any less accurate. The Bible is quite clearly one of the most historically accurate books in history. Any insult you give won't change that.

[@sandyscuba6101]

It seems so. Greeks loved mythology.. Many stories they have.. With the Greek gods.

[@inukithesavage828]

@Watcher You should watch the series that Inspiring Philosophy did on The Bible. You'd be shocked how accurate the Bible is.

[@FreeRadical7118]

It usually leaves me feeling somewhat sad that men work so hard to discredit the Living God, made manifest in Christ Jesus. This belligerent denial has continued since the 2nd Temple Jews, and I think it takes far less effort to let Christ define Himself. John 18:20 Jesus answered him, *"I have spoken openly to the world; I always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where all the Jews come together; and I spoke nothing in secret."*

[@WingedBagels]

Friend, you have been deluded. I am the true christ and you have lost your faith in me. Your churches lie to you about me. Why do you shun and reject me? I am the life, the earth, and the salvation. To question me is to question reality and to deny me is to deny reality. Relinquish your false beliefs and practices lest they cast you down to the inferno.

[@prydeow9101]

@@WingedBagels Tell em Lord

[@mayj257]

Studying the bible is what most people should do, not just interpret what they want to believe it says. Don't drink the coolaid

[@j.larustaourillfatheraweri6411]

Betsy Ross people don't tô discredit God...they only search for truth...it speaks of anti christ in Gods form and could even be thought to be Jesus....,,think about that for a minute

[@JewessChrstnMystic]

@@j.larustaourillfatheraweri6411 if christ was the first one to be called the christ then how could antichrist be christ unless a christ had to first exist to begin with.. think about THAT, in order for their to be an antichrist, the christ had to first come. I mean come on, this is just common sense.

[@Michael_Oliver_]

To save someone from watching the video, the "gospel of Judas" is just a pagan document. It wasn't written by Judas, and It misrepresents Jesus, The Father, and The Holy Spirit.

[@logia7]

and talks about some crazy aeons and other heavenly realms, other god's in the heavenly realms, creators.

[@billdecompsa4705]

And people should still watch the video to understand WHY it is pagan.

[@eugengolubic2186]

Inspiring Philosophy, I'm grateful for your videos and your channel has helped me a lot. You show a great effort in your work and use various sources. I just want to say thank you and may God bless you!

[@eugengolubic2186]

@Abraham Girt You are right. I wrote the comment on my phone and it changed accidentally. I will correct it.

[@maryah8642]

The Gospel of Judas is not Scripture. The apostle Paul tells us to beware of false doctrines of devils in Colossians 2:8, he warns: "Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ."

[@steliosmitr8245]

Seems like Paul disliked any philosophy that wasnt his and wanted everyone to not like other philosophies too

[@francesconesi7666]

@@steliosmitr8245 No, he only wanted the First Communities not to pay attention to anti-Chistian movements, but to ignore them.

[@UnratedAwesomeness]

The problem with citing passages like this is that the Gnostics could cite similar passages back to you. It doesn’t say what is or isn’t truely Christian or not Christian.

[@Magic818100]

All the books are scriptures you can always learn from them. Look at the four Gospels they came later on after the Epistles were written by Paul. This is white in the writing of Paul you never see him say words that Jesus said but he talked about Jesus but not about what he said because when he wrote the epistle to four Gospels did not exist yet. So when Paul said about false scriptures. Matthew Mark Luke and John did not exist so who knows what he was talking about

[@VirginMostPowerfull]

@Blue Angel That's ridiculous, he was expounding on the message of Jesus in all his epistles, his theology is obvious and perfectly fits with the Gospels. He also uses creeds pre-dating him. Furthermore St. Luke also wrote Acts of the Apostles wherein we find good information on how the Church developed after Christ ascended and also St. Paul's conversion and participation in the life of the Church. There is also the Didache dating from 70AD which gives us some information. Such irrational and mad skepticism, my God, throw out Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Napoleon, etc. Double standard.

[@orthodoxdefender7492]

Great job! And the Napoleon analogy was cool!

[@robertdelrosario139]

Hi! Could you do one about the Deutero-canonical books of the Old Testament? I'm Catholic so we read the Septuagint Bible. I would just like your analysis of it and whether or not it is justifiable to remove them or keep them in the biblical canon. Thank you!

[@lorefox201]

Rabbis removed them from their masoretic canon when they decided to formalize it around 1000 aD. The version of the books we have in the Septuagint in common with the masoretic text is clearly older when analized anyway. If as a Christian you think you should be bound to the opinion of medieval Jewish Rabbis then it was justified. I for one I have nothing against them but I'd rather listen to the fathers of the church.

[@nodiet8660]

Hi, do you believe in Jesus alone?

[@chrisgabele75]

It is insane that many atheists believed this gospel as cannon.

[@marcoramirez313]

They don’t have discernment:/

[@nutyyyy]

Its just one of many stories of Jesus. Looking at it from a purely objective point of view its to be expected. You get all sorts of versions and interpretations of history and many other religions have widely divergent sects and beliefs. I just find it odd that people who don't believe in God in the first place use biblical texts to try and discredit stuff they don't believe in anyway. I couldn't care less about it, it's just interesting to see what people have believed throughout the existence of humanity. Humans have never been within religion and if believing in the teachings of Jesus whatever they truly were makes people happy or can help them then I see no reason to go against it.

[@istanknowledgereason1561]

as an atheist I have to admit it's more interesting than many passages of the new testament and really explains *a lot* of god's actions in the old testament. If I were to her about *"The Gospel of Judas"* when I was 12 or 13, I 75% think I'd still be religious. No lie😂😂

[@sentjojo]

@Rafael Acosta Apostolic Tradition

[@zotharr]

This sound contradictory, how can you be an atheist and believe in Jesus?

[@yuniethethird1911]

So basically they were Judas fanboys jk but really they're trying to justify Judas betrayal wow Galatians 1:8-9 csb 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, a curse be on him! 9 As we have said before, I now say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, a curse be on him

[@WingedBagels]

Someone is saying mean things about me. If you listen to it, you will be cursed so don't listen to it.

[@proverbs3829]

@@WingedBagelsBecause those are not merely mean things but it could sadly stake our salvation., that too for eternity.... No one knows who wrote it(Gospel of Judas) But whosoever wrote it one thing is crystal clear that he/she was a true fan of JUDAS and eagerly wanted to defend him for his betrayal... 👍👍👍👍👍

[@david_kazashi]

3:16. It is interesting how gnostic thought is very similar to that of Adam and Eve when took the fruit from the tree of "knowledge" of good and evil. Ascension to some God-like state of being by obtaining knowledge.

[@dominikdurkovsky8318]

Except for the fact that knowledge was not attained from that fruit. It seems like the fruit of knowledge of good and evil is basically the experience of it. Like when a dad tells his son not to do drugs because they're bad, and the son believes it. But maybe the son says to himself, how can I know that it's bad unless I try them. And just with that decision he ruins his life and his relationship. The fruit of "knowledge" was more akin to the fruit of prideful idiocy where someone says "you have never done me harm, you always guide me Well, but I think I know better"

[@angbatangmakatalyrica7154]

Judas was commiting suicide and is dead when Jesus was crossified. How did he write the book?

[@WingedBagels]

With his hand

[@JewessChrstnMystic]

@@WingedBagels man why are you roasting so hard 😂 I've seen your comments throughout this thread and you are going HARD in the paint man. Calm down.. I get your sense of humor, but come on.. cool down a bit 😂

[@saiffirasmhmut4401]

katlin jones i mean he’s not wrong

[@nutyyyy]

None of the disciples wrote any of the gospels. It wasn't claimed as such until later. The Gospels were written by literate Greek speakers across the Eastern empire. Either through eye witness testimony in some cases or oral tradition. Hence you get some differences in recording. I'm not Christian but I don't think its a big deal. Ask multiple different people to recall the life and teachings of a famous man and they may well given different accounts but ultimately come to very similar conclusions or recollections even if they aren't entirely consistent. Then you might get very different interpretations based on someone with pretty different ideas that doesn't really agree with the rest giving their version which then gets changed over time. Ultimately I don't think it should be so huge a deal to Christians or non-Christians alike. There is more than enough that is consistent to understand Jesus and some contradictions shouldn't be a huge deal. I'm not even religious personally but I think people who try and downplay a religion by pointing out differences and inconsistencies are largely nitpicking and missing the whole point.

[@nilceoliveira9712]

​@@nutyyyy see his other videos about the new testament

[@zynxmynx69]

“ Against Heresies can be dated to sometime between A.D. 174 and A.D. 189 A.D., and Irenaeus died in A.D. 202. “ = “ Gospel of Judas = Radio carbon dated between A.D. 220 and A.D. 340. “

[@marinhaalternativa3829]

Copies existed, of course.

[@nutyyyy]

This wouldn't be an original.

[@DefenderOfChrist_]

@@marinhaalternativa3829The Gospel of Judas is from 170 AD

[@nzsl368]

QUR'AN & BOOK OF MORMON are "modern day" gospel of judas. is this statement true??

[@robk2167]

With one correction - Quran is not modern as this blasphemous false teaching was created 1400 years ago.

[@nzsl368]

@Non-Ugandan Knuckles qur'an is the gospel spread about by archangel gabriel. every muslim should know about this narrative. was it really the archangel gabriel? or a "counterfeit" archangel gabriel (a "fallen angel" masquerading as archangel gabriel)? how about the book of mormon believed to have come from prophet or angel moroni. was moroni a real heavenly angel? a "counterfeit" angel (a "fallen angel" masquerading as a "heavenly angel")?

[@WingedBagels]

I believe it because the church told me to

[@mayj257]

@@robk2167 rd ' 3rd' century means more than 1700 years ago.

[@KingTrayTovine]

The Question is more important then the Answer

[@hector5851]

This sounds like Dragon Ball and the kaiosama hierarchy.

[@maxalaintwo3578]

Dragon Ball is ballin

[@herc358]

Gnosticism was one of the first major heresies out of the 1st century. So much so the apostles addressed these topics in their epistles. That is why these books were never canonized by the Catholic Church. They are indeed heretical.

[@PaintedHoundie]

Irenaeus is a famous early church father mostly known for the fact that he called out, condemned or deconstructed a lot of these heretical beliefs in early christianity, in his work, Against Heresies. In fact i think before these scriptures were discovered, most of the information we had about whether these stories were actually written, were from Irenaeus arguing against them, if i remember correctly.

[@WingedBagels]

I believe it's bad because the church told me it's bad

[@SamAdamsGhost]

@@WingedBagels it's not hard to see why it's heretical.

[@Gabe-lj9fo]

@@SamAdamsGhostYes it is lol

[@SamAdamsGhost]

@@Gabe-lj9fo have you read any of the Gnostic texts?

[@brimstone6665]

I always wondered about this book, and listening to this felt like someone explain a forgery based on the handwriting. Very well done

[@aryanahampton]

Originally saw a video on this on an atheist channel. They were using it as a way to disprove Christian theology by saying it was all over the place. He failed to inform people when it was written who it was written by and that it had zero connection to the canonical gospels. It was sad to see how many people in the comments were led astray too. It’s crazy that atheists have to literally lie to get their points across sometimes.

[@thegreatguldo9956]

What Is this channel gnostic information..?

[@The_name105]

I'm glad you made this video and explained things. I've been thinking about and reading the gospel of judas and i knew it was false but part of me still wished it to be true. I looked on youtube and i found this video also i only started reading it two days ago , bur now i know it is false.

[@Archangel657]

Great video IP Would like a follow up video to the Teleological Argument. Seems a lot of atheists are in denial of tje complexity of the universe, and that the universe had a beginning.

[@belaireguy4117]

Emery > Why is this a great video as I am actually surprised any time was given it? As far as I am concerned, anything related to the Bible meaning or bringing some grand truth to it is a waste of time. "Would like a follow up video to the Teleological Argument." > An argument that has been refuted a countless number of times and if the universe is chaotic for a moment, which it is, the argument is rendered moot. "Seems a lot of atheists are in denial of tje complexity of the universe" > It is complex but far from perfect, much of the time chiming in as unfair and uncaring, so I do not deny its complexity, its beautiful with the chaos just being a complement. "and that the universe had a beginning." > Why is knowing how important? It is not to me, life is a gift, I just don't know who or what to thank for it and absolutely fine with it. How about you, what thoughts on these topics do you own? Have a great evening.

[@Archangel657]

@@belaireguy4117 "Why is this a great video as I am actually surprised any time was given it?" Because its my opinion that IP did a great job in explaining it, and giving evidence for why it wasn't included in the main Gospels. If you have anything that refutes the claims he makes, as we as refutations of the evidence ge presented, then show it. "As far as I am concerned, anything related to the Bible meaning or bringing some grand truth to it is a waste of time." Then why are you here? "An argument that has been refuted a countless number of times and if the universe is chaotic for a moment, which it is, the argument is rendered moot." Which is why I asked for a follow up to see what IP has to say about such claims. "It is complex but far from perfect, much of the time chiming in as unfair and uncaring, so I do not deny its complexity, its beautiful with the chaos just being a complement." I never claimed that the universe was perfect. "Why is knowing how important?" So we can understand how or why something occured. Thats why we have science. "It is not to me, life is a gift, I just don't know who or what to thank for it and absolutely fine with it. How about you, what thoughts on these topics do you own?" You can thank God, or you can thank your parents for having you without your consent.

[@dmx7329]

+Balairguy411 most of the refutationse of the telelogical argument got debunked by IP later on the fine tuning argument dosent need to show the universe is perfect just that some parts of the universe are very improbable to ever accure god never intended to make the universe perfect and that was actually even stated in the bible since the fall everything wasnt anymore perfect and fell in chaos but we still see some evidence of that perfect world in some parts of the universe and it's unlikliness

[@felinaoreite]

Jesus the Yogi...yeah, that's the next video up. ❤love your work IP

[@mackdmara]

How many of you have the laughing Jesus picture in your home without knowing its original context? I wonder if the gnostics have really gone the way of the dodo.

[@mayj257]

hate when Jesus laughs at us...lol

[@findmeacrosstheroom]

Gnosticism is currently going through a massive revival. Many channels exist dedicated to Gnostic messages.

[@mackdmara]

@@findmeacrosstheroom Like Wiccan beliefs, it isn't exactly the same thing. Much of the real teachings were held by upper level initiates, and we don't have them anymore. That said, yes. Lots of interest is surfacing. Ideas don't really die, do they?

[@findmeacrosstheroom]

@@mackdmara Don't be so sure. I'd say Gnostics are more real than Christians at the moment. Look up guys like Perpetual Pleasurist and The Sanity Machine. It's a thriving and growing community, and they're very serious.

[@tarajoyce3598]

Love how you describe the thinking of the time so there is context.

[@duetopersonalreasonsaaaaaa]

I'm gonna die over how fascinating this is!!! Ugh, why can't I just learn about and study this all day? No job, no responsibilities, just my adhd's hyperfixations :)

[@VectorSpector385]

I know I’m going out on a limb here, buuuuutttttt, Saklas could be equal to idea of Santa Claus? Santa brings the physical gifts we want, similar to Saklas, as he is the God of physical world? Idea kinda just popped up.

[@gathonimwangi5949]

Makes sense...santa also can be an anagram for satan.

[@MarkRuslinzski]

I thought the same thing lol

[@daynehaworth9258]

Gnosticism and the Book of Judas sounds like modern day New Age beliefs

[@CourtesyPhone]

Nothing about the newage is "new"

[@jefflavere8213]

The hindus called it moksha. Escaping the cycle of life and death and acsending into the spiritual reality. Leaving the physical.

[@yehetgalaxy1441]

Yeah, watching this video, I can’t help but think how similar some aspects are to Dharmic religions.

[@bertborden3827]

Are you going to do a video on the Gospel of barnabas?

[@jeshaunharrell8288]

Do you believe mindfulness meditation is sinful? There are neurological benefits from it. You can look into that.

[@friedchicken8440]

Prayer is around the same as meditation, with same benefits iirc. Do that instead

[@hunivan7672]

Mindfulness meditation is sinful because it's a secularized and repackaged spiritual practice that is being sold to naive fools for profit. Meditation is a very ancient spiritual practice, and there are christian meditations, always have been. Just dump mindfullness meditation into the trashcan where it belongs and do proper spiritual meditation with a spiritual director. I've been practicing Vipassana (which is basically the technique that vulture like Sam Harris rip off and present and if it was a "scientific" novelty) for 5 years now. It's an aboslutely great method, but stop calling in Mindfulness.

[@jonathandoe1367]

@@hunivan7672 What makes the word "mindfulness" sinful? I'm legitimately out-of-the-loop here. I've heard Sadhguru use the term, if I recall correctly, and he's pretty traditional. Is there a specific connection to New Age spiritualism I'm not aware of? Thanks in advance.

[@jenniferlindsey2015]

Well, if your purpose was to give us food for thought, congratulations. I’m becoming VERY thoughtful after finding out about this book.

[@armeniagevorgyan1777]

The so-called Gospel of Judas was written by a religious cult called the Gnostics, 150 years after the time of Christ’s ministry on earth. The name “Gnostic” comes from the Greek word “gnosis,” which means “knowledge.” The Gnostics believed that they had knowledge that no one else had, and that the way to be saved was to get this knowledge, and progress into the world of the spirit. In 180 A.D. Irenaeus, a Christian who defended the truth about Jesus, mentioned that some people were reading The Gospel of Judas in his book, Against Heresies. And Irenaeus said that The Gospel of Judas is really a book filled with heretical false teachings. The Gospel of Judas says that Judas wasn’t really a bad man. It says that Judas was the greatest disciple of Jesus, who actually did something very good when he handed Jesus over to be killed. As Dr. Marvin Meyer, one of the translators of the document, wrote, “The Judas Iscariot of the Gospel of Judas is the betrayer of Jesus, but he is simultaneously the hero of the gospel” (ibid., p. 3). This book truly is “Christianity turned on its head” (the title of a chapter in the book, presenting commentary by Dr. Bart D. Ehrman; ibid., p. 77). “This gospel has a completely different understanding of God, the world, Christ, salvation, human existence…” (Ehrman, ibid., p. 80). According to this false Gospel, Jesus asked Judas to betray Him so He could be free from human flesh and enter the realm of “pure spirit.” In this book of deception and error, Jesus supposedly says to Judas, “You will exceed all of them [the other disciples]. For you will sacrifice the man [my body] that clothes me [my spirit]” (ibid., p. 43). “For Jesus in The Gospel of Judas, death is no tragedy, nor is it a necessary evil to bring about the forgiveness of sins” (Meyer, introductory notes; ibid., p. 4). Ladies and gentlemen, that book is a lie from the Devil! It says that Jesus didn’t die in order to pay for your sins - but only to get rid of His body and become a spirit - and that He didn’t physically rise from the dead! As Dr. Ehrman comments, in the false Gospel of Judas, There will be no resurrection. This is perhaps the key point of all. Jesus will not be raised from the dead in this book. Why would he be? The entire point of salvation is to escape this material world…a resurrection of the body is the very last thing that Jesus, or any of his true followers, would want [according to that false Gospel of Judas] (ibid., page 110). To borrow a few words from Dr. A. W. Tozer, “I call it heresy!” The Gospel of Judas isn’t the Gospel at all! It is what the Bible calls “another gospel” - a false teaching about salvation, which denies the true meaning of Jesus’ death and resurrection. Why are so many people interested in The Gospel of Judas today? Why, for the same reason that so many people were interested back in the second century - the book tells people what they want to hear! As the Apostle Paul wrote to the Galatians, “I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel. Which is not another [it really isn’t the gospel; in fact there isn’t any other gospel]; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ” (Galatians 1:6-7). Is there another Gospel? Not in truth - that’s why Paul says “which is not another” in Galatians 1:7. There really isn’t any other gospel! The Gospel of Judas is a forgery written late in the second century! Paul explained the real Gospel when he wrote to the Corinthians, “Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel…that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures” (I Corinthians 15:1, 3-4). That is the only real Gospel! That is the only way to be saved! Jesus, who died and rose from the dead, is the only way to go to Heaven. All other world religions, all other systems of belief, lead to Hell! That’s why the Apostle Paul wrote, “If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed” (Galatians 1:9). Accursed! The Greek word translated “accursed” in the King James Bible is “anathema” - the strongest possible condemnation. Christians are told to reject any so-called “gospel” which does not present salvation through the Bloody death of Jesus and His glorious physical resurrection! You may say, “What does the false Gospel of Judas have to do with me? Why are you talking about it?” I say to you that its errors are just the same errors that unconverted people throughout all the centuries of history have believed and followed in their lives. They are the same lies that are so often believed today. I will give you four of these lies. I. First, the lie that salvation comes by learning. The so-called Gospel of Judas is a Gnostic book, not written by Judas, but forged by the Gnostic heretics. The word “Gnostic” comes from the Greek word “gnosis,” which means “knowledge.” These Gnostic heretics believed that salvation doesn’t come by the Bloody death and the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ, but instead through a process of learning - of receiving some sort of secret knowledge. That’s why the introduction to the English translation of the Gospel of Judas says,

[@WingedBagels]

It would make sense that Yahweh hates knowledge. Maybe he's just insecure about his own intelligence. Or maybe all of the bible is wrong about the true Yahweh, the bringer of life and such.

[@mayj257]

Ahh, just because you wrote so much does not mean you know more. In ALLthe books, before we even found and interpreted the book of Judas, we see Jesus asking Judas to turn him in. He wanted to fulfill the prophesy. Christianity is part Gnostic , this is why we celebrate the death of Jesus at Easter . The release of his soul to heaven. BTW ALL of the books and scrolls were written hundreds of years after ALL the apostles were dead and gone

[@JewessChrstnMystic]

@@mayj257 no they weren't, the copies of them were. Matthew's gospel was even known to have been written in Hebrew or aramaic. Just research it. For there to be copies and origional had to exist, the peigionals just got old and basically fell apart, that doesnt mean that texts written earlier weren't circulating.

[@dominikdurkovsky8318]

​@@WingedBagels He really doesn't. Just read the book of sirach, proverbs, etc. The fruit of knowledge wasn't a fruit of Actual knowledge, but more akin to relying on only your own knowledge, which leads only to dead ends. The so called fruit of knowing good and evil seems more like when a dad tells his son not to do drugs because they're bad. But the son tells himself, "how can I know they're bed unless I have the knowledge of it by experiencing them ? Thus I will try them" after making this decision, he does so and thus he devastates himself and his relationship with his dad, whom he could have trusted. The whole point of the fruit of knowledge was that it really wasn't knowledge, but pride.

[@mingthan7028]

Napoleon starts talking about submarine and missiles 😂😂😂😂

[@Kuudere-Kun]

Okay, I want to know the exact quote alleging "Homosexual acts" was mentioned in this but it didn't come up when I previously researching such referenced in Apocryphal texts. Is it just the word Asrenkoites?

[@nunnayuhbitness6708]

The Judas writing is so stupid that only the devil could have inspired it.

[@WingedBagels]

Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

[@mayj257]

@Pixi Alfonso stated that Nunna acknowledged the devil when she stated 'only the devil could have inspired it'.

[@DefenderOfChrist_]

@@WingedBagelsa book from the Late-2nd Century is true?🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@amymeyers9682]

Thanks for opening my eyes to the origin of this so-called gospel. Are all of the apocryphal texts also from the Gnostics? I have been interested in seeing what they say, but only if they are from more trusted sources. There could be many reasons why they weren’t included as canon but it doesn’t necessarily mean they aren’t truthful. I would also like to know your opinion on why the gospels consider Judas to have been possessed by Satan and condemned for ‘betraying’ Jesus. In my thoughts, I feel that Judas was part of God’s plan because someone had to turn him over for death so he could die for our sins and be resurrected. How else would Jesus have been able to save us?

[@wulfd2592]

I think God knew what was going to happen and let it happen.

[@wulfd2592]

Maybe one way or another Jesus was still dying for us .

[@cassandraseven3478]

Bertrand Comparet said that Judas was the only Jew of the 12. The others were Israelites.

[@Migler1]

@@cassandraseven3478 I’m unsure what your point is, but other disciples were definitely considered Jews. We see that for example in Galatians, where Paul explicitly calls Peter a Jew. ”But when I saw that their conduct was not in step with the truth of the gospel, I said to Cephas before them all, “If you, though a Jew, live like a Gentile and not like a Jew, how can you force the Gentiles to live like Jews?”” ‭‭Galatians‬ ‭2‬:‭14‬

[@DLAbaoaqu]

My loyalties lie only with Christendom. As such, I have reservations about both sides of the culture war.

[@DS-ll5fn]

Outcast Abaoaqu what do you mean by culture war?

[@Jay-iu4st]

I know the meaning of your profile picture, stay strong my brother 🙏🏽👑

[@WingedBagels]

Whose Christendom?

[@aldairt4899]

Love that your doing these videos on the Pseudepigrapha! Please keep going with these! :)

[@stayinawesum]

Hello IP, Im a Christian that means i believe in God but im not sure how can i trust God fully, i mean Bible describes God is unpredictable (i guess) and out of our understanding so we can only understand him in a very very limited way. Its like the problem when we say what it is like to be like a cat or what a cat is thinking, i mean God can read everybody's mind and know whats in our hearts but we cant, we are not as powerful as Him or all knowing, and its not a problem for me, the problem is how can i trust him if i dont understand or know him fully, its just not fair. And finally let me make myself very clear im not saying that God is hinding any important thing from us or something but basically im saying i cant know that. And im also aware that im able to understand all this because God has given me this ability to think about this kind of stuff but it seems to me its unfalse-able or untestable. And its very important to me because i love my Heavenly Father, and it will break my heart if He is not like how He tells us He is. I understand its a very difficult question but thank you for reading my question. So to sum up because of our limits as humans (which i have no problems with) we cant fully understand/know God, therefore we cant TRUST Him (again not saying He is hiding something from us but what im saying is i CANT KNOW)

[@stayinawesum]

@@mhmeekk3003 No u didnt understood what my question was, it is this: because of our limits as humans (which i have no problems with) we cant fully understand/know God, therefore we cant TRUST Him (again not saying He is hiding something from us but what im saying is i CANT KNOW)

[@vegeta171]

Cowboy Samurai, no one can comprehend God fully. In order to know him fully we ourselves will have to be God, which will be contradicton. I think what I'll say is if you or anyone abides in God, to them He reveals himself more to them. God had this relationship with us it was we humans who severed that relationship. But still God is good enough to reveal himself and his love to those who seek him.

[@Eman-wj8gq]

I've heard that the Old Testament is actually Hellenistic. Which would counter the ending message of this video would it not?

[@scottbaldridge165]

I would go and visit Marvin Meyer at his office at Chapman college! He was also a member at my presbyterian church! Actually h his office had large posters of early Greek text!!!

[@edvardzv5660]

Reading the books of the New Testament, we probably asked ourselves more than once: *"Why 2000 years we do not see those miracles that accompanied the Сhurch of Christ in the I century, as described in the New Testament?"* Why do the so-called preachers of Christ have to prove that Jesus really existed and atheists boldly deny the historicity or divine origin of Christ? Maybe because the Сhurch of Christ has not existed for 2000 years? The Сhurch does not exist in the form in which it is presented in the books of the New Testament, but there are Catholic, Orthodox, Protestant and other christian sects claiming to be the place of the Church, but they not have the only thing that distinguishes the divine from the human and is characteristic of just the Сhurch of Christ -the reinforcement of the word with signs, that is, miracles (Mark 16:15-20). Therefore, some researchers doubt the historicity of Christ, and some of them are not opposed to declaring him a an ordinary philosopher, teacher. But even if Jesus were an ordinary philosopher, his disciples would be ordinary followers of Jesus. And they would not dare to write about the miracles that not only Jesus, but also his disciples, could perform. In this world, the great fertility of atheism can be explained by the fact that there is no main opponent of critics of the Bible - the Church. If there were the Church in our time as described by the authors of the New Testament books, where miracles are performed, the sick are healed, where prophesied, and the dead are raised, no one would doubt the historicity of Christ. Then there would be the same controversy throughout the world as in the first century - Jesus the Son of God or the false prophet who seduces the world by miracles. As a result, we can say that the emergence and development of christian sects and atheism was the result of the fact that over the 2000 years the Сhurch of Christ did not exist. Find *"The Mystery about the Church of Christ"* video on KZbin. The video reveals the prophecy of the disappearance and reappearance of the Church of Christ before the End of the World. Watching this video will give hope to all who sincerely seek God and will interest those who are not too lazy to think freely. Click on my name to watch the video (The video is in Russian, but English subtitles are included).

[@giorgosgiorgos6702]

Can you do a video about Noah's ark? Should Christians accept this story literally or metaphorically?

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

I'm planning on it in 2019

[@parktol02]

Hey IP! Someone told me Jesus was a mishmash of Odin, Buddha, and mithra. I know the buddha and mithras part is b.s., but Odin? Help?

[@cmk5724]

Look at a map and find Norway. Then, look at a map and find Israel. Then, think to yourself whether or not it's reasonable that the Jews would have copied the concept of Odon.

[@parktol02]

@@cmk5724 Yeah, I tried pointing that out to the guy and he just said I straw-manned him. Typical of them to do so when you call their arguments out. It kind of added insult to injury when I made a mistake dating something wrong, so he just made fun of me for that.

[@cmk5724]

@@parktol02 Stop talking to him about it, since he's obviously an unreasonable person.

[@parktol02]

You wouldn't believe this... After some well thought out counter-arguments, which he ignored, I just made a joke to him that he had deconverted me (it had a really facetious tone, I thought it was obvious) and he actually believes me. The guy who was screaming straw man at me and cussing profusely at another guy who was assisting me, commended me and called me "amigo." Just demonstrates how gullible and close-minded the Christ-mythers are, treating people terribly when you refute their arguments, but then turning around and worshiping anyone who even PRETENDS to acknowledge their crack-pot theory and claims. Here is the link to the video where the debate commenced, frankly most of it's hilarious but the only sad part is that this guy thinks that his arguments are strong. His name is Nacho and the reply thread is really easy to find, as it has near 50 responses since the guy only comments in a few sentences at a time, all the while maintaining a condescending arrogance that is more obnoxious than a cloud of Axe Body Spray. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eImYYpKpj9h9q5Y I pray to God that he doesn't find this comment thread, as I'm going to pretend that I'm his new fanboi.

[@cmk5724]

@@parktol02 I'll check it out.

[@Dullbot]

Great video!

[@Kathleen49]

The most notorious traitor in history may have been one of its greatest martyrs, a crumbling, 1,700-year-old manuscript was found in caves in the area north and east of El Minya, Egypt, it first surfaced in the late 1970s, the document was assembled and translated by a team of scholars over a number of years and released to the public in April 2006. The ancient document purports to tell the true story of Jesus’ last days from the perspective of Judas, the “Gospel” claims that Judas was not a traitor at all, but a hero who faithfully followed Jesus’ orders to give him up. The document was written anonymously around 300 A.D. in Coptic script and repeats alleged conversations between the two men, revealing that in betraying Christ, Judas was fulfilling a divine mission. The manuscript was in such bad shape restorers had to reassemble more than 1,000 pieces before it could be translated. It was recently authenticated by carbon dating and painstakingly translated. The anonymously written document is authentic.

[@Jason_Abadi]

Although I like your videos, I find that you and I have VERY different theological ideas. I know that you're sold on the mainline Christian narrative, but I feel that you should approach these texts with a more open mind.

[@nathanmolone9950]

And also at least he could of shown the real dating paragraph he failed to mention that some gnostic writings predate the new testement not all of them of course but he also didn't mention that there's two copies of the gospel of Thomas and one of them predates the new testement and it is possible it came from the time of the historical jesus himself so it is much much older it is one of the earliest Christian scriptures they have found

[@merlinmbuso8448]

That's a very dangerous and academically shorthanded position to take, you need to explore a piece of knowledge from the perspective of it's time, not yours or others

[@michaelturnage3395]

Cool. Love this.

[@Hugo_jordao_oficial]

One for the book of Enoch. Love your ministry.

[@danyboon4851]

now there is one

[@CyberHound0912]

The fact these gnostic groups forged fake gospel and spreading lies about Jesus and the apostles just infuriates me. Good thing the church rejected them though

[@returnofhorusthegalacticor9704]

Based and unbiased philosophy

[@petetong9725]

I think there are elements of truth in it....it seems to corroborate the increasingly more popular belief that Jesus was not the son of the Old Testament God....his teachings were distinctly different from what was written by YHWH ...Jesus was sent by the Father to bring the truth to humankind and offer eternal life...in the canonical Bible he clearly says to the Pharisees that they are of their father the devil....confirming the OT God is not his father...

[@JewessChrstnMystic]

Christ also said no one had ever seen the fathers form or heard his voice at any time. 🤔 I've always wondered these things.

[@parker2969]

Yea but this doesnt mean that 150ad is to early for the reason that these gnostic beliefs had stemmed off after the death of christ. Right?

[@vicentesanmiguel1188]

Hey InspiringPhilosophy can u do a video talking aboutthe difference of Apollo and Jesus??

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Eventually, I'll include him in this. I have other alleged pagan deity connected to get to.

[@salometipsandtricks2786]

@@InspiringPhilosophy Actually judas was innocent. It states in the bible that he was possessed which means the one who betary Jesus was the snake who took over judas body at the last supper. Because if he is possessed he won't remember the conversation had with the jewish leaders to be able to kiss Jesus. The snake in his body was the one that kiss Jesus and betary him. Not judas. Judas was innocent.

[@jakemaster33]

Man.. satan isn't even a good deceiver, dude is clearly losing.

[@animalcart4128]

Nice (😂).

[@nathanieldrain907]

Maybe that's what he wants you to think. Easier to get you later.

[@jakemaster33]

@@nathanieldrain907 🤔hmm.. well that would be an unfortunate outcome for sure.. although, I'd really only have myself to blame.

[@ChosenMclean]

*For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.* John 3:16 KJV *JESUS CHRIST IS THE SON OF GOD!*

[@MarkRuslinzski]

Yes but what God

[@convert2islaam500]

Alleluia

[@ajgibson1307]

God bless

[@progodspeed2311]

Can I donate to you guys? You guys are phenomenal!

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Yes, please do! Thank you! www.patreon.com/inspiringphilosophy www.inspiringphilosophy.org/donate/

[@progodspeed2311]

InspiringPhilosophy ooo I’m now a patron... I still got figure how to see those “exclusive videos” that comes with the deal. Thanks IP! You truly are “inspiring” haha

[@feleslucis-emanueldearaujo6237]

The Gospel of Judas reminds me of Chris Chan for some reason.

[@j.larustaourillfatheraweri6411]

Why does no one actually write the gospel that their name is under

[@minddrift7152]

This is true.

[@JewessChrstnMystic]

Proof

[@afd4017]

have you ever heard of the Talmud of Jmmanuel (Emmanuel)

[@ewaldradavich7307]

Judas was interested in himself & held the purse & allegedly stole from the purse

[@WingedBagels]

That's just something those lying disciples would say

[@user-cz8gi2om3n]

Neoplatonism was explicitly anti-gnostic.

[@d_fendr6222]

IP, here's something that's been kind of troubling me lately- although its probably not a big deal. Whenever a family member or someone close to us dies, we feel sad. Even Christians do. But why do we feel sad when we'll be resurrected and this is all a part of God's plan? When we grieve for the loss of a loved one, we almost forget these beliefs, sure remembering them relieves us, but during the initial grieving process we focus on their deaths rather than where they'll go or that it's God's plan. It's almost like there's an inherently known truth that there is no next life, and grieving is just a natural thing. We only don't realize this truth is self evident because of our beliefs. Again this might not seem too troubling, but I'd like to hear what you'd say. Thank you.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Death was not a part of God's plan. The plan was the tree of life which we rejected.

[@d_fendr6222]

@@InspiringPhilosophy What I meant by God's plan is how Christians usually say bad things happen to lead into good sometimes (for example 9/11 brought many Christians together and airports have been safer than ever).

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

I don't say that. God can use bad things, but they were not part of His plan for humanity.

[@d_fendr6222]

@@InspiringPhilosophy I see. Well even then I still ask, why do we Christians feel sad about death even though we know God will resurrect us? As I said before, could it be a natural self evident truth that death is the end? EDIT: I mean the end of them, and that there is no next life.

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

Do you feel bad when you get hurt even though you know you will heal?

[@kojinmaster]

Why did jesus say "why have you forsaken me" ?

[@flavio0004]

He was quoting the old testament. Further proving He was the Messiah

[@merlinmbuso8448]

There are two reasons 1) Eli, Eli Lamashabachtani is Psalms 22, it's a prophecy. 2) Jesus on the cross took the punishment of mankind's sin, which is Hell, Hell is the absence of God, which in turn is a form of extreme torture for the soul.

[@manofaith75]

Wouldn't the easiest way to escape the "realm of chaos" to do as Judas did?

[@markkaistone6419]

Well if I were to add my two cents, taking this and many other religious/spiritual beliefs, suicide/suicide-like death wouldn't succeed in that and is actually in ways say it's counter intuitive in my words. If that was the case, in this text , Jesus could've just off'd himself but didn't and required judas to be the hand that does so. I see it as Jesus knows his fate and how he will end and can't change it so he mentions it and accepts it. In vice versa with Christian belief, Jesus technically was only able to "ascend" after his death by the betrayal of judas.

[@mohitt779]

Book of Enoch please Ü

[@krissaberhagen]

thats why they crucified him for blaspheme and heresy

[@rajj320]

Heresy alert!

[@jeremyjohn8199]

Sounds like some fan fiction 😂

[@WingedBagels]

Coming from a jew, I could say the same about your jesus books

[@justincatlette20]

Bananarama coming from me your Jew forgot about you

[@istanknowledgereason1561]

@@WingedBagels not going to lie, you actually DO have a point.

[@Navii-05]

@@WingedBagels Good thing we have great ammount of historical evidence that Christianity is true

[@neckshot6007]

The Book of Judas lol. Who takes crap like that seriously anyway? Haters hate and lovers love. It was probably written by some guy trying to make a buck back then. Shock art will always sell.

[@clou3557]

Very convenient that this came out in 1996. Just enough time for everyone to "discover"this long lost Gospel of Judas. It is all part of Judas's betrayal to Jesus. I was enlightened by God, and.. this is Satan's deception right here! There is a little truth to it.. but, it is not the truth! Pray for the truth. Ask God to guide you, in the truth. Their Is the Gospel and their is the anti gospel.

[@empireofengland6039]

Tell me if it's wrong. Homosexuality in church. It's like I read real predictions.

[@akaitikimi5525]

Let's not forget that the Spirit World and the Mortal World, have always coexisted and interacted with each other since the Creation!

[@WingedBagels]

Heresy!

[@MarcoC.130]

I do not believe in judas.

[@WingedBagels]

Judas doesn't believe in you, Marco

[@marcoramirez313]

Bananarama this is a false gospel made up to deceive many

[@misterbean7290]

Judas was innocent, blameless, and Judas was possessed by Satan Luke 22:3-6 KJV Then entered Satan into Judas surnamed Iscariot, being of the number of the twelve. [4] And he went his way, and communed with the chief priests and captains, how he might betray him unto them. [5] And they were glad, and covenanted to give him money. [6] And he promised, and sought opportunity to betray him unto them in the absence of the multitude. Judas feeling guilty when he was back on his mind, He repents.. He cannot bear the thing that he has done.. How can I do this to my friend.. And then he went and hang himself, Because he love his friend Jesus, but unfortunately he was out of his mind, because he was just possessed by Satan..

[@bornjusticerule5764]

This video proves that ancient religious texts are not historical documents due to the corruptible nature of humans who hold power and prestige over other humans. God doesn't need human created religion for God to be God. Thanks for another awesome video Michael.

[@paradisecityX0]

Why depict God as an old man? 🤔

[@InspiringPhilosophy]

It represents wisdom.

[@paradisecityX0]

@@InspiringPhilosophy l think something like my profile pic would be more appropriate but.....did he have to be white? Lol

[@davemuckeye1516]

HistoryNET ... Simply artistic impression... same as unbelievers citing paintings of Adam and Eve having belly buttons...

[@WingedBagels]

@@paradisecityX0 why wouldn't he be white? Isn't everyone white?

[@paradisecityX0]

@@WingedBagels Lol

[@eddenz1356]

Paul thought Jesus was a spiritual being also.

[@dmx7329]

no...

[@bromponie7330]

Paul calls Jesus a man, a decendant of David, and someone who has flesh. That sounds pretty physical to me. . .

[@shilatozier4254]

He’s citing Romans 1. Paul also believed Jesus was a physical man by his preaching “Christ Jesus and Him crucified.”

[@WingedBagels]

So he's demonic too then

[@SamAdamsGhost]

Uh, after His death yeah?

[@rockingpox2274]

Evil

[@WingedBagels]

Well that's not very nice

[@jnanashakti6036]

What's the proof of gnostic texts not just being written by non-Jewish cultures?

[@salometipsandtricks2786]

Actually judas was innocent. It states in the bible that he was possessed which means the one who betary Jesus was the snake who took over judas body at the last supper. Because if he is possessed he won't remember the conversation had with the jewish leaders to be able to kiss Jesus. The snake in his body was the one that kiss Jesus and betary him. Not judas. Judas was innocent.

[@seal9390]

Judas let the devil posses him

[@thechristianred5714]

Whilſt þe Goſpel of Thomas is written in a parabolic code, þe Goſpel of Judas has no ſuch ſaving grace. It's "pure", unadulterated Gnoſtic horſeſ**t.

[@WingedBagels]

Oh how these goths blaspheme the gods of their ancestors for some desert pretty boy! Do ye like his back, boy lover?

[@petemiller9865]

👊✌

[@roya4262]

A contradiction in the Christian bible you can't really explain: in the Torah, Genesis 23:8-19, it is told that Avraham bought the Machpelah Cave, which is in *Hebron* , from *Ephron* : 8 He said to them, “If you are willing to let me bury my dead, then listen to me and intercede with Ephron son of Zohar on my behalf 9 so he will sell me the cave of Machpelah, which belongs to him and is at the end of his field. Ask him to sell it to me for the full price as a burial site among you.” 10 Ephron the Hittite was sitting among his people and he replied to Abraham in the hearing of all the Hittites who had come to the gate of his city. 11 “No, my lord,” he said. “Listen to me; I give you the field, and I give you the cave that is in it. I give it to you in the presence of my people. Bury your dead.” 12 Again Abraham bowed down before the people of the land 13 and he said to Ephron in their hearing, “Listen to me, if you will. I will pay the price of the field. Accept it from me so I can bury my dead there.” 14 Ephron answered Abraham, 15 “Listen to me, my lord; the land is worth four hundred shekels of silver, but what is that between you and me? Bury your dead.” 16 Abraham agreed to Ephron’s terms and weighed out for him the price he had named in the hearing of the Hittites: four hundred shekels of silver, according to the weight current among the merchants. 17 So Ephron’s field in Machpelah near Mamre-both the field and the cave in it, and all the trees within the borders of the field-was deeded 18 to Abraham as his property in the presence of all the Hittiteswho had come to the gate of the city.19 Afterward Abraham buried his wife Sarah in the cave in the field of Machpelahnear Mamre (which is at Hebron) in the land of Canaan. And from the Christian bible, Acts 7:14-16, suddenly Avraham bought the Machpelah Cave from the *sons of Hamor* , and the cave is in *Shechem* : 14 After this, Joseph sent for his father Jacob and his whole family, seventy-five in all.15 Then Jacob went down to Egypt, where he and our ancestors died. 16 Their bodies were brought back to Shechem and placed in the tomb that Abraham had bought from the sons of Hamor at Shechem for a certain sum of money.

[@roya4262]

@@dmx7329 Stop these Christianic lies. In Acts it said "Jacob went down to Egypt, *where he and our ancestors died* . Their bodies were brought back to Shechem" *Jacob's ancestors, Isaac, Avraham, Rebecca and Sarah are all buried in the Machpela Cave which is in Hebron!* So how come suddenly he brought them to Schechem if it's a known thing his *ancestors* are in the Machpelah Cave in Hebron? I'll tell you why the author of the Christian Bible got confused... because Joseph himself got buried in Shechem! Come on you can be smarter than all these lies you been told... you're in denial right now.

[@JewessChrstnMystic]

@@roya4262 the torah was not even written by moses. Rabbinical scholars are even admitting the exodus probably didnt happen, and if it did not at all lile its depicted in the torah. Furthermore, scholars have proof that it may have been written in babylonian exile and if that's is true you can see where Jeremiah warns against trusting the prophets in babylonian exile and says they tell lies. Furthermore again, the bible and even tanakh talks about the lying pen of the scribes and traditions of men not commanded by The Father. You should really research these things, also the Jews currently residing in Israel are not real Jews.

[@SamAdamsGhost]

@@JewessChrstnMystic oh boy! I do so love antisemitic conspiracy theorists

[@MartialNico]

I think the greater issue with this work is that it provides another account on Jesus. So as a theïst, you're now put in the position that you have to argue and justify why you'd believe the canonical Gospels, but not this one.

[@SamAdamsGhost]

Not that hard

[@Jeanine107]

Whoever wrote this it does not belong in the Bible! It just does not fit with what I read in my Bible! Its just not right!

[@WingedBagels]

Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

[@doggoslayer5679]

@@WingedBagels ok Darth Vader

[@DefenderOfChrist_]

@@WingedBagelsI could write my own gospel today about Jesus you would believe it?

[@nathanmolone9950]

Some of the scriptures in the nag hamadi predate the new testement wich you didn't mention you also didn't mention how there are two copies of the gospel of Thomas one was tested that could of gone back to the time of jesus him self which was written in Coptic and then a second one written in Greek which was written either around the same time of the new testement or just after so ur testing paragraph is not a factual one thouhh dating items is never 100 percent accurate but instead of going with actual scientific testing you leaned towards your own views as much as you might not like to admit it the gospel of Thomas is much much older then any of the new testement

[@SamAdamsGhost]

Hah! No it isn't. There is absolutely no evidence to support that

[@robertmenezes6456]

FIRST

[@miketu2102]

Robert Menezes to chocon deez nuts lmfao

[@WingedBagels]

LAST

[@TheWhyisthatso]

"For as the lightning comes from the east and shines even unto the west, so shall the coming of the Son of Man be " ( Mathew 24:27 ) The "LIGHTNING" = the "LIGHT" (Truth) of the "gospel" (good news) OF (from) Christ (Jesus) The "EAST" = a little town in EGYPT called Nag Hammadi, and the "GNOSTIC GOSPELS" The "WEST" = the western world, and namely the USA who is "ISRAEL" (Ephraim) The "SON OF MAN" = a Divine Title that tells us WHO WE ARE "In Christ"....a PERFECT "MAN"

[@SamAdamsGhost]

What?

[@TheChaz789]

Hahaha can't believe they tried to make Jesus look like a douchebag! 😂

[@naamislimane6009]

Did you know that Paul never met Jesus, and did you know that those who wrote the Gospel were unknown people who never saw Jesus? Find the history of your book

[@kwakuandspinopython1346]

What's your excuse Jesus's apostles supported Paul after Paul repented and changed how is your argument relevant in this video

[@bradleymaffit5832]

A rhetorical question I ask... Who wrote the book of Judas? Who wrote this book of lies? The answer is right in front of us all,... and yet hidden in plain sight. I tell you it was written between 150-300AD and it was written by Judas Iscariot himself. Judas Iscariot Baron Rothschild Baron of life. Lord of Money. Betrayer of the Slain Lamb who has Risen. Deceiver of this world. Satan entered into him and he is who Jeremiah was speaking of in Jeremiah 8:8... The scriptures lead us to a Savior and our Savior provides us the Holy Spirit, so that way we can understand what is truth and what is lies in the scriptures. You must sacrifice your flesh body to provide a temple for the Holy Spirit to dwell in. Catholicism, Nazism, Zionism and Islam are all paintings of his hand. And if Judas Iscariot Baron Rothschild lives until the return of Christ what is that to you? You must fallow Christ the Messiah!

[@shilatozier4254]

What? This sounds heretical

[@JewessChrstnMystic]

Baron Rothschild? What?

[@SamAdamsGhost]

You are insane

[@bradleymaffit5832]

@@SamAdamsGhost You are like dust on a windy day.

[@SamAdamsGhost]

@@bradleymaffit5832 Yup, insane

[@rollingrockink1]

I think "Christian Truthers" are the 21st century version of gnostics.

[@WingedBagels]

Injections turned my son gay

[@540babycedd6]

We all have different creators. Period. If we had the same creator then yall wouldn't hate me because of my skin. Or stole our god and made him yours because yall were jealous of our melanin

[@SamAdamsGhost]

Dude what?

[@merlinmbuso8448]

So your God has Melanin?

[@justincole8039]

Any question I ever have about Christianity I come here

[@stridedeck]

It is too bad that you do not understand the fundamental precepts of Gnosticism and twist it to your own conclusions and bias.

[@dmx7329]

we very well understand it and you guys need to stop your bullshit

[@stridedeck]

For the Gnostics and for other mystery religions, it was an inner development. They were trying to see and experience reality outside of thought and that is the reason for so many symbols and metaphors. Thought takes words literally which means that the words and ideas are rigid and dead. To perceive the unknown which is not structured, the approach also has to be unstructured. If one takes a structural approach, it then becomes chasing the known and is a self-fulfilling and not a self-understanding.

[@dmx7329]

the biggest problem is it isnt true the gnostic books are found at later dates if i write now a text about jesus jumping from here to the moon does that mean he did it??? that is your logical conclusione the impossibility of the scripture of the gnostics makes me laugh

[@dmx7329]

btw are you appealing to possibility and permiting a black and white fallacy since you consider yourself to know the gnostic text meaning and we dont without any kind of data given wich is also a burden of proof fallacy or shifting the burden of proof

[@stridedeck]

Since I am alive 2,000 years after the texts were written, delivered, and discussed by the authors, clearly, I am using my experiences and research into understanding the Gnostic and other mystery religions. For example, 76 times, "faith" and all its derivatives (faithfully, faithfulness, believe) are mentioned in the Old and New Testament and not one verse gives an actual literal definitions. Instead, "faith" is used as a noun to some internal human development out of which comes love and hope. Again, faith is not used as an intellectual outcome and result, but as an internal development. Christianity gives us an intellectual approach which goes against the usage of faith in the Bible.

[@dr.monoarhossain6586]

Judas actually save Jesus life by hiding him. The romans killed another man seems to be Jesus.

[@merlinmbuso8448]

When will yo Muslims finally admit that you guys stole the substitution theory from heretical gospels?🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@DefenderOfChrist_]

The Muslim belief came from the Gnostics everything in Islam comes from Christianity or Christian heresies

[@BongBing11]

That's a dumb idea

[@BileDuctBalderdash]

Saklas rules you all. And you like it.

[@SamAdamsGhost]

Lmao, ok heretic

[@M0rtanius]

These gnostics are eerily similar to Buddhism - both groups try to reach enlightenment through wisdom, both have a teacher that teaches this wisdom, and both believe they will leave this realm once they attain it.

[@rollerbladedudez]

There are actually documents belonging to Buddhist monasteries in India that state that Jesus, aka Issa, which means son of God spent time at a monastery there. A Lama explained the scope, along with the level of enlightenment, which Jesus had managed to achieve during his time at the monastery and this was said to be an extreme level. The Lama said that Jesus was a great prophet and had been the first following twenty-two Buddha’s. He went on to say that he was greater than all of the Dalai Lamas as he constituted the spirituality of the Lord.

[@salemsuwareh1643]

@@rollerbladedudez It's a hoax.

[@PewPewFig]

@@salemsuwareh1643 And christian beliefs aren't? Ignorant

[@Lord_Ivoundy_Creood]

@k.o. ed actually the three wise men or Magi are Zoroastrian Preists as the title Magi actually reffers to Zoroastrian preists. Their religion is actually very monotheistic.

[@marvalice3455]

@k.o. ed we know the wise men were Magi though... Magi being zoroastrian holy men, not Buddhist monks. That buddhism is older is not an argument because the two are only superficially similar