The Grandmaster cookie scene

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[@TreadstoneOperative]

It was never about a competition of strength or prowess. It was about a test of leadership and wisdom. Ip Man is being tested on his ability to make the transition of power acceptable by everyone else. To defeat the Chairman in combat would mean a continual bloodbath by all who wants to challenge Ip Man via strength. To break the cookie with force would mean a display of brutality, not intelligence. To break the cookie through the Chairman's own insistence to hold the cookie illustrates the exact point. The point is the Chairman is ready to leave because his inability to visualize further from his own limits. And Ip Man must allow the Chairman to leave with dignity intact so the cookie must be broken in the hands of the Chairman. Ip Man understood the control of strength, the display of wit, the measurement of dignity and the wise consideration of all present. That's why the Chairman could leave the position so happily, knowing that it would be in good hands of Ip Man now.

[@LunaticReason]

Well said

[@insygnia_]

🙏

[@j.i.s.l178]

🍿 🎯 🧠 🙏 (XièXiè)

[@samatha1994]

So very well said. Some will look just at the "fighting", the conflict

[@ShapelessElephant]

The signboard at 5:28 says "republic". It suggests Yip Man would pass on Chinese martial art in a new era of political change and turmoil, which he did. He taught apprentices like Bruce Lee who brought Chinese martial art on silver screens all around the world.

[@boastherkildsen1120]

Their intellectual and emotional prowess is sage-like.

[@crawlFace]

(Part 2 of 2) Ip realizes he cannot or should not actually or directly break the cake. His greater understanding of the situation is that a torch and legacy is being passed on to him through the grandmaster, so the same understanding is applied to the technique to break the cake: the grandmaster must break the cake or through the grandmaster or together with the grandmaster the cake can be broken. What Ip realizes is not the limitation of the grandmaster’s skill but how the cake naturally limits and restricts the grandmaster. In ideology/theory, the grandmaster is bound by the cake. Ultimately the grandmaster has to hold the cake and keep it from Ip. Ip realizes he will not go for the cake but he will go for the grandmaster. This is why on Ip’s third consideration he readies his hand past the cake and in challenge of the grandmaster. The grandmaster can defend the cake but not truly or entirely defend himself. In harmony with this and the grandmaster, engaging, Ip reaches the position where he is able to make contact with the grandmaster and transfer the energy/chi through to the cake. Technically Ip never actually/literally breaks the cake. It was the energy/chi transfer from Ip through the grandmaster that breaks the cake. Or it takes both the grandmaster and Ip together to break the cake. Through this process, Ip understands how to answer the riddle: “The world is a big place; why limit it to North and south?” the next sentence is key: “It holds you back”. (The limitation of having to hold on to the cake and defend the cake and treat the cake so specialized, the same limitation of only seeing North and South and country when ultimately it is all part of life everywhere) “To you this cake is the country; to me it is much more.” “If the Southern arts go far, what boundary is the North?” -Meaning: since the north and south are each other’s border, each is as large or small as the other. If one is large then so is the other. No matter how far one expands they will still be together as borders of each other. Ultimately: there is neither without the other. The grandmaster confirms our analysis of Ip’s understanding and answer to the question: “Well said. All my life I have been the victor; my technique has never failed me.” ** “I never thought I’d see the limits of my own vision.” -I was through those limits that Ip was able to effectively solve the riddle. The grandmaster was bound by the bread, connected to the bread, so through the grandmaster the bread could be broken. If Ip would have tried to directly break the bread itself he would have failed the riddle.

[@keeganfall2214]

crawlFace brilliant.

[@subwoofer6726]

You sir deserve a reward of something, top notch explanation.

[@boredstranger7522]

crawlFace well done!

[@jonathancook8343]

Cheers buddy, saw this years ago but could not articulate the meaning of this scene, karma

[@shaolintze2540]

ask the director of the movie

[@timothyeung]

Kung Fu Panda would have eaten the cake before the Grandmaster finished the first sentence.

[@stevenbrazza6881]

true....panda likes burn.....

[@Tbonyandsteak]

he would swallow it in one piece without breaking it

[@willyroeroe]

he would swallow it along with those hand holding the cookies

[@rxonmymind8362]

I would have walked over to the plate and grabbed two and proceeded to eat them. North..munch, munch South? Munch, munch... We can have both! The plate is the world and the cookies are Kung fu. Simple test.

[@saemushailstorm3135]

you got that right , hah !

[@saetmusic]

I absolutely LOVE this scene. You can almost feel the chi energy!

[@OsamaBinLooney]

a true master never stops learning or admitting he can learn XD

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

Is one of unwritten laws of martial arts , the learnings curve is endless

[@j.i.s.l178]

🍿 🎯 🧠 🙏

[@StarSpawn06]

For those who are curious, the two characters on the signboard behind Yip Man at 5:27 form the Chinese word for "Republic". This, combined with the upbeat music, is probably to reflect the old chairman and Yip Man's common vision of a bright future for Chinese Martial Arts in the new era (i.e. the Republic). As for literal meaning, the two characters (共和) stand for "common harmony".

[@legendofzeldafan-nk9bv]

This is just like iroh in avatar: the last airbender. "Understanding others. The other elements, and the other nations will help you become whole".

[@seggsc01]

The beauty of the scene is that when faced with fame, fortune, ego, accolades from peers, all within a heartbeats grasp, it is THEN you must put aside your own selfish desires, to stay self-less. Self-lessness thru continued example is more powerful than any fighting style or technique. 👊🏾😎👍🏾

[@aaronconstantine1292]

Amen

[@rampant1apart]

They made fighting over a cookie really cool. I'm impressed.

[@bobdoubter2977]

Luckily for them it was not a chocolate chip cookie or punches would have been flying.

[@SCP-Dr_Bright]

so IP is Po from kung fu panda???

[@NyanHomeschoolGirl17]

DOVAH FARCRY Exactly! 😂

[@daoyang223]

Tony Leung is awesome, we almost never see him in action roles or Kung fu epics like this. He is a great actor, but he is also a great martial artist.

[@ashchaya7676]

Even in old times, the cake was a lie.

[@mdl222]

Hahaha! Well played In ancient China, the cake IS a lie

[@condorX2]

I was looking at all those smokers in the room all this time. Everyone gonna get second hand lung cancer if smoking taken place like this everyday.

[@technewsfortechnoobs]

God, this is such an incredible display of being a graceful loser in a contest. Why can't more people be like this...congratulate the victor with true sincerity and heartfelt wishes for their success in the future.

[@kenwu7]

No cake involved most times that's why 😂

[@ariffadam5611]

The first 2 times before he even touches the cookie he already felt the cookie is being 'protected', by his 'chi' energy. Using wing chun sticky hand style he manage to distract and redict the chi.

[@samuelsaavedra3908]

Agreed. I think the mastery was the circular dance and pushing chi through the forearms and palm every time they touched, just enough to build up a crack. If that is true, then that was real Chi-Kung mastery. Wow.

[@MrBigR928]

One of the best movies ever! Beautifully shot and so intense. The Wu Shu is spectacular oh my goodness!👍

[@johnandrewservice8598]

Really like this scene, it's full of traditional scenery Kungfu history and discipline, absolutely spectacular. loved every minute of the film.

[@keeperkai999]

Ip: "Hello, is it cookie monster on sesame street? This old dude is offering a cookie..." cookie monster " COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE COOKIE!!!!!" old man: "oh shit, I'm outta here!"

[@whoamipooh8977]

this is one scene i would have liked to see in person, to see the entire sequence not just through the camera, it's graceful watching it through the camera.

[@saetmusic]

One of the best kung fu/tai chi scenes I've ever scene! The subtlety is worth more than 100 screaming fights. The Chi and wisdom are spectacular! The videography, the movement, you can almost feel the flow of energy between the 2 men!

[@saetmusic]

The other wonderful thing about this scene is the fantastic faces- the 2 protagonists and all of the onlookers. Fantastic!

[@kalisto69jade]

I am so doing this for the last Oreo....

[@marcchesley3731]

I just realized lau kar yung aka "mouse" is in this movie. I love this guy when he was young so talented and adorable.

[@DrunkenDarwin]

The story about the sparrow in the palm is an actual story told about Yang Lu Chan of Yang Style Taichi :D

[@TheStrataminor]

Yes, and I think it is one of those embellished kung-fu stories (I am a student of Yang Taichi and do love it, just I think the stories get a bit far fetched though..)

[@saetmusic]

What a wonderful gallery of faces, beautifully lit, in this scene!

[@jefflosey1561]

One of many things that attracts people to a Martial Practice is that there is "more" than what meets the eye and that one may attain is possible. The Cookie test is a beautifully scripted Masterpiece.

[@AnnaLVajda]

How perspective affects outcomes.

[@Heart2HeartBooks]

I have been fasting for almost 2 days....Sure wish I could eat that cookie.

[@jerseyltd]

You can feel the power of a master with these moves.

[@LunaticReason]

I'm a martial artist myself and I wanted to share my perspective of the scene and the message it is trying to convey. First the concepts of energy vs resistance. In order for a sparrow to fly off or even a person to jump there has to be something to resist so that energy can be acknowledges in Chinese martial arts we learn to channel and manipulate that energy rather then just force on force this is what the Cookie test is conveying. Secondly is the conflict between ideas. There used to be this feud between which is better Northern or Southern? Rather then the rigid idea of trying to be the best its better to be open. Which leads me to our current feud between MMA and Traditional Martial arts.

[@lumimustapha2615]

Wisdom sifu. Wisdom 🙏🏾

[@ssb753]

I truly love watching the history of Kun Fu Makes one search them selves

[@steveseekstruth34]

念念不忘，必有回響 這句話好有意思

[@tonysandy2645]

Story of BruceLee'sMaster... Tony Leung Chiu-wai... Awesome...

[@flungingpictures]

@crawlFace At 05:27, the plaque over IP Man's shoulder is 共和 usu it is translated as "Republic". Literally it means 'together peacefully.'

[@felixhuynh2667]

This answer and realization is needed now more than ever today for chinese martial arts to make a comeback.

[@ssb753]

What respect for each other This is how they are disciplined by their inter training

[@lolanakahale1665]

maybe that cookie cracked because it doesn't have enough moisture in it. it looks dry

[@patrickzu1461]

Lolana Kahale hahaha that’s a good one. But sadly no, I ate this kind of cakes before, it’s not crunchy but really resilient.

[@fredtjack23]

Stop.

[@tajinelson7815]

Lol

[@SkySovereignn]

Imo this scene is a wonderful lesson about leadership

[@ahxpluhh]

And that's how fortune cookies were invented. 😊

[@johnholborn563]

Confucius say; That's the way Cookie crumbles.

[@LeonidThe90sKid]

That guy looks like a Chinese Rickson Gracie.

[@aliyarab7510]

'Knowledge & Wisdom Over power'. Indeed, that's the way to solve conflicts, NOT by sending poor young soldiers to fight for the Dictators' egos.

[@saifulnidzamnidzam6628]

Man.. old people's knows how to said with words.. full of meanings

[@bobsharen3741]

That's how the cookie crumbles...

[@mrmagneto2700]

My favorite scene in the movie

[@truet1919]

I will add, "Break from what you think you Know and you will Know more".

[@Flat10squirrel]

this foreshadows the cookies on the internet now, what vision.

[@vanwangye]

The translation is not accurate. This is a mental warfare. Thats why so many western audience dont understand this part. This is Yang style Taichi. The bird theory is like a bird need to borrow strength elsewhere to uplift itself to flight. The old man outside said IP Man need to first find a spot to borrow the strength in order to break the biscuit. This is Taichi. Using the enemy's strength to defend itself. IP Man last words on imperfection brings progress had made him win the mental warefare.

[@uchihahikaku1630]

I had a feeling there was more to understand in this scene. I'm a huge fan of foreign movies but it sucks because i know i won't fully understand the message that's trying to be passed across when i watch them. There are words even in my own language that have no English equivalent to them. So i can understand why the translations aren't enough.

[@volodya1975]

@@uchihahikaku1630 Don't feel bad. I'm bilingual and sometimes I don't fully get the concept either.

[@1MarkKeller]

@@uchihahikaku1630 ... sorta like how slang doesn't translate well either.

[@lelandcheng9187]

@keahistight birds just don't levitate off the ground, most of them especially smaller birds push off and do a little hop to help them gain lift. So yes in theory if one can pull with the same flow of force as the bird the bird can never find purchase to push off.

[@PierreLucSex]

What the hell

[@sharkymagnum9756]

gawd...this is a GREAT scene! He presents the "inquisitive hand" of Wing•Chun then engages the Grandmaster in Tai•Chi while drawing him in with Ba•gua. Makes the pressure break with a Zui•Quan shoulder stike! :0

[@napbot7468]

5:42 Word in the plaque means "Republic".

[@jiechen5954]

yes

[@7ajhubbell]

Thank you.

[@count.chieviousblinker2332]

Thank You Sempai. Domo Arigato Gozaimasu.

[@maliksaleem612]

Break from what you think you know and you will know more.

[@annoyed707]

Neither one of them accepted the cookie policy. They didn't even scroll far enough to read it!

[@eangthaingov9923]

Hello there! I want to state that there are many different ways to break the cake in the hand of Sifu. Firstly, I will suggest Sifu to break the cake in his own hands without my aid. Secondly, I can pick up a cake and see how I break the cake in my hands before Sifu breaks the cake. Thirdly, I will eat the cake in my hand and there is no need to break the cake. ETN....

[@swordfool2571]

5:33 the Chinese words means The Republic

[@ChrisJohnson-jb3cb]

That was some good wisdom. Wow.

[@thejoker3644]

1:37 ''No, but i can eat it! :)''

[@shllouise]

bro the chills are real

[@monkeseeaction21987]

That cookie is T H I C C

[@Malcolm6651]

Watch it in "slow motion" if you want to go up ............ a level.

[@sonofsouth2800]

That's the way the cookie crumbles.

[@marcsworld1love]

Keep the light burning

[@randygeyer7673]

Amazing

[@davidcheng6963]

you must break the rules to become a real master.

[@YeeRattakornY]

This is what is kungfu means. It's an art of life, not beating to death.

[@dexterchoy7756]

This is how The Real Mandarin ascends the throne!

[@tarzan8347777]

Excellent translation

[@tonymac623]

gives you a snapshot of how Chan Wah Shun was like during training and Testing of his Disciples

[@conniemangupag3298]

grandmaster. daugther of master can you upload this with English caption in full. really want to watch this. thank you

[@maverick3494]

แตกต่างแต่ไม่แตกแยก อ่อนด้อยแต่ไม่อ่อนข้อ แข็งกร้าวแต่ไม่ก้าวร้าว 💙

[@paolo3594]

IL MIGLIOR FILM DI ARTI MARZIALI MAI VISTO. Non e' la storia, che e' anche bella , non sono le tecniche di kung fu (di cui vedo un po di errori). No, e' lo SPIRITO, il RITMO, la PACE che infonde interiormente che ha voluto far provare il regista. Questo e' lo spirito che deve avere un praticante di wushu specie interno come e' il Wing Chun e molti altri. GRAZIE INFINITE AL REGISTA

[@MzuMzu-nx1em]

The beauty of bagua

[@Holyrollah]

the cookie monster woulda had a PURE FIT if he woulda witnessed a cooking being wasted !

[@Azami0001]

"Break from what you know and you will know more." That honestly shook me. Also anyone craving for flat cake or is it just me?

[@jujubeda01]

And that is where the cookie crumbles

[@godsun798]

WONDERFUL💎❤️❤️🙏

[@hotforteacher7540]

listen to all these philosophers in here.

[@ehought]

Of course! The philosophy of fools.

[@Enkazee]

Nice view up there on your high horse?

[@duckhere23]

How can we listen you idiot

[@Truth4Freedom]

When life is short and material gains perishes, only honour stand the rest of times. Our ancient teachers knew that but sadly it is now receding into history.

[@clonearmycustomsrulz]

the real question is: what's the name for that kind of pastry? Haven't had one since I was a kid

[@adenjromaricruzzadierdjesh6439]

wonderfull

[@danielburgess7785]

Everybody in the room dies of second hand smoke.

[@Jason_N7]

Ip Man was on a diet, he never wanted the cookie... but it was being forced on him. So he broke it instead, to prove a point. Still, gotta hand it to Ip Man, he was declining it with such grace.

[@vishdhoom]

Whenever challenged create a duet not a duel. :)

[@simoncuming41]

I would have taken a big bite out of the cookie and said whether its from North or South Chinese food sure is tasty!

[@jackli3989]

There is no way you can stop someone break that cake。 If he/she really want to

[@feelwang]

The translation is wrong but it is in a way better. Especially IP last words "真管用的话，南拳又何止被传呢？“ the meaning of these words answer directly to the original question post upon before the fight. "You are representing the south. You say south is better than north. OK. See this pie, if you can break it, then you win. Let the pie be the judge telling who is better. North or south.". And based on the ending, IP has used his whatever you call it "qi gong" or whatnot, he is decent and retreat early, not too early, not too late, let the cake breaks and he finished what he is trying to say “If south is really that good, south will conquer not only north but beyond!". This is IP's character - flamboyant - no wonder Bruce Lee is his student. North gongfu is no joke. The cake will be held in no force so if IP man take it, it will be given to him in full. Breaking the cake into 2 pieces by one man is no brainer. If one man just breaks it right away, the whole audience will all fall off the stairs and this movie will be a comedy ( it might not be bad I should say). Anyways, the father lost, the daughter took it as a defeat. Really stir again my interest to see this movie again.

[@MrRant247]

Arguing over noodle prices!

[@traviskoh999]

it's about Control.

[@Nigglebaun]

powerful.

[@Time4yes]

Y can't you upload the full movie?

[@davedoesstuff3550]

and so the cookie crumbles...

[@luckywize5270]

That old dude surely can vape 🤣

[@aclock2]

I think the dificulty here is Ipman must break the cake using the Grandmaster's strength, not his own. Like a Judo technique but at much much higher level.

[@annoyed707]

Careful there. There is more to good judo than you think, and there are higher levels of skill. Just watch Mifune dumbfound senior judo practitioners who were trying (and failing) to throw him.

[@rockydee7499]

On all my YT journeys I've seen it all. From a fish living inside a worms anus to two grown man fighting over a cookie.

[@hakimyohannes5122]

LMAOOOO

[@aryapatel7615]

worm in fish bro

[@rockydee7499]

@@aryapatel7615 no. Its an actual fish living inside a sea cucumbers anus. Weird world

[@prospero6337]

SuperGood

[@juangodinez8237]

I wonder how a lot of smart people here say that the translation it's inaccurate yet they can not exactly translate it.

[@elevander]

Juan Godinez it’s not really translated wrong, just has the classic translation problem of nuance and wording, so it doesn’t sound right to native speakers

[@HanZhang1994]

That's because of just how different Mandarin is from English. If we were to translate it literally, which would be in some sense the most accurate, then it would be the least understandable because it would require a breadth of understanding of cultural idioms, norms and poetics to get.

[@justinjuneazucenas9351]

the baker probably upset they playin with his food n shit

[@maverick3494]

ความต่างไม่ใช่ว่าจะอยู่ร่วมกันไม่ได้ ขอแค่เราต่างเคารพและให้เกียรติซึ่งกันและกัน ต่างคนต่างเคารพสิทธิ๋ ซึ่งกันและกัน......😁😁😁

[@B1Springfield]

That cake looked tasty

[@cashrules520]

This is where he becomes Grandmaster IP

[@Axgoodofdunemaul]

Now I want a cookie.

[@lenasavic6533]

february 2019