The Grapevine Sparks A Social Media Debate: Is Bruno Mars' Music Cultural Appropriation?🤔

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[@selliott3016]

Girl that blue is popping 🙋

[@SeanaSparkleTV]

Boring music???? Better than 2Pac??????!!!!! These kids.... oh hell naw, where's my belt?????!!!!!!!!

[@tm6777]

SEANA SPARKLE thank you 😂😂😂

[@tawannas3802]

I'm dead😂😂😂😂😂forget a belt these fools need to go get a switch off the tree.

[@SeanaSparkleTV]

tawanna S Word!

[@msdiva29]

Girl, you a switch! Lol

[@ufuomaagadumo1390]

😂😂😂

[@Jassiepoohbear]

Appropriation vs Appreciation is the key. In Bruno Mars' case I'd definitely consider it appreciation rather than appropriation for the simple fact that he acknowledges the origin of his music and he continuous to pay homage to it while doing so. He's not trying to make it seem like he came up with this style of music and is very forthcoming about where and who his inspirations are.

[@humbled92_Mister]

Jassiepoohbear EXACTLY

[@thatssoyaya]

I don't believe that Bruno Mars is a cultural appropriator because he gives the credit to black culture. Cultural appropriation, in my opinion, is when the Kardashians are seen as beautiful by getting black features surgically but thinking that black women are ugly for their natural black features.

[@dalell3808]

Features can not be owned by a race... Sweety features are not part of ur culture and they could never be that's just stooopid... The cultural appropriation they did is the hairstyles, the lifestyle, the clothes and claiming them as theirs not the features.

[@perc30julio12]

@dal ell Exactly, I find it hilarious how Black women complain about the Kardashians "benefiting" off of black women features, yet most of them wear the hair of another woman’s hair on their head.

[@silvercrown9876]

Mike GZO which was started when we were told we had to look a certain way to be seen as beautiful. and not wear our natural hair because it was too much for y’all

[@thatssoyaya]

silvercrown exactly! And dal ell, features ARE owned by a race. What 100% Italian is born with plump lips that KYLIE JENNER paid for?! I’ll wait “Sweety”...

[@perc30julio12]

silvercrown who’s y’all???? I’m not white I’m mixed Trini n Dominican. I’m just saying. No one cares about ur hair. It’s 2020. Weave makes u seem Self hating.

[@_Lunanella_]

The power is in the people. If we want to see more black people in black music, we have to support them. Point blank period.

[@simonstuart2003]

the truth

[@queneshiab]

Facts

[@likereallystfu]

Exactly

[@rageguy9696]

And create our OWN shit.

[@Getitgirl816]

We do support them, its the Big Machine behind non black artist that promote them more. Tank the singer and Stepheine Mills talks about this very subject in detail. I know this to be a reality when I check out the music section at Target. Justin Timberlake's album is heavily displayed, while other black R&B newly released albums have one spot on the shelf.

[@SagRising19]

That blue is fierrrce on you TI

[@bonitaapplebaum4202]

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[@NubianSioux]

Yass indeed!😍😍😍😍

[@SagRising19]

Bonita Applebaum Yessss it’s too cute

[@doublecheese21]

They only picked on Bruno Mars because he ain’t going to do shit. He don’t care what anyone thinks! he already admits to being inspired by the black culture so it ain’t nothing new. It’s been like this for years even people we’re so worried about Eminem too. We as society make them popular and it’s not like their music is garbage. its always been🔥🔥🔥. Post Malone and all those other mumble rappers are culture vultures. It’s funny how people pick the most humblest people to argue about. Bruno Mars is far from culture vulture. He worked his ass off and I love every damn song that man comes out with and I’m going to keep supporting his music. Regardless if he is black or not. Good Music is Good Music 🙌🏾💕👌🏾😁

[@jenneacoleman-cubero2365]

Preach!

[@msdiva29]

Bravo! You said it all. If that would have been about Cardi B, she would have responded to them. He is very talented and they trying to discredit him.

[@artishamann]

doublecheese21 AGREED!!!!

[@brownbronxbaby]

doublecheese21 I So Agree ,I so Agree! Love His Music! It’s Easy To Listen To,I Love to Dance To His Music,U can Understand Every Word/Lyric, & It Makes Sense!

[@MsRose00]

Agreed. Besides, people like Bruno Mars because he’s bringing back that funk music that was popular back with Morris Day and the Time and such. Is any other young black artist doing funk music right now? And like you, I’m still gonna listen to Bruno Mars. Wanna see his ass in concert! Just as I still support Eminem as he’s one of the few mainstream rappers, of my generation, that knows how to talk about something other than a big ass jiggling in the club. I will even support Justin Timberlake as I am a fan of his music. Hell, I grew up listening to his ass. FutureSex LoveSounds is still a bomb ass album that I can listen too from beginning to end.

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[@lilmindless28]

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YASS TI! From the hair, to the makeup, to the outfit, and background you are on point. Keep slaying.

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[@TheLoveweaver]

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[@blumountaindew]

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[@ncp2103]

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[@Gen_X_Rosey]

I think Cultural Appropriation falls more under the realm of making fun of or disrespecting the culture. The rappers who are disrespecting our rappers who have passed on and saying they are "better" than them? THAT is appropriation. Bruno Mars is helping to REVIVE a part of our culture that was abandoned and nearly forgotten. What he is doing is CULTURAL REVITALIZATION! Maybe we should thank him for that, not condemn him for it! My oldest daughter once made the point that culture is made to be shared, and as many people that can pay homage to us and make us remember those parts of our culture that we seemingly forgot or wanted to put to rest... we should thank them for making us remember!

[@SheniceSays214]

Bruno Mars is appreciating the culture to me, and putting out quality work. Now these mumble rappers are garbage period.

[@thetayoung1465]

Thank you! Funny how these same people don't criticize those rappers for constantly misrepresenting our race.

[@knowdaqueen177]

Bruno is the differentiation between appropriation and appreciation. He constantly acknowledges his inspiration and has always expressed a deep appreciation for funk r&b and hip hop. He managed to combine that appreciation with raw talent and turn it into a craft that's not appropriation

[@DSCKansas]

I think specifically in Brunos case, its appreciation. This is authentic to him, and he acknowledges the past and history. People like Elvis just took from us, and acted like they created it. No acknowledgement of black culture in Elvis and Beach boys and the Justins. Just my opinion

[@mannytawo904]

Shāla A y’all all sound dumb af Bruno is spanish n hip hop was created in NY by BLACKS AND HISPANICS so wtf is the problem? How can one appropriate a culture his people helped create?

[@knowdaqueen177]

Elle D of course not but I don't believe that makes Bruno a culture vulture. You're absolutely right that it's a deeper issue but Bruno isn't it

[@knowdaqueen177]

M.L. Rayton I agree

[@xxmaarilyn]

Elle D If Beyoncé or Rihanna were dark skinned black women would they have the same success? No. But we can’t just discredit people’s talent and hard work all the time because they profit off of a system they did not create and cannot control.

[@JenJHayden]

he is not guilty of cultural appropriation. he doesnt pretend to create anything. he's not out here saying "i came up with this new style called Mars SoulFunk."

[@GarageStudio7]

Did XXXTentacles literally say "I'm better than Tupac" 😂

[@Decorum.n.Decisions]

GarageStudio i was shell shocked when he said that. 😭😭

[@boohoowho1132]

GarageStudio is it really tentacles and better than Tupac 🤤🤣😂

[@ZMonsta88]

His name is xxx-concussion

[@alyssajackson7913]

GarageStudio Fuck him 👊

[@alyssajackson7913]

He doesn't know shit about hip-hop. All his ass does is mumble like we don't know what he's saying

[@7Bambi19]

Yes ma'am for this look hunny! 👏👏👏👏 Giving me African queen tease! Wakanda!

[@yasschick7937]

7Bambi19 was about to say the same damn thing 👏🏾👏🏾

[@7Bambi19]

YassChick Lol! Okay! She lookin like royalty!

[@7Bambi19]

Queen 🙅

[@7Bambi19]

Sisterlock Journey Plain Jane u know u was thinking it! Lol!

[@leahphnx4473]

I thought the same thing. I love it!

[@mrs.kisukeurahara9105]

Aunty Ti deserves her own talk show, love u Ti!!!!

[@NicoleAllwood]

GlitterGlitz SparkleBliss Amen 🙏🏿

[@itsstillmekenia]

GlitterGlitz SparkleBliss I can't wait to be in her audience like 🙋yes this tea is what? Pippin 🔥 hot 😄🙏God willing.. She deserves it 📌

[@chocolaterini17]

They would censor her too much

[@maiajones9765]

She sure does she certainly would be a lot better then that Wendy Williams.

[@leeleedennis9941]

I don’t care about these new rappers they all look they eat drugs for breakfast so there opinions are not valid next case 💅🏽👸🏽✨[wow I didn’t expect this many likes but I’m glad y’all agree]

[@leeleedennis9941]

S B you know it’s true tho, I can’t I’m only 18 and I’m already done with today’s youth 😂😂

[@smilervslovatica]

remember when Miley was acting trashy and "black" using black people and giving the wrong image of hip hop just because she wanted to be in the news everyday,but now is not interesting anymore so she is white American country sweetheart again.. remember when Justin Timberlake humiliated Janet and trashed Prince? what Bruno did ? unlike Justin Timberlake and some white folks he doesn't take credit of everything that prince and Michael did once.. he said that this album was a tribute to his childhood (Mariah, Michael, baby face and in living color) they're right about the color issue but Bruno is working since he has 4 and he is where he is without a super model squad, without beefs and shitting on others careers. leave that guy do his coke and his music.. you're trashing him since he slayed the grammys.. everybody was complaining a few years ago about how underrated Bruno was, don't do to Bruno what they did to Michael.. he is talented and that's it. what about Eminem ? Amy Winehouse? (I love these two good music) Drake? Justin Timberlake? Ariana Grande ? Sam Smith? Mary J Blige put an amazing album out but some folks just support Adele. I really understand the point but Bruno Mars is the least problematic person in the industry.

[@ambrosiaa5556]

Bouta listen to Tupac. I can’t believe the x dude said he’s better than pac. That just breaks my heart. The zan dude looks sooooo nasty 🤢

[@divinitylitty2630]

Chanel Tyler Zan made me so mad bruh

[@fumikoadullaha449]

😡😥I don't even like when Tupac is compared to Biggie ...after all he stood and struggle for this little druggie kid disrespects him TRASH

[@SingingViolet]

So happy we get to see your face on the regular

[@buttercupdabaddieutonium9257]

Khabirah A I agree but I miss the gifs

[@keenya28]

Khabirah A Same here. It’s nice to put a face to the voice. Love her makeup and tops

[@aghasearmyshawolblinkonce8039]

omg when she said if he died, she'd bake a cake, I thought that was way too far. she really shouldn't have said that.

[@jeremyfrancis9883]

That might of came from a place of Hart

[@zmaria739]

AghaseArmyShawolBlinkOnce agreed

[@BrittBrattBossLady]

She should have never thought it. That 0 to a 100 real quick and for no real reason.

[@thenecromancer6617]

thats fucking disgusting

[@likereallystfu]

AghaseArmyShawolBlinkOnce I love her. She’s really bold and honest but yeah that comment was mean and unnecessary.

[@csar7113]

C'mon Kingsley! He's right: if the same people who put forth so much energy in criticizing ONE person's success put that energy into the MANY underappreciated artists we still have out here, there would be an elevation

[@dyanaprinze6wondawoman]

There's footage of Bruno Mars at 3yrs old singing like an old R&B crooner. He came out the womb singing with soul. This is ridiculous. They need to be chasing down that clown Justin Timberfake for that disrespectful "tribute" to Prince.😒

[@e-jaythesupreme1504]

Did you get a new camera Ti? The quality looks much better. Keep it up and continue to build your brand!

[@TrollBot.]

Yes I noticed that too! Her background, the lighting, everything on fleek! Looks so beautiful and professionally unique! :)

[@marlonharrison5511]

Can we call out the Mumble Rappers instead of Bruno Mars.

[@pluto5610]

marlon harrison Especially Tekashi 69!

[@toriaxx8741]

exactly!!! I can't even listen to the radio anymore.

[@robertwright8617]

pluto what?

[@aghasearmyshawolblinkonce8039]

and can we also call out the biggest culture vultures ever like the kardashian-jenners and woahhvicky?

[@pluto5610]

AghaseArmyShawolBlinkOnce They've been called out mad times and yet they're still big

[@bree785]

Better than 2 pac?! Oh my god please take several seats! As someone who grew up during the 2 pac and biggie era, none of the rappers today even come close to them.

[@bobgray6498]

I don't consider what he does appropriation. He isn't quiet about his influences and he is very respectful of the culture, or at least seems that way. We need to figure out the difference between an artist being influenced by a culture and outright stealing it. There's a difference between him and someone like a Miley Cyrus who put down hip hop when she was done using it to sell records, or like a Justin Timberlake who will clearly take from black culture yet will disrespect it at the same time

[@jess.p]

Off topic but Rita ora is the biggest appropriator. SMH she's full Eastern European and I'm waiting for the day she gets called out

[@Whateverusay704]

jessica yesssss👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@deangelo453]

Facts asf

[@rue2280]

Rita Ora still makes music?

[@Bryn_Raschaul]

Messiah ThomaZ how

[@The_Prodigal_Daughter]

She's only had like 2 songs lol

[@shauniellereid6937]

Bruno Mars has always been giving props to black music. If you listen to him talk about his childhood and how he got to where he is now you will hear him mention a lot of black artists. Bruno has been doing hip hop/Rnb/doo wop for a long time it's what his music is about so I honestly think that the only thing he did wrong was promote Cardi B

[@tiffanyranson5992]

before or after praising and imitating Elvis? He is a created player.

[@shauniellereid6937]

Ummm no he is a created Legend

[@villainlyfeinc.204]

The only issue I have with what Seren said was that she was putting a lot of the responsibility on Bruno, and while I agree he is complicit because it’s his music, i feel like he is more a symptom than the actual problem. Black music is becoming white-friendly, and record labels are embracing this movement because it taps into a whole-new, huge market. There are so many talented, black independent artists who aren’t getting nearly enough recognition. I think black people should be putting just as much energy, if not more energy, into supporting black artists as we put into abhorring appropriating artists.

[@nikeshamorrow9444]

Villainlyfe Inc. A lot of the current black artist are to vulgar and disrectful. I have kids. Usher had a song talking about ghetto D. Chris Brown sing about sex, drugs, acohol, and strippers (these hoes ain't loyal). Bruno mars music is more digestible to the ears.

[@naomilikayi5927]

The promoted black artists are the ones that are vulgar. This is what the record companies/radio stations want you to think about all black artists so they can push the masses towards racial ambiguous artists like Bruno. There's plenty of black artists who can be sensual without vulgar and a lot of them are independent or not heavily promoted.

[@johnP0908]

I don't think he's a symptom, look at the way people wear, they style is returning from the previous decades, now look at Bruno Mars and The Weekend's music for example(I know The Weekend's an Ethiopian, but that's beside the point.), they literally sounded like they were from the 80's and 90's era. nostalgia was also a probable key player why their music was likable compared to other artists.

[@QueenChioma]

LOVE THIS BACKGROUND & THIS QUALITY OF THE CAMERA!!!! I love the come up Ti!! I agree with everything you said!

[@Afrobabe]

The face of Asian culture is Asian. The face of white culture is white. The face of Mexican (yeah I no it's not a race) culture is Mexican. But when blacks desire the face of black culture to be black we "hatin" . I call bullshit. No this doesn't take away from any race of person's talent but it seems like what's culturally for each group is for themselves but what's culturally for black is for everyone. But that's what black people get for being so damn inclusive and elevating other before themselves. 🐸🍵

[@thenecromancer6617]

ive never heard someone say any of that

[@taters2883]

Your so right. We're always worried about being politically correct and trying not to hurt anyone's feelings by always including everyone in everything we do!

[@emmapatgguerrero]

But that's not true either the faces also tend to be mixed more European. We non white people have this issue :/

[@spacebabyksworld]

Purple Water Well said, your comment makes total sense. We are only speaking on America, we don't know as a whole how music is affected around the world

[@KayBeOnline]

Afrobabe Never thought of it like that but that's really kinda true

[@goldenlady3659]

No Bruno is different. When people like the kardashians borrow from our culture they bullshit it and act like there the ones who started the trend when people have been doing it for years before them, unlike Bruno who actually acknowledges that there were people who had been doing this type of music before him and pays homage the right way.

[@Treasure-yf5up]

Golden Lady in deed

[@kyliCatherine1]

The term “cultural appropriation” is waaay too overused nowadays. Bruno Mars is NOT culturally appropriating. When people use this term for every little thing, it takes away from the real meaning of it. Then when someone really IS appropriating a culture, no one will take it seriously anymore.

[@MilliesVlog]

yup nobody wants to hear about sex all the time

[@andreadaniels8484]

POINT, BLACK, PERIOD... Black people are TIRED of being overlooked for what we CREATE and BRING TO THE TABLE..We're TIRED of being taken advantage of.. We're TIRED of being MOCKED, DEGRADED, and Looked DOWN upon for some things in our culture yet.. the Kardashians and Danielle Brigolies becoming praised and getting RICH off of our creativity and brilliance. Charles Williams said it BEST on this thread..." Ppl want their black culture from non black people" and we need to realize this and REACT to THIS... ( I swear, I'm beginning to believe that integration was the WORST thing that could have ever happened to us)

[@e-jaythesupreme1504]

Tell it TI!!! R&B music is losing it's identity, Passion, Creativity !!!

[@clintjohnson1023]

Edwin Sherman it really isn't,y'all aren't finding the right artist,even the older artists who have music currently,y'all barely support.The talent is there.And 90s rnb wasn't classy,there was barely any sexual imnuendo in the 80s but 90s was full of vulgarity in rnb.

[@Covers-and-Commentary]

clint johnson no it wasn't lmao u had songs like: Tender love, Can you stand the rain, Aaliyah, xscape, Troop, Zhane, Envogue, Destiny's Child, etc. None of them were vulgar I'm not sure if u actually listened to 90s R&B. 🤔🤔

[@e-jaythesupreme1504]

I personally, support older artist when they come out with new music. I purchase Faith Evans newest CD, TLC's Last CD and The Times "Original 7 CD. I support but thee majority of the black population doesn't and once again, a lot of great talents don't get BIG Promotions!

[@e-jaythesupreme1504]

Plus Clint Johnson, yes, the 90's were vulgar but the sound was much better.

[@Kelaine72]

Maybe y'all aint listening to the right stations. You have artists like Tank, Johnny Gill, Kem and Maxwell still making music. They all have great music out right now. Stop trying to find something to be a victim from.

[@camillejackson4658]

Hip hop is really being white wash and your not the first KZbinr to say that. You speak the true no matter what that's why I would never unsubscribe.

[@camillejackson4658]

Shanette Quao The thing is people nowadays don't think or their not research minding they just go with what they are told or only realize it when it becomes popular discussion.

[@bostontmi1267]

Wait, so Bruno dont corn row his hair, he don't even try to say he is trying to be someone is is not, he has stayed the same since day one. Never changed his look, plays instruments, can dance his ass off, and then u got some dude saying he is better then 2pac who was a poet. 🤔Hmmm y'all hold this 🇱...gravine

[@JamieBleu]

So he didn't put some spray in his hair to turn his hispanic 2c to 3a into a 4a afro for Finesse OK

[@bostontmi1267]

go to his very first video he had the same hair he has always had curly hair, i can see ur not a fan or u would of known that so i will not debate this with u ....but when u have tight curls like he has and wake up with no product...u get a fro from the curls not being tammed!

[@4evaItachisgirl]

Ummm u clearly didn’t watch the 2 Grapevine videos did u. Here, hold this L

[@bostontmi1267]

4evaItachisgirl ah yeah saying they would bake a 🍰cake if he died good table talk, let me guess ur 22 thuggish who listens to that mubble 💩shit let me guess u think 2pac and biggie suck and that mexico wanna be rapper is better as he said GTFOH! ***HOLD THIS 🇱+🇱+🇱***THANK YOU ***👅

[@bostontmi1267]

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[@missfaithbutterfly4501]

Ti I totally agree when you say you're tired of the Vulgar R&B. I don't need to hear raunchy vulgar lyrucs talking about beating up the p**sy, sing about what we're doing "after the dance" like Marvin Gaye and use some damn imagination

[@danilejai7801]

Miss Faith Butterfly Marvin Gaye is predominately a soul singer, it’s a different genre than R&B. Soul songs handle sex and sexuality differently than R&B. Marvin Gaye is my favorite singer.

[@Peachiebun]

Miss Faith Butterfly I totally agree. No one makes music sensual anymore. There is no Black Street-“Don’t Leave” and “Before I Let you go”, Jodeci, Toni Tony Toné etc. that music made you wanna find love and hold it tight!! 🙌🏽

[@ashleyf423]

What happened to love songs? Its like you soft for admitting you love a girl nowadays. You gotta go to other artists to hear that. For example Ed Sheeran kills at love songs.

[@TheLoveweaver]

Dani Le'jai is it? Doesn't R&B stand for Rythym & Blues? I don't get the distinction or I should ask if you could elaborate on the distinction.

[@shutit4024]

Miss Faith Butterfly Rihanna and (signs) beyonce have some music from their album that have that soul in their music not all but some not all music is about it

[@ginalienn1112]

I love the Grapevine. They always know how to speak intelligently about controversial topics

[@MonaMi8]

Gina Lienn have they learned to stop talking over each other?

[@anniciamcfadden8726]

the reason why i cant watch the Grapevine. they talk over each other and its soooo annoying

[@anniciamcfadden8726]

their earlier videos were unwatchable to me regardless of the content. But their Bruno mars episode is good though, im glad they have improved the quality of their videos.

[@Covers-and-Commentary]

Ramona Mi lmaaooo

[@_Milcah_]

Same. I love when black people come together and have intellectual conversations

[@aidam.3845]

I love when she does her flashbacks 😂☕ 👀 #donttryher

[@BEEFjrMUSIC]

"alot of us are putting out mediocre work" FAAACCCCTTTSSSSS as a music producer I see this ALLLL TTTHHHEEEE TIME

[@annaleesfantasy]

Racially ambiguous is the new "Black"... farewell full blacks lol we are endangered people...

[@brendafromthebay1522]

annaleesfantasy man lol

[@cosmictraveler1146]

annaleesfantasy There's a whole continent of africans. Please stop.

[@annaleesfantasy]

Sintelle 😑 when you don't get sarcasm...

[@scorpionlz]

🤣😂

[@sexyEros]

Agreed

[@ChastityJaye]

Who is this Lil Xan child??? He need to be in somebody church. I hope I spelled his name right, he wasn’t worth a Google search 😂

[@AmorieAudrey]

ChastityJaye 💀💀💀💀😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@ambitiousstarr9208]

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[@ladydede88]

😂😂😂😂

[@youtubecompilations6731]

ChastityJaye he likes being called Diego now

[@uniquelife777.]

lol you low-key rhymed!

[@bossyb9852]

The fact that you said you tracked down the artist, made sure she gave permission & was also compensated says a lot about your character. I watch the videos often but today I just subscribed simply because of that. I also agree with your feedback on the Bruno Mars issue.

[@angelharmony1144]

Did this lil boy(triple x) say he better than Tupac??? 😂lmao he wish he had as much talent in Tupac's pinky. Triple X you're a joke😂😂

[@tperk915]

My research paper was on Colorism and how the mass media affects the African American community. Bruno and Cardi cannot be blamed for their success in Hip Hop/R&B. The media plays a huge part in how things are perceived and accepted. These 2 artists are considered safe for crossing over into many racial cultures. They are also 2 very talented individuals.

[@88fishsticks88]

Totally agreed. Call out everyone!!. Folks mad the album he dropped was fire. Point blank period. It was legit old school r&b soul. He’s not doing anything wrong. He wasn’t trying to “act” black.

[@mariajones9102]

Fish sticks diamonds Shine Let alone, he's only doing what he already knows and was raised with.

[@Dymonde90]

I could see if he was talking down about the culture then turning around and making it benefit himself. I would define that as cultural appropriation. Am I appropriating Latin culture when I dance the salsa even though I’m full black? 🤷🏾‍♀️Where do we draw the line?

[@JamieBleu]

Salsa is black dance and music that came with slavery in Latin America . Much of traditional hispanic/native music and dance have been wiped out of Latin America when they purposely mixed with white people in order to "better the race" but the power of black music is so crazy that it transcends time. It doesn't die. It simply gets stolen by the dominant society and then black people create something new and the cycle continues.

[@cemirla6039]

Bruno mars has not once.. not credited black americans

[@cemirla6039]

Also people need to remeber that its called cultural apporiation and not racial appropriation... so you being black wouldnt even be the issue here if there was one but you not being latino/part of that culture would be

[@kesiahcoco8741]

cemir la please don't talk on things you know nothing about. Bruno Mars has credited many black artist I mean damn he thanked people like babyface in his GRAMMY speech . He has always shown appreciation to black people and the culture. He has done more for the community than some of your fav black artists. Go read his interview with magazines and you'll see that he does credit black people.

[@jashirapeterson1470]

Lmao try again.salsa originated in africa.

[@thinkingoutloud3358]

Absolutely, Brüno is super talented and hell yes I can play his music from start to finish and LOVE it! The vulgarity can definitely take several seats, but in the meantime I’ll keep tuning in to Bruno.

[@feeniix6]

Im here for the Grapevine. Been subscribed from the beginning. I love Seren. I just wish people would watch the full video and not just the snippet.

[@hiimanhuman]

He gives credit to black people for his music so he's not stealing anything

[@vpjuicee321]

Well said. Its a shame becuz everyone wants to be us. They want bigger lips, bigger butts, darker skin and kinky hair. My friends and i have been saying this for years. The music industry loves R & B however they dont want "us" to sing it they want Elvis, Justin Timberlake etc Matthew Knowles mayed a bold statements about Beyonce's success basing her success on her light skinned. Sad but so true. We ostracized our own people by the color of their skin. This not only goes on in music but sports as well. We no longer hear behind every successful black man is a black woman. Anytime a white woman can impersonate a black person, teach African studies and asssume a black IDENTITY then we have serious issues in 2018. Racism amongst our people still exist.

[@diamonique7741]

Nobody is aiming to get "black skin", tan if anything and I don't see anybody trying to get kinky hair either. Black people need to stop claiming these things. I don't see Latinos saying "White people want to be us because they tan and blacks want to be us because they bleach". Latinos have full lips and big booties as well (Jennifer Lopez, Sofia Vergara, Selena Quintanilla, etc) even the ones with no black ancestors.

[@diamonique7741]

I'm sorry but not all Latinos have black ancestry, specially not in the south where people like Shakira and Sofia Vergara are from. Selena Quintanilla has no black ancestry either...

[@amdman4you]

V P/JUICEE is very true I'm sorry even is Bruno not doing cultural he is still not black and the sad part is that if he look obviously black then they won't pay the mind

[@diamonique7741]

People need to stop complaining about Bruno and buy their faves records so THEY can be on top of the charts. The thing with people is they have this "there can only be ONE mentality" so instead of supporting female rappers like Remy Ma, Cupcakke, and even Azelia Banks (who's problematic but talented) they chose to say "Nicki is the only queen so f*ck the rest" thus Nicki is the ONLY representative for female and now Cardi is as well (both light skinned). They continue this patter trying to sabotage Ashanti, Keri Hilson, Keyshia Cole, etc because "Beyonce is allowed to be the only queen". YOU are hurting these talented people and then turn around and complain about how "only light skinned women make it" or "non black people are replacing us". Maybe support young black starlets like China Anne McClain and Skaii Jackson instead of checking for people the Kardashians all the time.

[@bitchidontcare.com2023]

SpillTheTea What’s funny is that same panel of pro blacks, will no longer go and support a Ashanti, Keri, or Keyshia, and so many more who have. as they would say “Fallen off” but will be quick to bash the mainstream media for not representing them

[@diamonique7741]

+Amormi87 Exactly, independent artists like Ashanti also deserve support.

[@sexychocolategoddess2821]

SpillTheTea who tf would support cupcake?? Are you out of mind this girl degrades herself, shes a disgrace.

[@diamonique7741]

+Kendreya Howell Alright but there's still plenty of artists that should be supported.

[@crystalblake8096]

People spend entirely too much time worrying about the wrong shit

[@goddess1282]

Crystal Blake social media get on my nerves we need to elevate our community you see a problem solve it tbh

[@RoseyF]

*Yes, yes he is.* I could care less about said “black ancestry” he’s Filipino , yet his whole persona is black! The music industry is literally pushing out any and everyone who looks darker away from what they created. Yet, there are black musicians who dont even get that much exposure. I blame the fans and social media, especially black people *WHO CLAIM & SUPPORT EVERYONE BUT THEIR OWN* 🙄

[@tututhebudgie2154]

Rosey Florestal Filipino*

[@tayloralliease1473]

Rosey Florestal it's always been that way , still is . Non blacks thriving off Black Culture without necessarily being Black

[@MrBrannew20]

Rosey Florestal yes sista speak that shit. We gotta take a stand or these ppl gone keep using us

[@RoseyF]

Mareia Cunningham Haha! I just fixed it, thank you.

[@MsSmith-cf6sh]

Rosey Florestal His half Filipino

[@Allofsitesjannacanadaorerror60]

BOOOOOOOOOO NO ONE IS BETTER THEN 2PAC

[@Allofsitesjannacanadaorerror60]

NO ONE!

[@ferinafenty993]

Janna GriveoCanada biggie i

[@chamgra]

Facts

[@BEEFjrMUSIC]

facts

[@Sylvia518]

Excuse you BIGGIE IS!!! Tupac didn’t grow up hood he raped it biggie actually did! Tupac mom was rich so he didn’t struggle foh

[@theword2973]

I agree with alot of what you said, but I want to point out that TheGrapevine TV isn't just "a company" sponsoring round-table discussions about random topics. It's a platform that, for over 4 years, has given Black Americans, and Africans of the disapora room to speak on racial issues that affect us. They have discussed everything from colorism, to police brutality, to misogynoir. It just so happens that popular culture IS racial and DOES affect us.

[@MsHardy-df8hx]

TrentsJam I will be tuning in to them!

[@LovelyDance1987]

I love the grapevine !

[@everybodysux4997]

I agreed with everything that you said. I think a lot of people are misconstruing what cultural appropriation. I also find it strange that all of these black Mumble rappers and R&B singers that put out the same sounding music don't get called out but when a white or non black person puts out the same music it's a problem. That baking a cake comment was so fucked up and tacky. I've never heard Bruno Mars use the n-word or slander black women in the way these rappers do today and he has definitely always paid his respect. When words like C/A are tossed around the meaning gets lost

[@crystalmiller9209]

Ohh Casheyana Amen. I thought he was mixed and Cardi B. I feel safe about most of Bruno music is great for my young kids to listen to. Bruno don't really use cuss words or slang words. I love his music. I don't give a care what race he is. You can tell in his music who influenced him and he says it all the time. Nobody said anything about Lisa Lisa and the Cult Jam. Debarge. Why bring this up? I don't understand it. Blacks need to go back to use your intellect by using intelligent words. What I mean by that is stop talking about having money sex cars and any other materialistic things. Talk about how to better your community. Talk about realistic things in life that others can relate to. Just a thought.

[@candicewhigham858]

I was kinda offended by the little boy saying he was better than Tupac. What??? PAC has been dead for over 20 years but his music and message is still relevant. Have no idea who the kid is.

[@JoAnnaTheSoulStringerJohnson]

Just a few things... 1. Are we still not understanding the difference between cultural appropriation and appreciation??? I don't care who you are and what race you are in the music world, were all influenced by someone else. That influence is called appreciation... Not appropriation. Especially when you mention your influences without hesitation. 2. Why are we calling everyone of a lighter hue racially ambiguous??? Just stop it!!! Being mixed doesn't make you automatically racially ambiguous. Being light skinned doesn't and has never made you racially ambiguous. If you're a lighter skinned black person and your features are clearly that of a black person, you're just a lighter skinned black person. Your not racially ambiguous at all UNLESS you can pass for another race without question. If you're of another race and someone simply doesn't know your race, it still doesn't make you racially ambiguous. 3. If you're going to consider yourself culturally awake "woke", you should probably not be sleep walking your way through this life. You'll only sound ignorant and uninformed. So why is that chick willing to celebrate someone's demise? The disrespect is real, yet I'm betting she wants her opinion respected. Go figure. Love you Ti!!! You look Marvelous!!! Let me go place my orders before you shut it down and run out! 😍😁😁

[@a.d.w8385]

JoAnna Johnson Yeah. All I'm hearing is basically he's not full black or even half or a quarter so he cant sing black music. That's all I'm hearing. He does benefit from his light skin and being racially ambiguous but that doesn't mean he cant do it. It means that blacks need to step up in music and labels need to include black people and make an effort to promote good black artist and not these horrible rappers and R&B faux singers.

[@bu_taay769]

Yup 👏👏👏👏 this crazy lady 🤣🤣

[@JoAnnaTheSoulStringerJohnson]

Sam LSD No. I talk like a grown up... An elder who knows better. Some people waste their time on unnecessary madness. As a musician, I know we all have been molded and influenced by someone else's style. That will never be cultural appropriation. And if you don't own a dictionary like we did back in the day, you can easily look up the definition of ambiguity online. People today use the term racially ambiguous to loosely in my opinion. Furthermore, speaking with intelligence and an opinion has nothing to do with race. Check yourself!

[@lolidc7540]

Bruno Mars is not black at all. I love him, and he definitely shows his appreciation for black culture and I absolutely love his music. However, that being said, her saying he was racially ambiguous wasn't because he isn't fully black because he isn't black at all. He is a mixture of ethnicities which is why he could be considered racially ambiguous. His name is Peter Gene Hernandez, he is Puerto Rican, Filipino, Ashkenazi, and a little bit of Spanish. That is why she is calling him racially ambiguous, not just because he is light skinned.

[@JoAnnaTheSoulStringerJohnson]

Tamarrah Cherry while I partially agree with you I stated I was tired of the overuse of the term in general. I stand by that. Furthermore, you have two parents. You can only be part of two. Different nationalities can be part of your heritage but you personally can only be part of your father and your mother. For instance, my son is black, he's married to a young lady who is Panamanian and black; (her Mom is Panamanian and her Dad is black. ) My grandchildren are black. Period. Although my relatives are Bahamian, they wouldn't be Panamanian, Bahamian, Black and Spanish. Spanish is a language, not an ethnicity. Regardless of their names. They are just black. No disrespect to you.

[@lamejor19]

Tekashi69 is a disappointment to Mexicans. We don’t even talk about him. 😂

[@MelaninGold]

I'm a big Bruno Mars Fan. Bruno Mars constantly pays homage and gives much respect to black musicians of the past. His most recent album is on point.

[@ExtraChocolate80]

He reminds me of a young version of Prince lol

[@IslaSkye123]

ExtraChocolate80 Same

[@arielalysse6074]

The difference between Bruno Mars and other "non black" rappers is that Bruno Mars is creative, talented, and respects everyone. These so called hard rappers nowadays are just looking for a quick paycheck. They don't respect the fine art of music. Back in the 90s and early 2000's, you got called out for being fake and that was your career. Nowadays, you can act hard all you want to and everyone finds you hot. Smh.

[@UCarr26]

Are y'all gonna elevate Luke James? No. Are y'all gonna elevate Jesse Boykins III? No. Are y'all gonna elevate anyone that's black "enough" for you? No. So STFU or buy something. Be happy that male R&B even has a true superstar. True R&B listeners are just happy somebody winning with that artistry and on the airwaves. That's the boat I'm in. R&B doesn't have the following that it once had so a win is a win in R&B.

[@ethlomar]

That XXXtentacion guy did NOT just say he is better than Tupac! Meanwhile I don’t even know one song of him. Have all the seats you can have, lil zero-hits-no-influence rapper! How disrespectful!

[@imjustezzy2076]

But yeah he’s pretty trash

[@Msrbradford1983]

I couldn't get into the video because I feel like there more people who are doing this and disrespectful to the culture. At least Bruno Mars has stated in interviews and in his Grammy speech that his influences were black artists. Being light skinned and/or multiracial helps you, but artists should appreciate and respect the culture.

[@ericatheempress6698]

Same I noticed he is always includes black dancers in his video and he's influenced by micheal Jackson for years now all of a sudden it's cultural appropiation.

[@MrEvldreamr]

Erica The Empress It's crazy isn't It? This was never an issue prior to 2010....

[@reginawilliams5706]

Hey Ti❤😍 , i feel like black culture is being practiced and represented by people who aren't even black

[@kendrasrealityshow7301]

Regina Williams does it matter if they black or not ?

[@blackheartcardigan]

PoundKayke 1.0 Yes, because people are quick to tell black Americans we don't have a culture. When it's really non-black Americans using our culture as a fad/trend or for a profit because we try to be so inclusive. I mean that for the diaspora and everybody else.

[@blackheartcardigan]

Sena miller he does pay homeage

[@blackheartcardigan]

Is that you in your profile picture? You're not African-American, but...

[@kendrasrealityshow7301]

Sena miller I’m a brown skinned Puerto Rican 🤷‍♀️just like there light skinned black people, if I was black I wouldn’t be ashamed of saying it

[@sadiM653]

It's not the fact that he does not give credit, the real take away is that Bruno Mars and non black/ racially ambiguous artists are being used as the face of black music. It is the erasure, they would not give a black bruno mars a chance whether if he did not curse or use vulgar language, that is the difference. So we are supporting our own erasure, that is the issue. Black people should not have to work twice as hard to stay relevant in our own genre of music. We need to stop letting these people in to take over, because they are being used against us.

[@LovelyBEAMBY]

But people of different ethnicities that are raised within a certain culture are not allowed to want to make the kind of music they were raised on? 🤨 I was raised listening to biggie smalls and bob Marley, Marvin Gaye and al green. Etc.. My family’s heritage is Puerto Rican but we were born and raised in the Bronx so the culture of music, and of our environment we also carry that in us. It’s not that we are acting black we are behaving like what we are raised around what we see in our community which is also apart of our culture

[@tiffanyranson5992]

+Elle D well said.

[@vercelery1]

I agree

[@beeniebird6632]

He's better than Pac? Where.....?

[@Neeshpeesh123]

I love the Grapevine. Been watching them for a long time. I think the video made a LOT of valid points. I’m not a big Bruno Mars fan. His music is good but let’s not front. He’s “white folk friendly” and that has A LOT to do with why his career is as successful as it is.

[@meaty2953]

Neeshpeesh123 I get what you're saying, but is his ambiguity his fault?

[@clintjohnson1023]

Neeshpeesh123 nobody wants to say that.He is what they call "commercial"

[@Neeshpeesh123]

ME it’s not his fault. But is it a black persons fault when they can NEVER win album of the year? Reach the same levels of success in the industry? It’s not about fair but it’s definitely fucked up.

[@Neeshpeesh123]

clint johnson call it whatever you want. It’s whatever it is that makes it easier to digest or what is palatable for white folks. It’s all the same to me. Black folks are the tastemakers, the creators, the beneficiaries of black music and culture, yet we can’t get win awards, make the mega millions whites and non blacks do while we living?? We know it’s not cuz they don’t like the sound. They don’t like the package. Smh

[@meaty2953]

Neeshpeesh123 I'm not saying that it's their fault, but what I'm getting at is that why are we blaming him for something he can't control? Also, w/ the awards deal, isn't it already known that award shows prefer ambiguous artists, so should we blame the artist or the award show? I know it's not fair, but why aren't predominantly black award shows promoting such artists? I think we're shifting blame and sending hate to the wrong one(s).

[@bitchidontcare.com2023]

If all you have to be is racially ambiguous to boost your career or have a long lasting career, you wouldn’t have so many artist of that nature falling off or never reaching a certain level of success to begin with, Mya was very successful and falls into that category of racial ambiguity, and where is she now?, then you have artist like Tinashe, this girl keeps trying to get to that ultimate level of success, and she still hasn’t after many years, Cardi B is just popping plain and simple, why do people keep discrediting her?

[@boldbabez3985]

Bruno Mars always pays homage to black culture and music which a lot if not most black artist have forgotten... now they're mad....if there wasn't artist like Bruno this generation wouldn't know what great r&b was...nor who were most of the artist of that time....and that's sad....

[@TheWonder96]

Black ppl are looked down at the most, but everybody be quick af to appropriate our shit. Just let hiphop and r&b die. We are the culture. R&b, soul, hip-hop, rock n roll, and jazz RIP. We need to reinvent ourselves once again for the millionth time...

[@TheWonder96]

Mackeyjay Lozada when did I ever say "black men"?? and I wasn't talking about in the music industry.

[@g.k.6807]

Your flashbacks make me happy. Negrodamous strikes again.

[@Lovelyti_TV]

yassss!!

[@03lisajade]

lovelyti2002 ✌🏿

[@g.k.6807]

lovelyti2002 I don't know how you do it, but it's like you've got a badass crystal ball. And we're here for it. Much love & support.

[@latiajohnson8887]

I think people are confused on the definition of culture appropriation. So by definition Teena Marie , Em , Robin Thicke , as well as many others are appropriators as well.

[@notthestereotypeatall9816]

Latia Johnson Thank you! That was my question. When did this start? Michael Bolton, Joe Cocker and there is more who sang with soul.... Back then this wasn't a discussion.....

[@amey9832]

I'm hella! Late but I still show up for TI 💖💖💖hey sippers 🤗

[@micah459]

Bruno Mars respects the culture and credits a lot of the greats so it's not culture Appropriation. He's not claiming or acting like he started shit and he also doesn't do our genre one day and then disrespects the next unlike many white artist black people still support.

[@micah459]

Narc 1820 That's not his fault though. He's making the music he grew up on and he's stated his ethnicity multiple times. It's his fault people are ignorant and don't look up his ethnicity.

[@MsVitaD]

1)Ti deserves to be apart of Grapevine, actually in fact she deserves to have her own tv show. 2) I give up on this generations rap music. 3) I'm so close to giving up on R&B as well, but I have hopes that SZA will make a change, although I desperately miss Brandy, Erykah Badu, India Arie, etc. I just miss the old neo soul type of R&B. 4) XXXTentacion, if you don't shut your mumbling ass up, I will call the Migos and tell them to jump your ass again. You are not better than Tupac and you will never be.

[@pluto5610]

Joshua Xxxtentacion screams tho

[@MsVitaD]

pluto, either way it's still untalented and annoying.

[@MsVitaD]

pluto, no where near as good as Tupac.

[@pluto5610]

There's also a lot of good rappers today but they get overshadowed

[@MsVitaD]

pluto, yeah, that's probably true, but Idk many of them, bc I gave up on this generation of rap, however I do like Eminem,Chris Brown and Kendrick Lamar, but my real cups of tea are Nas, Tupac, Biggie, Jay Z and Kanye. These new rappers are absolute trash and I hate that the people on my bus are always blasting there music on the way to school and the way back. It sucks.

[@marinaliteyears]

Yep...Welp lol Black people may have CREATED Ragtime, Jazz, Blues, Rock (Rosetta Tharpe ,Chuck Berry) , R&B..etc. But black people have NEVER OWNED their music. Either because it was stolen or Black people sold out. Nothing wrong with us SHARING our culture with outsiders, but we don't really OWN our culture. Because of this, when we share it, we get nothing in return........Maybe we should create a new genre of music, except this time there needs to be Boundaries, We should have full Control and Respect the Culture.

[@TheMelody15]

Black people we can't complain about things like this when we don't even support more of R&B acts.

[@ginuwinelyloyal3115]

Change is inevitable. I personally don't care about the shade of their skin. If I can take something from the music, then I support it. Bruno Mars is dope. You spoke all facts. I get sick of hearing about popping molly, wet p*ssy and getting high. These folks have no respect for those that paved the way....better than Pac???? Oh no baby what tf are you thinking? Who is he?!?!? 😂

[@candygirl1200]

Ginuwinely Loyal his brain cells are beyond fried

[@ginuwinelyloyal3115]

Candy Girl That's not my point. What he does in his personal life is his business. I dont have an opinion of that 1 way or the other. He can get through 5 or 6 songs without the foolery we have going on today. I can listen to his cd all the way through without needing a shower afterwards.

[@ursulahoward196]

I like Bruno Mars music I haven't heard any of the latest R&B music I'm from the old school I like the 60s 70s and 80s where I grew up and the 90s music

[@kazzuo32]

Ursula Howard that was the best music, it was about have fun or really romantic👌👌👌

[@ursulahoward196]

a kazzuo that is so true my nieces and nephews they in their teens and they think their music is on top of the world and I'll be telling him I said that's not music I tell them listen to my music the music that I grew up on and you see the difference

[@aghasearmyshawolblinkonce8039]

i agree. Even though i'm a late 90's baby (born in 96), the best time when R&B and hip hop music was good was during the 90s and early to mid-late 2000s. The music now is just vulgar but I do like listening to bruno mars kendrick lemar and SZA.

[@marzblaq7267]

Amen! Honestly Bruno Mars is that breathe of fresh air that music needs. If artists are just going to abandon or trash genres that had so much more substance, somebody has to bring it back. Bruno can keep doing his thing. 😄

[@shesomadeline]

Ursula Howard saaaaaammeeee 😍👌🏼❤️

[@123CREATIONS]

Now look Ms.Ti you look soo freaking beautiful its not even a game!!! I really love that look that outfit everything!!!😍🤗😘😍🤗😘

[@GarageStudio7]

I wonder why many of those tweets were saying that "Bruno Mars just wants to sniff cocaine" 😂

[@4evaItachisgirl]

GarageStudio because he used to do cocaine. He has an interview about it...and a mugshot from when he was arrested for it lol 😂

[@diamonique7741]

He quit though, cocaine wasn't gonna get him anywhere...except jail.

[@ShiningLight411]

A bathroom attendant ratted him out for sniffing cocaine in a bathroom stall. I also believe that his song called “Gorilla” was his description of how it felt to be on cocaine.

[@nicollettes4665]

4evaItachisgirl Damn I didnt know that.

[@TheBrightred601]

He actually says something about doing cocaine in his song Gorilla.

[@kanamekiyru]

And I love when you do flashbacks cause you the only KZbinr that brings them receipts

[@Lovelyti_TV]

FACTS!!!!!😍

[@emmpeccableentertainment]

Ti thank you for always being fair and balanced. The appropriation is real but if we’re not putting out good work, we can’t blame anyone but ourselves

[@BuffyNoir140]

Emmpeccable Eats and not supporting the RB singers. Instead it's the no talent azz shaking, disrespectful ones who gets attention from Black folks

[@hayleymyles6823]

No let's get this right white music managers will.not let the decent black music shine...they want to portray Black people in a certain way...and let's remember it's the white male teen that's mainly buying this shit.....

[@t.y.6640]

Hayley Myles exactly cuz artists like Dee-1 and J-Jon are hella talented and just what the music industry needs but since they aren't negative influences they get no shine.

[@boldbabez3985]

Emmpeccable Eats that's facts!!!! 💜👑💜

[@cookiebookie456]

Ti you keep killing it with these looks🔥 hair and makeup is poppin😍👌🏾

[@Pierregoddess13]

Ppl always in they feelings, always love your truth girl.

[@dreamlovermimi9458]

these "rappers" are really saying they are bigger and dont wanna be compared to Tupac, Biggie and NWA????? i dont even listen to much of tupac/biggie/ NWA and I STILL KNOW how Pioneering they were! But also, I think Bruno Mars is part Afro-Boricua and I know Hip/hop was created in NYC by black americans and Boricua ppl, then later spread to other cities with big black and latino communities and now every region has their own style. ( compare Chicago's Twista to NYC Biggie) Watch the documentary - From Mambo to Hip-hop- explains this cultural musical mixing. Anyways just my thoughts on this issue with today's "rappers" who dont know anything about anything lol -___-

[@marleystone23]

DreamloverMimi I've said this each state has their own style within hip-hop.

[@shesomadeline]

DreamloverMimi Exactly! Latins are known to have Black DNA, so back then, these two cultures of Black & Latins naturally were magnetic to each other when making music.

[@dreamlovermimi9458]

Sheso Madeline exactly many Latin American musical genres like salsa, merengue, cumbias, son jarochos , bomba, changui, rumba bachata, are heavily west African and Native American influence. That's why it's so natural for USA Latinos to assimilated to black American genres. What u think ?

[@lovelyscorp79]

That lipstick is everything😍😍

[@SirWilliams24]

Okay lovelyti nice background change, nice upgrade. We see you!!!

[@fififresh1246]

For years, until recently I assumed Bruno was black. Allot Puerto Ricans, Dominicans, Cubans are black in race, but have a Spanish culture. What about Bruno isn't black? thick lips, wide nose, brown skin & thick black hair. He isn't dark skinned with coily hair, but neither is Obama & Beyonce. But they're still considered black. I don't think he can appropriate being black when he like Amara Le Negra are clearly black.

[@rachelmwendwa5824]

Fifi Fresh are you mad? His mama is a BROWN filipino, his dad is half white-half puerto rican BIRACIAL. Not all puerto ricans are black, is JLO black then? Girl, other racea have thick lips e.g. BROWN people, have you met Filipinos cause alot of thwm have those features, heck most are darker than alot of black people of african descent. Girl, you're definitely crazy By your damn ass logic then everybody who has brown skin, thick lips and wide nose is black. Therefore, Mindy Kaling is black.

[@ThatGirlJD]

coco chanel That makes no sense, you are influenced by your grandparents directly or through your parents. This man has never denied his heritage. Is he not supposed to embrace the heritage of all four of his grandparents? If not which ones does he get to embrace and which ones does he need to turn his back on? If this is solely about his blackness being American, last time I checked Puerto Rico was still in the US.

[@fififresh1246]

He's 1/4 Filo. Don't assume that Puerto Ricans & even Jews are white. I'm East African (Eritrea/Ethiopia) where the pure Israelites come from- the descendants of King Soloman & they are dark skinned & curly haired people. Everything about Bruno Mars fits a black genome type more than any other. Stop hating

[@Neeshpeesh123]

I love that the Grapevine is having this discussion. I am not against Bruno Mars but I find it disturbing as a black person. There is a LONG history in this country of building things off the backs and hard work of black people and not giving then the power or respect in that field. The world is literally telling us all the time in many ways/industries we love all that you do and have made but we don’t love YOUR BLACK ass. That’s in music, fashion, hairstyles, physical features. Everything. There is a insidious movement that is contributing to the erasure of black people. When you look at traditionally white areas you rarely see non white or others being able to have high levels of success because they keep their shit tight. That’s Hollywood, ballet, country music, and whatever other areas they don’t let black folks into! But nope. Not black folks we say because u pay homage it’s ok and let everyone in to overtake everything we’ve built. That’s not working for me. Sorry.

[@HisWillForever]

Neeshpeesh123 I totally agree I don’t think Black people will get it until white people take over hip hop just like every other genre we created (ie rock, jazz, country music)

[@Neeshpeesh123]

bellcAmiable idk I guess that’s when we try to infiltrate shit like Hockey and whatever else that’s white since we won’t have anything left. We always doing the welcoming and are never WELCOME.

[@lfb08]

You are so right!! Beyoncé performed at the CMA's and country music fans had a huge issue with that. We allow just anyone into our culture. Soon history will be re-written and will say that everybody but us created it and we were the thieves.

[@Neeshpeesh123]

lfb08 I remember that! They dragged Queen Bey for performing one song at the awards show. Could you imagine if she got an award???!!!!!. 🙄 it would have been anarchy! i know country has had a few blacks sprinkled here and there but if they were as welcoming as blacks were I can’t help but think black folks would have tried to get in where they fit in too! But they not having that. 🐸 ☕️

[@Caotic3]

whew, PREACH sis !!!!!

[@OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO]

I think it was a stupid discussion. Everyone has been trying to drag Bruno since the Grammy's. First because he out won women. Now he is getting dragged because people are salty he is successful. Smh. Poor guy.

[@mooret212]

OoOMonkeyCoFreakOoO Yeah I think he is being hated on due to his recent successes.

[@JoyintheA.M]

yasss Ti! Living for the look! Also, my boys Justin J and AdrianXpression were apart of the Grapevine debate. So proud of them!

[@Morgan-go3oz]

I like Bruno Mars. I do think he is for everybody. I do think that people want the black sound but not the black people. I do agree a lot of the black r&b singers are overly sexual and I cant get with it. I’ll just stick to listening to my Sade and Chant’e Moore