The Great Climate Migration Has Begun | Amanpour and Company

The climate crisis is forcing thousands around the world to flee as their homes become increasingly uninhabitable. Abrahm Lustgarten is a Pulitzer Prize-winning environmental reporter and has spent years looking at how climate migration will reshape the world. He speaks with Hari Sreenivasan about his latest project.
Originally aired on May 24, 2021.
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[@davidcoleman757]

Globally, we have done zero planning to deal with this. When migration slams into nationalism it is going to get ugly.

[@chaserofthelight484]

We’re making record numbers of shipments of grain and such to China. I heard China is storing a lot of stuff.

[@1Phedre]

It already has, but it will get worse. It's a true disaster.

[@tantalus5370]

Violence will solve this problem like always

[@TheSateef]

plan all you want but no country is going to accept millions or billions of climate refugees

[@tantalus5370]

@@TheSateef that soylent green movie takes place in 2022, maybe this is where they get their product from

[@nygrl6102]

As George Carlin said, the earth is going to shake us off like a bad case of fleas.

[@cockatooinsunglasses7492]

Yupw

[@topherdean1024]

The last human is going to eat the last cockroach.

[@cameronboyce9027]

Doug Stanhope as well... Bill Burr, lots of good comedians have pointed out human stupidity... Consumerism and the 9 to five lifestyle have ruined the planet... Oh well, I can't change anything... Just do my part

[@nygrl6102]

@@topherdean1024 or vice versa!

[@theeggtimertictic1136]

That's exactly the analogy I thought of yesterday ... It's going to be as easy as a cow swishing flies off it's back ... the Earth knows what it's doing, it's a very clever organism!

[@Daenysthedreamer287]

We’ve known for decades but let denialism and uncontrolled capitalism and consumption lead the way.

[@astraeashaw4768]

what on earth is "denialism"? sounds so stupid.

[@Pcarnevaaa]

Smearing pooooooooo yesssssss Deny it. Yes big f, but okay? Is gooooooooood Major f but is okay because smearing pooooooooooo make all be55wr yesssss

[@lyndamedley4789]

We try to change it. We know who deniers are. Vote blue 2022

[@Son37Lumiere]

@@astraeashaw4768 It's denying irrefutable factual evidence because you don't like it or want to believe it and it's very stupid.

[@joelyazell7380]

It’s all consumption. As we eat these peoples lives to hold on to what doesn’t work. Escapism from capitalism’s toll.

[@copisetic1104]

Southern Utah, Las Vegas, Arizona, Nevada, Southern California are not places you want move to right now. No water and failing farms.

[@linneaharper149]

Are their real estate prices going down... yet??

[@LosPalms]

@@linneaharper149 Most metro areas are still going up

[@topherdean1024]

Real estate musical chairs. Don't wait for the music to start, get out now. Same for coastlines.

[@mclucky7086]

@@linneaharper149 The clock is ticking. Only a 10k increase in 4 weeks.

[@giannidigianni4173]

The people themselves who live in those states could move to other parts of the country becoming themselves climate change migrants

[@TinyDancer888]

There's no where to hide. Everyone will be affected. They're not fixing the problem fast enough and we will all suffer. Greed is the cause.

[@lynfl9814]

The horror our children and grandchildren will see because of our greed driven societies and particularly the very wealthy will be unprecedented.

[@sregan5415]

@@lynfl9814 Makes me wonder if having children is the right thing to do.

[@lynfl9814]

@David K I do just that; in anyway that possible can.

[@skis_injeans]

They need to talk about subsequent fresh water privatization by multinational corporations like Nestle.

[@ChooseCompassion]

In California where we have been dealing with droughts forever fracking and Nestlé both need to stop. It’s absolute insanity to allow both to continue.

[@Ryan-Fkrepublicnz]

try Bechtel.

[@royjacksonjr.4447]

Didn't Nestle kill enough children worldwide with their instant baby formula back in the '70's?

[@ChooseCompassion]

@@royjacksonjr.4447 YES! And they are currently part of the cabal destroying the Amazon rainforest. Personally I boycott any Nestlé product as well as all of their subsidiary corporations and companies. I believe that we vote with our dollars more than we do in the ballot box especially since these very corporations have more control than the puppets in our government .

[@viewmodeimages350]

Nestle is one of the most evil companies known to man.

[@bro7269]

I lived in Phoenix for 2 years and just moved back to the midwest. I had lived next to Lake Michigan for nearly 50 years and one thing I didn’t count on when moving to Phoenix was the lack of water. The water quality was quit bad AFAIWC. It smelled and tasted bad. I didn’t really want to move back here but living next to the lake again gives me some relief.

[@davidlafleche1142]

That's Socialism for you.

[@MG-fr3tn]

It's nothing to do with socialism it's science collaboration auditing intellect. Not knee jerk dismissive triteness go get some surgery or a shot at space were a socity a collective .

[@bayyinahzhaxx7620]

@You Tube I've never seen KZbin in the comment section before.....😶

[@judykinsman3258]

This is such an important subject. Thank you for this reporting. Please keep it up!!

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[@signalfire6]

@@madisonchloe4227 Scammer.

[@Justin666Martyr]

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[@lauramcconney9367]

It's not important unless people who hear this respond with positive personal actions. We all can do something to help each other, not just talk!!!

[@Bareego]

On top of these issues, the decline of the water in the ground that feeds most of irrigated crops in the USA is often overlooked. It's not just about the changes of climate but the effects of large scale farming that uses more resources than can be replenished. This is also already and issue in India and other countries. The first effect most people are going to see from climate change is an increase in food prices.

[@tenderheart7530]

It is one of the biggest issues & certain citizens were allowed a lot of public resources to make their wealth. There has already been a huge increase in food prices. The west has been in a crisis for awhile now. The loss of groundwater is part of the fire problem. There should be water rationing starting now with a board to help decide where the water is needed most. The rationing should continue till the groundwater has been replenished but maybe forever because most of the west is desert anyway. We must change the way we live.

[@alexontheedge]

High cost of food will be followed very quickly by famine--already happening in many places.

[@grannypantsification]

The breadbasket of the US became a dust bowl from over farming in the 30s. My grandmother watched great dust storms enveloping her school.

[@tenderheart7530]

@@pattyayers 👌

[@beth8775]

Food Not Lawns. Anyone with a yard can help by growing some of their own produce. (And do away with HOA's!)

[@donnewton7858]

Expect more videos like this in the future... People get into a rut, thinking that everything will just continue like it is. It won't.

[@kristinab1078]

Good point. Everyone is responsible for daily over consumption. Fresh water is being used like it will be available forever...washing every article of clothing after each use even when it's not needed, flushing up to 2-3 gallons of fresh water down the toilet each time, showering every day and sometimes night, etc. What a shock it will be when some states like CA, NV, and AZ have to start rationing like Cape Town in South Africa in 2018. Lake Powell, which supplies all those states, has gone down dramatically since I first visited over 25 yrs. ago.

[@kareneDallas]

@@kristinab1078 I still see new houses being built with sprinkler systems too. Why is it ok to waste water on a lawn? It’s willful ignorance.

[@mysteryof7]

@@kristinab1078 agreed.

[@jonhennemann4729]

How about population. CA has 8 million in a place without water (29 million in the state) and then everyone is surprised that Lake Mead NV is low as that is where LA gets its water???

[@concerned_2023]

The earth's population has no idea at the potential crises facing them moving forward.

[@Rohit-oz1or]

Hopefully Christiana is doing fine. Wishing her speedy recovery & great health

[@KaritKtana]

This is fascinating and so disturbing. I don't see how we find a way out of this, it's depressing - but something citizens everywhere need to be educated on

[@stephentrueman4843]

All across the world we aren't housing people well at all (empty houses/apartments 'cus the rent is too high) let alone when we need to house millions of climate refugees

[@libelulal6258]

This is global issue and requires a global unified solution.

[@raydavison4288]

The problem will be dealt with when climate change begins to adversely effect the profit margins of the mega corporations.

[@Son37Lumiere]

The solution is pretty easy, the problem is it's unprofitable. The corporations are so greedy and simple minded that they simply don't care until it affects their bottom line.

[@frienddarr182]

Most people just don't want to know.

[@janettehughes1522]

I've also read that drought with resulting migration of rural people to cities instigated Syria's civil unrest . And has created problems in India. It's not just a US problem ! " We are all connected " .

[@Son37Lumiere]

Everything in life is a dominoes effect, people like to think they are their own island but that is a lie we tell ourselves.

[@reuireuiop0]

Syria, the hurricanes, the fires, they're just the earliest of beginnings, not even the opening shots of a movie, just the curtains going up. Beyond 2 degrees warming, things will get grim pretty quick. In general (sub) tropical regions will suffer the most, not nessearily the poorest, much of Aussie will become hardly habitable too. But the weight will be on Africa, Asia & Latin America, and if things don't change, at 3+ degree rise, it will near to impossible for large portions to maintain sustenance agriculture, or to live in those 10Millions+ mega-cities. People will migrate in millions, billions, even. Thats why we mustn't get stuck in doom and no-action if 2 degree goal seems out of reach. All things that can be done to keep us under 3 degree, already are an enormous plus, since they may keep such tropical regions sort of livable. Every gain is a win.

[@tixximmi]

You heard wrong. Syria's unrest is a direct result of Obama allowing Al Quida to thrive in Syria. Nothing to do with weather.

[@boathemian7694]

My libertarian knucklehead friends keep saying how it’s just a hoax, at most plants will grow faster and mocked me for bringing this subject up. I didn’t think it would be noticeable so soon.

[@mk1st]

In the libertarian's world the climate is free to do what it wants.

[@lesscott4301]

Tell them that people grow better with food. So the more food the better??

[@geoengr3]

Plants won't grow faster if the croplands become arid...

[@keyissues1027]

I have libertarian relatives who downplay climate change. Chances are, they didnt read or study this topic. They will be surprised when global crops have become widely scarce. due to extreme climate events, albiet, though, if nothing happens in their own backyard, they'll think that none of it exists.

[@darthvader5300]

LOL! It is not climate change, for climate has been changing since the last Ice Age! The Medieval Warming, The Little Ice Age that followed, The 540 A.D Toba Eruption in Indonesia, etc. In 540 A.D the Japanese Great King wrote food is the basis of the Empire. Yellow gold and 10,000 strings of cash cannot cure hunger. What avails a thousand boxes of pearls to him who is starving of cold? 15:55 kzbin.info/www/bejne/jqHQkqirgteEh7c We are in a transition period of unpredictable fluctuations of temperature and climate extremes and highly disruptive weather of alternating heat-drought and cold-floods before it stabilizes slowly into a temporary normally cool or warm weather followed again by extreme heat and cold, droughts and floods, and then a mini-Ice Age followed by disruptive climates or temporary normal climates followed by a full blown Ice Age. Nobody can predict anything anymore. Our very own military satellites which are far more advance in climate and weather analysis needed by our military in conducting military activities are finding it extremely hard to predict and make a far more realistic weather projection months in advance! This transition period occurs between Ice Ages, and with it's sheer unpredictability of randomly alternating extremely hot and cold climates, alternating extreme floods and droughts, extreme winters and extreme summers, unpredictable rainfall patterns and changing rainy seasons all occurs during in times of wildly fluctuating solar cycles that alternates with no solar activities for most of the year, year after year. All of these things occurs between Ice Ages and are classified as "TRANSITION PERIODS" How unpredictable? We are suffering droughts and floods either simultaneously or alternatingly. In one part of the country severe droughts is happening and in another part of the same country severe flooding is happening, worst is severely high temperatures is occurring in one part while severely low temperatures are occurring in an another part of the country simultaneously. The weirdest is that some parts of country are starting to have springs and summers while other parts are still having heavy and dense winter snow and hail piling up. Storms are becoming unpredictable as well as the seasons and their durations. You can never tell when they will come in and go away, nor can you tell how long or short they will last, you can only hope that you have terraformed your land to take advantage of these problems and turn them into solutions like more dams, catchment and infiltration basins and elevated farming fields between them to guard against droughts and floods. THIS TRANSITION PERIOD WILL BECOME SO UNPREDICTABLE THAT YOU WILL HAVE ALTERNATING EXTREME COLD AND EXTREME HOT WEATHER OR BOTH SIMULTANEOUSLY HAPPENING IN ONE PART OF YOUR COUNTRY AND IN AN ANOTHER PART OF YOUR COUNTRY. THE SAME THING CAN HAPPEN WITH FLOODS AND DROUGHTS. YOU SHOULD HAD DONE PRESIDENT JFK INTER-BASIN NATIONAL WATER TRANSFER PROJECTS IN THE 1960s! THEY WILL SHIFT-TRANSFER SURPLUS WATER TO PREVENT FLOODS TO DROUGHT STRICKEN AREAS AND INTO GIANT CATCHMENT BASINS AND RESERVOIRS AND INFILTRATION CATCHMENT BASINS, DIVERSION CANALS AND SWALES. BUT YOU IGNORED THESE PROGRAMS AND YOU ARE SUFFERING NOW! COLD WAR OR NO COLD WAR, MY GOVERNMENT WARNED YOUR GOVERNMENT SINCE THE 1960s. 1970s 1980s, 1990s. 2000s UP TO 2019 AND NOT ONE ADMINISTRATION LISTENED TO US JUST BECAUSE WE ARE RUSSIANS! Imagine terraforming your farm into long strips of elevated farmlands by digging long and wide and deep canals on both sides of a long and wide strip of land and then dumping the earth in the middle and compacting and stabilizing it. Thus simultaneously creating an elevated farmland 40 to 50 feet or more and having very wide and deep canal catchment infiltration basins for the snow, hail, storm waters, heavy rains to collect into them. And planting survivor plants like horseradish that can cover them all up as a permanent perennial living nitrogen-fixing mulch or as a perennial survivor cover crops against rain and wind erosions and by planting trees to produce the alley cropping effect and to act as wind breaks and snow breaks on your elevated farmlands and around the edges of your canal catchment infiltration basins. The aim is to simultaneously avoid the problems of droughts and floods, and to catch every drop of moisture to allow them to infiltrate into the soil to recharge the underground water aquifers that will be tapped during in times of droughts. The problem is that no present climate models can really predict it at all for all of them were rigged, and the only climate models that are reliable are those based on actual real time and real place solar cycles, undersea volcanic activities, ice core records, soil core records, deep sea bed records, hard rock core records, deep sea volcanic activity records. Fossil fuel burning has nothing to do it with. Natural coal fires numbering in the hundreds of thousands throughout the entire planet has been burning before, during, and after the last Ice Age and a single day's of greenhouse gases produced by them is equal to more than 300 years of industrial revolution! That still does not count the discovered 3 million active undersea volcanoes producing more greenhouses, of which only 300,000 has been properly surveyed. The thing is we must ask the right questions to get the right answers. That subject itself is the key to human survival. HOW LONG WILL THIS TRANSITION PERIOD WILL LAST and how should we re-arrange our agricultural planting patterns and with what crops. And which areas will retain it's original climate or recover their original climate after the transition period is finished and followed with an Ice Age which can either be a mini-Ice Age or a major-Ice age. And measures must be done to ensure the survival of human civilization. And how much time left do we have in order to implement such measures. That is until we added the Milankovitch-cycle and www.larouchepub.com/eiw/public/2007/eirv34n09-20070302/06_709_sci.pdf and Mikhail Budyko, the leading Russian climatologist's scientific works 21sci-tech.com/Articles%202004/Winter2003-4/global_warming.pdf However let’s assume that Budyko has been right and that everything, to the very ocean bottom, will be frozen. Will mankind survive this? I think yes, it would. The present technology of nuclear power, based on the nuclear fission of uranium and thorium, would secure heat and electricity supplies for 5 billion people for about 10,000 years. At the same time, the stock of hydrogen in the ocean for future fusion-based reactors would suffice for 6 billion years. Our cities, industrial plants, food-producing greenhouses, our livestock, and also zoos and botanical gardens turned into greenhouses, could be heated virtually forever, and we could survive, together with many other organisms, on a planet that had turned into a gigantic glacier. I think, however, that such a “passive” solution would not fit the genius of our future descendants, and they would learn how to restore a warm climate for ourselves and for everything that lives on Earth. After this fluctuating global warming and cooling, extreme heat and cold, floods and droughts of unpredictable comings and goings and duration.

[@starlaks588]

They fixed it when people were told to stay home. The sky was so clear, about the clearest I've ever seen.

[@Cookie-ri9pz]

Their are a lot of people in the US that don't/don't want to acknowledge this is going to happen. They just keep hating people that they don't understand and don't look like themselves.

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[@martinbrodie8507]

You are a smart Cookie!

[@buzoff4642]

Simplistic democrat partisan tripe you've swallowed hook, line and sinker. It's the same in Canada, Europe, Japan, Australia. Replace the locals with cheap imported labor. Only in the US does a political party have the gall to blame the supplanted citizenry, with a legion of yahoos endorsing that.

[@oliviachipperfield6029]

Heads in the sand, for sure.

[@Benedicte1ful]

Food production will become bigger and bigger a problem. Cities have been built in some of the best agricultural land and cement doesn’t grow good vegetables.

[@GrandmaCathy]

E actly!!

[@pinchebruha405]

Because the cities want the taxes and they want it from corporate business they dont support local small business god bless america and the almighty profit$

[@cmossman6580]

Yes, especially as we keep producing more and more people while our resources are declining due to us using them up, it doesn't make sense! With the billions and billions of people it's better they live in cities instead of suburbs that eat up the agricultural lands... just keep building higher and higher and higher to house everyone!!

[@GrandmaCathy]

100%

[@sunfish55]

rooftop gardens and indoor aquaculture will be the few options remaining

[@nkjassal]

Very interesting.. I live in Oakland and the wildfires have been on my mind so much this year. Last year was AWFUL.

[@keyissues1027]

We CAN, at least, slowdown the extreme climate impacts. One big way: Dont vote for ANY climate deniers. Why? They are beholden to the Fossil fuel industries that donate large sums of money to GOP campaigns & their votes in Congress

[@signalfire6]

How long do you think your property values are going to hold? Californians have taken advantage of their rising-more-rapidly-than-anyone-else's property values to sell and drive up prices elsewhere. That window may be closing fast as people realize what this very educated man is saying. And if you're a renter? Get trained NOW for a job that will allow you to live anywhere, including as a possible nomad, read Andrew Yang's two books, and prepare for the future. There's plenty of info on what's coming, most will never see it or act on it in time.

[@yvonneplant9434]

CA has fires and where I am we will be dealing with more flooding. I'm talking about Philly where the predictions are that the southern portion will be underwater. The river and creek systems are already creating more extensive flooding where they did not so much a decade ago.

[@vpaczkowski]

@@yvonneplant9434 I'm from Philly too and I'm 47 and I have seen the rise in the Delaware river and all the tributaries. South Jersey is already experiencing sea level rise issues.

[@cindyneeper]

Yes I was born in Oakland and have always been in the East Bay but at 63 am leaving the state

[@Anna-gt3gg]

I live on the southern east coast of Florida and have been hit with an $8,000 annual home insurance premium. This raised my monthly mortgage by more than $200/ month.

[@nesq4104]

Time to move to higher ground

[@krmccarrell]

Holy crap!

[@adrienchandler4906]

@@nesq4104 There is no "higher ground" in Florida. You couldn't pay me to live there.

[@nesq4104]

@@adrienchandler4906 lol. I just left hell hole orlando. I will never make that mistake again. Rather do south Florida if anything but haven't lived there in a decade

[@aquaticborealis4877]

Much of Florida has porous limestone. The ocean will come up from the ground as the ocean levels rise. You would have to be well away from the coast to not be affected. But there’s also the problem of the heat/humidity and wet bulb scenarios where being outside during the day may become intolerable in a few decades.

[@alexontheedge]

If we can build oil pipelines that cross continents, why can't we build water pipelines that transfer water from where there's plenty to places where it is scarce?

[@mrmrmaples]

I was going to say something mildly snarky about the inevitable leaks not causing environmental catastrophe, but the human cost may be much greater...

[@mrmrmaples]

But, we do the same thing already for cattle and crops. 😂

[@mjinba07]

Aquaducts have been around for over 2,300 years and channels and other irrigation systems are very common all over the globe.

[@larrytaylor9954]

@D R What do you suggest we do idiot? Nuke em?

[@fighttheevilrobots3417]

Because Capitalism.

[@emmahardesty4330]

Every one of us is now teetering on the edge. Hard times coming, be as ready as you can.

[@joycehendler5401]

CD j mi

[@davidbeaulieu4815]

I have liver failure anyway so I really don't care

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[@johntrojan9653]

@@davidbeaulieu4815 See ya ! 🥱

[@DavidMortaz]

We have become climate migrants too and will move out of California this year partially due to our fear of massive fires that are impossible to control! The cost of Real Estate which has a ripple affect on all other expenses.

[@kristinab1078]

CA, AZ, NV, and southern UT will also be dealing with water issues in the near future. Lake Powell, one of the major suppliers to that region, has gone down dramatically since I first visited it 25 yrs. ago. I hope the farmers in CA will still be able to make a go of it though b/c they supply so much of our vegetables, fruit and nuts throughout the US. Where will you go?

[@tixximmi]

Not impossible. You have to want to control them first. Get rid of the Government out there. I migrated from CA 20 years ago. My reason was the Government was the problem.

[@jenniferbringman9054]

@@kristinab1078 California needs to build plants to convert ocean water into drinking and irrational water.

[@Jmamelia]

I left Southern OR for that reason

[@DavidMortaz]

@@Jmamelia Even Southern Or is too hot now?!

[@Pooty_With_A_Fat_Booty]

I'm so glad I decided to not bear children. I still could, but I just don't see the point.

[@cmossman6580]

good for you! smart! why would we want to bring innocent children into the hell we've created here; futures looking bleak due to our rampant destruction and use of all resources.

[@JackJones-oq3tt]

Im glad you didnt either.

[@cmossman6580]

@@JackJones-oq3tt very nice. I'm glad I didn't as well, we have enough humans on the planet, I'm taking personal responsibility. you?

[@suburbanhousewife40]

See the movie Idiocracy. Just the first 20 minutes. Then decide if you think the best decision is to put off having children.

[@aRustyPatina]

@@suburbanhousewife40 lol!!

[@13thgenerationamerican51]

I am a recent climate refugee myself. I moved away from the coast for the reasons he mentions. Where I am (after much research) will remain a secret, thank you very much lol.

[@stevewiles7132]

You had to move out so that Obama could buy more coastal property?

[@anastrawberry8047]

Could you tell me which coast you moved out of? Thanks!

[@joanlansberry9160]

I guess you don't want a hoard of people to join you, where ever you went.... I can't say I don't blame you, but later, if not now, your area may see more, lots more climate refugees.

[@vegadog30]

I live in a remote area that has cool summers mild winters and plenty of water. My wife dislikes it but a lot of the reasons i live here have started to play out.

[@lewasil]

Need a room mate?

[@missmodern]

Me too.

[@missmodern]

Me too.

[@spiracle412]

It makes sense to take climate change into account when you decide where to live. If you are lucky enough to get to decide.

[@qbconnect]

And where might that be my friend?

[@SteveNV441]

My family has owned 2.5 acres of pine and cedar forest in N calfornia for 45 yrs. The last 3yrs we have had 20 large trees die. very few before that.

[@t.d108]

Everybody, PLEASE SHARE this link. It is such clear explanation of vital information‼️

[@Tipperary757]

They keep building homes in Arizona despite lack of sufficient water for existing populations!

[@georgefurman4371]

If you knew the availability of water by so many natural ways and by technological capacity you would laugh at some one else saying what you stated. To begin with water being an unlimited natural resource. The water flowing under the desert and the whole riviera of the colorado is hard to quantification but more difficult to see. It is false the idea that we could run out of water. We could run out of willingness. We may ran out of political power to stop the wealthy from making it a more profitable exclusive merchandise. And privatize water as they would love to. But water is more than enough. Greed there is plenty as well And ignorance to think we will be useless to find the water and take it to where is needed. Entire rivers had been moved like the Owens. And the Colorado had been stopped from reaching Mexico. But water there is more than enough.

[@Kindlelover88]

Here in Northern California too.

[@gertrudewest4535]

Magical thinking.

[@georgefurman4371]

@@gertrudewest4535 why?? They are confident in the stability of the economic system. The corporate class investing don't see a problem since they are as well counting on the system to always provide. They don't believe in climate change and think a solution will be found and if not what is government for ??? To bail out the big donor class. To provide what they deny the working people. That is not magical. That is practical common sense in the context of the prowealthy American capitalism. Welfare for the rich is perfectly fine . not so for workers. Pragmatic " free market" thinking and exclusive freedom for the loan approved.

[@georgefurman4371]

@@zezmerelda240 do you believe truly that there is not enough water and technological capacity and knowledge to obtain and find sufficient water ???

[@frankblangeard8865]

I was a 'climate migrant' in 1977. I was in my garden in early May in Massachusetts when it started snowing. Two weeks later I was headed west and have never been back.

[@User-jr7vf]

Do you have some kind of snow phobia?

[@LoudMouthRach]

I've lived in Virginia my entire life. We used to get feet of snow it's only been three decades, we get a dusting if we're lucky now. I want to move north and have for years now. Money honey, the problem is always money...

[@ralphsammis7330]

Great presentation. It shows the complexity of events that cause real survival problems for people/environments.

[@AudioPervert1]

Oh! but these hipster are late and scamming. Pathetic Institutional Late. Way back in 1996, Norman Myers had extensively written and to a large extent warned (predicted) that global warming and devastation of farming land, will cause millions of people to be dislocated, on exodus. The number was approx 12 million in 1998 - Today it is 69 million. By 2025 it will be close to 1% of the world's population.

[@chuckkottke]

A good presentation on a serious humanitarian problem, thank you Amanpour and Company for having an expert in the field of climate migration on the show. The effects in the upper Midwest are significantly less than in places like Guatemala and California, we can handle a modest increase in population, and I count myself as just fortunate to be living in a safe place.

[@maxentropy0305]

Unless we address the issue of human population, the climate migration will intensify. The ever-expanding human population is the root cause of all the climate-related challenges and the geopolitical conflicts that derive from climate change.

[@judyfifield6941]

Finally, overpopulation is mentioned. Let’s talk about the root cause of climate change.

[@kevincrady2831]

"Movement of populations is just plain unsettling." I see what you did there.

[@moyzzhernandez5712]

MIGRATION SHOULD NOT BE ILEGAL THAT IS STUPID, OUR HISTORY HAS BEEN MIGRATION . . . USA POLICY IS STUPID, BUT BUILD THE WALL AND CLOSE IT, I DON'T MIND I'M OUTSIDE.

[@pinchebruha405]

@@moyzzhernandez5712 so has war against ‘the other’ people will fight and the winners will win…time for birth control!

[@bk9852]

This needs to be addressed every day I fear it may be too late Al Gore was right

[@gardy4390]

BK you are right, AL Gore was almost driven out of town ,stoned and shamed, but most of us know now & knew then that he was right.

[@georgegates526]

@@gardy4390 Well. Maybe they chased him out of town because they saw his huge, gigantic, energy sucking house. True, and a little too two - faced for me. abcnews.go.com/Politics/GlobalWarming/story?id=2906888&page=1

[@tixximmi]

He's been wrong on everything. He said Earth was going to be destroyed in 10 years from Global Warming. That was 17 years ago. It's fake. It's a hoax. You're a sheeple.

[@cnote3598]

Al Gore was a liar. You sound like a bot

[@scottsena6760]

I worry about our mountain towns in our western pine forests especially. (Fires are getting increasingly aggressive Bark Beetle or not.)

[@richardconnelly7141]

dont worry people on the move are going to cut down those trees

[@tixximmi]

They only get more aggressive because the State and Local governments fail to manage the situation. Government is always the problem.

[@mindalteredstate]

If we suppress all the forest fires we are just adding fuel to a future fire that will be uncontrollable.The foresest fires are needed to regenerate the forests ,pinecones can't open without a fire .Forest that have fires suppressed have so much deadfall on the ground that wildlife can not live ,the bigger animals break legs and are unable to migrate through the dense growth.Game trails are now over grown ,the game are forced by neccessity to use manmade routes through the wilds as the fire suppression has left the miggration trails unpassable for them.Forest fires are needed and need to be managed.We could log an area ,burn what's left and then manage the re-growth and not using monoculture.This is what responsible management is .

[@ouimetco]

My entire province is on fire and a state of emergency has been declared. BC in July 2021

[@scottsena6760]

Prayin’ for ya brother.

[@aclem8246]

I was thinking of retiring in South Carolina from Washington state because I am tired of the rain but the terribly hot summers in the US SE are changing my mind.

[@timothykeith1367]

Its the humidity. Even in antebellum times the wealthy in SC had summer estates in the hills.

[@lisad6106]

It's a good time to have little to lose and much to gain as that puts you in the mindset of survival and success.

[@vidamace6230]

I have an old saying, when you abuse you lose. Maybe this is truer than what people would like to think.

[@stephanieschermi8715]

Don't forget that more and more people are learning to be nomadic in their vehicles. There are tens of thousands of those who live in four wheels.

[@richardconnelly7141]

never heard of that city,is that near tent city?

[@MrsStevenBrown]

There are over a million RV people alone…who have chosen to live and drive around and explore…there’s more people on the move in North America than you think!

[@yeevita]

Love seeing the nomads and their moveable food supplies. Lovey gardens!

[@ChooseCompassion]

Climate aside we have to go back in history and look at all the countries we supplied arms and support to rebels in Ecuador, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua, Yemen And our endless support of Israel when it comes to this decades long occupation of the Palestinians and secret aid to make their situation even worse. I’ve been saying for decades at one point clean water will be more valuable than oil. I was so hoping to be wrong but here we are. It’s all connected.

[@AudioPervert1]

Oh! but these hipster are late and scamming. Pathetic Institutional Late. Way back in 1996, Norman Myers had extensively written and to a large extent warned (predicted) that global warming and devastation of farming land, will cause millions of people to be dislocated, on exodus. The number was approx 12 million in 1998 - Today it is 69 million. By 2025 it will be close to 1% of the world's population.

[@ChooseCompassion]

@@AudioPervert1 I was at the first day Earth Day in 1970. We knew then. And instead of taking action the powers that be decided to stall and waste time doing endless studies and fighting about whether science is real. Even now rarely things such as factory farming or even mentioned when it produces more methane than any other source. I fear for the future of younger generations and those being born now.

[@ChooseCompassion]

@Mason Thomas It’s part of the reason that we are seeing the mass migration north. We sponsored so much damage to people, many indigenous, that people never recovered.

[@ChooseCompassion]

@Mason Thomas I am well aware of how corrupt they are but we supplied weapons and training to aid in the raping and killing of people. Might not have been soldiers from the US but we still have to own our part.

[@ChooseCompassion]

@Mason Thomas Do you have historical amnesia. Or have bought into the lies that have hidden a lot of our complicity just in central America alone. Look up what Noam Chomsky has to say about this.

[@SandraWade666]

I moved out of California in 2011 because I knew fires would get worse. Now I'm dying of blisttering heat on the east coast today. Not sure you can really escape the effects anywhere

[@diegoaespitia]

lol but I mean... thats just called summer on the east coast

[@tracyclark7560]

don't forget Tornado Alley, and freezing winters

[@GrandmaCathy]

That's just normal.

[@beth8775]

@@GrandmaCathy It's normal to us, not so much to someone who has grown up in, say, Georgia. I like the midwest's odds better than wildfire in CA though.

[@whygohome172]

AND hurricanes

[@dspondike]

@@whygohome172 :/ That is a "False Equivalence Fallacy".

[@richardconnelly7141]

and soon we will have fart alley from all the methane release

[@falldownhard]

Really like this guy - low key and all business. Covered alot of things I'd been thinking about with regard to resource allocation (regardless of climate change). Already smaller cities and towns around here struggle to keep roads and water systems halfway decent and there's no extra money to improve them other than continually piling on debt which has to come out bad in the end either way. Some seem to continue the debate of whether climate change is man-made or not as a means to inaction. We need to be prepared as best we can for whatever the future climate patterns are with proper resource allocation. Unfortunately I don't see this ending well. I don't like to dwell needlessly on negative things but I think it's prudent to stay informed on reality.

[@buzoff4642]

He's also on PBS' News Hour on the weekends. Almost always unassuming and inquisitive.

[@jc.1191]

I remember we solved cfc's destroying the ozone 30 years ago. But we've done absolutely nothing on this. It's disappointing.

[@tixximmi]

They later found that CFC's weren't that bad of a problem. But it cost over $490B to change our system. And all that money was wasted.

[@cmossman6580]

And why is it that we just accept the growing sizes of our cities, and countries... don't you think it's time to start putting policies in place that mitigate our rate of birth and increases of population, that put more and more demand on our resources!

[@SandraWade666]

I don't even understand why some ppl are still having kids

[@cmossman6580]

@@SandraWade666 Exactly! for what? what kind of a future are they looking at?

[@foxyauragems6146]

The govt literally pays people to have kids. Welfare kids

[@robertcaldwell2994]

European and North American natality has been falling consistently, with the exception of the baby boom for the last century. We have not been replacing ourselves. Far from stagnating, our populations would be falling without immigration. I have no dispute with your position that there are too many births, but wanted to point out that it is not a domestic issue. In many areas of the planet children are considered a retirement plan. Not sure how domestically we conquer that problem. It may be getting better but very slowly.

[@cmossman6580]

@@robertcaldwell2994 I think we really have to look at this as a global phenomenon... all countries are growing in population when you add in all the refugees that are escaping wars and climate catastrophes as their lands turn to desert, and they run out of water... the entire world is adding around 80 to 100 million per year, despite all the calamities, this is not sustainable, we are running out of clean air, water, places to put our garbage and poo, etc. we are demanding more and more products from big ag, big corps, big pharma, etc; and are good feed stock for the military industrial machine in general... anyway, regardless of how it may 'look' to us here in our little towns, etc. in north america, we have to know that what happens in Africa, south america, egypt, china, affects us all, we're all breathing the same air, and the weather we're collectively creating with our burning of fossil fuels circulates and affects us all equally. It is like mother nature is trying to shake the fleas off her back. Birth control, worldwide, is the only answer. Even this great plague we're having barely affects the ever growing population numbers.

[@GaryALucas]

It's interesting how people form families when they really have no assurance they will be able to support them ? Apparently this is disregarded for the temporary comfort.

[@JustHazardous]

Just as a point of information for you - "people" have been doing so since Lucy first showed up in Ethiopia It's because we are animals and our DNA has us wired to procreate and continue our species (just like every other species)

[@GaryALucas]

@@JustHazardous Yes, the sex drive is right after food and shelter as the primary human motive. It's still 'interesting'. It overrides common sense for sure. Contraception has been available of hundreds of years :/

[@kirstinstrand6292]

@@GaryALucas And Education and Consciousness will change that, over 100+years, hopefully. How long do we have?

[@barbarasmith6005]

@@kirstinstrand6292 zero time left. Decarbonization should have started in a big way no later than 1990. We missed the boat. Anything civilization does now will be an iffi proposition at best. And even if we had started soon enough, there's the pesky aerosol masking effect that wasn't on anyone's radar at the time that I'm aware of.

[@cmossman6580]

100%... we differ from animals in that we have 'intelligence' allegedly. And aside from not being able to support them, what about the rights of the child to be brought into a world that is safe, stable, plenty of resources, fresh water, clean air, free of turmoil, and into a family that has the resources to support the child with nutritious food, etc. . Instead we're bringing our brood into a hell hole with no resources to support them! THAT is criminal if you ask me. No one is thinking about the rights of the child, only about their own selfish 'need' to 'have children'. We should have the intelligence to use birth control and see the reality of the world, it's on fire!!

[@michellebeyeler7339]

Despite variation in climate, most prefer a local solution. Unfortunately, Latin America, India, maybe even a majority of nations, including the US, have been practicing the fine art of bribery for centuries. It's a job requirement. And it's cultural - bribery costs are passed down and enforced. In the US it's called inflation. In Guatemala, starvation. Historically, we met in the battlefield. "Them" was a quantifiable grouping we could target. But when your enemy is your father, who may not receive bribes directly but handles all the necessary paperwork to facilitate it, the confrontation of it all is withering.

[@bob15479]

🤯

[@darrinclements]

How come “over population” is never mentioned?

[@chrispontello9949]

The world population is starting to decline for the first time since the last “near extinction” event. In the near future food will be scarce (it’s already starting) and then water will become scarce. Much of the worlds population gets their drinking water from seasonal melting of glaciers which will be gone soon except for Antarctica and Greenland.

[@puravidadew7031]

Absolutely correct.

[@terrystevens3998]

People railing against populations multiplying has lead us to very dark times in our history . To say we are over populated means we have too many people.. solving that issue would mean less people . How do we get less people? Any answer that isn't birth control and abortion is problematic

[@kirstinstrand6292]

@@chrispontello9949 Everything changes when BOE presents itself. 2022 - 2023. That's when Earth will heat up, uncomfortably. According to Independent Climatologists and Independent, international Scientists. (Those not dependent on Government issued paychecks.) (Or looking for Government Grant Funds.)

[@chrispontello9949]

@@kirstinstrand6292 is that a reference to Brotherhood of Evil? Cuz that is happening now with the orange Nazi trying to overthrow the US government. Luckily, their attack on our Capital was unsuccessful at stopping the transfer of power.

[@Laura-S196]

Excellent interview.

[@madisonchloe4227]

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[@madisonchloe4227]

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[@keyissues1027]

This is just the tip of the "proverbial" iceberg . Many aspects of nature that were neglected will get worse. We needed groups of dedicated, critical thinkers but they were absent. One reason, political non-policies.

[@stephenbeacham9717]

Capitalism is our downfall. When today’s stock close is more important than the community you exist in over the long term.

[@stephenbeacham9717]

@Terrible Buffalo anti science folks should find social media that agrees with your faith based beliefs. Leave us serious minded folks to ourselves. We’ll even try to help Your world.

[@dynabanjo]

@Terrible Buffalo I'm trying to understand people like you. Are you saying nothing is real unless you agree with it? Or are you saying that doom is unavoidable so why pay attention? Is life on Earth built around mankind's needs?

[@stephenbeacham9717]

@Terrible Buffalo is delusional.

[@elainekerslake6865]

@Terrible Buffalo actually you are correct in naming the astro factors as causation in warming but we are speeding the whole process along at a pace. The next ice age is a long way off and I think humans will be vastly reduced in numbers within a few hundred years.

[@dougn2350]

Why is central America in political turmoil? American intervention!

[@madisonchloe4227]

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[@madisonchloe4227]

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[@donjindra]

Baloney, Local corruption is 99% of the cause.

[@cwinfrey7077]

@@donjindra Read some history of CIA / American intervention in central america over the last 70 years

[@donjindra]

@@cwinfrey7077 I have. Read more history than that. It's not as if Central America was a stable, wealth area before our meddling. The left is constantly glamorizing and over-selling US ability to affect countries. Fact is, the CIA is pretty incompetent. They dabble in things but how much power do they really have? The suggestion a small agency with maybe 100 operatives in a country can manipulate it to their will is a fantasy. It's also patronizing and dismissive of the local population. It's the locals who run their country. It's they who do all the heavy lifting. It's they who seal their fate either through indifference or an inability to put country before self-interest. Ultimately the CIA's involvement is about as significant as a fan in the stands who picks which team to cheer for.

[@ingridgrattidge5637]

Thank you so very much.

[@davidskeffington1269]

I like your content Amanpour and Co., but I have asked before if your videos on You Tube could have more available volume.

[@signalfire6]

You might want to buy headphones with an extra volume control on the wires; that's what I use when my computer can't get loud enough.

[@krmccarrell]

@@signalfire6 thanks for that!

[@tixximmi]

Just shows the lack of professionalism.

[@craigkdillon]

Before air conditioning, the South was considered very hot, and the Southwest almost unlivable. Without A/C, Texas, Florida, Arizona, and LA would never had seen the population growth that occurred after WW2 up to today. The drying up of the Colorado will have a profound affect on that region. Meanwhile, sea level rise will destroy Florida. Sea level rise is slow, but inexorable. It cannot be fought. It cannot be delayed. It cannot be negotiated with. And, most importantly, it cannot be "engineered" away. All coastal cities will be affected. Deltas and coastal crop land will be submerged. But, most awful of all, the wet bulb temperatures will rise to the point that our bodies cannot cope with. A high wet bulb temperature, for even a few days, will huge numbers of people, if they cannot get into A/C controlled shelter. Places like India, Nigeria, and others may start getting killer heat waves in the the near future. What then? Can hundreds of millions migrate?? Can surviving nations take them in?

[@kirstinstrand6292]

All true, thank you for these important conditions that few want to acknowledge. Denial makes people FEEL safe.

[@magsbayou]

I enjoyed the story he told about the one families reason for migrating to the US. It expands the reasoning that migration was not the desired solution and the US was not the first option. I only hope we find a way to manage nationalism. The interesting thing is people are nationalistic until something occurs that puts them in the same fate. These personality types seem to not migrate and integrate but like a deadly virus take over and destroy so I truly hope we find a way to manage that.

[@rosairedubrule60]

we need monroe doctrine and to manage our own neighborhood which we have shamefully neglected...haiti =failed state

[@ericjohnson6665]

It helps to understand the increase in the severity of weather phenomenon when one understands that as the temperature of the air rises, so does its ability to absorb more moisture... wetter air means more violent storms.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Wet air needs greater cooled air, otherwise, bodies of all living creatures get warmer...leading to organ failures.

[@kirstinstrand6292]

Think Covid is bad? Wait for surging temperatures and limited use of water. Sorry.

[@mattwhalen57]

Gotta love thermal expansion

[@jeffgold3091]

most powerful hurricane to ever make landfall 1935 Florida keys ; California mega flood 1861; Mississippi River flood disaster 1927 . many more examples . the only thing getting more extreme is media coverage .

[@peter9477]

@@jeffgold3091 Nice job cherry-picking data. Does it pay well?

[@petuniaromania6294]

The people in positions of power are allowing the climate changes that we see now to run their course without mitigation or adaptation, that's what frustrates most people and worries them too.

[@verkanica]

the people in position are ignorant

[@justbe1451]

They are bought & paid for when they get into government. Their political future will be doing what donor companies want them to, not the voters.

[@tixximmi]

People have zero effect on Global Warming. Zero. People who worry are psychotic.

[@lovelight9261]

It’s gonna get interesting.

[@stephenverchinski409]

122 degrees coming this week in Death Valley. New Mexico is expected to have no more agricultural water calls available by mid June. Laborers from Mexico will find no work.

[@tixximmi]

Maybe the high average would be 115 degrees. Average day for Death Valley.

[@nenamart5272]

The infestation will migrate Eastward and like they say, affect the climate.

[@verkanica]

we got the world we deserve.

[@libelulal6258]

This is a global issue and requires a unified global solution effort.

[@tixximmi]

No it's not. If China's and India's emissions be on the same par as the US that would be 38% of the problem. It's not an issue.

[@NoWay1969]

We've _caused_ this. The more privileged someone is, the more they contributed to global climate change. The US has been grossly negligent in dealing with this.

[@anitaweir1480]

Great job explaining what is happening and why! This is a great video to show students at the high school level to give insight and understanding. Thank You!!!

[@juligrlee556]

No food, no work, salmonella plagued drinking water, no sanitary waste piping, no affordable health care, no options for poor people to get an education, starving young men and women doing violence to exploit others who have family and food - Central America's banana republic has beautiful climate with hellish social circumstances.

[@mungodegrijalva822]

Are you talking about the United States? You just described the "State of the Union."

[@juligrlee556]

@@mungodegrijalva822 world wide - tragic reality for many

[@dalmarcadde1507]

I saw it with my own eyes at the place where i used to live.

[@XHobbiesPrime]

I moved 500 miles north from where I used to live. It was way too hot and the storms and hurricanes were getting worse the last few years.

[@kirkwootton1887]

The biggest worry should be the areas that are going underwater fast like Florida and Gulf States and the east coast. Where will all these people go.

[@jennifertarin4707]

people are already leaving parts of Alaska because their homes are being swallowed by the sea. There was an island in the Chesapeake bay that has virtually disappeared because the surrounding water took it.

[@cmossman6580]

The same places all the climate refugees from the new desert in the west, north (and east for the westerners).

[@tixximmi]

Going underwater? Haven't seen any studies on Florida sinking. Can you provide anything?

[@kirkwootton1887]

@@tixximmi Hi, I saw a video last year on Miami about low income people being displaced and it linked it to loss of land. The video indicated that water levels had risen 6". I will look for video

[@kirkwootton1887]

@@tixximmi I looked and there is so many videos on this topic. Have a look and determine your own opinion.

[@bepriceless]

They better learn how to cheaply convert sea water to fresh water soon.

[@bepriceless]

@@MichaelTheophilus906 I hadn't heard that. Even if they don't put the salt back into the ocean?

[@bepriceless]

@@MichaelTheophilus906 They seem to charge twice as much for table sea salt, so sell it, but I get your point; lots of salt.

[@tixximmi]

Yes the sun has been doing that for 4 Billion years. It's called evaporation.

[@whowherewhatwhywen]

People in California are moving to Arizona to escape the wildfires. However, Arizona is experiencing record drought, and we are running out of water. Plus it keeps on getting hotter here. Stay in Arizona does it seem to be an option for much longer.

[@tenderheart7530]

The whole west is in a drought. They have drained the groundwater out. The past winter didn’t give much moisture. When are citizens going to build differently so they don’t need to drain lake Powell, etc for air conditioning, flush their toilets less and ration water till the underground aquifers are full again. 🌈

[@buzoff4642]

@@tenderheart7530 Nor do the CA farmers need to drain the water with inefficient irrigation, to export, export, export food.

[@kristinab1078]

@@tenderheart7530 Yes, good point. Lake Powell has done down so much since I was first there over 25 yrs. ago. Everyone is responsible for daily over consumption. Fresh water is being used like it will never end...washing every article of clothing after each use even when it's not needed, showers every day and sometimes night, washing each dish as the tap is running rather than in a washing bucket in the sink, etc.

[@tenderheart7530]

@@kristinab1078 It breaks my heart because I can see suffering coming. Edward Abbey & others warned us. It will take courageous politicians to tell citizens the truth and that change in their way of life is a MUST. Nature is bearing most of the brunt right now. This country needs to stop and think for a moment and recalibrate our way of life. My life has been dedicated to water & I save every drop I can but it is so hard to break through brainwashed resistance. The west was never meant to sustain this kind of population growth & without wasting lake Powell @ the Arizona river on air conditioning there would be way less citizens living there. And that story can be repeated in every western state. When the west side of Oregon started burning I felt despair. 🌈

[@tenderheart7530]

@@buzoff4642 Agree. There needs to be a mixed panel to decide. There is so little monitoring and coordination of resources. Why is San Bernardino allowing nestle company free water to later sell for profit. And they have been having fires. Nothing makes sense. Politicians just want things to look fine while they are in office so they don’t want to tell citizens the truth. The Brown family held the governorship for 24 years and it was only the last few days of Jerry’s last term that he even brought the subject of water & snowmelt up with a photo op. It is just plain cowardice. We must change the way we consume water. 🌈

[@robertoshockley2733]

For a very long time, Mexican people have resented Guatemalans (pinche Chapines, as they say) crossing through Mexico to get to the US. This has resulted in a lot of hate and violence. Humanity is on the brink of collapse. We need to unite to survive what the elites have left us with. We are the Human Race, onetime guardians of this planet. "Have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth." (Gen. I:28, KJV)

[@talldave7799]

Because of chronic drought in California, there is no chance of Hydro Power generation! Even if California generates power, because of constant risk of massive fires, the power transmission lines are at risk. That's why the largest utility PG&E is in bankruptcy. Every home owner has to fend for themselves to generate and store power from their own rooftops. But is that scalable across a State and economy this size?!

[@elizabethbennet4791]

Yep, theyre moving in greatening numbers..just saw land for sale near me (on the coast) that dropped from $90K to 38K in two months.

[@angiesunnie8469]

Such important information. This is our future whether or not you agree with the concept of climate change.

[@shihtzusrule9115]

The last time climate prompted a mass migration, after 2 volcanoes erupted dropping temps and disrupting farming across the globe, we had the Justinian plague. Carried by mice that migrated with the refugees. Are you KIDDING? They would flock and overrun the border. We need to develop a policy, working with Mexico and Guatemala, El Salvador, and Honduras unless we want to absorb these people. we are going to have our population shifts within our country to deal with and changes in farm country to feed Americans and the rest of the world. We need a pipeline to move the water from areas that have too much and move it areas that are in drought. If we can do it for bitumen and oil, we can do it for water which is absolutely necessary. Build water catchment, treatment, and pipeline to move it to where it is needed. Water is key and drought is self perpetuating with the absence of water.

[@carolesea]

Very articulate description of the changing migration situation and climate change! Thank you!!

[@jamesdeutsch2051]

The religion and economy of militarism and resouce exploitation is salting the wounds.

[@tixximmi]

How is militarism, religion?

[@TheJesusFreeke]

And salting the Earth, ironically

[@Avy954]

@@tixximmi It's a metaphor. They're basically trying to say that militarism is practiced with a similar reverence that is typically reserved for religion.

[@tixximmi]

@@Avy954 Sorry, just don't see it.

[@tixximmi]

@@Avy954 Oh you mean like lieberalism.

[@susanvadencourt1241]

No one mentions the affect on local wildlife....and that human population continues to skyrocket in cancer emulating growth.

[@viewmodeimages350]

Great interview 👍🏻

[@maryann1651]

Very eye opening

[@rockofagesusa7942]

It’s a big problem and people just don’t get it or just don’t care

[@gold9ja]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@joanlansberry9160]

They are like the frogs in the boiling water, too unaware until it's too late, sadly.

[@frankeinstein719]

China is realesing more CO2 than the US, Russia, India and Japan combined. How are our efforts to reduce climate changes be enough without their complete cooperation?

[@tixximmi]

It won't matter what the US does. But they still want our money. It's not really a problem.

[@americanartist6485]

Excellent interview. Thanks.

[@claudermiller]

I live in Ohio. Those people from Texas better not even think about migrating here.

[@angiesunnie8469]

There are a lot of liberal people in Texas. That is why it is a battle ground state.

[@claudermiller]

@@angiesunnie8469 I was being sarcastic. I lived in Dallas when Ann Richards was governor. I know.

[@angiesunnie8469]

@@claudermiller 😀

[@mk1st]

People migrating to Texas from California are mostly wealthy and because of taxes.

[@angiesunnie8469]

@@mk1st yes it is expensive to live in California. So much to draw people in spite of the high cost of living.🌊

[@AliceDiamondFitness]

While any close look at the effects of climate change are important, I feel this discussion doesn’t look closely enough. From a blight on coffee to shortages of water to uncontrollable wildfires ...these are less a product of climate change than they are industrial farming practices and bad forest management. I’m no climate denier; it’s real and a real problem...but many of the world's ills can be fixed by changing the way we do things- especially when it comes to food production. As for movement into cities, I’m observing the opposite...folks moving out of cities to where they can grow their own food, organically, and often employing permaculture principles. If permaculture and organic farming were to replace all factory and industrial farming, people would be fed, they wouldn’t have to move, and the world’s carbon and petrochemical footprint would be drastically reduced.

[@cassiecollingsworth7407]

AMEN.

[@michaelrch]

Industrial farming is actually very efficient. Switching to more organic farming is potentially more costly for the environment. It's WHAT we are farming that is the problem. Over 80% of farmland is being used for animal agriculture. That produces less than 20% of the food we eat. Oh, and it produces over 60% of carbon emissions from the food system. The science is clear on the food system. We have to switch much of the consumption of animal products to plant-based foods instead. I would post links but then my comment would be deleted 😖

[@AliceDiamondFitness]

@@michaelrch Thanks for weighing in! I agree about the need to drastically reduce meat consumption in much of the world. And factory farming is inhumane, dangerous, filthy and abhorrent. I also believe that a variety of farming practices and scales will lead to the best outcome for food production and nutrition and that people taking food into their own hands, so to speak, is an important component. But how would transitioning large scale farming practices away from a reliance on the petrochemical industry be more costly to the environment?

[@michaelrch]

@@AliceDiamondFitness You have to break down sectors and practices as "industrial" means different things in different settings, especially between arable and livestock farming. Industrial livestock farming is relatively efficient vs organic or extensive livestock farming. But they are both terrible compared to pretty much all plant-both food production. Yes, when it comes to plant-based food production, there are a lot of ways to make that less industrial which are very positive for ecosystems BUT that often reduces yields so you need more land. This is the massive win-win of cutting out animal ag. It frees up huge amounts of land. IF the whole population was plant-based we could give up 3/4 of all farmed land. Plant-based ag is just so much more efficient for getting nutritious food from the land. So if we can start getting land back we can both rewild/reforest some but ALSO then allow plant-based ag to become less intensive, more regenerative and more in harmony with nature. Getting the land back is the key though. On the fossil fuels, that is an issue for sure but there is a solution coming in the next 5-15 years. Electric farm vehicles. The transition is already happening, starting with smaller vehicles but they are getting larger. They are more reliable and cost much less to run. They can also be automated more easily. Pretty cool actually.

[@AliceDiamondFitness]

@@michaelrch I see, yes, defining terms is indeed critical to any argument. As for getting land back I guess we'll need to talk to Bill Gates! But reliance on petrochemicals isn't just with regard to machines, it's also the chemicals used in lieu of building robust soil. Going electric will be good (though that energy still has to be produced somehow). Thanks for that insight into electric farm equip being the wave of the future. It will help my efforts to ban gas-powered leaf blowers locally!

[@sdmakeupandentertainment]

20 years ago I said this was gonna happen. Now im saying it's happening faster and sooner than what people think.

[@lindaward3156]

I started recycling, gas reducing, buying sustainably farmed products, etc in the '70s. l thot it was the beginning of us, as a people, in having more mainstream awareness to our personal carbon footprint - altho l don't think that term was used. l have to say l'm disappointed in what l see as losing ground instead of gaining in this fight. Where l'm living now we're not ALLOWED to recycle, dumpsters only. How is this possible in a State that fines you if you don't? l'm living in subsidized housing and it appears that the poor are exempt from the rules/laws that everyone else in my State has to abide by. Is our gov't trying to say poorer people are too stupid to figure out how to sort the recyclables? Or have they arbirtarly decided that us less monied folks don't give two sh*ts about the environment? lt angers me that l cannot even do the easiest kind -like glass and clean cardboard. l don't drive so I'm supposed to go find a recycling center, take my loads onto a bus (l'm disabled some, it would be nearly impossible), and schelpp my meager offerings every week so l can recycle? lt's ridiculous. ☮

[@sdmakeupandentertainment]

@@lindaward3156 Yeah that is awful. It makes no sense.

[@tixximmi]

You were wrong then and now. There it isn't a human problem.

[@dineshbhana2920]

Majority of people that live in Cities haven’t a clue where their food comes from , if they did these same folk would STOP bureaucrat’s , politicians and Councillors from zoning land for the building of houses on ELITE , irreplaceable food producing Agricultural land . Here in New Zealand we have only 5 million people , we have thousands of hectares of land which is not suitable for the production of food ( vegetables) , yet we are witnessing huge area of land being gobbled up every year and there’s no end in sight.

[@thnzadventure8486]

I’m an American that recently moved to New Zealand. Just to be clear, are you saying the land is being “gobbled up” to developer real estate? Or is it for logging, farming etc? Thanks

[@dineshbhana2920]

Correct gobbled up for housing.

[@dineshbhana2920]

I’m sorry to say this but , Elite food producing land ,frost free in many cases is being gobbled up for housing, and it appears there is no end in sight . Once Ohakune carrot season is finished around September , Pukekohe and surrounding areas is the only reliable place where spring carrot will come from and we even send the to the South Island , for upto 6 to 8 weeks .

[@tonypazos5030]

20 years ago my water bill in my studio apartment in Phoenix was $ 50/month I wonder what it is now in 2021

[@timothykeith1367]

I'm concerned about the future cost of water too.

[@kevinhughey316]

I live in Goodyear Arizona $ 112.00 a month for water that's for 4 people!

[@zebrafinch12]

People can't keep their heads in the sand. What is coming will come...

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[@madisonchloe4227]

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[@mungodegrijalva822]

Yes, they can & will. Their heads will be in the sand as their neighborhoods flood, or burn, or swallowed in earthquakes, hurricanes, or food riots. Never underestimate the comfort of keeping your head in the sand!

[@xenocampanoli815]

We need to be talking with each other, and helping our communities acquire the vocabulary it takes to understand these matters.

[@buzoff4642]

The public is being buckshot with severe issues. This is just one of many.

[@cordeliav3055]

Thank you for this great presentation.

[@mackenziedog1872]

Important topic. Thanks.

[@lunzie01]

And not one word about the number of people! We are certainly over-populating our precious finite planet. We need family planning access to everyone everywhere.

[@MG-fr3tn]

Yeah the onserdity of religion and infinite economics go hungry god then say something

[@tenderheart7530]

And not a single appeal to deal with the huge population now on the earth. 😥

[@davidbeaulieu4815]

I think the pandemic was a response to that

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[@madisonchloe4227]

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[@tenderheart7530]

@@davidbeaulieu4815 Now that is a scary thought...

[@dhibba52]

This is the nature's response to human proliferation. Over population, pandemics, war, etc.

[@anahata2009]

I wish he would have had the courage to state the obvious, in light of this crisis: we have to stop reproducing at the rate we have been. As there are fewer livable areas, and more and more people, it's a recipe for an even greater disaster. Humans aren't exactly famous for their magnanimity when it comes to sharing scarce resources. We were punching each other over toilet paper-imagine what humans will do when it's food and water in short supply?

[@MAYK1NG]

Fascinating.

[@mariaruiz5445]

It's all about the Benjamin's

[@IIVVBlues]

The elephant in the room that no one seems to want to address is population growth. There are too many people to be supported by their present environment. The climate is not responsible for changing the environment as much as the population growth. It is all well and good to say we should be more welcoming to numbers of immigrants and increasing foreign aid to other countries, but where does the money come from? Our resources are not infinite, even though many politicians act as if they are. It wasn't just climate that forced the great migration from Europe in the 19th and early 20th Century, it was industrialization. America was just initiating industrialization and there was a seemingly inexhaustible supply of land and jobs attracting people who had been displaced by the very same forces of industrialization which now threaten America. We are seeing, in America, many of the same population problems that Europe faced a century ago, but now there is nowhere else to go and we're rapidly going broke.

[@tenderheart7530]

Agree! These people appear to have no sense of personal responsibility. They make no effort to control their birthrate and then shove their extras to someone else to care for. I hate suffering & I am becoming angry for the lack of common sense. Look at these countries around the world in crisis but still birthing babies as fast as they can. Then they want to guilt others who were careful with their bodies & resources.

[@buzoff4642]

True, if we only had 3 people burning coal it'd be no problem. But population growth is deflection. Bad practices by commerce is the culprit, and that includes buying corrupt politicians to maintain status quo of bad practices.

[@tenderheart7530]

@@buzoff4642 I agree that corporations & certain individuals have been allowed to strip the planet for their own selfish purposes but I still believe there must be a definite downturn on population numbers. People need food & water but they also need space.

[@tixximmi]

Not true John. The problem isn't the amount of people. The problem is the Government that doesn't know how to solve problems.

[@buzoff4642]

@@tixximmi The how starts with ditching neoliberalism, which they will not give up as policy, due to its Max Profit. Despite the extraordinary negatives: international fiscal corruption (2008), extraordinary rise in international "income inequality", fast tracked pandemic, rising political unrest, fast tracked climate change, to name a few.

[@waitaminute2015]

Miami should move, but the denial is still real.

[@astrofpv3631]

Even desantis signed a infrastructure bill to protect against sea level rise, it’s getting harder to ignore

[@jjn6914]

I love how he concluded with "borders are a modern construct". It absolutely is a man-made construct. I can imagine our early ancestors probably traveled across continents for the same reason: climatic change forcing difficult decision to leave their home for the sake of survival.

[@doobidoo095]

CO2 at 0.04% is a 2,500th of the atmosphere. That means to warm the climate by just 1"C carbon dioxide molecules must capture 2500"C of heat energy. That is impossible. It also breaks the fundamental laws of thermodynamics. Methane at 0.00017% is a 600,000th of the atmosphere so it's even more impossible. However, the climate is changing. This is because of deliberate geoengineering programmes, in particular ozone thinning away from the poles. Though largely unreported ozone thinning effect is directly observable, this summer you can see a unnaturally bright sun just as we did last year. Under these conditions the pain felt when looking at the sun is not only from the increase in visible light but the much larger increase in infrared. (Look up at the sky and you will see a range of geoengineering operations in progress, these include chemtrail induced cloud or hazing, ripple patterns caused by HAARP installations, bizarre and unnatural cloud formations). Climate change is a programme to force change in accordance with the implementation of Agenda 21 /2030. Current events demonstrate this transition is well underway and will involve massive population cull through injected nanotech (re transhumanist programme). Agenda 21 also sees the permanent loss of all property rights with the introduction of universal basic income (ref NESARA/GESARA) and has/is being promoted by The World Economic Forum. 'You will own nothing and you will be happy' WEF In a depopulated world the surviving brainwashed and controlled population will be confined to mega cities. Carbon limits will be used to restrict consumption and liberty. Meanwhile the re-greened wilderness will be the exclusive playground of the ultra rich elite posing as conservationists. The CO2 hoax amounts to the theft of the world and the enslavement of humanity by a parasitic few. Welcome to the future! _________ I have included a debunking of 'accumulated heat' as it is so often used to explain how trace elements, so called 'greenhouse gasses', can warm the planet. Accumulated heat whilst sounding a reasonable explanation of how heat can build up is rather nothing more than gobbledygook. In fact it shows those using such arguments do not even understand what heat is. When we measure temperature we are measuring the heat energy a thing is losing. In short heat is a measurement of flow, the transfer of heat energy and this will always be in the direction towards the colder. For this reason a thing can never 'accumulate heat' in the way those advocating CO2 climate change describe. The temperature of a body is the measure of heat output, it can never be greater than the measure of heat input. Output = input. When a thing is warmed it is heated to an equivalent of the heat input. If this input is not maintained it will cool. Those that propose that heat can build up to be hotter than the total measure of heat input at a given time either do not understand what heat is or are being deliberately misleading. To illustrate, an object being heated by a flame can never become hotter than that flame, it's temperature cannot rise inexorably to the temperature of the sun for instance. Heat cannot be accumulated. When we think about it common sense tells us this must be the case. NASA and even Nobel Prize winning physicists have expounded 'accumulated heat' as the explanation how CO2 is able to warm the atmosphere. They claim that over hundreds of years CO2 has captured heat energy and this heat has 'accumulated' to produce a serious warming effect. As I have just explained, this is totally impossible and fundamentally violates all the laws of thermodynamics. That respected scientists should support such uneducated, unthinking nonsense is disturbing and only reflects that in terms of being able to think clearly about a subject they have no facility or inclination. These are the Dark Ages of science. Belief has outweighed logic or any critical thought. It tells us that we should not unquestioningly accept anything we are told, that experts can be fools. (NB: be aware of attempts to discard thermodynamics by talking about biology. Eg. 'It only takes a drop of arsenic to kill a person.' This would be somewhat desperate, muddled thinking. Clearly biological processes based on the reaction of a cell are not the same as the laws of physics/thermodynamics).

[@matthauslill4577]

I am living since 45 years in Costa Rica, closer to the Equator than Guatemala, or El Salvador but I don't realize any dramatic climate change. The problems of the Central American countries mentioned by Mr Lustgarten stem more from social, political and land use change causes. These factors are heavily influenced by the USA in a mainly extremely destructive way. Not so much caused by an assumed climate change.