The Great Vinyl Community Debate: Tastes Great or Less Filling? And a Channel Announcement.

[@joecarrera1799]

I'm glad you did this one. Because of all the different sections, I could write a lengthy comment but even I wouldn't want to read it later. I don't know if I saw the same video as the one you referred to but it was a similar gist. I can't speak to this person's experiences and I've only been watching VC videos since 2020 or 2021 so I don't know how the vinyl community was different in the past. However it's always seemed warm and collegial. The (mostly) guys in the British VC are always encouraging viewers to follow their fellow menbers. I like a world where Dillon from Noble Records can go on the Jazz Bums or where Dom and Mazzy can meet up or DG can pop in the Virtual Pub with John and Hedley. Maybe it's cliquish but maybe it's just friendly. Frankly if I were on KZbin I'd probably just assume that all the comments would be negative so I'd avoid reading them as much as possible. It seems like you do an okay job.

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

I think the biggest problem with that guy’s video was he was making sweeping assumptions based off a really small sample size. This is a societal problem, really. I don’t get enough views to truly get trolled. Somebody like Mazzy gets trolled on the regular. Thanks for the insightful comment as a always. Sorry for the delayed response. Cheers! ✌🏻

[@wax_n_wine]

Honest and thoughtful response... would expect nothing less. I was wondering what other people thought about that dude's 'problem with the VC.' I am overdue for a Krautrock deep dive. Regarding the age... I think your ears have to be open and the same goes with food or literature. So many times, people I respected tried to share books, cuisine or music and I just wasn't ready to receive them. No shame. And then, all of a sudden, Alice Coltrane / Faulkner / Burdock root are totally perfect.

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

The desire for new experiences is key, I think. Most people are just happy with what they already like. I don't ever want to be like that. Although, I do grow more and more docile in other areas in my life. There's always a "my problem with the Vinyl Community" video being made. Now, most of the ones I've seen in the past are made by younger people (in their 20s or younger) that feel alienated because of snobbery or the inability to afford a certain level of equipment or audiophile pressings. Those videos are always valid, and if I comment, I usually tell them that not every vinyl collector is like that. "Just have fun." All that jazz. This guy was just seeking attention. And thought he knew something thousands of other record collectors didn't. All based on an extremely small sample. Hope all is well, Alexander. Cheers!

[@jamesgriffithsmusic]

I went digging with an old friend a while back and he said something that highlighted the difference between us. He gestured towards all the second hand records in the racks and said 'Look at all this music I'm never gonna hear'. His point being that his approach to consuming music was to stay very narrow but dig very deep. Whereas I have this insatiable need to hear every significant or interesting record that ever existed so end up doing an awful lot of surface skating. With kraut rock I never went beyond Can and Neu! but I guess there's still time.

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

Oh, me too, James. I was definitely a surface level “dabbler” for many years. You kind of have to be if you’re open to a wide variety of genres. I would say I’ve kind of settled into my focused select areas now. But who knows? Maybe a dub/reggae period of exploration is about to kidnap my attention and wallet? 🤣

[@BeaSides]

What a lovely way to describe the difference.

[@MelindaMurphy]

If you are feeling "complacent" that's ok. You don't have to comment back.😄♥️ I understand. I just wanted to tell you that you inspired me to listen to Karen Dalton. She's great and I really think my daughter would love her. Billie Holiday is her favorite artist and Karen's style has a similar quality. I need to pick up that Alice Coltrane album. The disco ball totally works. You should keep it up. 🤗 Have a great weekend.

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

Hi Melinda! Speaking of comment responses... you are the queen! I don't know how you do it. I have also been lazy about commenting on other's videos. Your 5 years in the VC video was great. Thank you for the kind mention. And your albums that greatly affected my life video was great too. The stories connected those albums. Karen Dalton is so fantastic. What unique voice and I do agree she does sound influenced by Billie Holiday. The disco ball is still there! I'm totally lazy about taking it down. My daughter's birthday was Taylor Swift themed! She's obsessed. She's 5 going on 15 and it's kind of breaking my heart. Lol But, I also love her enthusiasm for music. I hope you're doing well! Cheers

[@vinylrichie007]

I remember seeing that Can album in the early 70’s at White Front in the three for $1 section. I passed because of the cover. In a similar vein around 78 I had the opportunity to see Alice Coltrane live at the Lighthouse. I passed, thinking she was just cashing in on the Coltrane name. My friends said the gig was very good. I’m sure they were right.

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

If I had just stumbled upon that Can album, I would’ve ignored it because of the cover too. “So, your band is called Can and you have a can on your album cover? How original.”

[@TheVinylverse]

Wardrobe changes, this must be a serious video. I also wish I knew what I know now when I was younger. KZbin is big enough for us all to exist.

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

Recorded at three different times, Bill. I’ve done this before. I don’t know if I actually wish I knew what I know now when I was younger. I’m okay with discovering things when I discovered them. Maybe I wish I had let this friend of mine from high school convince me to collect vinyl. Instead, I thought he was crazy. 🤣 Yeah. Big enough for all of us to exist. But how about we stay away from sweeping generalizations?

[@TheVinylverse]

@@TheDigitalGramophone truth! And yes I know you recorded at different times. Just being silly.

[@vinylrichie007]

Your excitement was exploding off the screen when you showed The New Drifters.

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

If I exude anything, it’s excitement.

[@dixielandfarm]

I put on the latest American Analog Set album, and my wife just HATED it. Our music tastes are drastically different. That is my favorite Can album - and it took 15-20 years to go from thinking, meh, they're ok, opposed to now where I actively listen to it.

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

I think we need another music review from Marissa. Those videos are always fun. I watched your Ween video. Sometimes I feel like the only white male in their mid-40s that never had any attachment or connected experience to Ween.

[@seekingathread]

The Karen Dalton is a lovely sounding pressing, yet I still prefer the Capitol press. I'm assuming you've seen that doc, maybe we discussed...what a troublemaker. Enigmatic and a gifted performer. Something about her way around a song is so hypnotic. Crazy she never released any of her own music. I'm doing my best to avoid common pitfalls of the VC but I think what's working best is buying less and focusing more. I guess I'm going for more a tastes great than less filling. How's that boxset holding up? I recommend not storing them in the box, or else playback won't happen. I do think Know By Heart is their best record and hopefully they compile or box up those next 3.

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

I actually haven’t seen the full doc, but I have watched clips on KZbin. I’ve still only spun two of the records from the AmAnSet box. Also having some gear issues right now, so taking some time off from spinning. Maybe more on that later…

[@bigstar1000]

Quote of the video: 'as long as you're not buying a bunch of f***ing records just to say that you have them' The bulk of the VC condensed in one nifty sentence. Haha!

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

This is true, Fred. If I’m honest, I’ve probably been guilty of it as well. No longer! I’m a changed man! 😂

[@therevrockinrollin]

“That Rev guy really listens to terrible music on terrible gear.” - MOD guy

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

🤣

[@Localbandography]

😂😂😂

[@ShamrocknRecords]

Don’t worry about keeping in touch and writing on videos or replying. I never even left a comment on your Americana Tag and I’m the one that pushed you into it. Hahahaha Cheers☘️

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

Yeah man. What the hell?!

[@ShamrocknRecords]

@@TheDigitalGramophone wow! You are right on it!! The new and improved Jon!

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

@@ShamrocknRecords 🤣 I’m totally gloat-posting a record you want after this.

[@culturefan]

The thing about taste, mood, listening to older stuff, is that it's a moving target or evolves. Some of the older stuff I collected during the late 70s,80s (punk, new wave) I wish I had bought other things like maybe some more ECM records or jazz, but it's an evolution to get where I'm at now. The other thing too is that we're more or less influneced by the local record store in the town we buy stuff at (not so much now with the internet). But pre-internet if the store owner wasn't into a particular genre, band, etc. They probably wouldn't handle it, so it wasn't available to buy. That's why I always liked looking elsewhere when I travelled.

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

Some excellent points here. I actually edited out a diatribe about how the internet changed everything. In almost every example, I talk about first buying the album in the 90s but then not truly digging deeper until at least the 2000s. And, yes, this was totally because of having the internet at my fingertips. The rabbit holes were so much more difficult to find in the 90s, 80s, 70s, etc. You did have to rely on your local record store. Or pay attention to the bands you loved and who they talked about in interviews. Sometimes fanzines, band zines, or label record zines would point people towards new avenues. The internet is a blessing and a curse. It’s overwhelming at times - all the different pathways to musical knowledge. Cheers, Dave! ✌🏻

[@vinylrichie007]

I’m really out of the VC loop. I know nothing about the gear head that united the VC.

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

If you’ve seen one “My problem with the Vinyl Community” video, you’ve seen them all.

[@vinylrichie007]

@@TheDigitalGramophone I did label one of my videos “My problem with the VC.” I talked about different things which I now don’t remember but no mention of the problems in the VC until the last line of the video. “Some people that this sh!t too serious.”

[@L.E.55472]

I’m off and running w CAN! You knew we lost Damo🙏🏻....this was insightful and enlightening and inspiring....b-ball rules🏀✊🏻

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

I know. RIP Damo. 😢 He was touring back around the pandemic, and they had to cancel his Charlotte show because of it. Dave was going to go.

[@L.E.55472]

@@TheDigitalGramophone yes! I saw he left a comment on Dereck Higgins channel about a friend of his that was gonna play w him, Dereck was also slotted to play in Omaha.....snow advisory here ....ugh spring please don’t be late 😎

[@therevrockinrollin]

I had a summer school stint in college - two sessions. Brutal. My friend and I decided to pick each other shows for the entire time - not telling each other until you showed up. First batch? I took him to Sugar. He took me to….Phish. :(

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

I’m miserably failing at telling people I was going to be better about responding to comments. Lol I had a short-lived Phish phase. The only time I’ve ever considered myself easily influenced by a friend group. 🍭

[@BeaSides]

Whales with saxophones?! I need that record! I think I have a dozen copies of CopperBlue. I buy the cd “in case I can’t find the other one” every time I see it🫣…I love that record, so it’s worth it. Hold up…Did I hear art school? Where did ya go?! What’s your medium? Tell me more!

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

Whales with Saxophones is a good band name. Copper Blue is legendary. I was just in the Fine Arts program in college. It wasn't exactly an "art school." :) I eventually sold out after graduation. Lol

[@BeaSides]

@@TheDigitalGramophone If you were in school for art, then that is art school! Doesn’t have to be flutey doodie! 😂😂 I am an art teacher, so if you mention art, my ears perk up! I keep trying to get folks to collaborate on a project with me, but everyone picks on themselves too much to play along.

[@ashrobinson4604]

What an excellent introduction to a discussion on how musical taste/ appreciation evolves. PS CAN’s Vitamin C has the greatest groove all-time! Any challengers out there? The Associates Gloomy Sunday may run close. 🤔

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

No argument from me on “Vitamin C,” Ash. I can’t attest to The Associates, though. I’ll just trust your instincts there. Good to hear from you! Hope all is well your way. ✌🏻

[@big_burly_bro]

Complacency is unforgivable.

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

You will take it and like it.

[@davidellis5141]

What's Going Ahn Jon ? - The cool thing about My Life In The Bush Of Ghosts is that it was made simultaneously with Remain In Light. David & Brian enjoying a burst of creativity with a band by day & themselves & late night radio & UHF religious channels by night. It's an innovative & intriguing album & true world music. The sequel is a different story ...

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

Everything That Happens Will Happen Today? Yeah. I never really got into that album. You should check out Rev’s Instagram review. Good stuff if you aren’t already following. He shows respect and has fun with it at the same time. I owe a lot to Remain In Light. The directions in pointed me in.

[@Localbandography]

Nice seats at the Buzz 🐝 game. Audio guy chose not to read. 📚

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

Sam was in heaven at the game. 🏀

[@elliottcrews4997]

The public library PSA was worth the price of admission, and regarding the American information Society do you have to get secretly invited like the Masons, or can you fill out an application? Asking for a friend. 😂

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

Dom is the gatekeeper on Natural Information Society, but I don’t think he’s too restrictive about the application process.

[@L.E.55472]

Ha look at that smirk on your face In the thumbnail lol.....reeeeely like the sample of the b-ball game🏀...hmmm like the Public Announcement? Waaaaaa??? Waaaaa Are we talking about here??? From the heart you are talking? I wasn’t aware of this person you speak of....ok listening and watching

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

No need to watch the video I’m referring to. That’s also why I didn’t show the channel name or link to it. He doesn’t deserve the added attention. Sam was in heaven at the basketball game!

[@L.E.55472]

@@TheDigitalGramophone got it thanks Jon...hugs to the family....when one speaks from the heart how in he_ _ am I suppose to heckle you? Ha! Take care ✊🏻☮️🎶✊🏻

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

@@L.E.55472 You can type “hell” here. 😉

[@L.E.55472]

@@TheDigitalGramophone ok lol!!

[@onebigholiday42]

No one would ever buy records just to have them on their shelves though 😂

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

No. Never! 😎😂

[@diamond_marimba]

13:43 shots fired. 4:20 is that a CD or your medical records?

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

🤣😂 Okay. In all seriousness, I know I have thrown that kind of stuff your way in the past, but I truly was not thinking about you when I said that. Thanks to you and Dom and a few others I have stumbled upon on Instagram, I have been exposed to a larger world of people who seek out adventurous/rare/experimental sounds. So, I assure you, that was a wide net. Also, I simply black out sometimes when I’m recording and have no idea what I’m saying. When I was editing this, I made myself laugh out loud at “whales playing experimental saxophone.” Did I really say that?! Proud moment. Not gonna lie. About 6-7 years ago, I took 80% of my CDs in plastic jewel cases and converted them into medical records.

[@diamond_marimba]

@@TheDigitalGramophone I think this is a good outline for a full apology video

[@TheDigitalGramophone]

@@diamond_marimba Sorry Not Sorry Vinyl Tag 2024