The greatest clock (and map) ever made

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@BenManage_Communications
@BenManage_Communications 7 ай бұрын
I'm not ready for my local time to change by 7.5 minutes during my 30 minute commute.
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 7 ай бұрын
how far north do you live?????
@WangChung81
@WangChung81 7 ай бұрын
Tangent #3 was stated and written by someone that has never had daily zoom calls with people across the country. Like Outlook doesn't have enough trouble with just 4 timezones...
@BenManage_Communications
@BenManage_Communications 7 ай бұрын
Part of the year in Alaska, in Missouri it would only be a couple minutes drift over 30 minutes on the hwy
@youforgotthelinkinthedescr6798
@youforgotthelinkinthedescr6798 6 ай бұрын
You're not ready for the future
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 6 ай бұрын
Mine changes by a whole *hour* twice every year... 🙃 (And more than that: Every time work has me jump on the Eurostar to Paris, I have to put my devices _forward_ by 45 years... 🇬🇧🏛➡🚆➡🚄🇫🇷🇪🇺😉)
@IanZainea1990
@IanZainea1990 7 ай бұрын
yes, timezones are pretty arbitrary. and yes, they were made for trains. But doing a time zone for every second would cause all kinds of headaches. Imagine a hospital that serves a 30 mi radius. Someone on the far east of that radius has an appointment at 10am. They forget to do the math and arrive the 2.5 min late, then someone from the far west of the radius forgets, and they arrive early. It just gets very messy very quickly. It's why before time zones, each city had their own time. And sometimes the city further west was actually at an early time than the city to the east, which made it confusing. Unfortunately, adding and subtracting an hour is the easiest mental math, and that's why time zones will remain as they are for the most part.
@felixstrider
@felixstrider 7 ай бұрын
alternatively make a collective effort to understand UTC time. thats kind of asking more of people though
@Verchiel_
@Verchiel_ 7 ай бұрын
yup it sounds nice on the surface having astronomically accurate time display down to the minute if not second, but so much infrastructure and just day to day life relies on the large number basis, it'd just become a huge hassle to account for it as you said. Timezones can already be a pain calculating down to the hour if you wanna remember how many hours a friend of yours is ahead. Everyone in the world hitting the next hour at the same time is just convenient.
@Thorou
@Thorou 7 ай бұрын
@@Verchiel_ > Everyone in the world hitting the next hour at the same time *half-hour timezones have entered the chat*
@alexfauvel7611
@alexfauvel7611 7 ай бұрын
@@Verchiel_ Time zone every hour makes it manageable, can you imagine trying to organise a zoom call with time zones every second? Nightmare.
@sino_diogenes
@sino_diogenes 7 ай бұрын
I think a per-second timezone could work in an ultra-digital future where everyone uses devices that automatically adjust for local time zones. Debatable if that's a future we want, though.
@BS-vx8dg
@BS-vx8dg 7 ай бұрын
About 30 years ago I was teaching at one of 17 high schools in a fairly large school district. We had a "surplus" warehouse with discarded desks and tables and file cabinets and anything that anyone had wanted to get rid of from their school, and any teacher in the district could just walk through the warehouse and lay claim to any of this surplus, which would then be delivered by a district truck right to your classroom. I would go there a couple of times a year, occasionally getting a nice bookshelf or some such. Well, one day I came across a Geochron laying against some other stuff, and I silently jumped for joy. I immediately claimed it, having been familiar with Geochrons from numerous airports, most notably the Anchorage airport, where I would stare at it almost every minute I had between my connecting flights. I was teaching World Geography, and was eager to use it in my instruction, in those days when not every classroom had a computer. Well, the days went by, and the Geochron did not arrive. I went back to the warehouse to see when it would arrive, and it was explained to me that the warehouse personnel had been told the Geochron could not be brought to a classroom. But I checked, and it was gone. I have always believed that someone in the district office came along and stole my treasure. Life is full of corruption and other unfair events.
@nadamuchu
@nadamuchu 7 ай бұрын
as a deaf person it continues to astound me how small channels like yours can crank out such amazing content and consistently provide quality captions while companies with millions or billions of dollars at their disposal cannot.
@jasondashney
@jasondashney 7 ай бұрын
After watching enough, KZbin, I can't handle trying to watch something on the history channel on discovery channel or whatever. They are so corny and slow and overly dramatic and have so much filler that I just can't. I would way way way rather watch something like this video.
@BryanTorok
@BryanTorok 7 ай бұрын
Most English closed captions on YT are automatically generated by Google. And, yet they are better than almost all newscasts and live events.
@robert5
@robert5 7 ай бұрын
companies with millions or billions of dollars at their disposal are ALWAYS run by committees. A committee can not make an intelligent decisions. This is because every stupid person on the committee asserts input and uses their lack of intelligence to dumb down the product or outcome to their level for nothing more then the act of asserting control.
@itskdog
@itskdog 7 ай бұрын
​@@BryanTorok The auto captions regularly suck from my experience and make many mistakes. Proper captions that have been corrected are much better. KZbin even lets you upload a script of your video and it will do the timings for you, you just need to double-check and make sure it's all correct and doesn't mismatch with any adlibs you've done.
@Datamaskarl
@Datamaskarl 7 ай бұрын
I can't watch mediums that don't allow speeding up the material 1.5x-2x. When people sound slow at 2x the content isn't for me. ​@@jasondashney
@generaldisarray
@generaldisarray 7 ай бұрын
Ah the Geochron World Clock, a company I worked for had one set into a wall in the reception area. The original boss was very proud of it. Then his son took over the company, and after a few years decided that he didn't like the Geochron, thought it "looked dated, not cool, old manly". So he decided to get it torn out and then he covered the hole in the wall with big pictures of the company's products. By the time he finished the reception area looked like some sort of Gestapo waiting room with pictures and banners of the company's products on display. Employees and visitors would always comment and snigger at what he'd done to the reception. The Geochron World Clock, which was in perfect working order, was severely damaged by the idiot workmen that "removed" it, and was dumped in a skip.
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 7 ай бұрын
old and manly. Enjoy your corporate pride month events!
@generaldisarray
@generaldisarray 7 ай бұрын
@@DrDeuteron??
@laurencefraser
@laurencefraser 7 ай бұрын
​@@DrDeuteron pretty sure that's '(old man)ly' not 'old + manly'.
@generaldisarray
@generaldisarray 7 ай бұрын
@@laurencefraser spot on. I didn't make a mistake, I meant "old manly", as in being of a past era, of his forefather's era if you will.
@thegoodkidboy7726
@thegoodkidboy7726 7 ай бұрын
@@DrDeuteron meds
@malvoliosf
@malvoliosf 7 ай бұрын
My first thought was: I could make this from a flat-panel and a Raspberry for less than what you’d pay in replacement parts. Now, after seeing all the elegant bits of steam-punk-esque, I totally see the value of an electromechanical global clock/calendar.
@laurencefraser
@laurencefraser 7 ай бұрын
It's either clockpunk (if you're going for a genre or aesthetic, and even then stretching the defnition a bit) or just straight up electromechanical (if you're describing the technology). Too little steam and too much electricity to be steampunk.
@donaldasayers
@donaldasayers 7 ай бұрын
Geochron's latest models are just this.
@honeybadgerisme
@honeybadgerisme 7 ай бұрын
ikr? Now I want one!
@yourTurb0
@yourTurb0 6 ай бұрын
You could put a bendable display in and could display whatever dates and upgrades you want to see.
@snarkcharming
@snarkcharming 5 ай бұрын
Same thought
@a62dave
@a62dave 7 ай бұрын
I lived on “Zulu” time for many years in the military. There was zero confusion as to when that important phone call between Berlin and DC was going to be.
@SuperAWaC
@SuperAWaC 6 ай бұрын
Ah yes nothing like setting your alarm to wake you up just before the sun comes up at half past midnight. it's like living above the arctic circle where the clock has no meaning except it's 90% of the world
@michaelbauers8800
@michaelbauers8800 5 ай бұрын
I work on software as a contractor for the US Space Force. And I often have to juggle multiple time standards in the software involving leap seconds, and mission times which are based on simulated data. It can take me a fair amount of time, sometimes, to look at logs and figure out how to line them up time-wise. It's simpler when the software is run for real. But in the lab, it can be a pain. Be lovely if all the times were UTC.
@gavinjenkins899
@gavinjenkins899 7 ай бұрын
The international dateline always knows where it is. It knows this, because it knows where it isn't. And by subtracting this from where it wasn't, it arrives at the inverse of where it should be, which we call error.
@techobservations8238
@techobservations8238 7 ай бұрын
@gavinjenkins899 and another scrubbed Starliner Launch
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 7 ай бұрын
funny, but slightly offensive. The IDL does not need a Kalman filter.
@Mikee512
@Mikee512 7 ай бұрын
This could have been avoided had you opted to spend extra on the retroencabulator telemetry ground control system.
@usaturnuranus
@usaturnuranus 7 ай бұрын
This is Retroencabulated Telemetric Ground Control to Major Tom...
@Vinemaple
@Vinemaple 6 ай бұрын
The International Date Line is eepy.
@m.i.c.h.o
@m.i.c.h.o 7 ай бұрын
I never realized how small your channel was, especially for how many videos you've posted and the quality of each one. Great video, I'd never seen a Geochron before but this was very interesting.
@idiotmcgee4870
@idiotmcgee4870 7 ай бұрын
Exactly, you deserve SO MANY MORE followers
@robzyb
@robzyb 7 ай бұрын
I know right?!
@Dionj615
@Dionj615 7 ай бұрын
Earned my sub! C'mon algorithm!
@nuxboxen
@nuxboxen 7 ай бұрын
another ++ from me
@i-am-ber
@i-am-ber 7 ай бұрын
Wow yeah great video! About to binge on your others! +1
@ericwiddison7523
@ericwiddison7523 7 ай бұрын
There is a Geochron in the headquarters building for Dynetics (now a subsidiary of Leidos) in Huntsville, Alabama. It probably hasn't had any maintenance in years, to include setting the date and time. As a result, it is off by months. Still, it's mesmerizing. Thank you for showing us how it works.
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 7 ай бұрын
Fast or Slow? If the former, just unplug it, and come back in few months and lug it back in, I guess that latter you come back in 12-(a few) months?
@ericwiddison7523
@ericwiddison7523 7 ай бұрын
@@DrDeuteron There is a way to simply set it to the right date and time. The problem is that no one is taking the time to do it. Maybe they got tired of the hassle after one too many power outages?
@hedgehog3180
@hedgehog3180 7 ай бұрын
I did not expect a luxury company like Geochron to be this helpful with repairs.
@downey2294
@downey2294 7 ай бұрын
it was a different era
@finlayfarquhar9609
@finlayfarquhar9609 7 ай бұрын
Sounds a lot like a company of helpful nerds who made a complex hobby project that just happened to be a sought after due to how fancy/useful it was
@parmesanzero7678
@parmesanzero7678 7 ай бұрын
That used to be part of what luxury was.
@nc7807
@nc7807 7 ай бұрын
It's the difference between people who are just in the business for money and people who genuinely enjoy their work.
@chaos.corner
@chaos.corner 7 ай бұрын
I'm going to pass this video on to Louis Rossmann if he even notices my comment.
@MickTee2k
@MickTee2k 7 ай бұрын
What a gorgeous clock! Fun fact about AC/frequency powered clocks - the motor they use will randomly start in either rotational direction. There is a clever spring-based mechanism that comes into play if the motor starts up in the wrong direction - it winds up the spring which eventually kicks it back in the correct direction. If that spring breaks, your clock could power up going anti-clockwise. :)
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 7 ай бұрын
The just look at through a mirror....oops, if it's made from antimatter.. CPT=1, after all.
@jasondashney
@jasondashney 7 ай бұрын
Perhaps that explains some thing I had with an appliance. I had an air fryer that had a spinning blade in the middle, and every time I would start it it would run in the opposite direction I wanted so I would have to turn it off and then on again.
@MickTee2k
@MickTee2k 7 ай бұрын
@@jasondashney That would be the reason. Designers obviously decided direction wasn't important and used a cheaper motor.
@jasondashney
@jasondashney 6 ай бұрын
@@MickTee2k interesting. It could’ve been one tiny spring away from working like a charm. Thanks for the confirmation.
@05Matz
@05Matz 6 ай бұрын
@@jasondashney Most microwave turntables are the same way, so they start in a random direction.
@seppestas
@seppestas 7 ай бұрын
19:58 “Your devices would effortlessly be adjusting the display of their clocks”. Tell me you’re not a software engineer without telling me you’re not a software engineer.
@anterprites
@anterprites 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, that's the point where I lost the plot XD I agree about removing time zones and just making time universal. And then just adjust the events to the time and everyone being on the same time.
@SnakebitSTI
@SnakebitSTI 7 ай бұрын
It's effortless because you import a library to do it and blame all the bugs on upstream issues ;)
@czechvirusS
@czechvirusS 7 ай бұрын
I dont think solar time would be good. Rail has to operate on some timedrame and having time adjust as you go east and west means we are more likely to arrive too early or too late. Everything in the behind the scenes would have to run directly on UTC. Maybe just use utc and every location will set their work time according to it. Like in west of china where normal work hours 7-13 are like 10-16
@rdoursenaud
@rdoursenaud 7 ай бұрын
It would be less effort than what we're currently doing with tzdata.
@danilooliveira6580
@danilooliveira6580 7 ай бұрын
@@anterprites it would take a while to adjust to local time, what is day and what is night. but we could start by using both, it would make making plans with friends in different timezones a lot easier when I'm not trying to figure out what timezone they are using.
@beepbop6697
@beepbop6697 7 ай бұрын
Computer programmer here: best practice is to store all date/time as UTC (or GMT) in your database. Do all processing in that same timezone -- only ever convert to a user's local timezone at the last possible instant, which is when you want to display it to a user in a UI (such as in their web browser). I love your analog world map clock!
@downey2294
@downey2294 7 ай бұрын
who needs date times when you have unix timestamps B)
@privacyvalued4134
@privacyvalued4134 7 ай бұрын
@@downey2294 This is better but still extraordinarily flawed. What happens when you travel to another planet? Or even a moon? Systems around the UNIX timestamp make the false assumption that a day, the time it takes for one rotation of a planetary body around itself, is precisely 86400 seconds for not only Earth but the entire universe. You also have to anchor zero at a specific point in time. The UNIX timestamp is sort of anchored at Jan 1, 1970 accurate to within 24 hours, which isn't great if you need better accuracy than that or need to store a date/time earlier than that.
@downey2294
@downey2294 7 ай бұрын
@@privacyvalued4134 technically the UNIX timestamp doesn't make any assumptions about how long a day is. the converter makes all the assumptions. you can make it as convoluted as you'd like. even going as far as to account for orbits and the rotation of the planet or other planetary bodies.
@KyleDavis328
@KyleDavis328 7 ай бұрын
Not GMT, GMT adjusts for summer and winter time. UTC only. @@privacyvalued4134 Unix time is anchored at exactly midnight, 00:00:00 GMT on Jan 1, 1970, so it is accurate to the second, and that's just the epoch, negative Unix time can also exist, a negative timestamp is the number of seconds before the epoch, and like @downey2294 said, the timestamp doesn't make any assumptions about anything except the length of a second. You could make a Unix timestamp interpreter that reads in the date in any calendar system you want, with any number of seconds in a minute, minutes in an hour, hours in a day, etc. as long as you can convert between 1970-01-01T00:00:00+00:00 and your desired calendaring system you can use Unix timestamps.
@SnakebitSTI
@SnakebitSTI 7 ай бұрын
@@downey2294Because Unix timestamps tell you exactly one thing: How many seconds since 1970-01-01T00:00:00Z. There is no way to specify a particular day or year.
@miketheburns
@miketheburns 7 ай бұрын
and obviously I want a geochron now
@dmacarthur5356
@dmacarthur5356 7 ай бұрын
2 min ago I didn't know I wanted one. Now I must have one.
@SirReginaldBumquistIII
@SirReginaldBumquistIII 7 ай бұрын
Long now or right now?
@vincentlemoinefr
@vincentlemoinefr 7 ай бұрын
I looked it up and and the price... Damn... They make digital ones now but it completely defeat the purpose imo
@miketheburns
@miketheburns 7 ай бұрын
@@SirReginaldBumquistIII unsigned long long now ;-)
@kippy1500
@kippy1500 5 ай бұрын
I have one if interested. Hubby passed away. I have the early 70’s one. Not need anymore.
@brady5829
@brady5829 7 ай бұрын
YES youtube algorithm CORRECT SELECTION good job! This is very high quality content, well recorded edited and presented. Definitely a creator that deserves heaps of video revenue.
@octoBadger
@octoBadger 6 ай бұрын
Agreed - the algo did good this time
@sammxn-w2v
@sammxn-w2v 6 ай бұрын
The algorithm can't hear you
@RussellFlowers
@RussellFlowers 7 ай бұрын
Oh great, another expensive thing I never knew I had to have.
@jasondashney
@jasondashney 7 ай бұрын
I'm very angry about this video because now I might get one, and I have this thing with clocks; I never ever ever have a display of a clock in my house because I don't like knowing what time I go to sleep. So now I want something which I am able to buy, but probably shouldn't, and fundamentally don't want anyway.
@GameDesignerJDG
@GameDesignerJDG 7 ай бұрын
In software development, we have one unified timezone, and we call it UTC. Everything else is just a different way of displaying that timezone, if that makes sense.
@05Matz
@05Matz 6 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, the rules for determining WHICH different way of translating UTC for display to use in each particular instance are... devilishly complex, and constantly changing. I get tzdata package updates what feels like every week or two, telling that some country somewhere has changed the start of daylight savings time for some province of theirs, scheduled to start some number of years in the future... If it was just "UTC+longitude factor=Local Solar Time", that would indeed be simpler, though I feel like some uses would be better using UTC directly, others local solar time. It's trying to make a system that works for all use cases that lead to the modern mess of competing offsets.
@GameDesignerJDG
@GameDesignerJDG 6 ай бұрын
@@05Matz for sure. I don't have to deal with managing that all that much, luckily. My clients only display times internally, so I see a date here and a timestamp there, but we don't worry about displaying anything other times relative to the client's main office.
@Sugar3Glider
@Sugar3Glider 7 ай бұрын
I'm now arranging a 3 hour drive (one way) to go purchase one of these from Craigslist. Thanks!
@Sugar3Glider
@Sugar3Glider 7 ай бұрын
Someone bought it out from under me =\
@TiredKnitter
@TiredKnitter 7 ай бұрын
Oh no! I hope another shows up soon!
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 7 ай бұрын
@@Sugar3Glider He's prob. in the comments. Make an offer.
@Cyromantik
@Cyromantik 7 ай бұрын
​@@Sugar3GliderSorry to hear that!
@megarollxrgmbroadcasting91
@megarollxrgmbroadcasting91 5 ай бұрын
@@Sugar3Gliderlmaooo such is life huh…
@Akael01
@Akael01 7 ай бұрын
OMG Someone who remembers Time Cube!!!! I worked at the hosting company he hosted at back in the day. Also thanks for creating a new fascination!
@VixyFish
@VixyFish 6 ай бұрын
Time Cube has been a staple of our household vernacular for years and years!
@neuroplush7657
@neuroplush7657 7 ай бұрын
You're a very cool and very approachable creator. I love your library and your infectious enthusiasm for stuff like this. I wish you the best with your channel.
@SirMildredPierce
@SirMildredPierce 7 ай бұрын
This is really weird because just last night I watched The Hunt for Red October and I noticed on the wall of James Earl Jones's office was one of these clocks and I was like, oh yeah, I vaguely remember those, I really wonder how they work. And now this video is posted and somehow shows up and is randomly suggested to me.
@fotav
@fotav 7 ай бұрын
I had this exact same experience, (except I watched it with family on Monday) and would have posted the same comment, if you hadn’t already. We even commented about the clock and discussed it for a bit
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 7 ай бұрын
Worse, for me, yesterday I was in the jacuzzi talking about the book Longitude, time zones, railroads and Allan variance.
@VixyFish
@VixyFish 6 ай бұрын
OMG now I have to go re-watch that for the billionth time
@TommyClark
@TommyClark 7 ай бұрын
This is one of the most brilliantly nerdy videos I've seen on KZbin in a long time. And I now have a new item to put at the top of my wishlist! It's videos like this that make me so grateful for YT's recommended algorithm. Congrats on the awesome clock!
@ericbrye9145
@ericbrye9145 7 ай бұрын
Excellent video! I picked up mine thru Marketplace for $200. It was sent off for rebuild in 2006 And runs perfect. It was in a company's boardroom that was getting a makeover and was too 'old school' for the new CEO (he liked it but had nowhere to put it - I suggested their new digital model since he had a new huge monitor on the wall... He was quite happy with it!) I did go to LED'S and internally wired a Bluetooth plug inside so I can have the lights work on a schedule. I have always loved these clocks. Thanks again!
@jasondashney
@jasondashney 7 ай бұрын
How much did you have to pay to get it rebuilt?
@ericbrye9145
@ericbrye9145 7 ай бұрын
@@jasondashney it was rebuilt in 2006. I got it about 8 months ago. I am not sure of the cost now. I just lucked unto a good deal.
@jasondashney
@jasondashney 6 ай бұрын
@@ericbrye9145 that’s awesome. I hope you enjoy it.
@xurtis
@xurtis 7 ай бұрын
Spoken like someone who has never scheduled a meeting across multiple time zones
@Cartocopia
@Cartocopia 7 ай бұрын
Re: Tangent 2, growing up in Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada and living in a subdivision built in the 50's, every kitchen of every house I saw had a recessed clock outlet (with one two prong receptacle) and a built in clock hook. They were wired to the same circuit as the refrigerator (the only thing allowed on a fridge circuit by code, iirc) so if you noticed the clock was stopped you would know not to open the fridge becuase the power was off!
@Gallery90
@Gallery90 4 ай бұрын
My father was a carpenter. When he built our house, there was a recessed outlet above the sink. That used to be normal.
@Redmenace96
@Redmenace96 7 ай бұрын
The World Map Flow Chart was pure gold.
@CaptainSeamus
@CaptainSeamus 7 ай бұрын
XKCD seldom disappoints!
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 6 ай бұрын
Nice to see someone actually using it! I've come across very few old maps to identify...
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 6 ай бұрын
Using the count of Germanys as an identifier always cracks me up...Though it's also useful for dating modern maps pre/post 1989 (Fall of the Berlin Wall/German reunification) too. 👍 One: Pre-1940 or post 1989. 🇩🇪 Two: 1946-1989. 🇪🇺☭ Only one... _But it's _*_huge!_*_ :_ 1941-1945. 😉
@danko6582
@danko6582 7 ай бұрын
This is the Antikythera mechanism of 1987.
@clutz23
@clutz23 7 ай бұрын
We used to have a Geochron clock at our yacht club. I always enjoyed looking at it, wondering how it operated. It stopped working recently and we replaced it with a TV, which does not have the charm that mechanical clock had. If you look behind the TV you can see the gaping hole where it used to sit.
@heatshield
@heatshield 7 ай бұрын
Do they still have it? Might be interested in purchasing it if you know anyone.
@clutz23
@clutz23 7 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠@@heatshieldI’m not sure what happened to it, I was not a board member at the time. From what I remember Geochron did not want it so we either threw it away or sold it.
@DrDeuteron
@DrDeuteron 7 ай бұрын
@@superdf not sure how you got that, but yes, God Emperor will crush Weekend at Obamas.
@ninjalectualx
@ninjalectualx 7 ай бұрын
Your yacht club is shockingly low class. You should feel embarrassed lol
@aschmitt89
@aschmitt89 7 ай бұрын
This is amazing! I had no idea this amazing piece of history exists! And your job of restoring this piece is astounding! And I love that the company is perfectly fine with people restoring these masterpieces!
@DaveEtchells
@DaveEtchells 7 ай бұрын
The algorithm, dropped you out of my feed for a while, great to have found you again! About transferring blind holes that you need to align to, here’s a trick I learned from a woodworking channel: 1) Take a piece of some wide tape with a weak adhesive (blue painter’s tape) and apply it to the part with the holes you want to transfer. 2) You can find the holes by feel through the thin tape. Mark their centers with a little hole made with so,e small pointy thing. (Machinist’s stylus, pin, etc. (Make sure the hole is big enough to see from the other side later though, and you may want to hit each one with a dot of black sharpie to make them stand out a bit better.) 3) Make reference marks of some sort that you can use to align the tape as a whole to the part you need to make the holes in. 4) Apply some strips of double-sided tape on top of the blue tape, enough to hold it to the part you’re going to drill without shifting. 5) Peel the blue tape off the piece and stick it down to the part you need to drill holes in, using the double-sided tape on the back of it. Pay attention to orientation and use the marks made in (3) above to align it. 6) Find the holes you made made in (2) that bark the centers of your drill holes and punch them into your workpiece. 7) Drill away, peel,and toss the tape. Easy peasy, works every time :-)
@allenrusselljr
@allenrusselljr 7 ай бұрын
Thank you your video has defragged some fragmented memories. That is a magical map. I saw one at our local mall in thr late 1980s. There were actually two malls next to each other. One had that map and the other had a giant sphere that would very very very slowly show an internal orange illumination that spread around the "world". Even as a kid i wondered was it the same company that made the map and tje giant sphere. I was a kid but i remember it being twice the height of my father (6ft). A couple years later they combined the malls and renamed it. Those awesome features were replaced by a giant marble maze (with bells and dings). Around the same time the downtown mall removed its monorail . Anyone wondering this is in Rochester NY. The tei nalls were greece town and long ridge malls. The downtown one was midtown. The monorail was an exciting experience in the 80s.
@GopnikStar
@GopnikStar 7 ай бұрын
I came for the colourful mechanical doodad and was not disappointed, that was a colourful mechanical doodad
@randorandom
@randorandom 7 ай бұрын
You sir have earned my subscription. Very enjoyable, very informative! Looking forward to more great stuff!
@martinmacdonald
@martinmacdonald 7 ай бұрын
In the late 90s my boss had one of these installed in his office, I recall it costing about $6-7k in total installed - I was fascinated by it. Utterly fascinated. No clue why youtube suggested this, but loved it, great video!
@ptrinch
@ptrinch 7 ай бұрын
I remembered seeing one of these at Sharper Image (or could have been The Nature Company) back in the 80's and absolutely fell in love with it. But as you said, it was incredibly expensive and I was a high school student. Thanks for the memories. I may have to go find one for myself like you did.
@stefansynths
@stefansynths 7 ай бұрын
Tangent 2.1 Laurens Hammond, of later organ fame, sold synchronous motor clocks. At the time they were useless because power line frequency wasn't regulated. So he gifted the clocks to the employees of the power companies!
@EmonEconomist
@EmonEconomist 7 ай бұрын
Haha, that's brilliant!
@miketheburns
@miketheburns 7 ай бұрын
the "generic stock footage" part had me in stitches!
@JxH
@JxH 7 ай бұрын
There's a very affordable option called 'Ham Clock' software, and it's available bundled with a tiny Linux computer (ref. "Inovato"). End result is a tiny computer with an HDMI output, as well as a local network address for browser display. In addition to the world map with day/night terminator, it also offers solar data, and Moon phase, plus plenty of Ham Radio widgets. It's great fun for under $100.
@petereade4936
@petereade4936 7 ай бұрын
Or try 'Simon's World Map' software
@blendpinexus1416
@blendpinexus1416 7 ай бұрын
threw this onto my raspberry pi and hooked up an old crappy monitor. works stupendously well to the point that my house mate agreed to make the common room tv default to showing this along with some weather data as the screen saver
@andreasu.3546
@andreasu.3546 7 ай бұрын
@@blendpinexus1416 Hope it's not an OLED.
@blendpinexus1416
@blendpinexus1416 7 ай бұрын
@@andreasu.3546 it's some led backlit lcd
@sergepetrov8598
@sergepetrov8598 7 ай бұрын
xearth is free
@ChessIsJustAGame
@ChessIsJustAGame 7 ай бұрын
I remember seeing one on a high-end Sun computer monitor and I just had to have it. I spent some time programming my 8086 powered TIPC with a color monitor and video card. Reagan was president and I worked at Texas Instruments. My highschool trig and recent programming abilities plus astronomy hobby all came together. A few years later my first shareware support was for a much more "professional" program to be used on a 386-based PC. I still see that map in my head, now living where winter/summer day/night variations are much greater. And SAD is a very real thing in the great northwet (sic) There is a reason Seattle and coffee is a thing.
@ChessIsJustAGame
@ChessIsJustAGame 7 ай бұрын
P.S. I watched all the way to the end hopefully to get "donate" to your modern shareware bucket.
@henrik.norberg
@henrik.norberg 7 ай бұрын
As an obsessed aspie with understanding things, thanks for letting me join you for this marvelous and thought-provoking journey. I don't really know why I clicked on this but I could not stop watching! If someone asks me what I really want, I do know now. So envious! Easy sub.
@TuneTide-do1ps
@TuneTide-do1ps 7 ай бұрын
I pick up a pre-loved unit this past Monday - had been on the lookout for one for the last 15 years >.< Thank you very much for the informative video - now to look at getting new shades and replacing those myself.
@florisoldemaat9385
@florisoldemaat9385 7 ай бұрын
THIS is what I came for when I clicked on the youtube icon this friday evening. Very informative and yet so awesome, what a clock, I need one now.
@JillKnapp
@JillKnapp 6 ай бұрын
TWiV sent me here, and I'm so happy for it. This is ridiculously, unfathomably cool!
@Rob2
@Rob2 7 ай бұрын
Great to see that clock back again! I remember there was one in our megalomanic shopping center, that was built in 1973. So it was an early model. It was mounted in a wall near the customer service desk of a large store. Indeed a beautiful display. I presume that once in four years you need to tinker with it to handle the leap day? It likely does not handle that itself.
@stevebabiak6997
@stevebabiak6997 7 ай бұрын
Leap seconds are even more effort than leap years …
@Rob2
@Rob2 7 ай бұрын
@@stevebabiak6997 No, leap seconds are just handled within the usual setting of correct time. Presumably it runs on a synchronous AC motor, so depending on the long-time accuracy of the grid it may need to be set once in a while. But leap years change the mapping between day-of-week and date, it has to be put back a day in the date without affecting the day-of-week. So you cannot just turn it off for 24 hours, the position of the day-of-week band has to be changed as well.
@spacemissing
@spacemissing 7 ай бұрын
I learned of the Geochron more than 30 years ago. Having no money to buy one, I have had to let it occupy a small back corner of my mind. But if conditions become favourable, I will get one. There is an electronic version, the Geochron Atlas, which connects to a 4k monitor or TV. Not as charming as the mechanical one, but it is an option to consider.
@tl7535
@tl7535 7 ай бұрын
I think this is the best video I’ve seen about the GEOCHRON to date. For something that truly is the greatest clock ever made, it surprises me there aren’t more videos on this thing. One thing that’s cool about the new models, besides the more vibrant map, is that the sun is lit by an orange LED, so it’s not a black shadow like on the old clocks. It’s more aesthetically pleasing and maybe a simple mod you can do for your clock. About the only thing missing from this clock is some sort of moon phase complication. That would be the ultimate.
@BrilliantDesignOnline
@BrilliantDesignOnline 7 ай бұрын
The reason I watched this video is because at our local Sykes Restaurant in Kalispell, Montana, they have one on the wall in the foyer. Always fascinating, and more so now that you have revealed the internals. A beautiful piece of art and science. Well made video, as well.
@Zonker66
@Zonker66 7 ай бұрын
I don't care about people that finally got their $200,000... but you getting your wish gave me some joy. I like to see a fellow geek attain a small dream. It looks awesome.
@Jett-n-gin
@Jett-n-gin 7 ай бұрын
Wow I went to subscribe expecting you to have at least 500k. Underrated content for sure
@_Funtime60
@_Funtime60 7 ай бұрын
20:38 Great idea except for when you need to be somewhere by some time.
@RedHedDes
@RedHedDes 7 ай бұрын
You have to be aware of if you're travelling east or west to save or lose time lol
@furl_w
@furl_w 7 ай бұрын
And those times are all zulu currently by proxy and in this theory by definition.
@blendpinexus1416
@blendpinexus1416 7 ай бұрын
honestly i think we'd be able to adjust for such a thing. it'd take a while (possible a generation or two) before society as a whole has adapted to it.
@CharlesVanNoland
@CharlesVanNoland 7 ай бұрын
Which was the whole point of time zones in the first place - so that local areas could operate on the same time and function synchronously. If we all operated on exact solar time we'd have to account for the time shift any time we traveled east/west. With the USA centered at ~40deg N that would roughly mean that traveling a mile east/west would entail a time difference of ~4.5 seconds. If you have a 50 mile drive to an appointment it would be a a 3.77 minute difference in time - which isn't super bad I suppose. For people at the equator a 50 mile trip east/west would be even less of a difference at ~3.5 seconds per east/west mile, or ~2.9 minutes for a 50 miles trip. People in Canada ~55deg N would have about a six second delta per mile, which means ~5 minutes difference for a 50 mile trip. Still not too bad, I think. In Alaska at ~65deg N they'd have about an 8.2 second delta per mile, so at 50 miles it would be almost 7 minutes. There aren't really any population centers beyond 70deg N or below 40deg S, so ~8.5 second delta per mile would be the extent of the time delta most humans had to content with - and most humans live between 40deg S and 65deg N so it would be a few seconds per mile. Perfectly acceptable in my book. People already have to account for leaving early/later depending on traffic, what difference would it make if time shift had to be accounted for too, when it's only a few seconds per mile? Maybe OP is on to something here! Humans could get used to accounting for leaving a few minutes early if they're headed toward where the sun rises and leaving a bit later if they're traveling toward where it sets. How hard can that be? If they're traveling north/south then it's not really a thing they'll have to deal with. Plenty of people already live near time zone divisions and have to account for it being an hour earlier or later just a few miles from their home already. People would grow up and learn how many minutes they gain/lose by going to neighboring population towns and cities and it would become common knowledge - heck, maybe it could be included on road signs that say how many miles it is to the next destinations. Originally, when OP had said we should move to a whole new time system, I assumed they were going to argue for everyone being on UTC. Then they went and proposed time zones on steroids. I think both options are better than the wonky time zone garbage we have now!
@_Funtime60
@_Funtime60 7 ай бұрын
@@CharlesVanNoland sorry, forgot to add a /s. This would be a horrible idea.
@guss77
@guss77 7 ай бұрын
The best part of the video, for me, was the demonstration of usage of the xkcd map dating flow chart. I never saw a map with multiple Yemens, so that was very interesting.
@RoySATX
@RoySATX 7 ай бұрын
Mechanical genius is so much more satisfying than its digital counterpart.
@jasondashney
@jasondashney 7 ай бұрын
All of the people in the comments who say you could do this with software in a flatscreen look at something like this in a totally different way than others do. I absolutely love the concept of people problem solving in the physical world as opposed to the digital.
@scotty3114
@scotty3114 7 ай бұрын
​@@jasondashneyBoth can be very neat. But you need a program printout to properly appreciate the software approach.
@pineapplepizza27
@pineapplepizza27 7 ай бұрын
In my opinion, it's a very smart business move for Geochron to support people servicing old units. Most people have probably never heard of or seen one of these and every working unit that exists out there boosts awareness of the product. Also selling parts is probably a more reliable revenue stream for such a high end low volume business. Like it's a cool product and I'm honestly not surprised people would want one for display. They should sell a low end model also honestly.
@johnwalterc
@johnwalterc 7 ай бұрын
At work we had a clock that lost 15 to 20 min a day. Replaced the clock and it had the same problem. Told the other employee that we need the electricians over to check the power. Turns out that every time someone used the photocopier the clock would stop. Weird.
@analoghardwaretops3976
@analoghardwaretops3976 7 ай бұрын
Simpie! ....What does one do when taking a photo...one Stands still..... Same with the photo copier taking the photo of the clock...it locks up.... its movement to be still...😅😅😅
@johnwalterc
@johnwalterc 7 ай бұрын
@@analoghardwaretops3976 HA HA HA....The photocopier was using so much power/electricity the cycles per second could not be read by the clock. My solution was to ask if the photocopier could be on its own dedicated circuit.
@laurencefraser
@laurencefraser 7 ай бұрын
@@johnwalterc There's a case to be made that, to avoid potentially encountering similar issues in the future with other devices, the Clock should have been on a seperate circuit... not sure how valid that argument would be, not being an electrician (and having never encountered such clocks in my life, to the best of my knowledge. Seems like they weren't that common here).
@Comrade.Question
@Comrade.Question 7 ай бұрын
My local science museum had one of these, I hadn't thought about them for decades but I recognized it instantly from the thumbnail. Really cool to finally see how they work!
@Dis-Emboweled
@Dis-Emboweled 7 ай бұрын
Ever since I saw The Hunt for Red October in theaters and saw the map on the wall behind James Earl Jones, I always wondered what it was. Then if found out, and saw the price! 😱 Great video!
@ingamelevi1929
@ingamelevi1929 7 ай бұрын
"International because it's 150km from Canada" Actually... international because international flights are allowed to arrive and depart from there. It's a way to distinguish local-only airports from ones authorized for international flights at a glance.
@arglebargle42
@arglebargle42 7 ай бұрын
Fascinating look at an interesting mechanism. Love all these oldschool analogue devices and all the creativity that went into making them work. Thank you for sharing your repair work and all the company details. I've never wanted to own a complicated clock so much.
@rossbulcock552
@rossbulcock552 7 ай бұрын
loved the xkcd tangent!
@GamingDad
@GamingDad 7 ай бұрын
This video got me hooked as much as technology connections . Would be cool to see you two do a collab.
@scottzehrung4829
@scottzehrung4829 7 ай бұрын
I still remember the first time I saw a GeoChron in my commander’s office and the last time in the G.M.’s office of an aerospace company where I worked. I always felt a dynamic yet calming force…seemed alive to me.
@malenky4057
@malenky4057 7 ай бұрын
This video is one of those hidden gems of KZbin. I have no idea how I got here, but I watched enthralled the entire time.
@etmax1
@etmax1 7 ай бұрын
I hate your idea of getting rid of time zones, imagine if you drive across town to a store and find it's closed because it's using a different local time, or you have a commute to work say between 2 work places a 100 km apart, total madness.
@jj74qformerlyjailbreak3
@jj74qformerlyjailbreak3 7 ай бұрын
IAM really glad I found this channel. All my life I've wanted to build my own designed clock. I think after watching this video I may have a starting point. Complex-Simplicity one, not only may become the new name of a channel, but also building this clock may prove to be the same. The only electrical component I'm going to use is a capacitor. One charge cycle a day for 365 days of the year. Well I may need a few more components but we're going to keep the electronics simple, and the mechanics complicated. 😂
@Electrical_Instructor
@Electrical_Instructor 7 ай бұрын
Backhanded complement warning: I clicked on your video out of boredom and curiosity. Three minutes in, I really thought about clicking on that little X in the upper right-hand corner of the window. But, i hung in there, and became not only entertained but intrigued by your descriptive dialog, great video, and mild humor. All in all, what a great video and definitely not a waste of time. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thank you.
@bethaltair812
@bethaltair812 6 ай бұрын
I had no idea something so beautifully complex as this existed, I'd watch 2 hours on the people who made this , how and why any day of the week!
@jbsaun
@jbsaun 7 ай бұрын
Tom Scott's newsletter brought me here
@joonglegamer9898
@joonglegamer9898 7 ай бұрын
That was super interesting unlike a lot of youtube videos out there. Thanks for showing us a piece of history most of us are probably not even aware of.
@TheGodOfAllThatWas
@TheGodOfAllThatWas 7 ай бұрын
Ack.... I can get on board with everyone just using UTC, but Let's not add so many versions of noon, that I have to ask people not only what time they expect something, but what exact spot on earth they are at. Some links to the clock company in the description would have been nice.
@voodoochild1954
@voodoochild1954 7 ай бұрын
Just came across your video today as I just received a geochron as a retirement gift last night. I never heard of these but now I can’t wait to mount it and turn it on.
@floodtheinbox
@floodtheinbox 7 ай бұрын
On tangent 3, it would be incredibly easy to geo-locate someone if you knew what time it was for them at the same moment it was for yourself, so it could be considered a security issue.
@Attoparsec
@Attoparsec 7 ай бұрын
That would only narrow their location down to a spherical wedge 7.5 arcseconds wide, or about 5900 square kilometers stretching from pole to pole.
@floodtheinbox
@floodtheinbox 7 ай бұрын
@@Attoparsec I guess it would matter by what means one came to know someone else’s time. If it were, say, via a livestream or something, one could narrow the lat down quite a bit based on climate conditions. (And wether or not the target were in a boat 😉)
@floodtheinbox
@floodtheinbox 7 ай бұрын
Overall it’s a really neat thought experiment. Like, would people who travel keep experiencing time in a linear way, or would they start to “feel” it in a relative way? Would GPS directions give you two times? Because the measured amount of time you spend in the car driving would become less relevant if the time you arrive at your destination is what really matters. I’ve been thinking about it since I watched the video really neat stuff
@Nefville
@Nefville 7 ай бұрын
Marc from Long Island Watch has one of these and a JLC Atmos. You might find the atmos interesting, it uses small changes in air pressure to inflate or deflate a baffle and thus wind the mainspring. You can find them fairly reasonably and JLC is a company that while certainly luxury and expensive will always be around to fix it if it breaks.
@ablobofgarbage
@ablobofgarbage 7 ай бұрын
I think the solution to timezones is to just have a single timezone that everyone uses (for example i'll use gmt) everyone on earth would see 12 on their clocks at the same time, making international coordination problem free. The only problem with this proposal is that the farther you get from the chosen timezone the less your intuition works, noon could now be at 4 instead of 12, but this is just a matter of getting used to. It would be unreasonable to expect people to still work by the same schedule since for about half the world that would require being asleep during the day and awake at night, so i think people will naturally create their own local timezones that better match the sun. Instead of working 9-5 you may instead be working 6:22-2:10 because you live in a place where that matches the movement of the sun. One problem with timezones is that people on the west side often have to wake up before the sun has risen yet, this can even lead to health issues, my theory is that if the time is so out of phase with the movement of the sun people will just ignore it and pick times that make more sense.
@EmonEconomist
@EmonEconomist 7 ай бұрын
Completely agree! We'd probably have to retire terms like "midday" and "midnight" and just use twelve am/pm or come up with new names, but that's a minor issue (or even an opportunity) compared with the benefits of doing away with timezones altogether (which also removes the need for daylight savings anywhere!)
@slome815
@slome815 7 ай бұрын
Having places where what day it is change at some arbitrary time during the day would be such a hassle. Timezones work fine, they are such a small problem for most people.
@EmonEconomist
@EmonEconomist 7 ай бұрын
@@slome815 The point is that it wouldn't be arbitrary. It would be globally consistent.
@slome815
@slome815 7 ай бұрын
@@EmonEconomist It would still mean there are places where what day it is changes in the middle of the day. It's just not a good idea, it would lead to so much more confusion then simple time zones. It's at least better then the always local time idea that is in this video, where every online meeting would be dependent on your smartphone doing the conversion. Even calculating the time you travelled would be annoying.
@EmonEconomist
@EmonEconomist 7 ай бұрын
@@slome815 Agreed, the idea in this video goes way too far in the other direction and would be an absolute nightmare.
@NGC1433
@NGC1433 7 ай бұрын
This device is so awesome!!! And your vid about it! I got a giant-ass wall world map as a gift, like 6 by 3 feet - it changed my life. Some, not like revolutionized, but it changed. Spending before-bed time not doom-scrolling but oogling at different places of the world I did not know exist, or heard about but had no way to relate to them... Or lazy mornings imagening how I'd get back home from random places in the world, or where my next vacation could take place... it is amazingly educational!
@protheu5
@protheu5 7 ай бұрын
As a programmer I appreciate the idea of abandoning time zones.
@Starfireaw11
@Starfireaw11 6 ай бұрын
you weren't listening. He's proposing adding thousands of them...
@05Matz
@05Matz 6 ай бұрын
@@Starfireaw11 He's proposing adding a longitude-based delta instead of timezones. You'd just have to add ONE thing to UTC, and if the user isn't happy, that's their OS's "where am I" function being wrong.
@TheKeyote
@TheKeyote 7 ай бұрын
Where has your channel been all my life. This is my jam!
@bobbylox
@bobbylox 7 ай бұрын
I agree that we should do away with time zones, but I'd rather everyone just got used to GMT. I live in Chicago, but I don't see why I can't have lunch at 1800 just as easily as noon, and go to bed at 4.
@monad_tcp
@monad_tcp 7 ай бұрын
I work remote and people keep complaining I'm waking up 11am in the local time. Bit please, I use the UTC clock, now its not 11am, why do I care where the Sun is ? I don't work with cows or anything, computers are always powered 24/7 anyway.
@monad_tcp
@monad_tcp 7 ай бұрын
Maybe they're jealous that I don't need to wake up early.
@kenrickman6697
@kenrickman6697 7 ай бұрын
I agree, a single time seems far more practical than every device on the plant computing its own local time. For one thing, there are still a LOT of “dumb” clocks in the world. For another, it’s not always practical to rely on technology. I work in a field where I need to know not only time, but total time elapsed, pretty accurately, but where I am legally forbidden from using or having access to any form of electronic device other than a wristwatch. More importantly, I need to be able to communicate with people in other locations and reference specific times without confusion.
@needamuffin
@needamuffin 7 ай бұрын
I could see that argument 100 years ago, but with the level of connectedness we have today, timezones make *more* sense than when they were initially created. It unifies humanity's relationship to time. If you travel, you don't have to think about what local daylight hours are. You can communicate with someone on the other side of the planet and inherently share an understanding of their day. Doing away with timezones may make some things less ambiguous, but it would leave many more fundamental issues in its wake. Absolute time may seem like a good idea at first, but *relative* absolution is better. That's what timezones achieve (when they aren't overruled by governments being dumb).
@carcyaxon5532
@carcyaxon5532 7 ай бұрын
@@needamuffin I see so many comments advocating for one global time zone, but I completely agree with you. Time zones make things easier because they tell you what time OF DAY it is for someone, and having them 1 hour apart (mostly) makes it easy to convert between them. I suppose we could adapt to one global time zone by using the time of sunrise/set for a place instead of a time offset from UTC, but that's really no different to what we do now. Since we already use time zones and a single global time zone wouldn't fix or really change anything, it's best to keep using time zones like we do now. It's kind of like people saying our base ten number system isn't optimal, but changing things like that is more trouble than it's worth most of the time.
@waynebooker498
@waynebooker498 7 ай бұрын
I've never heard of that clock before. Way cool! I want one! Kudos for the Mitutoyo coffee mug. I don't agree the time zone thing at the end is good idea, but I am down with getting rid of daylight savings.
@miketheburns
@miketheburns 7 ай бұрын
UTC+longitude is also a really great idea. I wonder if we can get enough momentum on it so that we could potentially make the switch at the next "digital epoch": 2038 also loved the xkcd flowchart being put to use
@watchm4ker
@watchm4ker 7 ай бұрын
It really isn't. Time zones are needed as a way to convey the differences in day-night cycles *between humans.* They are there so I can verbally tell someone the meeting is at 1300 MST, and someone on the East or West coast will understand how far ahead or behind their time will be. Anything involving a computer will be using some derivation of UNIX time, and where timekeeping is concerned, they care nothing for abstract ideas like daylight hours.
@parkerbond9400
@parkerbond9400 7 ай бұрын
I think we need to take it one step further: the 5 o'clock somewhere time. Every second the exact place where it is 5'oclock changes. Instead of using times, we use place names where it is currently 5'o'clock, although we might need to get creative when it's 5 o'clock over the Pacific Ocean...
@EmonEconomist
@EmonEconomist 7 ай бұрын
​@@parkerbond9400That's when 5 o'clock gets a little fishy...
@k0nanick
@k0nanick 7 ай бұрын
this is so good! such a cool device, and heartwarming to hear about the positive interaction with the geochron manufacturer. Great backstories on the elements, tangent and overcoming issues!
@neatkefe
@neatkefe 7 ай бұрын
As I programmer I must fanatically protest to the one timezone per degree idea. What I've never understood is why the concept of "noon" must be as 12 o'clock for everyone. If we simply said that the entire earth started using UTC, it would not change anything, apart from when you need to set the alarm to get up in the morning. International online meetings would be easier to reason around, as "15:00" would be the exact same time all over the world, but for some it would be in the middle of the night, and for some of would be in the afternoon. The biggest challenge with this would be just that understanding, that one time does not equal that everyone would be up and about at that hour. But I still think that confusion is much less of a problem than the mess we are currently in. Always using "solar time" would be super problematic if we want to compare times between each other, or schedule something in the future, as you would always need to "adjust" a saved timestamp to where someone is geographically.
@k.k.9378
@k.k.9378 7 ай бұрын
It's 15:00. You want to call your uncle in Perth. Can you reasonably assume he'll be awake? Well, what's the time for him? 15:00, same as you. But what's the difference? Zero. Well, when does he usually wake up? You've never talked about it. Maybe if you take the hour *you* usually wake, and consider how fast the sun travels... You spend ten minutes calculating locations and offsets and find out that the sun should be as high for your uncle as it was for you twelve hours earlier. Maybe you could make a map of those numbers for the whole world - hey wait
@hannah42069
@hannah42069 7 ай бұрын
@@k.k.9378 Thank you for this comment because I've genuinely never thought of it that way
@alliejr
@alliejr 7 ай бұрын
This ridiculous idea makes your programming (slightly) easier at the expense of the entire rest of civilization.
@GoofballPaul
@GoofballPaul 7 ай бұрын
@@k.k.9378 I schedule voicecalls with friends overseas regularly and I have to fiddle with timezones and clarify what timezone I'm using every time I mention an hour, it would be much easier to simply remember "the ones in the east coast should be available by the time I've had lunch, and we have a pathfinder session at 23:00, period." than mess around with timezones. Same would go for your uncle scenario. "Ohhh but you would have to remember how many hours ahead or before you he is!" yeah because that's soooo different from remembering his timezone and knowing what his clock displays for him. Everyone using UTC wouldn't change much in regards to knowing whether others are asleep or what, but it wouldn't make it *more* difficult, and it would simplify scheduling a lot.
@neatkefe
@neatkefe 7 ай бұрын
@@alliejr isn't that what prigrammers always have been doing? 😀
@boredincan
@boredincan 7 ай бұрын
Are there any situations in the US like Tweed Heads and Coolangatta in Australia? The only thing that separates the two towns is the Queensland NSW border. One town finishes and the other starts with no gap. NSW observes Daylight Savings Time, whereas Qld doesn't. For six months of the year one town is an hour behind the other Fun at New Year's, as you get to celebrate twice in an hour, but otherwise a pain
@xinyuyang4613
@xinyuyang4613 7 ай бұрын
On a smaller scale, you would experience the acceleration and deceleration of displayed time when you’re driving on the road because they’re now“higher resolution” with tiny increments, and now you’re telling someone in the car “we’re 15 minutes away” but it would make no sense because you time and the time displayed on any devices wouldn’t move at the same rate 😅 Just use Zulu time if time zone is bothering you, like pilots or sailors or military people
@Neidzwiedz1
@Neidzwiedz1 7 ай бұрын
Our local library had one growing up and i loved it
@minortoterona2947
@minortoterona2947 7 ай бұрын
when fixing calendar becomes a fixing everything else too
@Tracequaza
@Tracequaza 7 ай бұрын
thank you, this was an interesting video and your presentation is concise and very well paced! I appreciate the lack of music, as I often find that distracting; perhaps this is a niche opinion but I think on all the technical aspects your video is a 10/10, and I would rank your writing and delivery similarly. thank you!
@twixerclawford
@twixerclawford 7 ай бұрын
I propose simplyfing the timezone thing way more into just... a single time zone being UTC and that way no one ever gets confused about when things occur. This will become more and more important as humans live in space or on different planets, since their days won't even be 24 hours anymore, so attempting to convert timezones will be even more convoluted and confusing than just "adding some amount to the hours." Years won't make sense either, so the entire calendar could be completely arbitrary. I actually created a "universal time calendar" to fix all these issues, with a year set to 360 days, each month 30 days exactly, and a week now being 6 days instead of 7. (5 weeks per month)
@EmonEconomist
@EmonEconomist 7 ай бұрын
Completely agree about having a single timezone per planet! Your calendar sounds similar to the one Tolkien created for the Elves (who liked to reckon in sixes and twelves, and whose calendar therefore had six-day weeks and six seasons per year, within longer cycles of 144 years).
@VagabondTE
@VagabondTE 7 ай бұрын
I saw one of these when I was in the military and just like you I fell in love instantly. They were always in the back of my mind as a "what I would do with a million dollars" thing.
@Sgrunterundt
@Sgrunterundt 7 ай бұрын
I have a different proposal to get rid of time zones: Just get rid of time zones altogether. Everyone uses UTC. Instead of "I live in UTC+8, but I generally get up and to work very early" it is "I normally wake up at 13, I am usually off work around 23, and I go to bed at 5 or 6." We'd quickly get used to it. Moving to somewhere else, wouldn't mean changing your clock, but changing your schedule. And jetlag would feel completely reasonable: "Of course I am tired. It is 2.30 and I am still used to going to bed at 20"
@Rob2
@Rob2 7 ай бұрын
The idea of "why don't we all run our clocks in UTC and then have some local offset in living habits depending on the longitude" seems good at first, and here in Europe that would work well, and in the USA too, but consider that in east Asia and Australia it would mean that the date would change in the middle of the day. Things like "I'll see you next tuesday" lose their meaning because it depends on whether you see them in the morning or in the afternoon what day that would be.
@GoofballPaul
@GoofballPaul 7 ай бұрын
@@Rob2 FINALLY someone mentions the ONE good argument against "oops all UTC". Everyone else I've seen arguing against it proposes utterly nonsensical arguments TToTT but this one's good. I still think "oops all UTC" is worth it, in spite of it though. Maybe we could/should detach the concept of today tomorrow monday tuesday etc from hours and leave them attached to solar time instead, let the calendar change from may 31st to june 1st in the middle of the day but it's still friday until the sun rises the next morning. I don't know, maybe that's even more complicated... either way i don't think it'd be catastrophic, just a little bit ridiculous ahahaheh. ^^"
@kitchentroll5868
@kitchentroll5868 7 ай бұрын
I had forgotten about these mechanical wonders. Seeing this video brought back my childhood wonderment seeing one of these in my uncle's office (he was an engineer involved in the building of the Pan-American Highway).
@rays7805
@rays7805 6 ай бұрын
I really disagree with your time zones idea. If I'm traveling someplace, how long will it take, and when will I arrive? Do I have enough time, or will I be late? Time zones solve this problem elegantly. In most parts of the world, even if I travel across multiple time zones, all I'll ever have to do is add or subtract a few hours. I'll never have to worry about minutes. If we get rid of time zones, all the problems with minutes will come right back. It's a terrible idea.
@DaleKiwi
@DaleKiwi 5 ай бұрын
You have managed to reach one of the 50 people who live in the 'Australia Central Western' time zone on the Eyre Highway. Great video and thanks for mentioning us! What makes it even more complex is that the local government departments in Eucla work on Standard Western Australian time (to work in with Perth), locals work on Central Western Time and Border Village, 12 kilometres down the road, works on South Australian Time. As such, working out what time you are meeting anyone for lunch can be very confusing! And as for your iPhone trying to figure out what time it is (with it bouncing between different cell towers each reading a different time) it can be a bit of a giggle! It all makes life very interesting. Once again, thanks for the great video, the clock looks amazing! Take care!
@belphygor
@belphygor 7 ай бұрын
I wasn't expecting this video to contain a "get rid of timezones" section. I've had all my clocks set to UTC for a few years now and it's very convenient for coordinating with people online. I always encourage everyone to stop using timezones, I think it will become inevitable in the future as people start communicating over larger distances more often.
@EmonEconomist
@EmonEconomist 7 ай бұрын
I hope so! (Admittedly I haven't gone as far as you yet in switching to UTC.) I hope when/if we eventually start going to Mars we won't have 24-plus-change hourly timezones (yuck) but instead have a single timezone (presumably the time at Airy Crater) for the whole planet. It'll be a lot easier to convert between Earth and Mars time that way! So your approach is both sensible in the modern world, it's also future-proofing for possible future space exploration. Win-win.
@algorithminc.8850
@algorithminc.8850 7 ай бұрын
That was great work. Thanks. It's almost always fun to take the time to fix something like that - to learn first-hand. I look forward to checking out your other videos. Cheers
@the_untitled__
@the_untitled__ 7 ай бұрын
There's a geochron at my local library! I was always fascinated with it as a kid, it's cool to see how it works!
@dennishall6098
@dennishall6098 2 ай бұрын
I own both the Mechanical and digital model of Geochron, I saw a youtube time lapse of the shadow of light changing, And I was like I have to have that! So I got my Credit card a couple of thousand dollars in the black and I made this happen about ten years ago! I must say I admire you tenacity, resolve & courage to open the clock up and explore the internal components in it the way you did! I hope you get many years of enjoyment out of it as I have! And living in Australia I was also aware of that obscure unrecognised +45 timezone near the town of Eucla. Stay safe!
@dmacarthur5356
@dmacarthur5356 7 ай бұрын
I kinda like the idea of keeping the original map. Its a snapshot of how the world was when the clock was made and I think thats kinda cool.
@Attoparsec
@Attoparsec 7 ай бұрын
I was torn! I still have the old one, though, and I want to do something with it.
@dmacarthur5356
@dmacarthur5356 7 ай бұрын
@@Attoparsec No judgement on you. It's yours to do with as you like and if thats what makes you happy then go for it. I'm a Gen X kid and just the USSR on the map is very nostalgic to me. Great vid btw, very informative
@EmonEconomist
@EmonEconomist 7 ай бұрын
I kinda like the idea of doing this with one of those really old maps that doesn't even have the full outline of Australia on it. Kind of a mix of modern, nostalgic, and really old in the one clock.
@vessbakalov8958
@vessbakalov8958 7 ай бұрын
Scheduling meetings is already hard. Imagine trying to fit a 15 min call into half a dozen calendars without using our (arbitrary) sync mechanism
@CannedMan
@CannedMan 7 ай бұрын
Just discovered your channel. At first, from the thumb, I thought it was a new Map Men video, then realised it was something different. Thanks for a very interesting video. Now I want one too!
@VixyFish
@VixyFish 6 ай бұрын
High praise! :)
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