The Greatest edition of Jazz at the Pawnshop? Mind-blowing Tapes, Vinyl & CDs by AudioNautes

Explore with us in depth the "Jazz at the Pawnshop" reel-to-reel session tapes edition along with other releases and technical/production aspects of the Italian audiophile label AudioNautes Recordings. The video contains also an interview with the head of the label, Fabio Camorani.
AudioNautes Recordings website: www.audionautesrecordings.com/
High-Res (24 bit/192Khz) partial rip of "Limehouse Blues": u.pcloud.link/publink/show?co...
INDEX:
0:00 Intro
4:10 Edition details
13:21 Other releases
17:04 Fabio Camorani interview
51:07 R2R listening
54:25 Ending
A few words and correction by Fabio Camorani on the tapes:
When we got the tapes we investigated a bit. The tapes have splices like session tapes. And Naxos confirmed they are the only ones, no one else have ever seen anything different. We then asked Plamcrantz (directly), confirming he never saw anything else, no memory of this. But he also cheked personally the 4 tapes and said that the 4 tapes are a safety copy of the session tapes done in 1986, without any editing, as is. The session tapes are lost and were done in Dolby A. We then got also JATP 2 and the remaining small 7" reels and they all are A. So these are the ONLY "masters" available and they are a 1:1 safety copy of the session tapes, done just reading A and recording SR. Palmcrantz confirmed and any other info is lost with Boethius. The tapes too, probably (this is not the only case...).
...and on his team:
There is a point that I want to highlight here, because it is not very clear in the video. AudioNautes Recordings (and any other brand) is made of people. ANR is a TEAM, it's not me. The Team is mentioned in all booklets and also somewhere else.
Fabio Fornari, owner of a vineyard in Italy and owner also of a great pair of ears, helping the team hear deep detail in recordings, with his monitor type system.
Pietro Benini, owner of one of the leading studios in Italy and the person responsible for the tape transfers. He owns several high-quality Otari MTR-15 reel-to-reel tape decks; his collections also includes a Studer 820, 812 and 807 among a host of other machines.
Roberto Mengozzi, whose company does high level electronic assembly (included among his projects have also been communication systems for Formula 1 racing cars). His company also assembled our electronics. Roberto is working on this project simply for the fun of it. And he is also the owner of one of those relatively rare and highly desirable Otari MTR-15 reel-to-reel tape decks.
Stefanno Ercolani, working on all artworks.
And must also mention Scott and Miles, who cut all vinyls for us, following our guidelines for "the last mile" (or the last 5%...).
I hope this clarifies who is working in ANR.
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[@LuisBorba]

Although I don't own a reel-to-reel player and probably never will, I love watching these videos. It's the closest I'll ever come to the experience and your passion clearly shows in your videos.

[@analoguecity3454]

I never thought a "hard rock" guy like me could get into "swing jazz"! It is a huge contrast! 🎶 The ambience and shadings are so different!

[@anadialog]

👍👍👍

[@dougg1075]

I didn’t love jazz until my system was good enough to appreciate it. And there are tons of great jazz in the record store. It’s a great addition to any addictive personalities. Love it

[@mowman7777]

My experience exactly.

[@shikpolam8968]

Jass at the pawnshop, yes, it has been more than thirty years already! This will bring back lots of memory for me. I still do have the CD/ LP copy somewhere in my collection, maybe I will find it soon.

[@ChainsawDNA]

Well done, Guido. Well done!

[@brendanmarchal]

I never experienced a better KZbin exported sound ! Amazing ! We can guess how extraordinary is this source Thank you

[@anadialog]

Thank YOU!

[@volkhardruhs7662]

Absolutly mindblowing. I really know those sessions so very well by ear and only listening on my Laptop with B&W headphones (so really not that great) I immidiatly was blown away. Imagining the sound with my “normal” gear. So, the big child in me screamed (MUST HAVE). Only flaw? I don’t own a taperecorder. 😊 Thank You for bringing this and AudioNautes to attention.

[@anadialog]

Thank YOU!

[@paolorams767]

Thank you Guido, to you and Fabio: fantastic! ❤️

[@budgetaudiophilelife-long5461]

THANKS GUIDO,🤗 I have been accused of being an audiophile,I DEFINITELY LOVE ❤️ JAZZ, AND I have only recently heard JAZZ AT THE PAWNSHOP and throughly enjoyed it 🤗💚💚💚

[@user-uc8xvgf5xm]

Just beautiful! No words to express more deeply...

[@myvintagevinyl63]

Thank You, Sooo Much. This was a wonderful presentation of a real audio treasure.

[@Lasse3]

As soon as the tape started playing, even from my TV speakers on KZbin, - you instantly recognize that this is special 😯 That Studer looks gorgeous, watching you insert the tape and all the mechanics working is just a sight to behold! this is true audiophilia! I have the DSD 11.2 mhz jazz at pawnshop, but I stopped listening to digital a few years ago.. Went all-in on expensive turntable, pick-up and RIAA - best decision of my life. Reel-to-reel is where the rabbit hole ends I guess😅

[@anadialog]

Coooool! God job! I keep getting the completely opposite procedure. Glad to see someone still analog hardcore.

[@Lasse3]

@@anadialog i had just visited the legend Troels Gravesen, an affiliate of Scanspeak - he's the man who builds the speakers and crossovers and represents Scanspeak at the Hifi convention in Munich. - At this convention Troels speaker-designs (housing scanspeak drivers) are demoed in the Scanspeak showroom. I was purchasing a pair of Scanspeak speakers personally build by Troels, and he gave me a demonstration in his living room (he is a vinyl only guy) What I heard in his living room from his Ortofon Anna diamond pickup, his two monster E.A.R tube-amps running bridged, EAR RIAA, EAR Preamp. And an 80 kg turntable! Everything modded with the most exotic capacitors obtainable - and ALL internal wiring, re-point to point wired using audiophile grade cabling by the man himself. I heard something in that living room that I will take with me to my grave, completely unforgettable. Long story short, I bought the speakers, and soon after I went analogue and tube amps myself. Digital is a joke, an imposter! Why listen to a digital simulation, when you can have an actual acoustic event (the stylus in the groove) an simply amplify it directly? The simple fact that vinyl is a true acoustic event being amplified, makes it plain to understand why it sounds so much more real and authentic. This was never about THD, wow and flutter, and all the nonsensical mathematical jargon. Is it a real acoustic phenomena or not? And only vinyl can claim that feat! - You can literally hear the music from the stylus itself completely acoustically, even if you have no amp or speakers! That's as real as me strumming a guitar in my living room.

[@orisher11]

Thank you for doing this KZbin ❤

[@acobocina2509]

Fabio is divine....great man and professional.

[@lucabattanta9246]

Eccezionale ! Credo di non potermi permettere i nastri ma mi hai fatto venire voglia di provare i vinili ed i particolari cd di questa fantastica etichetta discografica ! Complimenti Guido!

[@jerryandlisa27]

Wow that is how a product should be presented .

[@isikyazan3041]

Wonderful👏

[@bluebuddha74]

I have a lot of jazz recordings, mostly on CD. I’ve read books on jazz but somehow I missed ever hearing about this recording. I just listened to an XR CD of it on KZbin and was blown away. I don’t care if I’ve never heard of the musicians. Yes, the recording is fantastic even through KZbin but more than anything else the musicianship is top-notch and that is the magical quality that comes through on this recording. Thank you Guido for bringing this to my attention.

[@shikpolam8968]

You are too young for this I suppose, I am 60 and have a copy in my collection.

[@Raypirri]

Hey Guido! Another fabulous presentation. To have a Guru like Fabio explain his workings is pure gold! The problem is after watching this is, my XRCD24 version will never sound a s good again! Please keep these coming-Caio from Australia.

[@anadialog]

Thanks Bruce! The XRCD is one of my all time favorite CDs, keep it tight!

[@Raypirri]

@@anadialog The XRCD was pursued because of your recommendation! Love your work mate!

[@MARKEFLEON]

woooooooow!! amazing gracias!!!!

[@a_teonnai-ki8049]

Thank you very much for the video! Thanks to it I’ve learned about both AudioNautes and their approach to production. Which in its’ turn led to me buying their CD edition of the Jazz at the Pawnshop. That point about original reels being copied to HDD and then HDD being sent to Japan to prevent quality loss - sealed the deal for me.

[@themeantuber]

Awesome 😎👍

[@joyspring5643]

Wow, supervideo!! Like!

[@fabricehaesendonck196]

thanks alot for this share i am very grateful for this kind of peoples who love the good work better than money,thanks again Guido for sharing this very good info,take care buddy!

[@deadquietvinyl]

Is interesting he mentioned Gheorghe Zamfir. Fabio rules! 👌👍👏

[@mounirehab]

Very interesting 👌

[@davidfarrell7318]

i would loved to have heard more of that tape really beautiful.

[@anadialog]

In the video description I added 5 minutes of Limehouse blues in 24bit/192khz!

[@uffe9270]

I'm a Swede and find this most interesting. I have the SACD version, already.

[@yanivshef992]

Dear Guido , this stream wasn’t long at all. It was very informative but mostly interesting. I only recently acquired the vinyl version and it’s beautiful. I was also able to understand the quality of the reels listening on my iPad through AirPods Pro 😊

[@anadialog]

Great, I am glad!👍

[@johnmarchington3146]

What a great interview, Guido. I thought Fabio was superb. I have a small number of UHQCDs that I bought from Japan and from the moment I played the first disc (Genesis "Foxtrot") I was smitten. The clarity, spaciousness and depth were outstanding, Peter Gabriel was singing in the room with you and the sound of the drums was extraordinarily realistic. I can't think of one UHQCD that I'm disappointed with, whether they be rock, jazz or classical - and I have a small number of each type. What does surprise me, however, is that there don't appear to be any UHQSACDs. I would love to hear them, if they exist. I'll visit Fabio's website and check out what he has to offer.

[@anadialog]

Thanks for sharing that!

[@marks.2909]

I have the Fim 32 bit set of Jazz at the pawn shop among a large collection of Jazz titles it’s certainly not my favourite however its sits in the top 10% of exceptional live recordings. I purchased this new cd release just for the heck of it , comparing them there are some obscured details on the FIM release that are much more evident on the AudioNautes release including being able to hear deeper into the venue itself . Job well done AudioNautes you surpassed the FIM issue on transparency and sound quality.

[@rtacconi]

As an IT engineer I have to say that sending an HD to Japan instead of the files is silly. Files can be transferred and then you can apply an MD5 to check the integrity and if a single bit has changed, you will see that.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

I already answered below, as an electronic engineer 🙂 - enjoy!

[@Bosworth123]

@@fabiocamorani8359 No you didn't. Your only response was that YOU heard a difference..... which is impossible. You know its impossible.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

@@Bosworth123 You listen what you want to listen. Hard to have no bias. However, what the models say may differ from what we see. If I hear differences, I listen again and again, in blind and with many other people. If the statistic says that there is some differences, I do not believe I'm wrong, I do believe the model is incomplete. In any case, I do not want to convince anyone. I never tried. You can just evaluate the result. I go on my way, because I take less risk and I have a better control on results: this is what I explained and this is my way. Enjoy.

[@sidesup8286]

There was a company doing a similar thing in America called The Tape Project. They would make reel to reel copies of Master Tapes of famous artists. Their titles ranged from The Sidewinder by Lee Morgan to Linda Ronstadt. I think it was preferable to join the club, and at certain intervals they released more titles made available. I think there was a costly membership fee, and if you were a member you could get the tapes for I think about $400. The company stopped doing this a long while back, but the last I heard they were making the only reel to reel deck still being made; the United Home Audio tape deck which cost many tens of thousands of dollars. When your sax sound on your stereo, sounds as squeaky clean as the guy playing on the street corner, you know you got something there.

[@anadialog]

Was? There is! I love the Tape Poject. They were the first to do this! I have the Saxophone Colossus edition by them.

[@sidesup8286]

@@anadialog I'm glad you clarified. After my post I visited their website. The Tape Project appears to be shipping again. But I was on their website yesterday and it was difficult to find titles I would have wanted that were not sold out. It was highly interesting what tape decks were recommended by them to be good enough to realize the quality of their tapes. Equally interesting was what tape decks they did not recommend.

[@thomashertl3037]

Thank you so much for this insightful video talk. I am a big fan of AudioNautes since years, except for the classic music releases which are not my favorite genre. I only wish that JatPS would be released on vinyl by AN if it can meet Fabio‘s high quality standards.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

Thank you so much!! Scott already cut all lacquers for both Cantate Domino and JATP. Both titles are 3 LP box sets. The current plan is to offer them in June-July, both titles. However, instead of 12 mothers we made, so far, almost 30. Lots of troubles. This is why we are 1 year in delay (again: you can imagine what it means in terms of costs). But we see the light at the end of the tunnel (and it's not the train...).

[@thomashertl3037]

Fantastic news! Thank you, Fabio. Surely worth the wait. Looking forward to!

[@antunkatona5674]

Hi! I must say, though I find myself in constant disagreement with what you say on your channel, I have to give credit to you and your honest enthusiasm about the gear and music. Your passion is infectious! I find most of what you say untrue, at least when gear is concerned, but for some reason, I still enjoy the videos you make and I’ve actually learned about some precious recordings. It led to further research on my end and now I even posess some of them myself. So, thanks for that! Cheers and all the best in the New Year!

[@anadialog]

Well, I'll take that as a compliment but please comment also the other videos if uou disagree. It's good for both of us!

[@antunkatona5674]

@@anadialog It's a compliment. If I didn't care, I wouldn't bother ;) Cheers!

[@joeyjustin6895]

DAMNNNNNNNNN THAT SOUNDED GOOD ON MY PHONEEEEEEEE DAMNNNNNNN

[@anadialog]

🤣

[@roball1980]

OMG ❤

[@Abrasca74]

Ho la versione con 3 Sacd e un dvd con intervista, gran disco!!

[@nickbitten9910]

Wow- I would SO love to have this J A T P S but don't have a tape deck capable of doing it justice.

[@goldenears100]

Hey all, Saw video on favorite CDs etc. Have Pawnshop on special Vinyl and CD also! Love it! Was interested in Ponta Box Modern Juzz! Can't find it anywhere yet! Anybody know where I might get it? Thank you

[@kforkrish]

5:36 the certificate says "oct 6" it was my birthday 🎂 😄

[@davidtull2388]

Can anyone explain why this is soo unique? Given how many songs are recorded everyday surely recording engineers have got it sorted out by now. Why aren’t there 100’s of comparable recordings? I actually listen to this to go to sleep, its fantastic

[@fabiocamorani8359]

Hard to say what did this recording so unique. Palmcrantz himself was very surprised by the success. He found some magic balance, by talent and luck (he did not have time to test anything - one of the still unpublished 7" reels has inside some trials while the group was playing...). But also the 4+1 players had some super evenings, full of fun and pathos. Some aspects went perfect all together...

[@cezarvasile1635]

👌

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

I tried to order thr CD JATPS to compare to my orginal cd but noway to order i tried for over 20mins 😥 Thanks for the video , loving my new Audiolab Flagship Cdt9000 ! Video posted 😃

[@anadialog]

Sorry about that. I am sure Fabio is checking out the problem.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

what's your problem? Site? Or what? I have seen some issues with the traffic in the last 2 weeks.

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

@@fabiocamorani8359 The Site won't let me order Jazz at the Pawn Shop Theirs no checkout - I do live in America , I am a utuber as well and I do include the music (CD) I listen to when listening to different gear I video review , Is this because I live in America ? I can send you my email ?

[@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120]

@@anadialog Thanks I tried to order CD after I watched your Video - 😥

[@fabiocamorani8359]

@@tee-jaythestereo-bargainph2120 Please send me an email. The shipping cost is set to 999 to stop the buyers outside EU. But if you send an email, we solve the issue.

[@larrytoy4235]

I got the JATP and Cantate Domino tapes. Super sound. Definitely not cheap, even for tape. I understand that the license was much more expensive than typical. BTW, Tape Project still exists. They still are selling tapes, but haven't released a new tape in several years. United Home Audio is a separate company that makes their own tape recorders. When I started as a charter subscriber to Tape Project close to 15 years ago, the first ten albums 2 reels each were around $1200. Today they cost about $450 per 2 reel album, same price as most of Acoustic Sounds 2 reel releases.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

Hi Larry, thanks for appreciating so much these titles. Guido doscovered my costs and in the end now there are 2 categories: one around $500 and one around twice this price. These prices are not random. I am the first to think about lower prices, but it was not and it is not possible.

[@larrytoy4235]

@@fabiocamorani8359 Thanks, Fabio. I've gotten to know several of the people producing commercial tapes. Most of them do their own productions and don't have the royalty issues as well as dealing with decades old master tapes. Your issues have been a real sonic treat, and I have the audiofile vinyl editions to compare. I already have placed an order for your issue of La Spagna, one of my favorite albums.

[@BruceTheSillyGoose]

can you please tell me what tape deck you use to play these back on?

[@fabiocamorani8359]

@@BruceTheSillyGoose In my case it is PR99 mk3 (still in use but for sale) and Otari MTR15.

[@larrytoy4235]

I have a pair of Ampex ATR-102's, one for quarter inch and one for half inch tapes. I have a Merrill Master Trident tape preamp for playback, bypassing the Ampex playback electronics.

[@samt77aus]

Thanks for your very interesting and informative videos. I was just wondering in regards to the photograph of the Jazz at the Pawn Shop session tapes I noticed that they are labeled Dolby SR. From what information I’ve read online it is commonly stated that Dolby SR was introduced in 1986 for professional recordings, are the tapes photographed masters made from the original session tapes?

[@anadialog]

Good point. We know that the original session tapes were small 7" reels recorded with a Dolby A 361 system. Maybe instead of combining them they copied them on 10" reels with Dolby SR in a second moment? I will ask Fabio and hopefully we will have a reply from Naxos.

[@anadialog]

I have discussed with Fabio who at the time also spoke to Naxos. Yes, these are the original session tapes put together in 4 10" reels (1 per side of the double vinyl edition). They are filled with splicing. In some forums you may see other small Agfa 7" reels, that Fabio also has, and those belong to the so-called Late Night Jazz at the Pawnshop. There isn't a simple explanation to the presence of a Dolby SR writing and sticker. The only explanation, they told me, is that Dolby A and SR can both be used in specific cases, they are interchangeable for playback. So at a certain point they must have gotten a DOLBY SR system at Proprius and hence they marked the boxes with that name in order to play the back with that technology. Obviously we cannot be 100% certain since not even at Naxos (who now has all Proprius tapes) they know the whole story. In any case, one thig is certain, all high quality editions (FIM, 2xHD, etc etc.) are all using THOSE 4 master/session tapes. There isn't anything else.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

When we got the tapes we investigated a bit. The tapes have slices like session tapes. And Naxos confirmed they are the only ones, no one else have ever seen anything different. We then asked Plamcrantz (directly), confirming he never saw anything else, no memory of this. But he also cheked personally the 4 tapes and said that the 4 tapes are a safety copy of the session tapes done in 1986, without any editing, as is. The session tapes are lost and were done in Dolby A. We then got also JATP 2 and the remaining small 7" reels and they all are A. So these are the ONLY "masters" available and they are a 1:1 safety copy of the session tapes, done just reading A and recording SR. Palmcrantz confirmed and any other info is lost with Boethius. The tapes too, probably (this is not the only case...).

[@jn3750]

Your Studer sounds fu$$$$$ good. Do you know that the OTARI MTR -15 (sharing many of the parts with my MX-55N) can calibrate the tapes automatically? It is a rare item indeed and and sounds as good as ANY professional machines regardless of price (I had a chance to play with her for several hours). Even a beat up one commands thousands of dollars today and is nearly impossible to find.

[@anadialog]

Yup, all those later machines are aoutocalibrating. A feature that always tempted me but in the end I choose earlier Telefunken and Studer models for premium audio quality, also the all-rmtube Studer C37....maybe one day...

[@starlightghometheater2365]

Gerard Stroh*** Anadialog!!! Some of those Master Tapes Must Sound Good!!! I Use the 911 Recording the Masters tape and I only use 15 ips tape speed only***** Just Think if they use 1/2 Master or 1 inch Master Tape!!! I Have A Rare Ampex AG440 1/2 inch 4 track Master Reel to Reel Master Recorder made in 1967 and it Blows My Vinyl Records out of the Water!!! I only use Master Reel to Reel Tape Machines and I Have 2 Teacs A3440 4 Track Reel to Reel tape Deck and I have an OTARI MX 5050 2 Reel to Reel Deck and Also A Classic TEAC 80-8 Tascam Series 8 track Reel to Reel Tape Deck!!! I Like Your Video!!!!

[@anadialog]

Wow! Congrats!

[@BruceTheSillyGoose]

aside from some tape hiss, this is sterling sound, A1 all the way from stem to stern. if i had that much moolah and the king's own playback equipment, i'd get these tapes as they are precious, i hope the master tape is locked away safe in an underground vault somewhere, it needs to survive for the ages of man and whoever comes up after man along with the machinery to play it on. i would LOVE to hear the cantate domino version of these tapes. i have the original proprius CD of that and would like to hear a truer take on the original revox A77 deck which recorded it.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

Proprius is very focused in perfect safe way to stock their precious masters. BIS too. I can't say the same for other labels... I found terrible conditions in the past. I always do a safety copy, the labels ask me to do it before anything else (another cost to add...). But it is also very important the type of tape. Some tapes are very very reliable, others are not, and they have drops. Not because of bad storage. I started a project from a tape done 1961. It was impossible to work on it. Its 1981 copy was by far BETTER. Some loss in some aspects, but great from all other point of view: we decided to work on this tape. In 2023 you'll see the title published.

[@pierregrave5971]

is there a way to send you Guido an emailk which is not directly linked to one of your videod ? I would like to suggest ine theme for a new one. Thanks for answer. Puerre

[@anadialog]

Sure, right here: [e-mail]

[@claudioportugalli4352]

The perfect editon is DSD 128! of three album

[@charlesnr]

It should be mentioned that in the US, many machines used NAB equalization instead of CCIR which were shown on the new tapes box label. Some machines such as some Revox had both choices. The playback machine must have matching EQ, or the care he takes on the tapes would not show with played with the wrong EQ.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

NAB eq can be asked, as special production.

[@Vladislaw81]

There are many hi-fi recordings that sounds just as good as this one. By the way, I've listened to the samples at the end of this video and noticed a problem with stereo base. That is, a possible phase problem. It's either wrongly placed overheads or it's the phases of in-place mics are conflicting with the phase of overheads, or both. Anyway, the stereo image is somewhat corrupted and is sticked to the speakers. My system is Telefunken 7550 and Telefunken V-101, a good one I think.

[@anadialog]

No mics involved. What you are hearing id what is on the tape. I connected the outputs of the studer to the computer interface.

[@Vladislaw81]

@@anadialog I understand, I’m talking about the mics used for 1976 recording.

[@hacmustafaus173]

Lucky guy....

[@patrickmedard4254]

Did you compare the Audionautes reel to reel version with the 2XHD reel to reel version ?

[@anadialog]

I haven't!

[@fabiocamorani8359]

some did

[@danieldrz251]

I found the bass a bit over the top in this downloadable sample

[@mikeos1]

I reckon it should all go on one CD!

[@fabiocamorani8359]

UHQCD has 74mins max. Even cutting all chatter etc...

[@johnmarchington3146]

@@fabiocamorani8359 Thanks for that information, Fabio. I wasn't aware of that time limit. As I've mentioned elsewhere I have a small quantity of UHQCDs and loved them from the moment I first heard them. May I ask you a question? What is your opinion of MQA? I ask because the majority of the UHQCDs I have bought from Japan are MQA-encoded and that seems to be the norm with them now.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

@@johnmarchington3146 UHQCD limit is lower than standard CDs, not for the process but for having the same quality. The same for the lack of the serigraphy for best quality. But Universal Japan did not follow the guideline. Regarding MQA, I never tried. However, the signal is processed in any case, and files must be sent via internet for this processing, as far as I got when I asked. This is downgrading the quality by itself. However, I planned to give a try and test it sooner or later.

[@johnmarchington3146]

@@fabiocamorani8359 Thanks for your comments, Fabio. Much appreciated.

[@MrJasonMeans]

Love your channel and great review. I giggle a little at the hard drive shipping > ftp. I mean it’s all 1s and 0s in digital and physical damage to a hard drive in shipping could be worse than transferring via a solution like Dropbox

[@anadialog]

Try searching the web. You'll see others suspect this issue. They said it was 1s and 0s also for CDs...the people discovered interpolation, jitter, and aliasing.

[@ivanmaltoni8760]

Complimenti Guido. Video sempre molto interessanti. Devi diventare più prolifico...

[@guillaumelabesse8161]

Hi, I have the 2016 reissue version from Prophone/Proprius (PROP 7778-79) that I had paid 50€. The sound is fantastic as well as the music itself although I prefer "Masterpieces by Ellington" from ANALOGUE PRODUCTIONS (APJ 4418-45) and "WE GET REQUESTS - OSCAR PETERSON" also from ANALOGUE PRODUCTIONS (AP-8606). Unfortunately I don't have a reel to reel master tape recorder such as the Studer A820, so, I am forced to buy the vinyl from 2xHD (acousticsounds shop). The sound will probably be better than the version I have now. What do you think about it? Will we hear the difference? They deliver to France but the shipping costs $58.05 !!! No other solutions to buy it from Europe ?

[@anadialog]

A good vinyl edition will always be more rewarding. If you love the recording, go ahead!

[@fabiocamorani8359]

There are MANY LP versions done, in 45 years. Only a few, in my opnion, sound good enough. I have several editions and some are really far from the good. Now that we listened to the original master tapes, the evaluation is tougher. The very first impression was: wow, what a speed and dynamic! This is our next step, evaluating the LPs. ANR is going to offer the Lp version too. Summer 2023.

[@gotham61]

The link to the Audio Nautes site is broken

[@fabiocamorani8359]

It works fine, can you re-try?

[@gotham61]

@@fabiocamorani8359 I still get "Content Encoding Error The page you are trying to view cannot be shown because it uses an invalid or unsupported form of compression. Please contact the website owners to inform them of this problem."

[@REX4340]

👍👍Will you be comparing the CD to the tape?

[@anadialog]

I have my FIM CD, not the AudioNautes. Perhaps in the future!

[@REX4340]

@@anadialog Thanks! Btw what did you use to record?

[@dannybourne_]

*DSD is the king format*

[@anadialog]

Depends how and what. Check out my video on DSD: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6aYemCwbMtpn9Usi=WxSZvbz8-9X7tLmk

[@Raymondey]

Will there be vinyl issue from these tapes?

[@anadialog]

I don't think so. Maybe Fabio can add something...

[@fabiocamorani8359]

As written elsewhere, YES. JATP will be 2x 33rpm + 1x45rpm (with 2 tracks per side). And Cantate Domino will have 1x 33rpm + 2x45rpm (full program in 45rpm!). So both will be 3LP box sets. Limited: 1000 copies each title.

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

As long as it sounds great I don't care about 'lazer engraving' . I hope that didn't make it out of reach expensive. Very cool video though you did a great job.

[@romankoschar9041]

The capabilities of a HiFi setup and musical taste are two very different things. Way to often I feel like people are building their taste around their setup and not the other way around. Jazz At The Pawnshop is a case in point for me: While it undoubtedly is a divine sounding recording I have to say it's not at all my kind of music. I'm bold enough to say it. However I saw that there are some great classical recordings on offer. Maybe I'll grab one of those. I hope and dream that maybe some early rock & blues live recordings may get the AudioNautes treatment one day.

[@anadialog]

I can only say that i loved this kind of music. I adore swing and dixiland music.

[@morettoyoutube8450]

Three copies for me please…😂

[@deadquietvinyl]

The prices these tapes are listed for are different than what you said here.

[@anadialog]

I checked. You're right. I think the price was without VAT or maby it just changed. Remember to go to the last one. The first ones are the first serial numbers and cost much more. I guess it's cheaper in the US!

[@chumleyk]

They've added $500 to the asking price now.

[@PimpinBassie2]

Digital 1 DSD step True Analog?

[@anadialog]

What is the question?

[@PimpinBassie2]

@@anadialog Referring to the MoFi scandal

[@Watcher4111]

In my Country Audio nautes Jazz at paw shop cost 120 USD. A bit high price for cd

[@fabiocamorani8359]

Wow, indeed. You can buy elsewhere. Suggested prices is almost half. It's a double UHQCD, not Gold... 😁

[@Andersljungberg]

You said that streaming sucks. Could it possibly have something to do with Flac or Alac? I remember a guy saying he thought Alac sounded worse than AIFF. But that Alac sounded better if he first unzipped it before playing it than if it was unzipped while playing the file. He thought that it was probably the Unpacking during listening that worsened the sound quality. maybe it's the same with Flac. Then you can make a difference between streaming or downloading from a service where you can buy music downloads. And which offers uncompressed file formats such as wav and AIFF. Then there are those that also have DSD files as downloads. But I think you should probably not use Wi-Fi but a regular decent network cable. Then it is reportedly the case that Tidal and Qobuz have significantly higher stream speeds than Amazon music. NOTE: it was about the unpacked Alac file sounding better than an unpacked Alac file. So I didn't mean that Alac would sound better than an AIFF file

[@anadialog]

I tried several times. I use high-res streaming for recording on cassettes and commuting to work. At home in my system It’s just unbearable. It’s compressed, unnatural. Plus it is renowned that the streaming protocol is lossy since various errors occur, degrading sound.

[@Andersljungberg]

@@anadialog On The Netflix ISP Speed ​​Index. Can you see which broadband operators have the highest average streaming speed to Netflix anyway? Steam should also have broadband statistics, But then it's about download speed. And have you checked your broadband on a broadband test. You should have more than 15 mbit. If you have good ping time, that is probably also an advantage. Then there is probably a certain difference between downloading a file and streaming a file. a downloaded video file can look better than a streamed video file I think. today there are still several different websites where you can buy music downloads. what device did you use when you streamed music Was it a streamer a mobile phone or a computer or what . personally I don't have good experience with flac Files the sound is less open Many times I think I think you should download a file type that means the device doesn't need to unzip it while playing. and if you are going to use USB memory, read the user manual and see which USB version is recommended

[@Andersljungberg]

@@anadialog You don't have a microwave oven or anything else close to your network cable or router or similar? . a microwave caused an old CRT computer monitor to start flickering. Although there was a wall in between

[@openreeltoreel]

We are offer it in the U.K.

[@GodfreyMann]

Your website is awful…I spent ages looking and can’t find anything.

[@openreeltoreel]

@@GodfreyMann you are on KZbin

[@GodfreyMann]

@@openreeltoreel and your point is?

[@openreeltoreel]

@@GodfreyMann I guess to check our channel on KZbin?!!

[@GodfreyMann]

@@openreeltoreel no…KZbin is a video content provider, it’s not a web browser. To visit your website I used a web browser.

[@TFWandyzilla]

Sorry, but there is no degradation when sending files online. Yes, there can be noise when playing from a PC to a DAC that you might have to take care of, even jitter (in my case from the video card drivers ) but files from one PC to another are exactly the same, be it on a HDD that you fly to Japan, on Wetransfer or sent directly peer to peer. Think about programs and games: if a small part of a file is corrupted, the whole program collapses.

[@TFWandyzilla]

You can even check a video of a producer who uploaded HIS song to all the online platforms and compared them in the recording software by playing the 2 tracks in opposite polarities so they would cancel each other out completely is they were identical completely. Video name "What is the BEST SOUNDING STREAMING SERVICE?" by White Sea Studio

[@fabiocamorani8359]

As written many times, we found differences. Simply. We tried many times and many times we found sound differences. No corrupted file, just different sound in some aspects. This a fact in spite on theory. Try yourself. Nothing else.

[@TFWandyzilla]

@@fabiocamorani8359 It might be the "restaurant effect", that's what i call it. Meals there taste better because of the whole experience of going out, getting served etc. Could be the same with touching the vinyl, preparing the player, lowering the needle on it. It's a nice experience, don't get me wrong.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

@@TFWandyzilla You are right, sometimes this can be the effect and this is important as well. You must be in the right mood to get it all. However, I'm not telling that compared to the HDD sent the file has some issues. I'm telling that we sent several times the same track and the majority of them sounded ok, a few did not. And then it happened again time to time. I mean that I sent the tracks to friends, not to pressing plants. Using my FTP is MUCH better.

[@Gerta789]

Hi Guido, hi Fabio Thanks for interview, very informative. My two pennies: Why you don’t run external custom build tape stages to produce and listen so high quality recordings. I don’t have mrt 15 but my mx 55 and mtr 12 with original electrics sound like dead machines comparing with mx 5050 direct out to tube tape stage. If you don’t want to build your own try Doshi tape stage one of the best I’ve heard. Guido, who from your listeners run turntable with internal phono corrector? They will be laughing on you if you show them sound carts from otari or studer. The second penny is lack of full bass on the recording of jazz at pawnshop. When I listen the tape I was expecting deep real bass as usual on tapes. But there was not. I listen digital file and lp and noticed there is no bass. Or it was normal bass from cd or lp That I was not excited from tape.

[@anadialog]

I agree...I definitely will be upgrading the preamps of my machines. The problem is that many machines are very hard to modify and have a direct output from the heads...

[@Gerta789]

Try a tube tape stage@@anadialog

[@Gerta789]

Upgrading internal preamp is good but not the best solution. IMHO, 90 % of good sound comes from tape stage. External tube tape stage is the best way to listen R2Rs@@anadialog

[@fabiocamorani8359]

@@Gerta789 yes and no, it depends on the machine.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

This is the bass recorded on the master tapes. The sense of "full bass" is clear on the tapes, compared to the CD. However, to add bass makes everything very confusing.

[@johnwilliamson467]

When it is about 3.5 times the cost of other reel to reel offerings at 1600 USD value is not part of the mix . To be honest had and sold copy s of the record back in the 80 . Thought then and now it was a very good recording of ok musician in a club setting . The glass clink was a high light of the record . so it does appeal to audiophiles and not so much to music lovers .

[@gmt1377]

Hello It must be difficult to access the session tapes of a renowned record production, so it is debatable if the music is good or bad. The important thing is the technical aspects, that is not debatable if you have an understanding of what you are talking about and it is honest. Any DDP file for a CD contains a checksum. It is impossible that it can be corrupted by sending it by wetransfer for example. All irregularities inherent to reproduction, jitter, etc., are not applicable to the DDP. The reality is that no CDA is going to be the same as its DDP master in all ways of playback.

[@melaniezette886]

Fun, I never understood the success of this album 🤔

[@knockshinnoch1950]

After reading and hearing all the hype about just how great this album was in audiophile lore I just had to get my hands on the SACD. The sound recording really is terrific but the "jazz" mmm is just too much on the corny side for me. It begs the question am I listening to and appreciating the MUSIC or am I listening to the RECORDING? That is the pitfall many find themselves falling into- which is most important to each of us? It is of course all down to personal choice. I do know there are a number of artists and recordings I have a far greater opinion of and appreciation of as a result of hearing a superior audiophile sound recoding of a particular track or album- I haven't suddenly fallen in love with them but I have been "enlightened" Back to Jazz at the Pawnshop- YES IT IS a top class audiophile recording but is it the best? In my opinion no- I've heard at least 6 that blow it out of the water. This is a great video and a wonderful interview. So good to see someone who has such passion for the music and the quality of sound reproduction. The forensic care and highest standards of production AudioNautes apply to their releases is just mind blowing. I wish other labels paid half as much attention to quality.

[@anadialog]

I agree, there are hundreds of better recorded records but this one does have a spot on the Golden list. I love swing so I also enjoy the music but I see very few do.

[@UfukDirim]

Very nice, but I think I’ll stick to my SACD (2 discs) for which I’ve paid €65. At exactly 1% of the cost of these tapes they suddenly sound great value for money. They can’t be 99% worse in sound. 😁

[@anadialog]

Here is my digital advice. Ditch the SACD and grab the XRCD, that is my third preferred edition after the tape and the original Swedish LP!

[@UfukDirim]

@@anadialog I’ll look for a copy. 👍

[@johnmarchington3146]

@@UfukDirim I don't know what SACD version you own. I have a two-volume set ( two discs) distributed by First Impression Music (FLM SACD M 034) and then more recently I bought the 30th anniversary SACD set of four discs (three SACDs and a DVD) and there is no doubt in my mind that this new set is the better sounding of the two. In fact, I think it sounds glorious, whereas I wasn't so impressed with the earlier release. I also have a standard CD of the concerts which just contains the contents of the first SACD from the 30th anniversary set, track-for-track. It's also interesting to note that the track layouts differ considerably between the two SACD versions. What a brilliant player Arne Domnérus was, but they were all great. A classic album, to be sure!

[@afrancois1968]

OMG half the price of my tape deck!

[@UfukDirim]

@@johnmarchington3146 I have the FIM SACD M034 version and not impressed with it either. Tidal stream is as good if not better. I’ll look out for the other one you’ve mentioned. Thanks for the tip.

[@ccarney1126]

Hey Mr Tamborine man, why you coming in so Hot?

[@gotham61]

Ask yourself a simple question. Would you be listening to this music if it wasn't for the sound quality? This is old time swing style jazz played by a bunch of Swedish musicians, not exactly the kind of music most people listen to today. Do you own any other Arne Domnerus records? HiFi equipment should be a means to an end, not the end in itself.

[@anadialog]

I love swing music, I had a swing band play at my wedding! This recording embraces both aspects and has a special vibe that only luve recordings have.

[@analoguecity3454]

It's good to appreciate ALL genre's of music! Sound quality goes hand in hand (or it should be) with music! The better the quality, the closer to the artist and music (quite literally) you are! That's why poorly recorded music has to be "out-of-this-world" to connect to the listener! Fortunately, there's a lot like that out there!

[@GodfreyMann]

When humanity’s dead and gone, our musical legacy will be those pieces, the 0.01% of any given generation, that made it into modern day repertoire. The rest of it will be forgotten. The 0.01% will deserve to be remembered not because they were the best of their day, but because they reached in and touched the humanity in our souls in a timeless fashion (as all good music does regardless of genre). They are the pieces that inspire future generations to play with their own unique take on them. For example, “In My Life” by The Beatles - listen to the version by Veronica Mortensen…it’s wildly different and that’s the essence of what makes Jazz in the Pawnshop so good a different take on classic 1930s/40s records. It’s not just about the pieces the band are playing, but also their amazing performances, because the band members are so in-sync with each other - they’re not playing a score, they’re improvising by playing off each other….that’s the essence of live jazz even to this very day with contemporary jazz and when it’s done supremely well you feel it in your bones. So you might consider asking yourself: Why has some of the best music written by humanity to date not touch you? What is stopping you growing in your musical journey? What is limiting you to a narrow perspective of what constitutes good and relevant music worth listening to? My advice is don’t follow the herd, because 99.99% of music today is made for the herd and most of it will be forgotten in the decades/centuries to come. Start by dropping your biases. Start by being inquisitive. Seek the best and try and understand why history as put it on a pedestal; let it rub off on you.

[@GodfreyMann]

Regarding HiFi equipment, you’re absolutely wrong… If all you want to do is listen to music, then you can do that with a pocket radio or earbuds on your smartphone. What high quality audiophile equipment allows is the possibility of replaying the world’s greatest live acoustic performances in a way that transports you back to that venue in that time. Therefore, audiophile gear is a means to a very specific end goal, but it starts with high quality recordings that are distinctly lacking in most contemporary music. If you listen to the first 38 seconds (the intro) of Jazz at the Pawnshop vol.1, you’ll hear the ambience of the jazz club and on good equipment it’s like you’re in audience in 1976. Then the last 20% of Limehouse Blues you’ll hear the band improvising off each other and the reaction of the audience loving it…superb!

[@gotham61]

@@GodfreyMann Thanks for the highly patronizing and presumptive response. I am a huge fan of many genres of music, but to me, JATP is popular with audiophiles for one reason only, its recording quality. That's why I asked if you owned any other Arne Domnerus records. If this is such great music making, surely you would want to explore some of his other work. JATP is the ultimate example of Holt's Law, first coined by Stereophile founder J Gordon Holt. He said that there is an inverse relationship between the quality of a performance, and the quality of the recording. This is it, an amazing recording of a pedestrian performance at best. If you're a huge fan of Limehouse Blues as a composition, how about this recording, with Cannonball Adderley and John Coltrane both on fire trading amazing solos. I'm sorry to tell you, but Domnerus and Lars Erstrand, fine as they are, just don't function on this level. Surely, if it's "all about the music", this is a preferable version to listen to. Unfortunately, too many audiophiles are more interested in hearing how far behind their speakers the ca-ching of the cash register sounds, and the tinkling of the cocktail glasses, than in the actual music being played. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bpLUZniMnaqApKc

[@bvanbranden]

I'm a big fan of your KZbin video's, but this time you made a big mistake. Whether you take a HDD or you send the files through the internet does NOT make any difference. You link to that the fact that streaming is "worse", but that's another discussion. If you take the HDD files and you compare them to the same files send by the cloud, both files are simply identical.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

Sorry to say that I tried many times and I heard differences. Believe me that I would prefer to avoid to send an HDD to Japan several times a year. However, everytime I send files I risk some mod. Sometimes there are, and, as I wrote below answering another comment, I can't base a result on luck. As usual, give a serious try. And I stop here otherwise we should speak about different HDDs as well as different memory sticks... I hear differences. But if you do not, no worries at all.

[@anadialog]

Why call it a mistake? Maybe its your lack of knowledge. Always ask why something is so. Let's stop carrying on common misconceptions and old prejudice and understand the problem before jumping to conclusions. I am not saying I am always write but I do ask people to stop reiterating other's preconceived ideas. Digital comes along several errors which are immediately compensated, that makes you think that the file is identical, but it isn't it's like interpolation in CD reading. We must drop the idea of digital is perfection, just 1s and 0s. It isn't like that. Any engineer can tell you that. There is a wealth of filtering, noise shaping, dithering, antialiasing, interpolation, jitter and dozens of other things that occur. Internet is extremely polluted making clean trasfers more difficult. The problem is that digital selfs-correct and you cannot see where this is happening and the result is that the sound slightly changes. Subtle things of course, but those details make the recording faithful. It comes as no surprise that high end streaming systems have special modem/routers, all cabled, no wifi. This is in fact reason why almost any CD will sound better than streaming. This is part of the digital disease processing I was talking about here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX6piJ-sl7eMmqM

[@Bosworth123]

@@anadialog How do you live with yourself? You know you are lying. A file is a file is a file. Sending a file over email is not going to cause any difference in that file. Fabio is scammer and you are his accomplice. Using yourself as a source is ridiculous.

[@anadialog]

@@Bosworth123 I have no idea where all this hate is coming from. No scam and no accomplice since the subject of the video is tape, not CDs. In any case please moderate your terms. We can discuss this in a polite manner. On the issue, we just keep on believing to the toothfairy and digital dogma. I am done with preconceptions and measurements while my ears are telling otherwise. Digital data is constantly compressed across the web. There is electronic pollution and we assist to a virtual recomposition of that file, but it was processed and reconstructed. We are not talking of file transfer from a USB key and a hard drive. THIS is much different and the files get slightly modified. In a Word document you aren't going to see anything but with an entire 4k movie? It isn't going to be the same once it has passed the web, idem for quality audio. You would't believe what people do to limit this issue for a high quality streaming. I am actually surprised by this type of comments popping up, completely bigoted and biased.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

@@Bosworth123 I wanted to reply with a complete answer, but your last comment is really offensive and completely non sense. And this is also a public discussion, becoming a bit too much personal, direct, offensive - and this is definitively dangerous. I'm always open to learn. Our way in ANR is to take care of all possible aspects and risks. We follow the scientific thinking, trying and trying again. It's very expensive in terms of money and time. In the video, I shared SOME of the tips, something we learned because we tried. But the more we learn, the more we see that the most is out there to be learned and discovered. We have more questions and doubts than answers. You seem the kind of person full of statements and solid answers, instead. So please be kind and teach us how to improve our products, with solid tips, instead of being offensive and putting hate. I just explained what we do. I wait for some lessons from your side, based on your solid experience in this field you can proof. Not based on models and thought. This told, the HDD story is taking a few seconds in a long video speaking about tapes. And Guido already answered about what happens to files. But, one more time, please show us facts on this or please try yourself (that's much better). We did many times, still doing every week. I hope you can enjoy your favorite music and relax.

[@awesomemix2228]

$1500 in the US...how many "real" session/concert can you go with this money?

[@anadialog]

Of course, it's insane! I agree. Fabio told me that more than half that is licensing costs...

[@fabiocamorani8359]

The same for amps, preamps... My gain here is super low.

[@RhysGreen-kk2yf]

no question it's an amazing recording; but the fact still remains: the music itself is average AT BEST! The problem some audiophiles have sometimes is that they listen to music for the recording quality FIRST and the musical quality second.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

We may agree or disagree on the quality of the music. And not all musicians are Coltrane. But also sometimes audiophile has test discs. And if super well recorded and ok enough, why not? I always enjoy this disc, since 80s. The feeling I get from this disc of beyond its quality. My very personal opinion.

[@r423sdex]

I've come to the conclusion that people will believe absolutely anything.

[@tcngr]

time to throw my current "hi-fi" system to trash can??? Oh my God....!

[@juanjovazquezdelgado]

Very interesting but c'mon shipping the hard drive is absolutely overkilling. You can just compute an md5 checksum for the original file and do the same for the transferred copy and compare them. If they're both equal then both files are deterministically identical. I can buy the thing about jitter, clocks, compression, time domain, etc, but this asynchronous transfer is basic digital stuff. This is the kind of thing that objetivists use for calling us "audiofools".

[@fabiocamorani8359]

Well, I just tried. And the result is sometimes very different. That "sometimes" is making it out of control. I do not know why but this is what I found. I can't base the result on being lucky. So I invite you all to try. The UHQCD plant is also suggesting the HDD as best way and for best sound. They also tried. You know, it's not about theory but about practice. Maybe I can't see why, but trying I discovered this. So I do this way. Simply.

[@juanjovazquezdelgado]

@@fabiocamorani8359 Maybe you were not doing this md5 checksum in every transfer. I can assure you that if you apply this verification methodically, both at origin and at destination, you will be sure that you are working exactly with the same bytes, i.e. with an identical file. Please, don't get me wrong. I know that in audio not everything is what it seems and sometimes the best tool for the job is your own ears. But not in this particular case when it comes to file transfering and checksum based verification. On the other hand, I personally own some of your works, for example La Spagna , and they are amazing!. Congrats for your hard work!.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

@@juanjovazquezdelgado I'll give it a try. And thank you so much for appreciating La Spagna 🙂

[@anadialog]

I wish it was so simple. Digital comes along several errors which are immediately compensated, that makes uou think that the file is identical, but it isn't it's like interpolation. So you can still hear the track but something has changed. Subtle thinks of course, but those details make the recording faithful. It comes as no surprise that high end streaming systems have special modrm/routers, all cabled, no wifi. This is in fact reason why almost any CD will sound better than streaming.

[@juanjovazquezdelgado]

@@anadialog Guido, with all respect, that can be true during reproduction taking into consideration that it is a dynamic process. Yes, sure, errors can happen as it occurs on CD reading but we are not talking about reproduction here. We are talking about file transfering. Networks are not perfect and some packets can be lost but these lost packets can be retrieved using retries. You cannot do that during playback but you can when copying a file over a network. As I said, the md5 checksum of the file is absolutely deterministic and if this code is the same, both files are identical. Period. If this wasn't like that, encryption protocols wouldn't work and internet transactions would be completely unsecure. Please focus on what really matters, from recording to mastering, not in these minor things that make objetivists laugh about we audiophiles.

[@milojenikolovski7522]

1000 euro is sipmply to much for any album, on the end its just a music its not voice from God recorded on tapes.

[@fabiocamorani8359]

Definitively. There is also a Crystal Disc version made in HK at $1400.

[@joeyjustin6895]

WHEN YOU TALK YOUR SESES ARE LKKE RAZORS CUTTING MY EARS. CHECK YOUR AUDIO ON MULTIPLE PHONES. CAUSR THAT'S WHAT WE HEAR

[@joeyjustin6895]

I CAT EVEN WATCH YOUR SPEECH WAY TO MUCH 8K AND 10K. ITS AWFUL I HAD TO TURN IT OFF

[@anadialog]

I've discovered that the sound changes on each device. Try listening to it on something different and you will see that it will change.

[@dannybourne_]

Digital "contamination" ? 😂😂

[@anadialog]

Indeed! Words by Bernie Grundman. Here is a video I made dedicated to the subject: kzbin.info/www/bejne/qX6piJ-sl7eMmqMsi=fodQocKJOhgaZL4H

[@paulinboston]

I don't want to rain on your parade. This may be a nice recording, but it is not all that important a recording. I'm sorry, but instead of resurrecting old recordings by a bunch of dead guys, go out and record some new stuff!

[@anadialog]

Yes please do! I agree! BUT BUT take notes on how to do it and with what. 99% of modern recordings can only dream of what engineers were doing in the 50's and 60's, and some recordings in the 70's like this one.

[@paulinboston]

Jeff Beck and now David Crosby. I think the equipment is available and I think there are a lot of great musician who would love to be recorded in pure analog. I think a top notch producer with some great analog equipment could talk a lot of great acts into recording live fir short-run releases. Do you think someone like Neal Young might do a live greatest hits acoustic set, maybe. Stop looking for the dead and start recording the living.

[@GodfreyMann]

@@paulinboston if everyone had your attitude then there’d be no point in recording the living, because once they’re dead then no one will listen to the recordings…kind of a waste of time recording them in the first place, no? Agreed Jazz in the Pawnshop isn’t an important recording like “Kind of Blue”, but most people don’t listen to a recording just because it’s important. It’s not like any of the live concerts being played everyday are important, but people still pay top dollar to go. May be listening music is about enjoyment than importance?

[@sidesup8286]

@@GodfreyMann I think by the word "Important"he might have meant and better used the phrases: music that stands out from the crowd, music that doesn't sound like a thousand other things, music that explores new ground and will carve out a memorable notch in history because of it. I am not saying those things, because I have never heard Jazz At The Pawnshop. Being so biased and a fan of great sound; I'd probably love it, if the music and playing is good. The recordings that impress me the most are ones with layering and the audiophile process unravels the orchestral fabric like my first moving coil cartridge did. Or unravels the layering on rock productions or Jazz, especially Big Band.

[@audioupgrades]

The Proprius tapes are well-known for their high audio quality. I use them as reference recordings because you know how they should sound. I don't listen to them for the music because the styles of performance are dated and the musicianship wasn't always great. These luxury edirions are probably aimed at people who already paid hundreds of thousands for their systems. Fancy packaging and laser etching clearly does not affect the sound quality.