Dude, SK Gaming was around as an esports organization years before WoW existed; they were not an offshoot of a WoW guild.
@phailpoet16514 жыл бұрын
They where still a wow guild as well.. Method was also not a strict wow team either.. What's your point?
@jeremyemerson4 жыл бұрын
@@phailpoet1651 Because the video explicitly states the organization's roots are as a WoW guild, which is not true. They were around in the 90s before WoW was even a thought. Thanks for asking.
@jean-lucasymptotic50834 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they formed in 97 with Quake, and really rose to prominence with Counter-Strike. What sets SK apart in wow is, I believe, they were the first major "brand" guild/clan to branch into WoW and fund a roster, that roster was Curse (yes the same curse from the video) , and bring sponsorship to WoW, along with rival Mousesports, another Counter-Strike org who invested in Nihilum. Eventually SK Gaming ended up taking ownership of Nihilum's roster, with the name Nihilum being kept by Mousesports. And most assuredly the "motherland" of modern competitive gaming was Counter-Strike and Quake. Tons wrong in the video in that segment.
@phailpoet16514 жыл бұрын
@@jeremyemerson thanks, didn't catch that part.. Good lookin out.
@picibobo4 жыл бұрын
there's no way in hell SK Gaming started with WoW dude..
@ShinsouNL4 жыл бұрын
Started late 1990's in Quake i think, but got big in CS with the Swedish roster.
@BarteQQQQQ4 жыл бұрын
Milan Szolloskei exactly, they were already a big CS name in early 2000, fighting for top1 spot with CoL and NiP with Heaton in the roster 😀
@bs5am4 жыл бұрын
@@BarteQQQQQ accurate!
@DriftNick4 жыл бұрын
Just another Punkrat video with zero research done.
@oyster_wow53574 жыл бұрын
sk gaming started as schroet kommando - german q1 clan
@napalmsteak4 жыл бұрын
I'm a fan of you @Punkrat, but I'm really shocked to not see Elitist Jerks anywhere. I cannot name a guild that impacted Vanilla/TBC quite like them. They crunched most of the numbers to figure out mechanics and strats for most of the community. Yeah, they had their inner turmoil and arrogance, but they were THE guild to listen to and follow in the early days. I think most of us followed their class/strategy guides to the T, there was nothing quite like them.
@helpmeinburning4 жыл бұрын
A lot of the contributors on their forums weren't in elitist jerks which makes them not really worthy to be on the list.
@kolecava3 жыл бұрын
They were what Buildzoid is to the computer modding. Man some good info on their forums. Rip
@niklas55474 жыл бұрын
Great nostalgia video especially mentioning warcraftmovies. Though SK gaming was prominent in CS and quake way before wow
@helpmeinburning3 жыл бұрын
Some important facts that are missing - ensidia was a merge of sk gaming and nihilum and kungen was not the gm. - sk gaming was Curse but got renamed due to a sponsorship deal. - method didn't rise in mop, they were consistently in top 10 since vanilla and got world 2nd vashj for example.
@Mongo11b4 жыл бұрын
I don’t know how you didn’t mention Pals for Life. Leroy Jenkins!
@SimonMittermaier4 жыл бұрын
SK Gaming was an huge esport organisation before and absorbed curse as a pve guild during tbc as Wow pve was so popular back in the day. There was even a small tv station for gaming in germany that showed raids on tv. Thats also why you don't have curse first kills in the end of tbc and no sk gaming first kills at the beginning, they were the same people, they where kind of the number two in Burning Crusade and thats why SK gaming sponsored them to push them over nihilum, which eventually worked in sunwell.
@ONnif3R4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, Curse (the guild) actually renamed to Sk Gaming at the end of TBC. Also Ensidia wasn't "Nihilum 2.0" per se. They are actually the merge of Nihilum and Sk Gaming (ex Curse) in order to form a "super guild".
@SwoleBenji4 жыл бұрын
Never forget Tichondrius's "Lègend" guild, toted as the "worlds fastest leveling guild. "
@nillantili7734 жыл бұрын
Just a note. Wow classic was releaset i AU/NA nov 2004, in Eu Feb 2005.
@JT-914 жыл бұрын
On Area 52, we had Vicarious in BC. They were a US top 50. They are famous for giving the legendary bow to a rogue
@TheThoridian5 ай бұрын
I loved this game for over 10 years. Started vanilla, about 4 months after release.
@EricLeeStepp4 жыл бұрын
Method has been a Top 5 World guild since TBC. That is why they are considered so dominant. No other guild has been consistently that good for that long.
@marc685214 жыл бұрын
Personally miss Deus Vox, I was never part of it but they were the top raiding guild of Laughing Skull. The day cataclysm came the guild ended and our server went from full to medium just like that.
@michaeledwardkhan2 жыл бұрын
I raided with Curse who was absorbed by SK gaming, who later merged with Nihilum to become Ensidia. SK Gaming was already very well established in eSports with a huge community/social network akin to Facebook back then from the Counter Strike scene. Just thought that should be corrected otherwise cool video man.
@bigsoccer244 жыл бұрын
In vanilla, I watched more than the world first guys. They had an awesome forum to talk in. Miss that more than most things in classic.
@disrupt944 жыл бұрын
is fires of heaven not the everquest guild led by alex afrasiabi?
@phailpoet16514 жыл бұрын
I miss my bois in blood legion; guys if any of you are watching this.. Let's go back :D
@pwnsyou824 жыл бұрын
Phailpoet Pretty sure they’re on Herod Alliance.
@sergezede4 жыл бұрын
No Goon Squad or Elitist Jerks?
@ceegronlee4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your nostalgia content. Keep it up!
@deathdude1914 жыл бұрын
Death and taxes guild is on the Old Blanchy server in classic wow, but has now been disbanded and split into Phalanx and Afterlife.
@superscope272 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure the leader of Blood Legion was the leader of an alliance guild on Stormreaver server named Duality. They were constantly number 2 on the server behind Impervious who had the crazy rogue Jider who soloed 25man Patchwork during Wotlk.
@3rKoPlaysMinecraft4 жыл бұрын
Can we get current guilds now? Both classic and retail? Like who are Apes? Who are Progress?
@ssreckov4 жыл бұрын
The guys who put in as much effort into playing the game as any other guild of vanilla era
@Ryan_hey4 жыл бұрын
A video on the biggest private server guilds would definitely be cool. Besides hearing of them randomly from time to time before classic's launch, the only way I learned about them was through a video from StaySafeTV where he invited numerous members from each of the popular pserver guilds and talked to them about classic wow for like 2 hours (it's on youtube). Great video.
@elyk19854 жыл бұрын
Slick vid bro like always..takes me back
@keithbattle27064 жыл бұрын
Gotta mention Premonition from Wrath. Always competing during the Paragon dominance. Vodka got super popular with raid logs rankings and boss speed kills in early Cataclysm.
@Slanco24 Жыл бұрын
Dude I swear to god my dad was a guild leader of Fury back in 2004-2007
@nathanhill48103 жыл бұрын
WHU was an amazing all dwarf hunter guild from Icecrown that were the go to for hunters world wide in both content and dps breakdown--we love our hunters!
@ChristianJosephs4 жыл бұрын
FURY for me. Legends during time where we didn't had any big guides like nowadays.
@abdullahsheik114 жыл бұрын
Yo Punkrat. You should make a video about dying servers. We have low pop Judgement/Dragonfang on EU for example that might never see the AQ gates open.
@healsohard20902 жыл бұрын
When i think of vanilla guilds i instantly think of D&T
@Inthreadwetrust24 жыл бұрын
Great video, was fun to hear some of those names again.
@Watthead804 жыл бұрын
Muradin was the guild to beat for our server. Vaosan was the first person I ever saw with the 310% mount in TBC. They had some realm firsts during Wrath. I think during or after Wrath they fizzled out.
@The_Nemeses4 жыл бұрын
JUICE - From Stormreaver/Stormscale
@blech714 жыл бұрын
Oh how I really miss those Blood Legion vs. DIE Pvp vids in Blackrock Mountain on the way to raiding. I remember downloading and ripping those vids from early KZbin and warcraftmovies.com and watching them at work... coworkers didn’t mind cause they liked the music... I liked both; the epic footage and the cheesy alt rock music lol. Ah the memories and nostalgia!
@SoCreaty2 жыл бұрын
German Guild on "Arguswacht" - Champions of Alliance. Good Memorys!
@chga25154 жыл бұрын
Impervious on Stormreaver was always among the top guilds in the world for several expansions
@Spinexus4 жыл бұрын
Method is the greatest guild in WoW history even as someone who doesn´t especially like them it has to be said. Greatness has to be appreciated!
@jamesleney83834 жыл бұрын
Do a "best arena teams" or "best arena players" video
@miketaylor35464 жыл бұрын
or 'most broken comps'... double frost dk at start of Wotlk anyone?
@Herp211874 жыл бұрын
It’s funny to me that you wouldn’t reference Pals for Life... all things aside Leroy Jenkins is one of the most famous thing to test the span of time and it surpasses clears and world firsts imo since the average joe knows it and the average Joe wouldn’t know who did what and when unless they were “invested” into wow community.
@BadReactor044 жыл бұрын
Anyone from Whisperwind back in vanilla through Wrath has fond memories of Oasis/Exalted, and the guild leader, Yuk. He reached across factions, held server-wide events with prizes, and was overall a class-act. Classic actually brought a lot of former members back (including Yuk), and we can be found on Atiesh, if any former Whisperwind players want to come say hello!
@snowman20504 жыл бұрын
nothing about Elitist Jerks but you mentioned Curse o_0
@nieuwland01294 жыл бұрын
Kinda sad that all those guilds stopped playing WoW. The interest in WoW has declined so much. Crazy to think that it was such a big game back in the days.
@3rKoPlaysMinecraft4 жыл бұрын
Every King must fall
@NorNamor4 жыл бұрын
No king rules forever
@nieuwland01294 жыл бұрын
Satsuki Kiryūin True. I started playing WoW 2 years ago. Unfortunately I missed the good times. I remember how big it was back around 2008. My whole school played it and it was populair like Fortnite is today. The gaming community has drastically changed. People want rewards without effort. WoW Classic will never attract the younger generation because of that. No one wants to pay €15 a month for a outdated game where you need to put a lot of time in to achieve something small. Instant rewarding creates more dopamine and holds your attention longer. The WoW ‘generation’ also has grown up and lost interest in the game itself. Call of Duty suffers from the same problem. They aren’t relevant since Black ops 2. People just want to be a champion without putting in the time, work and effort. Games like Fortnite are great for that. In my opinion, I think that WoW retail will hold some subscribers for a few years. But the interest will die out eventually. Especially when things like the PS5 and the next Fortinite/PuBG comes out. I think that Classic Wrath with progression could maybe evolve in something great.
@miketaylor35464 жыл бұрын
People grow up, get jobs, have kids, can't just sit around cat assing all day and play a game.
@miketaylor35464 жыл бұрын
all those guys from those early guilds... yeah they're in their 30's now... they have real lives to worry about, chasing internet fame is a young mans game.
@michahs1 Жыл бұрын
fury was only significant in that the door to bwl broke and no one could get past vael. fury somehow got through their door while the rest of the entire world could not go further than vael for a brief time, giving them a head start on everyone else. they never finished a dungeon first, and in fact they didn't finish MC, Onyxia, BWL, or AQ40 first on their own server. Ascent on Horde side beat them to all of those finishes on Medivh.
@andreasjohansson19904 жыл бұрын
Ensidia was a merge of Nihilum and SK Gaming.
@ownageDan4 жыл бұрын
I remember when they were still called Schröt Kommando back in the Quake / UT days. Damn I feel old :O
@andreasjohansson19904 жыл бұрын
Herp McDerp haha yeah me too!
@Zeovm4 жыл бұрын
i wish i could find the livestream they did of sunwell back in the days, it was awesome
@andreasjohansson19904 жыл бұрын
Zeov yeah I’ve tried looking for it, can’t find it anywhere. That stream had the first mention of ”min/maxing” I ever heard in wow 😅
@Zeovm4 жыл бұрын
@@andreasjohansson1990 problem is they hosted it on a site called joost, which didn't survive, so im afraid its not possible to retrieve :(
@Neinshearts4 жыл бұрын
Playing on BG 9 the worst thing was seeing that death and taxes guild tag in your arena.
@350zKiller4 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t go as far to say wotlk was the peek of wow.. I’d say that was the beginning of the destruction of wow with patch 3.3
@helpmeinburning4 жыл бұрын
2.4.3 was the end for me when achievements were released.
@Bleaxz65846 ай бұрын
Bc was the pinnacle
@Pegabeee4 жыл бұрын
Limit has not dominated BFA, they did the last raid tier without a question but to place them over Method at this stage is a little more than just biased.
@budimorealni4864 жыл бұрын
nice video,keep up the good work :)
@tidehunterzamora93154 жыл бұрын
How funny it is that vodka got the semi bosses while the paragon got the major bosses
@c3vlar344 жыл бұрын
Missed the whole drama if Dragon Soul and looking for raid where the top world guilds were exploiting the lockout to get the all powerful 4 set bonuses. This resulted in multiple guild suspensions and taking a lot of top world guilds out of the race. A few even called it quits after this
@SenpaiTheExplorer3 жыл бұрын
i miss your content so much
@JDizz04134 жыл бұрын
Dang where's Premonition!
@grassrot4 жыл бұрын
What about The Axemen, Rebuff, Relentless, Shadow Ryders, Scrub Busters, Elitist Jerks?
@jamielee27134 жыл бұрын
frostwolves, death and taxes, ensidia, nocturnus vexalari. nilhime, fury, method? some I remember.
@DoctorPlay Жыл бұрын
Blood Legion should be on the list because I’m a former member.
@Coldworldx23 күн бұрын
Ayo punkrat i wana get back into wow what dps class slams in the new expan.
@Riokaii4 жыл бұрын
Gotta give an honorable mention to Premonituon for holding down NA in wotlk/cata and
@josephpayne90114 жыл бұрын
winter squid are gone in 3 weeks get farming :)
@Hello-pu6fw3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know if my guild made the list....
@atiger014 жыл бұрын
What website has the list of all world first kills?
@johanlahti844 жыл бұрын
we were actually only about 15 minutes after Death and Taxes on that viscidus kill, not many guild went in and prio that boss since its not needed to progress further.
@ecafckuf4 жыл бұрын
@Punkrat why don't you like Method? :)
@ajmDRUM3 жыл бұрын
Curse is team liquid now
@az75784 жыл бұрын
I cringed every time I heard “Nihilum”, because my brain thinks it should have a similar pronunciation to “nihilism”.
@Schnot4 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@Obeast1174 жыл бұрын
Weird I never thought of it that way. My brain always defaulted to pronouncing it Knee Hi Lum
@lowky44154 жыл бұрын
Unic - Gorgonash EU Alliance - Server first Cleard - MC /Nax
@SpencerJ2894 жыл бұрын
Can’t forget The Greybeards
@George-xb5ey4 жыл бұрын
who remembers the guild Saga from Illidan? world first atiesh
@ro3in3273 жыл бұрын
Gay
@craptor12344 жыл бұрын
DnT was big in AQ, they would of gotten wfirst cthun and kelthuzad if it wasn't for blizzard cucking them purposefully. Blizz literally would wait to release patches to fix bugs once dnt was done raiding just in time for when nihilum would start. This was to spite vocal people like XI who called out blizz for being shit.
@nuggetpiece2 жыл бұрын
The devs were definitely up to fuckery back then. I cant say they "purposefully" fucked over DnT, but it wouldnt surprise me. I quit wow shortly after we were doing cthun runs on the beta server. The devs would get on our vent and talk to us while we would test the encounter. They seemed always super happy with how broken alot of shit was early on. I know a couple other guilds like death n taxes were doing the same and we would sub some people in and out. I dont remember the other guilds anymore but im fairly sure a few others helped. Its been what like 15-16 years? My memory is fuzzy on all but the most basic stuff.
@GrimJRS4 жыл бұрын
Every guild I've made failed. Because the playerbase is largely moronic and not as active as me. During wotlk I made a guild that had mount runs, dueling tournaments and super simple and fair rules that promoted mature environment. But people can't follow the most basic rules. Very sad.
@gneemoebaggins34574 жыл бұрын
I thought for sure gentlemen's club was going to be on this list
@btuhey4 жыл бұрын
Blackhand. Afflicted. Resto Druid
@fartknocker57083 жыл бұрын
What about STARS? That's a classic part of WoW guild history with their world first Yogg 0 kill.
@Gondar43214 жыл бұрын
You are kinda over rating Vodka, they were good but they never had the chance of getting any serious word 1. Also Blood Legion was dominated by Method during MoP and not otherwise / they secured just one world first last boss kill. You should speak more about Paragon / Method in my opinion because they invented the new raiding.
@Froopih4 жыл бұрын
and even the world firsts they got might be due to the timezone difference between US and EU so .. dunno, they don't belong on this list imo
@joshcyr38634 жыл бұрын
What's Boomer for delusional Euros? That's you guys.
@Froopih4 жыл бұрын
@@joshcyr3863 I never said I was European did I? Besides Limit have recently shown that they are competitive after all. No need to be butthurt Joshy :)
@milliesaysokboomer2 жыл бұрын
Guys my guild in retail doesn't help me (newbie) in leveling. I don't have chromie time as a newbie so I can't queue for dungeons where I have quests in and absolutely no one is helping me except this one girl. Is the whole wow community so toxic and unhelpful or should I switch guilds?
@mattdavenport7894 жыл бұрын
No mention of exorus or Starz?
@wigglemonster35204 жыл бұрын
No shutout for pvp guilds? :( were given recognition by blizzard for creating the most rank 14's in classic.
@sqeric4 жыл бұрын
Where are apes
@nyamdavau4 жыл бұрын
we still know dat paragon is still strongest guild to this day. many have failed, contrreversy , lies , payment, taxes , even hackin the game , some did XPloit. paragon beat hardest mop bosses 10hc, beat wod bosses with clever idea nobody thought like them, dont want to mention LK or Rag they were hard bosses. they stayed true their nature. Didnt become English speaking guild instead they played only with finnish ppl which is hard for eu players. If they had 20-25 Raiders i still think they wouldve got few more world firsts.
@woochitelj4 жыл бұрын
To all of you complaining that "Nihilum" should be pronounced in a different manner please go and check how the creators of the guild pronounce it first then come here and comment. It doesn't matter if you "think" that it's supposed to be pronounced in a certain way, it only matters how the people that have created the guild pronounce it. So, yeah, tldr. Punkrat is right here. (check the video "nihilum PvE")
@mattd62444 жыл бұрын
you missed Resurrected, that guild dominated multiple servers
@jeremyemerson4 жыл бұрын
By the way, Ulduar has two Us. It's not Uldar. It's Ulduar.
@SaA-cu7lw4 жыл бұрын
((Frozen Zenedar)) was one of the Greatest back in Vanilla
@Dreadina2 жыл бұрын
I miss Funny ass guilds like War Ensemble and Ledends of Marr I miss the days of community 😪
@full_metal24524 жыл бұрын
Feralina US Horde
@primelegend95044 жыл бұрын
Didn't Limit spawn off of Blood Legion?
@greggfridline42603 жыл бұрын
I think most relms had that one guild that was above everyone. My favorite name for a guild was YARG, I thought that name was cool. Yet another raiding guild it stood for
@chikuman62244 жыл бұрын
starts 1:20
@christophernielsen20104 жыл бұрын
What about Olympus?
@killerhealers4 жыл бұрын
Paragon was the greatest Guild, in World of Warcraft's History.
@martinholm8708 Жыл бұрын
Forte?
@denisvezirski52104 жыл бұрын
Limit got world first in shadowlands aswell
@derekrank45723 жыл бұрын
i wonder if the young guys today playing WOW are better skilled than the players back in 2004?
@stemina324 жыл бұрын
Nihilum
@kolecava3 жыл бұрын
HC LK kill was even more drama, i felt it on the server, literally... Also wasn't there STARS? Asian guild?
@AkleksM4 жыл бұрын
Shanks
@Hindukush_JW4 жыл бұрын
Nilbog, Curse, State of the art
@paulmcf11154 жыл бұрын
Kungan knew what the Saronite bombs would do, there are vods of them bombing nothing. Theres no way it was an accident
@chrijani74 жыл бұрын
PAUL MCF link?
@derekrank45723 жыл бұрын
lots of players thought they were pretty amazing..but little did they know there were thousands of players 10 times better than they were.
@tgiorgio32 жыл бұрын
Conquest Guild Kilrogg server. Vanilla GODS..
@gurtner94 жыл бұрын
Now about private server guilds pls :)
@jesse82504 жыл бұрын
Putting blood legion over paragon and Limit over Method. O_O
@Punkrat4 жыл бұрын
The list is in chronological order, its not a top 10. Its just going by relevance per expansion.
@jesse82504 жыл бұрын
@@Punkrat had the video playing on background while working. My B