The Greatest Light Tank of WW2?

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@GWMedic65
@GWMedic65 2 жыл бұрын
Great documentary as usual.....my only gripe is that you used film of the M3 Lee at the start and never showed a M3-M5 Stuart at all.
@McPh1741
@McPh1741 2 жыл бұрын
I was about to say.
@mcminiatures8341
@mcminiatures8341 2 жыл бұрын
Was about to comment the same.
@Gojko42
@Gojko42 2 жыл бұрын
@@McPh1741 not just film but also talking about the high silhouette... definitely a blunder
@hockeywarrior
@hockeywarrior 2 жыл бұрын
Also, they show a British Crusader tank when saying the 30mm gun was inferior against the German "Panzers"... Lazy.
@Gojko42
@Gojko42 2 жыл бұрын
@@hockeywarrior good catch, noticed that one too
@tpaul802
@tpaul802 2 жыл бұрын
My father in-law was a M-24 tank driver in Korea. He just passed away, RIP cpl Mier. We miss you.
@destroyerarmor
@destroyerarmor 2 жыл бұрын
Korea will be united
@TankFerretPresents
@TankFerretPresents 6 ай бұрын
Till Fiddler's Green...
@andrethered1
@andrethered1 2 жыл бұрын
My dad was in the Anzio Invasion, was part of a tank crew. He never spoke about most of his time in WWII and we never knew he was in this battle until after he passed in 2003. While going through his belongings after he died, we found a coffee table book on WWII and there was a tab on one page. We looked on the page and he had underlined a paragraph that describes his unit , 5th Army, going into Anzio.
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 2 жыл бұрын
The “Ghost Army” of Allied inflatable tanks were the "Greatest Lightest" of WW2 👀
@kyles9320
@kyles9320 2 жыл бұрын
Valid point. Unstoppable.
@RE-zl7sy
@RE-zl7sy 2 жыл бұрын
-_-
@dominictaylor8672
@dominictaylor8672 2 жыл бұрын
That's gold
@cookiedefender566
@cookiedefender566 2 жыл бұрын
None were even lost!
@MichaelMiller-op8fe
@MichaelMiller-op8fe 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why they didn't use one of those as a decoy and have two or three nice Sherman's disguised near it while they just sit there and wait. It's easily portable and they could have a lot of fun with that. They could even lure in other fighter planes to a anti-aircraft battery with inflatable p-51s or bombers. At the least make them waste their resources.
@CarlosGomez-vt9pk
@CarlosGomez-vt9pk 2 жыл бұрын
The M24 Chaffee is categorically my favorite US WWII tank. My Dad was a loader in the M41 Walker Bulldog, so he "kind of" knows what it was like to be in a Chaffee. The Chaffee model is great for SF kit-bashing. I never knew about the "Panther Pup" nickname or that it fought in the Battle of the Bulge. Gonna remember that. Thank you for making this video!
@jacksoncross9265
@jacksoncross9265 2 жыл бұрын
yeah im pretty sure the m-24 never ever was confused at all for any other tank
@CWargh63
@CWargh63 2 жыл бұрын
The M41 is my favorite tank of all time, design-wise.
@brooksroth345
@brooksroth345 Жыл бұрын
My favorite tank from WW2 was the pzkfw IV. The M-24 Is by far my favorite Korean war tank.
@CarlosGomez-vt9pk
@CarlosGomez-vt9pk 11 ай бұрын
@@brooksroth345 Oh yeah. I build the pzkfw IV many a time in 1:72 scale. Another good memory.
@alessandromsk3195
@alessandromsk3195 2 жыл бұрын
My grandfather served in a Greek M21 Chaffee as a gunner. They were used along with M18 Locust support vehicles. They were very capable and reliable in the difficult Greek terrain and the gun surprisingly was effective in the situation that it was used. There in the yugoslav border ready for defense against infantry that's why
@1996FordCrownVictoria
@1996FordCrownVictoria Жыл бұрын
The M18 is called the Hellcat not the Locust. And the Chaffee is M24 not M21
@ml-fishing1341
@ml-fishing1341 9 ай бұрын
M24 Chaffee and M18 Hellcat, the Locust was the M22 light tank.
@dimitriosgiannikopoulos6625
@dimitriosgiannikopoulos6625 5 ай бұрын
Some 200+ M24s have been used by the Greek Army till the 90s. They even took part in the coup of 1967... A colleague of my, been a M24 commander defending the East Aegean islands in the late 80s, told me that the crews were delighted with the easy of use and accuracy of the 75mmm gun!
@bjkjoseph
@bjkjoseph 2 жыл бұрын
You keep showing the M3 Lee in North Africa that’s not the Stewart, you’re narrating is good but the videos that go along with it are terrible
@ryanhahn7251
@ryanhahn7251 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, then says “German panzers” and show a clip of the British Covenanter. Makes him look totally ignorant.
@sethkesler6889
@sethkesler6889 Жыл бұрын
Give the guy a break... It's more about the narration and story than it is the pictures... Would you rather a still of the correct tank for the duration of the story?
@ghostinthemachine8243
@ghostinthemachine8243 Жыл бұрын
For some strange reason, the designation M3 was used for both the Stuart 'light' tank and the Lee 'medium' tank. I think that's how the mix-up occurred.
@conradnelson5283
@conradnelson5283 Жыл бұрын
Videos may not relate to the script
@tmcgill2219
@tmcgill2219 Жыл бұрын
@@ryanhahn7251 It’s like whoever wrote the script never saw the video. Clearly whoever selected those video clips was not very knowledgeable of the subject matter.
@gemyniraptor8626
@gemyniraptor8626 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this was intentional, but at all the segments where you are describing the M3 Stuart, you have imagery of the M3 Lee/Grant Medium.
@5RndsFFE
@5RndsFFE 2 жыл бұрын
Probably a disconnect between the narrator and who ever does the video editing. Early in the video when he mentions superior German panzers it shows a British Crusader mkII
@thelordofcringe
@thelordofcringe 2 жыл бұрын
Every video is like this recently. The editor or whoever is getting the archival footage is not at all knowledgeable on military history.
@TedTheHobbyist
@TedTheHobbyist 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelordofcringe Worse is why is no one doing fact checking or video checking like how most videos/paper/blog has fact and word checks before posting
@chuckw1113
@chuckw1113 2 жыл бұрын
Several images describing the M24 were actually M18 Hellcat tank destroyers. The M18 was based on the M24, using several components. The 18 was equipped with a 76mm gun in an open topped turret. The gun was capable of destroying Panthers and Tigers, which the M24 could only do with difficulty.
@mondriaa
@mondriaa 2 жыл бұрын
this channel is getting worse by the video, at the moment you are better of reading the M24 wiki page then this
@endoranddeath6481
@endoranddeath6481 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of the tanks shown in the beginning of the video are not M3 Stuarts but instead M3 Lee's. The Lee was a medium tank outfitted with a hull 75mm and a commander 37mm. Its quite different from the Stuart even though it shares the M3 designation.
@BRANFED
@BRANFED 2 жыл бұрын
yea.. i noticed that too
@goaway7346
@goaway7346 2 жыл бұрын
Not just at the beginning. Looks like whoever made this video just Googled "M3" and assumed what they got was the Stuart.
@peakbagger3180
@peakbagger3180 2 жыл бұрын
In Fact I never saw a Stuart in the entire video.
@BRANFED
@BRANFED 2 жыл бұрын
@@peakbagger3180 come to think of it.. i dont believe i did either.. saw alot of m3 grants/lees though
@weswatkins2810
@weswatkins2810 2 жыл бұрын
@@BRANFED If you pay attention, you will briefly see one at about 3:30
@HeySergeantJones
@HeySergeantJones 2 жыл бұрын
There's a very glaring mistake during production of this video in the footage used for the "m3 Stuart" light tanks, every time the narrator speaks of the M3 Light tank, the vastly larger, heavier, and way way different M3 grant and lee MEDIUM tanks are shown. It's an easy mistake to make if you don't specify which M3 vehicle you're talking about, and probably as simple as the editor looking for stock footage of "M3 TANK" into some sort of repository. It's not a super big deal, but it's going to bother the heck out of any Tank enthusiast that watches this mini-doc, me included.
@haplosplatshot1611
@haplosplatshot1611 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@markwestergren1709
@markwestergren1709 2 жыл бұрын
I agree completely and was about to post the same comment!
@AngryMarine-il6ej
@AngryMarine-il6ej 2 жыл бұрын
I caught that one as well. I've watched some of the other videos posted by whoever this guy is. He is constantly making mistakes with the wrong footage and editing. I saw a couple other videos where he was citing directly from several Wikipedia sources.
@Tabloid_Hedron
@Tabloid_Hedron 2 жыл бұрын
I was going to comment the same. the M3 Lee probably popped up because it's more well known versus the stuart, as it is comically bad and made a good load of tank memes.
@aleks1939
@aleks1939 2 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this, but you got it covered.
@BrothersInArmsEnglish
@BrothersInArmsEnglish 2 жыл бұрын
Bob Semple tank was the greatest light tank of WW2, change my mind.
@BohemianBob
@BohemianBob 2 жыл бұрын
I see you are a cultured man of armor
@Swellington_
@Swellington_ 2 жыл бұрын
I concur
@HarenunHoppus
@HarenunHoppus 2 жыл бұрын
Cant argue with that
@chubbymoth5810
@chubbymoth5810 2 жыл бұрын
I think that one was camouflaged as a barn and as mobile? Yeah,.. brilliant concept.
@jaex9617
@jaex9617 2 жыл бұрын
100%.
@Kneon_Knight
@Kneon_Knight 2 жыл бұрын
I've always had a fondness for this little beast, and I'm glad it's finally getting some love.
@jamesclark1001
@jamesclark1001 2 жыл бұрын
You keep showing an M3 Grant medium tank. That is a different beast.
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 2 жыл бұрын
"The Bridge at Remagen (1969)" is an excellent World War II movie. Not just because it was shot on location in Czechoslovakia, which still had a bridge that looked almost exactly like the bridge at Remagen, Germany, but also because of the multiple M-24 Chaffee's shown in action.
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 2 жыл бұрын
M-24's are also seen in the 1965 film "Battle Of The Bulge." However M-47's play the role of King Tigers. Understandable really, King Tigers are a little hard to come by.
@AudieHolland
@AudieHolland 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 I remember, unfortunately. I guess the M-24's were the best part of the movie. They stood in for Shermans I guess.
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 2 жыл бұрын
@@AudieHolland Possibly, although they never called them Shermans, they were just there. It's a good thing the Spanish Army had a few still on inventory, at least they were period correct. The best part of the movie in my opinion was "Panzerlied!" 😃
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 Humorous note.... the lyrics of The Star Spangled Banner work perfectly to the music of The Panzerlied! 😎
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 2 жыл бұрын
@@lancerevell5979 Holy jeez, you're right! It's running through my head even as we speak!
@rolfagten857
@rolfagten857 2 жыл бұрын
This tank also played a role in the war movie "The Battle of the Bulge" (1965) actor Telly Savalas drove it around under the name bargain basement. He played his role as "Guffy" with verve
@davidbeattie4294
@davidbeattie4294 2 жыл бұрын
Great looking vehicle. Find it hard to believe there was room for 5 crew but it made sense to have an extra crewman in a recon vehicle who could focus on the radios.
@samuelclayton4405
@samuelclayton4405 2 жыл бұрын
The TC would maintain Comms.
@righty5890
@righty5890 2 жыл бұрын
I've seen one irl not long ago and it's quite big, well bigger than i expected so yeah there's room for a 5th crew member
@PitFriend1
@PitFriend1 2 жыл бұрын
The tank usually just had four men crewing it, the commander, gunner, driver, and bow machine gunner. There usually wasn’t a dedicated loader assigned since it wasn’t intended to be in serious combat. The bow gunner was referred to as a “cannoneer” and would act as the loader if needed.
@SPACETIGER89
@SPACETIGER89 2 жыл бұрын
Much of the footage used when talking about the Stuart is of the M3 Lee, rather than the M3 Stuart
@sammymartin7891
@sammymartin7891 2 жыл бұрын
I spent 50 years building model Tanks. 20 years as a Tanker in the US Army 2years as an instructor at the US Army armor school and volunteer at the Patton Museum. and Never heard anyone refer to an M24 has a "Panther Pup" !!!
@ThePrader
@ThePrader 2 жыл бұрын
I also trained on tanks at Ft. Knox. My commander was Col.J.W. Thurman. I was a US Navy LT. an O-3 ( Captain to you army pukes). I was sent under ACTDTRU orders to Ft. Knox by the Navy to learn Army Armour doctrine. I learned to enjoy "J.W."'s rather weird since of humor. We became "friends" , as much as an O-6 can be a friend to an O-3. But he must have enjoyed my odd since of Navy humor- he " gave me" my own M-60A1 to crash round the tanker course at Ft. Knox. Did you ever meet "JW"? or his hand picked Command Sgt Major, Joe Whitworth? There was a short time when we were a "terrible trio" at Ft. Knox. I miss them both. May they RIP. If you never knew "J.W", google him? He was a legend and should be honored and remembered. All "tread-heads " should be. I saw them as the Army land version of a DDG. Only smaller.
@sammymartin7891
@sammymartin7891 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePrader I was an E6 instructor at the Armor Officers Advanced Course in 84 and 85. The only officer that I met outside my chain of command and our students was LTG Frederic J. Brown
@grantm6514
@grantm6514 2 ай бұрын
And wouldn't a baby Panther be a panther _cub_ or _kitten_ ?
@sammymartin7891
@sammymartin7891 2 ай бұрын
@@ThePrader I taught the armor officer's Advanced course Phase 2 and Phase 6 Soviet weapons and tactics. I never had the honor of meeting everyone
@samuelclayton4405
@samuelclayton4405 2 жыл бұрын
I served in a Mechinized Infantry Division. My Vehicle was an M-125a1. It was a variant of the M-113a1 APC. My Squad had 7 Men in it we worked and trained in our Track. The Squad leader was a buck Sergeant. He maintained all comms.
@mikeelliott2736
@mikeelliott2736 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure what this comment has to do with the M24 Chaffee?
@cuckerdoddle183
@cuckerdoddle183 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeelliott2736 not sure why you care!!
@jesper112183
@jesper112183 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeelliott2736 you ought to be more respectful of such a veteran.
@PracticalTacticalFedeli
@PracticalTacticalFedeli 2 жыл бұрын
@@mikeelliott2736 not sure why you had to type up some bitch-made comment
@Omni_Shambles
@Omni_Shambles Жыл бұрын
@@jesper112183 lol "such a veteran". Do you mean a pawn or tool of western imperialism?
@88fatpiper
@88fatpiper 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I liked that you talked slower and at a more steady pace than some of your older videos. Definitely makes it easier to follow! :)
@scotthunnicutt1225
@scotthunnicutt1225 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder if it is an ai voice the way it is scripted.
@andreperrault5393
@andreperrault5393 2 жыл бұрын
The M-24 was used by the French in Indochina (Vietnam), and were known to withstand NVA/Vietcong/Vietminh attacks, even RPG’s of the time. A tough little tank.
@allenheaps2084
@allenheaps2084 2 жыл бұрын
This is probably one of the best-looking if not THE best-looking tank of WW2. Along with the (in my opinion) Panzer Mk III, PZ 38T, Tiger I, T-34 and early modal Sherman tanks.
@gregbailey1753
@gregbailey1753 2 жыл бұрын
M18 Hellcat TD
@thomasstevenhebert
@thomasstevenhebert 2 жыл бұрын
The Crusader is the best looking tank with the M-24 right behind it
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 2 жыл бұрын
In the Chieftain's opinion the Panzer III was the best tank in the world in 1939. And once the initial shock wore off Panzer III crews figured out how to deal with the Soviet T-34/76.
@thomasstevenhebert
@thomasstevenhebert 2 жыл бұрын
@@wayneantoniazzi2706 dude we are talking about how they look not their performance
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 2 жыл бұрын
@@thomasstevenhebert Panzer III's look good too! 😃 Although as far as looks go in my opinion the most terrifying looking tank of WW2 is the King Tiger. Even almost 80 years later a King Tiger is still one scary-looking tank! I can't imagine what a GI Joe in the Ardennes or a GI Ivan on the steppes of Russia thought when he saw one for the first time. Maybe we don't want to?
@urgaynknowit
@urgaynknowit 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t know why I love this channel so much, your voice, the music, it just makes whatever you’re talking about sound cool and captivating
@viper2148
@viper2148 2 жыл бұрын
I still love the M3 Stuart, and those 'Haunted Tank' comic books I read in the 1960s-70s.
@RWildekrav66
@RWildekrav66 2 жыл бұрын
Jeb and his crew kicked everybody’s ass , panthers , tiger, Bf109’s you name it . And all with that 37 mm cannon and a few Ma Dueces ! Don’t forget Sgt .Rock
@viper2148
@viper2148 2 жыл бұрын
​@@RWildekrav66 and... 'The Unknown Soldier'. This is how I learned about the Greatest Generation.
@_spooT
@_spooT 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't have as much armor, but it was pretty well armored for a light tank while still maintaining speed and maneuverability, not to mention it carried the firepower of a 75mm sherman in a much more faster chasis. Like an uparmored hellcat, but less boom
@oldtanker4860
@oldtanker4860 2 жыл бұрын
There is a Chaffee at Ft. Riley in KS that I got a chance to look over just outside their museum. It is an impressive looking tank but had to have been super cramped with 5 crew.
@tommcgreevy9118
@tommcgreevy9118 2 жыл бұрын
Nope, I've been in one. Surprisingly roomy. M5 Stuart, on the other hand...tight!
@silentsurvivor2197
@silentsurvivor2197 2 жыл бұрын
Always a good day when you upload another good video
@j.robertsergertson4513
@j.robertsergertson4513 2 жыл бұрын
With a width of 9.4 inches it must've been hard to score a hit on the frontal armor !
@tomt373
@tomt373 2 жыл бұрын
I had a friend who was a mechanic and worked on these in WW2, and he said they got them to going 65mph. In Korea, the M-26's were USMC tanks, not U.S. Army.
@1961OnRock
@1961OnRock 2 жыл бұрын
From what I've read the U.S. Army Used M24, M4, M26 and M46 tanks in Korea. It is pretty well known the first tanks the U.S. Army had in Korea were the light M24 tanks that did not do well against the Nork T34 tanks.
@bizjetfixr8352
@bizjetfixr8352 2 жыл бұрын
No US Army M-26s in Korea. That would be news to Welborn "Tom" Dolvin
@rmmyt
@rmmyt 2 жыл бұрын
5:02 The Chaffee had a width of 9.4 inches? Wow, no wonder it was such a great light tank. It could hide behind a tree.
@johnbox271
@johnbox271 2 жыл бұрын
🤣
@Omni_Shambles
@Omni_Shambles 2 жыл бұрын
"8ft tall and a width of 9.4" Jesus Christ!
@curtlance117
@curtlance117 11 ай бұрын
i had to rewind to make sure i heard that right 9.4 inches.
@tomray7449
@tomray7449 9 ай бұрын
I heard that too.
@tituscelani5546
@tituscelani5546 2 жыл бұрын
My Grandfather was in the 736th Tank Battalion.
@ancientsociety79
@ancientsociety79 2 жыл бұрын
Upgraded into the NM-116, the Chaffee would serve in the Norwegian army well into the 1990s
@clintlewis8122
@clintlewis8122 2 жыл бұрын
LOVE you showing M3 Lee's as the M3 Stuarts...LOL
@Napoleon1815-l8c
@Napoleon1815-l8c 2 жыл бұрын
M-24s were used as Shermans during the 1965 movie Battle of the Bulge.
@grantm6514
@grantm6514 2 жыл бұрын
They were used as stand-ins for all sorts of tanks back in the day. It might have satisfied the grown-ups but every cinema was full of irate 14-year-olds shaking their heads.
@anthonymunoz6013
@anthonymunoz6013 Жыл бұрын
I don't want to add to the M3 controversy of the video as they appear at 1:46 getting tracks on, 2:23, 3:00, 3:30, 7:27 and 7:53. There is also a great view of the turret @ 8:09. I will give the author a buy however as he is constantly turning out great videos and the main subject was the M24. I do however want to comment on the fact that @ 0:51 and 9:32, there is some good footage of an M18 Hellcat coming up from the river. Kudos to you Dark Docs for your interesting content. You can't win them all but your successes far outweigh some oversight. Good Work!
@ret7army
@ret7army 2 жыл бұрын
A very neat thing about the Chafee was its gear box it's foward-reverse lever was separate from the 1 thru 5 gear range so it could head off in reverse as fast as it could go forward
@grantm6514
@grantm6514 2 ай бұрын
But when the French or Italians build in a useful feature like that it results in a flood of _cowardice_ memes.
@oh8wingman
@oh8wingman 2 жыл бұрын
Is there no video of an actual Stewart tank available? I ask because the footage shown keeps showing Lee's and Grant's which were medium tanks.
@andywhite40
@andywhite40 2 жыл бұрын
Many thanks for the video - I believe France kept their Chaffee's in storage for many years after WW2 and sold them as surplus possibly in the 1990's?? I live on a farm and I've always wanted to own one of these babies as a useful deterrent to trespassers because of its excellent off road capabilities!!!
@eddyjohan8650
@eddyjohan8650 2 жыл бұрын
As a detterent to trespassers......wow...nobody would want to be blown to pieces by a tank. A good idea though.
@stefcat5331
@stefcat5331 2 жыл бұрын
You show a lot of Grant and Lee M3's! The US Army had a love of the "M3" designation for everything for awhile. That 75mm gun on the Chaffee wasn't worth much in Korea against T34/85's.
@Sniperfox1
@Sniperfox1 2 жыл бұрын
The tanks depicted are the M3 Grant tank, not the Stuart tank.
@lonnietoth5765
@lonnietoth5765 5 ай бұрын
I remember as a kid , I'm 71 ( still a kid ) I read the Haunted Tank comic magazines . They had this M3 Stuart knocking out Tigers to Messerschmitt's . Still have two M3 Stuarts and two Chaffee's 1/72 scale models . ( Grandson is 3 ) .
@billyshane3804
@billyshane3804 Жыл бұрын
We installed toilets in the drivers/passenger's seats of our Bob Semple tank and drove it in long distance rallies for many years.
@josephsolomon5873
@josephsolomon5873 2 жыл бұрын
The footage is not of Stuarts but Lees and Grants.
@damonwandebrch2467
@damonwandebrch2467 2 жыл бұрын
That’s one pretty Cadillac.
@Bowl_of_roses
@Bowl_of_roses Жыл бұрын
Seems a bit confused between the M3 Stuart and the M3 Grant, which appears in most of the initial part of the video
@wymple09
@wymple09 4 күн бұрын
Am I the only one in the comments who can read? It says right in the video description.."As images and footage of actual events are not always available, Dark Docs sometimes utilizes similar historical images and footage for dramatic effect. I do my best to keep it as visually accurate as possible. All content on Dark Docs is researched, produced, and presented in historical context for educational purposes. We are history enthusiasts and are not always experts in some areas, so please don't hesitate to reach out to us with corrections, additional information, or new ideas. "
@daviddavies4657
@daviddavies4657 2 жыл бұрын
Good video!
@noctusfury6918
@noctusfury6918 2 жыл бұрын
Marine Corps: No, we don't want this pup. Too small. M24 Chaffee: Whines and whimpers with sad puppy eyes.
@floydvaughn9666
@floydvaughn9666 2 жыл бұрын
These are in The Bridge at Remagen. Yugo Army. The opening credits have about a dozen of them.
@greggweber9967
@greggweber9967 2 жыл бұрын
8:18 Were they static or did someone have to be inside the bait steering it?
@sanseijedi
@sanseijedi 2 жыл бұрын
If you can find it, the book "Brazen Chariots" by Maj. Robert Crisp is very good. His experiences in North Africa with the Royal Tank Regiment clearly explain how the M3 was such a revelation, they became known informally as Honeys, because when they were introduced, when asked what they thought of the new machines, some Tommy said, "it's a Honey, sir," and it stuck. Beyond that, the book chronicles the relatively free-ranging operations and is thoroughly enjoyable.
@toznerd6369
@toznerd6369 2 жыл бұрын
Lots of M3 Grants and Lees shown during the Stuart Succession section. Still a pretty good vid. Thanks.
@s1140285
@s1140285 2 жыл бұрын
Says M3 Stuart, shows M3 Lee instead.
@markpaul-ym5wg
@markpaul-ym5wg Жыл бұрын
Everyone needs to look closely at the beginning of this video.He did show the Stewart. Thanks for yet another fine video.
@garyhocker7876
@garyhocker7876 2 жыл бұрын
I did enjoy the video, keep up the good work.
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 2 жыл бұрын
Opening scenes, taliking M-3 Stuart while showing video of M-3 Lee medium tank.
@hertzair1186
@hertzair1186 2 жыл бұрын
Always liked the Chaffee..built an Italieri kit of it in 1/35 scale….
@lancerevell5979
@lancerevell5979 2 жыл бұрын
I built that model in my youth, and won a ribbon in a scale modeling contest. Still building models 40 years on. I have a Tamiya Chaffee in my stash that is a rebranded Italeri kit.
@richardmeo2503
@richardmeo2503 2 жыл бұрын
Another great show. I believe those tanks were used in the 65 film Battle of Bulge with Henry Fonda.
@TheSaturnV
@TheSaturnV 2 жыл бұрын
Even as a kid it bothered me that all the US vehicles in that movie were painted up in almost more German looking tri-color camoflage. Then they turned around and painted the late war King Tiger (M47's) in German grey! 😁
@NeoPsychosis-zg2ki
@NeoPsychosis-zg2ki 2 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact : Uruguay was the oldest operator of chaffee tank since 1957 to 2019. During it's service, Uruguay chaffees were received numerous upgrades, including retrofitting the original cadillac petrol engine with SAAB scania diesel engine, re-positioning the M2 HMG to the front of commander's cupola, re-bore M1919 MG to 7.62 NATO, and updated gunner sight.
@Twirlyhead
@Twirlyhead 2 жыл бұрын
The Chaffee was a great light tank but _light tank_ was never a good concept; much too vulnerable. The British got it right with the Scorpion and Scimitar when they insisted they were not light tanks but tracked reconnaissance vehicles.
@rickjohnson4956
@rickjohnson4956 2 жыл бұрын
In 1966-'68 I was stationed at Baumholder, Germany with the 1/68 Armor. I was a mechanic/wrecker operator in the battalion maintenance section, in the spring of 1968 (I think) someone found found an unmolested Chaffee and decided to place it in front of our HHC billets on Boston Street. I wasn't all that familiar what it was at the time, but we opened the deck plates and admired the dual Cadillacs. Many years later, in the '90's I guess, when Google Earth came out, I looked at Baumholder and the M24 was no longer there. I wonder where it is now.
@davidkretz8323
@davidkretz8323 2 жыл бұрын
It may be the M-24 that is on static display on Sembach Kaserne which used to be an air base but now belongs to the Army.
@rickjohnson4956
@rickjohnson4956 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidkretz8323 Were you stationed at Sembach? During my time at BH I traveled all around the area on and off duty, but don't recall going to the military base at Sembach. For some reason the name is familiar to me, but I don't know why. I read up on Sembach on Wikipedia, seems like a lot of AF drama there over a very short period.
@Patrick_Cooper
@Patrick_Cooper 2 жыл бұрын
Why are you showing the M3 Lee/Grant medium tank. The M3 Lee looks a lot different.
@Salamandra40k
@Salamandra40k 2 жыл бұрын
I would usually have a response about throwing the guy a bone- perhaps there wasnt enough footage or something. But this is just...inexcusable. The M3 and M5 light tanks obviously dont refer to the M3 Medium, and thats just a blatant mistake on the channels part. Whoever writes these scripts or edits the videos together clearly doesnt have enough passion or knowledge about armored vehicles to make sure they got the RIGHT M3 in the video
@chardtomp
@chardtomp 2 жыл бұрын
I expect the confusion stems from the fact that the Lee and Stuart tanks were both designated M-3 although the later version of the Stuart was the M-5. It is rather inexcusable that they didn't bother to make sure they have video of the correct tank though.
@johnreed8336
@johnreed8336 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the latest upload. Well researched and narrated as always .
@RTFLDGR
@RTFLDGR 2 күн бұрын
Could that two Cadillac Chaffee tank keep going on one engine? If one engine quits running, can you still drive the tank? thanks
@dou5689
@dou5689 2 жыл бұрын
I had a tank toy from early 90s China, it has a chaffee Chassie with a Panzer IV F turret, weird like a fever dream, disappeared like one too.
@anthonyiocca5683
@anthonyiocca5683 2 жыл бұрын
That was a comic book tank. It replaced the M5 Stuart with a tank the crew built from what they found in a tank junkyard. G. I. Combat was the comic. Make War No More
@dou5689
@dou5689 2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonyiocca5683 Thank you for the info, didn't know its origin before.
@thomasgumersell9607
@thomasgumersell9607 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this video on the light Tanks. So many brave crews in WW2 had a tough time against the German Panzer and Tìger. 💪🏻🙏🏻✨
@apersondoingthings5689
@apersondoingthings5689 11 ай бұрын
They actually didn’t, by the time this entered the war not a lot of German tanks were left, so german tanks were pretty rare and I don’t think this ever encountered a tiger. The times it did come up against panthers and other German tanks it usually bested them, but that isn’t saying much since ever U.S. tank in Europe beat up on German ones
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 2 жыл бұрын
If memory serves there's still some M-24's in service in South America but I don't remember which countries. Goes to show you if you take care of WW2 equipment it can last for decades. I remember seeing WW2 vintage 2 1/2 ton trucks still in service in the 1970's when I was in Denmark for a NATO operation.
@j.robertsergertson4513
@j.robertsergertson4513 2 жыл бұрын
Thailand still uses chaffes , They're mostly ceremonial but still running
@wayneantoniazzi2706
@wayneantoniazzi2706 2 жыл бұрын
@@j.robertsergertson4513Thanks! And they're still running I'll bet everything else on them still works as well!
@tomhenry897
@tomhenry897 2 жыл бұрын
More likely too broke to upgrade
@ivarplukkerud1978
@ivarplukkerud1978 2 жыл бұрын
Norway used its m24 untill the 1993. Or we upgraded our chaffies in 1975 with a rangefinder and better gun. The norwegian upgraded m24, the NM116 is actually the tank used in the thunbnail
@tasman006
@tasman006 2 жыл бұрын
Awsome vid but a mention could have gone to the upgraded Chilean army M24 tanks with the 60mm hypervelocity gun which they retired in 1999 and the Uruguay version also which is been replaced by upgraded M41 Walker Bulldogs donated by Brazil. They where the last serving M24's in the world.
@supratikroy6369
@supratikroy6369 2 жыл бұрын
Our PT-76s had those M-24 Chaffees for lunch in Garibpur, 1971. We were outnumbered and yet destroyed all of them one by one.
@ericb.4358
@ericb.4358 4 ай бұрын
As a history teacher and student of WW II I'm surprised I hadn't heard of the M24 CHAFFE. Hell,to me the Sherman WAS a light tank.
@TS-mo6pn
@TS-mo6pn 2 жыл бұрын
Let us not forget that in British service, the M3 was known as the "Honey" because it was so beloved by its users, mainly for its mobility (speed) and reliability. The reason for building a light tank in the first place was to allow for a highly mobile vehicle that could get out in front of the main body of armor, locate the enemy, and pull that famous maneuver known as "getting the hell out of there." Another factor: Generally speaking, tanks of the interwar period and first couple of years of WWII were terribly unreliable, which is one of the principal reasons the British (and Russians) liked American built tanks so much. All that said, the M24 was undeniably the best light tank ever, right up until the M41 came along. On another note, I was assigned to an armored unit during my first tour in Germany prior to the wall coming down. There was an M24 on static display at the kaserne I was assigned to, and it needed a fresh coat of paint in a bad way. One weekend, I had nothing better to do so I got some paint from the motor pool and some beers from the local Trinkhaus and did my best to make the WWII veteran look presentable again. And wouldn't you know it, some commander decided the tank would look much better in front of his HQ, and shortly thereafter it was gone.
@tvgerbil1984
@tvgerbil1984 2 жыл бұрын
The great light tanks of WW2 were the ones which had most impact to battles they were in, probably in the early part of WW2. By late 1944 when the M24s were introduced, all light tanks were only suitable for auxiliary duties.
@pablononescobar
@pablononescobar 2 жыл бұрын
At the beginning the footage confused the M3 Stuart LIGHT tank they were talking about with images of the M3 MEDIUM tank
@DonMeaker
@DonMeaker 2 жыл бұрын
Adna Chaffee served in the Civil War, in Arizona fighting the Apaches, in China against the Boxers, and as Chief of Staff. His son, Adna Jr., Served in WWI, and commanded the Armored Force, between the wars.
@anvil49
@anvil49 Жыл бұрын
Great vid on an amazing tank. Thanks.
@terryashley4674
@terryashley4674 Жыл бұрын
I like these videos even though I see inconsistencies between the narration and the clips. I don't look for the inconsistencies though. I just sit up and enjoy the video. I can't complain because I wasn't there in battle.
@oisnowy5368
@oisnowy5368 2 жыл бұрын
The Chaffee's eternal nemesis is the Luchs; both can compete for the cutest tank ever.
@MichaelMcKinnon-do5ev
@MichaelMcKinnon-do5ev Жыл бұрын
The Stuart was originally supposed to be designated the M3 but the prototype didn't run at all and by the time the problem was figured out the M3 Lee had entered service as had the M4 Sherman, so the Stuart became known as the M5 to avoid confusion and data plates listing the M5 designation were hastily welded over the completed Stuarts because of the US Military's order before the prototype was even tested and since there was just one tank designation at the time the US Military switched from the letter T(for tank) with a number after it to the M (for Model) with a number after it with the M1 being the first tank with an M letter designator, after the M1, there was the M2 Greyhound, M3 Lee, M4 Sherman, M5 Stuart, although there were halftracks included as well as tanks for whatever reason
@jeffreyplum5259
@jeffreyplum5259 2 жыл бұрын
The M3 shown is not a light tank. It is the M3 Lee or Grant medium tank. This was a stopgap Medium while the M4 Sherman was being developed and produced. The M3 had the old 37mm gun on top in a turret, and a 75mm gun built into one side The light tank used in North Africa was the M3 or M5 Stuart armed with only the 37 MM gun..
@CHThornton
@CHThornton 2 жыл бұрын
The M-24 Chaffee, slightly and externally modified, was used for a number of years by the OPFOR at the National Training Center, Ft. Irwin, CA.
@johnconnolly5292
@johnconnolly5292 2 жыл бұрын
I believe that your referring to the M-551 Sheridan light tank, which were vismoded into BMP’s and T-72’s. I was a gunner in a Sheridan/BMP at Ft. Irwin in the late 80’s. They served at the NTC into the late 90’s.
@maxsmodels
@maxsmodels 2 жыл бұрын
You keep showing the M3 Lee when talking about the M3 Stuart. Two different tanks despite both being called M3s. Ya gotta love 1940s army nomenclature. Technically M3 medium tank (Lee) and M3 Light Tank (Stuart).
@tonypate9174
@tonypate9174 2 жыл бұрын
INCOMING ...Cat Dad voice over of Doom and Gloom dude ...Bless him
@akken2112
@akken2112 2 жыл бұрын
Good information but, the tank you are showing in the video as the "M3 Stuart" light tank was actually the M3 Grant/Lee medium tank. One can tell it was the M3 Grant/Lee tank because of the 75mm gun sticking out of the hull and the 37mm gun in the turret. The M3 Stuart light tank only had a 37mm cannon in the turret, there was no cannon in the hull.
@SKILLED521
@SKILLED521 2 жыл бұрын
A fine little scout tank.
@MberEnder
@MberEnder 2 жыл бұрын
Man I'm a sucker for American light tanks. The Chaffee, Bulldog, and Sheridan are all some of my favorite armoured vehicles.
@chancekey2498
@chancekey2498 2 жыл бұрын
Every time you mention the M3 Stuart, you show an M3 Lee. Other than that, great video.
@Wideoval73
@Wideoval73 Жыл бұрын
Good video. Thanks
@joeharris3878
@joeharris3878 Жыл бұрын
The movie "Decision Before Dawn" (1951) used Chaffee tanks in german paint as panzers quite convincingly by comparison to WW2 movies of that time until "Kelly's Heroes" (1970) came along that had soviet T34 tanks mocked up as Tiger 1 german tanks that fooled me completely for 40 years. I always have liked Richard Basehart, especially in "Moby Dick". Later in "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea"
@ThePerfectRed
@ThePerfectRed 2 жыл бұрын
We should define the requirements first, there is no one fits all. The M24 is an 18t tank with a 75mm gun, quite heavy for a "light". The Luchs performed quite well at 11t, or the Sd.Kfz. 234/4 which is of course wheeled.
@frankmcgowan9457
@frankmcgowan9457 2 жыл бұрын
The Luchs retained the 2cm main gun of its predecessors, IIRC. It could scout and scoot but it should never shoot at anything heavier than a halfback. The 7.5cm on the M24 made self defense possible.
@adventurehawksancientharmony
@adventurehawksancientharmony Жыл бұрын
When mentioning German panzers you show a picture of a British crusader tank
@PitFriend1
@PitFriend1 2 жыл бұрын
I always liked the little folding windshield provided for the driver to use when he’s driving head out. It even has a little windshield wiper on it. The commander’s .50 mount always looked a little weird though. It’s not really a pintle, it looks like a tripod welded to the turret.
@Kneon_Knight
@Kneon_Knight 2 жыл бұрын
Several U.S. tanks had that weird feature, one of the crew wiyld have to climb out of the vehicle and stand at the rear of the turret to engage ground and air targets. I never understood the reasoning for this, but there it is.
@gerardmichaelburnsjr.
@gerardmichaelburnsjr. 9 ай бұрын
Others have mentioned this, but showing the M3 Lee / Grant instead of the actual M3 Stewart's is just unforgivable
@andymoody8363
@andymoody8363 2 жыл бұрын
Why the film of Grant/Lee tanks when you're talking about the Stuart? You got your M3's mixed up!
@jesusm.pereztriana9319
@jesusm.pereztriana9319 9 ай бұрын
Anyone remembers that Uruguay used its M-24 until the 21st century?
@popuptarget7386
@popuptarget7386 Жыл бұрын
I have driven an M5 and as a recon viehicle i would rate it rather high. Best thing about the M6 37mm is it had a cannister round. Thats a nice shotgun to convince infantry to go away
@victorlight4296
@victorlight4296 7 ай бұрын
The M3 and M5 were competitive with anything in its weight class throughout the war. Just IMO.
@ThomasQuigley-b1b
@ThomasQuigley-b1b 10 ай бұрын
I know a Korean marine infantry vet who described it as "Laffey taffy." It was better than nothing but could not go toe to toe with the chinese (russian) armored in the field = tried anyway. He had great respect for those men. Brave men one and all.
@erushi5503
@erushi5503 2 жыл бұрын
In War Thunder M24 was broken in the lower ranks/BR, the combat and scouting abilities of that tank is amazing
@thomaslinton5765
@thomaslinton5765 Жыл бұрын
Why video clips of the M-3 Medium tank for the Stuart?
@scotthunnicutt1225
@scotthunnicutt1225 2 жыл бұрын
that 9.5 inches width must have been a tight space for 5 crewmen.
@mark-r5w7w
@mark-r5w7w Күн бұрын
Of course it was the only LT tank with a 75mm gun but that delayed production the tank was meant to have the 57mm gun in order to meet the new requirement the turret ring had to be enlarged that's a major modification as a result the 1st models didn't serve until the battle of the bulge. They should have built the 57mm models while doing the turret ring enlargement instead of halting production the 1st models could have served in France. The turret ring had to be enlarged on the T34/76 as well as a new turret to fit the 85mm Gun and they did it while still producing the T34/76
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